The Truth About Ableton Push 3: Buyers Beware! 😱

[@pushpatterns]

🎉 Learn the Ableton Push 3 www.pushpatterns.com/Abletonpush3course

[@TheGoldenWreath]

I’m always looking for the one box to get rid of everything else. Sick of gear. Can the push 3 do harsh noise music? Sample mangling? I am used to Octatrack and Eurorack, but wondering if the Push 3 can replace everything else for me.

[@pushpatterns]

Hey, thanks for the comment! Yeah, push 3 can do what you like! It has a few good samplers many amazing audio effects, and I particularly like the granular III instrument to completely change a sample in Brian Eno's ambient magic

[@steved4714]

I think it's worth comparing Push to other devices on costs here. On the budget end, MPC One costed £600 at launch (+ upgrades if you want the synths), but this was replaced with the One+ after just 4 years (and other MPC's are much more expensive). And in that ecosystem you have to pay to get all the synths. Compared to other tech, a MacBook Air costs around 1.6k with 16gb of RAM and a 1TB hard drive is about the same price as a Push, and might last for maybe 6-7 years? (ymmv). To be fair, you could totally use that as a sketchpad with Ableton and be mobile, but in a different way. Not saying the alternatives are a false economy or that Push is better, but I feel a Push should last 10 years maybe? On that basis, it's a shade less than laptop money over the course of your ownership. You get that completely standalone workflow and you can leave your laptop behind, and you get a completely seamless integration with the DAW from hardware to software that isn't obtainable anywhere else.

[@pushpatterns]

Great points! It's definitely worth considering the long-term cost. The Push is a premium product offering a unique workflow, but it's true that the price tag is steep. I agree that the comparison to laptops is interesting. While a laptop offers versatility, the Push excels at tactile, hands-on music experience.

[@nukenoly8751]

Ableton Push 2 with MacBook Air M series for best standalone experience 😊

[@pushpatterns]

Haha fair point! But it’s really about getting you away from the computer right!?

[@paidinfullproductions7752]

Next to the Mpc X and Live 2 the Push 2 or 3 is the next best thing. Nothing stands next to those machines

[@pushpatterns]

I agree 😊 which do you have?

[@chrisdhon7634]

nice click bait. Last video I saw from your channel.

[@pushpatterns]

In what way?

[@Electric_Crystals]

Great video! What stand are you using for the push 3? Thanks in advance!

[@pushpatterns]

Thank you! I have the push on top of a keyboard flight case here, not that glamorous I’m afraid 😎but I usually use this stand - Nayka Laptop Stand Foldable,... www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B091M7XJ2K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[@benzo159]

Hey! Could you pleae make a video about chord progression for beginners on ableton?

[@pushpatterns]

Just in general or on the push?

[@benzo159]

In general :)@@pushpatterns

[@pushpatterns]

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[@moresauce3000]

hey! is the play button on your push 3 also feels different and kinda weird in some way when pressed? it is definitely different feel than other buttons, like it requires less force and it has this weird annoying click sound and feel... Do you also have slightly different tension on top knobs/encoders?

[@pushpatterns]

Hey! Thanks for the comment. Mine feels ok tbh, it does has little click feel to it but nothing out of the ordinary. The encoders are the same too :( have you tried five ableton support an email to see what they say?

[@Artek604]

So, how do you operate the knobs on the console desk UNDER the screen??? :D

[@pushpatterns]

Hey, thanks for the comment, I’m not sure I know exactly what you mean! Can you elaborate?

