The Ultimate Super Smash Bros Roster Rant: Endgame - Nintendrone

[@HyperCharge]

Finally got this damn video out! This one is a little more analytical and less reactionary then the last one, but I guess that's not saying much. Anyways, a lot of people wanted a follow up video from the previous one to hear my final thoughts on Smash Ultimate, so here it is!

[@youmenow7942]

I love your first roster video, I still think Monster Hunter or any of the Wonders would be better than Sora

[@nickk3077]

Thank you, Sam!

[@adriann9919]

I've been looking forward to this one!

[@PittsburghSonido]

The legend returns

[@epicsena]

rex's removal was stated to be hardware limitations, not the mii costumes addition, since rendering 16 high poly models (8 player smash) on the switch in handheld mode at once would've melted it, so its just the ice climbers bullshit for Smash 4 3DS. As a big fan of the game I can absolutely agree that the absence of the driver-blade system that makes the games combat so special really stings, especially since I like rex's character and wouldn't have minded him being in the game, but having the game represented in any capacity is good enough for me.

[@Powerstrike368]

You really convinced me that the brickster should be in smash

[@HyperCharge]

For real though, I did love playing those old Lego games back in the day.

[@nickk3077]

You know, Lego really is a great video game franchise, but I never considered it for Smash until now. I mean, Sam presents an interesting point by pointing out how R.O.B., a toy, is in the game.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

@@HyperCharge I mean, it was probably a bad example but I get the point though, a Lego rep would not be remotely bad.

[@jakesu8264]

Same Also Lego Battles was the shit back I'm the day

[@M3rtyville]

Just think about how he could place a lego on the ground which can make enemies stepping on collapse temporary.

[@werewook]

You're so vitriolic and venomous in this video that I can't see it as anything other than parody. You're like a caricature of one of those unintentionally hilarious AVGN clones of the late 2000s except the constant stream of le epic anger is occasionally paused for strawmen shoddily disguised as reasonable, level-headed argumentation.

[@tulleyj3]

That's the whole point

[@autocorrect5456]

wow very astute... hopefully it didn't take you the entire video to figure that out...

[@wetube6513]

He's an elitist gatekeeping asshole what did you expect?

[@aprinceofearthsea4875]

​@Jack_Horneryou didn't have to type anything, and yet you decided to and now we have to live with it.

[@jackiexkh]

The comparison between Minecraft and Fortnite is well-put and something I've thought about since Steve's reveal.

[@MrDrzjayrod358]

I always have said fortnite was Minecraft but with guns and this video just amplified that thought 10 fold and then some!

[@youmenow7942]

timestamp for Minecraft VS Fortnite 1:07:14

[@kantochampionsam8322]

@@MrDrzjayrod358 mustard plays a fortnite KZbinr that is also Donald mustards brother suggested the battle Royale idea so yeah that’s how

[@NatetheNintendofan]

I have an idea some some talented Mater finally figures out how to f****** add your own characters in Super Smash Bros ultimate with mods and actually make it so they don't just take over a character swap with costumes Waluigi I still have faith in you if you can make it in the project and you can make it into ultimate and doing that making it so you can actually make your own mods mods that actually had full new characters with full new moves that's would be a risk of getting a cease and decease who cares#Waluigismash

[@ultimax10doesgaming48]

This video basically said everything on my mind for the past 3 years and executed it beautifully. This was an awesome watch, keep up the great work.

[@PoseidonLord-oy5zl]

And someone cried because of this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/el66onyraaqFoKc

[@yeahitsscott]

As an apparent sex pervert loser, I can confirm that I prefer Xenoblade 2 over 1 because I find its combat system more fun.

[@aquano1972]

Not being able to auto attack if you’re moving around in XC2 automatically makes it worse, even if it was just about gameplay and not it’s awful pacing, tutorial slog, shit characters and story, and yes: being a sex pervert loser by proxy

[@SonicTheCutehog]

Rex was supposed to be DLC despite being a Mii Costume. Sakurai stated it was originally going to be Rex & Pyra who would function in a similar way to the Ice Climbers. However, hardware limitations prevented this idea from happening. He then thought about making it Rex only, but went with Pyra & Mythra instead because he felt fans would prefer them.

[@oscarramos5681]

It is true?

[@SonicTheCutehog]

@@oscarramos5681 Yes

[@PeruvianPotato]

​@@oscarramos5681Yep

[@tylermarik5709]

The excitement I feel when one of your videos drops is unmatched. The quality is that of someone who does this full time

[@justapeckneck]

Summary: "people don't like that characters aren't in the game and THIS IS WHY GENOCIDE MUST BE ENACTED UPON HUMANITY AND I SHALL HUFF THE ASHES OF THE FALLEN also I'm a better human being than all of you"

[@OrangeToadGamer]

Smash Fans when Smash Speculation is over: ☹️ Smash Fans realizing they can just Speculate about the next *Mario Kart* game: 😀

[@HyperCharge]

I really hope Mario Kart doesn't go down that route cause I can't handle any more of this shit

[@OrangeToadGamer]

@@HyperCharge unfortunately it seems like it's kind of starting with the *Nintendo Kart* VS *Mario Kart 9* argument

[@BitchChill]

@@HyperCharge It wouldn't have the same impact

[@raisylvaine8398]

Y'know, im sensing some slight bias against Pyra/Mythra because of the outward hate towards XC2, when that game and it's story are pretty good all things considered

[@Nerwrax15]

Like, they could have done the Blade-Driver mechanic in-game PERFECTLY and he would have still whined about it by virtue of them making it in lol.

