The untold story of Jewish Christian; Ebionites & Nazarenes

Jewish Christians, as faithful religious Jews, "regarded their movement as an affirmation of every aspect of contemporary Judaism, with the addition of one extra belief that Jesus was the Messiah.
Jewish Christians were the original members of the Jewish movement that later became Christianity.

[@TheElijahMuhammad]

Seems like the Ebionites were legit followers of Jesus

[@thehastyterrainmaker9485]

They were the Jerusalem Church under James the Just. The Book of Acts AND Paul tells us James was the head of the church. Peter is claimed as the first BUT that is incorrect and James was killed before Peter was. So at best leadership passed from James to Peter, at best. The Ebionites continued on as James taught and were labelled Heretics by the Apostolic Father's AND Eusibius as well

[@BanCommies_Fascists]

No they reject the virgin birth. Nazarene were the real followers of Jesus

[@TheElijahMuhammad]

@@BanCommies_Fascists The belief in the virgin birth is dominant because of Constantine and the power of the sword. Prior to that there were many sects or followers of Jesus that held different views about his life and ministry. The Ebionites being one of them. The views of Paul were later championed by Constantine because he preached obedience to kings and governments. Romans 13

[@dannyhuskerjay]

James taught that his brother was the son of God. We have his writings . The Nazarenes became the Arminian Orthodox Church .

[@TheElijahMuhammad]

@@dannyhuskerjay The Ebionites would interpret the term “Son of God” the same way Jesus interpreted it. Someone who is a favored of God. Someone who is unique like any other Prophet. Jesus justified the term “Son of God” in Psalms 82:6. Jesus gave the context of it. Not James.

[@jia7302]

We did not disappear we are still here

[@Visibleconfusion97]

You still got original scripture, then? 😮

[@marcorolo4726]

⁠ Ebionites makes more logical sense than the bizarre and weird trinity doctrine some still think is real. Ebonites are definitely closer to the truth. By miles

[@Nazarene_Judaism]

Yes we are.

[@atheistapostate7019]

GREAT video, historically accurate and SPOT on! Nice to see!

[@joehinojosa8030]

Gentile Christianity( Rome) Overwhelmed Jewish( Ebionite) christians

[@dannyhuskerjay]

Wrong . Jewish Christianity survives in isreal in the form of the Armenian Orthodox Church . James said in his epistle that his brother was the son of God.

[@joehinojosa8030]

@@dannyhuskerjay You could have a good point. The Antiochian orthodox church claims direct descent from Acts 11:26.

[@nidzbenzainuddin7508]

Wrong'..! It is only Paul's teaching in misled' the true teaching Jesus p.b.u.h. As proof whether they are Jews or Samaritans, Black Hebrew, or Ishmaelites, they are circumcised as follows back to Abraham's Laws. Only Paul was divided by Jews and Gentiles, hence it's not.. In the time of Moses, Only Paul's abolished the laws of God in his preaching to the European on his tour and died in Cyprus.

[@samuelmithran5586]

@@nidzbenzainuddin7508 Paul did not abolish the law, He did not obligate gentiles to the Jewish law because Jewish law was meant for Jews. Circumcission is a physical sign of the covenant between God and the physical descendants of Abraham not Gentiles from foreign lands. You seriously misunderstand both Paul and Jewish law.

[@jasonwebley6440]

​@@samuelmithran5586do you read your Bible? Where in the scripture does it states that the law of God is only for the Jews? Show me that scripture that said the law was only for the jews. If you would like I can point you to countless scripture that states that one law for jews and for the Gentiles. God is not one who shows partiality but in every nation who ever fears him and work righteousness is accepted. The law of Moses AKA the law of God is righteousness According to the scripture.

[@who6184]

Baruk Haba Bashem YAHUWAH RAPHA NISSI ELOHAI TSEVA’OTH!!!! Shalom Mishpacha.

