The Twisting Case of Lt Joe Gliniewicz

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That Chapter

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Күн бұрын

Lt. Joseph Gliniewicz was an all-American hero cop. Beloved in the community, leader of the explorer program, and had a long list of commendations. As he neared retirement, he went out on a suspicious call and never returned. A massive manhunt began, uncovering no suspects, but a lot about Gliniewicz, who was not the cop people thought he was.
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@187mrsmith
@187mrsmith 2 жыл бұрын
Who else randomly came across this channel 1 day an now can't stop watching his videos!
@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 2 жыл бұрын
Means a lot that youre still here!
@aak8297
@aak8297 2 жыл бұрын
Me, but few years back :D
@187mrsmith
@187mrsmith 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatChapter I appreciate it mate 🙏 👍 🙌 💙 Your story telling is Phenomenal + it relaxes me while engaging my intrest an Curiosity! You always do the story Justice while bringing new light to it!
@CherieTalksTunes
@CherieTalksTunes 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I found his channel the beginning of last year & the binge begin lol 😆
@Amanda-bt1ur
@Amanda-bt1ur 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatChapter I been here since day one of the aluminum alien hat ! Your the best Mike 👌🏽
@pandemonium5557
@pandemonium5557 2 жыл бұрын
Back when I was in High school a girl had a sexual relationship with our school cop. He was very loved in the community and his WIFE and children were well known, they always were involved with the community. He was busted having relations with her in school and of course he was fired as a cop, divorced but people had a hard time believing he was a bad person. It still amazes me.
@shitneyb5562
@shitneyb5562 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like every male gym teacher ever
@Tracy-hm3yi
@Tracy-hm3yi 2 жыл бұрын
@@shitneyb5562 ours was the football coach/math teacher 😂
@dorsebradford9844
@dorsebradford9844 2 жыл бұрын
I had a pastor that was apart of naacp and he didn’t work his wife was a nurse and his son is autistic. He was having all kinds of Adair’s but one of girls in the church called him out during one of his services and people still gave him money after his wife divorced him he still was getting donations even though he was never religious he just used the church
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorsebradford9844 What a scene that must have been. Like watching a soap.
@paddlefaster
@paddlefaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@shitneyb5562 I was just going to say that. Mr MacLean at my high school had quite the thing for young girls. Sick bastard
@nancybeveridgetaylor3256
@nancybeveridgetaylor3256 2 жыл бұрын
Having worked max sec, there are deeply corrupt people working in both corrections and police. One of my brothers was a cop, he has stories, he transferred after 10 years as cop he went back to school and became a meteorologist. He is much happier now, reporting weather for a local airport/community.
@lorieaton2487
@lorieaton2487 Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing🥰
@Ze_Moose
@Ze_Moose Жыл бұрын
Talk about a "shift in wind." 😂
@Adam-ox6zy
@Adam-ox6zy Жыл бұрын
My brother was a cop in a small town in south Australia, and he had a run in with a colleague because his colleague was up to no good, but my brother got pushed out of the Dept and town. Turns out that that cop was a peado! He was protected by the dept and town, and my brother was scape goated. Let the force after a few more years.
@seancompton5393
@seancompton5393 10 ай бұрын
Lesson be careful who you put on a pedestal
@hootax8980
@hootax8980 7 ай бұрын
Now he'll find out about corruption in the weather department
@TheCurlyclub
@TheCurlyclub 2 жыл бұрын
Joe’s wife Melodie was recently sentenced to 24 months probation. She still maintains her innocence in-spite of evidence to the contrary.
@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306
@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 Жыл бұрын
@@williamsullivan3967 It wasn't one of Trumps.
@spazzypengin
@spazzypengin Жыл бұрын
@@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 Rent free
@celebrity292
@celebrity292 10 ай бұрын
Even better if she took a deal. I'm not guilty but I took a plea.
@eldo7304
@eldo7304 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the explorers came out to say that the way he was found, including the pursuit of 3 men, was almost identical to a scenario they had practiced as part of their training. Another great video, Mike!
@Meekmillan
@Meekmillan 2 жыл бұрын
lul
@KaladinVegapunk
@KaladinVegapunk 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really confused.. he already posted this a few weeks ago..? Corrupt cop, fakes death, GI Joe. He already covered this story, why is it reposted haha? Im not familiar with the case at all but remember the episode, comes out hes corrupt, defaced signs, etc etc It's tripping me out, if he had to repost I don't think he'd do it on the release day I don't watch other true crime channels either
@kimmoran4437
@kimmoran4437 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaladinVegapunk Maybe you saw it on his Patreon? I didn't see it here recently.
@Todesschleicher
@Todesschleicher 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaladinVegapunk maybe he screwed up his schedule, released it and deleted it?
@kevinouellette5316
@kevinouellette5316 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaladinVegapunk I don't see the video you're talking about on his KZbin channel. You use his Patreon?
@josephfoster1583
@josephfoster1583 2 жыл бұрын
You can just listen to this without watching because Mike is so animated. What an amazing job!
@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 2 жыл бұрын
Means a lot to hear that Joseph, thank you!
@goochmcduck4285
@goochmcduck4285 2 жыл бұрын
And you already know what kind of shirt Mike will be wearing
@Professionalasshole
@Professionalasshole 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatChapter Mike, I have to admit, you are one VERY handsome man! Your eye's, sense of humor and the way you tell a story is great! I hope you have a lucky lady! 😍
@earthwormman9814
@earthwormman9814 2 жыл бұрын
I usually only listen videos first time. Then later i have still new video to see. And i enjoy both times.
@b4ubcomeold
@b4ubcomeold 2 жыл бұрын
TRuth! I've tried! I'm always afraid I'll miss the Insurance Dance and I will beat down a door, knock over a baby and an old lady to be sure and see the ending..... *BECAUSE I LOVE YA* . *"Wink, Mike Out!"*
@l0-r3z43
@l0-r3z43 2 жыл бұрын
The suspects were never found, because those "tree men" were hiding in the forest.
@karmakameleon113
@karmakameleon113 2 жыл бұрын
You couldn't resist, could you? 😆😆 I just had a proper belly laugh, thanks!
@coryjohnson2486
@coryjohnson2486 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@wolverine9632
@wolverine9632 2 жыл бұрын
Hiding in plain sight, the toughest hiding spot.
@phantom0456
@phantom0456 2 жыл бұрын
Only Mike knows or is able to tell us, the general public, about the “tree men.”
@berrygyrl4134
@berrygyrl4134 2 жыл бұрын
Well played friend, well played 👏
@darienbrewer8317
@darienbrewer8317 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that stands out to me the most is the fact that he was able to rise through the ranks with his tainted background. It shouldn't have been possible when they were putting all of those terrible details into his employee file. Then the agency makes him out to be a hero (lying to the public) initially so that they can just tear down his character later to save face? That's very odd behavior. This man was never supposed to obtain the rank of lieutenant. I wouldn't be surprised if his department knew what he was doing all along and turned a blind eye to it because of his long service with the department.
@hitleractually8180
@hitleractually8180 2 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised. My old department had a guy who was sexually harassing just about every female employee in the department. He was sending them dick pics, saying foul things to them on the sly. Guy was a real scumbag. He was boys with some of the higher ups, so they kept promoting him and promoting him all the way to Lt. Finally, he groped one of his female officers by her vagina and she reported the incident. He was suspended, terminated, and criminally charged. The department acted like they didn't know he had been doing this shit for years, even though he had been suspended in past for doing the same shit. The real reason they fired him and took such a hard stance this particular time was, a few of the female employees who had been harassed/assaulted by this guy and reported it to no end, banded together and sued the department. They won a multi-million dollar suit. To mitigate the damages, I believe the department fired him so it looked better for them in the impending suit. They lost their ass anyway. This stuff happens at EVERY department.
@piratemousie
@piratemousie Жыл бұрын
It said the chief was in on it, thats why they all wrote the letter to the mayor. Also, I noticed the guy talking about the betrayal of the department ect was an Interim Chief, which happens when someone is quickly kicked out of a job, most probably with a quiet golden handshake to keep all the rest of the corruption quite, draw a line in the sand ect, get a new young face in, then have elections or whatever. I dunno if chiefs are elected like sheriffs are, but yeah, something like that.
@rogerszmodis
@rogerszmodis Жыл бұрын
Was this video the first time you found out all cops are corrupt sacks of shit?
@nonnyena4267
@nonnyena4267 Жыл бұрын
Its interesting to me how many LEO-types refer to these _"few bad apples."_ Just totally ignoring the *warning* part of the axiom, which makes up _most_ of it: _"A few bad apples _*_will spoil the whole barrel."_*
@welcometothemovies9157
@welcometothemovies9157 11 ай бұрын
Not just the department. The mayor too
@sararomero7090
@sararomero7090 2 жыл бұрын
At first I felt sorry for his wife, thinking she was in denial and didn’t want to believe her husband was a scumbag. Then it turns out she was in on the whole thing…. 🙄
@jerryawesom5928
@jerryawesom5928 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Honey. Please don't text me about crime. See you tonight and we can talk.
@bakeddulce5451
@bakeddulce5451 2 жыл бұрын
generation why did an episode about him, they went into a little more detail about how crazy he was. How he planned out for the wife to get a pay out from his death. How other cops knew he wanted the supervisor dead because he ranted to a lot of ppl. Of course, nothing was done.
