The Ultimate Ender 3 - Creality Ender 3 V3 Plus

[@hrdcpy]

The under extrusion on the cheater test print reminds me of VWs diesel-gate situation.

[@hrdcpy]

Thanks for validating.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Oops, haha look how well it performed on this test! Lol? We didn’t do it on purpose, pinky swear

[@davidjiannotti1537]

My s1 plus had all sorts of bed issues. Had.. I put rails on the y and what a game changer. It had a wobble left to right. Also I thought the bed was warped. It wasn't.. when the rollers passed the frame bolts it was causing the bed to tilt up. Linier rails for y on plus printers change everything. Also got a glass bed.

[@KAKAFU]

I bought the K1C .. so I'm good for awhile BUT might also get the MAX next ..lol

[@jameskellam2980]

You kept talking about the size of bed slingers, but I did not hear the size of prints this printer makes. I may have missed it, if so, sorry. Ok. i saw it at 5:20. Great video btw.

[@mortenkallesen923]

Looks like what the S1 Plus should have been.

[@anthonyz.4560]

An idea to solve the screen is maybe print a bracket to move the screen to the side of the bed with an ribbon cable extension.

[@MattPD]

FYI I just recently got a standard size ender 3 v3, and the top holes for the spool holder are missing on this rev. Spool clamp thing is injection moulded now too.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Interesting. It looks like they stopped drilling that out to save cost. It sort of makes sense as it would require an additional setup in a CNC machine to perform that operation, and isn't exactly a feature that people are looking for when cross-shopping. But on the Plus, since it has the braces to make the vertical frame super stiff, it totally makes sense to put the spool holder up there. Hopefully they come around to the idea.

[@heatedpoolandbar]

My understanding is the filament run out sensor only detects a change in state so you might not need filament in there at all and or be able to leave it disconnected. I'd love to know the answer for sure. Also, I'm excited about this printer and I want to buy it but I think I should wait maybe 6 months for software and publicly available profiles and tweaks to catch up.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

It’s a limit switch just like any other it can tell if it’s on or off. But if they implemented firmware to only care about state changes, that would be neat

[@monsterstorm78]

Do ya still use this printer and if so this printer worth buying

[@NotDoingThisToday]

Looking forward the one and only printer from Nathan in a few years!

[@TNX255]

You mean the NBR Quadrupolar Express Pro V1 Basic SE Chunky It Just Works MAX?

[@KennethScharf]

Core XZ makes more sense when implemented with two towers with independant up and down movements connected via actuators like a Delta printer.

[@s.leegooding1827]

If your filament is under extruding, why not do the flow calibration? That's not an issue with the printer. As long as the extruder isn't skipping that will fix your issue. So the real issue is that the filament profile isn't dialed in well. BUT, if we are looking at the printer from the end user perspective then Creality's own filament profiles need to be correct. That is a definite issue.

[@petercallison5765]

The Neptune 4 Max has no problem with a speed benchy but does it at 20 minutes (you really need to check layer height and number of walls for a proper comparison). the acceleration is only 8000 but this will print more than twice the speed of the CR M4.

[@sevagjb]

thanks Nathan, very honest review

[@svengeres92]

Have it next to the A1 and P1P. Needed it for the size but straight lined walls are cleaner on the A1 and P1P. Probably because of the wobbly head of the V3 plus. Any change we can change the rods for carbon to make it stiffer like on the P1P?

[@The-Soulless]

Hey man, does the quality get better if you turn down the speed to a normal speed? Or should i put more money into it and buy the k2 plus?

[@IvanJoel]

Great video! Looking forward to the Mmu3 video. Someone really needs to make a better solution to hold all the filament spools though.

[@raphofthehills4405]

Very disappointed that no fan was thrown over the balcony and replaced by a 4x larger Noctua inserted by force through a nibbler-hacked hole... But, to be fair, within a few minutes we saw drilling into the chassis to relocate the spool 😅 So there's that !

[@25252525etrexft]

If creality makes the bed lighter it may lead to warping issues or it would be a very expensive BED slinger.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Why don’t they just make it out of carbon fiber 🥸

[@sergiogonzalez6915]

@@NathanBuildsRobots I'm making it out of carbon fiber, we'll see

[@SuperYanhan]

i skip V3 and V3 plus, gonna go for K2 max

[@3DandTeePrinting]

209 hours on it and other than the noisy stepper driver at slower speeds it has been great.

[@ddano007]

Thanks for review, can You share more details about Your spool location modification?

[@countryboy4247]

If the printer profile isn’t in the slicer, did you just edit the bed size in the slicer? Purchased this printer end of week last week and expecting it to arrive end of the week

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I made a custom profile based on the K1 which is the same size. It’s annoying that they don’t have everything figured out for their customers from day 1

[@countryboy4247]

@@NathanBuildsRobots can you share your profile settings?

