The Ultra Orthodox vs. The IDF: Israel's Other Religious War

[@YaraAhmedT]

They don't want to break what's in the Torah. All of Israel is built on breaking two of the main laws in Torah (Don't steal & Don't kill).

[@Alexanderrr3r]

Like you ever read Torah.

[@Jo__o]

@@Alexanderrr3r I have, and he's got a point

[@Jo__o]

Many of them are against Israel as a country.

[@Alexanderrr3r]

@@Jo__o Yeah? Than you know that there is no such law as "Don't kill"? And "a point" - you mean "whole Israel build on killing and stealing"?

[@Jo__o]

@@Alexanderrr3r to be fair, it doesn't say 'kill' but says 'murder' instead. "You shall not murder" (at least in the hebrew version of it). Now, "killing and stealing". Kind of. I suppose he is talking about the IDF and the occupation assuming that what so called "Israel" is Palestine and they should give it back to them.

[@llamapartyy]

9 years later and this is still as relevant as ever

[@Holyinductor]

Which means they don't change meaning they are dead no evolution

[@abhishekmhatre1554]

Actually thousands of Haredis are now joining the army. The Hamas attack was so terrible it compelled professional draft dodgers to enlist.

[@aaronbahin6952]

Was looking for this comment lol…

[@yassine8935]

The occupation has been going on for 75 years now ofc its still relevant

[@Ricky-vp5ee]

Why don't they just identify as girls like here in the west double standards

[@Renaissauntstudios]

"the state of Israel and Israelites are two different things"... that was some knowledge right there

[@Renaissauntstudios]

Blue Matrix you’ll have to do better than that 🥱

[@Renaissauntstudios]

Malcolm Jackson that’s funny cause what the hell does that have to do with me

[@Renaissauntstudios]

Malcolm Jackson a-not

[@nerome619]

Do I assume this is from the perspective of the Black Hebrew Israelite hate group?

[@Renaissauntstudios]

Neil Rosh who? Wtf

[@Beegpapijimbo]

Whether I agree with all aspects of their viewpoint or not, I will absolutely support the hard distinction between Israel and the Jewish people, and pushing back against the perpetuation of violence by the Israeli government

[@TheRonoTV2024]

You are lying to yourself and being self-delusional. Israel is an ethno-religious state.Separating state (Israel) and religion(Judaism) is a fools errand.

[@MrAllstar]

Good point, it’s interesting how diverse Jewish people are, just like any group of people I suppose, they are not homogeneous.

[@samfrost9957]

You foolish Every man that belongs to a community has the duty to defend that community, especially for Israel that is a Nation hated by the worst human beasts on this planet. The Ultra Orthodox don't work, don't produce, don't serve their country, they just reproduce like rabbits and constitute a huge burden for all the Community of Israelites. By 2050 this won't be sustainable anymore, Things must change

[@Duncangiks]

@@TheRonoTV2024yeah but that’s exactly what Israel does bro, they classify themselves as secular

[@namakubento9276]

​@@Duncangiks Most of them would become religious when they read something about God's promises But they would go secular when they read about the tasks given by God to them Take and will never give is their nature They re demanding God to fulfill His promises But at the same time, they refused to fulfill the tasks from Him

[@bigfellaoo7]

Will not respect the authority of the state but will accept welfare money from it.

[@BZB2000]

A lot hold that you are not allowed to accept welfare money.

[@dinogranolabars4795]

Exactly what I said in another comment just longer

[@doloresperez2554]

You mean money from the AMERICAN taxpayers!!?

[@robertmason6366]

@@doloresperez2554 beat me to it lol.

[@danielshwarts1737]

@@doloresperez2554 acctualy no, money from the israeli tax payer, the money the US gives goes to thw military

[@jiqbal1uk]

“If I don’t steal your house someone else will”

[@ZinouZinou-gw5rw]

"yakoub"

[@zains2396]

‘’God promised me a Ferrari, so I am going to steal it”....

[@arten1692]

@@zains2396 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@aniragil1922]

jacob the fat guy

[@larssrensen4353]

looks like that statement has become viral

[@musicneutral233]

If they loose their hassidic faith when going into their army maybe their faith was not that strong to begin with...

[@levspivak8759]

@Abdurrahman Habubilov false!

[@rickvandam3238]

Good point i like you

[@marypoopinz3343]

They weren’t strong enough to maintain their faith

[@jehuirasales3588]

@Dragostea Din Tei cherry picking verse clown eh?

[@RandomYoutubeUser69]

@@jehuirasales3588 yeah most of people do it though,they just google it,when they got the answer they desire it's like they know all of it which in fact they don't, just pretend to know.

[@justmadeit2]

No one should be forced to fight wars on behalf of their government

[@perrycomeau2627]

No problem there in Dad's department.

[@onlyhereforddebob8978]

I disagree there are times able bodied men have to make sacrifices for the greater good

[@CarolWoosey-ck2rg]

​@@onlyhereforddebob8978true-

[@theempress8947]

I disagree too...if they living there and benefiting from living there they should also be doing conscription

[@carolitoffana]

But the problem is that they don't work or serve in the military, the secular population kinda finances them all..if I were Israeli, I would be pissed

[@Amber-if5rh]

The boys studying looks like me pretending to study very hard so i dont have to help my mom

[@warfighter1988]

Hahah thats a good one

[@wernersgaminglounge5235]

The guys preaching look like Mr. Bean dancing No Offense

[@spongeeveryday]

Don’t care what religion or culture *pretend to study because dishes suck

[@william2154]

Your mom works very hard and tries to give everything she can for you, why would you purposely not want to help her

[@kab1r]

Just another one of things you'll regret when they pass away

[@501stlegionnaire]

This is what I like about VICENews, brining us news from regions in the world about topics you almost find nothing about on other networks, keep it up!

[@julie.1081]

Burdie Birdie I totally agree with you! There are times I swear that Vice is reading my mind. I'll get interested in a subject & Vice will have just posted another video about it.

[@gabrielferreira-pu6ep]

The one thing I don't like about vice news is that it's too biased towards the American government

[@CarlosPerdomo]

And they are heavy smokers.

[@elias_xp95]

This comment didn't age well

[@joshuaslawson9125]

Burdie Birdie This almost seems to me like the Conflict in Israel during the Days of Jesus of Nazareth in that you had several factions the one who were the Most Religiously involved being the Pharisees which seems to me that the Haredi are a direct comparison to them following Jewish Law dogmatically.

[@trialcritic7625]

No doubt about it, when the Haredim join the IDF, they see a different world. Especially when you do so when you are 18 years old, you begin questioning your former life.

[@aaronm8143]

I feel like that’s the main reason they don’t want them joining.

[@אדםגולוב]

You become a grown up.

[@aboveblock4338]

Yea but too bad they are still growing due to their massive birth rates

[@אדםגולוב]

@@aboveblock4338 7 children per family lol.

[@street8651]

@@אדםגולוב good god have mercy

[@soheibadel4205]

I’m in no way disrespecting the ultra orthodox community, but I wanted to pint out, that they are NEVER called backwards or radical by western media…….. I mean these are double standards

[@DRourk]

Yes they are. They've been called all sorts of things and persecuted by the western media. Primarily in recent years for not wanting to be vaccinated, especially in New York State.

[@golamkashef5255]

They don't advocate for the joining of government and religion, or forcing others to follow their way of life (see Saudi, Afghanistan, Iran). More importantly, as this video suggests, in Judaism the most orthodox stay away from violence, and in Islam, it's the opposite.

[@jasminegoodyear944]

@@golamkashef5255there is no violence in Islam, just people that call themselves "muslim" to make the religion look bad by using violence. If it was a "violent" religion then tell me why are there hundreds, if not, thousands of non muslims reverting everyday?and just because you mentioned 2 countries that are further away to islam than u can get does not mean u can say all muslims are radical or violent.

[@JsfosstdjsfJsfos-lf4tg]

​​​@@kzgntosbaga6255why aren't you addressing their points?

