THE TRUE STRENGTH OF FULGRIM!

[@tuor8087]

I hope GW bring back clone Fulgrim. Fulgrim's fall was truly sad.

[@jacklaurentius6130]

Tuor 80 I’ve read that Fabius had the clone Fulgrim taken because he was on his way to betrayal and damnation AGAIN! Lol. Implying he was flawed fundamentally.

[@sugargame]

There will be 4 chapters waiting for his return Red Scorpions Death Eagles Hawk Lords and Sons of Phoenix.

[@MiddleAgedGuy73]

Sadly I think they'll kill the Fulgrim clone but I really hope they don't. Seems there is a lot of potential for him

[@mrivieccio]

Clone Fulgrim is already here, the necron collector has him courtesy of the spider;-) My guess is he will return during some kind of scuffle with the necrons new leader now in play

[@nosignal7156]

It's more likely than ever the Fulgrim clone might return, especially since Necrons are about to get a lot of focus. And he is with the Necrons right now. Also, the interactions between Fulgrim clone and Guilliman could become epic, especially since Guilliman really, really hates daemon prince Fulgrim a lot.

[@Ventruethful]

"It is your duty to raise them up" This is why I love Fulgrim. He was an inspiring figure, not complacent towards the failings of humanity but still capable of compassion towards the common people. A sculptor of human potential, a living image of what everyone could become under the Imperial Truth. The peacock exterior hid a noble soul and the arrogance that would become his trademark after the fall was still a pure, almost kind ambition. I can't wait for the Psychic Awakening for Fabius though; while he may be a certified sick fuck, I feel like he's the only one still upholding the ideal of a shared improvement. Thank you for the video WolfLord

[@wolflordrho]

You are welcome 😊

[@randomcenturion7264]

Fulgrim is one of the best Primarchs. It's a damn shame he went traitor and you can tell he was one of the most conflicted, especially with the Clone providing insight that he could've so easily remained a Loyalist.

[@silversurfer8818]

He didn't become a traitor by choice though, the sword corrupted him and later imprisoned his mind and locked it away. The clone however is interesting, one with more insight to why he was susceptible to the corruption, we need his return!

[@Shadowhunterbg]

I personally dislike Fulgrim. His betrayal is inexcusable because his legion was the most spoiled by the Emperor. They were smug, thought themselves better than everyone else and were never satisfied with what they had. They were at the top and it wasn't enough for them.

[@РоманСоловьёв-к9и]

Even his clone is a traitor, because Fabius Bile created him for protecting his New Men, but Fulgrim #2 decided to use them as an army instead.

[@JohnWhiteHere]

Zoomer Waffen he didn’t know or believe in daemons and he started out thinking that a thing could be “evil” would be superstition

[@JohnWhiteHere]

It could be so simple as as the emperor telling him about daemons and he would never have turned traitor

[@Uploaded1995]

Fulgrim was supposed to not only be the diplomat, but the Face of the Primarchs and the Imperium wherever his father couldn't go. He is perhaps the only Primarch that would be able to stop volatile rebellions with the spoken word alone, rather than having to enforce the threat of bloodshed. He was supposed to be that blazing phoenix of hope that shines light in the darkest times with its flames, to both citizen and soldier alike to give them hope and love rather than fear and malcontent anger. The formidable power to inspire and persuade would have been his gifts to the Imperium if only he hadn't fallen and considering how sorely that is needed for Mankind now, it makes his fall all the more tragic.

[@RecoveringLoLAddict]

*laughs in Sanguinius*

[@chrisbennett6236]

This Fulgrim, Sanguinius and Vulcan were the most likely to bring a world into compliance this way.

[@Fourtytwo4242]

@@chrisbennett6236 Don't forget Horus it was really common for him to make worlds bend the knee by just words alone. You know before chaos mind fucked him into insanity.

[@Uploaded1995]

@@RecoveringLoLAddict I love the empathetic Pappa Sangy as much as the next guy, but I think Fulgrim was clearly the one made for the spotlight.