[@liammcnicholas918]

Dunkey’s video did a lot of damage to XC2 discourse. I understand he has various problems with JRPGs, but it’s dumb to hate a game because Dunkey said he didn’t like it.

[@dappitydingdong1219]

I'm so glad this video is finally out, the previous one is one of my favourite videos on youtube. I'm glad you warmed up to steve because to me, and a whole lot of other people, his reveal was the most hype shit ever. The urban skuttle joke at 1:09:31 had me laughing more than I have done in a while. Its a 10/10 masterpiece!

[@MRrichthe7th]

You are low key spitting facts in this video, most smash fans ask for the most obscure characters of all time and are completely shocked when they don’t get in

[@Megajmaster1000]

"It doesn't matter how recognizable a character is as long as they're fun to play" -the same "gatekeeper" that added piranha plant to the game

[@luisreyes1963]

Geno is DEAD. Accept it. 😐

[@justsomerandomguy196]

​@@luisreyes1963FR

[@lordruin7741]

@@luisreyes1963 when was the last in game appearance of king k rool? banjo? is kof even relevant?

[@BobTheBricoleur]

This guy feels very... strongly about Xenoblade 2, it's honestly pretty funny. I love all 3 Xenoblade games to death so it's always interesting to see what people will hate about one of them next. I popped off so hard for Pyra / Mythra and are my favorite characters to play so I'm satisfied with them, but I somewhat understand not liking their swap mechanic and such

[@Nerwrax15]

They were my #1 rep pick just like Shulk was for Smash 4 lol.

[@pro-toman]

It really shows how hilarious this guy is when I'm uncontrollably laughing as he trashes both my favorite game on the switch and me for liking it.

[@aquano1972]

Xenoblade 2 is really bad

[@bjornrosol5635]

Xenoblade 2 sucks

[@britishguy54dx]

Xenoblade 2 is great.

[@tsarmikislav938]

30:13 Correction Spyro and crash were supposed to be in playstation all stars but Activision demanded too much money so they were scrapped

[@SageMoon341]

Great video man. I was one of the 2 people who actually enjoyed your first video and felt that despite the negativity, you were really fair and made some good points even though I personally disagreed with some of them. This follow up vid pretty much sums up my exact thoughts on the general entitlement and ungratefulness a lot of people have toward this game, especially as a long time fan myself and it was pretty fuckin funny and cathartic to hear you rag on these types of people. I pretty much agree with your scores on the dlc fighters except Sora because I actually love that cheesy asd series and he was my dream pick. Joker was the best reveal for me though and I 100% agree with you about Pyra/Mythra. Overall excellent video and I look forward to the next one! Also Brickster should definitely be in Smash

[@dappitydingdong1219]

a lot of people loved the first video, its just a lot of people hated it

[@julsmanbr8152]

The original video got a lot of traffic from people who didn't really know the channel, and didn't understand that the petty, argumentative "I'm right you're wrong" stance is half the point

[@M3rtyville]

I haven't seen anyone use a Lucky Star avatar for over a decade. I forgot this animu existed. It was pretty gud.

[@PoseidonLord-oy5zl]

And yet this kid doesn't get this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/el66onyraaqFoKc

[@SteveNorwalt]

I like the inclusion of Piranha Plant, because I can pretend I'm playing as Audrey II, yelling out "feed me!" throughout the match to annoy people.

[@Canadian_Bags_of_Milk]

Id just join you in singing as Seymour by responding "Does it have to be human?"

[@malikmuhammad9085]

I'll do you one better "does it have to be mine?"

[@coffeewithgeeks]

Finally!!! Have been waiting months for a new video from you! This is going to be a wild ride heheheh. Keep it up Sam!

[@chrispower8048]

I’m so excited to watch this! Waited so long! Thanks Sam!

[@athy8763]

while i disagree with some of your opinions, i also understand and respect your viewpoint as an individual. you also make some really good points in this.

[@MelonFanta]

jesus christ why is this dude so angry lol

[@SuperParkerBro27]

it's a hour and thirty minutes of ranting, it makes sense

[@MelonFanta]

@@SuperParkerBro27 i didnt see the rant in the title so i thought this dude was just crazy lol

[@MrSai-mn8wz]

Honestly crash bandicoot was my most wanted character and actually has a really good moveset potential he can take from all his games But as a big crash bandicoot fan i got angry when the only reason he was requested for smash was because as soon as N.sane trilogy was announced in the same direct as smash everyone just randomly wanted him in the game because he was on the switch when in reality they are fake fans that dont give a shit about him and only want him because we are all spoiled for more 3rd party characters I wanted him in the game because hes my favorite character of all time but im not shocked he diden't make it in

[@memesfact1552]

well that's because he's a trash pick that's why lol

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

I disagree I don't think crash bandicoot has good moveset potential his moveset would be kinda boring and not interesting in smash even if he did get into smash bros and if they used his N Sane Trilogy moveset he would get boring very quickly I think he would be better as a assist trophy or a mii costume

[@MrSai-mn8wz]

N.sane trilogy ain't the only game he can take moves from pal

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

@@MrSai-mn8wz well his moveset in crash bandicoot 4 would be kinda boring as well

[@MrSai-mn8wz]

Lmao you think NST and crash 4 are the only games?

