Welcome to Hell | The Weird Bible Podcast: Episode 2

Aidan and Isaiah dive into one of the most cheery aspects of the Christian Bible: eternal fiery torment. Welcome back to the Weird Bible Podcast...

[@sammykane5967]

Not religious but want to have faith. Always in a dark place but Wendi and Aidan always keep me engaged and happy in all their media

[@Joeman4627]

Faith is all you really need but going to church is going the extra mile for Christ

[@jacobscott2830]

Christ knows every wrong thing you’ve ever done and still loves you sacrificially. There’s no greater peace.

[@aurizzistic]

​@@Joeman4627It isn't that easy. Fundamentally there is a divergence in my personal brain and perhaps the commenter where we WANT so desperately to believe but I didn't even believe in Santa Claus(and not to be sacrilegious or disrespectful but any and all deities are just as real in my brain) however we still WANT something that fills that lack. There's a mix of Nietzsche and Kant that talks about this. I've read the bible, I grew up catholic, got a religious education. I wish I could believe and have faith. I just can't however.

[@aurizzistic]

Glad to know im not alone in this sentiment. I hope you're well brother.

[@sammykane5967]

@@aurizzistic doing a lot better than I was when I posted that dude hope you're doing ok too my dude

[@GoosemanBF420]

I hate to take away from the loving comments but I need to say it. The beginning of the video, Aidan sounds like a crazy person who’s talking to his imaginary friend.

[@brian_phipps]

Wendigoon is all of our imaginary friends, a cryptid if you will

[@silver5866]

I love this comment. It really does seem like that. If it wouldn't mean missing out on what he's saying, I'd watch a whole stream of imaginary friend Wendi.

[@wimferpeh2344]

You guys jump started my journey into the faith, thank you. Keep up the good work, gentleman

[@5th_Avenue]

W

[@michaelgarcia2197]

Congrats man! I hope the Lord draws you close in your journey 👍🏻

[@stupotgorilla]

Lmao Nicodemus listening to Jesus "I like your funny words magic man"

[@Papakhan9636]

You're just going to casually drop that Moses dies with out a spoiler warning

[@hihello3372]

Dude! FR. I was expecting him in season 2 :(

[@RedPandaHailey]

Love the comment from chat around 58:00, "Sacrificing children is not very cash money of them."

[@LWolf12]

Micheal to the Devil "I'm going to erase the memory of you in a few thousand years. Do you really want to speed up that timeline?"

[@ChadOfAllChads]

I guess he didn't succeed

[@sexonlithium]

​@@ChadOfAllChads lol

[@NicoChase]

"don't make me Weirder" -Wendigoon 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@Darkside-sj3mo]

I've always wondered why God didn't do more obvious physical stuff in our time, and to be honest it has made me doubt my faith on occasion, and wendigoon just explained it perfectly. Thank you Isaiah.

[@anissacole5285]

It’s always refreshing to see a very firm believer of Christianity also believe in the science of the world. I think if god did create the world, it was created with intention and the way we understand it today. Like god created the earth with intention of plate tectonics and controls spaces and all that stuff that’s an interesting thought to me and as someone who enjoys learning about science and religion this is very cool to hear from you guys

[@masterofshadows8904]

I've been on my faith journey for almost 2 years now, finding out you were a Sunday school teacher, wendigoon, has helped my journey along. Been wanting a podcast like this from both of you for a while. Thanks!

[@unsane78]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[@slowitty8918]

Yeah, was about to say, I know Wendigoon is simplifying, but I feel like he crosses over into a little bit of Heresy here 😢, I think this is the first time I disagreed with him theologically.

[@hihello3372]

Wait what did he say? I mustve missed ut

[@_UltimateNation]

Man, I should've been listening to this podcast sooner. I really like you guys' take on Hell. It never sat well with me that God would close the door FOREVER. If one has the Spirit of God in them--or even if one doesn't but WANTS the Spirit within them--then I believe they should be saved, even if they never received the Spirit in this life (and even if they made some BIG mistakes which they regret). However, there are people who actively do NOT want the Spirit within them. Those people, I believe, might CHOOSE Hell, which (to me) is separation from God. ... Even then, I can't help but imagine that there may be angels who descend into the fiery pit, hoping to save even those who do not wish to be saved.