[@jonharper8963]

Even though I hate him I think you’re forgetting about Lorgar

[@Eliphas_]

I always thought each Primarch had a special place and role in the Emperors eye. But i never understood what was Fulgrim meant to be. But after watching this video, i finally understand what his role is. He is meant to inspire awe into compliance. He is the perfection and beauty of humanity. And that is exactly why fell...

[@blitzjazz4107]

What does that make Sanguinius then?

[@shanegrimes3455]

@@blitzjazz4107 wrath

[@grandtheftaudio6386]

I dont think Fulgrim was ment to "inspire awe into compliance." I think he was more so a bridge between the Astartes and your average Human. This speech perfectly encapsulates that sentiment.

[@Allofmynamestaken]

Sanguinius is the perfection from the distance, whereas Fulgrim is the perfection that was somewhat relatable.

[@snakeyman5560]

@@blitzjazz4107 He is the secondary icon of the Imperium.

[@chrisbennett6236]

The Blade of the Laer eroded away piece by piece the man he was, pushing his arrogance and quest for perfection to the fore until only a husk remained. Such a different man before and after. So perhaps this is a great example of why the Emperor outlawed the use of xeno artifacts.

[@CMAzeriah]

GAMES WORKSHOP! RELEASE HIS CLONE!

[@melvixen1943]

I was wondering, just for sh*** and giggles of modding myself a fulgrim, the loyalist clone version that is. Just need to find some good pictures and hightcomparisions

[@zeppelincraft1443]

@@melvixen1943 Would be amazing if Trazyn gives him a Phasesword and Gauss gun. They would be a perfect fit for him.

[@snakeyman5560]

@@zeppelincraft1443 God that would be legendary. Then get him The Silent King's golden mask of Sanguinius.

[@StoneColdSteel]

Oil

[@asaenvolk]

This book showed how Fulgrim tried to show a better, less violent way to induct new worlds, it was admirable. Ever notice that the Emperor seamed to have partial redundancies in the Primachs, where a trait that one of the Primachs has is often mirrors (sort of) in another Primach. So Kurz and Sangunius were Prophetic (basically Kurz was Corax + Sangunius), but Sangunius was a wonder to the populous and a natural leader for them, will in the same regard as for that trait, Fulgrim was the redundancy for that trait. In all likelihood, the Emp always knew he would loose half or so of his Primachs, such redundancies meant that he would still have access to most of the roles AFTER the rebellion.

[@Crowbro666]

Great thinking there

[@kebarius6760]

It’s becoming clearer that the Primarchs were numbered 20 for a reason, cfr. John Grammaticus and the creation language. Perhaps the Emperor’s deal with the chaos gods was a greater game than they could ever have perceived: 2 for the pyre, hidden from view or kept in hand for the Emperor, 4 for the Gods, 4 for the Emperor and 5 to turn either way. Maybe it didn’t matter which 4, which is why it broke the Emperor’s heart that it was Horus. All are in balance - the Lion Johnson and the Hydra Alpharius, the Wolf Horus and the Bear Russ, the Raven Corax and the Bat Kurze, the Drake Vulkan and the Serpent Lorgar, the Castle Dorn and the Siege Perturabo, the Sorceror Magnus and the Magister Mortarion, the Passion Sanguinius and the Fury Angron, the Beauty Fulgrim and the Beast Ferrus, the Wind Jaghatai and the Rock Guilliman. Perhaps as a whole they were a perfect balance. Removing 2 and 11 threw the other traits out of balance. The Emperor’s gambit and exchange with the Chaos Gods for the power of creation and a limited time until the debt came due. Explains his haste to return to the dungeons and succeed in his webway project to link the human worlds before finally purging the psykers and effectively destroying the Chaos gods through starvation. Can’t wait.

