The ULTIMATE Guide For How To De-Power A Miata Steering Rack

[@portable112]

Watched it all, but I don't have a miata nor need a power steering delete :D

[@showtaito1075]

VtecasTV education

[@paulofoliveira]

+1 here 👍😀

[@hiddenkard3101]

Me too bro. I own a G35 and a 3000GT GTO. Both have heavy as shit steering already. The G35 is worse lol. At first i thought they had power steering problems. But the previous 3000GT owner told me sport cars have heavy steering because they give better stability at high speed and better accuracy when cornering. So i didn't bother asking about the G35 lol I know it has a 350z rack so it heavy as shit. Btw it might be better for sport driving racing but in parking lots it's a pain lol No your economy car with it light playstation like steering wheel is not a sports car. Talking to you corolla and cavalier owners with wings and muffler deletes lol

[@ore0690]

same lol

[@grahameverett2676]

Same except I have a Miata but it’s a base

[@diegoarteaga166]

underrated channel for the quality and work that goes into each video.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Much appreciated!

[@pawpatina]

#fact

[@joshuachandra6677]

TheCarPassionChannel most definitely thank you for your time and efforts

[@suicideshifting3765]

Diego Arteaga agreed! 🙏🏼

[@TeunS133N]

i love how the Engineers of Mazda made it so Easy to fix or modify the car! Always have fun working om the miata

[@_Gingium_]

You've made me change my mind! Definitely going to do this on myn, just went through a steering class at school where we took apart multiple racks so im relatively confident at doing it!

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

You got this!

[@drazlek]

You're tutorial videos are top notch. I replaced my water pump, seals and what not, all thanks to your video. Great quality and to the point. Wish your style was more widespread.

[@MorbidKitKat1]

greg b so smart

[@shoopdawooplazars]

its the Miata legend himself! Mr.Rice!

[@koolerthanapolarbear]

greg, your videos are fuckin top notch, so much good info... each one with a dollop internet humor. i dont even own a miata, but these videos are great to watch! keep up the great work

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Thanks!

[@alexchulzhanov]

I deleted my power steering, this video was super helpful and the car handles like a dream! One thing I would recommend is dialing down the caster when doing this, the same amount of caster you would want with power steering makes it very difficult to steer without it. I have about 3.5 degrees of caster (instead of 5-6 degrees) and it is much easier to steer now and still tracks straight on its own.

[@Nasonix2]

The real question is how well does it still counter steer on it's own when you take away that much castor... You want the steering to be able to find center on it's own if you experience oversteer and loose grip of the wheel, You don't always have perfect memory of where to turn towards after the wheel spins out of control from your grip. But with 5+ degrees of castor, you don't have to worry much about it because it will counter steer it self back straight.

[@MyOpinionMatterss]

I prob will never do this but watched the vid anyway because it was entertaining. :)

[@byronspencer539]

The combination of this video and my lack of budget to purchase another depowered rack has given me the confidence to do this myself.

[@goodeggproductions]

I want to thank you so much for this video. I just picked up a second NA and somebody borked the steering rack really bad. This gives me all the confidence to get in there, pull the rack and disassemble it to see if I can't rebuild it, and if not, at least get a replacement rack to make my steering possible again. I love KZbin and some of the contributors and content creators.

[@Itsthatguyyoudontknow]

I love how detailed you are and how you show everything step by step. Earned my sub.

[@KookiDowg]

I've done this steering rack conversion on an Rx7 FC and a 4th gen Prelude and I have to say it is hands down my favorite "mod". Probably not too much on the Prelude since its a heavier chassis but being able to feel the road helps me to know how to reenact to certain instances. Cant wait to do this on my Miata when I get it this July!

[@MidnightMiata]

Doing this as soon as I can! I can already tell my power steering is starting to go and I don't want anymore headaches with it.

[@ryenjarvis300]

Dude I was just thinking about doing this and was like "man I wish Greg would make a vid..." low and behold! Boom! Here it is. I love you.

