The Ultimate Super Smash Bros Roster Rant - Nintendrone

[@HyperCharge]

I kinda went a bit insane making this video, so hopefully everyone enjoys it! Hilariously enough, I went into this video thinking it would've turned out to be 10-minutes, but once again, it snowballed into insanity. I'm most definitely planning on doing a really short Uncivil Synopsis for the next video, because these lengthy endeavors have been kicking my ass! Still, with the Smash DLC coming out soon and with Super Smash Bros Ultimate possibly being the last game before a reboot, I kind of felt obligated to do this because it might be my last chance to cover this topic. Hopefully you guys don't get too upset at me hating you're character choices, cause honestly, I'm being really hyperbolic in this video and it really doesn't matter (AKA dickless nerd shit).

[@justthatguy9077]

Lmao

[@nerdwiz6065]

Steve deserves to be in smash tbh

[@HyperCharge]

Steve really does deserve to get in, but the thought of it makes me die a little inside. I suppose as long as Sakuria does a Minecraft character and keeps it classy, then it shouldn't be too big of a deal.

[@nerdwiz6065]

@@HyperCharge Tru, I agree with most of ur thoughts on the rediculously popular characters and feel like ppl only got excited for some because they thought the Grinch leak was real

[@HyperCharge]

@@nerdwiz6065 Yeah, I don't really blame them. The amount of effort that was put into the Grinch leak was a bit insane

[@BloopADoop]

Video summary: your character sucks and i am very angry. (repeat for one hour and thirty minutes)

[@IcyDiamond]

Bloop-A-Doop Now you don't need to watch the video

[@matrixground]

He was pretty positive to some characters like lyn

[@Midsommarss]

And I will add to it "except my one characters because I fucking like them"

[@maibignutt6434]

thx for the info

[@AnarchoTak]

Thanks. The argument is invalid too because characters like fucking Wii fit trainer and piranha plant are playable. So like the video makes no sense. I am happy with the smash ultimate roster though

[@GameMasterWLC]

"Everyone's an idiot except for me."

[@linkinajar8676]

This hour and a half long video summed up.

[@Jqcksremmurd]

Totally not a joke and was meant to be taken seriously

[@wheatleyctp9764]

dickless nerds amirite

[@jamesblake5215]

"Well it's true." *Sips tea*

[@juicemanjimbo]

The whole video summarized

[@andyblargextra]

It is now November 2020. Minecraft Steve, Min min, Sans costume, Banjo, and another Fire Emblem character are DLC. I wonder what his responses were to them all.

[@anthonystrangio]

And Kazuya which is close enough to Heihachi and literal Sephiroth

[@SrMechaGojira93]

Don’t forget Pyra & Mythra

[@zacharyjohns9160]

And now Sora!

[@Royalty-eb7xj]

>Doesn't want Crash because he's irrelevant >Wants Banjo *LMAO*

[@HyperCharge]

Listen, all I'm saying is that at least Banjo and Kazooie would have an interesting moveset. Like, sure, you could add in Crash if you want to spin around like a fucking dumbass and break crates, but I actually want a character that would be fun to play.

[@MachineMan64]

@@HyperCharge Up B: Jetpack (Crash 2). Down B: Supercharged bellyflop (Crash 3) Neutral B: Spin/Tornado Spin (Crash 1,2,3) (Can be used as a Horizontal Recover) Side B: Bazooka (Crash 3)

[@kazoorion7993]

Crash doesn't just to limit himself to spin and break crates, he also has other abilities like the ones that MachineMan64 mentioned.

[@MusicJunkie37]

Crash for Smash God damnit!

[@jiancosta9042]

Lol

[@DidYouKnowGamin]

I HIGHLY recommend Golden Sun (+ Lost Age). It's the best JRPG on the GBA.

[@Camtube03]

DidYouKnowGaming? Woah

[@HyperCharge]

I'll add it to the list!

[@kazoorion7993]

How in the world is doing a huge channel like you here? :0

[@miselojaime2214]

DYKG is actually subscribed to this guy, that's pretty dope

[@kazoorion7993]

When a huge channel subs to you, you know your content is actually really REALLY good, even if you don't have that many subs.

[@sopashii]

Ok I want him in smash Moveset: screaming at you repeatly

[@samcrumpit3081]

Sakurai said he wanted Rex in. And XB2 did great. Hes a 1st party, relevant, and popular. All you cited was your own confirmation bias and disdain for his aethetic. A Rex fan can make a great objective case for him.

[@HyperCharge]

Oh no, they'll probably get in at some point, I just really hate the art-style for Xenoblade 2.

[@mr_smiles4213]

Big boobies!!!

[@ihatestairs9034]

Sam Crumpit Rex is also an assist trophy lmfao

[@samcrumpit3081]

@@ihatestairs9034 he isnt. Also, this is a discussion about whether or not they deserve to get in smash or if they were likely.

[@xenophacilus5895]

I bet he'll be the first revealed in DLC pack 2... if there is on- You know what? Smash is BIG. There WILL be a Fighter's Pass 2 and REX will be the first revealed character there. I'm calling it. REMEMBER this reply cause I am Calling it! xD

[@dominicemerald387]

“God I hate those basement dwelling smash fans who aren’t grateful for the roster” *proceeds to complain about the roster for an hour and a half straight*

[@retro7535]

he was mainly complaining about the characters people wanted

[@oranghue6866]

give this man “retro killer” more likes than op because he actually paid attention to the video.

[@retro7535]

@@oranghue6866 thanks man kinda out of left field but thanks :)

[@baggelissonic]

Watches 5 minutes of a 1 hour and a half video. Proceeds to make an irrelevant comment

[@m3ttleheart125]

His comment was literally about him complaining about what people wanted , so how was the comment irrelevant?

[@acidity2k486]

Why did people take this seriously and dislike the video lmao

[@occamsaturn]

I just disliked it because anyone who uses the r word disappoints me

[@TripleR6000]

Briqt Wemmde any who complains about words disappoints me

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

the hoes be mad

[@Jean_Jacques148]

I agree with him but he was being kind of a jerk

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

@@Jean_Jacques148 thats the thing about him

[@WorKSimi]

You literally complain about people complaining about the roster and then complain about Dr Mario and Dark Pit because you don’t like them.

[@theweridothatyouhaveseenso4486]

WorKSimi true

[@XRyXRy]

they just weren't lucky enough to be called echo fighters because they were just barely enough different LOL

[@personma6653]

Dark pit is an echo

[@Cabanela]

He also called my main/bae Mr. Game and watch d-tier trash, which is untrue.

[@blaster.m1943]

Dark Pit is just Pit but more "Punishing" -but yeah his character suck so bad that even his theme is better than him-

[@cmgvillager]

You can be disappointed that your character isn't in *BUT* You can't be mad at the game nor hate it because your character didn't make it in

[@iregretsomeofmypreviouscom3284]

You can always be dissapointed with a character that isnt in. It just DEPENDS on how you Say it.

[@ChaudTheGamer]

But the community mocks people if their character got deconfirmed much like the guy in this video did to Shantae....it's sad :( I don't like Steve but I don't hate Smash Ultimate for putting him in! I just don't play because of how terrible the community of Smash is and how they went way too far with harassing us who's characters we wanted got screwed over...

[@rubyrogers8879]

I would say you can hate it, just don't be a jerk. Tho uh we really need to say the same to the other side because like the comment above me...people are jerks about deconfirmation. You can't tell someone to stop punching when they're being punched by a crowd. Just cause someone is sad their character isn't in the game....doesn't mean it's suddenly ok to bully them. Really wish Smash fans got that message

[@Lola-of-the-Stars]

As much as I love Bandanna Dee you're actually right, people mostly want him to complete the quartet from Return to Dreamland. Really if any Kirby character would be easy to put in the game, Sakurai could just include Galacta Knight as an Echo for Meta Knight and call it a day.

[@bigtj4]

;( Let us dream.

[@M3rtyville]

Or Neptunia. Honestly I don't care who gets in. Everyone from the previous games are her so I am happy

[@TheRealKirbo]

I think all Kirby fans are happy that Galatic Knight is a coustume for meta knight

[@kirbytheartist3318]

Never was a fan of Paper Mario getting into Smash anyways.

[@bedazzlebub967]

Kirby the Artist I feel like G&W already kind of is Paper Mario: Flat Uses a hammer Pretty quirky The only thing that’s different is that G&W doesn’t have any partners!

