The Truth About Bobcat Tractors - Just a Kioti Painted White?

[@RockhillfarmYT]

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[@jelipebands1700]

Your point about the dealer is spot on. Everyone should consider tractor buying on dealer service and location.

[@tomahawkjo8574]

Great video!!! I am so tired of everyone's first comment to Bobcat being "its just a Kioti". I have had 2 Bobcats and they have been great! Plus the Bobcat dealer is 10 minutes from my house and the owner is local and they are great to deal with. Thank you for the video!

[@juddblaney9320]

I absolutely love you comparing the brands like this. Nobody seems to wanna do it, they just wanna say good things about whatever brand they’re repping and not what their honest thoughts are. I have no problem buying a Bobcat, I just want to know that there will be parts available 10-15 years down the line. When you are all done with brands, I’d love to see you rank the brands by quality.

[@Vocatus2222]

I bought the CT4045 in March 2023 and with about 100 hours on it I could not be happier with the performance of the tractor and the local service. The only modification I have done is to put teeth on the bucket. I use it to mow about 20 acres of pasture, auger for fence posts and planting trees, box blade to level gravel and the feed lot. It's the perfect size for our little farm. No issues and no complaints. The dealer told me much of what you have presented in this video, so that makes me feel even more confident in my purchase.

[@TheRustyGarageandHomestead]

Brock, thanks for the explanation of some of the different lines. I think alot of people don't realize they're is a few manufactures that makes several of the difference tractors. All good products in their own right

[@artillerybuff2000]

Great information and very accurate as far as I know regarding the Bobcats. I was going to purchase a Kioti based upon reputation and capacity, but the nearest dealer was approximately 250 miles away. So I purchased the basically exact same model Bobcat from my local dealer only 20 miles away just in case it ever needed warranty work.

[@kurtd1796]

Thanks, Brock. Never enough videos that clear the air of the confusion that builds up. Thanks for taking the time to do the research. I'm sure it's helping buyers that are trying to make the best decision on this big, long term decision.

[@NoLimitsCommemorativ]

I had my Bobcat Ct1025 dropped off two weeks ago. I only got it because the dealer is 3 miles down my road vs 45 mins away for Kioti. Looking back at it I wish I got the Kioti because the dealer experience was sub-par with Bobcat and so was the sales person- awesome experience with Kioti and I was in a rush. That being said, I paid $18,200 out the door for the Ct1025 with the 60" mid mower and front loader for left over 2023 inventory. The one thing I wish it had that the Kioti had is the tilt steering wheel. Other than that, it's getting all the work I need done around my 3 acres.

[@oakiewoodsman]

Awesome way of relaying this information! I appreciate the time you put into these videos and how you present the information. Thank you Brock

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thank you sir

[@Farmer4Truth]

Great video. Honestly, most of these brands make a fine machine. It just depends on dealer support, price range and personal preference.

[@jstring]

I love my Kioti. Been a real work horse for us. Even if it is just a white Kioti you can’t go wrong getting either.

[@SilverAlert1]

What model Kioti did you buy? I’m looking at brands and I’m overwhelmed.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

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[@jstring]

@@SilverAlert1 ck3510 hse with a cab and front end loader. It’s more than you’ll need for the avg hobby farm or property maintenance. We’ve about 425 hours on it and other than stuff I’ve broken myself thru ignorance or stupidity it’s held up really nicely. We had a JD 1025 before that and we outgrew it within a year. Our dealer is really on the spot too and that helps

[@JennaMeyer-zf3bn]

I bought a CT1025 with loader, 60 inch rake and tiller. I also got the BH66 backhoe. I have a great dealer and that means everything when you are buying. I dont cae who built it as long as the support is there 100 percent.

[@tinkering123]

Always a good review. More you know, further you go.

[@Politicsuta2010]

I absolutely love the customer service I get from Bobcat of North Texas and that alone is why I do and probably will always get Bobcat Tractors.