@JohnDoe-gy5dr
@JohnDoe-gy5dr 2 жыл бұрын
She married a cop. What do you expect?
@annihilatedbutcomingback1119
@annihilatedbutcomingback1119 2 жыл бұрын
Thought the same too, wonder of she knew he was going to off himself and stage it 🤔🤔
@andyanderson5637
@andyanderson5637 2 жыл бұрын
If your married to a crooked cop your either in on it or buried in the woods if he thinks your leaving.
@mazzymae1009
@mazzymae1009 2 жыл бұрын
So grateful I've never had that burning want for money and I don't envy those who do. Thanks for another great story, Mike.
@poppaganja3793
@poppaganja3793 2 жыл бұрын
"Jews"
@SupremeCommanderBaiser
@SupremeCommanderBaiser 2 жыл бұрын
@@poppaganja3793 MLM scamers.
@ImpossibleMusic69
@ImpossibleMusic69 2 жыл бұрын
@@poppaganja3793 get help man. Whole lots of nasty things you can say about any race. This is a tragic story, not the time or place. Get help and meds
@Tracymmo
@Tracymmo 2 жыл бұрын
@@poppaganja3793 Didn't you just get arrested in Texas?
@poppaganja3793
@poppaganja3793 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpossibleMusic69 i didn't say nothing racist might wana go back and read my comment and I didn't disrespect Noone or no race
@gamebred5662
@gamebred5662 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda like the cop in my small town. Everyone loved him, until young girls started coming forward that he was inappropriately texting them and even molesting and blackmailing them. He was so loved that his ex wife was literally run out of town when she came out before all the allegations saying he was child predator and not someone who should be a police officer. He resigned an is now a cop in the next town over, but is under multiple investigations and an the truth is starting to come out more an more.
@BalboaBaggins
@BalboaBaggins 2 жыл бұрын
Women having terrible taste in men, what else is new.
@lauriewilson4741
@lauriewilson4741 2 жыл бұрын
Hope he’s not preying on children.
@cvgodd1432
@cvgodd1432 2 жыл бұрын
I know about a cop who sold OC 80s in a high school he worked in. All he got was a promotion in the next town lol. It was a complete joke! This city is known to be corrupt though, especially the police department. I actually got beat up in the same city by some roid head cop. I was like 18 and skinny af while cuffed and he’s hitting me for no reason. Idk why the FBI hasn’t shut them down.
@greywolf2270
@greywolf2270 3 ай бұрын
As a retired Soldier, I instantly recognized ‘GI Jokes’ D-bag signature moves, like wearing his veteran status as a badge of honor; donning ACUs during training exercises ; wearing Airborne and Air Assault badges on civilianized ACU uniform; ‘Ranger rolling’ patrol cap; Air Assault tattoo. What a joke…
@cjb2749
@cjb2749 2 жыл бұрын
The real tragedy is that he had kids in that small community who were left to face the backlash and the judgement while coping with the loss of their father
@boogityhoo7452
@boogityhoo7452 2 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't have to deal with any backlash as they were not involved, excluding the one who was asked to loan his father money to pay back what he stole but even still he might not have legitimately known what was going on. Sadly ppl don't care about any of that, if they are related then they are responsible in so many ppls screwed up way of thinking.
@lizh4933
@lizh4933 2 жыл бұрын
One of his kids was apparently a dollar sucker. Daddy even arranged a marriage for him so he could collect married officers pay while in the army. There is a great podcast on this whole mess. Hunt it down.
@mikemo1993
@mikemo1993 2 жыл бұрын
@@boogityhoo7452 you’re right, they weren’t responsible for partaking in his shady behavior. But they benefitted from it, directly or indirectly in some ways - and, worse, just by being related to the scumbag means they would be viewed in a negative way. Especially in a small-town, the mob-mentally would be easy to go along with and just shame the whole family. Sad to know the biggest victims of his scandal are the ones closest to him.
@bresams2917
@bresams2917 2 жыл бұрын
Right! What a COWARD! I'd rather Man Up about my mistakes than leave my kid's out here to face consequences like Bullying! Smh
@mik55tv22
@mik55tv22 2 жыл бұрын
They were in on it and enjoying the stolen money
@rhapsody98
@rhapsody98 2 жыл бұрын
As the daughter of a cop, and former dispatcher, I was completely unsurprised that he wasn't the good upstanding member of the community that he seemed to be. But threatening to murder a dispatcher is beyond what I was expecting.
@bresams2917
@bresams2917 2 жыл бұрын
👀 please tell us More My dear ☕
@fokinmohena
@fokinmohena 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you got stories… do tell :) same shit different day with corruption in the police force. The whole system is fucked
@dtfonmyballs8752
@dtfonmyballs8752 2 жыл бұрын
City administrator
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 2 жыл бұрын
I’m also the daughter of a retired cop and a former dispatcher!
@rochellenowik9875
@rochellenowik9875 2 жыл бұрын
As a former dispatcher I am not at all surprised by the behavior of law enforcement. It is a very fine line between crook and cop...too many temptations with so much ego. Many are just so proud of themselves to be able to carry a gun and boss people around.
@Conkinhonker
@Conkinhonker 2 жыл бұрын
This was in my hometown, it was such a crazy case and a shock to us all. Love to see you covering this!
@morticiax540
@morticiax540 2 жыл бұрын
omg same hometown
@julezmmm
@julezmmm 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just a few towns from you guys too. Remember how much chaos this brought?
@ChicagosSinfulSwede
@ChicagosSinfulSwede 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was a crazy wild story, I remember all of the extensive news coverage from this and always wondered what happened with his wife. Turns out to be nothing thusfar...what I do know is that we live in one of thee most corrupt States in the Nation - so there's that. I've been trying to get behind the badge but sometimes feel like wtf for..way to many stories n horrific crimes commited by the boys in blue that are actually far worse than what they 'harass' an average civilian for. The same ones that pull people over for going 5 over the limit, are the exact same ones that are doing all sorts of sinister shiitt in the dark. Can't trust a dam soul nowadays...not a single one.
@BB-pg5kl
@BB-pg5kl 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChicagosSinfulSwede you're talking about such a small percentage. I'd be more focused on all the shootings, murders, and violent carjackings plaguing Chicagoland area right now. Kim Foxx and the other libs with their catch and release program of violent criminals is pathetic.
@creationsmisfit
@creationsmisfit 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Go Bulldogs
@lapetitemoma
@lapetitemoma Жыл бұрын
This guy is a model for my ex-husband. Only he was a serial rapist. Everyone loved him but a few new him for who he really was. By the way he was a massage therapist, but before he was going to be charged for sexual assault he conveniently died accidently with a shot gun to the face. The woman who was gonna press charges had a nervous breakdown, cause she told him she had taped the session she had with him that day. I had divorced him 10 years earlier. Karma has a way of biting you in the butt.
@QueenOfTheNorth65
@QueenOfTheNorth65 2 жыл бұрын
I live about an hour away from where this happened. Trust me; you’ve never seen anyone go from HERO to ZERO so fast! The people who initially mourned his “murder” were furious to learn that they had been duped. Great job as usual, Mike! ❤️
@lizh4933
@lizh4933 2 жыл бұрын
Betrayal of trust in any situation is very painful.
@GingerPlease
@GingerPlease 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I grew up where he was born and live like 20 minutes away from Fox Lake and yeah seeing all the responses from the community and how shaken everyone was... it was wild
@pelicanine
@pelicanine 2 жыл бұрын
I would be too! I can't imagine how his wife felt through this, I feel so awful for her
@cherijoseph7819
@cherijoseph7819 2 жыл бұрын
@@pelicanine Why? She knew.
@pelicanine
@pelicanine 2 жыл бұрын
@@cherijoseph7819 oh, I don't know, maybe because her husband of 26yrs is dead regardless of how?
@j.m.5744
@j.m.5744 2 жыл бұрын
I was a cop for 8 years in a major city. When Mike first described the scenario my first thought was this is a suicide.
@aprilpuglia7967
@aprilpuglia7967 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say that you are VERY handsome!
@xaviercristina
@xaviercristina 2 жыл бұрын
I was very surprised, and understood why everybody in the city thought it was a homicide without knowing about his corrupted side. What a waste of time and money!
@jsteiner93
@jsteiner93 2 жыл бұрын
you really don't have to be a cop to know that something wasn't right here; it was pretty clear from the beginning lmao
@charleslennonbaker
@charleslennonbaker 6 ай бұрын
I thought cowardice.
@kelseykerby4506
@kelseykerby4506 6 ай бұрын
🥓🐖
@nicwelch
@nicwelch 2 жыл бұрын
This is why it is so important for the truly good cops to call out the bad ones.
@pippadawg7037
@pippadawg7037 8 ай бұрын
Wait, people in authority can fake crimes and incidents? Why, if they can do that, they can scare us sheep into wars, bad laws, and just about anything else.
@holographer
@holographer 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to bring special attention to the complaint that alleges that the officer "somehow obtained control over a certificate for a free tattoo that was donated to the department" and then, while on duty, went and got tatted up. Truly Michael Scott levels of workplace misconduct!
@boogityhoo7452
@boogityhoo7452 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the fa t he stole thousands of dollars meant to teach young kids how to be a police officer and so forth is a bit more messed up than just stealing a free tattoo gift.