[@CarbonMalite]

You're tweaking, I love dressing my Mii up as Yoshi and pretending the metal ball he throws is Yoshi's egg toss ☠️

[@ciggy_]

Is this guy actually gonna scream about how everyone else is stupid and annoying for 1 and a half hour? Geeez…

[@pinokio9951]

Basically

[@adarus9941]

He’s a Moron honestly, he’s not an elitist gatekeeper and yet here he is with his “Reasons for why your D Tier Trash Characters have no right to be in Smash.” Even though he has no idea what he’s really talking about and is only enforcing his own beliefs on who should and shouldn’t be in Smash.

[@ZoruaMaster]

I think that's pretty much his whole thing which kinda makes it entertaining

[@Keith_police_quest_2]

alternative title for this video Man Crys About People Wanting Characters From Their Favorite Game

[@Shikojen]

One thing I want to bring up about the Monster Hunter is that the Monster Hunter team in Capcom have gone on to say they do not want to use the Hunters themselves to represent the franchise in crossover games as they feel the monsters are the true focus of the franchise. MvCI not included as Capcom directly went behind their back to put them in anyway.

[@orangeslash1667]

I don't think Monster Hunter would work well in 2d, other than MvCI.

[@k-leb4671]

See, that's what I was thinking. Monster Hunter is about the monsters - I don't care about the player character. They might have cool weapons and gear they could bring to Smash, but I'm more interested in the giant dragon I could be fighting. You could argue similarly for Animal Crossing. We don't care about the human we play as. It's all abut the animal folk we meet. At least though we have Isabel in Smash now.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@k-leb4671 People complain about Byleth being a dull character. All I have to say is so what, Monster Hunter has even less personality.

[@cola5375]

Fun Fact: Steve was supposed to be the finale of fighter pass 1. He was delayed to he after both byleth & min min. This was shown in the games code as he is ordered before byleth and min min in terms of the codes slot #

[@mitrimind1027]

All because Nintendo wants to keep using smash to promate this one particular mediocre franchase over others that could bring in much more interesting characters.

[@anankos795]

@@mitrimind1027 It's really not that big of a deal. Steve probably was revealed and released later because programming his moveset was very arduous.

[@theperians]

@@mitrimind1027 it isn’t a mediocre franchise but whatever

[@Matanumi]

Damn.... Steve would've been excellent to cap off pass one.... But that was probably considering if there was gonna be only one pass

[@Megajmaster1000]

Source: "I made it up"

[@Aussie_Kirby]

i know i'm over a year late, but fun fact about pyra/mythra. sakurai's original plan WAS to have the driver/blade mechanic in smash. the reason why it got scrapped was because the switch literally kept shitting the bed. like how ice climbers got cucked out of smash 4 because the 3ds couldn't handle it, a unique gameplay style for a xenoblade 2 rep got cucked because the potato hardware of the switch couldn't handle it.

[@justglitch01]

Never stop making amazing content please, i just got into your videos through the uncivil zelda synopsis series and all of your videos are so damn amazing and funny, you put a lot of hard work into each vid and your editing is so good, not to mention your sense of humor. Your vids are great!!

[@BlueBladerBot]

I mean, I'm happy with the roster as is. Even if Crash, Spyro, Dr. Robotnik, and Porky didn't make it, I'm still happy that they have THIS MANY CHARACTERS

[@wetube6513]

Most of them are anime swordighters bruh.

[@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295]

@@wetube6513 Yeah, it's not like this game is made in Japan and the sword is the most common weapon in fiction! They should add a dozen more of forgotten cartoon mascots from the 90's that all do the same shіt of punching and kicking!

[@krebis6739]

@@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295that statement literally makes no sense just because this game was made in Japan doesn’t mean they have to add so many sword characters and you say cartoon characters from the 90s all they do is punch and kick. You do realize that most sword characters in smash operate, the same way,right? You obviously never played any classic platform game if you think all they do is punch and kick.Marth Roy Lucia chrom basically play the same with slight differences

[@PeruvianPotato]

​@@wetube6513Boohoo, grow the hell up

[@jupiterho11ow]

@@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 Smash 64, Melee, and Brawl were also all made in Japan. They all had at most two anime sword fighter characters, and the rest of their casts were significantly more unique than "press button to punch, press other button to kick." History proves that Nintendo is capable of putting their weebiness aside and not bloating the roster up with anime swordies.

[@JoshuaWhitePhotography]

I loved the beginning being updated! Great little detail!

