The Case of Graham Dwyer

In 2012 Elaine O'Hara disappeared after leaving her home in south Dublin. After her car was found, it was believed that she may have ended her own life. But, over a year later, some of her items were found in a reservoir, and around the same time, what really happened to Elaine O'Hara was revealed. This lead the police to a man named Graham Dwyer.
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[@generationofswine-ge5rw]

"I would like not to be stabbed." That's setting the bar pretty low for a relationship.

[@govergaauw7360]

I mean.... same. At this point I'll take it.

[@LogainAblar]

In BDSM, the bar is pretty low on average.

[@youngknowledgeseeker]

Welcome to 2020

[@Marie.b]

It wasn't a relationship in the traditional sense. It was hookup for BDSM. She was obviously getting better mentally and realised that was not what she wanted and wasn't food for her mental health.

[@gcroga568]

Logain UBiv Tnomal Ablar that’s a broad assumption. In BDSM there is an expectation of mutual consent, mutual respect of individual limitations and boundaries, regard for safety no matter the type of play or sexual acts and adherence to law/legal rights/legal requirements in terms of safety and acts which are not legal (ie; some extremely disturbed people are into cannibalism, but being involved in the BDSM scene and saying the victim gave consent to be eaten would not make that ok in any way). In the BDSM scene there is a vast array of role types, interests, and personal limitations. Of course some people do not respect the things I mentioned above, though plenty of people outside of BDSM also do not respect mutual consent or the other things I listed. Having an interest in or being involved in a BDSM scene or lifestyle is not indicative of setting the bar low. It is solely a matter of personal taste. Please don’t pass negative judgments on an entire group of people/or concept, simply because you don’t think you like it. Maybe it’s not your cup of tea and that’s fine, but it sounds like you don’t know much about it. Unfortunately some assholes, like the perpetrator in this video use the scene as a front to attempt getting away with doing nefarious things to non-consenting people, just like what happened in this case.

[@pineapplepen540]

"She wanted a loving relationship, a baby..." That's the hardest part to listen to. That hurt more than all the rest.

[@joannedeal3418]

I feel very sad for this lady, but I think it's also best that she didn't have a child. She couldn't even look after herself safely and I would hate to think what might have happened to it. I wouldn't put it past that psychopathic freak to torture and murder the child too. I hope his wife divorced him. His family must be so ashamed of him.

[@ARedMagicMarker]

Glad you're not blaming his wife or mother for him being a psychopath. I see too much of that crap.

[@poponachtschnecke]

@@joannedeal3418 so glad I'm not the only one to be thinking that

[@elliottboomsluiter7214]

Why was she looking for a loving relationship on a bdsm site? Am i missing something?

[@jennajune2101]

People with serious mental illnesses can have children & provide them a proper upbringing. That’s if they do a lot of work on themselves & get their issues under control FIRST, AND work extremely close with all their doctors (including prenatal specialists). A woman who’s Australian & has Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is one success story here on KZbin. However, I don’t think this woman was ready yet & was looking in the wrong places for love, unfortunately.

[@psychohippie]

The fact Mike put that policeman saying "tirteen" on repeat to defend himself is both hilarious and sad. Leave Mike Alone!!!

[@rehab5355]

Mike is a person; He has dignity

[@fraukie1598]

@@rehab5355 Not on youtube.. Here are many folk around who don't know what dignity means.

[@DaRkHoRsE-_-]

IKR? Just ignant folk who do not appreciate dialectical differences.. hmmph 😔😎🥸

[@LittleSeasonist]

Nah, just hilarious

[@slightlysaltyy]

What im intersted in is why he says hospital like its a proper noun? Like whenever he mentions it he says "in Hospital" instead of "in the hospital" any idea why?

[@bex2261]

This one always makes me sad. Never trust a man who gets off on hurting women.

[@Cat-ej6ji]

The best thing about my bad memory is rewatching these uploads

[@christinagraham7959]

Exactly 🤣🤣 I only get on youtube for Mike and bailey lmao.

[@gjkvcnjhygfccccccccc]

Same bout. But to be fair I listened to alot of these while falling asleep

[@cordelia9714]

Love this! So true! 😂😂😂

[@dweldasmith688]

Exactly! Well put

[@Pattyk2020]

lol. Me too ;)

[@ColorMeIn]

The text of Elaine having to tell Graham that she is a person who deserves dignity was heartbreaking, and then his disgusting response...what a horrible human being.

[@inzakay791]

Horrible. But would have a bit of a giggle with the witty response if it wasn't such a horiffic situation.

[@annanadjaenite]

Ben Siener victim blaming 🤢🤮

[@MrLorincombs]

@@annanadjaenite without a doubt lol... What a loser

[@simshaver]

@Ben Siener if she had bpd then she would tend to have a co dependency on other people, even ones that treated her like that. but ok! blame a victim!

[@simshaver]

@Ben Siener you're the fat loser getting mad over someone who was murdered being defended. get a life dude lmao you're honestly pathetic

[@dkcorderoyximenez3382]

I never tolerated bullies even in my childhood....that Ms. O'Hara was ridiculed as a kid breaks my heart.... I will now forever wonder what her life might have been if given an ounce of dignity and loving kindness daily...??? RIP...

[@rckkeller9437]

Well said. It isn’t enough not to bully, but to defend the victims.

[@OS-bq7ew]

I was 15 when this happened and I wasn’t really exposed to it apart from hearing that she grew up in my grandparents’ estate and hearing when her remains were identified, which is a distinct memory of mine.. the rest of the story is way more horrific than I’d thought, and the fact that EU law is threatening the justice Elaine finally got. Poor woman.

[@vickil3256]

So sad when one reaches out from the depths of loneliness only to be met by darkness. 😞

[@eklypps1134]

BPD people tend to be co-dependent, and unfortunately attract dangerous narcissists like Graham in their lives.... It has long been the saddest & most tragic story of all....💔

[@immortalthoughtprocesspier4252]

Well people easily stigmatize others by the way they are, and when one is often depressed they'll usually be quiet often then being criticized by another that doesn't care or understsnd. Usually it's more better to confide in family then to confide with "friends" because at least if you confide with family you'll usually never need to be criticized, in some cases.