[@Artek604]

@@pushpatterns I mean your video shows a mixing desk of some sort but quarter of it is obscured by a monitor, so I'm not sure how you're using the portion that's out of reach :)

[@pushpatterns]

Oh right, I understand now 😂 I have a Midas Verona desk. It looks like it’s a at a strange angle but that’s the way the camera is angled 😊

[@VentureNW]

Ya, I keep thinking getting one, but... haha. I am holding off on seeing what either Arturia or Novation put out this year, in terms of Keylab MK3 (non-Essential) or SL MKIV. I don't work on anything really away from my studio and if I get an idea, I can whip out Ableton Note or just record something on my phone and pass it later on. I think the biggest holdup, for me, on Push is how much I can control in Arrangement view. While I might use Session view for a quick idea, I quickly move on to Arrangement view to do the work. It helps keep me from getting stuck in a loop. I have a Nektar Aura for a drum pad and its decent, but definitely not anything to write home about. I have also played keys/piano forever, so a keyboard controller has always made sense. With NI's latest offering to only new purchasers of Komplete 14 - I am done with them, so you won't find me buying any NI controllers.

[@pushpatterns]

That is a good point about Arturia and especially Novation! The have been very quite, so something might drop? Yes the note app is wicked i did a video here comparing the similarities in workflow with the Push 3 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnXNpmlvo8d5rLM Yes the arrangement view/control is very limiting but I'm sure its something Ableton will grade to in the not so distant future! Have you look at the latest AKAI APC?

[@VentureNW]

@@pushpatterns yes, I almost picked up an APC64, since it’s pretty inexpensive.

[@pushpatterns]

@@VentureNW I think Im going to try that one out myself as well! I have heard lots of good things about it

[@technojunkies1]

Thanks for this! Im saving for one of these bad boys.

[@pushpatterns]

Great! I’m sure your enjoy it! If you need any help remember sub to the channel! I’ll be posting lots more tutorials :£

[@rumo201]

Push 3 is awsome! Ableton❤.

[@pushpatterns]

Totally agree! 🙌

[@remyvegamedia]

😢 It's so 'spensive. Haha. But the synths on Ableton vs. what's available on the MPC.... maaaan even just Drift is on a whoooole other level. Right when I feel like "nah I'd be cool with an MPC" I see one of your Push 3 videos haha.

[@pushpatterns]

I feel that, but you can get the controller version first then upgrade to stand-alone at a later day if you feel like it. So cool ableton have us that option!

[@paidinfullproductions7752]

The Mpc plug in Aura is nice but the others could be a lot better. And ableton 12 is 🔥. But you can’t go wrong with either

[@pushpatterns]

Amen! I’m looking forward to all the updates to push 3 this year!

[@remyvegamedia]

@@paidinfullproductions7752 You're definitely right, I could definitely be happy with either. Or both eventually. I agree I think Jura sounds great by default. I realized starting from an initialized patch on Tubesynth, Hype, and Odyssey yields better results than the presets haha.

[@pushpatterns]

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[@frankwalders]

pff a 6 minute long advertisement

[@pushpatterns]

Thanks watching 🙏

[@EBMZEQUENZER]

ABLETON 12 is a disaster : what a mess !! 😁😁😁

[@pushpatterns]

Really do you think so? What features are you referring too?

[@EBMZEQUENZER]

@@pushpatternsthis wole thing is a mess : I understand that people use it and it's popular : but holy crap: is it complicated and unclear how to do what : as it's being over engineered with every update : good luck for any newbie wanting to learn it :yet it's still missing essential tools : direct recording to a sampler like REASON devices: no built in sample editor : no dedicated transient sharper no pitch stretching for samples (not warping) CPU usage is horrific : I can go on and on the browser is a mess .... Don't get me wrong ( people love it ) and that's cool 😎 One good thing I can say about it : I don't own a copy and never will, 30 day demo gave me PTSD already And made me appreciate REASON that much more Cheers 🥂

[@pushpatterns]

@@EBMZEQUENZER Really thats strange, I found it much more stable than Live 11. Since the 11.3 update my Live 11 had been really buggy and crashing a lot. But YES! not direct recording to sampler is very good point, that is really good feature in the Logic quick sampler. It is taking a while to get used to the new browser TBH. Thank you for your points :)