[@simonskinner1450]

Christianity divorced from its roots in the 2nd century, as it dies not follow the law of Abraham. I have a Ytube video series called 'Myths in so-called Christianity'.

[@us3rG]

The Ethiopians?

[@simonskinner1450]

​@@us3rGnow there is a study. But I find only evidence from centuries after Jesus.

[@adrianabonitaaziz]

He was the last Warner/ messenger sent to the Children of Israël. He didn't came as an incarnation , nor as a lamb for sacrifice . He came to fulfill the laws given to all messengers before him and to bring glad tidings to the doers of good while serving God alone .

[@deeppurple883]

What will be, will be. Be kind to all. If you can't do a good turn don't do a bad one.🤗💞

[@marciwyrd8905]

I can't watch this, either actually talk or get a better robot voice. If you're a mute I'm sorry, but this robot voice pisses me off more than damn near everything. It's literally What I hear when I pick up the phone every damn time, and if is a robot and not a human I just hang up. I don't care if you're a bank, the cops, the IRS, or the president. If you are going to call me, you better be human.

[@user-zh6mk4so4v]

Thank you.

[@giovanni545]

Revelation 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

[@yousifyacoub6707]

Interesting information

[@youngknowledgeseeker]

Paul never advocated faith alone saves. Or I should say, Paul never thought “faith” was “mental affirmation” alone. Faith included works for Paul. Just not “works of the (Mosaic) Law” (circumcision, Sabbaths, Holy Days, Rituals, specific clothing Rules, Food Observances, etc). "Moral" works were 100% advocated and required by Paul in “faith”. All this can be easily seen by simply giving Romans, Galatians, or Corinthians a quick read through. Pay attention to when he mentions what God requires of us, what Paul himself expects to see and hear about the behavior of his letters recipients, what he thinks God expects of Paul himself, what he says will allow or bar inheritance into the Kingdom, how he himself speaks about and defines "faith" etc.

[@ericthegreat7805]

The term translated as Faith in English is Pistis in Greek. It literally means Faithfullness. The point of Abraham being justified by "Pistis" was that if he lived before the time Moses gave the law, how could he have been saved unless he had Pistis, was FAITHFUL, to the God of the Old Testament. The reading of Paul as "Faith alone" is an anachronistic, anti-Catholic and antisemitic reading inherited from the Reformation onwards, where they saw themselves in Paul and tied the Roman Pope to the legalism and alleged corruption of the Jerusalem Church. It is an obvious strawman but due to Protestant influence we keep misreading Paul. It was meant to justify pure opportunism and the refusal to do any Works (synonymous with and strawmanned as "blindly following Rome's orders") to achieve salvation. So you are correct that Paul was not against "works" but it was tied to his understanding of "faith", and that the specific thing he was speaking against was the need for everyond to follow the law of Moses to be saved.

[@michaelchristian5963]

It 100 percent included works of the Law. Look at how the early followers of Yeshua lived. Their faith was perfected by their obedience to Elohim's commands.

[@youngknowledgeseeker]

@@michaelchristian5963 The faith grew and developed over time. We see this in Acts. They learned that Gentiles were being grafted in on equal status without needing to keep the Mosaic law, only needing to keep the law of Messiah. So yes the earliest followers did keep the law of Moses and some thought it was a necessity. But eventually they learned that was not the case especially in the case of Gentile converts.

[@michaelchristian5963]

@@youngknowledgeseeker if that's true, then why did the Jerusalem council implore the Gentiles who were being grafted in to learn Moses on the Sabbath? (Acts chapter 15)

[@youngknowledgeseeker]

@michaelchristian5963 I think, respectfully, that's a misreading of the text. Rather the text is saying that there are Jews "everywhere" (since Moses had been preached since old everywhere). And so some customs must be observed by the Gentiles to facilitate cohesion and fellowship between them and Jewish Christians. After all, the gathering places were probably synagogues first and foremost. It's very hard to read or reconcile Paul and even Hebrews with the idea that Acts or any other book of the NT teaches Mosaic observance. Paul is so firm about this point in Galatians he has to say that those Gentiles in Galatia who choose to observe Moses because they think it's what God now requires of them and so what will help save them, he has to say that those Galatians have cut themselves off from Christ and potentially salvation. Paul says that rather we are under the "law of Messiah." These can be very confusing or hard topics to understand or read or get good teachers for. I wish the best for you and I also hope God grants us truth always.

