The Twin Nations of Jacob and Esau | Podcast Episode 17

The Bible is about to get Weird...
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[@That1guyiknow]

For all the late comers, the stream starts at 2:46. Have a blessed day.

[@Mr-Wonderful]

Thanks bro! 👍

[@lilletrille1892]

❤

[@SonofIiberty]

My guys love doing episodes during presidential debates

[@peanutbutter6720]

Well this is certainly more productive than anything that could be said in the debate

[@jordanator7199]

37:54 my favorite Bible verse is when Jacob said “Give me what I’m owed for my work” and Laban was all like “Äæąǔħūġľĩķę you being around”

[@Heath580]

Honestly "work hard labor for 7 years and get a beautiful wife, guaranteed" might be a better dating strategy than using dating apps and asking for numbers at the bar

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

The only show with a more sporadic schedule than the actual books of the bible.

[@milkman6385]

30:07 tall goth women are wendigoon’s Supernatural

[@baddragonite]

When you say it was some random dude out of the wilderness that comes up and wrestles him I like to imagine it as Macho Man Randy Savage

[@will9501]

Heretical? Probably. Hilarious? Definitely. I like to think The Good Lord has a sense of humor with stuff like that.

[@troyserdynski4030]

BONESAW IS READDYYYYYY

[@Auto_PiI0T]

First WWE match in history

[@pdg3513]

Nope Kane pulls a primitive version of hitting his opponent over the head with chair. Only this time it was a rock and Kane killed Able

[@kfchickeniscool8060]

@@pdg3513funny

[@DUKEHadToDoItToEm]

​@@pdg3513Abraham wasn't setting Issac on the altar for ritual sacrifice, it was so that he could get on the 18ft steel ladder and elbow drop him through the altar like a folding table

[@horseface31]

I like to think it opened with a clothesline

[@MightyAmygdala]

When I was in religious education in elementary school they taught us about David Vs Goliath and the entire time I could only think of "ahh cool it's like Rey Mysterio vs the Big Show, I understand this now"

[@lmartinson6963]

1:20:36 "Oh right, the poison. the poison for Kuzco. The poison chosen specifically to kill Kuzco. Kuzco's poison."

[@splugthegoblin8511]

It was just Nick, the fat electrician, in just a white beater and nothing else. That's who God sent at Jacob to wrestle.

[@sadiestrickland8959]

As a fellow Baptist who is in the South, we also use Welches grape juice (my dads the pastor, I have often had to buy it before services lol)

[@ivetterodríguez-j4k]

I had a friend who was Lutheran but I grew up Fundamentalist Baptist. Apparently grape juice for communion and baptism.not.having much importance is strange. And by importance I mean that we don't believe baptism seals or has anything to do with salvation.

[@ivetterodríguez-j4k]

Oh, and I'm in California and Baptist.

[@silence2314]

Baptist in the Midwest: grape juice. I don't know if it's specifically Welch's though

[@Jaggalicious]

Awe man I keep missing these. This show is the only thing I look forward too.

[@jbee1116]

Every rewatch helps us AND them, no worries mate!

[@Mad_Heretek]

I also keep missing them lol, but they update so sporadically it can’t really be helped 😂😅

[@austinlee4156]

This podcast is what got me back into the faith in a very depressed and paranoid time last year. I love your research and actually trying to place these things in a historical timeline. God bless you boys

[@beccalami4967]

If I’m remembering correctly, Benjamin is also biologically Rachel‘s son. That’s the main reason why during the whole Joseph story ark in Egypt, Jacob was so against Benjamin going with them.

[@becklyn3]

Was going to comment this but see you already have. Little facts like this are important for the story later. Also Rachel died when Benjamin was born thus Jacob was very attached with Joseph and Benjamin. They are all he had left of Rachel.

[@MercedesSLSJpak]

God wins the submission via inside heel hook despite smooth Jacob’s greasing before the match

[@Kilthan2050]

I grew up in a Church of Christ in ohio. We used grape juice. Our church position on alcohol (and other things) was, it may not be a sin, but you have to consider if your actions might lead others to stumble.

[@Fuzz_Aldrin88]

Was hoping for a "trade offer" joke about the soup and the birth right. Or maybe Aiden as trump saying "it was the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals"

[@AstroSalamander]

I go to southern pentecostal church and we use grape juice instead of wine too even though we don't think it's bad to drink lol

[@Articulo-Mortis]

Sent this to my Dad. Hope he enjoys as much as me and is something we can discuss.