[@jackblack9605]

Fulgrim was charismatic like Horus, had management skills like Guilliman, smiting skills like Vulkan and Ferrus, and was a warrior and duelist equivalent to the Lion and Russ. Sure, he wasn't the best, but he was the second best in all those areas and was an all-rounder. Almost seem redundant that he had all of these qualities but it really feels like Fulgrim was meant for the post-Crusade era, where he and his legion would shine. While the other Primarchs were built for war, Fulgrim and his legion would basically represent the Emperor's idealism and be the standard that the Imperium's common people would strive for. I could see the other legions being repurposed for defense duties near the Imperium's fringe against the Orks and other xenos, while Fulgrim and the Emperor's Children would essentially be going around the Imperium to spread that optimistic perfectionism of every individual and achieving it for the Imperium.

[@asaenvolk]

@@jackblack9605 Yes, exactly.

[@xXSpaceMexicanXx]

....maybe Fulgrim really needs to come back. Maybe he's the Primarch we need.

[@dominicomegon4714]

I've been beating this drum since I found out a perfect clone existed.

[@andilucas6926]

Yes - to finish the job on Guilliman and lead the III Legion in the final extermination of the Eldar.

[@jonharper8963]

Seeing fulgrims outlook on love over fear here it makes perfect sense that he was chosen to mentor Curze. Someone who had only know fear given someone with this level of compassion who truly believed someone can be uplifted and become more than what they believe

[@Nyctophora]

Aye and I truly wish he had had more time to work with Curze, it might have been the saving of him.

[@stephaniehaney736]

@@Nyctophora I mean Hawk Boi showed us that Curze wasn't all that gone by how Curze nearly took him up on the deal where Sanguinius would protect him from their brothers and he can be a loyalist again. But of course he refused after considering it. Fulgrim was the only brother Curze could confine in, and that was something Curze never really cared to do. But yeah I think Loyalist Fulgrim could have helped him, but time wasn't on their side...

[@flameknightplayz2939]

And Angron was the most emphatic of all primarchs thats why he was used and abused by the corrupt lord of his homeworld.

[@joevines3428]

It would seem the only thing Curze took away from Fulgrims mentorship was make your soldier's look as stylish as possible.

[@WilliamMcAlpine777]

If GW had guts, clone Fulgrim would come back and start it up

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

Clone kills deamon F. And takes his un corrupted soul that remains... that would be dope af

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

Clone kills deamon F. And takes his un corrupted soul that remains... that would be dope af

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

Clone kills deamon F. And takes his un corrupted soul that remains... that would be dope af

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

Clone kills deamon F. And takes his un corrupted soul that remains... that would be dope af

[@WilliamMcAlpine777]

@@HammarPwnsYourFace That would be amazing

[@abogus1756]

Rho, I just wanted to say that you're a very wholesome person and I love what you do. I stumbled upon this channel only recently, and your voice has become a calm spot in the middle of a storm for me. Thank you.

[@wolflordrho]

Thank you I appreciate that 😊

[@timcusack9388]

Always saw Fulgrim as Alexander the Great. Inspire everyone from his home to foreign lands. Conquered where ever he went by sheer presence and diplomacy. Loved by slaves and even his enemies. He even had his luxurious taste in culture, arts and foods. Those who thought Sanguinius was more like ALexander but nought, he was Germanicus.

[@ndr2q]

Timmy - I always think of Lord Solar Macharius as the 40K analogue of Alexander the Great. But Fulgrim and the Emperor also have aspects of him in them.

[@ballerlarva4214]

Fulgrim should have blasted Horus' fleet to pieces and ended the Heresy when he showed up in the Istvaan system.

[@maliceharding4668]

The tragedy of the illuminator is great I wish for a loyal fulgrim to return he could do wonders for the imperium based on how he is a total revival of human culture in the darkness

[@johnpalmer7263]

Fulgrim is one of the most fascinating primarchs to me, out of all the traitors primarchs (besides maybe magnus) Fulgrim has the most remediable character. Please do more videos on him!

[@Duppyman695]

Lets get Daemon Fulgrim (the serpent) VS Loyal Fulgrim (the clone)

[@LoneWolf20213]

the recon will always piss me off

[@thomasswingler174]

You've completely sold me on the loyal clone concept. I want them to be the next loyal return more than anyone now.