[@HHasan-of2vi]

We don't have with us teachings of Ebionites and Nazarenes to compare with New testament. But we know from New testament the difference in teachings and practices between James, Peter vs Paul as well as Jewish vs Gentile Christianity.

[@budyharianto8229]

So?!...no literary teaching on this anymore??

[@kevinkall8547]

are you a Gentile Christian?

[@HHasan-of2vi]

@@kevinkall8547 Doesn't matter here.

[@LearnwithAdeelAslam]

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[@yahyaelmi8435]

So do you follow Jesus or Paul ?

[@josetavares9573]

Shalom and Avahath to all Good Video on it's origins to this story " Judeo Christianity " Elohim loves you all.

[@muslim_warner]

I don't understand what your second greeting. But based on the first, my response to you is: و عليك السلام

[@rosscullen3992]

@TheComingKingdomOfYahweh Did Jesus say "I forgive you of your sins?". Or he said "Your sins are forgiven"?

[@draculemihawk6318]

Because Paul is DISOBEDIENT OF THE LAW or the THORAH LAW ,,Paul teaches the TALMUD LAW w/c is comes from HUMAN LAW or intellectually from mans wisdom alone nit from the PURE WORD OF GOD w/c is the THORAH LAW alone..

[@ihsanamsal2947]

God forgive them, love them, pardon them, and accept their pardon 😔

[@80a7x]

Good job!

[@messianicagejudaism]

here it is the Hebrew Messiah explained @

[@qinoqino7643]

youtube Total Onslaught series N Why So Many Bible Versions via Walter Veith at Amazing Discoveries

[@YanniEhm]

This is incorrect. The Nazarenes were Hebrew, Israelites, not Jews, The word Jew does not exist in the New Testament for a reason; it is supposed to be Judean. not Jew, it is a miss translation, and Judaism as we know it today, came out of the Pharisees.

[@zulfhashimmi2040]

The Shia of Jesus esp with the emphasis on his family

[@jonathansmiddy7224]

I've got 35 different Christian *churches within a 5 mile radius of my house.

[@helorumtheknightsofmambrin2155]