[@steelwitness]

For someone that your average person wouldn't consider a celebrity. Greg is a celebrity to me and I would be star struck if I met him. I mean he's miata dad bro no denying him. Ive done this several times over the years but i still watch this every time I do

[@shanebagel]

THANK YOU. I just bought a 91 na6 miata with a serious power steering leak, and as a result the pump was whining like a chihuahua. I found your video, and over the course of a week de-powered the rack with my dad! Now I have manual steering and love the heavy feel of the steering wheel. Amazing video, thank you!!

[@jaredkerchner5744]

I know this is rather old at this point but there is also a quill spring in the pinion shaft that allows the hydraulic spool valve to send fluid to the ram. If you want maximum feed back then the quill spring needs to be shimmed or welded so all the slop in the linkage is taken up and made solid.

[@raceinstinct]

Just did this to my ‘90. Took a little while but I’m happy with the results! Thank you for the excellent tutorial!

[@NoobProjectCar]

finally! a detailed step by step to depower the steering rack.

[@StarmanSoup]

Just followed this step by step and completed my rack! Now I just need to reinstall it and I'll be one step closer to getting my Miata back on the road. It's been down for over a year now lol

[@vikingskjegg4761]

There are a lot of videos of this prosess on youtube. None of these are any where near as good as this one. Thanks a bunch. Another project for the comming winter. Two thumbs up!

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

That means a lot, because I always think twice about doing videos that have been done several times already. This probably took me at least 10-12 hours just to make a 14 minute video including filming and editing but I think it came out pretty clean.

[@hvskyline1368]

Tbh this guy ain't getting the love he deserves he is so talented I'm planning on building a Naturally aspirated NA miata so I love how in depth your tutorials are much love

[@johnjimmers9356]

im deleting power steering now completely and i watched this video before but i never understood it, now that its actually time to do it, it makes so much sense, your video goes into so much detail and i really appreciate it!! really good video!!

[@eddiepadilla8984]

A review video on how the driving feels after the change would be cool! Great videos

[@sethglenn9022]

To preserve your alignment, you should just break the jam nut loose just enough to where you can spin the inner tie rod outof the outer. when it's time for install, you just spin the inner into the outer tie rod then tighten the jam nut once it's snug against the outer. If you have access to more tools like a ball joint press and a tie rod puller you should just remove the outer tie rod with it still connected. All if your boots are in good shape. Or just get an alignment. Cool videos dude.

[@Seandoestech]

Awesome! I have a depowered rack and I totally forgot about this mod, now it's another thing to add to my ever-growing to-do list for the boosted miata - thanks a lot Greg!

[@samd8054]

Thanks for the video. It takes out the mystery of a project to just see all the steps before jumping in.

[@WhiskeyBoyz]

perfect timing on this video! Have my turbo and manifold off and have been running my PS lines looped. I think this just gave me the 'push from the nest' :D

[@sam_scott_85]

Great video man, perfect pace for an instructional video. Not painfully slow but you still got all the important info. I'll be doing this to my NA soon!

[@Likethetacosauce]

1 of the most informative and quality KZbin channels.

[@ricardovelez300]

Quick editing helps a lot on such a long, dirty procedure.. Obvious that you've done it more than a few times, and it shows.. Good job !

[@80ProzentSAG]

Great Vid, watched it a few times before attempting it and already had a hard time removing the rack. Turns out I missed the *remove bolt completely before and could only move the steering rod out by a few mm, thank you for putting it up!

[@pawpatina]

did it. would never go back. the power gain is not much, but noticeable.... only thing i would have done different (like i did) is take the inner tie rods off while the rack is still on the car. much easier to do AND you don't have to adjust the inner/outer again. and the adjuster nut doesn't need to removed and then you don't have to readjust it. lastly, you didn't weld the steering shaft, it has slop in it and is way noticeable when reassembled. you will have a dead spot of almost an inch or two in the steering if you don't weld it. cool dog!