[@neonlovegalaxy]

I love this thought. I don't claim to know the mind or morality of God or angels, but if I were an angel and God was willing then I'd want to stage a search and rescue operation into the fiery pit to bring back as many souls as possible. What is love but the willingness to brave the absolute worst to give someone the absolute best? I'd like to think God understands that, and that people who end up in the darkest places--not understanding why they are there and that they don't actually need to be there--could and would be rescued by valiant angels fighting through the blackest night of the soul to save them. It's like rescuing a trapped animal who is scared and angry and lashes out in confusion. You understand that the animal is trying to escape from you because it doesn't understand you, and if it did then it wouldn't be afraid or angry. There are a lot of people like that on Earth, and I don't just mean as relates to God. I also mean as relates to other people, to each other. There is so much confusion that results in fear and anger.

[@dissonantwhispers7632]

These podcasts deserve more views than they get. Love the content guys. Keep up the good work!

[@mckennazollinger7728]

I grew up Mormon so this has been super interesting. Keep up the good work!!

[@Chad_Thundercock]

I've never hear the egg analogy. I've always thought of it more as H2O - same absolute material, with three forms and properties, as ice, water, and steam.

[@austinrenshaw9050]

That would be modelism then, not the Trinity.

[@davidsandrock7826]

@@austinrenshaw9050 And the egg analogy falls into partialism. That’s the problem with analogies. If anyone really wants a firm understanding of the trinity, I would tell them to read the Athanasian Creed.

[@riatsila144]

Moses and Elijah were when Jesus was tranfigured on the mountain, not Gethsemane, but that detail aside, yeah, really awesome. I believe the significance was Moses represented the law, and ya boy Elijah representing the Prophets, and they both basically step aside, and Jesus steps in to fulfill "The Law and the Prophets"

[@tammyginmn3380]

Old and new testament (2 witnesses....symbolic)

[@Rev3lat1on.]

Even though I’ve watched all of these live, I’m just putting this playlist on auto play to get the view hours up! Keep up the Great work guys!

[@Jessesgirl78]

I do that too and like, comment, subscribe, and share. All the things. You guys are great

[@kianexplorerofthings3174]

23:40-23:59 hits different with the Hamas stuff going on 😂

[@lilletrille1892]

FYI Because of these podcasts I've downloaded the Bible in both English and Norwegian on my kindle. (When I moved abroad I packed my Bibles in a box I meant to get later, but it's been stuck in storage)

[@benh5541]

Love the way hell is presented in the Sandman Series.

[@liquidwater2]

Man they really called it with the Middle East becoming the second theatre of wwIII

[@legendofswoop0986]

I always use the tea analogy you need three things to make tea, fire, water, and tea bag three to make one but absolutely dumbed down to insane standards 🤣🤣

[@immortallegacy100]

47:50 That dog barking took years off my life. Great video, but I'm not sure if it was worth it lol.

[@wowitsfrostygames155]

so, an easy way for me to confidentially say the whole fire and brimstone description of hell is mostly if not entirely metaphorical is everything is contextualized under Jewish understanding. "Lake of fire" specifically i think is a call back to Daniel. "The Ancient of Days Reigns 9 “I kept looking Until thrones were set up, And the Ancient of Days took His seat; His garment was white as snow, And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with flames, Its wheels were a burning fire. 10 A river of fire was flowing And coming out from before Him; Thousands upon thousands were serving Him, And myriads upon myriads were standing before Him; The court convened, And the books were opened. 11 Then I kept looking because of the sound of the boastful words which the horn was speaking; I kept looking until the beast was killed, and its body was destroyed and given to the burning fire." Daniel 7:9-11 in this image a beast is already killed destroyed, and its corpse is what is being thrown into the fire. Now, we can argue about "Lake" vs "River" but personally i think this is semantics. the imagery is strikingly similar and I have a hard time believing its an accident. Especially considering the most harrowing imagery of lake of fire comes from revelations which pulls primarily from the old testament to get its material. if you dont know the old testament you dont have a snowballs chance in hell (HAH i crack myself up) of being able to remotely understand revelations. So when revelations says people are thrown into the lake of fire.... These two images are almost certainly made to sound similar on purpose. and also i think if you REALLY sit with it for like 5 seconds it just... doesent make sense. God literally purged the Canaanites from their land over sacrificing their children by burning them alive, God literally stating the very idea of it had never crossed his mind for these people to do such a thing and yet here they were doing it. THAT God is going to be so petty about people not doing things his way hes going to throw them in eternal fire and keep them alive forever while he does it? this is a million times worse than anything the Canaanites did. I cant tell if the idea of that is a Satanic deception or a silly idea but honestly at this point in my life nothing short of God himself pulling me aside and saying "here lemme show you" would convince me that literal eternal fire is the price of rejecting salvation.