@OfficialDjTalksick
@OfficialDjTalksick 2 жыл бұрын
@@boogityhoo7452 you’re not wrong but just shows how dumb and low a person would go do the original comment is still relevant
@cw2497
@cw2497 2 жыл бұрын
And I'm sure everyone turned a blind eye and gave him an excuse.
@phoenixdavida8987
@phoenixdavida8987 2 жыл бұрын
😂 so ridiculous! ahhh
@bobdobalina2931
@bobdobalina2931 2 жыл бұрын
His family was probably due a big payout if he was killed in the line of duty, which may have influenced him in staging a crime scene. Excellent video as always, many thanks.
@tosspot1305
@tosspot1305 2 жыл бұрын
This is extremely plausible
@McSnezzly
@McSnezzly 2 жыл бұрын
Yepp and the other shitty cops helped cover up for a brother in blue
@creationsmisfit
@creationsmisfit 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly it. And nearly everyone in town had a huge fundraiser for her after he died as well. So much money raised and just handed over to her.
@raeraesmellers
@raeraesmellers 2 жыл бұрын
And if he was removed from the post due to fraud, his family might not have had his pension or survivors benefits, so he faked it
@tonypeppermint5329
@tonypeppermint5329 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@SoullessGinger1313
@SoullessGinger1313 2 жыл бұрын
The new village administrator is trying to control (or administrate) everything in the village (the government funded programs at least, including the police Explorers) because that's her job. He's talking about framing her for felonies for doing her job.
@bsqwahlE
@bsqwahlE 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, turns out Joe was a horrible person, with an equally awful wife. Hopefully the Admin will look into how much the fake manhunt cost.
@dianesaienni5466
@dianesaienni5466 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable!! After that memo he should have been at the least put on unpaid leave until being fired. Got to wonder did his wife get his pension...or hum...life insurance?
@uninteresting-content-dump
@uninteresting-content-dump 2 жыл бұрын
thanks cpt Obvious.
@PFBM86
@PFBM86 2 жыл бұрын
I just can't believe that a police officer would do such a thing !!!!!
@farhan007
@farhan007 2 жыл бұрын
@@PFBM86 They would never!
@nmartin5551
@nmartin5551 2 жыл бұрын
I really question how many of his fellow police officers didn’t know the dirty underbelly. It’s sadly not as rare as we’d like to believe.
@claesvwbus3701
@claesvwbus3701 2 жыл бұрын
“good” people are secretly doing bad things. Nothing new under the sun. I would love Mike to cover the case of the swedish "kapten klänning" (captain dress) one of Sweden's highest ranked police officers who kept a dark, violent secret. Police chief Göran Lindberg liked the nickname "Captain dress", which he had been given for his work in championing gender equality in the police force. But he also led a secret life which led to his conviction in 2010 for aggravated rape, assault, buying sex and procuring young girls for other sex buyers. It was a paradox that he was one of Sweden's highest ranking police officer with a profile in gender issues and strong moral and ethical values and on the other side he had this interest in young girls, sadism and violent sex. They arrested Göran Lindberg (68 yo) in January 2010 as he was on his way to meet a 14-year- old girl complete with his black bag full of bdsm sex toys.
@sabrimo4020
@sabrimo4020 2 жыл бұрын
I second that. People, please like this comment so Mike can Cover it.
@mik55tv22
@mik55tv22 2 жыл бұрын
Good people dont do shi# like this good people dont steal tons of money from the community tax payer money and try to hire hit men to kill innocent people just cover their horrible deeds i dont think you understand what "good" means my friend ....yeah good people do little bad things but not horrible disgusting things we call those "bad" people ya know
@corinnelsmith
@corinnelsmith 2 жыл бұрын
What!? That’s insane! I would love to hear mike cover this. Only thing I think is an issue, is that Mike normally covers murder, not necessarily just brutal crimes…. Everything I looked up on Goran Linberg was in Swedish or Norwegian or Sami. The case is super interesting!
@H_A_L_7
@H_A_L_7 2 жыл бұрын
Huh True life stranger than fiction…not. Just be alert to the red flags
@H_A_L_7
@H_A_L_7 2 жыл бұрын
@Kohai Huh 🤔
@pylbetajv
@pylbetajv 2 жыл бұрын
At least he ended up only taking his own life rather than the town administrator's.
@ContactsNfilters
@ContactsNfilters 2 жыл бұрын
And/or the dispatcher.
@shelbyfoley5936
@shelbyfoley5936 2 жыл бұрын
i love your vids, you put so much effort & love into them, we appreciate you more than you know :)
@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 2 жыл бұрын
Means the world to hear that!
@erinthesystem9608
@erinthesystem9608 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mike, for sharing some of the document listing matters of complaint against "Lt. Joe": The apparent theft or misuse of a tattoo certificate which had been gifted to the department, redeemed by Gliniewicz while on duty, with the time being somehow billed as part of the Explorer program (if I understood that part correctly), certainly was a colorful bundle of misconduct! That incident itself was worth the pausing it took me to read those individual items.
@Redrum101896
@Redrum101896 2 жыл бұрын
I did the Explorer program in New York when I was a teen. I am in my 40's now. The detective that was supposed to be our leader used us to cover for his many affairs. Even his own daughter (she was in the program and he was married to her mother during that time period.). He used the program's money to buy gifts for his many girlfriends. I got to see how dirty cops could be and I ended up quitting after 3 years. The boys in the program started to behave like him. There was a lot of sexual harassment. With that being said there are some really good cops out there, but I saw way too many being horrible and hiding behind the badge. I gave up my dream of being a police officer after that. I respect the good ones, but the horrible ones are trash.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 2 жыл бұрын
If the good ones stay silent when they know what the bad ones are doing they are just as bad.
@nothingleft2lose-
@nothingleft2lose- 2 жыл бұрын
Pp OO
@tundevirag755
@tundevirag755 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! What do you do now for a living? I wish the police force would be less corrupt :(
@shaemas1537
@shaemas1537 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I live in NW lower Michigan between Elk and Torch lakes. I read your comment. Sad that the bad ones brought your dream to an end. Hope you are well
@charlieevergreen3514
@charlieevergreen3514 2 жыл бұрын
“The boys in the program started behaving like him.” Oh, man. That’s the worst. It’s the way this stuff keeps being perpetuated and hidden. We are all driven by both good and bad motivations, and we can’t expect anything to get better if the bad motives go unchecked and even encouraged. Just mentioning this helps, Mari Mar, because today, someone might double-check their own Explorer program, or Scout troop, or whatever.
@gtw4546
@gtw4546 2 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for all the kids that went through that Explorers program. It really plays with your mind when someone you like/respect turns out to be someone you shouldn't trust. It's especially hard when it happens in your formative years.
@agoo7581
@agoo7581 2 жыл бұрын
And the parents putting their kids through the explorers program are abusers for sending them through cop indoctrination school.
@travisgartside409
@travisgartside409 2 жыл бұрын
Never meet your heroes!
@scotsman6712
@scotsman6712 2 жыл бұрын
@@agoo7581 dumbest comment today! you win!!
@Tracymmo
@Tracymmo 2 жыл бұрын
@@scotsman6712 Dumbest comment? Did you not see that footage? Thst wasn't teaching kids to be LEOs, it was GI Joe teaching kids to play war games with equipment from the DOD surplus program. What they were being taught was in no was appropriate for kids, or for policing a village of 10,000 people.
@hateexmachina
@hateexmachina 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tracymmo This. My first thoughts seeing that training footage was that it looked more like some kind of backyard militia training, kids in combat fatigues waving AR-15's around and yelling. It's kind of scary to think that's the impression of police work they were presenting to impressionable kids.
@longlivethesheet4561
@longlivethesheet4561 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I remember this guy. I was in high school when this went down, and we were warned against walking alone on the sidewalk back home before the actual truth behind his death was revealed
@ironox8480
@ironox8480 2 жыл бұрын
Grant?
@ChiTwnLink
@ChiTwnLink 2 жыл бұрын
I totally remember when this happened. It was all over the news for a long time. When the truth came out about him, it really turned things upside down. I love when Mike does stories close to home. Man, I’m hooked on this channel. Thanks Mike!! Much love from Chicago
@truesoulghost2777
@truesoulghost2777 2 жыл бұрын
Whoop whoop
@alisong2328
@alisong2328 7 ай бұрын
I also live in the Chicago area, but I don't really remember this murder. Maybe that's because there are so many murders in Chicago.
@rhondaturner2254
@rhondaturner2254 2 жыл бұрын
You have absolutely RUINED me for the boring monotony of the everyday storyteller. THANK YOU Mike, take care!
@maycasper2661
@maycasper2661 2 жыл бұрын
It honestly never gets better either.
@icaanul
@icaanul 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Ballen is the master of "story telling" but to call this channel "story telling" is not really accurate. This has some details told but for the most part it is reading a laundry list of facts.
@999tj6
@999tj6 2 жыл бұрын
@@icaanul Mikes came a long way from where he started, in a rather short period of time as well. They both have their own styles, but we love them both equally. 🤘🏻
@deniscarroll8558
@deniscarroll8558 2 жыл бұрын
Word! Between the robots, ppl with speech impediments (not shaming it’s just a weird choice), folks w/Scottish accents who drag every last word of a sentence etc Mike is a breath of fresh air
@rudolphsteiner6797
@rudolphsteiner6797 2 жыл бұрын
@@icaanul He is good at presenting facts in an entertaining and engaging way.