Concerning the Ebionites Hippolytus says: "The Ebionites, however, acknowledge that the world was made by Him Who is in reality God, but they propound legends concerning the Christ similarly with Cerinthus and Carpocrates. They live conformably to the customs of the Jews, alleging that they are justified according to the law, and saying that Jesus was justified by fulfilling the law. And therefore it was, (according to the Ebionites,) that (the Saviour) was named (the) Christ of God and Jesus, since not one of the rest (of mankind) had observed completely the law. For if even any other had fulfilled the commandments (contained) in the law, he would have been that Christ. And the (Ebionites allege) that they themselves also, when in like manner they fulfil (the law), are able to become Christs; for they assert that our Lord Himself was a man in a like sense with all (the rest of the human family) (Ἐβιωναῖοι δὲ ὁμολογοῦσι τὸν κόσμον ὑπὸ τοῦ ὄντως θεοῦ γεγονέναι· τὰ δὲ περὶ τὸν Χριστὸν ὁμοίως τῷ Κηρίνθῳ καὶ Καρποκράτει μυθεύουσιν. Ἔθεσιν Ἰουδαϊκοῖς ζῶσι, κατὰ νόμον φάσκοντες δικαιοῦσθαι, καὶ τὸν Ἰησοῦν λέγοντες δεδικαιῶσθαι ποιήσαντα τὸν νόμον· διὸ καὶ Χριστὸν αὐτὸν τοῦ θεοῦ ὠνομάσθαι, καὶ Ἰησοῦν, ἐπεὶ μηδεὶς αὐτῶν ἐτέλεσε τὸν νόμον· εἰ γὰρ καὶ ἕτερός τις πεποιήκει τὰ ἐν νόμῳ προστεταγμένα, ἦν ἂν ἐκεῖνος ὁ Χριστός. Δύνασθαι δὲ καὶ ἑαυτοὺς ὁμοίως ποιήσαντας, χριστοὺς γενέσθα· καὶ γὰρ καὶ αὐτὸν ὁμοίως ἄνθρωπον εἶναι πᾶσι λέγουσιν.).” Hippolytus of Rome (Ἱππόλυτος Ῥώμης) (170-235 AD), Refutation of All Heresies (Κατὰ πασῶν αἱρέσεων ἔλεγχος), Book VII, Chapter 22 (chapter 34 in Greek). Psalm 69:33 King James Version (KJV) 33 For the Lord heareth the poor (אביונים = Ebionites = πτωχοὶ [LXX]), and despiseth not his prisoners. ἰδέτωσαν πτωχοὶ καὶ εὐφρανθήτωσαν· ἐκζητήσατε τὸν Θεόν, καὶ ζήσεται ἡ ψυχὴ ὑμῶν, כי־שמע אל־אביונים יהוה ואת־אסיריו לא בזה׃ Hebrew Text. Peter, James, and John require that Paul collect money for the “poor (οἱ πτωχοὶ = Ebionites)” in Jerusalem: Galatians 2:8-12 King James Version (KJV) 8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:) ὁ γὰρ ἐνεργήσας Πέτρῳ εἰς ἀποστολὴν τῆς περιτομῆς, ἐνήργησε καὶ ἐμοὶ εἰς τὰ ἔθνη 9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision. καὶ γνόντες τὴν χάριν τὴν δοθεῖσάν μοι, Ἰάκωβος καὶ Κηφᾶς καὶ Ἰωάννης, οἱ δοκοῦντες στῦλοι εἶναι, δεξιὰς ἔδωκαν ἐμοὶ καὶ Βαρναβᾷ κοινωνίας, ἵνα ἡμεῖς εἰς τὰ ἔθνη, αὐτοὶ δὲ εἰς τὴν περιτομήν· 10 Only they would that we should remember the poor (τῶν πτωχῶν); the same which I also was forward to do. μόνον τῶν πτωχῶν ἵνα μνημονεύωμεν, ὃ καὶ ἐσπούδασα αὐτὸ τοῦτο ποιῆσαι. 11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. Ὅτε δὲ ἦλθε Πέτρος εἰς Ἀντιόχειαν, κατὰ πρόσωπον αὐτῷ ἀντέστην, ὅτι κατεγνωσμένος ἦν. 12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. πρὸ τοῦ γὰρ ἐλθεῖν τινας ἀπὸ Ἰακώβου, μετὰ τῶν ἐθνῶν συνήσθιεν· ὅτε δὲ ἦλθον, ὑπέστελλε καὶ ἀφώριζεν ἑαυτόν, φοβούμενος τοὺς ἐκ περιτομῆς. Romans 15:25-27 King James Version (KJV) 25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. νυνὶ δὲ πορεύομαι εἰς Ἰερουσαλήμ, διακονῶν τοῖς ἁγίοις. 26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor (τοὺς πτωχοὺς = Ebionites) saints which are at Jerusalem. εὐδόκησαν γὰρ Μακεδονία καὶ Ἀχαΐα κοινωνίαν τινὰ ποιήσασθαι εἰς τοὺς πτωχοὺς τῶν ἁγίων τῶν ἐν Ἰερουσαλήμ. 27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things. εὐδόκησαν γάρ, καὶ ὀφειλέται αὐτῶν εἰσιν. εἰ γὰρ τοῖς πνευματικοῖς αὐτῶν ἐκοινώνησαν τὰ ἔθνη, ὀφείλουσι καὶ ἐν τοῖς σαρκικοῖς λειτουργῆσαι αὐτοῖς. The authors of the Dead Se Scrolls refer to themselves as Ebionites: 4Q171 2:7-12 7 Ps 37:10 I will stare at his place and he will no longer be there. Its interpretation concerns all the wickedness at the end 8 of the forty years, for they will be completed and upon the earth no [wic]ked person will be found. 9 Ps 37:11 And the poor shall possess the land and enjoy peace in plenty. Its interpretation concerns 10 the congregation of the poor (האביונים = the Ebionites) who will tough out the period of distress and will be rescued from all the snares of 11 Belial (בליעל). Afterwards, all who shall po[sse]ss the land will enjoy and grow fat with everything enjoy[able to] 12 the flesh. 7 ואתבוננה על מקומו ואיננו פשרו על כול הרשעה לסוף 8 ארבעים השנה אשר יתמו ולוא ימצא בארץ כול איש 9 ר]שע וענוים ירשו ארץ והתענגו על רוב שלום פשרו על] 10 עדת האביונים אשר יקבלו את מועד התענית ונצלו מכול פחי 11 [בליעל ואחר יתענגו כול יו[ר]שי הארץ והתדשנו בכול תענ[וג 12 בשר