[@Spooklord_Nito]

I've seen a pretty good argument for that what happens after you die, is you lie in your grave until judgement day. Basically sleeping, but you're dead. Then once you are judged you either are welcomed into heaven, or you are cast into this lake of fire with the fallen angels. That is when you literally die, like your soul is annihilated, referred to the "second death". All the while the fallen angels will suffer forever for their wickedness. Either way if im wrong, hell is not good lol

[@melgibsonafter5beers329]

You two have to make this a weekly thing, great stuff.

[@ShueMatta]

I love how y’all explain things!! Keep going!!

[@Lillxin1]

Glad to see the new Channel taking off!

[@thadtheman3751]

Hell is the place where you have to live with people who belong in hell. "Hey Dolfy, how's it going?"

[@ShrexyGuy]

What'd Dolph Lungren do tho? Jk

[@thadtheman3751]

@@ShrexyGuy Wrong Dolf.

[@ceraph133]

“There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.” Cs Lewis. Tall coping a little on the pugatory/ outer darkness stuff. Best bet is on the above quote. You have the choice now, make it.

[@swerboy8008]

Yall make the bible interesting... Thanks

[@Kaz-qz2oq]

Before he was Iceberg Boy, he was Giant Boy

[@ianbuchan8548]

One thing to bring up is the verse that implies Jesus took people out of sheol after the cross. Plus the verse in psalms that states that human souls are made in the depths of the earth.

[@Blackpablo212]

Can you do a Weird Bible episode on the Kabbalah? I've only ever heard snippets of it and i bet you would explain it better

[@NealBones]

A channel called "Esoterica" dives into it really well in a educational matter if you're still interested

[@dustydesertdisciple6290]

Hell to me is seperation from the love of my life Christ Jesus, to those who still sleep I pray you awaken and are set free like I was. God bless you all the days of your life.

[@epppyyy]

I love your podcast and I am hearing it for days. I even plug it in while going to sleep and I really feel at comfort. I have turned down many Christian podcasts and honestly liked this one. I just wanted to request that can you cover a topic like, how to look at Bible when you know that many things were inspired or not real. For example, creation might be inspired from other creation myths, story of flood was inspired by other flood events and so on. It is something that bothers me many times and I would really love an episode on that. I look at it sometimes like Moses who was a knowledgeable person, since he was raised richly, studied a lot and he penned down everything with the grace and inspiration of God.

[@ethanfaulkinbury8640]

As a mormon listening to you all talk about how you view the trinity is fascinating, as mormons see them as three diffrent beings, but one in there overarching purpose.

[@mysteriousstranger5873]

Christ explaining the afterlife to us is like a 4d being trying to explain what the fourth dimension is like. While we have a rough understanding, we are physically unable to fully grasp it because we are limited by a 3rd dimension. I think God using math and physics to create the world is comparable to the ‘4d games,’ that are starting to crop up. We are getting a snippet of what it is like, but can never fully understand it.

[@tammyginmn3380]

The story of Lazarus and hell... If hell is an event of 2nd reserection then a person could go out from New Jerusalem but a person outside the gate couldn't come in

[@zorgath420]

"turn the Middle East into the second theater of world war III" Me from the future 👀

[@llcoolray3000]

The egg is a pretty useless analogy for the Trinity. The physical states of water (solid, liquid, gas) would be better because ice, liquid water, and water vapor are all equally water. It falls apart because water cannot be all three at once. A man being a father, son, and husband helps because a man can be all three at once and the relationship he has with his son, father, and wife is distinctly different, but I prefer the example of man being mind (spirit), body, and soul. This also helps explain what it means to be made in the image of God.

[@TheWhiteTrashPanda]

I'm not saying this is legit, I'm just saying that revelation speaks of an eagle crying "Terror! Terror!" Kinda sounds like what the U.S. has been doing for the past 25ish years... . . . . . . . This is 80% sarcasm, btw.