@cuppabeetea7301
@cuppabeetea7301 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this case very well. An older friend of mine (I'll call her Ethel), who was as 82 or 83 at the time, said after only about five minutes of watching the live news coverage while we talked, she knew something was off. Ethel immediately said, "Something isn't right. Mark my word. There is going to be a weird twist." I guess if we all live that long, well have Spidey senses, too, like Ethel!
@MikeMichaels1987
@MikeMichaels1987 2 жыл бұрын
maybe they got rid of him, clean up his mess
@tintinismybelgian
@tintinismybelgian 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeMichaels1987 Can you elaborate on this theory?
@047Kenny
@047Kenny 2 жыл бұрын
My parents said 2 days after the case this suicide because the coverage was national one day, and seemingly swept under the rug the next
@bulldogmomx2901
@bulldogmomx2901 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Mike was going to tell us that Lt. Dan liked little boys or liked to dress in women’s lingerie! 👿
@thnksno
@thnksno 2 жыл бұрын
I never lived in Fox Lake, but I'm from the area. I too knew it was BS from the get go. This was compounded by the media coverage nationally and locally. I wasn't shocked when the truth started seeping out.
@ofskittlez
@ofskittlez 2 жыл бұрын
Roses are red, Violets are blue, Mike dropped a video, Let's give it a goo.
@ZiggySaySwagTwoTime
@ZiggySaySwagTwoTime 2 жыл бұрын
I’m literally going through the toughest time in my life. And let me say, Mike, you are amazing. Your show brings me a sense of calm and reality. Not saying in no way shape or form that murder makes me calm but your voice and editing skills are on 1000000000. Thank you for calming me on a daily basis.
@nancybeveridgetaylor3256
@nancybeveridgetaylor3256 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, bless you, life can be difficult sometimes. I hope things improve.
@PolySpikeAndWave
@PolySpikeAndWave 2 жыл бұрын
I hope things get better for you 🤗
@darrickmalloy6909
@darrickmalloy6909 2 жыл бұрын
Keep praying. You can do it I know you can.
@mongolikechewchew2475
@mongolikechewchew2475 2 жыл бұрын
Keep your head up! Don't hold things inside,talk to those you trust in your family or friends! Talk to a Priest or a cop or some stranger! There's help out there! God Bless you!
@EZ-D-FIANT
@EZ-D-FIANT 2 жыл бұрын
I've lost a son, a mum, a business, my health and my last two friends in the last two years alone. I watched my dad died Infront of me at 12 and ran away from my mum at 15, I'm 36 now and it's been painful, I want to die so much, I'm psychotic and constantly self harming but that's just to feel, I can't die as much as life is painful because their are people it would hurt and I simply can't hurt another after the pain I've felt, so I push on and suffer silently! I think of the Jews or the woman in Harlem or any other persecuted person in history and feel like maybe I haven't got it so bad, I try to anyway, I hope that helps dilute your pain........
@MilesWilliams88
@MilesWilliams88 2 жыл бұрын
Mike my dude, would you look into doing a video on Michael Schallert? He committed a double murder in West Frankfort Illinois in 2009. My sister actually dated him for a brief time about 5 years before that. He was at my house many times. He was honestly always a super nice guy when I knew him, but apparently he got addicted to meth after that, and killed two women. He ran to Colorado where they eventually caught him. It's an interesting case.
@laurapalmer2126
@laurapalmer2126 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the way this is titled “The Twisted Case” and I STILL didn’t see that twist coming. Excellent storytelling as always!
@Bassmasterwitacaster
@Bassmasterwitacaster 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see your heart
@YoungBrada
@YoungBrada 2 жыл бұрын
Lt. Crackhead
@tommymorgan4677
@tommymorgan4677 2 жыл бұрын
I think it`s hard to miss.
@xfatalxflawx
@xfatalxflawx 2 жыл бұрын
It's as obvious as it gets, by a long shot. It's an age old story told so many times that I'm surprised when a police officer isn't a a criminal, liar, and general scumbag.
@johnnyblazem5326
@johnnyblazem5326 2 жыл бұрын
my dead and blind grandma seen the "twist" coming
@cackalackaboi9737
@cackalackaboi9737 2 жыл бұрын
Damn , forgot what day it was. Let’s give it a gooo, now that I know. Cheers to you Mike and to all my That Chapter brethren!!!
@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@elvisneedsboats3714
@elvisneedsboats3714 2 жыл бұрын
I lived not too far away when this happened. Although they did not publicly say it at the beginning, there were hints/rumors coming out that it was suicide. Also, it seems like Joe may have seen 2 dudes in the area and he described them to dispatch. As soon as they located and cleared those 2, the public skepticism (outside of Fox Lake) grew. Wonder why he didn’t just make something up instead of using real, although innocent, people. Lucky for those two they were apparently believable but I bet they were really scared for a while.
@jamesgilbert124
@jamesgilbert124 2 жыл бұрын
On the list of Red Flags about this guy, that Thin Blue Line punisher skull profile picture is right up there at the top.
@Wylde483
@Wylde483 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, soon as I saw it I got suspicious
@lazymansload520
@lazymansload520 22 күн бұрын
It screams “I like to pretend I’m a badass!”
@lolaspratt5860
@lolaspratt5860 2 жыл бұрын
I hate Tuesdays way more than Mondays for some reason but Mike makes it all better. Excited to see a new video and see all the Chapterites (what name do we have?) here. Happy Tuesday everybody!
@ahoweO7
@ahoweO7 2 жыл бұрын
Lol that's how I feel after a long Monday and Bailey Sarian uploads
@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@offwitmelkychrms
@offwitmelkychrms 2 жыл бұрын
Chapteerians🤣
@goodstuff4430
@goodstuff4430 2 жыл бұрын
We're the Chappies.
@badascan8910
@badascan8910 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Mike is so cool nobody ever comments on the case.
@winchestertonfieldville8973
@winchestertonfieldville8973 2 жыл бұрын
Astounding that he committed suicide with his sidearm, yet they didn’t find it immediately. Did they not test for gunshot residue on his hands? They needed to conduct a heroic, bogus investigation because they blew it in the first 15 minutes of discovering his body. Pffft.
@fokinmohena
@fokinmohena 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think it was moreso for the reasons mike listed: the cops knew they were gonna get overtime pay, and they might’ve also potentially been waiting to plant the gun on someone to frame them too but decided not to. Big surprise that the piece of shit had piece of shit colleagues too
@verofarias46
@verofarias46 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same as I continued to watch the video. I'm going to rewind to re.listen about the gun not being found immediately. How can one shoot himself and throw (or place) the gun a distance from the body? Where was the "lethal" shot on his body?
@BleedForTheWorld
@BleedForTheWorld 2 жыл бұрын
What? Did you even watch the end of the video? That's not what was described.
@Robert-pz4wg
@Robert-pz4wg 2 жыл бұрын
@@fokinmohena Also the public wouldn’t have accepted the suicide explanation without a manhunt
@65cj55
@65cj55 2 жыл бұрын
They don't test for residue etc on the scene, these things are done at a Lab etc, so even if they were suspicious, they still had take it serious..
@myth2005
@myth2005 2 жыл бұрын
Melodie Gliniewicz, the widow of disgraced Fox Lake Police Lt. Joe Gliniewicz, was sentenced to 18 to 24 months' probation Tuesday after pleading guilty in February to a felony charge of deceptive practices, connected to her late husband's financial misdeeds, avoiding a trial on more serious charges.
@Stichting_NoFa-p
@Stichting_NoFa-p 2 жыл бұрын
Make a video about Case of Robert Leeming
@briankennedy7040
@briankennedy7040 2 жыл бұрын
I live in the town next to fox lake . This guy GI Joe used to be found drunk passed out in his camo truck .....all the time
@SarahSmith-mu1wc
@SarahSmith-mu1wc 2 жыл бұрын
"Was he though???" 😂😂😂😂 You always know someone's been bamboozled whenever Mike utters these words. 😉
@elizabethgmedina1979
@elizabethgmedina1979 Жыл бұрын
I had to watch this!! I live in lakemoor right next to Fox lake and the police searched my backyard the night the the 3 "killers". But my husband and I called it immediately. The whole thing was so suspicious.
@missssophisicated6742
@missssophisicated6742 Жыл бұрын
What made u guys so suspicious?
@StlScarlett
@StlScarlett 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had something clever to say…. But I’ll just say, you’re the best Mike!
@shakyelarnold7392
@shakyelarnold7392 2 жыл бұрын
I just love how its Blue Lives Matter until the cops come out with the truth that contradicts their fantasy 🤣🤣🤣
@creationsmisfit
@creationsmisfit 2 жыл бұрын
This is my hometown where I grew up. Most of my family is still there. I knew Joe because he was in our high school all the time in the late 90's and was so good to so many kids. Really helped some of my friends out with drug issues and abusive homes. We were just shocked when all of this happened. It was devastating and scary and then became unthinkable when the real details came out. Never know what the hell is going on behind closed doors. I can't believe you're covering this! Love your channel and was shocked to see this one on here today.
@Professor_GonZo
@Professor_GonZo 2 жыл бұрын
Was he doing the explorers then? I don't remember ever seeing him. Becmer, oh yeah. I never bothered to learn the short, round replacement's name.