[@headkandywhore]

Perfectly said 😿💔

[@sharpedge3355]

What puzzles me is the need to open the door to what is worse for you instead of crafting an existence to survive.

[@sega62s]

we said 🥰

[@honestinsincerity2270]

That bathroom he designed was just atrocious honestly. Like he was trying to use the worst colors for the sake of being artsy

[@inzakay791]

Uugh. Can you imagine that decor anywhere, especially the Emerald Isle of all places?! Plaon and simple just awful. No wonder he was still in such financial debt. People should work in a career that highlights their strengths... No wait... In this case I actually take that back!

[@honestinsincerity2270]

@@inzakay791 haha, yeah good call. Wouldn't want him starting a badly planned murder franchise

[@JessG_20]

Yep that's how a lot of those "abstract" artists are. They either make something totally atrocious in a way of making it "unique"....or ya know..... Just splatter some paint on a canvas and claim that it's an "emotional, beautiful piece of work".

[@Duhbella]

Truly a psychopath in every way.

[@lcl2506]

His design alone tells me he is a psychopath

[@keef78]

This is one of the creepiest cases that sticks in my mind. Imagine what he did to her that last time, all alone in the wilderness. Poor girl with no one to turn to but him.

[@SineadMaria211]

My heart broke for Elaine, she was just so vulnerable 😰

[@vinny1883]

The dogs bringing back bones with clothes on them is actually horrifying

[@robydee920]

I know,I hate when that happens.

[@valinor5397]

@@robydee920 😂👌

[@amandaoneill5136]

Not funny rip Elaine

[@reignman30]

She wasn't curious until they brought one back with clothing ... soooo ummm ... what happened to the previous bones?

[@laurielovett8849]

Only for the dog, Dwyer might still be killing. Dog only brought bones,no cloth, lady found like what looked like a human rib cage,and trousers with a boot inside leg, possibly bones in shoe. Sad. He should be tagged if released early, otherwise will kill again The two most dangerous and obnoxious men in Ireland, Dwyer and Murphy,the beast of Baktingglass, the latter now free. Guilty of an horrific abduction rape and caught in the very act of strangling the girl he abducted, ,lucky lucky lady, but a suspect in many unsolved murder cases and to think he was let out early, untagged, authorities have no notion where he is most of the time, authorities got him a passport before releasing him. Supposed to report but was spotted in Spain chatting up two girls, spotted in England chatting up a girl. Spotted by lady sitting beside him on return trip from Spain. Eventually some unfortunate girl is going to get unlucky. He should have been made to agree to tagging or stay in prison.

[@Autumn_Forest_]

Broke my heart that she wanted love and a baby, and he murdered her instead.

[@nodiggity9472]

He was just scared of commitment.

[@yagesh287]

This will sound offensive but she would have destroyed her children's life with her depression

[@Autumn_Forest_]

@@yagesh287 Oh, almost certainly...but maybe not. She did have some obviously serious issues though, so she definitely didn’t need a baby, but it’s just sad that that’s all she wanted (such common things which so many people want), and he killed her like she was worthless.

[@ulitmategamer1611]

she went on a BDSM site looking for love ? wrong wrong wrong !!

[@yagesh287]

@@Autumn_Forest_ Yeah its saddening but she shouldhave worked on herself before trying to start a family. This kind of depression then runs for generations. People who have grown up in dysfunctional family would know.

[@tp8077]

This is such a sad story. I want to be loved, not stabbed! So sick😩

[@veronicastromberg6755]

He kept bugging Elaine to let him kill her since he knew she was struggling with suicide thoughts and she kept refusing and wanting to live, and she didn't want to be cut anymore. That was the worst thing to me

[@jazzliaz2789]

I'm so jealous of Mike, he won't catch the Coronavirus because he's stuck in whatever that black box is.

[@Vexarax]

I shouldn't laugh, but this comment did make me chuckle a little, heh

[@tonichan89]

And I'm not letting him out any time soon. It’s for his own good.

[@vegemitesandwich81]

BEST COMMENT 😂😂😂

[@catherinerainville4232]

😂😂😂

[@ghostmyers2019]

It's actually a triangle. It only has tree sides.

[@evedeady]

Graham lived about 20mins from my home, he keeps trying to appeal his case, he's an absolute narrsastic monster

[@Oakleaf700]

Like another complete monster , the bloke who murdered his entire family, Jeremy Bamber. He keeps appealing, too.

[@teasesquezze]

@Willem Chastity lol...ha ha lol Can we all agree that Willem Chastity is gorgeous..lol

[@teasesquezze]

@Willem Chastity Ahh good man, I think its fair to say from your reply that you think you are GORGEOUS lol.. and sure why not. Enjoy yourself. x

[@carolinerowles5951]

@Willem Chastity 18 stone is a powerful engine, more cushion for the pushin!

[@carolinerowles5951]

@Willem Chastity I'm English so our engines aren't as big as you yanks......we are talking about cars right? Lol I love a flirt x

[@DrGarri]

He is expected to be released by the end of this year, 2021, my blood boils!

[@dortesandal4303]

😱😨😨

[@melissajacobs5822]

WHAAAT?!!

[@jaywa101]

Irish sentences are far too short especially for murders like this. I think someone who carries out a crime like this does not deserve to be any part of society. They should be imprisoned without parole FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. No compassionate day-releases or bonuses for good behaviour. Lock em up, no tv, no phone, no books, just the stink of their own failed, miserable, ugly personality for the rest of their worthless lives. Anything else is pandering.

[@karensills42]

Ye parole is available after 7 years here I think but it's being extended to 12 or something. Still way too short!!!