[@HAPPY_DAYS-wz8xy]

we use to call them heroes too mujahiden heros in the white house british Foreign Secretary from 1997 to 2001, has written that al-Qaeda and bin Laden were "a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies", and that "Al-Qaida, literally 'the database', was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians." so we created them with Saudi arabia Wahhabism used them then we tried to eliminate them for 20 years in Afghanistan

[@abdullabukhari9998]

"To kill is to worship satan do not kill another soul commit no murder" every abrahmic religion is based on this vary pillar of faith to commit no voilance yet we are the one who mostly who fight among ourselves because we let hate and greed fill our hearts and minds

[@samiislam3886]

We don't rotshild does

[@acidrunner]

True

[@drippingout6154]

After all we are just human

[@KrsnaLoveanimals74]

@@samiislam3886 New world order

[@Wolfhound_81]

So what do you do if you get attacked, let yourself be slaughtered like lambs? Especially in Israel, not understanding the need to have and support an army seems pretty bad to me.

[@lynn2141]

No matter what view you have on this, i think we can all agree that you can get at least 20 memes out of this video's thumbnail.

[@whimsy5623]

That's a solid noncontroversial take.

[@lauraellen122]

If you're interested in memes and thumbnails. Yeah. No. Why don't you just write "I'm an idiot"?

[@whimsy5623]

@@lauraellen122 Drop the holier-than-thou attitude. It's not funny, it doesn't add to conversation at all, and it just makes people feel bad.

[@lauraellen122]

@@whimsy5623 Subliterates and the uninformed. If avoiding stupidity whenever possible is holy, call me Pontiff.

[@aidosmaulsharif9570]

Laura Ellen jee, why dont you just leave us with meme business and go find other virtue signalers?

[@lightningbolt4419]

So they want the army to protect them but they don’t wanna protect their fellow citizens?

[@vixydu1963]

Most of them believe that they are the ones truly protecting the country by their prayers.. you can't be logical with someone who possesses and a completely different logic system.

[@lightningbolt4419]

Vixydu religious extremism is not logical

[@vixydu1963]

@@lightningbolt4419 extremists are never logical.. their emotions are invested in their beliefs.. in a wired way it's like 'the crazy ex girlfriend ' logic lol

[@lightningbolt4419]

Vixydu ikr

[@kmccarthy26]

The IDF doesn’t have the strongest track record when it comes human rights. I can respect if someone believes shooting women and children is against their religion

[@CarollemMen-cl8nz]

Tell Netanyahu to send his two sons to his war. He wants your sons to do battle but not his.

[@juanblacker9608]

PUES EL MISMO ESNTA ENTRANDO EN LA GUERRA, MUCHA GENTE POR ESTO SERA CRITICADO, PERO DESPUES HAYARAN LA LUZ , IMVESTIGA BIEN, INSTRUYETE, LEEE, DISCIERNE, ACASO EN LAS ESCRITURAS NO HUVO ALGUN LEVITA QUE PELEO BATALLAS, Y ESTOS JUDIOS ULTRAORTODOXOS NI SIQUIERA SON DE LA TRIBU DE LEVI, ENTIENDE, NETANYAHU NO HACE ESTO PORQUE LE DA LA GANA, HABRA UN DERRAMAMIENTO DE SANGRE NI NUESTRO ELOHIM LO DESEE, PERO SERA QUIZAS PROXIMO Y AFECTARA A MUCHOS ISRAELIES, Y ESTARAN EN MEDIO DE ELO, TARDE O TEMPRANO VAN A TENER QUE LUCHAR, SE TUVO QUE DECIR Y SE DIJO...

[@dexsterkevin80]

Who commanded Operation Entebbe?

[@XELASK82]

His son his some homo in miami

[@backcraft_yt2852]

@@dexsterkevin80 His brother

[@Leslie-1996]

Seriously. Instead, he exiled one of his sons to Miami for being a complete idiot on social media.

[@Onur_G]

So many Ben Shapiro's...

[@Feroxing12]

lol

[@yairsolomon578]

the exact opposite

[@animesnow6649]

I know right. I almost got triggered.

[@WrestlingNZHazardis]

So many Ari Shafir's

[@medved4030]

Pause it @ 1:07 :)

[@ashrafsaiful]

The irony of killing while praying, no religion is exempt

[@megibit]

"Allah hue akbar"...

[@jylobo1112]

@@megibit [5:32] Whosoever kills a human being without (any reason like) man slaughter, or corruption on earth, it is as though he had killed all mankind

[@manurr10]

@@jylobo1112 ya I know. Let me correct it. "whosoever killed a muslim...."

[@jylobo1112]

@@manurr10 not true

[@jylobo1112]

@@manurr10 give me a single translation that says that

[@shanmukhag2349]

This is to be expected when you make a country based on religion, whatever the religion is.

[@ladymsthing6056]

shannu j yep, chaos and extremism like Iran and Saudi Arabia.

[@blackflagsofpakistantheeas9109]

@@ladymsthing6056 like India and Israel

[@shanmukhag2349]

@@julesbrags1661 internal fighting is sometimes more dangerous than external threats.

[@naufalxiips4374]

shannu j Yep

[@elaine1034]

+shannu j Wrong! "Thou shalt not kill". Those who do kill and covet are not worshiping the real God.

[@twanettahoosen496]

These are the videos we need to share this is heartbreaking the media will never show this. Please share everyone.

[@juanblacker9608]

Y PORQUE TAMBIEN NO COMPARTISTES LOS VIDEOS DE LAS MASACRES A LOS BEBES DE HAMAS Y MUSULMANES HACIA SOLDADAS ISRAELIES, YA QUE POCOS VALIENTES LO HICIERON Y KZbin LOS SENSURO, PERO CLARO, COMO UN GRUPO REBELDE ULTRAORTODOXO NO QUIERE IR A LA GUERRA PARA AYUDAR A SUS SOLDADOS SI TE PONES MAL Y TRISTE, HIPOCRITA, MEJOR INVESTIGA BIEN EN VEZ DE JUZGAR, YA PARECES COMO ESA GENTE DE IZQUIERDA QUE SOLO BUSCA SIN RAZON PARA PONER EN EL ESCENARIO MALIGNO AL ESTADO DE ISRAEL Y AL ESTADO NORTEAMERICANO.

[@de-angelocottrell8914]

I have a feeling they wouldn't like family guy

[@rqneo5361]

South Park even less

[@confirmhandle]

Everyone likes family guy ;)

[@kyriljordanov2086]

They would love it but pretend not to.

[@StarWarssMania]

lol especially the bird joke

[@night2957]

They don't even like Arthur let alone family guy or the Simpsons

[@rasul407]

Every Muslim should watch this and distinguish the difference between IDF and Orthodox Jews. As a Muslim I lived in a Hasidic community and they were all nice to me. Shalom!

[@Hasnanembong]

Muslims built it from the start. If you don't know what muslims mean, it means the people who submit to god, Allah the Al mighty. Those who built the masjid were the people who followed the teachings of the prophets who in turn received the teachings from Allah. They are muslims, whether they're from Isaac or Ishmael or any of their descendants. As long as they followed god's order they're muslims alright!

[@xtremeownage2]

the j, why do Jews have this tendency to claim what is Muslim as theirs. The Dome of the Rock is not yours. You are jealous so you claim our site. I read somewhere that the Temple was lost and that even an Ottoman Sultan sent an expedition to look for it. However, you guys are just jealous of Muslims. Muslims are also tougher, stronger and smarter than you. You are living off the legacy of stolen wealth of the Rothschild.

[@flyingpakora8799]

isreal is a joke founded by UN and funded by U.S

[@haamedsayedi9545]

the j it is tho

[@ForeverRepublic]

Orthodox is not the same as ultra-Orthodox.

[@LynsieAshsu]

Fearing that joining the army would take them away from their religion is like screaming my belief is weak and it wavers at every turn. Take me from the restrictive environment and I will stop what I’m suppose to do. *response to how killing is against their religious principles. Pretty sure it’s written in Judaism scripture somewhere that capital punishment is condoned. Yeah because Judaism has ALWAYS been a peaceful religion. No violence whatsoever. But then again religion sees no wrong in bending its own rules whenever it’s convenient. Personally, I think war and killing is abhorrent. Violence is horrible. But do not act all holier than thou when we’re all sinners.

[@AlienBusDriver1]

You just summed up haredi culture, they think in this way when it comes to everything even books.