[@YaoEspirito]

Tip: If your robot can't pronounce the key words of your topic, but rather mangles it into incomprehension, don't engage a robot to narrate your video.

[@TheCrossroads533]

Is that a robot narrator?

[@YaoEspirito]

Making a laughable mess of this video.

[@SheedLordBear]

So if they followed the law then they followed a religion different than Paul’s religion

[@emmetsweeney9236]

The Ebionitism, or Nazarites, were the inspiration for Islam. Ebionitism is essentially proto-Islam: it is a million miles from genuine Christianity.

[@AnHebrewChild]

The Ebionites & Nazarenes look similar to each other (compared to Pauline Christianity) but they are not the same. They both profess to follow the Torah and the teachings of Yeho'shua (Jesus). Critically tho, the Ebion denied and removed the first 3 chapters of the gospel written by Apostle Matthew and reject that Jesus's spirit is the Spirit of God. Sadly, a lot of people waking up to Paul are running from one error to another: they're being deceived into Ebionite beliefs. The Nazarenes, by contrast, affirmed and we continue to affirm that Ye'shua was born of a virgin, as well as that the Messiah's spirit is the Spirit of the one God. This is not trinity doctrine. Every human has a spirit. Job 7:11 Therefore I will speak in the anguish of _my spirit;_ I will complain in the bitterness of my soul. Just as you have a body and a mind... you also have a spirit. likewise Jesus. The spirit in & upon him = the Spirit of God. _ Yehovah God visited his people to save them from their sins. He did this in Jesus. Thats why J's name in Hebrew is Yeho'shua (Yehovah'Shua). That's why he is called Emmanuel which means God-with-us. Ezekiel34 (written 400 years before Christ)... For thus saith the Lord GOD Yehovah; Behold, *I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.* As a shepherd seeketh out his flock *in the day that he is AMONG his sheep* that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. The shepherd kept his promise. He visited his own sheep. Mrk6:34 < And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things. Mat26:31 > Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. Are the sheep made up only of Jews? No. He tells us who the sheep are in Matthew 25. They are people from all nations. When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: and before him shall be gathered *all nations:* and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.... *He who hath ears to hear, let him hear.*

[@khairulazmykamaluddin8222]

Jesus like all the prophets before him preach the Oneness of God. God is One. Jesus pray to his God

[@samuelmithran5586]

@@khairulazmykamaluddin8222 Jesus preached that he is the visible image of the one true God who cane down to make God available to human beings.. Muhammed is a pagan

[@wesley3300]

I hope that you receive the means to read your own scripts some day

[@salvadorvillasenor5774]

Wrong,there was no christian word on the mid first century.The word christian come from the pagan word Greeks christos,even the word Jews .