[@antjobert]

Where's Dexter when you need him?

[@JackTheVulture]

This one is just....this one hurts more than a lot of the other ones I've heard. She never caught a break...she just wanted to be loved. So heartbreaking. she deserved so much better.

[@tetsuan25]

The poor woman had been systematically abused her whole life, that she sought out this trash and believed she some how deserved it. it's beyond sad when someone's soul has been trampled so harshly that they see no good in themselves. I hate people

[@aj_meshuggah]

So do I

[@benbooth2783]

Try to remember most people are decent, if your going to watch crime shows be aware these are rare circumstances. You don't hate people, you hate bad people. It doesn't help anyone to be over-simple and pessimistic. Apart from that I agree, this is a very sad story. I wish I could have helped this woman, but to be honest I'm not sure I could, I'm barely treading water as it is and I'd probably walk right by her without a second thought. If you saw this woman in the street, what would you do, do you look out for these people, do you hate yourself for not doing it? You can't save everyone, just do the best you can for yourself and your community.

[@aj_meshuggah]

@@benbooth2783 well put/ said

[@clockwinder2924]

@Ben Booth, what you said is very true. I hope you’re doing better now yourself.

[@georgiadn1619]

I hate people too.

[@Katyayay]

She was clearly incredibly vulnerable and lonely. He took full advantage and exploited it to fulfil his sick desires. I feel so much for Elaine. And to have her private life splashed in the public as some tabloid-y affair is even worse

[@jenniferprevost8]

You nailed it. My thoughts exactly. Feel badly for her.

[@godallowsuturns679]

She was bullied all her life and to top it all, the man she liked, wanted to stab her.

[@lilivonshtup3808]

💯

[@charmolettafranquestafiestayam]

She knew what she was getting into and then she got back into it and expected it to magically different. I don't feel sorry for her. There's only 9000 signs like "Im gonna stab youand kill you :) "

[@PaperMario64]

toast I hope you never get that lonely that you turn to people who you know will abuse and manipulate you.

[@Mypalpayton]

“Unless the deer were having a fancy dress party.” 😂 Mike you are very loved by your fans. I’m so happy I found your very fun and informative channel.

[@kingfarouk3468]

Great line. Vintage Mike brilliance..."the deer were having a fancy dress party.” Yeah, I hate it when the animals do that too.

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

Yeah, most of us choose to have deer as neighbors because they are so quiet, but when they have their fancy dress parties, it is the noise level that is just uncalled for!

[@mollyhorse]

@@user-jy3zl2vp4b love it!

[@lesliewatson3391]

Thank you Mike for remembering the lonely and the vulnerable.

[@stefw46]

Best cure for quarantine boredom. Thank you Mike.

[@user-on7hj4yq9i]

kiki Agree 😄👌🏼

[@mariagrace3748]

Yup!!!! 😁

[@stefw46]

@Stupid-Steve I'm a Patreon, I get early access to videos!

[@laalaag2auntyayag776]

The Useless Username Haha- “SHEEPOLE”? Ooooooookay, ‘nuff said about you

[@trkn5681]

The murdered victim would be thrilled to know you were entertained by her death.

[@trinzy3000]

Ugh this story makes me so sad. I’m the same age as her when she was murdered and I bet she only put up with his requests because she was so lonely and any attention was better than no attention for her. What a tragic end to a life full of hardships 😞.

[@azuredystopia3751]

She was so lonely, and was unlucky enough to cross paths with a horrible brute of a man. RIP.

[@gnomesb]

And it sounds like she was trying to assert herself and state what she wanted. Unfortunately she misunderstood how much he despised her.

[@LucasM987]

@@gnomesb I don't think he despised her, I think he had no care or empathy. He just wanted to kill. If it wasn't her he'd look for someone else.

[@levitatingoctahedron922]

coming from someone who has some awareness of the scene these people are in she was obviously super into it or she wouldn't be picking up things like "slave phones" and lol, fucking seeing him after the things that he said. a quality sub protests and acts like they don't want it in order to excite more extreme demands and responses from the dom. this was obviously very consensual, it has just been presented here with a strong bias to villainize the man. I don't think he deserved the level of punishment that he received.

[@levitatingoctahedron922]

@@gnomesb no, she's just trying to get a dominant reaction out of him. I've seen it a million times. she fucking went to his house after he's telling her she wants to stab her and shit, multiple times. how dense can you be she was very into it.

[@pinkroxysouthmead]

Best thing about this is the Irish accent my families from Ireland I could listen to it all day

[@louisetaite286]

Very sad story. Very close to home as she was my daughters class assistant around the time. It was very shocking and very upsetting to see all the awful things that the papers wrote. They just hopped on it as they do here. I always felt so awful for her family having to not only deal with what happend but to have it so public. RIP elaine

[@larry-naylor]

Honestly I think that the two most distressing parts of this story are Elaine's obvious vulnerability and the fact that her body was left to the wild animals. It's just so sad and undignified and Elaine deserves so much better. Rest in peace beautiful lady.

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

And I guess a distant third is the fact that she died.

[@TawnyC_]

"If anything happened to you, who knows about me?" He's telling her right there, he's gonna kill her.

[@mommajesus]

Bone chilling. 😟

[@soxpeewee]

That and he literally said it and had beat and stabbed her before.

[@BirdyMum]

rule number one of any BDSM hook ups (especially if they could potentially be heavier than you would like) is to make sure that someone knows where you are and who with. Any supposed Dom or Master who is unwilling to let their sub share that information is just one giant red flag. Of course the predators in the community deliberately choose the lonely and isolated ones, or will manipulate you into keeping them quiet because of "their privacy".

[@alanleemaxwell831]

Pure evil...

[@dontreply8346]

@@BirdyMum You look too young to know about this stuff.

[@Hebiscus998]

“See it’s an Irish thing >:(“ 😂❤️

[@DaRkHoRsE-_-]

That would be ting 🤩

[@philiptucker7590]

Aye Fella, tis an Irish Ting ☘️

[@evmcelroy]

@@philiptucker7590 what is so funny is that after your comment KZbin put “Translate to English.”