@creationsmisfit
@creationsmisfit 2 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_GonZo I'm not sure if he did the Explorer's program then. I just remember him at the school and around town. He would let some things slide when kids were just being kids and helped a friend of mine get a safe place to stay when he was being abused at home. And yeah Becmer was there at least a couple of my years as well. 93-97
@BobbieSmith46
@BobbieSmith46 2 жыл бұрын
@@creationsmisfit I am not sure where I heard this quote but it helped me reconcile confused feelings for people I have known. Good men can do bad things and bad men can do good things. How can you decide what someone is? As humans we are not one dimensional and therefore not just one way for our personality. I hope that this makes sense to you.
@Man_fay_the_Bru
@Man_fay_the_Bru 2 жыл бұрын
@@BobbieSmith46 if he was willing to frame people he was a piece of shit& DEFINITELY a bad man.
@BobbieSmith46
@BobbieSmith46 2 жыл бұрын
@@Man_fay_the_Bru I am not going to disagree with you as I agree with you, BUT in my experience it can be confusing if you are trying to look at it in a black or white aspect and pass judgement while trying to figure out how you feel about a person. Just because someone does bad things doesn't mean everything they do is bad. I found it very challenging when I knew what evil someone had done, but I had only ever seen a good side of them, so I wanted to loathe them but I couldn't and then felt bad because I still liked them.
@jacobburnette7008
@jacobburnette7008 Жыл бұрын
I actually live very close to Fox Lake, and remember when this was going on. I worked at a convenient store at the time when Joe was found dead, and I remember when every cop that stopped by on their way to join the manhunt to find his "murderers." Everyone in the area found his death suspicious and it was wild when the truth unfolded. It's crazy knowing things happened like that so close to home
@MarieB21
@MarieB21 2 жыл бұрын
Got some bad news today and I’m still trying to process things. Thanks for the distraction, Mike. I appreciate your regular upload schedule to take things off my anxious mind.
@renee1961
@renee1961 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you got bad news. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@monekebrown7504
@monekebrown7504 2 жыл бұрын
Praying for you and your family
@Professionalasshole
@Professionalasshole 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear that. I hope the coming day's will be brighter! ❤
@michaels7325
@michaels7325 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously not bad enough to keep private. Trolling for sympathy online?
@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you’re doing ok Marie!!
@KittieKatGrl
@KittieKatGrl 2 жыл бұрын
No fucking way!!! This is from my hometown, I remember this story so well from when I was in highschool!! My friends & I were all nervous walking around town when we thought there were people on the run who shot him before we found out the truth! I thought about suggesting this one, nice job! I can't wait to watch this video!
@dougalexander7204
@dougalexander7204 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Mike and relevant to what’s going on in the States. So many people believe in something without weighing or trusting the facts. I have much respect for the village administrator Anne Marrin for doing her job.
@lopiklop
@lopiklop 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider is just how little it takes to convince someone that another is righteous. Simply because they wear a fancy uniform.
@specificgravity-thedancing9700
@specificgravity-thedancing9700 2 жыл бұрын
Be scary to have a legit cop out there that wants to get you.
@lopiklop
@lopiklop 2 жыл бұрын
@@specificgravity-thedancing9700 have you heard of the lapd police gang initiation killings? They do it. That sentence alone makes me sick.
@cynthiajelsema968
@cynthiajelsema968 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of investigation discovery and forensic files. I remember this story and a couple more I've watched of Mike's. What I like about Mike, is he explains these cases in half of the time the networks do. Because they are busy looking for actors to play G. I. Joe. Plus Mike puts his own spin on it!
@BlueAmerican26
@BlueAmerican26 2 жыл бұрын
Better audits need to happen. It happens in other fields of work all the time.
@pcpolice2518
@pcpolice2518 2 жыл бұрын
We can’t tho bc you know “Brue rives matter!!!” Lmao
@ricoaztec1
@ricoaztec1 2 жыл бұрын
@@pcpolice2518 I meet a person with a blue line shirt and just ignore them or walk away.. blue line equals trumpster. 😂
@rudeboyragga
@rudeboyragga 2 жыл бұрын
ACAB
@notjoerogan
@notjoerogan 2 жыл бұрын
@@rudeboyragga Every profession has bad people. Is every cop bad? Obviously not. Is every cop good? Nope. By your logic, every person could be “bad”. Stop pushing hateful narratives.
@Melinda8162
@Melinda8162 2 жыл бұрын
@@notjoerogan And, you know, every one of those cop haters are THE FIRST to yell and scream for one when someone is beating their heads in or stealing their precious mo-peds etc! 😩. Right? There’s bad Drs., dentists, SCHOOL TEACHERS, nurses, hairdressers, barbers….., yet, ya’all go to them when needed! da de da! But, cops get the worst rap! They are human, have frailties like anyone. Doesn’t matter that profession is the ones upholding the laws, still doesn’t make them….’faultless’. @ricoaztec: So, keep ‘walking away’ moron….one less of you to bother with!
@Kari.F.
@Kari.F. 2 жыл бұрын
"Lake shaped foxes." That's our Mike! 😂👍👏
@annadean387
@annadean387 2 жыл бұрын
Stealing money is one thing. The fact that he was willing for potentially innocent people to go to jail to cover up his crimes is despicable.
@zarasbazaar
@zarasbazaar 2 жыл бұрын
And willing to murder the person who was uncovering his embezzlement.
@McSnezzly
@McSnezzly 2 жыл бұрын
Well and he was a rapist
@annadean387
@annadean387 2 жыл бұрын
@@McSnezzly uhhhhh was that in the video? I heard the sexual harassment and having affairs with coworkers bit but I definitely missed that part. Not doubting you or anything.
@cementer7665
@cementer7665 2 жыл бұрын
That is how the badge wearing COWARDS are 'trained', to choose a person at random to intimidate, terrorize and arrest.
@PANDAFACEEYES
@PANDAFACEEYES 2 жыл бұрын
That's what police do. They are the definition of wolves in sheeps' clothing
@ameliashostak4764
@ameliashostak4764 2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: Joe's wife Melodie plead guilty in court back in Feb for admitting she took money from the explorers program, which is embezzlement. She goes to court today April 12, 2022 to find out if she'll get probation or actual jail time.
@mznicky122007
@mznicky122007 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being 3 friends hanging out at the wrong place at the wrong time and all of a sudden you're being arrested and charged as a cop killer...... or worst getting murdered from some crime you didn't commit SMH
@strfltcmnd.9925
@strfltcmnd.9925 2 жыл бұрын
happens more often than we hear about.
@charlesjames1464
@charlesjames1464 2 жыл бұрын
Joe was making sure his widow and children get some more money they don't qualify for 👏.
@erinthesystem9608
@erinthesystem9608 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesjames1464 THANK YOU. And the original commentor here. People like Joe's wife tend to see their crimes- crimes like misallocation of funds- as victimless. (I really think there is some cluelessness still: that made-up Black perpetrators won't result in real-life Black men being impacted, arrested.) Real harm is done by their dishonesty. When money is misspent, and when manner of death is left an open question, other people can easily become victims, whether by the false accusations and/or a bad-faith insinuation, or by having funds wasted on situations which don't fit the criterium for which they were created. No matter if your victims are unseen or unintended, or if your crimes were financial, they still have the capacity to change, ruin, or even bring an end to the lives of other people. Recognizing that these crimes victimize other, probably unknown individuals, however- truly comprehending the potential harm done- demands some amount of caring about people who are outside one's own little circle of immediate self-interest. 😔The last, sickening bit of this was discovering that Joe's [self-righteous] family apparently shares his values.
@mrianwonder6527
@mrianwonder6527 2 жыл бұрын
That is everyone in prison and everyone killed by pigs.
@worldview6218
@worldview6218 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean, when a cop gets shot at, or killed , the police tend to get about 100 or more people and go on a rampage turning someone into Swiss cheese. I mean yeah, I’m not gonna act like they just go merking random people and usually it is the result of an actual cop killer being tracked down and just absolutely obliterated by police…but in a situation like this where it was a false report and suicide, you could easily think of a scenario where 3 random people who happened to fit the same demographic joe put out just going about their day being merked.
@InvitationtoAmy
@InvitationtoAmy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I was here for this one. I live in the area. Locked doors, thinking cop killers were on foot, people in an uproar over this mans death and the subsequent shock upon the findings once the metaphorical veil was lifted. Super excited for this one! Edit to add I HAD NO IDEA FOX LAKE WAS SHAPED LIKE… well, like that. We have Round Lake, Lake Villa, Island Lake, Grayslake, Crystal Lake, Lake Forest (Michael Jordan’s old home there) Lake in the Hills and good old Fox Lake. (I’m sure I missed a few) this is (take a guess… ) Lake County IL! More fun facts: next-door to Fox Lake is Antioch, Where Kyle Rittenhouse resides recently found not guilty as I’m sure everyone knows. (Rittenhouse was a part of an explorer program- wonder if it was the same one?!) Then we also have in Crystal Lake where young AJ Freund was murdered by his mother and father, Who said he was missing but later found in a field. They are locked up now. Horrible. Then we have Volo, also mentioned in the video (Volo bog) which is actually home to Volo Auto museum, a pretty cool place where are you can find the Batmobile, The Ghostbuster car and my fave, the Scooby-Doo van. Plus a shit ton of other cars. They actually just recently got some giant robotic dinosaurs that you can see from the highway. Which was a bit of a scare we went to their huge thrift store. Oh yeah, they have a thrift store. It’s full of treasures. It’s the best part of this whole post. Anyway. GREAT VIDEO, Mike!