[@givolimyerukim]

u probably never served in the army and it's okay, but they fear not because their belief is weak, but because the army can't allow them to practice all the judaism stuff they want to, yes they serve with other Haredim but they don't practice everything they would before the army, so no, they aren't affraid that their sons will stop beliving, they are afraid the army will force them to not practice judaism. im the oposite of a Haredi btw, it just makes sense.. but then also it's mandatory and they are a part of the country so they must go! I understand their struggles, and the fact that the army changes a lot of them to the "worse"(religion wise) - but also it's a country and they get all the subsidies and rights that a normal 'army goer' recives. bullshit times, hope that'll change one day

[@witchapparatus]

Makes sense. When your religion is based around works, anything that isn't tied into it, detracts from your ability to properly practice. It throws into high relief how blessed we are by the Lord's grace. If only more people would accept his gift.

[@ahmadsyairazi6856]

They tired of war, just want to live in peace.

[@ihatethisusernameupdate]

​@@witchapparatus What gift? The gift of believing in some creature in the sky that is called God? Yeah, no, I think most sane people would like to pass on that.

[@purdysanchez]

It would be informative to your audience if you outlined a list of reasons as to why joining the IDF is contrary to the religious observances of the Haredim. You mention beards, studying, and their fears of people leaving the sect, but surely their are more substantial reasons.

[@_BlackSummer]

nope. they do or have done everything else . lmaoo

[@sujoudza14]

I feel like they were almost scared to admit why they didn’t want to join 👀 they know what’s really going on in the IDF

[@ForestWitchDweller]

​@@sujoudza14^^^

[@ForestWitchDweller]

​@@sujoudza14they know its against God

[@akeleven]

​@@ForestWitchDwellerbut they live in the state and benefit from it.

[@Grk149]

-Hey we are being attacked! All men to the front! -Sorry it’s Saturday, let’s talk again after my prayer tomorrow morning.

[@Ahron_]

Realistically if lives are on the line anything is permitted

[@ignacioaguirrenoguez6218]

You never heard about the six day war?

[@inesmimi9700]

They are against the war

[@alqadiri92]

Lol best comment

[@alqadiri92]

@@ignacioaguirrenoguez6218 you never heard of 2006

[@josephsaff]

Wow, that was actually a surprisingly well made documentary that explained the issues quite accurately.

[@jesusisgodfriendandlove469]

Look up the Lady of Guadalupe it's been proven by scientists to be a miracle

[@jamieevans3666]

yea vice made something good for for once compared to their other recent crap

[@Ishi79]

1492, European colonialism: We discovered America. 1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land. European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairy tale history and fake archeology. The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairy tales, are European colonialism.

[@TheosLogos]

10 truths and a lie is the best way to misguide

[@caileanparis9998]

@@TheosLogoswhat’s the one lie?

[@aoitrekt1109]

Why can't they just do military volunteer work as medical assistance and stuff?

[@jtim83]

Can become cooks, mechanics, literally all of the other jobs in the military

[@aoitrekt1109]

@@jtim83 in my country, you can enlist into the military in a way, that you are sure, never to shoot an enemy (even though you still train it I think) Why can't they do it in such a way...

[@Netalula0707]

@efopo They can join Sherut Leumi and they can choose to only do a year.

[@אדםגולוב]

Because they don't want to and don't need to.

[@yanfeeer]

I think that they must do the military service because Israel is surrounded by enemies

[@vimfuego8827]

Keep exposing the Zionists

[@JesusChrist-ky9lw]

Zionism = Nazism

[@Jacob-ry2yt]

How is this “exposing” Zionists?

[@Iwipemyasswithpalestianflag]

How is this exposing anyone? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@vimfuego8827]

@@Iwipemyasswithpalestianflag If you can read, see above post.

[@uchiha6284]

​@@vimfuego8827 This is about ultra orthodox. Do you have a brain?

[@threedragonstalk2123]

"The world is a train that's riding down, we're on that train too but we're in the last car" Fricking love that quote, we're all going down and just trying to be last in line; sums up the whole world really

[@timkratz742]

Lol, tell that to people 200 years ago. And guess how things got better. Science, not religion.

[@redme8473]

Ameen. Muslims, Christian's, Jewish etc.. it's almost game over for all of us

[@MDLMustang]

@@redme8473 you guys are just the other sad part left vs. Right in reality wars and environmental problems have gone on for millions of years and for most of it without human beings and any form of Intelligent life and survived amazing no just the worlds power and will still be around long after us wake up everything has a beginning and and end right that should.tell u something if not u deserve what u get

[@on-line10]

@@MDLMustang "U deserve what u get", you religious idiots have waged war for more than 2000 years. It's 2019, religious extremists should have been gone for long

[@buzifalus]

Most of them are the first to show in wholesale discounts LOL

[@1951kvk]

Why on earth would the Haredi feel it's fine NOT to work for a living. No where in the Old Testament does it say that studying Torah is more valuable than taking financial responsibility for your family.

[@sb7644]

+Chat is a waste of time you are an idiot.... just read it again and maybe you will undestand what he is talking about....

[@GulrozKhan1996]

+Mary Therese McCool They don't want to work for a country ruled by Satan, whenthe jews went into Kanan, they didn't go to be ruled by Kanan's Satanic law, they went in fighting against them so the country may be ruled by God's law; and Israel is not ruled by the law of the Torah, it is ruled by Satan's law, permitting what God has forbidden in the Torah.

[@JBGodzilla]

+Gulroz Khan Israel is a democratic secular state. It is the homeland of the Jewish people, but also the country of all of its non-Jewish citizens as well. If Satan's law means a combination of British common law, and Ottoman land laws then that is what it is. It also abides by the stipuations of the League of Nation's Mandate of 1922.

[@JBGodzilla]

+Gulroz Khan If Israel were really ruled by the Laws of Moses, then Arabs wouldn't be living there at all.What makes Arabs think that ISrael belongs to them?

[@GulrozKhan1996]

JBGodzilla Rather Moses welcomed all who abided by God's law, according to the Bible his wife was an Arab and he welcomed Ethiopians and even the Pharoah himself to hasten to God's way. And a true Jew doesn't care about a man made mandate made in 1922.. And yes that is Satan's law. Israel does not belong to Jews or Arabs, in fact the Arabs in Israel are doing wrong if they are only there because of the land. Because according to Islam it doesn't matter which land you are in, even the Prophet Muhammad left the Holy area of Mecca because it was ruled by evildoers, Allah commands muslims to not live in the dwellings of the evil doers even if the Kabah should be there.

[@ace-pv4hy]

Best job there,eye doctor, glasses selling 😁

[@lowandodor1150]

Haha, that's what i thought as well....or a neck surgeon ˘J˘

[@musaddiqali1]

Yeah, even I have noticed that as I have been watching related videos more and more due to recent events. May be vision issues are endemic in their part of the world.

[@ace-pv4hy]

@@musaddiqali1 maybe fashion statement?? 😉😁

[@alialjabr7251]

Hats salesman. Small ones.

[@nicholaswayne8944]

Lmao

[@Jbrid78]

All I see in this video are my tax dollars be pissed away

[@inessi1623]

😂😂😂

[@Hippo_Heli]

It's funny how these people are the ones that required the most amount of protection from the surrounding countries.

[@evianmarquez9421]

These people dont need protection from anyone..because no one has a problem with them. People have a problem with ZIONISM AND ZIONISTS....ONLY

[@tm0338]

SPKY 13 happens when your population wants to be left alone and the Nazi’s exterminates millions. You’d want that too but then again you don’t do anything

[@tariksaadeddine9339]

TM03 the only Nazi here are these Israelis taking other people lands

[@That_dude_in]

@@edmundreileigh9237 because they knew they will lose at the end, this is why they keep moving with their attack. More like now or never. Lol

[@-Siculus-Hort-]

How much money does the United States give it Israel? And why?

[@ridovercascade4551]

As Muslim I really love the Ultra-Orthodox community giving so much love and effort in being thankfull to God (The Highest). May Allah accept your prayers and guide me and you to the straight path. Ameen. Shalom alaikum.

[@saihinadir]

Same here mate. They are being mocked and cast away for refusing to abandon the divine teachings. Secularism is a spreading cancer :( I thought Israel was a succesful theocracy but no, they have libtards as well.