[@mattmartines7895]

I have a Bobcat dealer 5 mins from me. Mostly why I went with them. Dealer and machine have been pretty good so far!

[@thomastucker5998]

I bought a Bobcat tractor 14 months ago and I have been very pleased with it. I have not had any issues with it. It is a quality tractor and a great value when compared to other brands. In my area, I had Bobcat, JD and Kubota to choose from. The Bobcat was about 25% less expensive than the Kubota and about 10% less expensive than JD and it came with more premium features than the other brands. I am very happy with this product and would highly recommend you check them out if you are in the market for a compact tractor. Mine is a CT-2025.

[@wildbill23c]

What warranty did Bobcat give you on the tractor? On the website all I could find was a 2 year, 1500 hour warranty.

[@stayinggolden2665]

Good info. Thanks!

[@livedlearnedDIY]

Good info. Merry Christmas!

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Merry Christmas

[@kennydieter8098]

Great explanation! The only correction is that the assembly plant for tractors is in North Carolina.

[@Spitzer3964]

I think most people fear that Bobcat tractors will become like Cub Cadet tractors. At least until they’ve done it a couple of decades would I trust a brand. There’s too many established tractor manufacturers. John Deere for example may sub out some of their manufacturing but they’ve always made tractors. Love your channel, glad it’s growing.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks

[@todd9453]

Brock I am going to say this again....people are going to be watching this tractor series for a long time. I have not seen someone actually use this many different brands in a comparison before. You are also very correct in pointing out the complicated relationships between different brands. This is very common in many different market segments (grills, power tools,etc). Look at the model number of the Yanmar engine in a 1025r compared to the same HP engine that's in a Yanmar tractor. There is an extra four letters at the end of the number. Why? Because JD wanted something a little different (probably in some capability) or Yanmar wouldn't sell JD the exact engine they use in their own tractor. Great job in your explanations! Video on.

[@BENNHENDRICKS33]

Unbiased fact based information, good stuff Brock.

[@freepatriot6313]

Great video Brock! Coming on up to that Deeluxx apartment in the sky compadre

[@lonewolfFirearms]

I'll stick with my kioti, for the extra lift capacity.

[@tman8939]

I will stick with Kioti as well , I do not like white paint on a tractor.

[@freepatriot6313]

@@tman8939I kind of think it looks good. But… I’ve been in construction for 45 years. So it may have rubbed off on me. 😂

[@SetitesTechAdventures]

@@tman8939 Yea the white paint kills me. The tractor would have to be clearly better in every way for me to get a white tractor, and even then I might paint it.

[@oefveteran09]

I like the white paint, though I do prefer orange. That said, Bobcat has a nicer hood design.

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

@@oefveteran09I like the white as well but I’m an all orange guy, Kubota for me.

[@robertteague7371]

I love my KIOTI tractor! I had a JD and had constant issues and have now left the brand. Evan my JD mowers have given me problems. Got a spartan mower now, NO more issues great zero turn. I am in the process of getting a skid steer and an excavator. I wish KIOTI made an excavator because I would buy it and there new skid steer.

[@oefveteran09]

That's a solid video, Brock; that said, as a consumer, my biggest concern would be their long-term support of the Daedong built machines. I don't expect them to pull the rug out from under their buyers like they did during their first foray into the market, but what will the support look like in the long run once Bobcat's priorities turn in-house? I wish they'd sent you a CT2025, though. I'd love to get your take on the capabilities of large-frame 25 horsepower machines.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

My only experience on one of those category machines was my neighbors 3025E John Deere. It’s a lot like this machine. Bigger than mine. Bigger tires. Still two range. I didn’t notice the horsepower difference. It seemed like it would push and pull and lift just as well as my higher horsepower tractor.

[@jimmerrithew453]

Hi Btock. Thank you for another intelligent and informative video.

[@KM-vc2yp]

I have a Bobcat 2025 and love it. I have about 10 acres of meadow to brush hog along with gathering wood for splitting and snow removal in the winter. The only thing I regret is not getting a higher HP like the 2040.