[@ItsMuggy]

This lived up to the hype since you announced this video! Thank you, I needed this. 🙏

[@Ph4ntomHourGlass]

16:22 I laughed so hard at this 😂

[@raphaelmarquez9650]

Fighters Pass 2 is seen as Sakurai's way of tying up loose ends of what characters or series was considered for Ultimate's base roster and the previous Smash game but couldn't add them due to time constraints. ARMS and XC2 were considered for a slot in the base roster during Ultimate's development, Steve was negotiated for Smash since at least 2015, FFVII had zero new content in Ultimate's base game, Tekken was originally going to have a character in Smash 4 in the form of Heihachi, and Sora was the most requested character from the Smash Ballot above the other ballot picks like Banjo, K. Rool, Ridley, Simon, Bayonetta, and the cut veterans. The only known characters/franchises left who were also considered for Smash but still haven't gotten in the roster yet are Ayumi Tachibana and a Rhythm Heaven character.

[@Matanumi]

....how the fuck would you know that? What about ryu hayabusa? Like this video says anyone could be considered

[@gallantblade1825]

@@Matanumi 2 years late, but here's the info. Hope this helps. Looking up the 11/20/2021 Nintendo Everything article that features a Sakurai interview, an ARMS character was considered for Smash before Ultimate and even ARMS itself came out, according to Sakurai. According to the Smash Direct on 11/01/2018, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 came out after Smash Ultimate started development, since the roster was decided right when it started. Plus, in the Sakurai Presents, making Rex fight alongside Pyra was too difficult for the Smash team to do. Heck, Ice Climbers were pushing it, and they have a much simpler design, look the same as each other, and just copy each other's moves. Sakurai Presents for Steve mentions his development and how long it has lasted, and Sakurai Presents for Sora mentions that he was THE winner of the Fighter Ballot. In Vol. 456 of Sakurai"s Famitsu Column (released around the time Pacman was revealed for Sm4sh), he mentioned that Heihachi from Tekken was considered as a Namco rep, but his movement was too hard to translate in-game. In the Sakurai Presents for Kazuya, it was Kazuya's Devil Gene that chose him over Heihachi, when a higher-up told Sakurai to include a Tekken character. When Sm4sh Wii U came out, people went into the game's coding and found a placeholder for a character emblem that referred to "Rhythm". This corresponded in a way to the very early Gematsu Leak of Sm4sh, which suggested Chorus Kids from Rhythm Heaven as a fighter. And this leak was 90% correct, only missing out on Chorus Kids, Chrom (who was replaced with Robin early on in development), and not mentioning Bowser Jr. and Duck Hunt. A potentially accurate leak from very early Sm4sh development. SourceGaming's 01/26/2015 article has more to say on this. And finally, as compiled by SourceGaming in their 04/29/2016 post about definitive Smash Bros unused fighters, Ayumi Tachibana was considered for Melee but was dismissed due to Famicom Detective Club being Japan only. It was from a real old interview, so it's gone from the Interwebz. As convincing as HyperCharge is in his assertions, it still is just a video of a guy spouting his opinions. Opinions that I see merit in and agree to for the most part (besides the Xenoblade 2 rant, but it was kinda funny), but still just opinions. We don't know how Sakurai works, or how the devs choose characters. But it really does feel that Fighter Pass 2 tied up some loose ends here.

[@thehypist2587]

I was looking forward to when you inevitably made this video, and you delivered! Also as a Xenoblade fan, I really like Pyra & Mythra’s inclusion since I wanted an XC2 rep after finishing the game. That said, I love a lot of the third party additions as well. Banjo & Sephiroth are perfect, Steve getting in was amazing and Sora’s reveal trailer was truly magical! Even if some characters I wanted didn’t get in, it’s hard to be disappointed in the final product. Smash Ultimate is truly special, this will definitely go down in history as one of the biggest crossovers in gaming and it’s just so satisfying that it happened in the first place. I’m extremely glad Sakurai managed to give us this masterpiece and so much more.

[@goldshell9992]

You actually like that crappy looking game?

[@BobTheBricoleur]

I beat Xenoblade 2 in 2018 and instantly wanted a rep, I just loved the characters so much like a Jin / Lora combo would be great if we ever got another one

[@projectz358]

As fan service, yeah. As a smash game, they messed up.

[@Nerwrax15]

@@goldshell9992 alot of people did. Still sold better than Xenoblade 1(and definitive edition)

[@thehypist2587]

@Gold Shell999 Yes, it was one of my first Switch games and I deeply enjoyed the characters and story. The Torna expansion was also super fun and I enjoyed the dynamics between party members. It really is a good JRPG if you have the time to play it.

[@bboyy97]

After Castlevania got dope representation in ultimate all the DLC was just a bonus. Even Alucard was done perfectly as an assist trophy by giving him that bullshit sword that everyone used once you got it. Dope game

[@Will-ig3yj]

This video is amazing man. You earned a sub, and seeing your uploads I know I'll be binging for a while.

[@datalphalion]

Even after all these patches and updates, there’s one thing that’s more impossible than Sora in Smash: Good online netcode.

[@autocorrect5456]

Good online anything. it's currently missing basic, obvious features because arenas are horrible, and the rulesets you're allowed to make are either "sort of competitive" or "MAXIMUM WACKY" and there's no in between since you can't select specific stages or items. the amount of incompetency it takes to make something like this is impressive.

[@randomistough0]

i hate how much piranha plant makes sense in smash. they clearly added him just because he's so popular but little did i know he has so much more

[@cosplayingchao]

I think everyone had that heel turn with Steve. Once you see the moveset, you immediately realize how cool he is as a fighter

[@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295]

Unless you're a competitive player, of course.