[@brachmindunsparce6044]

@@bedazzlebub967 they should make a paper mario costume for G&W.

[@metamarx8409]

How dar yu

[@TheAbsol7448]

I think Mario&Luigi as an Ice Climbers type duo would be way more interesting mechanically than Paper Mario.

[@kirbytheartist3318]

@@TheAbsol7448 But what's the point of having Mario and Luigi together if you can ALREADY play as Mario and Luigi? Seems kinda pointless.

[@dfx5886]

This video is one of the best comedy acts I've ever seen. The lack of research for most of these characters is hilarious, along with how you insert your own opinions into Sakurais and act like he shares your very flawed viewpoints. Also, the strawmanning of multiple fanbases is even funnier than your other bits! Finally, I LOVE how you break your rules constantly and put you and your opinions in as reasons why characters shouldnt get in! A fair and balanced video for sure, my friend! Keep on doing what you do, you glorious man, you!

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Cope

[@INFERNO95]

DoodleFox McGee Like other people on youtube don't do the same thing.

[@Zeissus]

INFERNO95 doesn’t make this video any better tho

[@iamjigzzy]

DoodleFox McGee idk if you’re being serious or not, but I love this vid because it’s just sooo bad. Legit

[@joemamajoastar8708]

This comment was pretty funny how you didn't see how a lot of it was a joke

[@simonvpc8886]

lets be real here... sans might be a good assist trophy... some bones... blasters...change gravity...just saying....

[@Caleb_Amamiya]

Agreed that's what I was thinking

[@heavenwilkes7837]

STHU

[@Meltedge]

A bunch of 10 year old fortnite gamers wants to know your location

[@treeizure7821]

He’d be a good boss imo

[@moonhead538]

Sure. And they might as well add in purple guy from FNAF as a playable character right? Circus Baby as an Assist Trophy too and Springtrap as a World of Light boss fight.... gimme a break...

[@rhyth_twisted]

51:20 Alright, time to make a comment that the creator of the video won't even read. I understand why you feel this way, even chuckled abit, but lemme tell you my opinion. Look, I get it. On the base, Joe and the Chorus Kids don't have much moveset potential. Hell, I'm in the minority that wants Joe instead of Chorus Kids. But think of characters like Mr. Game & Watch or Duck Hunt. Who said they were only entitled to their select few of minigames? Rhythm Heaven is a massive minigame compilation that has a colorful pallet of unique and weird scenarios. Some of those could be referenced in a moveset for smash, like I mentioned, how Game & Watch references minigames in his series. A point that most people don't bring up however is the lack of rhythm game representation in the game. Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly fine with having them not make it, but out of the 70 characters in Ultimate, how many characters represent a greatly current genre of video games? None of them, and don't even get me started on DK's old Final Smash. Edit: To rival your "No-one knows this franchise" argument: Think of how many characters you could say the same for if Smash didn't shine light on them! Captain Falcon, R.O.B, Pit. You'd be lying if you told me you knew who Ness was before Super Smash Bros hit the scene.

[@HyperCharge]

The logic I usually go with when I think of good Smash characters is that they would play exactly the same as they do in their respective series, so when I see people request characters like Ashley, Chorus Kids, and other characters that don't really do anything, I sort of just don't get the point. I mean, when Bayonetta, Simon, Ryu, and the Inkling were included in Smash, it was like you were playing as those character, but in Super Smash Bros, which I think really improves on the aspect of a video game cross over party game. I mean, if you want to have a giant cross-over, you'd want the characters to feel exactly like they do in their respective games, so when Sakurai creates movesets not based off the character's actual abilities, I just don't think it's as interesting. That's why I always found Ganondorf to be kind of disappointing as a Captain Falcon clone, because he doesn't do any of those attacks in The Legend of Zelda. It's like, sure, Ganondorf is in the game, but it was at the cost of not being true to the source material. I mean, even as obscure as a pick as ROB is, at least they shoot the same toys they interact with as projectiles. It's not perfect, but it's an inclusion that feel more genuine to what ROB actually was. I guess I wouldn't mind the Chorus Kids being included with a made up moveset based off of the Rythem Heaven mini-games and it would work just fine, but I guess I'm just not as excited by the prospect when you could include a ton of other characters with more genuine abilities. I mean, I'm not all too excited about Piranha Plant either, but at least the abilities are all based off of the multiple incarnations of Piranha Plant from the Super Mario series. It took the potted Plant version from 3D World, some of the poison abilities, the projectiles, the ability to extend it's body, and it all comes together well enough and isn't entirely made up from the get go (besides some of his tilt attacks) At the end of the day, I guess I just prefer characters that feel more authentic.

[@sebastianw.7254]

I thought I was the only one that wanted Karate Joe instead of the Chorus Kids

[@sagegang7439]

What if i told you i knew who ness was before smesh

[@redlink8734]

@@sagegang7439 are you a Pugu worshipper because of Mangs?

[@orangeslash1667]

@@HyperCharge Fun Fact: Xenoblade 2's art style was very well like in Japan, why because Japan loves anime.

[@harikjay8825]

58:40 well Sakurai himself said he wanted to put Rex in the game soooooo...

[@Caleb_Amamiya]

Same with Geno

[@kshayes6935]

And the chorus kids

[@ImPyroChad]

@@Caleb_Amamiya that was back in 2007

[@drock6444]

For some reason, I can’t stop rewatching this thing over and over! I love it so damn much

[@salsaandbrwx1449]

Ikr!

[@61ozneakaenzo16]

5 years later and this is still true

[@Ah-dz5rf]

>Perfect character >Solely related to Nintendo Dude, shut up

[@SuperNobody64]

No shit you bozo

[@DTheHedgehog]

so is nobody gonna talk about "acca"

[@ArcueidBrunestudTypeVampire]

It's pissing me off and some others are talking about it.

[@keyonj8815]

It doesn't really bother me

[@justsomepregosaucetm5159]

Lol

[@redlink8734]

He does it so the video isn't as long so we don't get as mad at him for like 20 seconds

[@kurty5435]

This drove me insane.

[@ChampionofGamingRETRO]

Hypercharge: Super Smash Bros Ultimate has the craziest roster in any video game ever. Lego Dimensions: Oh Yeah?

[@memutahar1]

Wait you have a point

[@_GLXC]

Fortnite:

[@oldieal7032]

"geno would be a stupid pick as he is irrelevant and from one game many years ago" "yeah ice climbers are a good pick"

[@HyperCharge]

Ice Climbers are a shitty pick, but game play wise, their at least the most interesting out of all the other niche/weird-ass characters. Basically, their unique moveset makes up for how shitty they are. I don't necessarily have a problem with Geno's moveset potential, but there's so many more interesting characters you could add instead that I don't see him as a high priority pick. He's also incredibly over-hyped all things considered and the only point I really made in the video is that he's not that special. At the end of the day, don't really care either way. If he's in, then whatever! If he's not, then that's fine!

[@justashyguy2889]

What's done is done

[@brenn1674]

@@HyperCharge He's a wooden puppet with an arm cannon. How is he not special?

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

@@brenn1674 aparently not more special than a plant with teeth

[@brenn1674]

@@leeeroyjenkins555 apparently :(

[@raiandox]

Boy, you must be fun at parties.

[@CJ-ot1jc]

Raiando Belmont Lol thats saying he even gets invited.

[@octodude3358]

*kicks down door* “OK WHO WANTS TO PLAY?” *Sits down on couch even though he wasn’t invited* “Ok what character do you think belongs in smash?” Someone else: “I think I would like to see Crash.” *gets mad* “LIST HERE YOU STINKY SMASH FAN.”

[@Supersayainpikmin]

"Local nerd angry at fans for wanting their favorite characters in a crossover game"

[@MusicJunkie37]

I'm sorry but what? Crash Bandicoot & Spyro & Rayman aren't related to Nintendo? How about the exclusive Crash & Spyro games on GBA? Rayman also had Rayman Advanced, Rayman 3. They've also had ports of their games on Nintendo consoles like the GameCube.

[@HyperCharge]

I'm not denying that Crash and Spyro aren't related to Nintendo, but that by the time they were on Nintendo consoles, both of their series were becoming really mediocre. The peak of their popularity was definitely on the Playstation, which is why I always associated them with Sony instead of a multiplatform franchise. I suppose as far as Smash is cornered, it doesn't really matter if those games were good or bad, but it was just something I wanted to bring up. Rayman's definitely my favorite out of the three, but he's just not a high priority pick for me.