[@carebearstyle]

Thanks Brock very informative video

[@MartyHenderson-ie9sp]

Excellent explanation Brock.

[@zacwoofter5350]

I noticed you mentioned that New holland doesn’t use the same engines as LS, what do they use? I’ve been looking at the LS mt342 and 347 and the new holland equivalents seem to be about 10k more so just wondering what the differences are.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I can’t remember saying that. I think it is the same engine. I’m almost sure of it. LS builds these machines for new Holland and both companies need to make money. I would buy the LS. The only difference I know of between them is New Holland makes their own loader and it won’t lift as much. I’ve ran the LS 357 a few different times and done videos on it. Nice machine. I ended up with a TYM 574. One guy’s opinion

[@zacwoofter5350]

@ I really want the mt342hc but I think it may be a little out of my price range, have you compared the new mt242hc to the 342? I think that would be a good one. Keep up the great videos man, you have a lot of good content!

[@centralvalleycaliforniafarming]

A little over a year ago, Hyundai purchased Doosan. The company is now called Hyundai Doosan Infracore. Bobcat was not included in that deal, which made them an independent company again. The Doosan name in equipment is also now obsolete as they have changed their name to Develon meaning develop onward. Develon still makes Bobcat’s largest excavators, but it is only a matter of time before that ends.

[@bob5817]

I love my 3520 with the cab. Super strong and white looks dirty all the time.

[@detroitish3631]

FYI - I’ve found versions of Kioti CS2510 parts that are a direct (and cheaper) replacements for my Bobcat 1025. Transaxle fan, hoses.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

Back in 1982 I bought a International 284 tractor that was made by Komatsu. powered by a Nissan diesel.

[@pooch6178]

Hey Brock, I've been having problems with Industrial tires in wet situations. I have a Mahindra that I would have to pay 625.00 each plus 250. to 400.00 for shipping for Ag rims. That's just the rims. The Mahindra dealer suggested to get large ring chains instead of Ag tires and that way I would have the option of wet and dry tire applications. Any thoughts on chains? I would also choose a Yanmar tractor if I was getting another tractor. BTW I could use R14 tire on my current rims but what I've read and seen they don't live up to the advertised performance. Have a Safe and Wonderful day. I would also like to thank all the people for their comments and support.

[@Farmer4Truth]

So far I have put 90 hours on our R14s and they have been great

[@pooch6178]

Have you had a chance to try them in mud? Swampy wetlands etc. Thank you

[@Farmer4Truth]

@@pooch6178 yes actually I have used them in extreme muck

[@joeellis2692]

Im only looking at Bobcat and Mahendra because dealerships are a 5-minute drive from my farm. Also, I'm looking at Summit

[@PurpleCollarLife]

Very interesting! Does the Bobcat have larger tires for the chassis size than the equivalent Kioti does? Those rear tires on that Bobcat seem huge!

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I believe that part would be the same

[@Fatal4Life360]

I work for bobcat NA and some of bobcats are coyotes but we build a lot of our own now in Nc

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I think I said that in the video? Not 100% sure. But I was told is that bobcat is building all of them now, but it is still the same machine off the same design.

[@RichardLisboa]

I just found out, that develon the older Doosan that make contruction equipment is same bobcat company, just with a different line of products but very similar stuff with less computers and better price.

[@mkeating5111]

Need a cab so I'm considering a Bobcat CT2535 vs. a Kioti 2620. They're roughly the same price. My have a Bobcat dealer 15 minutes away who has only been selling them for six months. The Kioti is from 250 miles away (the one 45 minutes away hasn't been that interested in my business). Also thinking of an LS MT226 which is almost 5k less. What would you do?

[@RockhillfarmYT]

The Kioti will have more lift capacity on the same machine

[@mkeating5111]

@@RockhillfarmYT haha - just watched your other video where you compared the Bobcat and your JD where you discussed this very point! Thanks for everything you do. I'm totally new to tractor life and you and Courtney at GWT have been a godsend.