[@user-xv4he4mt4x]

I was searching for Taiwanese made fighter jets named IDF. Then I found this video. Quite interesting. Thanks VICE

[@fightermma]

Lol their jets are literally called KFIR i.e Kuffar (disbeliever).

[@שהרבכהן]

The IDF Fighter jet of Taiwan has an Israeli ELTA radar 👌🏻

[@seansoblixe9711]

WE ARE WATCHING

[@urittiru3601]

IDF=Israel defend force

[@gusteriljiljanibosanski4176]

@@fightermma Well done!

[@iamdzaman]

This is not Zionism vs Islam It is Zionism vs Humanity

[@denizkirbiyik9221]

Well said

[@alexadellastella5247]

It is Jihad versus democracy. What do you say about the 22 islamic countries i middle east where there is no freedom and they are conquering the world through Hamas and others... why do you think people from Iran who are oppressed support Israel???

[@alpddar2518]

​@@alexadellastella5247 Cut the bs "Ohh, Jihadis conquering the world boo" propaganda and get real. You cant get unguilty by blaming others and/or relying on Islamophobia. This conflict/genocide is not about Islam or Judaism, it's about ethnic Jewish violence and their claims of their ancestral lands. Purely a nationalistic conflict based on limitless greed of Zionists.

[@miasma5733]

Nope. Humanity begins where islam ends. You can see easily within this recent conflict.

[@Alfakta23]

​@@miasma5733 Shut up Islamophobe

[@karliebellatrixyoung6359]

Their objections would seem a lot more justified if they were actually pacifists, from what I understand, they are overwhelmingly supporting conservatives and expansionist policies that bring the country into more direct conflict with their neighbors.

[@OrlyYahalom]

They don't care about the Palestinians but they mainly hate the State of Israel because they see it as blasphemous. As their population is growing rapidly, many of them are moving to Haredi settlements in the West Bank, but they don't care about the political significance of the region, it's simply because housing there is cheap.

[@aspektx]

I've seen accounts of the kind violence perpetrated against other Israelis by Haredi. For simply wearing a pair of pants a woman was stoned and then beaten with a board that had nails in it. It of course hospitalized her. So I don't buy the pacifist bullshit.

[@cxarhomell5867]

As long as Israel is here, our neighbors will wish death on us. So, let it be. Yisra'el shall prevail.

[@cxarhomell5867]

@@aviwad No, they are not. Most of them are nice, do not generalize.

[@cxarhomell5867]

@@aspektx Good riddance, then.

[@retrorapture4079]

Whether or not you believe that the draft is justifiable, one thing that, to me at least, is certain, is that it is unjustifiable for any group of people to be granted, or denied, any burden, or privilege, that others in the same country are not subject to. It is inherently unfair, and any government should seek to treat its citizens with the highest degree of fairness possible.

[@tipsysmichigander6483]

Racism... are you slow?

[@kpopfan674]

Yes yet they are massive hypocrites - they claim to have strong religious values, but then engage in violence, and they have the nerve to tell non-orthodox people how to dress in "their" neighbourhood.

[@odanedmcdonald]

Amish people in the US are exempt from being required to have Social Security Numbers. Every US citizen accepts that. Even foreigners find it to be very justifiable. Someone who just learns who the Amish are would reasonably ask if they were exempt from it. A country isn't a homogeny. It has never been the case in all history where all cultures in a region must wholly embrace all the norms of the dominant country until now. The Ottoman Empire exempted other beliefs from certain practices. The Mongol. The Roman. But now all cultures in a region must behave how the dominant culture tells them to the behave? Remember that even now it's normal for Native Indians in North America, Amazonian peoples in South, Mountain cultures in Europe and Asia, Original tribes in Africa and more all over the world are enthusiastically given exemptions to all sorts of rules by their governments whether they were there a long time or a short time. So I'm not even saying that's never been required until now by modern governments. I'm saying homogeneity has never been required until now by you.

[@retrorapture4079]

@@odanedmcdonald If a government is allowing the freedom of all its citizens and serving the people, instead of oppressing them, as is their duty, then there should be no need to give anyone special treatment. If they're failing any group, be it the majority or the minority, it's their job to fix it for EVERYONE, so that EVERYONE can enjoy the freedoms and protections that EVERY tax-payer ought to be entitled to. Also, I am against any sort of special treatment of any group, under a single government, as if we're all paying the same taxes, we should all be enjoying the same rights, protections, and freedoms. The onus is in the government to make those freedoms flexible enough that any reasonable person should have no issue obeying the law, regardless of creed, race or culture.

[@kpopfan674]

@@odanedmcdonald Nonsense. Lots of Americans are annoyed at the Amish not having social security numbers. Foreigners don't find it justifiable either. And the Amish have major child abuse scandals.

[@christinegruber3533]

Reserve a piece of land for them, where they can live their orthodox religious lives, set up businesses to feed themselves and build their infrastructure, and ignore them. No financial support, no military protection, nothing. Let them figure out their lives all by themselves .

[@yankedhonor4281]

They couldnt do that for the palastinians

[@darthdj31]

That's kind of what many settlements are about, Israel could risk a civil war trying to move some out.

[@chenaviv1470]

I mean harder said then done but as an Israeli I’m in

[@chenaviv1470]

@@yankedhonor4281 the problem with the Israeli- Palestinian conflict is that there’s in every side more sides. What I mean is that there’s some Israelis who would rather to just accept the Palestinians as citizens and some that would rather, as you said, to have two different countries (it also goes the other way around)... it’s so much more complicated then just giving land at this point...

[@corniel657]

@@chenaviv1470 interesting, bro I would like to ask you about that matter, would you prefer to just have palestinian to be israel citizen or would you rather be separated, Pardon my English btw

[@MUDCATS252]

Lmao. No matter the place, humans will ALWAYS find a way to disagree. Race, ethnicity, religion, socio-economic status, gender, skin color.....we as humans must find away to disagree

[@michaelhynes4554]

I disagree with that 🤔

[@st.altair4936]

@@michaelhynes4554 I disagree with YOU 🤔

[@LogicaIn]

I agree with you, and think that fact is deviously beatiful.

[@xtscarfacem8255]

I wish aliens would just attack already... that would probably is the only thing that will bring us together as a species..... to fight another species

[@leandrokataoka2435]

This brought me back to that Rick and Morty episode where Unity, a hive mind, dominated a species on the brink of civil war due to how they nipples looked...

[@lelelel8614]

0:41 snoop dog's Israeli cousin

[@everAU2]

Ludwin V try it shy loser beta male

[@loke5551]

Habibi i "beta male" says the muslim whose prophet was a pedophile lol

[@karimk3972]

Leonard Quah 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@Asad-2166]

napalm Your mum!

[@tuts351]

Leonard Quah thank you 😂😂😂😂

[@Slimbenzene139]

3:14 Why did he skip like that? 🤣🤣

[@bradenanderson6989]

James Mercado ikr? Such a spastic

[@johanrod6239]

Rabbit

[@richardroberts3322]

I would knock him out if he touched my camera like that

[@iTzShakenJoE]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@treepeenbawlz1934]

Lunafreya McFantasy you’ve been brainwashed by their movies

[@ypgmapper3195]

they all look like Minecraft villagers lol

[@TheTrashPoliticDoctrine]

Careful now. The triggered ones are coming

[@thesalandarian3314]

EXPLOSIVE MAPPER that’s so offensive and racist

[@ypgmapper3195]

@@thesalandarian3314 how lol ?

[@ypgmapper3195]

@@TheTrashPoliticDoctrine yep i got one right now

[@TheTrashPoliticDoctrine]

@@ypgmapper3195 rip

[@dougm2174]

I would love to see an update to this report, what are the numbers in that orthodox military unit now.

[@thomascameron6404]

Best information I could find is that 68% of Haredi now support the IDF and since the war has ramped up, over 2000 have enlisted. I’d like to see the numbers from when this documentary was put out but that’s harder to come across.

[@TheBestDealsIl]

It actually went down

[@LA-cm9uo]

The update now is that the supreme court ruled that all ultra Orthodox men just join the army including yeshiva students

[@Wufffles]

I wonder how many of them hate the off now?