[@worldeater2414]

His Primarch book is amazing, and deserves more recognition.

[@horuslupercalaurelian1569]

Fulgrim was actually really Awesome when he was Loyal, his strength and personality were awesome. Once he accepted the ruinous powers he became a slithering Deutsche bag

[@HumanistGordian]

Douche not Deutsche, deutsche meens german in german, douche is French for showering.

[@snakeyman5560]

Fulgrim used to be truly fabulous and his Legion used to be humble, they used to be the diplomatic chapter. A chapter composed of children of noble families that had been taken from their high perch and brought down into the murderous training ground that is becoming an Astartes, a humbling process for sure. They were humble, noble and diplomatic. Now... well... you know what they are now.

[@sandforthesoul5686]

This just makes the events of the HH novel Fulgrim so much more tragic.

[@KaiserAfini]

For all his preoccupation with aesthetics, perfection and his rampant pride, Fulgrim's ideals were quite touching. How incredibly far he has fallen, what a terrible shame it is to see the flame of his altruism has been extinguished by the tide of madness of the Warp.

[@dirtydata9356]

"Tell me scribe, have you heard the tragedy of Fulgrim the kind?"

[@nrcaknights1]

That cover art is one of my favorites. It's so good.

[@GrimdarkCrusader20th]

I use it as my desktop background

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

I loved this one by Josh Reynolds! It reminds me why Fulgrim is one of my favorite primarchs: flawed, proud, ambitious, but that makes him compelling because of his desire to reach excellence! The loss of Fulgrim from the Imperium was the loss of beauty and the striving for perfection within the system,

[@bulwyf2572]

I echo your thoughts. I love pre fall EC. I have a large 30k collection of them and even when I use them in 40k games they are still the purple and gold. This book was a great look at the real Fulgrim before the sword and the taint. I hate that Fulgrim is this almost comic villain of ego and pride to most 40k fans when he's a rich, complex character whose fall is the most complete and the most tragic. The loyal clone that the Necron has trapped simply has to be freed and come into the tabletop and 40k storyline. I want to see a multi purpose model set like Morathi in Sigmar for 40k Fulgrim. You can either build him as the snake body demon primarch OR build him as the cloned loyal Fulgrim. You have different rules for whichever one you make. A loyal clone Fulgrim working with Bobby G with his own cloned primarch chapters would be epic.

[@johnwalton287]

Bulwyf I’d buy that for a dollar!

[@selensleftearflap6808]

Waking up to a new Wolf Lord Rho video? And its the primarch of the Emperor's Children at that? Is it my birthday?

[@chrisfrombeyond4240]

I really hope GW brings loyal Clonegrim back into the fold of the Imperium. If we got loyal Emperors Children I would drop the Dark Angles and roll an Emperors Children army in a heartbeat.

[@sethroseblood9456]

Rylanor isn't enough for you?

[@august8696]

@@sethroseblood9456 rylanor is dead

[@johnlucas2838]

@@august8696 Rylanor in the Legion of the Damned with Vistario, Akhtar, and Murshid (Thousands Sons).

[@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignis]

Oh Fulgrim what happened to you someone who was so noble and kind you had your faults as we all do truly had you never picked up the Laer sword I have no doubt you would have been a loyalist

[@joevines3428]

I like to imagine 40k Emperor's children as being mostly gluttonous, cruel and prideful, but with a few members still having some semblance of nobility, using there charisma to rally thousands of cultists that have only known dull and hard lives. Not all marines would look like a twitching masses of spliced flesh and speakers, some would look not too dissimilar to there old selves, just with more chaos iconography and a few tastefull mutations.