[@Erebus.666.]

@@DaRkHoRsE-_- I was just thinking the same

[@lady_k5588]

Your accent is practically American compared to these boys that found the bag.

[@domvazquez7826]

💰💰💰

[@Thehermitist]

Umm no

[@WeinerPanda]

@@Thehermitist I don't think you get it..

[@Thehermitist]

@@WeinerPanda probably not

[@lordhelix2760]

@@Thehermitist it's the fact his accent isn't very strong compared to people in this video

[@BomChickyBowWow]

“They only found two turds of her body” has a very different meaning here in the states

[@banjopete]

Creepy Dingus , Many tings do!

[@HopelessSinner]

Creepy Dingus Not just in the US !

[@paulcolbourne9112]

She moosta shite herself.

[@mar6488]

Two out of Tree, that's right

[@RemyDarling]

I genuinely laughed like an idiot. But it brings a little humour to a very dark story, which is why I appreciate Mike and his accent so much. :)

[@nicole4508]

I really respect how Ireland handled this case. American or Canadian police would have written this off as a suicide. Not only did the Garda do a great job the Irish media was very compassionate to Elaine's situation and did not shame her. They also didn't allow Dwyer's social class as a wealthy architect to depict him as anything but the disgusting monster he is. Thank you Ireland and RIP Elaine O'Hara.

[@mathewhex7045]

They seem a more thoughtful, reasoned people not so quick to action

[@paulcolbourne9112]

@Angry Hippo Why? You don't enjoy good stories, songs and jokes?

[@mariaking6588]

Dwyer's social class as a wealth architect . WHAT [ social class?] [wealth architect?] he was just a fucking mad bastard

[@nicole4508]

@@mariaking6588 I meant wealthy.

[@mariaking6588]

@@nicole4508 I meant mad bastard

[@VLCSmoker]

Is it bad that every night I fall asleep to your vids but don’t have bad dreams about the stuff I hear 😂

[@nicolejohnson9768]

Same... I was telling my daughter when she plays anime in my room and I fall asleep I have weird or bad dreams. I look at these all day and nothing.

[@evmcelroy]

No, but I find that I have to periodically stop watching true crime vlogs because after a few, I simply no longer have any trust in human beings. I have to stop for a while...

[@celestialknight2339]

@@evmcelroy Haha very true, same here. It’s all about balance. Too much of this (or anything) is bad for your health

[@TreeCity43]

Damn if I seen her crying I would have lent her my shoulder. So sad I wish I could help anyone ever bullied, such an amazing person that deserved alot more from life

[@normacook8325]

Self quarantined in a shut down town...been looking forward to 🌳 o'clock!

[@ThatChapter]

Stay safe!

[@biscuitgidoni2804]

Awe man.. I want to have been Elaine's friend so badly.. I know what it's like to struggle with depression and feel alone.

[@johnselwitz5362]

I’m the same way but I promise it gets better, just keep your head up and always move forward

[@andreabobbette825]

🤗

[@shishkebab5306]

Same. Hope your situation has got better. I wish you all the best and good luck for the future.

[@cocochanel1399]

Depression takes a strong hold. You are not alone - many of us struggle with the deeps and it will get better! Keep taking your meds, talk to your counselor and even when you don’t want to, reach out to your friends - they love you!! I know mine hate it when i fall off the radar bc i dont want to let them know I’m blue. You are loved - chin up because you are magnificent. Love and health from MN

[@CristinaCee]

I really felt that. I had the same thought learning about her life. Just being her friend. This was very sad.

[@ashleyrose379]

I heard this case before, but I learned so much more about it from you. Crazy. I love how in depth you go.

[@24greenie]

Oh goodness, I do love to listen to the Irish. One of my favorite accents.

[@sofiedouglas757]

Dialects!

[@24greenie]

@@sofiedouglas757 Either can work. I enjoy different accents (how one pronounces the word) as well as dialects (which is how it includes not just pronunciations but also vocabulary and grammer). In the US accents are used as if you are from the deep south compared to Southern speech. But if you are happy to read my mind and feel superior in changing my thoughts.. enjoy it . As I do not get into yammering with such "superior " people as you. I will not respond to you over this matter again.

[@edzoe6217]

"either the deer were having a fancy dress-party or that ain't no deer" LMAO Mike, it doesn't get any better than you guy!

[@spudmurphy9264]

Absolutely hilarious isn't he. The best !

[@SusanWillful]

My favorite part for sure!

[@dagonpoint]

I spat out my coffee with that line.

[@caseylynnlittle]

Agreed!!! Love it!

[@SueMead]

*+edzoe 621* How bout; "two turds" and then, "holy shit!" The boy has a way with words, or should I say 'wurts'?

[@samisiarc]

No matter how crazy the world gets we can always count on Mike to come out with awesome content. 💚💚

[@ThatChapter]

Thanks Samantha!

[@chasiah7101]

That Chapter thanks mike for another one 👍 love from scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@treewitch666]

Samantha Garber the world doesn’t get crazy, we do. Just chill out.

[@clairebyrne1725]

Let's hope that he do more especially if we get stuck in

[@reddoguk7405]

When jumping in bed to chill to bit of KZbin I get a warm fuzzy feeling when I see a new one of Mikey's :)

[@paulcatlovercanavan1633]

Dude, I love what you're doing. We need more decent content from Irish creators. Well done!

[@tinawindham6958]

When we have the best…we don’t need the rest😉✌️

[@tinawindham6958]

Darcy was a lucky and intuitive young lady. I hope you are thriving , Darcy wherever you are and living your best life!

[@TheSanctionextremis]

Imagine feeling so alone that you'd sell yourself short and allow someone to stab you just to believe you're wanted... Poor woman.