[@charlesperry1051]

I bought my Massey Ferguson GC1723 knowing it was built for MF by Iseki. Agco (Massey Ferguson) is a US based, global manufacturer of farm equipment. Long ago they partnered with Iseki for compact/subcompact tractors. MF does have influence on design and features. BUT the most important part for me is the parts and service are through my local MF dealer. I like to think of it as "I bought a dealer and it came with a tractor".

[@kdegraa]

Iseki is a good brand. Japanese quality.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Reviewing a Massey today. Any features I should try to highlight?

[@charlesperry1051]

​@@RockhillfarmYTI think they tend to have better than average lift capacity.

[@projectswithjw]

Morning.

[@toddcaskey9984]

2 nd looser 🤪

[@MonroeTractorGuy.16]

As an employee of a dealership that have locations of Kubota and Kioti, at one time (90s-2000s) Kubotas were built by Dae Dong -Kioti.

[@wildbill23c]

Other way around. A Kioti model tractor was partially built by Kubota. That's how the Kioti ended up with that Orange paint too LOL....

[@Jo-tw8kr]

​@wildbill23c In the early 1980s Kubota from Japan and Daedong from Korea teamed up to build what is known as the Kubota “02” series of tractors, namely the L1802, L2002, L2402, L2602 and L2802. It was a joint venture with Daedong manufacturing the transmission and Kubota providing its experience with the engine mechanics and other components. Interestingly, Daedong provided the design and fabricated the body sheet metal for these tractors which gives them their own distinctive look - no other Kubota looks like these tractors do. Despite the team effort, the “02” tractors are still largely Kubotas with exception of their transmissions which means many parts for them are still available today. Production of these tractors lasted from the early 1980s, peaked in 1983.

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

I’m lucky I have Kubota , Kioti, and Deere all within a couple miles from me. Probably others as well.

[@cbpagent72]

What about Steiner and Bobcat?

[@roadglide1142]

That’s why I stick with my Kubota! Everything is Kubota except the tires ! Lol 😆

[@wildbill23c]

The Bobcat tractor warranty I think is the shortest one out there for these size tractors....looks like the standard warranty is 2 years/1500 hours....seems like a lot of other brands are around 6 years?

[@davidmays2161]

Lots of info in this video. Who owns who. Good information here.

[@jimmin9802]

Bummer 1000 on what i am looking at would be sweet!

[@northernhumidor5615]

One other item of not. ( at least in Canada) the bobcat is selling at a higher price than the kioti.

[@MonroeTractorGuy.16]

Easy way is to look at parts, most of the time, there is a similar root number if same mfg

[@midwayfarms]

Good video

[@benjaminmiller6848]

I just got a bobcat troctor 2530

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Cool. Nice machine

[@raywalteroutdoors]

For guys who cannot convince your wife to buy a tractor show them the Bobcat. They love the white paint job. My 2040 is coming today!!

[@Supercruiser66]

Didn't BobCat launch their tractor line about a decade ago and then pull out of the market? This relaunch is maybe 2 or 3 years old

[@gravelytodd]

The earlier launch was also Kioti tractors

[@ProductiveRecreation]

Yes. Leads to some concern about the company’s commitment to tractors.

[@gravelytodd]

@@ProductiveRecreation Bobcat is opening their own tractor production facility in Statesville, NC

[@TheGrasspond]

Hmmm if they are really going to make them in ND I will buy

[@RockhillfarmYT]

The bobcat reps were at my house today. It seems they already are making them locally.

[@gtenterprisellc]

Bobcat’s Tractor manufacturer is located Statesville, NC

[@Jermainechandler-w5y]

Can u do a bad boy review on 4035

[@kdegraa]

Except for Kubota.

[@Joey-ij1jl]

What about any dealers in New brunswick canada 😂😂😂

[@Joey-ij1jl]

I'm picking up a new one tomorrow in Drummond new brunswick.