[@ShrexyGuy]

Ironic since we've been making other countries scream "Terror, Terror!" for about 70 years. No sarcasm intended lol

[@captain_squiddy]

Good video!

[@DesignerPlacebos]

Thanks!

[@brandonw.peebles4225]

Another metaphor for the Trinity that's not perfect but is pretty decent is water. Water can take the form of solid, liquid and gas but it's always all still H2O regardless of it's form just like every member of the Trinity is always God regardless of form. The only problem is that water can only be one form at a time.

[@flamecayenne3325]

I’m actually not on the lore lodge channel😎

[@CuratorOfCurios]

46:55 What it felt like being a scholarship kid at a private school.

[@FlatWaterGuerrillas]

Is there any possibility that the walls of Jericho, the soldiers marching around for seven days as well as the blasting of the trumpets caused some sort of vibrational error. Hard to explain, but what if they shook the stones loose overtime??

[@maylikethemonthsam]

I feel really dumb for asking this, but I also feel like my brain is short-circuiting due to the religious dogma that was pounded into my head as a kid. Is the implication really that God doesn't send non-believers to a firey pit of hell and that you're given the chance to repent? And that if you believe, you're good to go? I feel like that's what I'm hearing and it makes me sad for little me who couldn't reconcile the God of my faith and the God who I was told was real. Who would send my Catholic friends to hell because they pray to saints. Who would send me to hell because I feel differently than how I'm supposed to. Super frustrating, but very comforting.

[@brandonw.peebles4225]

For me personally, without having yet finished this podcast, I think the concept of the afterlife is very very vague and mysterious in the Bible. I would encourage you to look for every reference to the afterlife in the Bible and look at it in context and also what the original words they used are. Because there are differences between Tartarus, Gehenna, and Sheol. And as they talk about in this podcast, the Jewish concept of the afterlife is very different than what Christians today believe and so it's important to think about what the Jews believed at the time the New Testament was written. I don't think we can confidently say who is going to heaven and who is going to hell. Christians have tons of debates about this. Billy Graham famously said that he thought people from other religions could possibly go to heaven. Some Christians are Christian annihilationists (which is an interesting doctrine you should check out). I think because we don't really know what it's going to be, we should play it safe and get on the right side of God no matter what. Even if there is no eternal suffering, it might be best that you act as if there might be and play it safe. But because there may not be eternal suffering, why would you let this be the issue that takes you away from the faith? I personally think that Catholics are just about as valid as any other Christian denomination and they sin too just like us. There's no reason why they, or you, or any of us would go to hell if we truly have been saved by God from our sins and have received salvation and forgiveness. Don't let this issue separate you from God and I encourage you to get back into praying, reading and maybe even attending church. You won't regret it, I promise.

[@jgriffin9084]

We use the water explanation for the trinity. Water can be a solid, liquid and gas, but it never stops being H2O

[@benh5541]

In my catholic religious teachings (middle europe) hell was banished by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. There also is no devil in our understanding of the text. Because why would god allow it to exist if he was all mercyful and omnipotent.

[@mysteriousstranger5873]

We need a doom clone where you play as Michael

[@DUKEHadToDoItToEm]

5:14 TIL where the name for the unique shiskibab weapon in Fallout 3 comes from

[@jgriffin9084]

John 1:1-3 clearly points to Jesus as being present from the beginning.

[@CMAdoubleT83]

So like I know I'm a year late, but I always thought water was a better description of the Trinity. You have ice you have steam and you have liquid. At all times they are fully water being that they are H2O. Steam has a different function than ice but is still H2O. Liquid has a different function than steam but it's still H2O.

[@zewensenpai]

not a christian but one of the most based pod on the wide net

[@MarshallTheArtist]

That makes two of us

[@LWolf12]

1:11:27 Dang Isaiah you okay there? Look like you gave yourself chest pains with that drink.

[@mattkeene3084]

Believe me or not I had a near death experience and saw hell It was an abyss full of souls being tortured and wailing like nothing I’ve heard on earth this experience changed my life and I have trauma from what I experienced that I had to overcome their more to this story of course but very life changing experience

[@imago2758]

Could have been a hallucination from a near death state. As far as I can tell, Paul uses language of sleep concerning the dead(1 Corinthians 15:20), which comes from both Daniel 12:2 and Isaiah 26:19.