[@MusicJunkie37]

@@HyperCharge I'd love for Crash & Rayman to be in Smash. They're my top picks. Also Crash's GBA games were definitely not mediocre imo, not sure if I can say the same about Spyro & Rayman though. Still.. I like your content and cool to see you upload again!

[@WilliamAlexYoung]

Crash's remake has done pretty well on Switch though. That said, it's worth being realistic. Crash sadly isn't huge in Japan and Rayman is a spirit (rip).

[@ihatestairs9034]

William Alex Young Crash actually sells very well in Japan, it’s pretty much known as the first American made game to do well over there.

[@NicolasAndrade-zn1wo]

@@HyperCharge Cloud Strife and Joker say Hi

[@superthomasgaming]

I enjoyed the video, but I have to disagree with most of this video. It just feels like a bashing session on others opinions. You contradict yourself so much. “There’s not enough games on Nintendo consoles.” Did that stop Joker?

[@FranMod]

Yes All video contradicting himself

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

Hey people, how about we do the actuall smart thing and replace *fucking. Dr. Crapio.* with waluigi? Ehh?

[@virginloser4850]

@@linkinajar8676 Piranha Plant is a god.

[@aggressivepianonoises813]

VirginLoser bold of you to assume Piranha Plant is just a god.

[@sagegang7439]

@@virginloser4850 funny seeing you here lol

[@dkgame2255]

Characters mentioned here that got in, Banjo-Kazooie, Steve, Pyra, Sephiroth, a Tekken rep which ended being Kazuya, and Sora.

[@miguelgarces8946]

Only Banjo-Kazooie and Pyra/Mythra should have got in, these other characters, no way.

[@paulwilliams5949]

@@miguelgarces8946 sorry bro you in the best timeline

[@raidoukuzonoha883]

@@miguelgarces8946 Steve is important so is Kazuya and Sephiroth lol keep crying

[@bruxtle]

Plus sans, geno and doomguy if you count miis

[@Azureblue25]

In hindsight I’m grateful that all of these characters ended up getting in the game, although I think a slight difference would’ve made the game even better, Shadow as an echo fighter instead of Richter and making Richter an alt skin for Simon, Piranha Plant or Paper Mario as the one off first DLC character, then with fighters pass 1: Joker, Dante, Banjo & Kazooie, Kazuya, Byleth, then fighters pass 2: Min Min, Steve, Sephiroth, Pyra & Mythra, Dr. Eggman and lastly ending with Sora.

[@unhingedelbows2907]

Your point about Bandana Dee would have been valid if Bandana Dee wasn’t a main character, if Bandana Dee was already in, and people were asking about Marx or Magolor, then your point would have been valid.

[@HyperCharge]

Yeah, I suppose that's true, but do you really think that Marx or Magolor will get in before Waddle Dee? I guess the logic I was trying to get across was that the more popular a character is, the more likely they will appear in Super Smash Bros. I mean, it's been so long since Melee came out, but were people really requesting Marx before Meta Knight or King Dedede were in? I suppose the way I see it is that Marx is somewhere on par with Waddle Dee in importance in the Kirby series,, but more people are just rallying behind Waddle since he's the fourth most popular character. Not to say that people don't want other Kirby characters as well, but I think that Waddle Dee is the most logical choice to be included next (while also being the most highly requested by the fans). That's why when I was talking about The Legend of Zelda, there really isn't a logical choice to include next, because in the importance of The Legend of Zelda, all the side characters are sort of on par with each other. People really want Skullkid next and a lot of people want other Zelda characters as well, but I wouldn't say that Skullkid has the same kind of importance in The Legend of Zelda as Waddle Dee does in the Kirby series. I suppose this logic doesn't work with everything, but I hope I'm getting the point across.

[@unhingedelbows2907]

HyperCharge I see what you meant, but you somewhat misunderstood my point. I meant that Bandana Dee is more important than every other Kirby character except for the three in smash and Dark Matter (and the entirety of Dark Matter are as large as planets.) while Marx, Magolor, etc. are all of less equal importance of the Kirby series, not just in popularity. Also people just want Skull Kid cuz he looks cool, And literally no other reason.

[@unhingedelbows2907]

DD dorsett The Ford GT GTE Kirby Super Star Ultra Kirby Return to Dreamland Kirby Triple Deluxe (only online functionality) Kirby Rainbow Curse (King Dedede and Meta Knight weren’t even in this game besides a few cameos) Kirby Planet Robobot (same as Triple Deluxe) Kirby Team Clash Deluxe (DDD And MK weren’t in these either) Kirby Battle Royal Kirby Star Allies These are all his important roles As for his cameos/unimportant roles Original Kirby Super Star Kirby Mass Attack Please learn how to either count or do research before you claim anything.

[@jaymemcgregor3165]

@@unhingedelbows2907 So apparently "important roles" means being an optional second player or a boss from an extra mode that dies in one hit.

[@unhingedelbows2907]

OKJ even then that would be 4 games

[@franjaff6919]

That Kingdom Hearts rant was nothing short of cathartic.

[@Megajmaster1000]

But missguided on the reason why longtime fans play the KH to this day

[@MetaDHedge28]

Actually, Sakurai himself said that a character has to originate from a video game, so no, Goku will never make it in. On the other hand, James Bond was considered for Smash 64, so you never know.

[@rabbidcrazy787]

James Bond originated from films not video games never make it in even if they had history with Nintendo.

[@MetaDHedge28]

@@rabbidcrazy787 Keyword: CONSIDERED

[@rabbidcrazy787]

@@MetaDHedge28 Why tho

[@MetaDHedge28]

@@rabbidcrazy787 Rare's GoldenEye game

[@julianx2rl]

Everyone knows for a fact that Goku is a stupid pic. But there's a character that's in kind of a grey area, Sora, a lot of people actually want him... But the fact of the matter is that his best friends are Donald & Goofy, so its like asking for that Kid from "Adventures in the Magic Kingdom" just because it was developed by Capcom.

[@twiilit_]

“In Zelda, which side character is the most important?” *points to Impa* But seriously, she could’ve been a Sheik echo with her Skyward Sword design. She could be more powerful and less agile, counteracting Sheik. Plus she has appeared in quite a few Zelda games. -Mentioned in Zelda I -Mentioned in Zelda II -Appears in Ocarina of Time -Appears in Oracle of Seasons and Ages -Makes a cameo in Wind Waker -Appears in Twilight Princess (if Impaz counts) -Appears in Skyward Sword -Appears in A Link Between Worlds -Appears in Breath of the Wild That’s 10 out of 19 games. Impa has appeared or been mentioned in half of the Zelda games. So she’s more than just a side character.

[@oldarchival308]

No, she's still a side character

[@PlasmaPea04]

Also hyrule warriors but thats not really a mainline zelda game

[@redlink8734]

Finally someone else points this out before I had to. And he still put Impa as C+ compared to other side characters.

[@genericanimeprofilepic1517]

Isn't she an old lady in most of those appearances though?

[@moonhead538]

Mention =/= appearance. Wow....

[@FinallyAlone]

Summery of this video. I hate all these picks, Unless sakuri seys ok. There I just saved you a hour and a half of your time.

[@notsheen9751]

SGT Wolf of course unless it’s dr Mario or dark pit

[@aaronrobinson9641]

Thanks for saving my time

[@FinallyAlone]

@@aaronrobinson9641 You are welcome.

[@CptTachyon]

Dunno how Banjo gets a free-pass from just about everyone. Almost as irrelevant as Geno, and he won't mean a thing to anyone who never owned a 64 (Pretty much anyone under the age of 20 by this point). He's a quintessential boomer pick. Also, he's not a big a gaming icon as you think he is. To put it into perspective, the first Crash Bandicoot, the lowest selling in the original trilogy, outsold Banjo's entire series combined. Moveset potential's real good, but I always found the whole 'history with Nintendo' to be mostly moot when you consider Snake (Yeah, he started in the NES, but people know him from Metal Gear Solid over the original Metal Gear titles), Cloud (A clear PS1 star) and Joker (Again, more of a Playstation character,) so the whole history with Nintendo advantage isn't a big factor.

[@chrisdippertheirateshitter2653]

Smash has a certain criteria to live up to it's not just a M.U.G.E.N fanfic to shove indie and platformer mascots that have nothing to do with Nintendo in because they happen to be cartoony video game characters. And don't we have enough "PlayStation reps" as it is?