[@vitakyo982]

I have an idea for free energy : a system that would collect electricity from these bouncing people .

[@kenzeier2943]

VITA kyo That’s Very disrespectful of you to make such a comment

[@ditmarmuller5231]

@@kenzeier2943 No, no, he is right, those swinging clowns should contribute theirs to society instead of just sucking money from the state

[@vitakyo982]

@@kenzeier2943 Oysters have more sense of humor ... & any critic is antisemitism .

[@rooseveltbrentwood9654]

Ken Zeier how so?

[@tylermcquien8393]

The actually tried something like that with homeless people tying Wi-Fi servers to their back

[@fmmf3724]

Thanks for making such a valuable video full of essential information to understand better the Israeli communities.

[@najmunnahar8450]

Agreed. Thank you

[@orsonkaart1853]

Extreme , radical religion of any kind is a problem for others!

[@williamhenley8593]

The biggest cause of suicide bombings are secular Marxists. Extremism of any kind is bad

[@orsonkaart1853]

john maziasz , you regard Amish as radical and extreme ?

[@stevenbrown9883]

Exactly

[@stevenbrown9883]

@@orsonkaart1853 right? Amish are out there trying to force people to convert by beheading people everyday lol. That dude has no idea

[@Lakeslover1]

Orson Kaart So far we have all slept peacefully in our beds ! They haven’t imposed their values on anyone else or killed any of us!

[@costcontrolaccounting4613]

No service, no vote and absolutely no subsidies of any kind, ever.

[@Blade-Thing]

Double standard. King David was a warrior for goodness sakes! Joining the Army does not violate the commandments of God.

[@yonibaddiel]

True, and if there wasn't an army they would make one themselves! only that this army is complete circular and buy them going to the army they will turn just like them!

[@thetopcat8946]

Amen

[@FalloutZone]

Yep

[@GeometryOverload]

Yeah it does... When you kill innocent Palestinians

[@yusuufibrahim530]

Idf kill kids and women which is not allowed in Judaism to kill innocent people

[@ertwro]

Hey, look. Extremists being extreme. So unexpected.

[@myfirstnamemylastname3343]

The only terrorist extremist is the israeli gov

[@doloresperez2554]

@@myfirstnamemylastname3343 along with USA Republican government

[@JohanKylander]

@@doloresperez2554 you mean the Global Aristocracy

[@doloresperez2554]

@@JohanKylander Sure do

[@pietrotettamanti7239]

@@JohanKylander I thought conspiracy theorist nutjobs were only right wing

[@estatesales9818]

6:12 I want a pair of binoculars like that for my next hunting trip. Now that's a pair of bino's!

[@PridelessChickz]

You'd scare off all the game😂❤

[@andrewchesler2029]

you can see on the inside of game

[@elavke5441]

@@andrewchesler2029 I doubt that. They're not ex ray vision

[@andrewchesler2029]

@@elavke5441 even better. With these binoculars you can see *forever* !

[@elavke5441]

@@andrewchesler2029 I would love to have those. We like to go to the country and watch deer play

[@alaakela]

While secular birthrates plummet, ultra religious birthrates are exponential. Guess whose culture will dominate in a few generation.

[@SM-xr9rs]

Did you see how the drone crashes down the hill 😂 15:00

[@dmc7890]

Thats some next level shit

[@brunsmip]

Noob pilot crashing a perfectly reasonable quality drone

[@alec4672]

They set up the launcher wrong the line is supposed to be level

[@abashedsanctimony154]

Behold their enemy is defeated 0:50

[@ridovercascade4551]

They have money and America has drones enough. Just sell more coca cola bfjdhehs

[@HlkBrilliantshps]

Only VICE can bring such news. I never knew such thing existed

[@Overxpossed]

look for naturei karta.

[@matthewstone1362]

This is old. Vice are no longer what they were sadly.

[@Ishi79]

European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairy tale history and fake archeology. 1492, European colonialism: We discovered America. 1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land. The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairy tales, are European colonialism.

[@eclecticplays]

Because you dont do research brah

[@unknownme7177]

Yeah

[@buddybuddy1988]

" تحسبهم جميعا وقلوبهم شتى " صدق الله العظيم

[@ALPHA-wh3ej]

الله يفرق بينهم، نحن كمسلمين لازم ندعم شتاتهم حتى نمحيهم مرة وحدة

[@Kc-qe5dv]

@@ALPHA-wh3ej What an evil thing to say from a muslim who claims to have ‘a pure heart’. You’re disgusting🤮, mind your business and addresses the hate within Arabs, who also separate themselves from other Semitic groups/tribes.

[@arshanansari5878]

Iam a muslim and iam shocked after watching this i always think that we muslims are most conservative but i was wrong

[@d.bcooper2271]

No. Hope it will continue..... we Muslims support the Orthodox Jewish against our common enemy, the Zionists.

[@st.altair4936]

It's religions in general that are the problem. Islam is just big enough now that the cracks are easy to see

[@plinyelder8156]

Muslims are

[@allah-is-a-slavemaster]

You are.

[@allah-is-a-slavemaster]

@YassmineAm You do.

[@YAIforever]

“State of Israel and Israelites are two different things” well said 👏🏽

[@YAIforever]

I’m Moroccan👍🏽😆

[@xXXMFAXXx]

Because one is expecting the second return of a being that died while the other await the mighty army of the holy one. Monotheism will come to light amigo. Be vulnerable and know you are vulnerable while one takes shape through the dark shadow of the valley of death. Light within is what carries a mu'min. Satan has compared himself to God now he is paying the price. He is also very low on time. Scriptures are the earth's "life" script and well as creation we are living and breathing the scriptures wether in holy or in harm state. May Allah bring ease and unification for the mu'min soul.

[@windsurfer8824]

@@xXXMFAXXx Islam believes Jesus is coming back... you don't know your religion

[@paull2166]

"Israel" (as it's called) is occupied Palestine 🇺🇸❤🇯🇴 Changed; 🇵🇸 ❤ 🇺🇸

[@eladdaniel8734]

@@paull2166 bruh thats the jordanian flag يا حمر

[@amitbarak9475]

There is a mistake in the video! The Heredy population was much more than a few hundreds in the beginning of Israel. However only a few hundreds were grunted the privilege to not join the army. Many years later this expended to all of the ultra orthodox in Israel because of their parliament representatives actions. (It is still to be mentioned that the high growing rate of their population was and still is a very big factor in this topic.)

[@chanitalevitz4945]

There is also the issue that the yeshiva men are doing the most important defense of the country. When there is a war going on the men learn in shifts around the clock, the women say psalms ( saying psalms is a whole 'nother discussion). It was noted that the first ever terrorist attack in Bnei Brak happened less than a month after Rav Chaim was nifter ( died). His non stop learning protected the city all by himself evidently. Look him up. Oh by the way when we talk among ourselves we learn holy subjects and study secular subjects.p

[@amitbarak9475]

@@chanitalevitz4945 how do you learn secular subjects while taking among yourselfs? (I mean usually people use text books and write notes or something like that)

[@chanitalevitz4945]

@@amitbarak9475 we study secular subjects like everyone else

[@rosem5041]

@@chanitalevitz4945 Do you read the Torah with understanding? Elohim clearly states in the Torah “Do not covet the house, land and livestock of your neighbour. Do not break the covenant or I will visit you with double the punishment and make an example of you to others. I scattered you throughout the world because of your wrongdoing”. This clear and concise command has been broken. You are going against Elohim.

[@jyum01]

@@rosem5041 as a atheist I have not a single clue what that means. And I have a question if I may. Why are we arguing religious points on a secular issue? If the Israeli people think you don't contribute stop shooting diatribe and religious dogma surely a secular argument is appropriate? For example pointing out the people's actual contributions being equal or better than the Israelis. If it happens it's not equal or better. Some changes would need to occur. Surely that's just logical?

[@nateriver7848]

If taking a person out of his/her circle of faith leads to deterioration of belief, then maybe it's the faith that's brittle. It's the same across all religion. Take a person outside of the religious bubble, let them know other perspectives and suddenly they don't believe in the same thing anymore.

[@ozking842]

Sadly that is not true for most Muslims..

[@ullscarf]

The faith being 'brittle' doesn't mean it's wrong, and the convenience of materialism/consumerism doesn't make it right - but it's highly seductive.