[@mattkeene3084]

@@imago2758 yeah I’ve made that argument to myself but my body was in a coma state which I know it could of been a coma dream but with the experience of that place and being saved by a glowing figure and waking up from my coma when I wasn’t supposed to has to play into as well I was not religious before this this turned me to God in Matthew 8:12 Jesus describes hell as a place of darkness

[@imago2758]

@@mattkeene3084 Interesting. It might have been a spiritual experience on some level. I’ve done some research on this topic myself, and have discussed this with others before. And, well, I find the whole thing a bit unclear. I’ve heard of people having seen things, while dead, that they shouldn’t have known about. Like a shoe on the top of the building they were in, that they’ve never seen before, or knew it was there prior. I’ve also talked to people who haves died and they experienced nothing, as if they were asleep while they were dead. On this matter, I take a physicalist perspective on humanity, which is that humans are not body, soul, and spirit, in the traditional understanding but just an existence that can only exist embodied, hence the reason for the resurrection. And that the descriptors of body, soul, and spirit mean something else entirely. But things like I mentioned before do get me wondering for sure on the subject matter. As for hell, I’ve definitely done some research on the subject matter. I find that the imagery the New Testament uses is most often from the old. Like hell, which can be translated from the word Gehenna, is specifically found in the book of Jeremiah. It’s a judgement against Israel when they sacrificed their children to the God’s of other nations. That judgement gets associated with the final judgment like in Mark 9:47-48. As for your example, interestingly enough, that doesn’t talk about Gehenna. It’s just outer darkness. This imagery comes from both Exodus (Exodus 10:21-23) and Isaiah (Isaiah 60:1-2). From what I understand, darkness can also be associated specifically with an area that has the powers of heaven judged (Matthew 24:29, Jeremiah 8:1-2). But the image may not overlap. Overall, the image seems like it’s dealing with a type of Exodus, and those being cast out into that area, whose powers have been shaken and judged, are like the Egyptians. As for the weeping and gnashing of teeth, that imagery is used for sadness and anger (Psalm 112:10). They are kept outside when the Lord comes back to sit on his glorious throne. And those, who are outside, whose God’s have been or are being judged, are excluded from the event and wait for judgement. They will weep in sorrow and gnash their teeth in anger against the Lord. That’s kind of what the imagery gives off. From what I understand, after that, those in that place will be slaughtered by the Lord and his armies, which are the believers (Revelation 17:11-14, Revelation 19:11-15, Revelation 19:19-21, Malachi 4:1-3). This should parallel the book of Joshua when they enter into the land of their inheritance.

[@mattkeene3084]

@@imago2758 I do think it was a type of spiritual awakening for me but I do believe I went to hell I’m not the only person who has ever said this I do not know the Bible well enough to quote this scripture or that I’m still learning but hell is pretty much described as a place you don’t want to go and to be honest we don’t know what it really looks like cause the Bible calls it hades tarderis i know is describes it as that valley hell is described as burning like the valley but also a place of outer darkness and to be honest I have legit ptsd from that experience if I wasn’t pulled out by a figure that looked like a man dressed all in white with nothing but a beautiful shining light around him I believe I’d be dead and gone from this world cause I survived getting half my face crushed and losing 4 pints of blood by the time I got to the hospital and I didn’t have an ambulance or anything I was rushed there by panicked people and I walked in i could feel myself dying and that’s a strange feeling u can literally start feeling your soul leave your body but to me my experience was very real I hope I’m not coming off as rude not trying to but this is what gave me faith was who I believe Jesus pulling me out of hell I’ve shared my story at church and other places people say I was a miracle and that I have a mission to tell people about the other side and give them a warning of it

[@imago2758]

@@mattkeene3084 I would say it sounds like Jesus pulled you from death, for sure. But, I would say scripture is more clear when researching the Old Testament on these things.

[@KevinMartin314]

I pictured the 11 months more like in the context of the justice system. Ammendment 3 of the hell bill of rights is that you may not be held more than 11 months without being charged

[@expiredgatorade1999]

"welcome to hell" wasn't indicative of the topic being hell so much as referring to the hell that is attempting to discuss the trinity coherently - fucking hilarious when they started going down the rabbit hole of allegories to eggs and star wars

[@TheDrunkenCelt]

1:06:50 Based.