[@scottdupuis3316]

i have a ct2025 looked at a bunch of tractors 25hp and the bobcat has a way better backhoe set up , totaly different than kioti .

[@keithmaggard9024]

Brand loyalty isn't as important as it used to be these days the brand you like may have been built by someone you don't.

[@danyhernandez6656]

Good video, I just buy a bobcat ct2035 No work done yet till next week. I'm excited To make my first job done for a client 8/13/2024

[@carolbuell9715]

Is everyone ok there.

[@claytonbearden1676]

After owning a John Deere, Kubota, Mahindra, and Bobcat. All in the same class. I can tell you with 100% certainty, Kubota and Kioti/Bobcat are, by far, the best. The Bobcat has the edge over Kubota because it can lift heavier weight with the loader, its quieter, it turns sharper. However, the Kubota was abused and it never broke. So it also gets a nod from me. The Mahindra parts and service is beyond egregious. I can't believe they are even in business. The John Deere flat isn't as capable as the other machines. It's a whimp of a tractor. Almost so bad, its not even usable in the same class as the others. Mahindra is absolute total junk.

[@yolandalindsay8368]

This is 0ne way of selling another reputable manufacturer's proven & desirable product to your Loyal Customers. By first badging the product with your name and colors & then going on to manufacture that product as your own. Why fight to make a better wheel when somebody good has already made a great 0ne. All you have to do is gain the right to manufacture it for your Loyal & Worthy Customers.

[@HunsValley]

CT2040 no regrets.

[@MonroeTractorGuy.16]

It's been a Kioti since 2010

[@sculptureflame68]

I own a Bobcat 2025. Bobcat will never service selling any tractor. They don’t understand the compact tractor owners market.

[@rollynoland79]

DAEDONG makes the KIOTI tractor and the BOBCAT tractor. KIOTI doesn't have a MFG facility.

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

Kubota builds there own tractor top to bottom. I’ll stick with my tried and true 1988 Kubota L2850.

[@michaeleisenhart4847]

ok we get the connection of manaufacturing equipment...get on with the topic of the video

[@Dan-oz4qb]

There's really no reason Bobcat can't make an awesome little tractor if they wanted to right now. That one seems a bit dated, simplistic, and overpriced for what you get.

[@MonroeTractorGuy.16]

I want to know if this a Bob Cat channel? Are you compensated beyond given these tractors?

[@PgetzkeFarmstead]

Maybe watch the video before commenting.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I am not paid by Bobcat and I don’t keep these tractors. They are here for one week for me to make videos about.

[@brandonyoung7801]

Not New Holland John deere partnered with Hyundai

[@RockhillfarmYT]

A partnered with Hitachi on the excavators, but I’m almost certain there was also a new Holland partnership. Maybe both happened at different times?

[@MrDave9111]

Why would anyone buy a John Deere small tractor? Seriously. Why?

[@RockhillfarmYT]

There are three or four things that John Deere does better than any other competitor on a compact tractor. I do think they are over priced

[@terryknesek6922]

Brock, I have seen a couple sources that sware TYM makes bobcat tractors ??

[@northernhumidor5615]

No Kioti has a manufacturing agreement with bobcat

[@TheRustyGarageandHomestead]

Tym makes bad boy and took over the Branson line when they purchased then. Tym has also produced tractors for other brands over the years

[@TelescopeJunky]

TYM also makes Rural King tractors.

[@jamiefox9215]

Kubota is Kubota there mowers are Kubota there tractors are Kubota there motors are Kubota! Kubota’s are Kubota no partner ships all Kubota s are Kubota’s end of the story!!!!

[@kendrury3713]

Sold both of our Kubotas, end of story! Deceitful company selling imported parts for USA made pricing under their name.The $2 million civil suit says it all.

[@benjaminhale1454]

Kubota= overpriced overated underpowered. They need to stop taking Advantage of people it's ridiculous.