[@MrBaskins2010]

they could solve the bed blade issues by putting a long metal tab on the left of the bed. most users are right handed and the screen is on the right side of the printer

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I like that idea. But still, the screen is in a bad spot since the bed moves directly over it

[@das250250]

The flow is proportional to the print plastic, it is tunable for each spool and for each type / brand. I am not sure it is a function of the machine ?

[@artplus5757]

About that plate hitting your hand... why not using it via wi-fi. Only thing I use the display for is to retract filament when I'm changing spools...

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I don't like messing around with wi-fi. But the wifi integration on all the latest creality products is very good

[@arnaudcochin3854]

Don't you think this can be a good basis for a slidding bed 3D printer with a tool changer. The speed on Z can be a true advantage (considering the tool bar may be on top of the gantry). My dream: bringing tool changing for every printer architecture.

[@ArmedVapor]

That thing must be huge to get your head through it. Lol

[@MrUniq]

As of this date, Microcenter is running a massive discount on the regular Ender3 v3 .. I got mine for 279...so I guess this plus verssion is the reason why. I mainly got it because they are klipper based machines, I assume I'll eventually be able to take full control of it software wise...and it's kind of a bargain for the all the included parts.

[@ToxicXzombieG]

Replacing the bed carriage and heat bed with a carbon fiber plate would speed it up a good amount

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Yeah it would be a speed demon with a carbon bed mod

[@ToxicXzombieG]

@NathanBuildsRobots I'm doing it on my max neo and I doubt it would be more than 150-175 for both the bed carriage, bed and a bed heater the lh stinger has a custom flex pcb heater that if scaled up would be better than a silicone heater

[@GFreeman7]

Could you elaborate more on moving the spool holder? What size drill bits did you use?

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I think it’s using m4 or m5 bolts. Use the correct size for an M4 or M5 tapped hole in aluminum. If you drill it out slightly too big you can just use a nut to back the tapped hole and treat it like a through hole

[@GFreeman7]

@@NathanBuildsRobots Thank you!!

[@oldman1944]

They seem to be stuck in the era of 3D printers being for tinkerers who enjoy tuning flow rates and tightening all the screws. Times have changed thanks to Bambu, and it needs to be assembled and tuned properly out of the box from day 1.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

No necessarily, this was faster to assemble than the A1, and the setup and calibration is fully automated. The cable management and filament pathing works fine, but it is sort of lazy IMO

[@oldman1944]

@@NathanBuildsRobots Fair enough, but I'd argue that automated setup and calibration should deliver you a good print without intervention, not an under-extruded one, or on my Creality a z offset that is way too high for decent adhesion. These are simple, fundamental things that should be fixed in alpha versions, not shipped ones.

[@Declopse]

What is your opinion compared to the Bambu Lab a1 vs the Creality Ender 3 V3 Plus?

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

The Bambu A-what? Never heard of it...

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

But serious answer - A1 is tuned better out of the box, and a bit quieter, but 1 size class smaller, and has AMS lite option if you wanted to do multicolor. K1 is bigger (the bump from 256 to 300 is more significant than it sounds) and probably has higher max flow rate, (though I didn't test that in this video)

[@3DATHENS-qi1tu]

@@NathanBuildsRobots

[@artplus5757]

What's the filament you used for Benchy? It's sliced for HyperPLA!

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I used blue hyper PLA and white hyper PLA

[@jrmh096]

Hi, I am looking at this printer because i want to print tall props. you mean this still has Z banding issue ? I’m hoping it will solve the issue

[@limatronic]

Very nice review! thanks.

[@johnkavouras2355]

How does this compare to the Ender 3 V3 SE?

[@matejrifelj1299]

Any reason why I'd buy it instead of SV08?

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

TBH That is a really tough call. The Sv08 is a stellar deal right now, and is bigger. I will say, the Ender 3 V3 Plus has a much better user interface when its not tethered to a computer. Setting up Wi-Fi, browsing print jobs, loading up prints from a flash drive, etc. is all easier in this machine. Plus this looks better than the milk crate. But purely in a spec-war, and a modders perspective, I’d probably pick the SV-08

[@matejrifelj1299]

@@NathanBuildsRobots I appreciate your honesty. Thanks :)

[@andreasu.3546]

2:36 "He didn't write his name on here, that seems like a missed opportunity" - At the same time, there's a huge raised pod in the middle of the print that says "3D PRINTER TEST by Marian Trpkos". - Am I missing an inside joke here?

[@TNX255]

Perhaps the joke was that the name is very hard to see unless you enlarge the print that much? I'm just guessing though.

[@TheButchersbLock]

Very thorough video mate. 👍🇦🇺😊

[@darenlim1584]

Writing it on the print wasn't missed: 3D PRINTER TEST by Marián Trpkoš is what I can see at 2:43

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Oh, there it is. I was looking at the front face that says 3D PRINTING TEST

[@stephanbrenner3317]

does anyone know if a even larger version of the Ender 3 V3 is planned by creality? I mean something like 420mm x 420mm which what seems to be a common print bed size as other manufacturers show?

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

They have the CR-M4 which is 450x450. I made some great prints with it before giving it to someone. I doubt they'd make an Ender product like that, but maybe I'm wrong.