[@ronnypasaribu1015]

Revelation. There are Israelites and Nazarene. No Christian. Israel defined by God gen 32. Those who struggle with God and men and prevails. This is the reason Jesus taught the prayer,... temptation and the evil one...ring a bell? Yes.there is no Christian.

[@alzicario3466]

Ebionites believed Jesus was a prophet of God and the virgin birth. Just like Muslims today. Connect the dots

[@jib7026]

Nope

[@alzicario3466]

@@jib7026 Stay ignorant then, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Muhammad prayed to the One True God, Allah. In Jesus's language, Aramaic, he called upon Alah. In Moses's language, Paleo-Hebrew which is the oldest form of Hebrew from his time he also called upon Al or Alah. Educate yourself for the sake of your afterlife

[@petervankan1]

@@alzicario3466 The Exodus out of Egypt of hundreds of thousands of Hebrew slaves, never happened. The law of Moses was written in the 6 century BC. Get educated.

[@alzicario3466]

@@petervankan1 you are right, it was not hundreds of thousand of Hebrews. That number is literally impossible. The Quran implies that it was a small group, maybe a few dozen to a few hundreds. And the law of Moses linguistically is dated to around 12th century BC. The evidence for Moses being a real person though is immense

[@petervankan1]

@@alzicario3466 There is no evidence whatsoever of Moses having lived. And 12th century BC ? Where was the text all those centuries, until after the Babylonian exile ?

[@craigertlmaier9113]

Rabban Gamaliel said if Yeshua’s movement the Netzarim disbanded they would not be from the Lord. They officially ended in 135 ce and disappeared from history in 333 ce. This suggests that Yeshua is not the Messiah.

[@AnHebrewChild]

No. The Nazarene way continues. We are few in number though. Just as Yeho'shua said we would be.

[@spark2053]

Jews need to get to know Jesus Christ

[@Nazarene_Judaism]

messianic Judaism exists

[@elite4wellness]

I believe in Jesus, not Paul.

[@gothamknight2700]

Don, Christ Jesus called the Apostle Paul to preach the Gospel to the house of Israel and the Gentiles. Have you read Acts 9 and 1 Corinthians 1?

[@elite4wellness]

@@gothamknight2700 Paul contradicts Christ.

[@gothamknight2700]

@@elite4wellness Example??

[@gothamknight2700]

@@elite4wellness Question: Why would Christ Jesus call the Apostle Paul "His chosen vessel," if he was going to contradict Him? Acts 9:1-22 CSB Now Saul was still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord. He went to the high priest [2] and requested letters from him to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any men or women who belonged to the Way, he might bring them as prisoners to Jerusalem. [3] As he traveled and was nearing Damascus, a light from heaven suddenly flashed around him. [4] Falling to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?" [5] "Who are you, Lord?" Saul said. "I am Jesus, the one you are persecuting," he replied. [6] "But get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do." [7] The men who were traveling with him stood speechless, hearing the sound but seeing no one. [8] Saul got up from the ground, and though his eyes were open, he could see nothing. So they took him by the hand and led him into Damascus. [9] He was unable to see for three days and did not eat or drink. [10] There was a disciple in Damascus named Ananias, and the Lord said to him in a vision, "Ananias." "Here I am, Lord," he replied. [11] "Get up and go to the street called Straight," the Lord said to him, "to the house of Judas, and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, since he is praying there. [12] In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias coming in and placing his hands on him so that he may regain his sight." [13] "Lord," Ananias answered, "I have heard from many people about this man, how much harm he has done to your saints in Jerusalem. [14] And he has authority here from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name." [15] But the Lord said to him, "Go, for this man is my chosen instrument to take my name to Gentiles, kings, and Israelites. [16] I will show him how much he must suffer for my name." [17] Ananias went and entered the house. He placed his hands on him and said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road you were traveling, has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." [18] At once something like scales fell from his eyes, and he regained his sight. Then he got up and was baptized. [19] And after taking some food, he regained his strength. Saul was with the disciples in Damascus for some time. [20] Immediately he began proclaiming Jesus in the synagogues: "He is the Son of God." [21] All who heard him were astounded and said, "Isn't this the man in Jerusalem who was causing havoc for those who called on this name and came here for the purpose of taking them as prisoners to the chief priests?" [22] But Saul grew stronger and kept confounding the Jews who lived in Damascus by proving that Jesus is the Messiah. Exegesis is the standard to interpret Scripture by, not Eisegesis and bias judgment towards one of God's servant who proclaimed that Jesus is the Messiah!! You're not making sense of your own position!