[@Pigeonbutter8790]

Have a manual rack in the babe but still watching because your vids are great

[@Pigeonbutter8790]

Too lazy to swap in a depowered rack. Manual ratio is good enough for what I do

[@adrianrainbow4106]

Great tutes dude, I was about to do the loop, but now I'm going for the full delete, top presentation, and no jibber jabber!

[@youngbloodviper]

Glad i found this video as i am planning on deleting my power steering and going with electric power steering from epower

[@Leo9ine]

Perfect timing dude! I was planning to do this over the winter but its hard to get a feel for the difficulty level just looking at a forum post. Watching you do it for real and show the details of the process was all I needed to tackle it.

[@unknown1creature]

please do a video on how the car feels now, I've heard missed reviews when it comes to people getting rid of power steering.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

I've had Miatas with and without. It really comes down to personal preference, I like both on the track and the street. I definitely prefer no power steering if I have the choice. The Miata is very light so it's not to hard to drive at all, even with big sticky tires.

[@galvanicpictures]

Nice job. I may do this. Thanks for the detail about the difference in ratio between depowered and OEM manual.

[@kazimahsan3456]

So one thing i thought of to make the centering part easier (idk if it actually works, curious to hear input) what if when you remove the rack you have it at full lock in one direction. That way you just need to put it at full lock in that direction.

[@rydster18]

Literallly was just about to do this. Makes it easier having a video to walk me through it. Thanks dude!

[@brunocostamurta4979]

technical videos are why i subscribed to this channel

[@joetarrant99]

This channel is so great. You have prepared me for what seems like everything that I need to know and do when I buy a miata. Love the pop things too lol.

[@123marijn321]

I had a powered steering MX-5 before, it was fine. But now i got one that didn't have power steering from the factory, so much better! And so much more room in the engine bay!

[@elliot438bcfcVTEC]

I deleted the power steering on my Integra, I just looped the rack with clean fluid in. Feels good for driving but is very stiff when still but you quickly learn how to park/ turn round etc without having to steer while not moving

[@karroome]

thumbs up, very few ppl depower the right way and you sir are one of them, I just wish you mentioned the bit about welding the spool valve in the pinion,,, nice vid.

[@benitoalvarez9377]

Wasn't sure if it was commented already, but based of this video I was able to pull this of on my 95 civic ex. It was a little different on the civic so I had to work around it. However it turned out pretty GREAT ! Was my third rack, was not going to purchase another lol Thanks sick VID 🤙🏼

[@dennistolbert4469]

great video, i welded the pinon when i did mine to eliminate the slop thats built in to the pinon. Use steel putty in the holes and add a couple grease zerts close to the pinon

[@MiataMods]

such a awesome video Greg! I really like that you go all technical.. I really learned something and for that I thank you! Keep those videos comming!

[@darrylyoes414]

Greg: great video. But at 10:50, the locking plate needs to be removed and held on the steering rack end so that the tabs inside it engage with the slots in the rack. If not, it's not doing anything to hold the pieces together... Without a locking plate, the inner tie rods can eventually back out of the rack itself. They're not likely to come out because you'd destroy tires from a bad toe setting long before it comes apart. It's better to replace those lock plates, but you can straighten them. Your advice of using lock-tite is spot on. Thanks again!

[@ProctorSilex]

Deleting PS and welding the pinion in my 02 made me a better driver. Likewise, removing ABS helped me improve braking technique. Some people learn just as well with PS and ABS. YMMV.

[@svriderpokey]

When you have the inner tie rods off, you can squeeze the lock washers in a bench vice to flatten them out.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Oh that's genius, note taken.

[@fpadilla95]

don't have a Miata but, but I'm gonna do this to my Honda. Super good video man keep it up!!

[@ipenguin7084]

more videos like this please. i love watching tutorials

[@foxbodygarageamerica9382]

Greg very impressive and that's coming from a mustang guy with megasquirt ..would like too see you do more tuning videos with megasquirt ...also those maitas look like a lot of fun I may even build after my bracket car is all tuned and track ready .. need a street toy for everyday fun ..

[@funretirementprojects7765]

I followed your directions. The job came out perfect.