[@supersmashbrudda3767]

Banjo and kazzoie are legends and I prefer them much more than Mario obviously sonic is my best character since I group up playing his games from one to the rest of them but banjo and kazzoie have been being thought about and suggested since melee that's a true fact and my opinion is if you think about it dlc will be characters from games that AIN'T Nintendo so maybe a long shot but even goku could be in the game considering his a fighting character a popular suggestion and is also a well known character in Japan and we already know there fans of him for the fact on one of the videos they have figurines of dbz on the desk and even have them of skull kid too

[@salsaandbrwx1449]

@@chrisdippertheirateshitter2653 smash bros is basically "fan-service: the game" at this point so being mugen isnt that bad anyway.

[@papagarchomp6326]

@@salsaandbrwx1449 I think he only calls it "mugen" fanfiction when they suggest the characters he personally doesn't want. To him, Banjo is a fantastic pick that shouldn't be argued but somehow Crash bandicoot's inclusion makes the game a "mugen fanfic".

[@chrisdippertheirateshitter2653]

​@@papagarchomp6326 Is it wrong that I think it would be stupid to have Cuphead, Goku, Sans, and Crash in Smash? Also Banjo-Kazooie isn't even my top pick tbh. I will admit It would be nice to have a real N64 rep besides Villager though.

[@anthonyrubel4057]

Actually.....people enjoy Kingdom Hearts for its gameplay largely (yes the story is a cluster fuck but that's not why i play the series) also the Disney Renaissance characters and worlds are a great addition for nostalgia, as well as the Final Fantasy cameos. (Yes they are there as fan service, but that's why fans love it so much) Also the games can be hard as hell on Proud Mode.

[@rayminishi689]

Lmao, they added in Final Fantasy characters for the brand assist. Aka, Kingdom Hearts would be awks for fans if it DIDNT have any FF characters.

[@Stuyarmy]

What the majority of fans like it for its story

[@arianagrandefromfortnite]

It's gameplay is terrible people do NOT like it for it's gameplay. Literally all I've seen about KH3's gameplay is that it is boring. It apparently feel very satisfying to use the special Disney moves (when they don't fuck up your view of the fight) but it all boils down to pressing X a lot. Which is the same for the rest of the games, big surprise

[@quolai5262]

Take a shot everytime he shows "Stinky Smash Fans"

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

Forty seconds in and my head hurts.

[@drpercocet9832]

Guess im dying of ethanol poisoning

[@Freashplayer]

Thanks a lot. I died of alcohol poisoning. I'm currently writing this comment from the afterlife. Iwata's here too. He let me use his wifi so I could post this comment. He says "Hi".

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

@@Freashplayer Say hi to him for me.

[@Sean16YT]

Take a shot everytime he contradicts himself

[@JonYaBoii]

I never realised how many dislikes this video had. Some people just doesn't get this type of humour. After 2 years, I still come to watch this video when I need to laugh a bit. Thank you for being this kind of creator. I really love your work

[@namkwal]

currently, dislikes are 2400 compared to 3300, and honestly? i dont blame them even if this IS a type a humour(?), this just feels way too aggressive/toxic in general, it feels like he swears every 10 seconds. and before you tell me that i just get triggered by swears, no i fucking dont! it just feels a bit off when its said so often to me, really.

[@JonYaBoii]

It's not just about the swearing, it's about what he says while doing it. He is brutally honest and the fact that his character feels very confident in his saying is just like any humourist would do. Plus, he does back up his statement with facts that does makes him more credible It might not be your cup of tea, nor most people's too. I never said that these people were dogshit to not like that. I was only pointed out something that made me laugh a bit because I have a very strange sense of humour and I love seeing people like me online creating stuffs like this

[@liammcnicholas918]

@@JonYaBoiiSwearing is beside the point, AVGN made a career out of it, but he’s honest about the games he reviews.

[@miguelescobedo5112]

Goku is deconfirmed as a spirit sorry DBZ fans.

[@sethxenofightersofficialx]

Are you joking

[@starwarrior360]

@@sethxenofightersofficialx Nope, he's a primary spirit: www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_spirits_(Others)

[@speay6006]

Goku op man

[@iamjigzzy]

You don’t mean “Goku & Chao” do you? Cuz I don’t think that counts 😂

[@supersonicliaforcekeepsgam884]

Goku isn't even in super smash bros ultimate as a spirit.

[@bilis2866]

>fan see patterns in games >interpret those pattern as (made up) "rules" >get triggered when said "rules" are broken top-level autism here, I like this video.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

Hey, I have many autistic friends, and they're not all like this. I think he's just angry.

[@romanratliff8818]

The Smart-Casual Gamer. Hes both

[@DoctorCyan]

You wouldn’t, by chance, be a virgin?

[@Mr.Starpop]

This Video hasn't aged well.

[@Mr.Starpop]

@@crashingbasher7376 Yeah, they probably will

[@Rosie_Cozy]

TD Sonic but crash doesn’t deserve to be in smash dumbass

[@Mr.Starpop]

@@Rosie_Cozy May I ask why?

[@Rosie_Cozy]

Clownvin Dodofart because I said so

[@Rosie_Cozy]

Clownvin Dodofart 1:30:02

[@khybr]

You’ve clearly never seen anything related to Dark Pit beyond his design. He’s a completely different character from Pit, not just a recolor. Comparing him to pink gold Peach is the funniest shit I’ve heard in a long time, because that isn’t an accurate comparison whatsoever. I’m so sick of people talking shit about a character when they can’t even get the basic information of said character right. And the rhythm heaven bit was hilarious too. Do you seriously think anything you said about Joe and the Chorus Kids is valid when we have the ice climbers? Who the hell knew who they were pre-Smash inclusion? What the fuck do they do in their game other than climb? Yet they still got an entire moveset. They’re just as obscure as the rhythm heaven characters, yet here we are seeing them appear in their third smash game. There’s a lot more about this video I could talk about, but wow most of this hour long waste of time just screams ‘I don’t know what I’m talking about’.

[@llankyd7914]

Wooooosh

[@hitmontopguy621]

How is it a woosh? From what I can tell this video isn’t a joke and it’s just this dude being an asshole to anyone who wants any character

[@baggelissonic]

You found two parts of the video funny? Then that means that this video did its job right

[@llankyd7914]

Idk just feel like he isnt 100% serious about this. I think this might be a purposeful exaggeration.

[@whoplays7061]

@@llankyd7914 He seems pretty serious about his videos

[@Ivanhoenn]

Implying Chorus Kids, Isaac, Skull Kid and Mach Rider are meme picks. Also for someone who claims to have an objective process for deciding a character's validity, you sure like to inject personal opinions into your decisions and blatantly ignore game context when deciding if a character's moveset would be interesting. Also implying no one cares about F-Zero

[@woomy2343]

well i mean i don't know anyone who knows what F-Zero even is.

[@Anquavaous]

TheWild Pikmin How Anecdotal

[@Ozzient]

Why does this guy sound like he's related to Eddy from "Ed, Edd n Eddy"? lol

[@dinglepuss8594]

So a Rhythm Heaven character is too ridiculous and unorthodox for smash but Mr. Game and Watch isn't?

[@ditto6533]

I mean, Mr. Game and Watch kind of makes sense, seeing as he was a callback to the Game and Watch, Nintendo's first console.

[@dinglepuss8594]

@@ditto6533 I agree but I would also say that rhythm heaven is a significant enough Nintendo series to warrant a character.

[@ditto6533]

@@dinglepuss8594 Yep. I wouldn't mind the Chorus Kids.

[@doublesunday3922]

Literally no one knew what Rhythm Heaven was before Smash Ultimate. And you know it. Your in denial.

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

@@dinglepuss8594 I would say no. Is niche and has no historical value. Game and watch has historical value for nintendo. I confidently say that Mouth-perfect for blowjob kids arent gonna make it any time soon

[@heron9742]

Actually I would easily trade Daisy for Waluigi.

[@LordOberic1]

As someone who has always preferred Daisy over most other Mario characters when given the choice (Mario Kart mostly, lol).. yeah I'd take that trade. Waluigi has potential and can't be a clone.

[@brenn1674]

I'd trade Rosalina and Daisy just to get Waluigi in tbh, they didn't really need to be in smash

[@scarletempress7209]

lets just have both.

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

I wouldnt an I hate daisy. She is at least a charicter

[@heron9742]

@@thecrimsondragon2379 I'm sorry, do you think Waluigi is not a character?