[@jacques-henryblaques7879]

Is the lore lodge really a freemason?

[@tammyginmn3380]

Yes. He has said so. Assuming not high enough up to know the mysteries that separate. Like Lucifer is Jesus brother and actually the true Christ. (I obviously don't believe that, I just know the old version of Morals and Dogma has this in it)

[@tristanmakin9493]

NKJV Mathew 17:3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him.

[@davidsandrock7826]

34:05 Jonathan Edwards!

[@madplasmaphysics7122]

Why aren't more christians like this two dudes? I can see how it can be insulting for some. im actually considering giving the bible a try. * My family have tried to introduce me to the bible through hermenautics, homiletics,escatology apologetics,exegesi...But thats just a bit too much for my brain to process, this poscast seems to be a good way to learn.

[@benjaminbatema6963]

The space movie was event horizon.

[@donny5843]

the explanation of the trinity i got was that God was like a human, Jesus is the body, God, the father, is the mind, and the Holy Spirit is the soul

[@immortallegacy100]

It should be noted that the one time the Bible refers to Tartarus by name (2 Peter 2:4), it's referring to the fallen angels which are being held in chains until the day of judgment. I'm not necessarily a "layers of hell" kind of guy, but I do think fallen angels not only being in the Greek/Roman's deepest, darkest pits is interesting, but they're also in chains down there. I guess they're an extra security measure, but I'd assume this would also mean there's different layers in a sense. Personally, Hitler hanging out with an otherwise good person that just never gave their life to Christ (we all have non-Christian friends) would be rather odd. I don't think it's unreasonable to think certain individuals based off their sins pave their way to a different part of hell.

[@mysteriousstranger5873]

In revelations 20 it states that the seas will give up their dead to be judged, so it’s not impossible that those who were not Christian will be removed from hell and given a second chance during the end times

[@immortallegacy100]

@@mysteriousstranger5873 The same verse you're referencing says that hell also gives up its dead in order to be judged. This isn't a "second chance" to repent. The next verse literally says death and hell were thrown into the lake of fire, along with everyone whose name isn't in The Book of Life. This is the last judgment.

[@18account80]

Jesus be like: “New Testament, who dis?”

[@Blowingmind]

23:50 this aged like wine

[@vinyllp9963]

Ive lost my faith long ago and was never able to talk to anyone knowledgeable until my mind was sealed, but still find this stuff interesting... My biggest question about hell is a theoretical one...If Lucifer seeked redemption, would god accept it l..and if so, would hell cease to exist

[@tammyginmn3380]

In my opinion God knows Lucifers heart is past turning. The unpardonable sin.

[@bmbmw69]

I think he would. But Lucifer is too proud. Also I'm pretty sure hell was there before Lucifers fall.

[@peanutbutter6720]

I can’t say anything about the part about Lucifer. If he was human, I’d say definitely, but I don’t know how the rules work for angels. Hypothetically if he could I’d imagine one of the more powerful demons would take his place. Hell itself wouldn’t disappear though, he didn’t create it, he’s just it’s number one prisoner.

[@salvtrooper113]

You guys should lo ok into Bill Wiesel’s 23 minutes in bd testimony.

[@mrghost3272]

20:00 I had to literally use this egg analogy because some dude kept claiming "Actually, God is three different Gods at war with each other. And I'm right because I believe in the fourth God. and you are stupid!"

[@LeastFav]

2d floor 3d person 4d thought ? ? ? "Gehenna : the place outside of Jerusalem. "

[@domg.1011]

John 3:16 is one of the few verses I have memorized. Many of them I know vaguely, but john 3 verse 16 is the one most catholics (christians?) have memorized because "it symbolizes our faith distilled into one verse" 1:08:50 it's "the cornerstone of all christianity itself" as wendigoon put it. For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, so that all who believe in Him may be saved. Or smth like that. "For God so loved that world that he sent his only begotten son whosoever believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life" is what wendigoon said so I'm not so far off. The other ones are genesis 1:2, this is the day the lord has made let us rejoice & be glad what is that psalm 118:4?, & only the wicked run when there is noone chasing them, the righteous are as bold as a lion. Those are some of my faves, but ofc there's also corinthians about love & the shepherd one but those I only vaguely know & idek the books/chapters/verses. My mom likes the one like "these are the children the lord has blessed me with" but idr remember it.