[@stephanbrenner3317]

@@NathanBuildsRobots yes I know this Printer. But it is quite expensive in comparison. Thanks for the reply.

[@petercallison5765]

I sell 3D printers and the Max models(Kobra 2 Max, Neptune 4 Max) are more popular than mid-size. So unless they update the Cr6 Max then really need to upsize this.

[@jorel973]

I have to ask if I heard you correctly, you use the 4 kg bin as a bed pan or does that mean something different in the USA ?

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Idk I keep my 3D printer beds in there

[@petercallison5765]

@@NathanBuildsRobots That is a relief to hear, almost as much relief as using a real bed pan.

[@kreinova2747]

How do we mod existing printers with K1C E3V3 series Unicorn nozzle. I would like to thinker with that. I replaced the hotend on my CR-10 SE before but was thinking if i upgrade it unicorn nozzle now there is no blob of death problem anymore

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

You would need a new hotend and heatsink. No idea if creality plans on making an upgrade kit for the older Ender

[@kreinova2747]

So if the connector is the same, or at least the specs is the same and mod that connector, then without different software or firmware for that extruder board, it might be possible right ?😂

[@speedy3d524]

Nice review

[@AndrewAHayes]

Have Creality claimed to have written this new version of Creality print from scratch like they claimed they wrote the first version, but was yet another fork of Cura? The Benchy gets its name from being a benchmark of QUALITY print. I don't see the point of the speed Benchy as you can't really determine the quality. Surely people should be trying to print the perfect Benchy as fast as possible

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I would tend to agree but companies like marketing by numbers. And I blame 24/7 printing for this 🤪

[@kitcarlson6033]

You seem more mellow.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@bjbbiker]

Do you know how to send the print directly to the printer? I have creality print hooked up and can monitor the print there, but is there a way to wirelessly send the exported g code from Orcaslicer to the printer via wifi? Right now i am just shuttling the gcode via a thumb drive. thanks

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

You can log into the printer using a web browser on the same network, you have to enter the printer's ip address into the address bar, and maybe a port like :8001 or something

[@bjbbiker]

@@NathanBuildsRobots thx

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

@@bjbbiker The latest version of Creality Print also works well, it is based on Orcaslicer and has a lot of built-in features for sending out prints over the wifi

[@KaitoKaze]

I can't find the slicer at all online, the 5.3 on github doesn't have the profile for V3 plus, do you have any link or file in your usb?

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I made a custom profile. It’s the k1 max profile but slower. Hit me up on discord if you want me to send it to you

[@DeviantFrogman]

I have this printer and my god it is LOUD. The squeaking at slow speeds is headache inducing.

[@martinskamla6789]

You ruined the print quality by moving a 1kg spool on top This massively increases vibrations of the frame

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

It’s not as big of a deal, print quality was good

[@CroIntr00X]

​@@NathanBuildsRobots Yea its good at the bottom or lower layers..try something diagonal or wide at the top 300+ mm

[@OctavioFerreiro-i7u]

How wide is it with the filament on

[@OctavioFerreiro-i7u]

Ordered one but not wanting to relocate the spool so hoping it’ll fit in my space please let me know thanx

[@HPY-Prints]

would love to try out creality prints 5 but no support for cr-10 smart pro or my little ender 3 v2

[@3DandTeePrinting]

Creality has said over next 2 to 3 weeks they will have their older line up in 5.0.4 release (current version is 5.0.3)

[@einsteind]

My only comment is that it's a bit ratterly, compared to the k1c

[@nathankean7968]

It may just be on my end but your share sale link didn’t work

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Yep, the whole site is broken right now. Yet another reason why aff links are the worst form of monetization.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Just went back up! 🪤

[@worthmor5146]

"#CrealityK2Plus"

[@nunovicente34]

Doing a review of a new printer and you already had to make mods to it, hmm

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Yeah, it’s probably fine in the stock setup but I like it a lot more this way.

[@TNX255]

You must be new here.

[@nunovicente34]

@@TNX255 im not 😅 but it would make sense to test it how he received no?

[@TNX255]

@@nunovicente34 On any other channel, yeah, but this is NBR, where things are done the NBR way!

[@Utseuski]

I expected a better technical review from Nathan who builds robots. What is an actual acceleration you tested that worked producing quality prints? What was a max actual extrusion rate (PLA, PETG, other) ? Presence of the vertical artifacts? Max bed temperature? Issue with under extrusion is funny since ALL printers should be fine tuned before actual reviews (except for Bambu with auto-tune?). Nathan, please do better technical reviews. This review is on the same level as 12 year old girl does on another channel - powers , up, prints => good :) ..... Please stop saying the bed printer hit you head, you mentioned this like 10 times. Thank you for the effort, please do better!

[@Seaofjitsu]

First comment is the best comment 🎉

[@joehimes9898]

No comment

[@lifegettingintheway2710]

Too much drama. If you get bopped on the head it is not the machine's fault.

[@worthmor5146]

"#CrealityK2Plus"