[@YoshidoBombido]

I'm convinced that either HyperCharge leaked all the DLC with this video, or that Sakurai is adding characters in spite of him.

[@YoshidoBombido]

Yeah, that last fighter confirmed my suspicions.

[@luckyboomer8295]

Finally, someone in the smash community who has realistic expectations

[@justtheoscar]

Bandana waddle Dee is a highly requested character, and the 4th main character. He was even removed from Dee Dee Dees final smash. I don't want him but even I can see the importance

[@HyperCharge]

I don't want him super bad either, but if their going to add more Kirby characters, it's Waddle Dee for sure. That's kind of the hierarchy thing I was talking about

[@justtheoscar]

@@HyperCharge Yeah I was just confused with the way you said bandana Dee is just next cus "no one is left to pick from" and that's not fully true, because people wanted Marx just as much. And I'm glad he got representation as a boss.

[@rubyrogers8879]

@@justtheoscar Don't forget Magolor

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

He never was on ddds final smash

[@sonicandamyfan4ever]

@@leeeroyjenkins555 Look up the origin of his Final Smash and you'll see what he's talking about

[@oshkeet]

Ive literally never heard anyone pronounce AlsoKnownAs/A.K.A. as an actual word

[@Koyuki_Yukihime]

Unpopular opinion but reasonable , I agree with many of your reasoning. until you talking about Tales seires , Heihachi and KH. Dude it's fine to keep acting in character , but inserting in bias opinion is opposite of using reason. It just come out as you're being ignorance of those things.

[@countertopconfessions9975]

He's using the extremity to make his points as clear as possible. Points being: Tales is niche as all hell. It's a series only known by people who are really into the gaming scene. Smash isn't just for those types of people. The whole point of Smash is inclusivity. If Tales were Nintendo it would be different but as a third party pick it would be very much pointless and only please a very small percentage of those who ever play smash. He was a bit cut-throat with Heihachi but everything he said makes sense. When the game is being made by a man who can get Cloud Strife in, the fact that Heihachi is a much more attainable pick becomes moot. He wouldn't bring much to the table that Ryu doesn't. And Tekken is nowhere near as iconic as SF. And he actually brought up a *very* good point with Sora despite all the KH bashing. Say he makes it in. If he comes with Disney content it would sully the whole point of Smash - a celebration of video games - and be very unfitting. If he doesn't come with Disney content then they wouldn't be doing KH honest or remotely fair representation. Also, as a side note, KH does in fact have some of the worst writing, laziest voice directing, and contrived sentimentality I've ever seen in any work of fiction.

[@SuperMarioFan123311]

Tales is still oversaturated and considering Pac-Man doesn’t have any meterial from the PMW games? I’d be more welcoming of Klonoa at this point.

[@countertopconfessions9975]

@Xion Bagel The whole appeal of KH is the Disney stuff though. Disney stuff is the reason it was made and what the series is most known for.

[@Koyuki_Yukihime]

@@countertopconfessions9975 eh not really , if it's only disney and without FF the game never going to be this big. It got pretty much FF fan up to FFX hook with it first game. I don't know about other , but I myself couldn't care less about disney stuff , what i care about is it's own story , disney is just a add-on.

[@SuperMarioFan123311]

@Saotome Alto And before you use the excuse "Klonoa is niche as hell too and his franchise is dead"... Despite the franchise being "dead" since 2008, he's become more well-liked than Pac-Man. Not exactly the same as well-known but considering Pac-Man is currently in a dark age thanks to Ghostly Adventures, That should kind of say something.

[@drewlmao]

i think i see more people complain about people being mad about the roster than people actually being mad about the roster

[@samjupin1156]

"Everyone is dumb and their characters are bad" genuinely made me laugh

[@turtleanton6539]

Haha! But they ARE.

[@_elynas]

Literally only 2 people are complaining about the roster, sure some people might be upset that their character isn’t in the game, which is fair. But that doesn’t mean the majority of the fans are mad at Sakurai and his team. You’re really just focusing on the negativity

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

That's flat out misinformation

[@_elynas]

Mild Monster It’s not but alright

[@doublesunday3922]

2 people. 2 people. I'm gonna let you believe that.

[@frenchiestfry7458]

@@_elynas I have seen people all over online complain about their guy not being in and HUNDREDS of people bitch and say sakurai is lazy for not putting their favorite character

[@_elynas]

Frenchiest Fry it’s stil a minority, half of those are probably sarcastic anyway. Try again

[@PlasticKnight]

Manlet screams about something nobody actually cares about and things that nobody is actually mad about for an hour and 30 minutes

[@MrCastleburger]

SticyBoy *Hypocritical Manlet with superiority complex

[@salsaandbrwx1449]

Which is oddly addictive and fun

[@PlasticKnight]

@@salsaandbrwx1449 im not saying the game isnt fun im saying this is ridiculous as a smash fan

[@salsaandbrwx1449]

@@PlasticKnight no im saying that a manlet screaming about this is fun

[@PlasticKnight]

@@salsaandbrwx1449 oh ok sorry lmao

[@dubbie27]

Have to admit, this was pretty fun to watch, even though you dissed my most wanted DLC fighter (that even I think is really unlikely and weird) this was a good video

[@crazyasianjake7770]

do you, by chance, eat glue?

[@willdg8108]

crazy Asian jake yes it’s quite great

[@willow_pillow13]

Lmao

[@albumsco6498]

Comment of the year award goes to

[@blaster.m1943]

RelaxAlax reference?

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

mmm I love glue

[@vinegart3211]

I hate how he says A.K.A.

[@zeldrio6079]

I hate how he Calls Joker "The Joker" and Mach Rider "Mack Rider". I hope to god he was just calling them that for jokes (even though they wouldnt be funny).

[@EX30049]

Zeldrio isnt that the right way to pronounce mach rider

[@zeldrio6079]

@@EX30049 No Mach is usually pronounced "Mawk" or something like that, Id probably look up the word on google and it'll tell you.

[@dappitydingdong1219]

Zeldrio you are wrong

[@nickrichards6287]

Half of these points are blatantly wrong

[@bloodysushistudios]

Why are they blatantly wrong.

[@raheemaslam7363]

@@bloodysushistudios he says that sakurai is breaking the rules the problem is there are no rule other then no 4th party character

[@memutahar1]

COUGH undertale COUGH

[@strawhatandrew8341]

As I am watching you rant about Kingdom Hearts and Smash, everyone is hyped and playing Kingdom Hearts 3 and it's blowing up the internet. Also, you've clearly never played a Kingdom Hearts game before, and THEY DO have a history with Nintendo.

[@hildthehild]

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING!

[@davidtg803]

Ye

[@MrNickster115]

Finally a man who speaks English

[@JojovonKoopa]

No, they HAD a history with nintendo. They not have. That a difference.

[@Fojabass]

@@JojovonKoopa You could say that with Final Fantasy too though?

[@caseys2698]

"Every character anyone wants is inherently flawed and is FUCKING STUPID, and SHOULD and WILL NEVER be in Smash... UNLESS Sakurai approves them. Then it would totally fine."

[@salsaandbrwx1449]

Yes.

[@emibudd2228]

The Wonderful 101 would be either underwhelming, unfocused and extremely hard to use, OP, a nightmare to develop, or all of those at once.

[@luisreyes1963]

And that would ruin Funky Kong's chances of being the first LGBTQ+ character in Smash since Wonder-Red would usurp the honor. 🏳️‍🌈

[@jaymemcgregor3165]

I don't think you can just make a set of basic rules and apply it to the entire cast. The very fact that there are exceptions that apply to most characters should say that. There is no criteria; Sakurai and co choose characters for specific reasons. These specific reasons may often align with what you pointed out, but they don't have to. Sakurai loves Persona, and that's likely a major reason he chose Joker. Having one spinoff on the 3DS doesn't qualify for a rep in my eyes, if we're going by Nintendo relationships. Nintendo relationships can be a reason, like with Bayonetta, but it's not necessary if the character has other major reasons to be chosen. I think that instead of having specific rules, we should look at any and all reasons a character has and gauge their likelyhood or how much they "deserve" it off of that. Whether it be fan popularity, commercial success, hype/surprise factor, or any number of other things. Also, I don't think anybody gives Sans enough credit. He may be a joke, but he's also much more than that. His game is the most impactful indie game on the market, barring Minecraft. He has great moveset potential from his boss fight alone, and he's just in general a good character. If any indie character, again, barring Minecraft, deserves get in Smash, it's him.