[@sircashew1097]

I genuinely loved this book. One of the best parts of this book is the fact that it can be summed up with, “oh, someone’s poisoned my drink again. That was rude. It’s a shame too, such a good vintage” 😂

[@РоманСоловьёв-к9и]

Why do I cry?! Your voice and this story..... that's so beautiful! It's his destiny to fall, like Magnus, due to their arrogance. His clone is not a complete Fulgrim, because a Primarch is not just a human, it's a vessel for a powerful warp-entity. And this clone is a traitor too, because he failed to Fabius Bile. He was created to protect New Men, but the clone used them as an army. That's why Bile gave him to the Trazyn.

[@panthervoodoo]

Wow that broke my heart. I seriously have tears

[@nosferatu-369]

Fulgrim is such a badass. I have to say he's my favorite Primarch.

[@edim108]

This is a side of Fulgrim I didn't expect to see, but I'm glad I did. I'd love to see more Pre-Heresy Fulgrim. Maybe in a joint campaign with Vulkan or Sanguinius. That would be truly amazing! Fulgrim's fall is a tragedy and one that could have been avoided. Horus was always going to turn, as was Lorgar. They just could not stay loyal. But Fulgrim? Fulgrim was corrupted from the outside more so than flawed from the inside. If only a handful of avoidable events went differently, he would have stayed loyal to the Emperor.

[@wintersking4290]

Such nobility turned to cruelty? They should have stuck with the original story of him being trapped in the painting. They threw away such a good thing with that.

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

Isn't his soul true soul in clonegrim though?

[@almightykingpin6322]

FOR THE WOLF LORD , love your videos man I always have to click on them first

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

Click the like before the video as the ads play! Do not shrimp now! Onwards!! “Pulls bolt pistol and aims at head” ..... “*For the EMPEROR!!!*”

[@almightykingpin6322]

BeatingClownz FOR THE EMPEROR

[@grimnar1976]

awww man this was soo good!! The writers can really make the more noble sons of the Emperor shine so brightly. Primarchs like Fulgrim, Vulkan, Guiliman, Russ, Dorn, and Magnus are so good when they are. Even Lorgar, and despite his need for worship he still cared about the people, and would still see to their advancement as servants of the Emperor. So when those of the Emperors sons who were not so noble fell the impact was less tragic, but for the Pheonician, thats a tragedy all on its own. Great work Wolf Lord!

[@waspoptic]

Angron is my favourite Primarch, which always leads me to searching for what could’ve helped him before the Heresy in quelling his anger and changing his mind about the common people and the Emperor. Fulgrim would’ve been a great candidate for helping him, least before the corruption

[@Duppyman695]

Can't wait for Angron week, it will get 'bloody' around here!

[@camiloparada9529]

Man i really love the way you narrate these events.. It makes me want to go back and read whole books i havent read in a while

[@cc-bk3tx]

I prefer the loyal Fulgrim over what he became

[@patrickwycoff6914]

Oddly a returned loyal fulgrim sounds like here.. would bring Guilliman more aid now in 40k then any other imo not only in restoring humanities faith and pride but in the emotional support Guilliman needs.

[@codemaster6521]

Their are a lot of KZbinrs that make warhammer videos such as majorkill. You are like primarchs, majorkill represent a fun and humorous experience while you represent a serene and insightful experience from the books.

[@Iceisnice1]

Hey, Rho. I don't know if you'll ever see this, but I wanted to say thanks for all your videos, and particularly this one. I'm fairly new to 40k, and while I liked watching the occasional videos and tidbits of lore, I never thought I'd really get into it to the point of painting the minis or reading the books. I'm still not into the minis, but this video inspired me to take that leap and buy my very first 40k book: The Palatine Phoenix. I am happy to say that it did not disappoint. I was downright riveted. I can't remember the last time I was so engrossed in a book that I couldn't wait to get some free time to keep reading. When I was just learning about each primarch, I had a feeling that pre-Laer Fulgrim would be my favorite, and this book cemented it. So thank you once again for helping a newbie get into this awesome franchise :D

[@TheSignOfZeta]

Woah! I didn't know that. Fulgrim was this compassionate. Looks like I have some more reading to do.