[@yoxhi5044]

I love how explicit and straightforward this entire video is.

[@LimitlessZspeed]

This deserves way more views. alot of parts made sense

[@PoseidonLord-oy5zl]

But someone else doesn't get this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/el66onyraaqFoKc

[@scoffeex1740]

Liked and subscribed out of mere respect even though I find your aggression and over-seriousness unwarranted... greatest game of all time

[@gamerexeditor]

I love your videos so much. I was cracking up the whole time. And you're the only Smash KZbinr who has the balls to speak the right opinion and call out the fans on their stupid choices. Keep up the amazing work!

[@TheMack625]

This video is very funny. I don't agree with every little thing you said, but the humor was consistent throughout!

[@Noxyfied]

Im just glad pyra and mythra are in so i can just be happy

[@goldshell9992]

They still shitty characters, but atleast they top tier in smash utimate

[@Nerwrax15]

@@goldshell9992 are you just Hypercharge on a different account? Lol

[@goldshell9992]

@@Nerwrax15 Yes, you smelly smash player! Nah, just kidding lol

[@luisreyes1963]

You know who else is happy for Pyra/Mythra? Rule 34 artists...😉

[@esentries]

Another banger. I've seen all your vids at this point. It's just so replay-able. Keep up the good work, Sam.

[@slashy1622]

I would actually think a different approach with a sequel could be to focus way more on building up representation for existing franchises. If the approach for the next Smash Bros. was to focus on really expanding on what's there, making it feel like each franchise was fully explored rather than just represented people might take cuts more easily. This also means that suddenly the character choosing process will also prioritize way more B-Listers as they serve a vital role in expanding a franchise's representation. I would not be surprised if this approach would go over well and you see Smash fans suddenly embracing cuts. Now every franchise gets to be closer to being Fire Emblem, now suddenly there is a need to shove in all these third party villains and side kicks that were like no priority anymore. Just a thought that came to mind watching your video.

[@amadeus.7436]

If you start thinking about big 1st-party characters to include you're gonna run out of ideas fairly fast, if you try to not over-represent any franchise. You could have 20 Mario characters sure but it wouldn't be great to have that next to 1-2 Splatoon or Animal Crossing characters.

[@cancerman1895]

I think the reason why a lot of people want Crash in Smash(including myself) is because Super Smash Bros at its core is a very cartoonish and slapstick driven game. Despite not being super close to Nintendo or Smash in terms of relevancy, he's a character that id argue would benefit from its gameplay the best out of any possible character they could add. There aren't as many "cartoony" characters in the game as there should be compared to the more humanoid characters that are more abundant and the ones that are there don't take advantage enough of the fact that smash is a stupid silly cartoon game. Smash has characters become dizzy and have their mouth on fire when they eat spicy food. The core gameplay of smash is launching characters off the screen, which is pretty silly in retrospect. The Crash series has a multitude of cartoon gags and animations that can be used to really push the essence of smash further beyond that only characters like Banjo and Bowser Jr were kind of able to get across. All of this can be applied to Rayman too but to a lesser extent. I agree that they wouldn't be perfect inclusions and Banjo definitely deserved to get in more, but there's a pretty solid argument to be made that they could add something significant to the game that not many characters in gaming really have the ability to accomplish. As dumb as it sounds, character animation and aesthetic is something that CAN make a game a lot more fun(especially for ones like smash), and for me personally not many characters in the game deliver on that front. Not even other slapstick platform fighters like Multiversus and Nickelodeon All Star Brawl really get into this, despite using ACTUAL CARTOON characters. Good vid tho, lot of good points made.

[@DWN037]

So the reason Min Min got in over Spring Man and Ribbon Girl (aside from nepotism from Yabuki) was because she won what was essentially a ranked popularity contest over the game's first couple years. About twice every month, two characters would be pit against one another, and you were given the choice between them to say which one you liked more, albeit the whole event was weighted slightly because most people were better at playing one character than another. Basically, if Smash had started development a year or two later than it did, then Spring Man would've probably been the one in the main slot despite Sakurai and Yabuki's personal wants. Oh, also - if you don't like playing ARMS right now, I can't stress this enough, just _go in_ whenever you start playing. Dash as much as possible and try to make it so that your opponent gets boxed in. The core appeal of the game (for me) is in the fight for a guaranteed advantage state, the feeling of dodging 90 punches over the span of ten seconds against a stronger opponent, or the feeling of being untouchable from the other side of the map during the last five seconds because I'm using gloves that hit from longer ranges. I can see how it's hard to get into - the differences between characters only start to come through when you're fighting against more difficult opponents since they're more likely to be dashing everywhere instead of just walking. If it were up to me, I'd give each character another character-specific ability, then I'd make the characters and punches just a little bit faster to force people to play to their characters' strengths, and it would be a 10/10 game for me.

[@PeterGargan]

Xenoblade 2 is one of my favourite games of all time but I found your rant on it absolutely hilarious! Fair play :)

[@goldshell9992]

@@jazyzamp3056 The game would be a little better if the characters doesn't have that shitty anime style

[@1BadAssArchAngelvs14]

@@goldshell9992 xenoblade chronicles defintitive edition also has a anime stlye too.