@wulver810
@wulver810 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you lock your door? That makes no sense, people are strange.
@LúciaKitten
@LúciaKitten 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the fun facts!! I have to ask, you guys only started locking the doors then? I have a mini "Fort Knox" in my home, and every night I make sure it's all secured... I lived on a small ranch in MT 16 years ago and people STILL tried to break into my house... twice... I can't imagine not locking everything!
@amaraland1
@amaraland1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Thanks for so much great info😃
@InvitationtoAmy
@InvitationtoAmy 2 жыл бұрын
@@wulver810 they thought there were dangerous murders on the lose, on foot. Also had reported that they had not found the officers gun so, armed. People tend to lock doors for that stuff, I guess. I didn’t, however. Which is actually probably strange.
@InvitationtoAmy
@InvitationtoAmy 2 жыл бұрын
@@LúciaKitten oh people lock doors. We are an hour from Chicago. But it’s not common to be told to lock doors. 🤷‍♀️
@mondegofilms-2352
@mondegofilms-2352 2 жыл бұрын
"he didn't represent the Fox Lake community" yet, they covered up all the other issues that other officers brought up? let's face it, if that one bean counter hadn't forced the issue, he would have continued on playing hero and his superiors wouldn't have done a thing...
@termite7790
@termite7790 2 жыл бұрын
just gives good cops a bad name.!
@sailorarwen6101
@sailorarwen6101 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it sounds like he was a good community cop, but he was a TERRIBLE employee and ultimately a terrible person, but he was good at hiding it
@Franny_the_Fisher
@Franny_the_Fisher 2 жыл бұрын
I was working in fox ridge when this happened, I’ll never forget this time, but I also remember once the name got out, someone had said he prolly did it himself, how bad of a person he was, got eaten alive on Facebook by hundreds of people, weeks later he was laughing
@b4ubcomeold
@b4ubcomeold 2 жыл бұрын
TRuth! I've tried just listening without watching but NOPE! Not gonna happen!!!!! ! I'm always afraid I'll miss *the Insurance Dance* and I will beat down a door, knock over a baby and an old lady to be sure and see the ending..... *BECAUSE I LOVE YA* . *"Wink, Mike Out!"*
@Stephanie-hc8jm
@Stephanie-hc8jm 2 жыл бұрын
There is a really good podcast about this case, if you're interested: 'Over My Dead Body: Fox Lake'
@AntiNoob79
@AntiNoob79 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will have to check it out.
@starskymedia
@starskymedia 2 жыл бұрын
"he didn't represent the Fox lake police community" The same police community that rallied around him time and time again each time he did some disgusting or corrupt thing, the same police community that couldn't even set a standard of professionalism high enough for him to lose his job? Seems like he represented your police community just fine
@brycearmstrong2891
@brycearmstrong2891 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't represent the ones he couldn't intimidate., probably.
@AL-op3ue
@AL-op3ue 2 жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly, what a load of BS
@ianmoone9036
@ianmoone9036 2 жыл бұрын
@@brycearmstrong2891 they stick together, thin blue line gang
@jospeaches8533
@jospeaches8533 2 жыл бұрын
G.I.JOKE!!!clever!! As always great vid 👌
@brycearmstrong2891
@brycearmstrong2891 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianmoone9036 they certainly do, in public. Usually they can't stand each other in private.
@edunlap6594
@edunlap6594 2 ай бұрын
I'm always shaking my head whenever I learn that people like him were written up on the job forever and never let go. I can say no to someone and get let go 😸
@amatteroftimeisuppose8900
@amatteroftimeisuppose8900 2 жыл бұрын
I spend alot of time in the chain area, mostly Antioch. I worked with a guy who was in the explorer progran and new joe personally. It was crazy when all of that shit happened. Once rumors started about suicide and his crimes, all of the support and stickers and posters vanished practically overnight.
@tcnshr
@tcnshr 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from the area too. I got to do some work with Lt Joe in lake county. Crazy case some of my friends still think there’s more to this story.
@amatteroftimeisuppose8900
@amatteroftimeisuppose8900 2 жыл бұрын
@@tcnshr i remember alot of people were saying he was the fall guy for something bigger.
@cuppabeetea7301
@cuppabeetea7301 2 жыл бұрын
@@amatteroftimeisuppose8900 Also originally from the area with family still there. It would not surprise me one bit if there were a lot more to the story, but this is what is officially known.
@Kay-st8fk
@Kay-st8fk 2 жыл бұрын
Omg yes, I remember driving home near the area, and all over people were making posters and had them out, on fb people had shirts made, restaurants were sending free food to the officers while on the search, the community was just like really trying to make it better, then like the next day everyone was so embarrassed for showing empathy and being tricked.. felt so sad seeing it all unfold.
@clockworktri
@clockworktri 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually kind of a relief he didn't take his family with him. If I've learned anything about family annihilators from all my true crime viewings, it's that a lot of them were narcissists that saw no way out.
@MrRyan-wu4jx
@MrRyan-wu4jx 2 жыл бұрын
A life insurance policy actually might’ve saved lives in this one for once. Gave Joe the option of trying to have his family benefit from his death instead of just taking everyone with him.
@shitneyb5562
@shitneyb5562 2 жыл бұрын
@TheDarkerKnight very true but then I wonder if I found out my husband or father did this, would I help cover it up? Honestly.. Probably.
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 2 жыл бұрын
Are cops allowed to get life insurance? If I was an insurer I wouldn’t do it.
@TK-ui2th
@TK-ui2th 2 жыл бұрын
@@rubyoro0 uhm then thank heavens you're not an insurer.. why would someone with an incredibly dangerous job not be allowed to have life insurance? that's the exact person who needs it
@AL-op3ue
@AL-op3ue 2 жыл бұрын
@@shitneyb5562 honest question, why? why would you help cover it up?
@industrialover
@industrialover 2 жыл бұрын
It makes me sad that all these hours were spent searching for his killers, more work was probably put into this case than most, and other cases were put to the side for it. Cops always tell you they're working as hard as they can for you and your loved ones, but that's not ever true. They work ten times harder for their own
@andrewsuleman1259
@andrewsuleman1259 2 жыл бұрын
Whats worse is that the ones in charge knew from the beginning that there was no "3 suspects" and I find it funny that none of them have been investigated for "miss use of public funds" (or something along them lines) 🤔 but why would they investigated themselves...
@CowboyredPedro
@CowboyredPedro 2 жыл бұрын
It was called in as a chase though, if the police didn’t follow up with actually searching for the guys who allegedly did it, that department would be under so much fire if there actually were killers against their thinking.
@bsqwahlE
@bsqwahlE 2 жыл бұрын
@@CowboyredPedro hello, my issue is that the cop's service weapon was next to his body and they LIED about it. The supposed big danger to the community was that these anonymous young men had the gun and had killed a cop. The coroner would have known that Joe killed himself, so the cops knew a search was a waste of money and manpower. This was a cover-up and heads should roll. smh
@agoo7581
@agoo7581 2 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt in my mind that those pigs were looking for three random black people to incarcerate, only to come clean when they found out it was impossible.
@julitakamaki4386
@julitakamaki4386 2 жыл бұрын
That’s human nature. People that claim “we’re all human” blah blah equality blah, live in a fantasy world were natural instinct doesn’t exist.
@lisahinton9682
@lisahinton9682 2 жыл бұрын
You are such a good story-teller, Mike! I sure didn't see that coming! Thank you for another great video, Bud!
@TheAbomb
@TheAbomb 2 жыл бұрын
One thing stood out to me, he was reprimanded for not handing out enough traffic citations, only half as much as others.thats total bs! Not the reprimanded part but.....
@godspellflowerfr5991
@godspellflowerfr5991 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to the podcast Over My Dead Body not too long ago when they did a season on G.I Joe. I highly recommend it to those hearing about this case for the first time! Can’t wait to see Mike’s storytelling for this one
@lovepet4565
@lovepet4565 2 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the Snake Murder : lynlee renick
@goosebump801
@goosebump801 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovepet4565 Oh, I’d LOVE to hear Mike give that one a goo! 👀😂❤️😂
@tomsuiteriii9742
@tomsuiteriii9742 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation. It’s nice to have a more in-depth analysis of a case like this.
@Joffar
@Joffar 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a terrific podcast. I enjoy Mike's snark too much to give his take a pass. 😏
@godspellflowerfr5991
@godspellflowerfr5991 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovepet4565 no i haven’t, I’ll have to check it out and see if it’s a similar vibe. Thanks!
@Ender7j
@Ender7j 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe there wasn’t any life insurance involved…
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 2 жыл бұрын
Pice usually have it, he most likely did. It doesn't cover suicide however....another reason for the staging of events...
@RarePhantom
@RarePhantom 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, if you're reading this, please look into The Memphis 3 case!
@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 2 жыл бұрын
It’s on the list!
@lolaspratt5860
@lolaspratt5860 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Mike’s coverage of that. Great suggestion!