[@poodoodrilldick7757]

Id be fine with someone making rule theories but going 20+ minutes with exceptions should tell you how factual your rules are.

[@deadlydeath3245]

Well relaxalax is the reason joker was in becaue he sent a message that joker should be in

[@doublesunday3922]

Do you think of Undertale, a game made by one person when you think of Indie games? Nah, me neither, I think of Shovel Knight.

[@jaymemcgregor3165]

@@doublesunday3922 Yes, yes I do think of Undertale. Not because of how many people made it, but because of how important it actually is. Shovel Knight is nowhere near as impactful as Undertale. Look beyond who made it and personal preference.

[@doublesunday3922]

@@jaymemcgregor3165 (I used to think of Minecraft, but that's not an indie game anymore.) If I had to be honest, the reason I don't want him in Smash is because I don't want the fanbase in Smash Bros, it's really cancerous, and I don't want them infecting my game. Plus, Undertale is a Western Game, and Japan barely acknowledges America (due to the fanbases, SJWs, feminists, etc.). So I don't think it's gonna happen.

[@PepperonibeatsZombie]

Since when was Isaac a meme character? People genuinely want him I don't understand

[@SuperNobody64]

Who?

[@koiyune]

Isaac from the Golden Sun ​series @@SuperNobody64

[@SuperNobody64]

@@koiyune I know that, but does society know that?

[@tobiasdahl7744]

I come back to this video every time they announce a new character. Laugh every time

[@truearea53]

Same here. I laughed so hard when they announced another fire emblem character that nobody wants. It’s like fire emblem has clouded their mind and it’s not enough for them 🤣

[@JonYaBoii]

This is probably why I love your rants. You are speaking with that inner chaotic evil voice without having any shame of overexagerating it for the sake of your video. The kind of humour that some people doesn't get a lot and yet, here you are bitching their personnal interests with concrete observable facts with no shame at all. Even tho, you have spoken about my most wanted character (Aka Bomberman) I still had a giggle when you mentionned him throughout the video. My favorite part about the video is when you ranted for about a hour and then : "...'cause apparently everybody suck dick at picking characters for smash, except for ME." What a way to bitchslap everybody who were probably already mad at you xD

[@kjone5086]

Lucas isnt a clone in my opinion. Every single move is either completly different or have one major difference to ness's move.

[@andrewbelmont665]

This video has aged beautifully.

[@donkeyman9992]

R.O.B is probably the only exception to the rule of "video game only" characters since he's not technically a video game character. Even the video games you use him for (Gyromite and Stack-Up) don't actually feature him in the game. However, he did show up as a bonus character for Mario Kart DS. Just a technicality, but some fun trivia I guess.

[@salsaandbrwx1449]

He is a toy, yes, but also a video game peripheral and was packaged with the nes, allowing it to be sold as a toy. He is just as important to video games and Nintendo as Mario (arguably). And he is exclusively related to video games with direct contact with video games (gyromite and stack up).

[@nerdkernels3398]

The arguement about skullkids moveset was hilarious

[@betablastr1512]

How? plz explain I'm just curious

[@felldoh9271]

They won’t explain because they know it’s a bad argument. It’s a perfect opportunity for Sakurai to use his imagination and suggestions from the Zelda devs on a kit for Skull Kid, on top of pulling from his kit in Hyrule Warriors. I mean this argument against Skull Kid is shaky at best because the roster could use another Zelda rep, the roster could use more villains, and Majora’s Mask is considered the best (or on par with Ocarina of Time) Zelda by a lot of fans (and for good reason).

[@christianvalentincota5452]

Banjo got in

[@armaansidhu1675]

so did Arms😢

[@funnyguy1059]

so did steve from minecraft 😑

[@koiyune]

and Pyra too (with Mythra)

[@Chinesetakeout382]

At this point, you’re just complaining about what people would like. It’s no better than some people wanting some characters. All you had to do was calmly say “some characters don’t have enough inspiration”. The developers have broken enough rules for character choices that you can really determines who deserves to get in. But your personality in the video is so angry that it’s really hard to take your opinions seriously.

[@obscureeli]

Asian Man yeah but it’s in his fucking personality and persona, his videos aren’t supposed to be that serious, and when he is serious he’s fucking calm

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

@TheEggMaster holy shit I found you on that byleth video. convenient

[@RinRinStrikes]

"When you're a small KZbinr you could shit on literally anything and be as stupid as possible because nobody would know so nobody would care" - some really big KZbinr I forgot his name (Prolly Idubz) You: *Hold my beer*

[@greyrifterrellik5837]

I kinda feel like personal bias blinded you a bit when discussing Sora (this is just my interperetation), so I’m gonna try and bring up a few details that show Sora does actually have some genuine potential, and meets most if not all of your previous criteria. First, I won’t deny that the series is a mess in terms of just how convoluted it is, and it being on so many different platforms, but it’s still a fairly beloved series and has had several games on nintendo platforms, so the history and popularity is there. Next, there is an ABSURD amount of moveset potential, without even needing to *touch* the disney stuff. He already has an unique fighting style just in the *way* he uses the keyblade. On top of that you could easily work in the various spells (which would have the bonus of bringing an extra bit of Final Fantasy representation, as that’s where they originally came from), as well as Sora’s drive forms. His final smash could easily be Final Form. Hell, it could even go for something involving the Gummi Ship and work just fine. Lastly, there are more than enough *original* locations throughout the series to pull a stage from that you can very easily steer clear of anything disney related. Destiny Islands, Traverse Town, Twilight Town, Hollow Bastion, Castle Oblivion, The World That Never Was.. The list goes on. In summary, there is more than enough to work with when it comes to Sora, and he’s popular enough and relevant enough that, while saying he’s *deserving* of a spot is up for debate, there’s no denying he’s at least *worthy* of a spot.

[@Caleb_Amamiya]

Exactly

[@rivermode]

I do think there is enough material regarding KH, but I feel like most people know it because of Disney aspects and not the original characters. Disney would be easy to avoid but having Sora without Disney Worlds/Characters would feel empty in my opinion.

[@slowpoke8585]

@@rivermode I agree! Sora would just not work. They could get rid of all Disney stuff related to Sora and we would get the stupid Sora fans asking "Duuhhh..... WHERE'S GOOFY AND DONALD!? DEY'RE IMPORTANT!!". Also, his moves just wouldn't be interesting. He could use magic, swing his Keyblade and....... that's it.

[@javiersaenz1040]

I love kingdom hearts but I associate the kingdom hearts games mostly on PlayStation than Nintendo

[@jeremyknight9980]

Well, he's the last DLC character for Ultimate.

[@UnknownJ25]

As someone who also wants Banjo we have no right to call other characters "irrelevant"

[@rabbidcrazy787]

Bruh moment

[@Brother_Piner]

Same here. I'd really love Banjo, but yeah, Sadly he's not a Nintendo property anymore. He's not had a new game in almost 20 years, and even then, his entire series sold less than the first Crash game, which sold the lowest of the trilogy. He definitely deserves a spot in Smash because of how iconic his games were, and the history with nintendo, but saying that's because of relevance is really incorrect.

[@rabbidcrazy787]

@@Brother_Piner Well Banjo is a Microsoft franchise now. However he still has a chance for smash since Microsoft is friends. If he was a playstation character it would be impossible for him to make it to smash especially if he was in PS all stars. Any character that's playable in PlayStation All-Stars is pretty much deconfirmed especially considering there's a rumor with minor evidence about Sony starting development on PlayStation All-Stars 2 in 2017 & expecting to release in 2020 for the PS4 & possibly a launch title for the PS5.

[@putridmoldyman306]

Did you see this video? He is astoundingly stupid.

[@greyrifterrellik5837]

“..each character is as important as everyone else.” Both Impa and Tingle have appeared in *SEVERAL* games in the series. FFS Tingle technically has his *own* obscure set of games. Meanwhile, Sheik’s a playable character despite only appearing in one game. Your logic on this particular point just doesn’t hold up, dude.

[@sethhughes7706]

you seem like the type of guy who makes fun of everyone he knows and then wonder why no one likes him

[@moonhead538]

Actually watch and listen to the video first and not comment after five minutes in.