[@goldshell9992]

@@1BadAssArchAngelvs14 At least it look better

[@goldshell9992]

@@jazyzamp3056 Nice take! I didn't think of that before.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@jazyzamp3056 Maybe people hate the anime art style unless it's kinda realistic?????

[@HatsAlEsman]

Only stuff I have to says I'm still thinking Byleth was scrapped together with animations from monster hunter after the Monhunt team didn't want the player character in fighting games, and Min Min was pretty much the most likely ARMSer for smash as she is the only character with kicks/other types of attacks as well as the winner of a popularity poll (though I was hoping for Dr Cortex as a big slow floating powerhouse villain, Ganondorf with Sora air mobility). Other than that, the video is annudah ten outta ten, you put together all the words we all think, and you are genuinely my favourite youtube channel.

[@angrygarbanzo5436]

More companies should have their own lovingly-made cross-over fighters. I like NiGHTs more than most of the Smash roster, but I’m not biased enough to say he deserves a spot on the roster. SEGA, Capcom, etc. should have their own party-fighters; that way, you can have all the niche picks you want without being mad when Nintendo prioritizes their niche characters over other ones.

[@orangeslash1667]

Sonic's purple alt is a reference to Nights.

[@vulcanblitzwing]

Man just sat through this whole ass video and it's now 6 in the fucking morning, great video please keep making some bomb ass shit like this man ❤

[@tonatiuhmaldonado9873]

My man really shitting on Xeno 2 :C Man that shit is the hypest shit after like 20 hours lmao

[@Nerwrax15]

The game is so much more emotional than 1 is imo. If you can't feel that connection and just throw up "weeb" and "perverts" as arguments, you just don't have a soul lol.

[@sixarmedpsycho_9]

Imagine during Sephiroth's reveal, someone screams "GOKU? GOKUUUUUUUUU!!!"

[@felldoh9271]

haha

[@koiyune]

someone screamed goku when hero's alts where being shown because one of them had the goku haircut

[@sixarmedpsycho_9]

@@koiyune I can imagine.

[@koiyune]

​@@sixarmedpsycho_9 also, do you remember when somebody called sora "BABY JESUS"

[@sixarmedpsycho_9]

@@koiyune I haven't seen a video.

[@sla7889]

I agree that byleth isnt the best adittion But the way she plays is COMPLETELY different from a swordie

[@kazoorion7993]

OH MAN! This video is definitely going to be a big show. Despite some of my highly requested characters, such as Jibanyan, Hat Kid, Phoenix Wright, Crono, Reimu and Crash Bandicoot weren't in the game as playable characters, I still enjoy Ultimate.

[@HyperCharge]

I could definitely see Crash getting into the next game if they're able to maintain the roster and keep expanding the series.

[@k-leb4671]

Why would any of those characters other than Crash be added to Smash?

[@kazoorion7993]

@@k-leb4671 Well, just like Crash, they have a couple of requeriments to be added without being out of place.

[@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295]

@@k-leb4671 I made a long-ass comment on this channel about why Reimu should be in Smash. You might want to check it out.

[@salsaandbrwx1449]

@@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 where is it?

[@competitively3315]

Loved this video and it’s made me laugh. I’m subscribing and watching your other videos because it’s rare to see someone with actual reasoning on the internet.

[@epicsena]

I am so sick and tired of the "all xenoblade 2 fans are sex perverts" and "xenoblade 2 artstyle/character design bad" arguments, but I won't let that detract from this great video. Keep up the good work, can't wait to see what you make in the future!

[@Nerwrax15]

Likewise pal. 5 years on and all the Xenoblade Holy Grail loyalist still haven't made Definitive Edition sell better than the "weeb trash". Which is so annoying as i like ALL 3 Xenoblade games so having to defend one game from another just sucks.

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

he's not wrong though most of the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 fans are sex perverts and simps who can't get a real women so they obess over the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 girls for weird reasons sorry if this was offensive

[@sonicmaster206]

Ok sex pervert

[@epicsena]

@@sonicmaster206 :|

[@ZoruaMaster]

It really stinks too because most people probably end up putting the game down before they even reach chapter 3 or 4. Most of this guys criticisms about the game itself being a generic story with boring characters isn't even true if you actually go through the effort of sticking with the dang game instead of immediately dropping it less than halfway through.

[@aquano1972]

Let’s goo!!! I love your videos man! Idk why but my subscription was gone for this channel, but I fixed it

[@personaphantom5543]

I'm upset they didn't add the best Persona 5 music like Life Will Change, Rivers in the Desert and Blooming Villain.

[@yeahitsscott]

Rivers in the Desert is in the game tho

[@VikingBoyBilly]

Your segment about the brickster had me LMAO

[@FragsONeil]

Dubstep Saria's Song as the generic KZbin intro was fucking gold

[@banotato5270]

Written by vivziepop

[@hwgwrestling9203]

Nah he's actually funny

[@MashupProductions22]

​@@hwgwrestling9203 nah hazbin and helluva is funnier then this

[@Miss_Heed_Lover]

​@@hwgwrestling9203 You must be pretty brain dead if you found this funny. Even for "humor is objective"

[@stinger6435]

Don't ever change hypercharge!