[@huntergallant5655]

These streams have provided some of the best laughs I've ever had, it's a shame this podcast isn't more popular. You're doing the Lord's work, and being absolutely hilarious while you're at it!

[@jorahtheexplorer3262]

The Measage version is SPECIFICALLY mentioned to us as teachers as one NOT TO USE

[@ilijazivanovic6211]

New weird Bible let’s fucking gooooooo

[@aliceh5289]

The angel of God really said Power Word: Dislocate

[@AlexandreKamadov98]

Nice stream, thx for doing this podcast even if it’s once a month

[@mintyskittles]

The mental image of God in human form running towards Jacob like officer earl is highly amusing

[@ludium_Gambit]

Put in my superchat, and now I’m back to actually watch the stream!

[@wyattgill4552]

Hey guys love the show, was wondering if/when will it be put on audio platforms? I rarely catch the streams and would love to be able to listen to them when I’m at work. Keep up the awesome content and I hope this can become a more regular thing!

[@scubajho]

Keep in mind that Abraham pimped out his wife to King Abimelech "because she was too beautiful," so much so that he would kill Abraham for her if he knew she was Abraham's wife. She was in her 90's, he was over 100. So they go into the nation and settle down, claiming to be brother and sister. Abimelech then gets a dream from God, telling him she's married and that he will die if he doesn't relinquish her to her husband, which he quickly does. This is the wild stuff that they don't teach in Sunday school. It's also crazy to think that this was within 10 generations of Noah. It's fascinating. Edit: It gets wilder. The above was the second time he did something similar, in Genesis 20. He also did the same thing about 24 years prior, that time involving the Pharaoh of Egypt.

[@Toviyah1305]

Wasn’t it the Pharaoh of Egypt who fell in love with Sarah and had the dream? I could be wrong I haven’t read Genesis in awhile.

[@scubajho]

@@Toviyah1305 Oh my goodness, it actually happened twice. Once in Genesis 12 with the Pharaoh, and again in Genesis 20 with Abimelech. The man pimped his wife out on two separate occasions, once when she was in her late 60s, and again when she was 90.

[@Toviyah1305]

@@scubajho classic Abram

[@meatypizza420]

I'm halfway through house of leaves and this couldn't have come at a better time (iykyk)

[@noskcaj117]

Psalms 38:7 is pretty good verse

[@horseface31]

The message be like: hello fellow kids

[@Black_Heart_Defense]

“We are gonna keep this to a solid hour and a half or so”

[@jilldover2554]

I watch all your channels (Aiden, Aiden, and Isaiah) but this is by far my favorite thing you do. I’m Catholic and teach math at a Catholic Middle School and when I retell my students stories from the Bible I basically mimic how you tell it. The kids are so enthralled and can connect so much more. Thank you for the “modern” take on the Bible. And Veggietales does indeed SLAP.

[@CreamerOfTheDairySquad]

Found this through TimCast finally caught up with all the episodes can't wait for what's to come!

[@Seraphim117]

I attend a Baptist church in Southern California and we use grapes and unleaven bread. Our Pastor likes the grapes because it symbolizes Christ’s skin being pierced with the nails and spear

[@Godoftamales]

Somebody needs to animate this fight in the Baki art style please 💀

[@silver5866]

28:04 I grew up in the Methodist church in Tennessee, and we also always had Welch's grape juice.

[@jbee1116]

YAS PRAISE THE LORD🎉

[@OGA103]

Please keep making these! They are amazing!

[@Mexican-Inquisition]

Nice new weird bible episode. It's such a shame these don't get many views

[@darkzeke200x]

52:00 Why is it when they explain this random figure jumping out of the trees to fight Jacob I think of Peter Griffin fighting the chicken man.

[@dustinthewind357]

I look forward to watching these as much as the younger me looked forward to new Power Rangers episodes

[@gremlin2550]

Announcer 1: looks like Jacob is trying to get away! Announcer 2: oh my god, here comes YHVH off the top rung with a steel chair!

[@D990990990]

We are so back!

[@TH-ul1kf]

1:06:00 Wendi the Calvinist

[@Yilsworld]

Anyone else having issue where all vids not appearing on the channel?