[@bondeappetite703]

Sanction Extremis mental health n no support in UK is awful

[@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath]

@@bondeappetite703 Ireland is not in the UK man.

[@jml6263]

@Willem Chastity If you legit think sex is 'stabbing with cock' I actually am quite worried. If you were trying to make a joke, I am only slightly less worried.

[@laurielovett8849]

Unfortunately Elain was quite a plain looking lady,in a world that now treasures beauty above everything else, not searching for pity,but a plain or ugly girl leads a very dull lonely life,some get kuckt ,but most forego what other girls get as their rights, boyfriends, dates, proposals, engagements, marriage, loving husband and family, grandkids etc. I'm ugly I missed all this, and its no ones fault,but I can sympathise with Elain, had probably grown fond of the guy, and hoped to eventually get him away from the weird stuff. Don't blame her,Blame him,as regards phone records used in evidence,why not.

[@bm-ww8kb]

yeah... no she didnt allow him to stab her. he stabbed her to death when she wasnt even interested in any blood play. he just murdered her... the same as it would be had he stabbed someone else to death. she didnt allow, settle, sacrifice, or any other words that make it seem like she was in charge of not being killed that day.

[@Fluttershiez]

I've been binge-watching all of Mike's videos due to this quarantine (and I must have seen them all 2 or 3 times already).

[@ThatChapter]

I'll need to up my game!

[@XyraSelene]

Hell yeahhhh!!

[@kellyc2425]

@@ThatChapter that would be great. The wife and I have binge watched them all, and now we're back to repeats. ☹️

[@mikaelvasararadiopromo9758]

Me too

[@charlottewebb5987]

I kno i love him and his videos

[@ginnykang943]

"I didn't really know what footage to use, so just use your imagination." A part of me is slightly disappointed, but the other part is relieved. 😅

[@zensbleexperience3470]

"Two Turds" you're killing me Mike 💙🦋💚

[@Claire-77]

Rest in peace dear Elaine, poor girl was so vulnerable.

[@baryaakov555]

Imagine releasing a murderer because you violated his privacy to prove he’s a murderer.

[@CAHSR2020]

Sounds like the primary incompatibility is the lack of a warrant, which in theory should have been possible with the other non-phone evidence, but without a precise and specific timeline it's hard to be certain.

[@gloomycandy101]

on the rocks with salt You sound like a dumbass. Do you know how impossibly hard it is to exonerate someone in prison?

[@nacho_ncam]

@@gloomycandy101 exactly! You took the words out of my mouth. As if the US justice system would EVER let "brown killers" out of prison bc kim K (of all people) is on a crusade. Ignorant af!

[@Marie.b]

@M J the EU is not trying to use any law. They are simply reviewing the legislation and questioning how states use information that is legally stored. Ie are the police allowed to take that information and use it to prosecute someone. Why ? Because The defence team had said any right to use stored data was made invalid the the EU court of justice in 2014.

[@addie_is_me]

Violating a persons rights is very serious. The cops are the ones to blame. We here in the US had hundreds of years of innocent people convicted until alleged perps got rights. It’s a little better now.

[@nicholelove4008]

It’s crazy how i watch episode after episode. So sad how these people have died, it’s so many of them. i guess we can’t all die from disease, accidents, natural causes, i never even thought of that until i started watching Mike

[@THEFRISKIESTDINGO]

“Tease were found in two-towsend tert-teen. Dey contained coding.” I love the accent on that police chief

[@elizamary1595]

Imagine being married to someone you love, having children with them & then discovering that they are leading a double life. Even more shocking that they have committed murder. My heart breaks for Elaine, she clearly just wanted love and companionship 😭

[@Sheepwillbesheep]

The fact that he had a room “office” in his house that nobody was allowed enter should be enough warning for any partner in a relationship

[@epizzle9232]

@@Sheepwillbesheep seriously! Anyone that has something like that, clearly is hiding a whole side of themselves that wouldn’t be accepted by the average person.

[@FC-hj9ub]

Who could love him, he was nauseating just to look at... what a vulnerable stats Elaine must have been on that day when she left rhe hospital

[@TallulahFoxxx]

@@Sheepwillbesheep Not necessarily 🤔 some people like privacy for hobbies. I have two personal examples. My grandad needed something to do in retirement so he started building and hand painting model aeroplanes 😂 if anyone has ever had a family member with this hobby, I’m sure they’ll agree - they’re CRAZY about no one touching anything 😂🤦🏼‍♀️ the models are so fiddly and fragile, he was constantly worried someone would break something and that would be weeks of work down the drain 😂🤦🏼‍♀️ He worked out of his old office and the rule was no one was allowed in EVER (it was locked) including my grandma (she was the most clumsy woman 😂💕). It was only if he was with us we were allowed in to look: “you look with your eyes, not your hands!” was his favourite thing to snap if any of us tried to pick something up 😂💕 The other example: my dad’s office was always locked and we weren’t allowed in it. He was high ranking military, then when he retired he worked for the Ministry of Defence. I guess he had things that were important that shouldn’t be messed with lol. Ever since he fully retired though, it was cleared and now my mam uses it for sewing 😂 Long story short, I think it’s all down to context. Lots of people have legit reasons for having rooms no one is allowed in. I bet many of these women who have husbands with locked rooms were told legitimate reasons for it (like my examples) 🤔 It wouldn’t have seemed odd until they found out they weren’t using it for what they claimed.

[@usethenoodle]

It's amazing how Mike's deliver has changed from some of his earlier videos. He has grown much more lively and comfortable in front of his camera. Great stuff and fun to watch his delivery. Keep em coming Mike!

[@ilsamiller8291]

Yes! His initial videos remind me of my public speaking class...you must speak in phrases that give people time in between to absorb the info. But yes, he has blossomed into an amazing presenter!!!