[@sethhughes7706]

moonhead538 i did, i watched the entire video and hated almost every second. i was in a constant cringe state

[@a.liguria2698]

@@sethhughes7706 I honestly do not find anything cringe worthy in this video. He said right things in regards of things in regards of (the majority at least) of the characters he listed. The only thing I disagree with him is his opinion in regards of Dark Put and Dr. Mario and who he lists as clone, but that's not enough to invalidate the video

[@sethhughes7706]

A. Liguria he makes fun of what fans would like, it’s not likely to happen, but that’s why they’re fan picks. also i found the constant cursing and yelling to be really childish and cringeworthy. also he is extremely hypocritical by making fun of the people who want certain characters, yet he also wants random characters in the game.

[@Caleb_Amamiya]

Agreed

[@hallowknightmare9451]

I personally want Spyro and/or Crash in Smash. But I'm not gonna die if they never do end up in Smash.

[@iamjigzzy]

I gotta say, I love this video because it’s so terrible. The comedy, the analyses, the research and roster picks and how he contradicts himself at every turn; it’s all so bad that it sorta makes this rant entertaining. Nearly every opinion in this vid is profound, and that’s definitely refreshing. I subbed 😂

[@rpcprotogen4329]

If they can make snake fit, they can make the doom slayer and master chief fit.

[@florhrojas]

Yes

[@deepfried2654]

massa chef

[@dangerboatsouth4747]

I can understand your frustration, but if this isn't satire you should kinda chill out. I honestly thought you were just gonna start screaming into the mic for like 5 seconds or something. But other than that, can someone like go through the video and see how many times he says anything kind of swear. Because it felt like he couldn't go a minute with saying fuck. And that kinda concerns me.

[@TheAbsol7448]

The swearing doesn't bother me, but the harsh stomping and the hypocracy does. He's acting as though wanting an unrealistic character makes you a basement dweller who doesn't shower, and is incredibly ungrateful for Sakurai's work, which I disagree with entirely. I want both realistic and unrealistic characters, but I'm still very grateful for what he's done.

[@WanderKrew]

You’re clearly unfamiliar with his channel. This pure comedy.

[@TheAbsol7448]

@@WanderKrew He said in some comments that other than the angry character he's portraying, he's being dead serious.

[@nobodynone583]

WanderKrew if he was just joking why did he go full damage control in the comments? That’s not what someone who’s joking would normally do. While the video may be satire his comments aren’t. Even so for new viewers it’s not clear if it’s satire or not due to his contradictions in focus and points.

[@Curri3Saan]

WanderKrew if this is 'comedy' then good lord is it bad. It's pretty clear that he is being 100% serious in this video and venting anger at people on forums, if anything he symbolises the stereotype of a basement dweller better than the fans of these characters he hates so much.

[@dylandenmark8128]

Are ... You a gamer? Who doesn't know Bomberman?

[@UT-Chara]

Me

[@jondolio5861]

I lost so many brain cells while watching this video

[@bluemagic4381]

You had none to start with. Take it is easy tard.

[@Doger-pg5bm]

Tardersauce?

[@Shyguymask]

I agree about the whole "relevancy" thing. What people don't get about the "relevancy" argument is that it's not about being relevant *right now,* it's about being relevant or important *at some point during Nintendo's history.* King K. Rool is the perfect example. Golden Sun, while acclaimed by the people who played it, is really a niche RPG that didn't really get mainstream attention on par with other major releases/franchises. GBA was my childhood console and I played and discussed it for years and I basically didn't know Golden Sun existed until the "Isaac for Smash" movement started. All of this also applies to Geno. Despite what I just said, Isaac *at least* has his own series and is the protagonist of it, Geno is literally just a side character from an old Mario spin-off that didn't even nearly get as much attention as basically any relevant Mario characters. Even characters like Wii Fit Trainer and Duck Hunt were more recognizable than Isaac/Geno before they were made playable in Smash. I wouldn't be angry if Isaac was made playable in Smash but the "relevancy" argument is fully valid to an extent and is a good reason to *not* include characters like Isaac and Geno, they were never important, impactful or popular in Nintendo's history.

[@HyperCharge]

I think the reason fans are desperate to include niche characters like Geno and Isaac is because their inclusions could artificially increase the popular of said characters, and thus increase the chances of getting the next sequel to Super Mario RPG/Golden Sun. For example, Sakuria included Pit in Brawl, which allowed Sakuria to then develop a new Kid Icarus game, to then include even more Kid Icarus characters. You could even say the same thing about Fire Emblem. I also think the fans want their favorite games to be validated through Super Smash Bros, which I think is kind of an unhealthy way to approach things.

[@brenn1674]

Couldn't you also use this logic to approve Spyro in Smash?

[@sparkshock7940]

What about Ice Climbers though? They seem pretty niche to me, they only had one game.

[@Shyguymask]

@@sparkshock7940 Ice Climbers was one of the major games for the NES when video games were still recovering from the crash. Believe it or not, but more people remember Ice Climbers as a game than Golden Sun. There weren't nearly as many notable games in the NES era compared to the GBA/Gamecube era. They were also made playable because they brought something unique to the table. Golden Sun is neither an important part of Nintendo's history or a popular franchise.

[@sparkshock7940]

@@Shyguymask Hmm okay fair enough

[@treeizure7821]

“Something about doomguy and masterchief feels not nintendo” Yes because solid snake and sonic are such Nintendo characters.

[@countertopconfessions9975]

I know this is a sarcastic comment but honestly, it would make more sense without the sarcasm.

[@dappitydingdong1219]

Metal Gear originated on the NES and Sonic has always had close ties to Nintendo as a rival to Mario and later on Nintendo consoles

[@dorbacal]

In this entire 1 hour 32 minute video, he basically says you're an idiot for having a dream. He basically says you're not allowed to hope your favorite character gets into the game, and he's incredibly ungrateful for the characters we have in the game (despite how he started the video, calling other smash bros fans ungrateful). So basically an older, more obnoxious and annoying version of SammyClassicSonicFan. At least Sammy didn't swear. This guy doesn't even notice how often he says a swear word, he practically speaks like an edgy 12 year old who just learned of these words, because he can't say a single sentence without swearing. He acts as if everyone in this world who wishes for an unlikely character in Smash Bros is a complete moron and gives the ole "would it have a good moveset?" question, except instead of being a reasonable person like 99% of the smash community on Reddit and Discord, he rants for an hour about why your dream character is garbage, and calls existing characters in the game trash just because there's other existing characters who play similarly. Now let me remind you that we recently got Piranha Plant, the character absolutely no one expected for, because barely anyone, if anyone at all, wanted it in the game. That argument alone beats this entire video by a milestone. Now, finally, HyperCharge, if you took the time to read through this comment, despite how much I've insulted you, I have a request to ask of you. Please rethink a lot of what you've said in this video, and work on a better attitude - try not to swear as much, and please for the love of God, pronounce "aka" correctly. You're sure as hell passionate for video games and for videos on your channel and upload whatever you see is right in your eyes. I'm also not sure if you wrote a script for this video or not, but if you did, then good job, 1.5 hours of script isn't an easy job to do. This video must've taken a lot of time to make, but the problem with it is that, ultimately, you're calling everyone an idiot except for yourself.

[@arianagrandefromfortnite]

To summarise this person's comment; They have no idea what "summarise" means

[@anthonysarmiento974]

Here’s a 1 hour 30 minute summary about this 1 hour 30 minute video

[@jondolio5861]

Except they never said this comment is a summary...

[@dorbacal]

@@jondolio5861 Actually I did but I realized it's not a summary and so I edited it out, sorry for the hassle lol

[@jondolio5861]

​@@dorbacal Oof

[@cloudpunch6722]

To be fair his Goku argument was understandable

[@mightyvanquish9387]

i like the video but you miss a big point, smash has changed. it is no longer a celebration of just nintendo but gaming as a whole. So you cant say a character is bad because it is not nintendo. This is also why Goku should never be in the game because he is an anime character. Sometimes you need to remove a little bias to have a good opinion backed up with facts

[@zekelinguine3458]

Oh yeah yeah

[@407gabyr]

To be fair, you can make the argument that despite being licensed, some of the joke characters like Goku do actually have some sort of impact in gaming. In Goku's case for example, the dragon ball games are not only arguably the most well-known games based on an anime, but Budokai Tenkaichi 3 also still holds the record for the 2nd largest roster in all of gaming. (With Tobal 2 being the only one to surpass it) Or, alternately, to bring up another popular joke pick; Spongebob, Battle for Bikini Bottom has been largely considered to be the shining example of how to do a licensed game right and proof that not all licensed games have to be mediocre garbage. Granted, the fact that they're licensed still obliterates any chance of them appearing in Smash, (for now anyway, never say never) and this obviously doesnt hold true for every meme/joke character, but still. There are arguments to be made about their impact on gaming despite it not being the media type they orignated from.