[@ethanhinojosa4371]

All the videos that have come out since they started streaming on this channel are under the live category instead of the video category because they were live streamed Lmk if that helps

[@equusheart3344]

I can't believe I missed this stream! I had a question about Jacob's ladder.

[@will9501]

Wonderful stuff as always. Very much looking forward to the Unsubscribe episode. Those guys need an occasional checkup to make sure they aren't getting too silly.

[@becklyn3]

I can attest to the grape juice thing in the southern baptist tradition here in Missouri in regards to communion. Been raised baptist and there is a very strong aversion in the older generation to any type of drinking. The younger generation is not averse to it they just believe that alcohol can lead to sin if one gets drunk.

[@wigster2]

I was raised Lutheran and we had real wine. I now go to a nondenominational (mostly baptist) church that does the grape juice thing. Personally I prefer the wine route, however I understand why the grape juice is used instead based on the cultural alcohol problem the USA has. The church does not want to cause one of their members to stumble if that member has struggled with alcohol use in the past.

[@LucasJKey]

Chiming in on 28:00 . Most Baptist take the Zwingli approach which says that the bread and wine are just symbols. Some churches would go as far as grape juice and a loaf of bread. Most anti wine Baptist beliefs seem to come from the prohibition.

[@bluegrassmaniac3740]

Thank you

[@crazyand2099]

I wish they had looked up how the Message butchered the Lord's Prayer.

[@baddragonite]

RKO OUT OF NOWHERE

[@catherinelopez1876]

Thanks!

[@rallejensen3795]

man i keep on missing these livestreams.

[@FinnaBuss]

Kane is sassy the Sasquatch confirmed?

[@fandommaniax9179]

"I hope the husky calms down someday" nope fellow husky owner it doesn't happen lol😅

[@johornbuckle9533]

Classic bowl of soup debacle

[@mookiedoeslife5999]

Y'all gotta check out the new series "The Promised Land"; It's Exodus meets The Office!😂

[@cehequite6861]

We're so back

[@kfchickeniscool8060]

Stream start 2:47

[@ItsSquonkingTime]

Thanks 8060

[@eleanorofaquitaine1201]

The guy who wrote The Message did my commencement speech in 2010. He was an old-ish man. Def a Boomer. I’m pretty sure he wrote it in the 70s or early 80s.

[@eleanorofaquitaine1201]

My bad. I just looked it up and guess he wrote it in the early 90s. He’s also deceased, so RIP you glorious lunatic.

[@paulwright110]

Out of curiosity personal opinions on Ammon Hillman?

[@comradesomo]

More dunking on hilariously bad translations please!

[@noahthurman4257]

My church uses grape juice, too, but we are not really Baptist

[@thedoomofred5174]

Most of the denominations of churches I have been to use grape juice. I’m guessing it’s a moral point so people under 21 aren’t conflicted.

[@tismazelner3992]

Loved this! How can I contact you guys? I have a Bible question

[@Bingo1Dog]

The message is worse than what I did in my confirmation class when we had to translate Bible verses into text speak (like lol, brb, omg)

[@TheSlammurai]

Jacob saw God coming up the ramp with the title belt over his shoulder and tried to bail from the ring but God pulled him back in and hit him with a People's Elbow to the thigh.

[@LocaltheStream]

Bro, Isaiah said he would proclaim Kayla as a Godess while he burned at the stake for it. Man's roasting Jacob for pulling weeds for 7 years. 😂 just having a laugh

[@ItsSquonkingTime]

1:47:37 unsubscribe podcast shout out!!!!😂

[@SchoolSpeechChannelbecausethel]

may I interest you in New Living Translation? I think it blends the best of both sides quite well

[@kfchickeniscool8060]

YESEEEESSSS

[@mitchell4047]

Dang it missed it again

[@jbee1116]

Glad you're here now 🙌🏼

[@gdprince748]

Doesnt have to be on this chanel but yall do something with the dead sea scrolls

[@user-rq9fc1ld6w]

Have y'all ever read the Hawaiin Pidgin version of the NT? "Da Jesus Book"?

[@Novsev9069]

This is from the message but can anyone guess what this is it’s God, the Master, says: Because the Philistines were so spitefully vengeful-all those centuries of stored-up malice!-and did their best to destroy Judah, therefore I, God, the Master, will oppose the Philistines and cut down the Cretans and anybody else left along the seacoast. Huge acts of vengeance, massive punishments! When I bring vengeance, they’ll realize that I am God.”