[@patrickallen5791]

This is great. I love your analysis of it

[@Yggi11]

Magnus was a victim of his own hubris. Angron was doomed from the moment those nails went into his head. Mortarion was a hateful asshole. Perturabo was a weird, angry manchild. Konrad Curze was insane. Alpharius is a mystery. Lorgar was desperate to believe in something. But Fulgrim never would have fallen if he hadn't picked up that sword in pure ignorance.

[@redasylum]

Perturabo had the megalomania of an architect .

[@unspeakablemind260]

Fulgrim would never have fallen if the Xenos weapon-susceptible legion policy hadn't existed.

[@deecee796]

Do ancient Rylanor! I really really enjoyed reading about him.

[@FoundingChambers]

Dude you make something I already love so much even more enjoyable!! For the Emperor!!!!!!

[@gwyndolin1536]

Fulgrim was the best of them back in the day....if only his good side could return.

[@theballadofkobirae7431]

I love how he pursued perfection and self improvement relentlessly.... in real life he inspired me toexercise and pit more hours at my job

[@malyxxplays7949]

Isn't there a clone of him somewhere?

[@airsoftpopcorn]

Malyxx Plays yes there is a clone in the possession of trazyn the infinite

[@scrubsrc4084]

i picked this book up as a last minute read whilst working away and loved the story as well as fulgrims character, enough to want the audio book too soon

[@mecasheepawesome1469]

I too miss the loyal fulgrim. i reeeeeaally hope GWS will do something with the clone

[@kreeby9983]

When fulgrim said it was their duty to raise them up I think fabius took that a bit too seriously because in the fabius books his experiments are all about creating a better humanity or at least what he thinks is a better humanity so that is probably why fabius paused after fulgrim said that.

[@patrickmcabee123]

I wept at this… Wolf… you got it Brother…! Be well..! Sir.

[@calumblair8199]

Amazing, this book is the one I have read over and over again. I never truly understood why I loved the loyal Fulgrim over all Primarchs and hated the traitor over all traitors. Thank you for your incredible depiction of him, much appreciated.

[@risa123456789]

The fall of Fulgrim was easily one of the most tragic parts of the Heresy. After the Crusade, it would be him and Lorgar who would truly unite humanity, I firmly believe that.

[@tadeuszsa8314]

You are right. They will be the Diplomatic and Propaganda faces of the Imperium.

[@buenapilapil5513]

@Rockerboy that's because he was under the influence of the slaaneshi demon sword

[@snakeyman5560]

I loved when Fabius pulled Casperos back into line.

[@JW-gs1sn]

The Silent Kind returns, cuts deal with the Imperium. Not sure what the terms will be but Fulgrim getting released by Trazyn seems like a possibility.

[@GenjiBG]

Next to Hammer of olympia this is my favourite primarch book, great greek tragedies :( And the line "i did not now, that people lived more than 30 years till i was 7" he is trully the embodiment of the phoenix :( sad

[@forgefartherloki6585]

Of all the primarchs we see very little of vulkan even in his own book we see very little of his actual thoughts and only the way he executes war! Thank you Wolf Lord Rho for letting me see more of the primarch i love in your other videos and letting us learn more about all the primarchs and the universe we love

[@eyeofgnosis558]

I would love to see a pre-heresy first meeting of Fulgrim and Sanguinius, perhaps debating the meaning of perfection :)

[@willsword8100]

I hope we can get the loyal clone and just a chapter of primaris sons. that alone could change so much.

[@greblu2]

I vote wolflord rho as next chapter master

[@madara4447]

I can’t wait for the return of clone Fulgrim my favorite Primarch easily in my top 5

[@TherealSBlair]

One of the things that I love about the Heresy series is that we get hints and clues of what the Primarchs (loyalist and traitor) could have been to the Imperium. Past their use as generals and conquerors. The things that would have made them paragons of humanity. Examples for the masses to aspire to. True guardians and shepherds. Makes their betrayal all the more tragic.