[@mightyvanquish9387]

@@407gabyr I see that but of they would be allowed I that would open the floodgates for a 500 fighter list from all of fiction. I think it's a celebration of gaming and it should stay that way. Just my opinion though

[@407gabyr]

@@mightyvanquish9387 Perhaps. Though said, we are actually getting pretty close to having those floodgates open with Ultimate. Seriously, at this point, I'm pretty sure the only character types that have yet to appear in Smash in some shape or form are licensed characters, characters whose series have never been on a nintendo system in any shape or form, (Ex: Abe from Oddworld, Hat Kid from A Hat in Time, etc) and characters that are owned by other first party companies. (Ex: Banjo, Steve from Minecraft, etc) Shoot, indie characters are actually getting pretty close to being up for grabs for newcomers at this point if Shovel Knight being an Assist and Shantae being a Spirit are any indication. Almost kinda makes you wonder at what point does this end up just going from "A celebration of all things gaming" to "Lawyer-friendly MUGEN". (Not that I would mind the latter happening admittedly)

[@jrpzillafan]

Claims Crash and Spyro are terrible choices. Says he wants Banjo Kazooie (aka dead series with only 3 games in it)

[@deadgirllife2]

Nah there's only two only two

[@chrisdippertheirateshitter2653]

Crash and Spyro belong in PlayStation All Stars or a M.U.G.E.N fanfic not Smash.

[@literallyn01imp0rtant]

Chris Dipper the Irate Shitter So do Cloud and Snake, and yet here they are in Smash.

[@chrisdippertheirateshitter2653]

@@literallyn01imp0rtant Metal Gear and Final Fantasy as series were associated with Nintendo before the PS1 at least.

[@deadgirllife2]

@@literallyn01imp0rtant cloud has spent many years with Nintendo in final fantasy and snake is a Konami rep and had his 1st game on Nintendo

[@jerryseinfield9609]

How do you feel now as Arms is actually confirmed to be coming to smash 😂?

[@countertopconfessions9975]

This comment section is just teeming with falacies and flat non-points.

[@MrCastleburger]

Kind of like this video

[@countertopconfessions9975]

@@MrCastleburger The video is not to be taken seriously

[@Deoxys911]

This is amazing. I really hope the rest of your content is like this, because if so, you've got yourself a new dedicated viewer!

[@Cabanela]

4:08 Did you just call Mr. Game and watch "D-Tier trash"? Excuse me, but Mr. Game and watch is an S-Tier god, that's why I main him, you're probably just mad because of the 9 move, will def. make a short about this lmao

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

Game and watch is literally god himself, not to mention he is one of the only characters who can say the n-word

[@anthonysarmiento974]

Will def not because no one gives a shit

[@Cabanela]

everyone gives a shit

[@waffles245]

@@rotundmonibuv5103 Ken's last alt is black and sits on the same throne as G&W

[@thatdeafultyboi2034]

Hes bad deal with it

[@ceoofceos5219]

I wanted Shadow so badly and when he was de-confirmed i was disappointed. BUT THE FACT THAT THEY WAITED UNTIL THE LAST DIRECT ANS SHOWED HIM AS THE *FIRST* ASSIST- TROPHY PISSED ME OFF.

[@poodoodrilldick7757]

Oh wow a shadow fan being edgy and mad, I should take a picture for something so rare.

[@ceoofceos5219]

@@poodoodrilldick7757 Oh wow a moron online being a jerk, I should take a picture of something so rare.

[@poodoodrilldick7757]

@@ceoofceos5219 Ah yes, I'm the jerk. Not the guy complaining that one character was announced as something yet you treat it less than nothing.

[@ceoofceos5219]

​@@poodoodrilldick7757 I wouldn't be treating the fact that Shadow is a assist trophy as nothing if sakurai didn't show us that assist trophies could be fighters by adding in Little Mac, Isabelle and Dark samus.

[@INFERNO95]

ESRIC1O1 Sega don't even care about shadow so why should Nintendo care about him?

[@greyrifterrellik5837]

The justification I keep hearing for Waluigi is that he’d be a unique sort of representative; the mario franchise is so unbelievably *massive* that the spinoffs have their own franchises, and whenever I hear mention of Waluigi, it’s always as him being a representative of the mario sports titles (fitting, given he debuted in one)

[@bubby-fi9mc]

As a Bandana Dee fan, while feeling punched in the gut, I am still incredibly grateful for the amazing game that Sakurai has made so far. For character movesets, I will appreciate ANY and EVERY character that is unique and fun to play. I believe that every character can have a moveset made for them that can be completely awesome. We may have COMPLETELY different choices for Smash characters, but that's okay.

[@thegreatjman1999]

You know the start of this video was actually pretty good. Getting on people who were complaining about not getting a character despite all the crazy shit this game did and analyzing the reasons a character can get in Then it turned into "Your character sucks and you're stupid for wanting them"

[@salsaandbrwx1449]

Not necessarily no, you're stupid for being genuinely angry and upset (especially to the point of harassing Sakurai on Twitter) that your character didn't make it to super smash bros, especially when from an objective lens, they suck.

[@Lassikko]

Saying that a Rhythm Heaven character is a bad choice is like saying Banjo-Kazooie is a bad choice. Banjo-Kazooie might've sold well in the US, but Rhythm Heaven sold well in Japan, Smash's country of origin. Not to mention, Rhythm Heaven is a 1st party Nintendo franchise with multiple entries and a ton of potential for moves. Considering that characters like Lucas, who's game wasn't even released in the West, got in the game, I think a Rhythm Heaven character could've had a good chance. At this point though, I doubt they'll add anyone.

[@seanwilliams5417]

Banjo also sold well in Japan too

[@MikeyLuigi64]

My name is Michael West and I’m here to say I’d trade both Rosalina and Daisy for Waluigi ANY day

[@INFERNO95]

Michael West Only a idiot would try two mainline characters for a filler character.

[@INFERNO95]

Spaceman Alph Daisy is a sassy, outspoken, energetic tomboy. Wuluigi is nothing more then a poorman wario clone that makes stupid noises. And Japan don't like him anyway. People who say mario land is obscure never play the game so they just down play it out of ignorance.

[@MikeyLuigi64]

I’ve played Super Mario Land and Daisy has just as much personality as Waluigi and NONE of it is from that game. She doesn’t have as much moveset potential as Waluigi, who’s pretty much the goofy wildcard character in the series. Wario is grounded in his goofiness, it’s based around being gross, biting, farting, etc. Waluigi’s goofiness is more out there, from devious traps that end up backfiring sometimes to literally swimming through the air to whatever the hell else any developer can think up, he has TONS of potential to be a specially fun character! Calling him a “poor man’s Wario” is being incredibly ignorant. I guess it’s still fair to prefer Daisy for being a more grounded character, but I don’t agree with that

[@TrexGamer.]

TBH I’d replace Rosalina with any Mario character. Now I do not hate her. Mario Galaxy 2 was my favorite Mario game (until Odyssey happened which is one of my favorite games ever). But every time I play against her I get flashbacks to her days in Wii U

[@brenn1674]

To everyone saying how rosalina is more popular than waluigi: Nobody cared about Rosalina in Super Mario Galaxy. Nintendo basically shoved her down our throats by including her in all the mario kart games since, and also that doesn't apply to her popularity apparently. Waluigi represents all the spin-off mario games, and Rosalina can only represent like two games by being floaty and having a star. She isn't all that unique anymore because of Ice Climbers, and Waluigi would be because he could beat the crap out of people with a tennis racket and swim in the air. He also has his own following of fans and I'd argue is just as popular as Rosalina. Why am I supposed to care about a girl with less personality than Daisy? (Daisy does have a good amount of personality in Mario Strikers but OOP it's a spin-off game so I guess it doesn't count)

[@mitchbramblett916]

Bro that Waluigi rant hurt on a personal level lol

[@contentsailor5764]

Mitch Bramblett same

[@IcyDiamond]

Same

[@gabrielsegarra7425]

Good

[@goodmachines7743]

Good! It should!

[@IcyDiamond]

GoodMachines Because 2 people were mean to Sakurai

[@LunarBoo]

This is one of the best KZbin videos I've ever seen. Well done!