[@metroidman3893]

Dude your videos are great. Been binging them a bit and you can always tell the mark of some truly funny content is when you're busting out laughing when completely alone. You've earned my sub good sir. 👍 (Your Star Fox retrospective had me in tears, I'd never known anything about Command, but goddamn those endings, holy shit.)

[@chronotrigger6746]

His description of xenogears chronicles 2 makes me want to play it.

[@SenanSerat]

Man, I missed this channel good to see its still around.

[@SuperParkerBro27]

This video is so well edited, idk how people are not happy with this roster even if some characters didnt make the cut,. Amazing video

[@SuperflyMiceguy]

This is a funny ass video. Also, yay you know of Klonoa! Klonoa is not popular at all but with how much Bandai Namco likes to put hidden Klonoa stuff in their own games I’m honestly kind of surprised he didn’t show up as a Spirit.

[@supermax9007]

Honestly, Super Smash Bros would've been better if the franchise kept being only Nintendo Characters. The true identity of the series was that it's a celebration of the history of Nintendo and shoving in too many Third party characters makes it overkill and now it feels like M.U.G.E.N. rather then the actual Nintendo franchise about Nintendo All-Stars since the beginning.

[@HyperCharge]

Yeah, I do think they've put themselves in a bind with having all these third party characters and I'm not sure how the sequels will turn out.

[@theperians]

Meh i prefer this, since it makes different communities of games together. And a celebration of video games is SUPER cool for any ages.

[@supermax9007]

@@theperians Making different communities of games may be true but that doesn't change the fact that it loses the aspect of what made Smash Bros accessible. In general at least.

[@theperians]

@@supermax9007 eh not really. And even if it did stick with Nintendo, it would be to the point were only adding enemy type characters bc even now, they are running out of first party characters

[@PoseidonLord-oy5zl]

Someone doesn't get this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/el66onyraaqFoKc

[@Thebadlamp]

Rex wasn't included because of alleged technical difficulties with rendering rex/pyra/mythra and spring man wasn't because min min was more popular

[@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295]

Also Min Min was a personal request by part of the ARMS director.

[@koiyune]

no, im pretty sure spring man wasn't considered because he was already an assist trophy

[@ShinPepsiman]

I loved a lot of points you make. Plus you're not afraid to talk shit either which is a big plus nowadays

[@Pine2142]

Lads I have a pretty small guess that he might not like XC2

[@clovis-]

NOT THE ZELDA TEE AND KHAKI CARGO SHORTS NINTENDO FAN

[@willpoweramv]

I rocked that shit in middle school

[@HyperCharge]

Any Nintendo branded $15 t-shirts you can buy at Target are fire

[@xsteven77x]

You make me weak I'm so excited for this!

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

It’s ok if y don’t like a character, but let’s not act like Edelgard isn’t a deep character. She is a very well written character and plenty of people often express why, and I rarely see people say that it’s about her looks. Also while there are a lot of people who dislike her for some of the things she did, there are even more people that likes her because of her writing. The only Edelgard that I can see being considered a bad character is Crimson Flower route. Also I remember alot of people wanting Edelgard in smash because she uses an axe and would be another antagonists/anti hero smash character. Don’t mislead these people

[@luisreyes1963]

Maybe, but Elma's hotter....😉

[@WinspearUltima]

Let me just say this now, cloud was not the last character to get in, this was just a stupid fan rule the fans have came up with so it dosent count.

[@bigpete2895]

25:42 I think SSBU made a point about adding more villians to the roster, so I believe that more antagonists/rivals need to be added for franchises that don't have one already. It would allow for characters like Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh/Porky or Masked Man. But then again most Nintendo fans don't care about these characters and would rather have bandana waddle dee, waluigi, captain toad, dixie kong (lame characters) etc. Also "Rosterf*gs don't play Smash"

[@MagicRooster41]

You are always woth the wait. Thank you for coming back

[@ayar2]

Ill normally think of rants as pathetic, but this one was pretty entertaining, funny and unapologetic, then again, I never take rants seriously anyway, also, at last someone understands how the characters are mainly balanced, cant keep up with the electric rat? throw a friggin Bob-Omb at him ¡¡

[@MrDrzjayrod358]

Saw the whole video and honestly I was so Fucking impressed by how everything was done here and in regards to pass 1 it actually did a better job introducing me to more franchises (except fire emblem because I hated the gameplay of the franchise) And when you brought up banjo, that was where my childhood sin was as I did own an N 64 but I never got banjo kazooie But after playing it I realized I missed out on something amazing in my childhood and when it comes to Sora’s inclusion to me he was a fucking banger a 10 out of 10 because I love the kingdom hearts franchise and if it wasn’t for kingdom hearts I wouldn’t have learned about Final Fantasy and it’s impact in gaming also to see Mario and Sora shake hands just made me cry tears of joy everytime but your 7/10 is perfectly fine too as for fans 7 is pretty significant to the franchise and from this my dude you’ve definitely earned a subscriber in myself looking forward to what is next for ya

[@n64danny21]

All your rants have me tickled pink lol

[@aaawolfgang9569]

there are times where you rant on something for so long that I forget we’re talking about smash bros dlc

[@heymanwhatsgoingon]

I’m so Happy Steve and Sephiroth got in

[@jmurray1110]

Apparently the arbs thing was also due to the SNK leak due to there copyright being found on a document before terries release

[@Maru-dm7rh]

Holy shit, 1h30min of a Hypercharge video? 2022 is gonna be fucking amazing.