[@bostonshanghai377]

@@ozking842 Yeah, cause you faced all and by the way what that guy said in his comment is just his opinion and a theory it is not the reality at least not the whole reality.

[@zub41r75]

OZ KING Yes because our faith is strong and not brittle therefore we are not brainwashed by Athiests to believe we are all just animals and should be controlled because our lives are worthless. You are a coward bendover to your masters on this planet who are pieces of shit. I bend only to God. Coward

[@awfan221]

Generally not believing the same thing is not an issue, unless they pervert their faith for self benefit like zionists or Islamic extremists

[@AlxzAlec]

imagine being in the army of israel, fighting because you believe you are entitled to israel but then remember you don't even believe in judaism and god

[@buckbenelli8]

Imagine no religion, it’s easy if you try.

[@Druuna55]

they depend on state funds? but they are able bodied...what do they do all day? rock back and forth? What even is this? So bizarre :/

[@edwardrh8800]

it's religion...and yes religion is bizarre :p besides Chrisitianity, I'm an atheist (Which means I don't believe in any type of gods) but Christianity is the religion that I can kind of understand..+ it's the least bizarre of them all

[@aporlarepublica]

EdwardRH Christianity is the least bizarre religion for you because you are more culturally close to it than to others, if you were born in a Islamic culture you would think differently. Religious freedom includes respecting all religions, as well as people not having one; religion must not interfere with politics or civil rights. No religion must have a special treatment and privileges because it vulnerates religious freedom. And I say this being an atheist coming from a heavily Christian country...

[@horkosofdonso7624]

AR G “We gotta separate church and state, man” Freemasonry is aruably a religion. They have baptisms, burials and everything. Most politicians worship the angel of light. There will always be a monarch (covert or overt). There will always be a religion (covert or overt).

[@hellooutthere8956]

Druuna55 if the state of Israel claims it's right of existence Torah based then they are secular atheist then these ppl are right. They are as they say not israelis but Israelites

[@devinngeorge]

Horkos of Dõnsö arguably its not

[@RafProductions3]

Oh please they’re not that bad. It’s just a bunch of McLovins.

[@fuckman297]

I thought more Ricky Berwick look but aight

[@narahs22]

this comment killed me

[@TURBOBLU-fx6mn]

Why are they all so ugly ?

[@tanvvir8996]

@@kaffeetasse9455 that’s kinda antisemitic but okay

[@groot6830]

These people would be considered lost by their community. Any violence is strictly prohibited. Killing is the worst crime.

[@mariomaldonado6061]

But stealing money and land is okay...? Lmaoo

[@williamcunninghammorrison3894]

@@mariomaldonado6061 yeap

[@cxarhomell5867]

They are not killing anyone. Murder is the worst crime.

[@lllllllllll11111lllllllll]

@@cxarhomell5867 but what if a neighbor plans to pillage your family, take what’s yours, and stay for good? What if they’re also no so merciful? Not willing to listen?

[@thegoodpimps]

@@lllllllllll11111lllllllll The Pacifist is tested with War, the Warrior is tested with Peace.

[@Me-vq7sy]

"20% of young men lose their religious identity while in the army" 😢

[@lillotusplays]

yeah cuz they r finally away from their family and have time to think freely rather than be brainwashed at home. what is the issue? cant be secular even if u want to now?

[@raulsolana499]

Maybe it’s because they face reality.

[@kindafatkindastrong5683]

Haredi: NOOO YOU CAN'T BRAINWASH OUR BOYS THATS OUR JOB!

[@kp5602]

Youre living up to the first half of your name

[@kindafatkindastrong5683]

@@kp5602 did i hit a nerve? lmao

[@capncake8837]

69th like.

[@Hindustani605]

Here

[@Hindustani605]

It possible like to history

[@randysimmons9838]

No military service...no welfare

[@damianosconosciuto3974]

No military Palestine Hamas terrorist invade us

[@shrithanosmaharaj8679]

@@damianosconosciuto3974 we know

[@Yrlova]

@@damianosconosciuto3974 pff israel propaganda

[@AntonioBrandao]

Israel's Other religious war? So, what's the "Other" religious war? The conflict with Palestine is not even a war and certainly not religious, only territorial.

[@Talya188]

+Antonio Brandao Territorial battle which is based on stupid religious grounds.

[@TheRealDesiCNEC]

yea

[@adventureguy4119]

+Vital Mark The question is, does look at this and be like. What the heck are you guys doing!?

[@veronikamars445]

+Antonio Brandao it's a land dispute based on a thousand-year book. which then evolved into an occupation and gradual genocide of the palestinians

[@TheRealDesiCNEC]

Veronika Mars No if Muslims argue it's their land, so can the Jews. Plus there was no state called Palestine which was ruled by Palestinians. The Ottoman Turks controlled before the British colonization of the "Mandate of Transjordan and Palestine." There is no genocide but definitely harsher laws and imbalance in those areas where Palestinians aren't fit to self govern but deserve equal rights and admittance to Israeli govt. and citizenship.

[@Justliftityo]

Ahh yes, back when Vice made great content.

[@thebomb78]

I'm a proud Irishman and a Catholic but I separate church from state. Saying that, historically and politically, I can't get away from or deny my pride in my heritage 🇮🇪

[@user-go3jv8rw7i]

DarthAlcoholic I’m an Irish Republican who believes in a 32 county socialist republic and a free Palestine from North Dublin. Where are you from?

[@gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926]

😂😂😂😂 thats cuz u have that privilege they dont

[@めのはふくき]

christianity is corrupt search ahmed deedat

[@ramon2008]

Separation of church and state is a European invention that’s completely retarded and is inly needed in a retarded system that contains democracy and Christianity or any other abrahamic religion

[@ravinraven6913]

We say the same thing here in the states. I am a proud Irishman, but when people like myself go over to Ireland, we get ridiculed and harrased. Your not Irish, you're American...well Irish IS my heritage, unless you're different than most Irish...thats the definition of hypocrisy. We were starving and instead of leaving it to the people who caused it, we left. But that doesn't mean we are not Irish. Americans are Irish, they are scottish. They are dutch and chinese, we are korean and Itallian. But I am Irish.

[@rbfabc]

Not good when the main competing political parties/ideologies in a country are driven by militarism on the one side and orthodox religiosity on the other.

[@samuctrebla3221]

I thought exactly the same thing. But as everywhere else there's the silent, reasonable majority. It's hard to have a grasp on them with only interviews like that.

[@alanmazzucchelli9013]

It's a divide between Zionists having taken Palestinian land and homes by force vs. a fanatical religious sect seperate from the. mainstream.

[@mindremote]

This video is missing the history context of the Jewish community's original opposition to the state of Israel which has been long standing within the orthodox community.

[@aspektx]

Opposition is understandable. I've heard some explanation as to why. I think the major problem people are having is that the Haredi are taking but not giving in return.

[@walleras]

@@aspektx Hatzlachah and cheverim are heredi

[@kaig8555]

​@@walleras it's called hatzalah. Which means rescue/saving. Hatzlachah (which you wrote) means good luck.

[@walleras]

@@kaig8555 Autocorrect

[@majl7917]

The only state in the world that's never known a single day of peace since its conception.

[@miguelleruitte7001]

Nulle part dans le monde les juifs n ont connu la paix c est normal quand on passe sont temps à faire chier les autres on ramasse dans sa gueule .

[@LeeDavis-si1ho]

@abumuslimal-asiani2066 Which people have not ?

[@67DUTCHMAN]

These jewish men eschew modernism. Except for curling irons.

[@ojitosrodriguez114]

I've seen images of them using plastic tube curlers. They look cute with it on i think hehehe.

[@nunnayabiz7911]

Love those outfits

[@mamamarianovits9029]

Dutch Touch .... comical.😅

[@anthonywilkes5290]

@Elad Korish free.messianicbible.com/

[@sadasawey47]

Weird... Usually the fanatics always militeristic

[@mistax2k]

Not when you get to live fat off the dole and let others do your dirty work.

[@chuasmare22]

Goo Eater they are but its spiritual

[@fatboi4511]

This gives me HOI4 British Raj conscription flashbacks.