[@mikkelbjrnskov-bartholdy439]

Fulgrim's betrayal is an important story, as it shows that even the best can fall. It aligns perfectly with the dark grittiness, that is the warhammer universe. A tale of Fulgrim's redemption would show that despite the grime, light can be found in even the darkest, most corrupted places. From a storytelling point of view that could make for some truly epic, lorebuilding moments. Personally I hope for a Fulgrim vs Clone Fulgrim showdown. Think of the feels sparked by that.

[@Duppyman695]

Emperors children VS Sons of the Phoenix ........ oh yeah!

[@jungoogie]

Fulgrim coming back as a clone would be some epic sauce. Kind of a wasted opportunity to not make a face off, or at the very least have a loyalist version that honestly sticks with the big E and looks for some kind of redemption.

[@stephenwood6663]

I sometimes find myself wondering what relations must have been like between the Emperor's Children and Death Guard. So much of the Death Guard's ideology is wrapped up around the toxic, inhospitable atmosphere of Barbarus, and how it hardened Mortarion and them into the resilient warriors they became. I wonder if they see a similar genesis in the Emperor's Children, or if they're more like "You had a perfectly good hell-hole, and you made it... quite nice!"

[@joshuaprice6550]

The fact that people feel so strongly about how tragic Fulgrim’s fall was and that they wish he didn’t turn traitor shows exactly why he’s such a brilliant villain. Nothing is more intriguing than a fall from the highest high to the lowest low.

[@c42viper31]

Something that stood out to me in this same novel is that fulgrim keeps bust of his chemos parents on his flagship

[@ShadowGhost0117]

One of my favorite scenes is when Fulgrim is talking about the various marriages he was in during his early days. Especially when he admits that he really did love the first few.

[@stephaniehaney736]

Do you know which book that is in, I have seen the quote, but idk the book

[@kieranmeade441]

@@stephaniehaney736 I think it's fulgrim palatine phoenix. I've read that recently and recall the scene, I think he's talking to Golconda Pike. Great book

[@luciusviii1553]

Fulgrim didnt fall he assended to something higher !

[@gwilym1991]

With Guilliman back and Szarekh returning I can easily see the release of the clone of Fulgrim happening as a result. Possibly even inciting the original Fulgrim to return to the fore out of spite.

[@daverage4729]

Can you imagine if he was the next primarch to return? What kind of fun responses would that garner from the players in the Imperium.

[@SawyerKnight]

its said that the Primarchs had intersecting traits in various degrees, it seems that Fulgrim and Sanguinius shared that aura of Majesty the Great Angel is so known for

[@vemven4740]

Please do one on Corvus Corax he is my absolute favorite. To me he is the Batman of Warhammer not the night haunter. It blows me away when people say that. Out of the 2 Corax would be the one to come from the shadows and save you not kill you. Everything he does is for his sons and his father. He sees all people of the universe as people worth saving. Everything he does touches him deep in his soul. He doesn't want max murder with carnage. He sees what needs done and finds the path that will get it done and be gone. He has never used he godlike status for his own means or for fear. He holds them until he has too. He gets past over time again by people because he is humble. The Raven Guard took the biggest hit in the massacre but he didn't give up. He fought on with what he had and even went out to take on Angron. How many could have gone through all that for weeks and remained loyal and sane? He didn't leave his sons because he wanted to. He left to hunt down the traders so he wouldn't lose any more of them. His love for his sons is next level. They are not a tool to be used but his family. The abilities he has in the fade is him finally letting himself to let go and be who was made to be. When he does his core is still pure and his mission never changes. I could keep going but if people can't see him how I do by now then they never will. thank you for your time Amy🛡️

[@illusivec]

I think the most tragic part of the heresy is that all of the more "human" Primarcs fell while the more distant and "other" ones remained loyal.

[@SlippySlippy]

I honestly rly want to see guiliman interact with the Fulgrim clone, even if it ends in guiliman just killing him i think the interaction would be cool to see

[@nillynush4899]

It makes sense for the primarchs to be stewards for humanity. Making them angry or uncaring for mere humans all the time just doesnt make sense if they wanted people to lead and follow them. Making them more caring warriors like they're civilization bringers makes more sense when trying to reclaim humanity's empire in the great crusade.