[@jorahtheexplorer3262]

Modern Catholicism tends leas towards Papism and more Marianism, which a LOT of other denominations call Idolatry

[@jorahtheexplorer3262]

Im Catholic BTW and teach in a Catohlic school

[@SchoolSpeechChannelbecausethel]

Isiahs last name is nicholas, it says so in the bottom right of the discord call

[@rdd455]

❤️

[@austinwatspoppin]

😮

[@DUKEHadToDoItToEm]

38:46

[@21506ash]

Pog

[@unredacted9142]

Wats up with wendigoons mic ?

[@EXTREME_FLUFF]

I'm pretty sure it's an internet thing. He has the best internet he can get where he lives, but it's still not great lol

[@unredacted9142]

@@EXTREME_FLUFF ah ok I didn’t know that thanks

[@LucasJKey]

1:16:50 Wendigoon being KJVO is crazy to me Edit: Passion translation is worst translation

[@Black_Heart_Defense]

They mentioned the milch!!!!!

[@That1guyiknow]

Hey I wasn't able to ask a question during the stream. If you could answer, I would appreciate it. Isaiah, when did you learn to speak martian?

[@ChimpWithaHandGrenade]

Just came here from the other Lore Lodge Livestream (haha alliteration) and My Lord, this is exactly what I needed to get my blood pressure down lmao

[@Bingo1Dog]

I put that stream to have as background when I go to bed but damn was I getting mad at the amount of talking over others that was happening. I guess I'll fall asleep to this then actually listen to it at work tomorrow

[@LupinGaius-ls1or]

1:42:ish…prayer is not a sacrament, Catholics don’t teach that. You might be thinking of confession or conflating teaching about the Real Presence. Uniform prayers are designed to avoid heresy, but you can just free flow too.

[@robynwilde]

Reformed Presbyterian. My church used grape juice specifically because the highly controlling and awful woman who played piano wouldn't allow them to use wine. No theological reason. Please build your spiritual stamina and stop trying to make others conform to your weaknesses.

[@nicholasramirez8417]

The wine thing. Jesus drank real wine. ‭John 2:10 NASB1995‬ [10] and *said to him, “Every man serves the good wine first, and when the people have drunk freely, then he serves the poorer wine; but you have kept the good wine until now.” I'm a recovering alcoholic. I know from experience, the reason they could tell that wine was better is because they already had plenty of WINE (not grape juice) to drink. They know that the wine Jesus made was stronger than what they were already drinking. Yes. Jesus gave people who were already drinking stronger wine. That's all I have to say.

[@robynwilde]

Thank you. The gymnastics people do to get around this verse make me have very un-Christian thoughts. 😅

[@becklyn3]

Growing up baptist i have found "go ahead and avoid it altogether since it may cause a problem in the future" as a way of thinking. In the past this has applied to dancing and playing cards, which are in no way a sin. I also noticed a ton of older people who subscribe to this came from or experienced alcohol destroy either their family or a friends family so that is actually their motivation for this theology, not the bible.

[@williamlittrell2271]

PLEASE TURN UP YOUR VOLUME

[@ivetterodríguez-j4k]

Unrelated but I thought I'd say this here. You know how Ephesians 5:22 tells wives to submit to their husbands? Well, 7 years ago I told a guy that God expects women to be submissive to their husbands. I just conjugated the word submit to submissive. Lets just say he thought I meant submissive in bed. 😂 Then I told him that in one of Pauls letters he tells the married couples that they may control each others' bodies which would have been revolutionary then. 😂 1 Corinthians 7:4 The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. I taught this guy a lot of Paul's teachings. That and that the Northern Kingdom and Southern. Kingdom were called Israel and Judah respectively. That the Assyrians and Babylonians took over for some time. The guy was studying theology but I managed to teach him a few things too. Thanks to him I know I'm Arminian, memorialist, credobaptist, uh.. a few other things I'm forgetting. Luke, if your reading hi, it's Ivette. I put my maternal last names on this account instead of Rodriguez.

[@im2toxic4uentertainment7]

Aiden’s on unsub!!!!!!! I can’t wait holy crap

[@ItsSquonkingTime]

Same!

[@gdprince748]

Close your say dear god,father, and just talk

[@skater468]

please stop rushing these with the “gotta get out of here” stuff. More bible reading, less answering dumb questions. You barely made it through the whole story on this one. Kind of disappointed.