[@LWolf12]

I think the warning in Revelations is more meant to warn preachers and false prophets.

[@allyssabeer2265]

Some of the Jewish people from my understanding also think that when god flood the earth he was pregnant with an idea that at least is how I interpreted how the rabbis were explaining it in the bible study my friends mom hosted

[@7xME]

Wreck-it Ralph theory...wralph gets sick of the same Ole Shit

[@Idengard]

Side note: in medieval times it was believed that after death, everybody (except maybe martyrs or saints) goes to purgatory before they go to heaven. You know, to be purified. And people on earth could pray for them, to shorten their time in purgatory

[@tsukikosmith6908]

Please peek at Helluva boss. It had an interesting take on hell I think.

[@xqt6339]

As much as I would love to see Isaiah and Aidan talk about vivzie's version of hell in HB and HH; I do not see Isaiah being physically capable of talking about that show because of his ties with his church (keeping in mind he is bible belt, USA).

[@brandonw.peebles4225]

24:40 I disagree with what Wendigoon said here about God becoming two at the point that Jesus was decided to be sent down to earth as the final sacrifice. I think that Jesus made it clear that he was the Word and John makes it clear that the Word was with God at the beginning of time. I also think it's possible that some of the "angel of the Lord" appearances in the OT may have been Jesus. I just don't agree with the notion that God split himself into two beings and then later into a third being. I think the Trinity was present since the beginning of creation and this at least partly why God says "let US make man in OUR image" in Genesis.

[@lazy1417]

33:52

[@benh5541]

47:00 Not really sure where the part about the Pharaohs in the New Testament comes from... As far as I know Pharaohs were not present or relevant during the time of jesus Christ...

[@slowitty8918]

I will say, iirc Jewish scholars in the time of Jesus and before believed that even the old testament spoke of God as Father and Spirit. 1 God seperate beings, this is before Jesus, it just became far more clear with His coming and the New Testament.

[@paleloki23]

Watch super book

[@7xME]

So when humans don't feel well they're far from grace too?

[@NealBones]

What if I'm born with an illness?

[@tammyginmn3380]

Pretty sure many men of God and disciples In The Bible had illnesses. I don't believe God is worried about this physical body. He allows things in our life and changes it when needed to do His work. We bare the consequences of our sin and of living in a sinful world with corrupt DNA. Satan also heals so we need to not base our physical state on being in His will but learn to be so near to God to have peace in all circumstances.

[@LeastFav]

Why didn't I catch this?

[@LeastFav]

Creation got broke, and we're getting outa' here!

[@ordoabchao1308]

28:06 the bible doesnt dispute other minor gods. People are dumb and worship angels as gods when they are simply doing their specific task.

[@ChadOfAllChads]

Satans not all that bad. He just wants to get back at God, and in doing that he can give us what we actually want. Something real and tangible. If hes real that is. I dont buy into personally. Though I do think it would be really funny if he were.

[@xqt6339]

36:20 Hate to be "That guy" but you quoted scripture without context. Rev 22:19 does say that if you take from this book God will take from you, but IT SAYS THE OPPOSITE LITERALLY ONE SENTENCE EARLIER: Rev 22:18-19: "I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and [j]from the holy city, which are written in this book." (NASB) It is very very very (imho) explicit in that the author is stating "The prophecies in this book are to be taken as they were originally written, and do not attempt to alter (add nor remove) the prophecies because they are God's prophecies as he intended them."

[@koyo3376]

I'm glad you guys are Trinitarian but I don't think I've ever heard so much heresy about the Trinity espoused in one video. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are all coeternal and there has never been a moment in which they have all three not existed. The Father eternally begets the Son and the Holy Ghost eternally proceeds from them both. St. Thomas Aquinas speaks of the Trinity as subsistent relations. The Father is the lover, the Son is the loved one, and the Holy Spirit is their act of love. In short, subject, object, verb. They also can not be seen as parts of God. God is absolutely simple and by definition has no discreet particulars in his being. He is not composed of the three persons, the three persons simply are the necessary result of the very nature of God. Also, sin is not a thing in itself. Classical Christian teachings holds that sin is a privation of good. God is goodness itself and it therefor follows that he did not create sin but God created everything which means that sin isn't a thing. Satan is the first to sin but he did not create this "thing" we call sin, he misplaced a good. The good he misplaced is power, instead of rightfully submitting power to God, he decided he was better fit for it. Evil and sin can only destroy since there is nothing of substance to it.