@onsight1751
@onsight1751 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatChapter Mike, do the Diane ripple case. San Francisco dog mauling. Crazy story. Involves nazi prison gangs, shady lawyers, and beastiality. You should most definitely "give it a go"
@monicahenrion1559
@monicahenrion1559 2 жыл бұрын
@@onsight1751 That sounds insane!
@tembymkatshane6322
@tembymkatshane6322 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since I discovered Mike I haven’t missed a single episode. Mad love all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦
@daniellebreaux5195
@daniellebreaux5195 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@wilmalensink9278
@wilmalensink9278 2 жыл бұрын
Same here 💘
@stephanpot
@stephanpot 2 жыл бұрын
Same here.... And also from South-Africa !!!!
@tamsenvanaswegen6172
@tamsenvanaswegen6172 2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@KJ.85
@KJ.85 2 жыл бұрын
"He didn't represent all of the Fox Lake officers. He didn't represent the Fox Lake community." Wellll....🤔 They were perfectly okay with him representing them when he was spoken highly of by other cities/towns, his many letters of praise, a funeral unlike any other, and the thousands of people and officers who supported their community. And now that the truth is out about him they want to distance themselves as far as possible. But, the department carries a lot of blame, seeing how they knew the truth of who he was outside of work and while duty.
@John-of5ud
@John-of5ud 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Every town is protecting at least one cop like this, I swear. Red flags everywhere and no one says a thing until it's far too late.
@rg-pq1kb
@rg-pq1kb 2 жыл бұрын
well said... all these cowards come out of the woodwork when its safe
@jesscorner6381
@jesscorner6381 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Drforce2311
@Drforce2311 2 жыл бұрын
The real problem is giving someone a blank checkbook with no oversight for years. That welcomes abuse and it usually ends bad.
@ATRUSTEDSERVANT
@ATRUSTEDSERVANT 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he intended to kill himself. He waited for backup before shooting himself again. First one was into the body armor. I think he thought he'd be saved and become a wounded hero to detract from his crimes.
@ricoaztec1
@ricoaztec1 2 жыл бұрын
No..he knew he was fu@ked. The shot to the body armor was to make it believable. He didn't wait for backup, he just requested backup.
@mango8918
@mango8918 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think he would shoot himself in the head if he didn't intend to kill himself. At the time there was even speculation that his wife knew of his intentions because of his corrupt activities and, the vise was getting tighter on him and her.
@Cenentury0941
@Cenentury0941 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricoaztec1 18:30 called for backup, and when they arrived, shot himself again. Unless there's negligible latency between the call and their arrival, he waited for backup.
@LelaPettis
@LelaPettis 2 жыл бұрын
As a former dispatcher and now quite the opposite attitude towards cops, he probably held the belief that he was indeed f@cked and if an officer dies "on duty" the spouse gets almost 3 to 4 times the amount of life insurance payout
@melody3741
@melody3741 2 жыл бұрын
@@mango8918 he didn’t shoot himself in the head - two in the body. Lungs were bleeding and it came out his mouth.
@loretta_3843
@loretta_3843 2 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed that they came out and told the public what he was up to. It must have been a hard thing to do!
@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55
@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 2 жыл бұрын
It was their job to come out and tell the public... if they didn't they would be just as bad as him
@boogityhoo7452
@boogityhoo7452 2 жыл бұрын
The reason they took so long and were supposedly investigating it was because they were trying to find someone to convict instead if telling the truth, the paramedics knew right away it was self inflicted and the fact they "couldnt" find his gun which was right next to him until they "solved" the case is a big piece of evidence pointing to that fact. They had his gun the entire time and were going to plant it on the person who they were going to blame for it but whether it was stopped by a higher up or they ended up thinking better of that or whatever the reason they changed their mind, Im glad they did cause the person who would have been framed would have had no chance in hell to beat that case. It's really sad that it was even thought of to frame an innocent person just so it wasn't on record that a police officer killed himself because if how crooked he was. This is the type of behaviour that piss ppl off about police officers but the ppl who blindly support them refuse to see any if this corruption going on right in front of their faces.
@lizh4933
@lizh4933 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. The guy who investigated this is a morally, stellar individual. There is a really great podcast on this whole mess. The podcast is: "Over My Dead Body".
@hardcorhedcase
@hardcorhedcase 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, the "bad guy" killed himself making it easy to come out with HIS wrongdoing. They get to look good for coming out with a resolution while also having a scapegoat for wrongdoing bc the "bad cop" all ready killed himself.
@loretta_3843
@loretta_3843 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 of course it was their job and duty to admit all, but that doesn't mean it always happens. Thankfully, they didn't hide it, that's what makes it worse in the long run.
@treeteresa2260
@treeteresa2260 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much, Mike. my beloved 15. year old pupper passed a few days ago. I bottle fed her since birth. Lucy was my world and not a lot takes my mind off everything. you and your channel has been excellent in helping me get through this time. thank you, I love ya. see ya next time
@jillniemczynski5517
@jillniemczynski5517 2 жыл бұрын
Teresa I'm so sorry for your loss of Lucy. I've been through the same thing many, many times. I totally understand how you feel. Lucy knows you love her, & she will be with you always. You will see her again. Take care & God bless. 😢💔🙏💪🕊️🕯️✌️💙💐
@loiscassels8966
@loiscassels8966 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry for your loss❤️🇨🇦
@proudmen1220
@proudmen1220 2 жыл бұрын
An animal?
@Rebecca-fg7pp
@Rebecca-fg7pp 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss. I lost my little pup of 16 yrs. last December. I know it hurts but I have no doubt she loved you and knew that she was loved. She'll always be with you. I hope your heart heals soon.
@ryanramsey9621
@ryanramsey9621 2 жыл бұрын
Dogs are such special animals that have been our buddies and protectors for thousands of years. It is very sad to lose our special friends and I certainly wish dogs had a longer life. My brother had to put his black labradoodle Max after 13 amazing years. It was very sad bc Max was really amazing when our Dad suddenly died. Max missed Dad too. But Max never had a bad day and was treated like the special boy he was. My brother was not going to get another dog but after a few months he said it sucked not having a dog so he found a Goldendoodle pup and named him Winston. The two could not have more different personalities but they are both caring sweet doggos. Sorry you lost your best friend. Dogs really do improve our human lives.
@changopardomuzik4953
@changopardomuzik4953 2 жыл бұрын
Holy Shit the cop in the suit and blue shirt at 16:55 is the cop who did all the talking during the recent Highland Park, Illinois 4th of July mass shooting
@foxorian
@foxorian 2 жыл бұрын
the clips of the people who continue to think it wasn't a suicide and that Joe was setup through department corruption is the weirdest part of this whole story
@toast3591
@toast3591 2 жыл бұрын
Right! “It was a hoax!” You are right lady, it was a hoax a hoax named joe
@Mo0may
@Mo0may 2 жыл бұрын
I’m never surprised when “good” people are secretly doing bad things. It’s just really sad that suicide was his answer.
@ziggyschumann5284
@ziggyschumann5284 2 жыл бұрын
Cowards commit suicide. And people who swim in the ocean of self-pity.
@anonymousaccount8941
@anonymousaccount8941 2 жыл бұрын
@@ziggyschumann5284 I think that's a bit simplistic... People who see no way out commit suicide but pack animals set on people when they're down
@Treeko55
@Treeko55 2 жыл бұрын
@@ziggyschumann5284 and only cowards talk for the dead and assume there pain
@shannonjackson9778
@shannonjackson9778 2 жыл бұрын
Woah watch out guys we got an edge lord in the comments over here 😂 go take your hot takes over to the incel reddit page and get your validation there buddy
@heathertaylor8904
@heathertaylor8904 2 жыл бұрын
@@ziggyschumann5284 people commit suicide when the pain they're in outweighs their coping mechanisms. This is the viewpoint of one who's never experienced that kind of pain.
@GeneralZod99
@GeneralZod99 2 жыл бұрын
5:28 There was no sign of the tree men? Well, they were in the swamp and blended right in, duh!
@essayess3
@essayess3 4 ай бұрын
Everything about the guy's image says "prick"
@IIcute24
@IIcute24 2 жыл бұрын
All I can think about when hearing this case is what about the innocent men he tried to “accuse” yeah this jerks life is over, his kids have to deal with that. But when you think about 3 men who could’ve been charged over this lying, cheating manipulative crooked cop….. it really doesn’t sit well with me…. Innocent people could’ve been harmed because of one shitty cop….. smh he didn’t care enough about his career, family and kids enough to just be a good person/cop….. so I don’t have a lot of sympathy for him. I reserve that for people who actually could’ve been harmed….. this is why bad cops should be exposed, and fired, all this with pay is bs….. he was a bad man, bad cop. Period
@kenyattaclay7666
@kenyattaclay7666 2 жыл бұрын
I’m originally from Chicago & as soon as I heard about the radio call of him saying one of them was a black male I said the story was bullshit because there aren’t many black folks in that area & if they were going to come from the outside they would’ve already had a car because they would’ve been coming from Waukegan, North Chicago (by Great Lakes naval base) or Kenosha. However where he reported the suspicious activity someone from the immediate area would’ve had to known about it to get away & seeing as how there are so few black people in Fox Lake they would’ve been able to quickly connect them with the shooting.
@donnydogpiss4533
@donnydogpiss4533 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, you know your shit, lol.