[@gothamknight2700]

@SANJAYA BIRD That's your assertions against the Apostle Paul, where's your proof? Matthew 7:22-23 NASB Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' [23] And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' How can these verses apply to Paul when Christ Jesus called him His chosen vessel and appointed to do His will? You can't be serious with your response!!

[@SheedLordBear]

So Paul was an apostate according to them? Wow

[@user-jd9wm3nj3w]

The old English voice is annoying.

[@YaoEspirito]

Even worse: a crappy robot programmed to sound like a stuffy Englishman.

[@guitarzmasterz1046]

Seems like Muslims are closer to the OG Christians

[@user-ry2qs7xf9k]

*jewish christians?? mixing terms is not good*

[@illmatic1official560]

Being Jew originally has nothing to do with religion, Being Jew is a lineage and offcourse a law was given to them so we call it the "Jewish law". Now not all Jews accepted Christ, those who did later in history may have been called Jewish Christians, because being a Jew is their descent or tribe not a religion. It is no different from saying Arab Christian just that people interprete the term Jew as religion and not the latter. You see the misinterpretation now?

[@user-ry2qs7xf9k]

@@illmatic1official560 "Being Jew originally has nothing to do with religion" Yes it has "Being Jew is a lineage and offcourse a law was given to them so we call it the "Jewish law" It's called the Torah or Mosaic law the term jew has nothing to do with lineage *There was a certain Jew in Shushan the castle, whose name was Mordecai the son of Jair the son of Shimei the son of Kish, a Benjamite* Esther 2:5 Benjamin was one of Jacob son,so how can this man be from the Tribe of Benjamin and the tribe of Judah in the same time?!! Jew or Yehudi comes from the semitic verb "heda" which means to follow the right path,the authentic teachings,to be the guided one When the teachings of a prophet get weak and forgotten his followers start claiming to represent the authentic teachings this is how sects appear it happened to Moses followers and a sect among them called them selves Yehudim it happened to some Jesus followers and they're called "othodox" it happened to Muslims and they're called "sunnah" the term "christian" is another subject Peace be upon you

[@samuelmithran5586]

@@user-ry2qs7xf9k The earliest christians were Jews .....lol

[@rosscullen3992]

@TheComingKingdomOfYahweh You: I ask you again. Do you believe Jesus is God? Response: Anyway, whatever answer I give you will look for any crooked false teachings to counter my answer. Let me tell you a story. In the early days just After the Pandemic, I joined a group who adheres to the Hebrew Bible or Old Testament. And one of their teachings which came from an ancient book. They say Jesus is the highest ranking angel of God. Well, makes sense. One person who comment In this video also says the same about Jesus divinity. You can read the comments.

[@rosscullen3992]

@TheComingKingdomOfYahweh You: Do you understand the concept of Trinity? Me: I did not spend my whole life watching sports TV as maybe you. I was a Catholic and the Trinity is Crystal Clear to us since Middle School. I attended Catholic Schools of the Elite during Primary Grade School and Middle. Together with my brother we joined the Altar Boys/Sacristan School Club. We served in remote places unlike maybe you play baseball or basketball. One day, one of our uncles had a pastor visitor. And we debated him regarding praying worshipping Virign Mary. Our Uncle got angry at us. Turned out the Pastor was right. It is false teaching that Mary is mediator of God Father and Man. So goes with Paul's false teachings that Jesus is the redeemer mediator of God Father and Man.