[@usethenoodle]

@@ilsamiller8291 I had someone reply in a different comment about Mike and I wish I could find it but it was pretty derogatory. Something like "here we goo. In this aul video, another round of my cutsie sarcastic crap". My first thought was "Why do you watch then?" "You are the one who clicked on???" He's probably dedicated his life to hitting the thumbs down button on everyone's videos while contributing none of his own to the cause. I have a small channel and I know what it takes to make a video. It is an investment of hours. The dinking with cameras while you are working on something, batteries die and take more time to change. Shots don't come out. Clips get lost. The lighting is bad. Then the editing process. That is a real frustration. It's complicated software and very time consuming. I'm just a nobody and I'm not monetized so what I put up is just for the benefit of a very few. I figure if I do a project and a video helps someone do it easier and successfully, then it's worth it. I have less than 250 subscribers. I don't post a lot. I use other peoples videos to great success when I have an issue I'm trying to solve, so I know the value. But to sit back with never having gone through making and editing a video, then hit the down button is ridiculous. If you don't like a channel, don't go there, or click off to someplace else. I couldn't care less. I make zero money doing it. My desire isn't to be a full time KZbinr. I was surprised this person (jerk) would type that comment but it seems KZbin is as filthy a sewer as Twitter sometimes when it comes to comments. I'm amazed at the profanity and name calling, even threats between total strangers! It's like road rage. I have even had a few dark comments and I'm a really narrow focus... usually DIY mechanical information. I love Mike's style and I never miss an episode. He cracks me up. I'm in real life a bit sarcastic as well so he makes me laugh. And I always hit the thumbs up. Warmest regards, Craig

[@stephaniesampson8441]

Wow, what I piece of shit whomever that person was that was dogging/shutting on Mike's personality. I love everything about Mike so screw that scumbag for saying anything negative about the guy I have an internet crush on, lol

[@launabanauna496]

@@usethenoodle Unfortunately, some people are just permanently miserable, and they become internet trolls. I think the best thing we can do is just ignore them, and not give them the attention that they are seeking/and or report them if they are breaking any rules.

[@wineberry6]

Agree 💯!!

[@willelliott5052]

Poor girl. How sad that she turned to such depraved means to find love.

[@kathleensmith644]

I don’t think she turned, I think she was already like that. But she eventually realised that their relationship was bad. Very bad for her. To think she wanted a baby when she was such a mess.

[@laurielovett8849]

If he is soon released from prison I don't know what to sat,go to another country where none knows him,he will again go on his merry way. There was a lotto be said for the noose

[@Dillonwrx]

Its not the fact you are so great at making these videos but the fact that most people will have never heard of the people involved. So it's really great for the families and the people who were victims to get their chance of becoming known and their story of being told. Keep up the good work, not just for the viewers but for the victims.

[@flushthecatnip]

I know this is heavy subject matter. But 'No diggity no doubt' made me spit out my wine

[@realisticpenguin7003]

@LeChatteNoir Me too!!!! I was like, did he just quote Blackstreet? 😎

[@SavageMinnow]

That’s the kind of thing that makes me love this channel

[@Treedaful]

I get you sister.

[@juliecooper3989]

The....unless the deer were having a fancy dress party when dogs brought bones with clothes on them made me laugh out loud....it's a very sad case though.

[@bossdillman7011]

Man on fire thus ol video

[@sahdi2910]

Cannot imagine the pain his wife and kids had in finding the monster he was

[@nodiggity9472]

His Wife knew, or at least suspected.

[@cpldalton5966]

No Diggity that’s not true

[@cpldalton5966]

Yeah it was tough for them.

[@LKre-vi5oq]

One of the more disturbing cases I have ever heard. It sticks to you with a glue of sorrow and shock. Poor woman being preyed on by this greedy, disgusting bastard.

[@lexiaaforever437]

18 Years … That’s a weak sentence. He deserved more than that especially for killing an innocent woman who just wanted to be loved .

[@dawnbreak3299]

Mike : " they only found two turds...." Me : " 🤨🤔 " Mike : ".....of her body" Me : " oh yea Mike's accent "

[@dawnbreak3299]

@Cynthia Baker good👍

[@maggieliz333]

SAME 😂

[@stephhhie17]

@Cynthia Baker Technically 66.66666% 😂 he could also say that Turdy-tree point tree tree tree percent was missing!

[@orangehoof]

Must have made it difficult to obtain forensic evidence.

[@km4227]

I pray no one ever finds only 2 turds worth of my body

[@alexhartman6144]

Thank you for the content. My business of 27 years was shut down yesterday. Had to file for unemployment for the first time. Your channel is the only thing keeping me distracted and my spirit up ❤️

[@marys3127]

Alex Hartman - yeah, it is rough. My husband is an independent contractor who travels and speaks to/teaches large groups of people in real estate. No work for the past three weeks, now could be months without any income. We can’t get unemployment because he isn’t an employee. Hang in there, we will all survive. 👊🏻👊🏻

[@megan0217]

Good luck, Alex. Best to you.

[@comonena]

Hey Alex, Im so sorry about your business. Just wanted to tell you that everything will turn out ok. Take care!

[@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263]

Prayers for you brother. I hope this starts a new and even better chapter in your life.

[@alexhartman6144]

Thanks so much everyone, I truly appreciate it. We will all get through this

[@4everfaithful32]

I really appreciate how you do these videos, and that you never show gore.

[@skatatataatje]

"I just want....... to pray for this man" Oh ffs...

[@cpldalton5966]

As an atheist, I respect her finding peace and a coping mechanism after hearing traumatic news

[@MoNehNeh17]

Cpl D'Alton thank you

[@bonniea.1941]

I was surprised it went that way too. She’s a better person than I am. 🤷‍♀️

[@misery6565]

Well, that man is unpleasant

[@longwhitemane]

😂😂😂😂

[@misery6565]

@Stupid-Steve Patreon supporters get early access :)

[@w13t49]

I want early access misery

[@X100People]

*quarantine me all you want, I have episodes of That Chapter to catch up on*

[@breigesheppard8339]

I know your Case is so sad.But you make me laugh you r amazing 💓 you never go away 👌🏻👍☘️☘️☘️🇮🇪

[@katie3336]

I feel a lot more sad and heavy hearted after watching this That Chapter ... I don't know if it's because it feels closer to home because I'm Irish or what 😌

[@David-mb5co]

Xfinity, Disney plus, Netflix, Hulu. I have all of them mike. Yet I’d rather be here watching your videos. Every video is done in such a great way I’m hooked everytime. Keep it up sir!