[@raymondcascella4920]

Very detail and informative wish there was a RX7s site like this

[@yp360]

glad I watched this. did mine a while ago and just threw everything back on. didn't know I had to torque that tension bolt thing like that..

[@jackjetpilot]

Update! This video is awesome!

[@tylerw1774]

Did it to my rangers rack and pinion. This video taught me what I needed to know lol figured out the rest

[@Joshf93.]

One of my power steering pipes just split on my mk2 so rather than buy new PAS pipes i'm just gonna de-power the rack so this will definitely come in handy!

[@GoonChief]

dude been so tempted but it is quite tedious glad u made this video it will make it much easier when i go to try it!! u da man

[@hielkeannema]

Removed PS and it is bad ahahah , hopefully this video and a good alignment will make the miata great again, shoutout greg

[@FriedTurkey]

Looking forward to doing this on mine once I've finally finished the rust repair. I did however make the mistake of sharing this with a non car person. Instant regret "YoU'lL mAkE yOuR cAr WoRtHlEsS!".

[@mrskyler44]

YoU wOnT bE aBle tO DriVe iT

[@Iamdaveable]

hell of a tutorial. gonna have to give this a shot now.

[@tia1103]

Very well explained ! Very good video ! Man those miata look so easy to work on, make me want to buy a Miata!!!

[@csbeverly1]

You will need: From Harbor freight: Needle nose and snap ring plyers. Large crecent wrench. Small flat head screw driver. 12, 14, and 17mm wrenches. Jack and stands. From Home Depot: Paint pen. Automotive grease. EZ Lock 1-1/2 in. Rotary Tool Metal Cut-Off Wheels for Metal and a Dremel. Zip ties. Total cost to me: right over $100 for having nothing to start off with.

[@TheDatsunZX]

I don't have a Miata but that was a really well explained video!

[@triggamusician]

Great video! Will be very helpful in the future. My power steering pump is out at the moment and I was wondering how to do it right and how not to dirt up the whole steering rack. I am pretty sure I will come back to this video a couple of times.

[@mikespencer9913]

I am SO going to do this when I do my engine swap this Summer. Can’t wait to tell ppl I rebuilt my Miata with bicycle parts! \o/

[@TimVo]

dat garage crack! interested on a review of how much extra weight the steering when parking etc.

[@JC2SLO]

Good video to this day!

[@ravynx]

Yep, I RTV'd mine as well. Good work. I also had someone weld the pinion in 4 spots since there is slop there as well for the purpose of pushing fluid. I had a 2000 model year which is slightly different than the one you worked on, YMMV.

[@icanturn6844]

Great video as always! I am going to try this with a spare rack that I have.

[@dangerpudge1922]

There is supposed to be a weld required. The pinion of the PS rack is two pieces and they twist at different rates as you turn the wheel. The reason this happens is that it acts as a valve being less abruptly actuated in order to build hydraulic pressure in the rack. when you de-power you wind up with sloppy steering due to this flex. Welding the two pieces together eliminates this and sharpens up the steering. For more details consult this page: www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/1709/PageID/2463/Project-Miatabusa-Part-5--De-Powering-the-Steering-Rack.aspx

[@batsminator]

Really nice tutorial Greg. Didn't know this was possible. Doesn't look too hard with these detailed instructions, so might be something I can do to my MX-5. Thanks!

[@HiroshimaSpirit]

Yet another great video, man. Once I have another NA in the future, I'll be turning to much of your info first. Thanks!

[@seannorris111795]

I like the more technical videos. Also the studio is great. Keep up with the great videos!

[@thatniceguynick]

Another way to close off the open power steering lines is to put the lines back in place and cut them with a pair of diagonal cutters. The pinch of the diagonal cutters is powerful enough to seal them Right before they cut.