[@user-qf4ny9yx7r]

@@robloxfanboy86 even then u still can run ur entire game on limited conscription

[@TY-gh2yf]

What flashbacks, you'd have to be at least fighting age when India got independence. Which would make you in your 90s.

[@user-qf4ny9yx7r]

@@TY-gh2yf from hoi4

[@goofsterngafster8411]

+50% Religious bonus

[@PSILOCYBINISTHEWAY]

A draft, because they know no one would sign up for genocide.

[@cuckholdsimulator1176]

Pretty bad genocide considering Palestines population has only been growing

[@chrisb7198]

hamas are not a people they are a terrorist group. Them and their supporters in gaza are finding out. They committed genocide on Oct 7th.

[@nickjohnson1424]

I love how they only want all the good stuff from the country but arnt actually willing to do anything for it

[@billielachatte4841]

What are u talking about!? They do contribute by praying for themselves.

[@nickjohnson1424]

@@billielachatte4841 Ahhhh yes how could I forget-they pray for themselves not to have to actually do anything and just reap all the benefits

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

So selfish of them. Whatever happened with "tzedakah"?

[@beatalet]

you don't actually see anything, they didn't ask for any of those things, they are a separate people from secular Israelis and they don't use the state's infrastructure, don't use phones or media or hospitals or anything they can live by themselves, they just don't have anywhere else to go, their book says that is their land

[@nickjohnson1424]

@@beatalet Hmmmmmmmmm if someone was in my house living in it-I would expect them ton contribute to it

[@Natebg]

A well prepared documentary. However, one key point is missing. The Israeli army’s mandatory draft was put into action in the early years of the state with 2 key missions: the first and most obvious - to defend and protect Israel’s borders and citizens from any hostility. The second, as Ben-Gurion emphasised many times was a program that would form and shape a uniformed (secular) Israeli society. Many years have passed, and despite many officers in the Israeli army agree that there is a surplus of recruits due to the mandatory draft system, many of which aren’t actually contributing in any way to the army (many officers have more than one secretaries, some of which are only there to provide refreshments); and despite many professionals and politicians argue its time to stop mandatory drafting and push for a more professional army, like many other western countries; the state of Israel still runs a mandatory draft system. The argument being made is that the only reason for no change is because of Ben-Gurions secondary mission. This is what’s missing from your video. Saying that Israeli officials are desperate for more soldiers to defend against uprisings is not entirely accurate, and clearly not the reason they’re after “haredi” youth (majority of “haredi” recruits do not serve in the field, and most of them have quite comfortable conditions).

[@h4vehart]

Interesting point you raise. The unifying nature of a conscription defence force is definitely one missed in this video.

[@hudsonhawk90]

The point is incorrect. The IDF prepares everyone for the war. Everyone needs to do the service. Officers do not have secretaries in the infantry, Navy and Air Force units. Maybe you are referring to the Admin core. But, most likely, you don’t know what you talking about.

[@ladymsthing6056]

Natan BG thank you for breaking this down.

[@zackabee5498]

Oh wow so it’s mandatory, I heard about that, but I didn’t believe it thanks for the explanation

[@paull2166]

When we say Israel... are we talking about occupied Palestine. 🇯🇴❤🇺🇸

[@fernandoxavier3089]

They don't call themselves "ultraorthodox". They are just orthodox.

[@bobsagetthelord6621]

Barely any ideology calls themself ultra anything. Extremes are inherently a negative thing and the opposition usually labels you that.

[@idontspeakminecraft1475]

They are ultra orthodox and they calling themselves like that

[@kaig8555]

Lol they don't call themselves ultraorthodox, they call themselves haredim. But Judaism has generally been divided into three sections, reform, conservative, and orthodox. There is a large variety ranging from the most modern orthodox and the most religious orthodox. Therefore, haredim are called ultra orthodox. You won't find haredim who disagree with this label as it is very accurate in its description.

[@AdelGmal-y2f]

How were the Palestinians able to live with these people for so long?

[@Kessemboohaha]

As a secular Israeli, I'd like to add my perspective on the issue. Contrary to what was said in the video, the IDF does NOT need the Haredim, and it probably doesn't need at least a third of he people who are already being drafted. The security needs of he state don't rise nrise proportion to the population. There are two basic motivations for drafting the Haredim. 1) Integration of the Haredim into Israeli society - as a man interviewed in the film said, "we are Bnei Israel (Sons of Israel - Jews) NOT Israelis". This is seen as a problem in secular Israely society for many reasons, a big one being an economic one. 2) The petty Israeli value of "not being a sucker", which was literally the slogan of the whole movement to draft the Haredim. "If I sacrifice three years of my life to protect the country, why shouldn't they?". In the last elections a new populist secular politician was elected into government, and one of his big promises was creating "equality in the burden (of protecting the country)", he got voted into government because masses are by their nature stupid and petty. If you ask my opinion? There is no reason to draft them, in fact if we're talking about burdens, the financial burden of maintaining a constantly growing army on the economy is the real burden. On the other hand, I think that something needs to be done about the constantly growing rift in society.

[@Tali5899]

Love that someone from 'your side',can speak up and say the truth out loud.

[@ladderzombie]

I agree with you, the efforts to draft Haredim are 100% political. Yes, some of their communities have become too extreme in their opposition so they don't even go to the draft centers anymore. But the IDF is shifting away from being a conscript army and is trying to professionalize. There is no reason to contradict those efforts by forcing thousands of recruits into a military they detest.

[@stale.baguette]

religion just breeds extremism

[@missk7001]

Very interesting many thanks. I find it unjust they benefit from the taxpayers but don’t give back financially or with their work force. I’m times when life gets more and more expensive it’s just not correct.

[@Tali5899]

@@missk7001 How do they benefit from the taxpayers Miss Politically Correct but totally incorrect?

[@eslamanwar3240]

لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله

[@يَرَتوَيَبّالُحُبّقًلُبّيَ]

✋✌️✌️ونعم بالله لكن سؤال اصحاب القبعات السود والشعر الطويل لماذا يتصارعون مع لباس الزي العسكري لم يكون نفس الشي؟

[@adamlchgar3813]

يَرَتْـہٰوَيَ بّالُہحُبّ قًـلُبّيَ على ماقال واحد منهم انهم ينتمون الى اليهود وليس اسرائيل لذالك لا يريدون الانضمام الى الجيش

[@adamlchgar3813]

يَرَتْـہٰوَيَ بّالُہحُبّ قًـلُبّيَ على ماقال واحد منهم انهم ينتمون الى اليهود وليس اسرائيل لذالك لا يريدون الانضمام الى الجيش

[@يَرَتوَيَبّالُحُبّقًلُبّيَ]

@@adamlchgar3813 اها صح لانو هم عدهم النظام اجباري لزم ينضمون للجيش هم لا يقبلون

[@asaifaji]

It's hard without harakat, i didn't even finnished jurumiyyah. Anybody translate?

[@SoulsOnly]

"ultra-orthodox" Lives in a Jewish state before the coming of the Messiah wut

[@cxarhomell5867]

The three oaths have already been fulfilled, mohammed.

[@michaeld.3779]

They want the land, but want others to fight for it. Sounds about right.

[@baronoflight]

Now I see why they have so many enemies...

[@neo9706]

baronoflight like Germany

[@jamesmason3687]

Dom Porter sadly Germany the us and the rest of the world are far to supportive of Israel

[@yomama6605]

@@neo9706 it was only one maniac a decade ago and not Germany and Germany did everything to undo the mistakes from the past

[@zechariahhh]

Dom Porter I’m pretty Germany is chill with everyone now, I could be wrong

[@faizaniqbal1683]

I am really confused now. If majority is secular then what are the grounds upon which Israel is built?

[@flipierfatalbina4757]

Colonizing Palestinians

[@eyalronen7503]

National home for the Jewish people. Like Egypt for Egyptians, France for French, and China for Chinese.

[@adammazeli]

eyal ronen idk man those blonde hair sure look like german not some ethnic group from middle east

[@alimran7055]

@drc ula Secular means disconnected from religious or spiritual ideology. Israel is built on the ideology of colonizing a home specifically for the Jewish. Quite ironic.

[@georgechristiansen6785]

It had jack shit to do with religion or persecution. Both of those claims are just to get the world to feel sorry enough for them to do their bidding.