[@Ph4ntomHourGlass]

I literally stopped doing everything I was doing just to watch this!

[@JoelJoel321]

Damn, now I want Brickster in Smash.

[@luisreyes1963]

Donkey. 🤡

[@Rmcrace2319]

I’m still so happy with the roster that we have and I hate that people do nothing but complain without being grateful for all that we were given. And for the record, Banjo and Crash have been my dream characters my whole life. I’m so happy Banjo was included and while yeah, it does suck that my favorite character isn’t in the game, I’m so happy Banjo was. And also, I didn’t play a crash game until after I played smash 4. So I’m not blinded by nostalgia whatsoever

[@notenoughgarlic]

Good to have you back dude! But uh, starting the video with a Shadow diss? Here I thought you LOVED Tony the Tiger 😂. Good ass video man. Love the Stinky Fans pic, still cracks me up.

[@HyperCharge]

Shadow caught a stray for no reason

[@PoseidonLord-oy5zl]

And someone cries over this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/el66onyraaqFoKc

[@izumipilled]

The Fortnite rant was pure fucking gold

[@TricksterLawlet]

I want people to define what a party game is. The term is so broad

[@tiffyw92]

As an encyclopedic fan of Ace Attorney, I appreciate how popular Phoenix Wright was as a candidate for the Smash roster. He's a character from a goofy enough franchise to fit with the general vibe of Smash, and people loved that he was included in UMvC3. I did too. It was really fun watching players like Lythero consistently grief online players with one of the lowest-tiered characters in the game. But he was always my meme pick. I never seriously considered him simply because he's already been in UMvC3. First of all, the way they implemented him and Maya in that game is hilarious in both how out of place they feel and how bad they are in viability. Normally I don't care too much about the competitive meta of fighting games, but in this case, it's exactly by design that they're made to be gimmicky and fun and thus unreliable. Nick is always forced to rely on his signature gimmick that it becomes a crutch. Maya helps a bit, but she's locked to two moves, the shield and the unblockable, and Nick can only survive for so long. They're meant to be the "Dan" of the roster and it shows. If they actually added the duo into Smash, I have little doubt that most of that moveset would carry over to this game, with maybe some extra touches from Project X Zone 2. But ultimately, we would have ended up with yet ANOTHER DLC character with an absurdly unbalanced comeback mechanic. It might be a unique one, but integrating the evidence from UMvC3 would also feel a little too much like Steve's mining in this game. I was also afraid that such a playstyle would only make Nick feel "toxic" to play against, especially on Smash's notoriously bad online. I'm still a bit disappointed that no AA representation made it into Smash, not even as Assists or Spirits or a post-FP spirit battle event, but it's fine. It's still a relatively niche franchise of Capcom's, so it makes sense that Dante and the Monster Hunter would make it in as Mii costumes before Phoenix would. Besides, the main reason I got invested into Smash at all was because 64 was hectic fun back in the day and I loved all of the hype reveals (note: the hype reveals, not every one). I was stunned by Megaman and Little Mac's beautiful trailers, Palutena's had some amazing 2D animations, and I actually squealed at the Belmonts' reveals - a thing I rarely do. Cloud and Sephiroth have been my childhood for 24 years running too, so all else was just a nice bonus. What the hell, they didn't have to go that hard on Seph's trailer. They literally remade the climax to Advent Chlidren. I still rewatch it to this day. People say Sora's trailer was more hype? Nah. It was ceremonial for sure, but it barely showed who Sora was and focused more on the fact that he got to shake hands with Chris Pratt. Sephiroth just went around killing everyone and that's all we need from him. But above all, between him and Kazuya, we practically already have Edgeworth and Phoenix in Smash. GG.

[@k-leb4671]

Wait, how do we have Edgeworth and Phoenix in Smash?

[@tiffyw92]

@@k-leb4671 It's a joke. Sephiroth has the silver hair and bangs like Edgeworth and Kazuya has the slicked back pointy hair like Phoenix. He even got that gentleman's suit alt. And I think Seph is edgy enough to be "Worthy" too, if you know what I mean.

[@pacegraciejiujitsuacademy8291]

It would make more sense for jill valentine from resident evil to be in smash and not phoenix Wright because resident evil is one of capcom's most successful videogame franchises of all time

[@tiffyw92]

@@pacegraciejiujitsuacademy8291 I know Jill has been relevant in the series for longer, but I think the Resident Evil pick would have gone to Leon Kennedy, since he's really popular and a common pick among the possible Capcom reps.

[@UltimateHedgehogShadow]

Im so glad someone said it, love u hypercharge

[@camharkness]

This randomly showed up in my recommendations and you surprised me. I thought this was going to be you getting mad at Sakurai, but no, you're mad at the toxic fans. Genuinely surprised. Also well put together.

[@michaellee4463]

Same

[@ThomastheDankEngine8900]

Hope this increases your subscriber count. You need more man!

[@julianx2rl]

1:28:33 - I love this part so much.