[@Kraid07]

YESSS!!! Awesome video Greg, always wanted to this but feared something might go wrong (it's still my daily), now with your instructions its an easy task! Thank you so much and keep it up! These type of videos are the BEST HNNG

[@schwannman4202]

Great video! By far the best de power video on KZbin. 👌🏼

[@Badger_S197]

Weld the pinon dude! Totally worth while your at it and it removes all the slack. Did it recently and loving it.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

I thought about it, I've driven racks with and without and I can't tell too much of a difference. If it becomes noticeable on this car I will definitely have it done.

[@Badger_S197]

If you ever do so, it would be cool to do before after comparison. Moto-IQ has a video on their page that shows how much slack the pinion got. Btw. I like the solution with the silicone sealant. Some of those bolts are impossible to get and the sold kits are fairly pricey.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Ohh so the slack builds over time? Maybe the ones I've driven just haven't free'd up yet?

[@Badger_S197]

There is still some tension regardless. I can totally see that this would barely be notable at street driving. For the track it better be crisp :) Check out this one: vimeo.com/15245486 www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/1709/PageID/2463/Project-Miatabusa-Part-5--De-Powering-the-Steering-Rack.aspx

[@ianm432]

The torsion bar in the pinion is what lets the hydraulic pressure flow. When you turn the wheel the torsion twists slightly without the pinion turning which effectively opens a valve to let hydraulic pressure flow into one side of the rack. Then you stop turning the pinion, the rack catches up with the torsion bar on the pinion from hydraulic pressure and closes the valve. So imagine without the hydraulic pressure to catch up with the torsion bar all you're doing is overcoming the torsion spring pressure before the rack moves.

[@Peppermint1]

Well done. Watching this because my rack started sweating at the top rack seal. Only remark for the video, if the rack was designed for synthetic fluid, the end seals may not resist well to the petroleum based grease, may swell and make turning harder after a while. De-assisted steering feeling will also come down to the rack gear 'ratio', manual cars from factory had a different ratio than on assisted ones. Also, guess you need a shorter belt to bypass the pump while there, better not run a pump dry for too long

[@Chris_Drifts]

The power steering belt doesn't run any other ancillaries, so simply remove the belt entirely. Unless your car has AC, in which case, yes shorter belt or just remove AC 🤣

[@joenichols9666]

great vid. trying this on a camaro build

[@redheadmetalhead247]

Awesome video. Very informative. My only recommendation would be to find the bolts or plugs to lock those holes closed. I feel like they would last a lot longer than a dollop of silicone. Other than that, great video. Upload more!!!!

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Yeah that's why I mentioned using bolts in the video just to let people know about that option. It's definitely better.

[@rubengarcia857]

Man you've been such a big help for me. I'm doing this today and hopefully I'll get it right lol jkjk but I like how detailed you are brother

[@64reklaw]

Reference to the inner tie rod lock washers there is tangs on the inner part of washer that should be located in cut out on shaft otherwise bending washer over on outer circumference if not doing anything.

[@adamfergusson1]

That's a cracking video dude, doing it now with a bud of mine

[@SilverDanification]

awesome info dude! I was going to transfer the manual rack from my donor car as mine is power steering, but now I'll do this instead!

[@Spone85]

i'd pause at 0:00 to bufer the video and... greg OMG who's your dealer :P lol keep the good work going :]

[@CJrekrap]

lol

[@SammDijks]

Quality video man!! You are an inspiration and it´s why i run a turbo miata :)

[@El_Chompo]

I love your videos man they just keep getting better. Sour cream on a taco. Classic.

[@davisharr]

So tempted to try it... Wish I could try out a Miata with it before I do it to mine though

[@ajcox131991]

When tapping on a crescent wrench, it's good practice to use it in the right direction ;)

[@cameronprice6000]

Glad you mentioned the dorifto washers for mad skids yo 👍

[@brandonjones3641]

Awesome vid man, in the middle of depowering mine now

[@Encom0]

Useful vid, a lot more informative than most others on the subject 👍

[@grahamcrane83]

Just did this today. Guide really helpful , as always.

[@davidfletcher4016]

Love it may be my next project I have a lazy deporting.

[@davidfletcher4016]

Depowering *