[@DrNukeShow]

I don't think anyone should be forced to do military service, but if someone has to, everyone should have to.

[@ivicabaksa2375]

Funny! God took the 300 voluntiers from river to liberate the Promise Land with Jesus Navin on head of army to kill' or Destroy all the pagans!!!!!!!!!!!! No excuse for the 'must have' way of serving millitary forces beacuse of moral values of Bible and Torah. :-/

[@ab_12_8]

But it goes against they’re religion, forcing them to go to the military is you not allowing them to practice they’re religion

[@DrNukeShow]

@@ab_12_8 Religion doesn't mean special treatment. If they can't do military service, maybe they can help in other ways. In ways that don't interfere as much with their studies. Still, most put their lives and other academic pursuits on hold for military service. Why can't they? However, if it were up to me, no one would be forced to do military service.

[@zm35r2bn]

The Army is protecting you and you call them garbage I'm an American that was standing behind Israel and this just shocked the crap out of me oh Lord oh Lord

[@Mom_sBasement]

When leaders declare war, nobody from either side should show up. You may call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

[@muhammadasadjunaid9735]

why needs people when all you need is a button

[@checktheskies5040]

Mom's Basement agreed. War is not what God wants, the needs of phycopathic leaders prevails. Shame on the haters. World peace to evolve.

[@shoshand7154]

"Imagine no possessions... I wonder if you can"....John Lennon owned real estate worth more than some small countries' GDP. Lennon was even questioned by his own backup musicians about this obvious hypocrisy. Lennon's answer to them: "It's only a song." Where is John Lennon now, the same Lennon who said "Imagine there's no Heaven"...

[@SophieHalaKahiki]

shosh shosha exactly, John Lennon was also a nasty abusive man who shouldn’t be respected

[@shoshand7154]

It's sad too Sophie that little kids are singing his song, giving this hypocrite honor and following a lie. Lies always end in death and separation from G-d.

[@Tarzan315]

And these people are getting billions from ou taxes in military aid???

[@Musicman-q2x]

Baruch Dego Nah you seem pretty ugly. Why else would you reply like that?

[@Musicman-q2x]

Baruch Dego that's true anyone can be Jewish

[@Musicman-q2x]

Baruch Dego but you don't have to be Jewish to be Israeli do you? Like is it possible to be born in Israel and raised under Christian doctrine? I thought I saw on Google earth that they got temples for all 3 if the mainstream monotheistic religions.

[@queenofthorns6746]

American aid to Israel is 1% of Israel's GDP AND Israel is required to spend 85% of the aid on BUYING US made weapons. Did you know that?

[@jubhgioubgob]

Queen of Thorns bull shit. You made them figures up, at least make then realistic next time.

[@spacecatjohn6770]

3:16 dude wanted to floss his designer hat!

[@Onlyambient]

“We are taking enemy territory” The enemy: 5 year old Palestinian child..

[@nicelydone1]

i think youre confusing a 5 years old to a 18+ savage with ak, rpg, grandes shooting at a 5 years old jewish kid

[@sinastickl8884]

How many 18+ year old Palestinian did you heard of pointing a gun at a 5year old Jewish child or even killing it and how many 18+ Jewish you heard of pointing a gun towards a 5 year old Palestinian and killing it? Just stay with the facts and you will know the truth! Open your eyes!

[@НаргизаРысалиева-д8м]

​@@nicelydone1 а вы путаете себя- вы ведь на самом деле фашисты, разбойники и оккупанты. Бродяги, которые отобрали землю у других. Нахлебники и паразиты.

[@Yet333]

@@nicelydone1Talmud

[@crookedpaths6612]

They look so much healthier having joined the army. Must the sun, fresh air and exercise.

[@zakariyaiqbal7220]

and shooting cuz who have nothing but rocks u people need to help the palestinians and not treat them as if they are outsiders

[@Aboodi001]

@Liban Suleiman innocent children killed just trying to say some bad words to the Israeli army men who killed childrens parents, Israel do you have a heart? #Freepalistine

[@cinemapizzas2957]

@@Aboodi001 lmao u guys are sad

[@Aboodi001]

@@cinemapizzas2957 So I shouldn't if my mom got shot by a Israeli sniper?

[@nintendolover9701]

Viperz 9862 have you even been here to see that we kill innocent children? Where has this lie came from?

[@jesswebb2200]

I won't serve but I want you to protect me???

[@thegombie]

Because they are superior the chosen of God.

[@aidanknisch1996]

Yes. Did you serve in the military? No? Same principle applies to you

[@abdulsaid1878]

Jess Webb is Anti Semitic

[@bhatfirdous1081]

Self proclaimed god choosen people 😂😂😂 my ass😁

[@praeceptor]

You think it the wrong way: they don't need a vessel like a "state" to protect them. They've got their special relationship with God, and that's all that matters.

[@dustintacohands1107]

Never liked these fools they think their better than everyone else.

[@duckvenom]

Yeah, they wrote book stating they are "chosen". You have to observe their religion over yours. 🙄

[@dustintacohands1107]

@@duckvenom choosen or not they look like inbred douche bags to me.

[@storm3772]

Jewish circumcision practices We first encounter the practice in the Mishnah, the first compendium of laws of rabbinic Judaism (c. 200 CE): “We perform all the requirements of circumcision on the Sabbath: We circumcise, uncover, suck, and place a compress with cumin on it” (Sabbath 19b).

[@JohanKylander]

Anti Semite

[@damone70]

@@JohanKylander It's got nothing to do with their religion, it's got to do with one group being taught they are superior to all others.

[@mingyuhuang8944]

9 years later and it's only gotten worse. Truly depressing situation in Israel

[@hammadhussain3082]

3:14 Let me hop sideways, that'd not reveal my identity for sure.

[@WeyardWiz]

😂😂😂

[@straightwarlock5341]

Hammad Hussain some of those plebs do not understand how the camera works. You can see this all over the 3rd world, or in minorities like ultraorthodox

[@mizumochidonuts8194]

@@straightwarlock5341 Oo,so that's how it is

[@FikAb]

When I was serving at the conscription army, I was serving at the EMERCOM (in my country it is Civil Defence Forces), I have been taught mine clearance and population rescue after bombing or natural disasters. I have not been taught to shoot or smth, I am secular, but I guess for a spiritual or religious person this is the best way to serve in the military.

[@amitbarak9475]

No, that's not related to why they don't join the army. And besides Israel doesn't need many people doing this relative to it's other needs from the army.

[@plejady]

devil defence forces

[@jesusisgodfriendandlove469]

Look up the Lady of Guadalupe it's been proven by scientists to be a miracle

[@miguelladinodevera614]

In the Armed Forces of the Phils, if chooses to be a conscientious objector to military service it would mean becoming a pencil pushing assistant or medic. Ofc the AFP is quite secular practically but has firm religious views regardless of any potential recruit's belief or faith. The professional troops r as well trained as one might imagine even though there r issues of equipping them with proper boots, protective gear, or even ample vehicles.

[@yotamcool4661]

I love that in minute 2:31 all of the sign’s are not even related to the article :)

[@veraalex7446]

Lol

[@roryhaidar9164]

What does it says?

[@Omriwein]

Rory Haidar “the cuts in the public systems kill us” and “Bibi (Israeli prime minister) - Its good for the rich”

[@SB-hs4yn]

Seems like a boring life, just studying the religion you were born into, not exposed to science or technology. Feel bad for them.

[@danieltanirverdov4838]

+Michael Froimchuk How would you feel doing the same thing for about 60 years?

[@Hlea613]

+sloan boyce dear dude, Haredim believe that all knowledge is revealed to humans through the Chumash. That, most certainly, doesn't stop any Jew, no matter their orthodoxy, from studying science, math, liberal arts, and other religions and philosophies.

[@kingmori1]

+sloan boyce Do not feel bad for them. They are living the life they choose to live. If it their way to live happily, that's their business.

[@nbb2153]

+sloan boyce i definitely see your point of view, but if you ever happened to pick up biblical/classical Hebrew and Aramaic, you will read some of the coolest most fascinating shit ever.

[@VimpiricalSociety]

+sloan boyce they are not into science, but they ARE into finances and banking