@deniserossiter1059
@deniserossiter1059 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the added info. I love when people who are from a particular area of a case give us unreported details.
@BrainznTrainz
@BrainznTrainz 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Antioch and you’re right, not a lot of black people here and the ones that are here aren’t usually criminals
@tapset
@tapset 2 жыл бұрын
That's Fox lake for you
@aemxo
@aemxo 2 жыл бұрын
It's like the Jussie Smollett tale. They lost me completely when they claimed the assailants referred to Chicago as MAGA country 😂 As if MAGA heads are out and about in Streeterville like that.
@jen30551
@jen30551 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 90s a friend of mine who was underage had a relationship with a cop. He used to pick her up at her fast food job in his patrol car. She said he even had her help put down traffic cones during an accident investigation. At the time it was a badge of honor (pun intended) for each of them and I didn't really judge. Looking back I find it incredibly creepy and it disturbs me even more how common it was. Guys like him and Drew Peterson operated with impunity for a long time.
@whitebloodism
@whitebloodism 2 жыл бұрын
What did you do about it?
@idorus
@idorus 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i lived in a small city near la and heard from my moms friend who had an addict son that his wife would sleep with the cops to get out of posession charges and other bs. even if she consented thats still unprofessional and she probably isnt the only one doing it over there and it probably happens in alot of other places. alot of women who do drugs prostitute to support their habit so sleeping with a cop to get out of charges isnt probably a big deal and the cops take advantage of their vulnerable situation. i dont agree with all this cop hating stuff recently but hopefully we will get some kind of positive changes.
@jen30551
@jen30551 2 жыл бұрын
@@whitebloodism Nothing. We were in our late teens/early twenties from dysfunctional families. She saw him as a protector and a lover. As far as I know he wasnt violent or controlling. I never met him but even if I had given all I just said, I probably wouldn't have done anything. And if I did it probably wouldn't have amounted to much. Possibly made things worse. As she got older she began to seek a different kind of man and is happily married now. The cop is probably retired by now...
@jen30551
@jen30551 2 жыл бұрын
@@idorus I 100% believe it. I'm not anti cop either. Had a rough upbringing in LA and saw a lot. There are some amazing cops out there and some that are absolutely disgusting and terrifying. I imagine even the best cops have to look away from certain things so I'm grateful for the level of scrutiny we are seeing now. I'm hopeful that significant positive change will come from it. Hope your friend has managed to get clean. That life is hell.
@whitebloodism
@whitebloodism 2 жыл бұрын
@jen30551 cop or not that’s grooming and damaging. Every one that is let off is a chance of abusing again. Hopefully that person hasn’t abused again in the time of your friends happy marriage.
@Jason-un9ps
@Jason-un9ps 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he wasn’t the only one stealing, but his death sure gave them the perfect scapegoat, huh?
@Offu-cz9wl
@Offu-cz9wl 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever wonder where some of your audience watches your videos from. Currently watching from an offshore drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico. Showed my whole crew your channel and they’re hooked. Keep up all the awesome hard work 🙌🏼🙌🏼
@LisaBowers
@LisaBowers 2 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating place to watch Mike! This may sound like a dumb question, but how do y'all get internet access way out there? I'm currently watching from my snow-covered house in South Carolina. (Six whole inches of snow! 😮)
@castlesteinway7741
@castlesteinway7741 2 жыл бұрын
Currently watching from a very small but very cozy (if not cluttered) short bus parked semi‐permanantly in a field in Portland OR, with a very talkative but snuggly black cat. :)
@Offu-cz9wl
@Offu-cz9wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisaBowers we have wifi and satellite networks out here, enjoy the snow 🙃
@davidhynd4435
@davidhynd4435 2 жыл бұрын
All he needed to do was to grow his hair long, power up the flux capacitor, accelerate the DeLorean to 88 miles per hour and start a new life in 1955.
@meisteremm
@meisteremm 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of my old professor in college, who was a cop in addition to teaching. He embezzled more than $200,000.00 from The Shriner's Children's Hospital Charity Fund a few years ago and to the best of my knowledge is still in prison. He told us a story once about how he and a partner beat the shit out of somebody they'd arrested because the guy mouthed off to them; just talking to my old professor, you would never think him capable of doing something like that. This is why the Police scare the hell out of me.
@Mr.Robert1
@Mr.Robert1 2 жыл бұрын
Never had a problem with the police in my life. 60 years old now used to get pulled over for excessive speeding all the time. Spoke to them respectfully got my ticket and kept moving.
@meisteremm
@meisteremm 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Robert1 That's nice, but I've had my life threatened at gunpoint by my city's finest in spite of posing no threat to them or anyone else. Your experience is not the same as mine or the experiences of many other people in this country.
@moonxshakti
@moonxshakti 2 жыл бұрын
@@meisteremm a bad apple does not spoil the bunch
@commietube4273
@commietube4273 2 жыл бұрын
They should scare you. Back the blue until it happens to you.
@bigappleheart
@bigappleheart 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonxshakti the saying is: one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
@shedaisy1979
@shedaisy1979 2 жыл бұрын
We love you, Mike! Thanks for being one of the absolute, best storytellers on KZbin ❤
@sarahgonzalez4197
@sarahgonzalez4197 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, I’m begging you do to a video about Jeffrey Locker. A guy who apparently solicited someone to help him stage his own murder, but was a suicide so his family could collect money. I feel like it’s not talked about nearly enough but the man convicted of the crime is getting a new trial and it’s been over a decade.
@Strype13
@Strype13 2 жыл бұрын
We should probably be doing full-scale audits on all cops. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be very surprised to find a large number of them getting away with the same type of behavior Joe had been getting away with for years. I don't think this kind of stuff is as uncommon as we would hope it to be.
@alicelaybourne1620
@alicelaybourne1620 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure. I was shocked at the intense scrutiny over 3 late arrivals. I am not a late person, so perhaps I am naive, but they seem very regimented. That said, I think this is likely true in all vocations.
@HelloTuuuurdz
@HelloTuuuurdz 2 жыл бұрын
For sure
@hatake1990
@hatake1990 2 жыл бұрын
It's 100% not uncommon.
@jebbush6657
@jebbush6657 2 жыл бұрын
@@alicelaybourne1620 did you miss the "thousands of dollars in embezzlement over nearly a decade" part? WTF do you mean "3 late arrivals"?!?!
@travisgartside409
@travisgartside409 2 жыл бұрын
Like Catholic priests, police - despite being caught red handed and more then a few of the bunch doing the same, just get moved to new departments/perishes. The dirty deeds are swept under the rug, the angry public is told the problem has been taken care of, but they protect their own and just move them far enough away they won't be recognized.
@iamV10010
@iamV10010 2 жыл бұрын
I love how that old lady was like "I think this is a big conspiracy!" Yeah, grandma. There was. It was the cop. Hello.
@McSnezzly
@McSnezzly 2 жыл бұрын
Boomers are pro cop cause they need to justify their innate racism and twisted authoritarianism
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
You sure dunked on that rando old lady.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
@@McSnezzly Fervid ideological babble.
@iamV10010
@iamV10010 2 жыл бұрын
@@eadweard. K
@ticketyboo2456
@ticketyboo2456 2 жыл бұрын
@@McSnezzly You are a bigot.
@mogusmonroe9431
@mogusmonroe9431 2 жыл бұрын
Once the cop announced he was chasing after someone, they had to treat it as a murder. Didn't matter that they may have suspected suicide an hour or two later. The town could be put into financial trouble if they were wrong, having gave no attempt to look for a suspect, and someone else was murdered.
@isabellind1292
@isabellind1292 2 жыл бұрын
That's right. And allowing one person to be in charge of the books for YEARS is just reckless! Did they never conduct audits? What a shady bunch of people in charge!
@bsqwahlE
@bsqwahlE 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, the coroner would have known right away that Joe killed himself. Just the fact that cops pretended that 'the suspects' had Joe's service weapon is evidence of a cover-up. There is zero evidence that two white guys and a black guy were in the area; no footprints, no random security footage, no suspicious autos. This case was a wrap before lunchtime. But, the cops had to put on a show for the benefit of civilians and their department. I'd like to know how much this show cost the taxpayers.
@kathurtado13
@kathurtado13 2 жыл бұрын
@@bsqwahlE it costs the taxpayers Thousands! There, now that you have that valid information, can you sleep better tonight? Smh 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️
@AutomaticDuck300
@AutomaticDuck300 2 жыл бұрын
@@bsqwahlE $300k if you really want to know. And that was just the first 3 weeks of the investigation. $196k of that went on paying overtime to the police officers and staff working during that time.
@kenyattaclay7666
@kenyattaclay7666 2 жыл бұрын
@@bsqwahlE I think the officers got suspicious when he reported that there was a black guy to begin with. I’m from Chicago & there just aren’t that many black people in that Fox Lake area so they would’ve stuck out like a sore thumb & if they were outsiders they would’ve had to have a car already because the closest cities they could’ve come from while close, aren’t walking distance.
@J..a..y
@J..a..y Жыл бұрын
Don't let them fool ya,! They're Not Ur Friend!
@maxrage2104
@maxrage2104 2 жыл бұрын
I live in fox lake and it's definitely the furthest thing from a vacation spot. If ya want drugs or crime stop by! When this went down they had the whole town shut down.
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