[@stevenpina1983]

I’m more on your side of the fence as far as it Trinitarian believe. With that being said, I’ve never heard it put the way that you have stated here in this post though. I’ll put that on my memory banks of being able to think of the Trinity in this new light Even though I don’t totally agree with what Isaiah was talking about sin.

[@koyo3376]

@@stevenpina1983 Saint Thomas has said: "Therefore, as within the Godhead the way whereby God is in God as the known in the knower, is expressed by what we call Son, who is the Word of God, so the way by which God is in God as the beloved is in the lover is brought out by acknowledging in God a Spirit, who is the love of God. And so, according to the rule of the Catholic Faith, we are directed to believe in the Spirit." I hope this can be edifying and blessing to you.

[@stevenpina1983]

@@koyo3376 sure like I said, my thoughts towards the Trinity have definitely changed throughout these past years becoming more aligned with traditional first fathers way of seeing it. I am sort of surprised to see Isaiah’s (the one in this video not the Bible )POV way of seeing it. Usually we see Ida, I on most things, and with this explanation of his, I don’t know where he was coming from

[@koyo3376]

@@stevenpina1983 I hope you, and Isaiah, continue to pray and meditate on the greatest and most Holy mystery which is our Lord.

[@stevenpina1983]

@@koyo3376 just to be clear , fyi too, Isaiah is the name of Wendigoon,(guy in the video)

[@benh5541]

A thing not really discussed or left out in the episodes is about the time the parts of the bible was written down. Lots of it was oral tradition passed down from generations of generations of people and here is a podcast discussing it like it was fact. Especially the new testament from which the first texts were from 100 years AD. The bible is not the book of god. It's the book of people trying to comprehend their Universe and their texts got passed down to us. Still really invested and will continue to follow the series.

[@peteygonemadarts4765]

I've thought about the WALLS OF JERICHO and think I have figured out the logical answer . Answer is the story is missing some details. Basically all the Racket created by the horns combined with the unrest inside the walls covered up the sound of the bottom of the walls being dismantled . It said ALL the walls came down at once but a very fast moving domino effect might reasonably at that time be described as all at once .

[@Taz_XE076]

23:33 That did not age well

[@TheFirstDeity]

When I hear people talk about hell, or Sheol, or the "down place", I notice that they often take one description and run with it, as if that's the whole thing. I think that's like looking at a Siberian gulag or volcano, and extrapolating all existence on Earth from that little piece. Earth is a big place. Some places suck, and some places are pretty not bad.

[@michaelvukmanic3299]

there's no s on revelation

[@garysnotsowildadventures3045]

I view creation as stages in development. I know God is capable of snapping his fingers and the world existing but I also know God is not a God of deceit and giving a history to the world in natural form that is much longer than what young earthers believe to me makes the young earthers theory deceitful at best.

[@unsane78]

"Let us make man in our image" have you heard how angels are described? Definitely not talking to the Angels 🤪

[@TheWeirdBible]

Angels are a complicated subject with multiple forms taken

[@stevenpina1983]

All those descriptions of spirit creatures are just that symbolic inscriptions. Is there a spirit bodies in their likeness cannot be compared to us . But yes, I agree with you. God is talking to his being which, at least would be the father and the son that we were made in there likeness of. That likeness mainly being that we would be creatures of free will that would be able to choose from right and wrong.

[@Mreffs101]

The Holy Trinity was never difficult for me to understand, especially if we are made in God's image. Humans have a mind, a body, and a spirit/soul. God is the mind, Jesus is the body, and the Holy Spirit is the spirit/soul. People seem to have trouble wrapping their minds around a 3-fold nature of being/existence, rather preferring a dualistic view like good vs evil, dark vs light, death vs life etc. This view, in my opinion, rejects the Holy Spirit in its narrowness. The Holy Spirit is the very aspect of both God and humans that are neither black or white but grey instead. In essence, it is the very aspect that unites all through our shared divinity but also our shared needs as humans. It's something that is sorely lacking in our modern times. There is no grey, no nuance, no humanity, no compassion, no embracing of the Holy Spirit which explains many of the problems in the world today.