[@LaLaLonna]

Same.

[@suisei9040]

@@LaLaLonna He has that charrm. A bit of fun trolling (His intros), but always respectful towards the victims.

[@Mithrandir69]

Yeah, but you don't have Pornhub.

[@manakahas4927]

Cancel a sub for a random one every month, write them on strips of paper; close your eyes and pick. Save some cash my friend.

[@terrinooner1283]

My heart goes out to Elaine's family. Graham is a POS to prey on these vulnerable women. Scary that this monster may be released. Great content as always Mike. Thank you Sir and stay safe.

[@BB-xq8mk]

This one of the saddest episodes. RIP, dear Elaine.

[@kaiswindells7401]

Poor Poor Elaine - I have depression, anxiety and possible bpd so I really feel for her :(

[@TheSoaperstar]

Such a horrible and sad story. They both lived locally to me, my friend knew her quite well. She was manipulated by him because she just wanted to be loved so desperately. I felt so awful for his wife and kids. I hope to God he won't be released because, if he is, there's no doubt he'll do it again. Thanks for covering this Mike.

[@dmreddragon6]

It is good to see that I am not alone in thinking not only of the poor woman, and her family, but his family. His poor children have probably been picked on for their sick, twisted father.

[@frankboff1260]

Chances are she wasn’t the first...

[@babybluecheeks]

It's always unsettling when they only find parts of the victims bones, knowing that this person will never be laid to rest properly.

[@whitebloodism]

@babybluex I like to believe that finding remains and understanding what happened to someone is what lays someone to rest, a ceremony with loved ones or people that know what happened with respect is enough to place someone at ease. After all the body is only our physical self which all goes back into the earth eventually.

[@xlnuniex]

My boyfriend was found dead after being missing for six days. He was supposed to move from his several month stay in Florida back here to Jersey four days before he was found. There was no opened casket. The investigator emailed me the autopsy. It was horrific. More questions than answer. Even though his body was found, we don’t know exactly what happened. It’s the not knowing that really sucks. It would’ve definitely been a huge help to my grief if his body was in well enough condition to have a wake and say goodbye. Not seeing Justin that final time while not knowing what happened is tough

[@jenniferh7297]

Lauren Christie Jesus! That's awful, I'm so sorry😔

[@RomTheLegend]

I love Mike’s humour! Lol I think that’s why I place him at the top of these crime story channels. He makes a lot of this sick shit bearable 😐

[@vikkiwilkins1646]

Thanks Mike for managing to walk the very thin line of telling harrowing stories with humour injected and all whilst being respectful of victims - I’m addicted to these videos 👍 great job

[@charmmaeonineza1501]

"I don't really know what footage to use, so just use your imagination" Mike-ism is dope 😂

[@janetwestwood9194]

👨‍🏫👈👀🪝🤡⛓👍

[@violet640]

Mike is so tactful. A true gentleman . 💕 💕 him.

[@cjmchugh6917]

Dude. I wasn’t prepared for the diabeetus pronunciation. My useless pancreas and I both appreciated that.

[@sp1cyn0va35]

I loved that too lmao

[@bradhobbs6196]

Wilford Brimley approves

[@janetwestwood9194]

😆😅🤣

[@mmaeiouu4147]

i swear there are so many of these i can’t stop watching them. it just keeps going this is wonderful. 🙇‍♀️

[@christyhoehn8244]

IMO Mike cusses in all the right places.... I love it!

[@littlemisseatscrispsforbre5353]

God that's so sad. Poor woman was so vulnerable, I felt so bad for her. It's really heartbreaking.

[@catcrawford4081]

Oh my gosh, she just wanted to be loved and treated like a human being... 💔

[@sweetjesusirock]

You're the best Mike. The best at tastefully lightening up some heavy shit & giving facts & info in a nicely wrapped

[@gogonog]

dame good job mikie you deserve all the good that is happening to your channel..hats off kind sir!!

[@sheoneill7413]

I'll never forget this sordid story , I still can't believe the media at that time , were allowed to keep making shit out of that lady Elaine. It still annoys me & I've never bought a red top paper since .

[@christinagraham7959]

What do you mean keep making stuff out of her? Just curious

[@sheoneill7413]

@@christinagraham7959 the media kept on about her more than him . They made out she was a friendless , unintelligent, mental health sufferer . They made a huge deal about the bdsm & investigatived her life more than his . It was salacious news bites & at the time it was made look like she was nearly asking for it. His life was only uncovered at the trial . I felt so sorry for Elaine as her name was more highlighted than his in the media . She just struck me as a lonely vulnerable person & the tabloids reported on her past mental health struggles & as a victim, she deserved to be treated as such x

[@FlameFlickers]

@@sheoneill7413 That's not my memory of how the case was treated in the media at all but, I rarely read the tabloids, so maybe that's why. Everything I read and saw was hugely sympathetic to Elaine and digging into his past to expose anything they could find. They did all focus heavily on the BDSM aspect but that's hardly surprising given the public appetite for salacious details. This case was in many ways a news providers wet dream - it had the sexual element, the rich, high powered male controlling the vulnerable female and his subsequent fall from grace, the shattered wife left to pick up the pieces, the lurid details of their master/slave phone communications. They even had TV clips of the perpetrator having previously worked on TV design shows. And, if the weather hadn't been so good that Summer, he might well have gotten away with what he thought was the perfect murder.

[@Kat.Evangeline]

'Life' should be more than 18 years!