[@eichler721]

Man I hope after the Horus Heresy we get the great scouring or the unification wars that lead into the Great Crusade. Primarchs are so great we can have 40k for grim dark and 30k for that epic scifi feel with demigods and the Emperor.

[@Duppyman695]

The scouring would be Dark you might say........... Grim/Dark

[@monkeylugz]

Hopefully Szarekh spanks Trayzan and releases clone Fulgrim into the wild again free as a bird :)

[@stephaniehaney736]

***Phoenix

[@flameknightplayz2939]

And we get another corrupted giant serpent fulgrim :)

[@stephaniehaney736]

@@flameknightplayz2939 that would suck, but hilarious 😅

[@stephaniehaney736]

The one dislike is from the Sghost of Ferrus

[@luizhenriquealves9755]

I actually like Ferrus as he is my favorite primarch, but this video really made Fulgrim relatable

[@sergiovieira8272]

Fulgrim was one of the noblest of the Primarchs... But.maybe, the Fulgrim Clone can take his place in the 42nd Millenium and inspire the Imperium

[@pentacosttb2565]

The best and most tragic of the traitor Primarchs. I don't even think his drive for perfection and arragance would have been as destructive as they were without the daemonic corruption. The love for humanity of Vulkan, the skill at arms of Jaghatai, the military genius of the lion, and the strategic insight of Guilliman and craftmanship of Ferrus all rolled into one. If he'd sinply not fought the Laeren, he'd have been remembered as amongst the greatest of his brothers, up there with Sanguinius, Dorn and Guilliman.

[@azreanaibrahim2721]

* about to sleep * welp, just one more video....

[@Nyctophora]

Here was Fulgrim as he was meant to be. Thank you for an excellent video!

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

In my opinion this passage really highlights part of why Ferrus and Fulgrim got along well.

[@slaaneshnurgle3720]

"Released 15 secs ago" FIRST POST BEST POST

[@jonaski08]

Just imagine if Fulgrim did not possess the Laer blade.

[@RichterBelmont2235]

Fulgrim is Griffith in space.

[@TheEmperorsChampion964]

The route will always support the Wolf lord!

[@GameLoot]

That was a real Dave move Dave.

[@silversurfer8818]

It wasn't too long since i read Fulgrim, Visions of treachery. I only know him after he was corrupted by the sword and painting.

[@charlesbratt2504]

Really enjoyed this book! For all the reasons you said and more

[@BadWolfJK]

Some of the traitors would have not turned if they had not been deceived/slowly corrupted; that damned sword ruined Fulgrim

[@Duppyman695]

I Blame Erubus ! Fulgrims fall was the most tragic

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

Great Book choice Wolf Lord! Fulgrim as the good boi, he was allways meant to be.

[@jonahtexhex2835]

It's kind of a catch-22 on bringing back Fulgrim. First of all it'd have to be a major event in the 40K universe to have the Collector release "prize" pieces of his collection(example the Fall of Cadia). In tandem of somehow Manus getting back in to settle the score aka revenge drawing in the original Fulgrim. It's a premise that has to be thought out well or it will fall flat for there are some 40K novels that do that unfortunately.

[@solortus]

Aw man this brought me to tears

[@danpsyker6122]

After hearing this, i really want the cloned Fulgrim to be released and rejoin the imperium with a new Primaris Chapter of Loyal Emperors Children

[@Duppyman695]

Sons of the Phoenix............ Fulgrims loyal sons............... ?

[@UncleMikeDrop]

This is why someone NEEDS to jailbreak Clone Fulgrim from Trazyn.

[@randomcenturion7264]

So you're saying we need experts at recovering artifacts of high importance? Call the Blood Ravens!

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@@randomcenturion7264 Are they also adept at covert exfiltration? If so, then yes.

[@Ttrouble]

I would love to see more videos like this about the other traitor primarchs. Its interesting to see how they were before they fell to chaos.