[@Rosie-co9wb]

I'm from Ireland. I remember the nonstop coverage of this case in 2012, when I was ten. It's really what sparked my interest in true crime

[@deathbeforedishonorb6629]

I love that no matter what the blooper is... Mike never edits it out well as far as we can tell!!!!

[@theflowerwhosavedtheuniver5658]

Yea our sentences are a joke here in Ireland, North and South. Not just for murder, but for rape, child abuse etc. My heart goes out to Elaine and those who loved her. She was just looking for love and friendship. Hope she's resting in peace and that he rots in hell when his time is up. Well done Mike as usual. Good to see one from home

[@aSinisterKiid]

I'd like to imagine there some's fancy deer trottin around the forest in nice pants and a jacket

[@christianvolland9194]

aSinisterKiid 😂

[@christianvolland9194]

Reminds me of that fantastic mr fox movie

[@les_5184]

Hahahahaha

[@interestsvary5014]

I’d say a nice short skirt and jacket...to allow for more movement.

[@anaderol5408]

😂😂 How I wish I lived near a hunting area - it would be great fun dressing up some deers - something saucy and lacy that does not restrict movement and won't hurt the deer in any way but oh how it would mess with the mind of the average hunter.

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

Sounds like Elaine had a difficult life with many struggles. RIP. ❤️

[@oldfan1963]

17:50 - Does Elaine HAVE a family? She seems to have been utterly alone.

[@uyoebyik]

She had a father for definite. The father must have been a bit clueless though. Why did he keep letting her end up a psychiatric hospital instead of being a father?

[@laurielovett8849]

She had a dad and sister who,were very, very good to her.

[@laurielovett8849]

@@uyoebyik She needed treatment in a hospital,she slit her wrists several times. Her dad ,poor man, he was damned if he did,damned if he didn't, also had his wife very I'll with terminal cancer

[@MarkToast99]

Darcy was in serious danger from this guy and has every reason to detest him, and her first instinct is to realize that he needs help and ask for help from a higher power that she believes will prove that help to him. She is an incredibly good person

[@shivasgirl1609]

Happy St. Patrick's Day to Mike and all his viewers!

[@ThatChapter]

Happy Paddys Day!

[@orls9068]

Cheers you too!

[@evelynmitchell8799]

And a Happy Birthday to her ❤️😔

[@kathedison3887]

Same to you..hope all of that chapter family is all and well..

[@mrs.dr.spencerreid3992]

That Chapter - Love ya Mike! ❌⭕️ 🍀from Karen, Antioch, Illinois USA 🇺🇸

[@cdd4248]

It is Always the Dog Walker...I walk my dogs every day just waiting...

[@billhart3728]

And joggers. So if you jog with dogs I think your chances go up.

[@Lucysays]

Lol ..just waiting! I laughed but if u ever come across something...yikes!

[@FabZvjezdan7982]

@@billhart3728 if he/she goes for a leisurely jog on a hiking trail with the dogs the odds rise exponentially. If a bit of mushroom pickings involved as well theyre like 90% sure of finding a body.

[@cdd4248]

@@FabZvjezdan7982 hahahahaha! I am a she and that is funny!

[@janetwestwood9194]

🐕🏃‍♂️ 👈👀👉 🤏🍄

[@bethanymarshall9291]

Mike, it’s great to see a fellow like yourself thriving. I too am from Irish decent, my father was Irish. I have never been to Ireland, but will visit one day. Being from MA, I can appreciate old history.

[@k8marlowe]

The Gardai did an outstanding job investigating this case. The officer who persistently searched the reservoir day after day should be commended, as well as the fishermen who initially found and turned in the evidence. Many would have tossed those things aside. Sundance has a really good documentary about this case.

[@paxsmile]

It’s so disturbing to realize how apparently normal people hide such dark alter egos, ready to leap out of obscurity and into the obscene realm of never more..

[@peggygreeby5065]

You're so right. Sometimes I'm glad I'm old, and not 'looking for love', you don't know who to trust, these monsters don't look outright psycho, and by the time you see the real person, it's too late.

[@NewStarConstellation]

@@peggygreeby5065 That is not necessarily true. Most disturbed persons give clues quite early on that something is not right with them. But you have to be informed about what to look for. Luckily, a lot of stuff is out there to be easily accessed on the Internet.

[@paulcolbourne9112]

I'd say this woman had plenty of signs to see. Most of the time it's about knowing the environment and situation you're in, the kind of people you're with and how to handle the situation effectively. Be smart and you'll be fine or be paranoid and just don't live at all.

[@virginiaviola5097]

Yeah. I’ve learned to look at people with great skepticism, especially people with titles and power and seemingly faultless exterior lives. So many people present as something that they are not, there are a lot of sick and twisted people out there. I no longer trust a living soul.

[@ticopunkerz]

How does someone mistake human remains for deer bones? Good thing that the woman's dog was persistent and kept bringing back bones until she finally figured it out.

[@vegemitesandwich81]

If the bones have been scavenged by animals or partially buried in a hunting area you would assume it's animal remains....

[@IrishBecci89]

Because this happened in Ireland. We don’t automatically think of dead bodies as murder is rare

[@XyraSelene]

INERT Yes! I literally was expecting the dog to bring back a skull lol...

[@hossel1079]

So easy for you to say sat behind your keyboard with all the facts at hand

[@ticopunkerz]

@@hossel1079Maybe you're right...I hope I never have to be put in that situation, but if was I would go ahead and call the police because I'm not a forensic scientist and therefore would err on the side of caution and hope it turned out to be animal bones afterall.

[@Thehermitist]

She wanted love and a family. Poor woman. I hope she's with her mother now safe and sound. It's actually heartbreaking she couldn't find love and had to meet a monster like this pos

[@kittyhawk1255]

I will never forget this case. I always think about Elaine when Im in Shanganagh park and how she was feeling when she was waiting for that monster. She must have felt so alone.