[@musabarkindo5014]

I hate this robot voice it’s creepy

[@You.r.overdue]

Bad pronouncaton

[@YaoEspirito]

Creepy and crappy.

[@TheAmericanRoosterShow]

Do not eat meat

[@rosscullen3992]

@TheComingKingdomOfYahweh God the Father only required wicked men to turn away from wickedness, repent, ask for forgiveness, and return back to him. He says these. "I do not require blood sacrifice but only for you to ........". Now, if God Father says these, who is Paul and you to say otherwise? The evidence is in the Sins of David, and Nineveh. But you will not accept these evidence but instead look for alibi ways to circumvent the truth. For you cannot lower your pride because your mind has been conditioned by centuries old brainwashed false teachings of fake apostle Paul's Christianity that we need redeeming by Jesus flesh and blood sacrifice in order to be right in eyes of God Father-the false teachings of Paul.

[@draculemihawk6318]

The Ebionites or Abayonaym are the Pure Hebrew faithfully doing the THORAH ,,and the messiah is only a prophet ofGod not as God coz there is only one God alone,,and trinity is Fabricated by the Christian

[@donquixote3927]

Jesus is at least a demi-god - Quor’an 21 + 66

[@You.r.overdue]

They were both following the Way of the Rasul Essa as best as they knew how, even if with imperfect knowledge.

[@adelalshurbagy1113]

what do you call a jew who believes god is only one god and jesus is the messiah , human messiah ? a muslim , welcome to the truth , islam existed before muhamad folks

[@rosscullen3992]

@TheComingKingdomOfYahweh No. I gave you the statement and conditions. You research the stone facts. You are so lazy watching sports TV all your life. You want me to do your research for you. You are fishing from others. You know nothing yet when you comment sound like you are at a high spiritual level.

[@thambone30]

Although this early Jewish-Christian sect of the Ebonites (circa. early 1st-2nd C.E.) was considered heretical, and their teachings on certain aspects have certainly deviated from pure Christian doctrine, what they said about Christ as an Angel is corroborative evidence of the antiquity of this tradition and teaching going back to the Earliest Christians and to the Jews themselves, as confirmed by writings among the DSS or Dead Sea Scrolls and Philo Judaeus. Here is what Epiphanius had to say on what they taught in this regard: GREEK TEXT: “...καὶ [16.] τούτου ἕνεκα Ἰησοῦν γεγεννημένον ἐκ σπέρματος ἀνδρὸς λέγουσι καὶ ἐπιλεχθέντα καὶ οὕτω κατὰ ἐκλογὴν υἱὸν θεοῦ κληθέντα ἀπὸ τοῦ ἄνωθεν εἰς αὐτὸν ἥκοντος Χριστοῦ ἐν εἴδει περιστερᾶς. οὐ φάσκουσι δὲ ἐκ θεοῦ πατρὸς αὐτὸν γεγεννῆσθαι, ἀλλὰ κεκτίσθαι ὡς ἕνα τῶν ἀρχαγγέλων [καὶ ἔτι περισσοτέρως], αὐτὸν δὲ κυριεύειν καὶ ἀγγέλων καὶ πάντων τῶν ὑπὸ τοῦ παντοκράτορος πεποιημένων...” - (Panarion 30.16, 4-5; Κατὰ Ἐβιωναίων, τῆς δὲ ἀκολουθίας. MPG.) EPIPHANIUS OF SALAMIS (circa. 310-403 C.E.): “...And on this account they say that Jesus was begotten of the seed of a man, and was chosen; and so by the choice of God he was called the Son of God from the Christ that came into him from above in the likeness of a dove. And they deny that he was begotten of God the Father, but say that he was created as one of the archangels, yet greater, and that he is Lord of the angels and of all things made by the Almighty...” - (Pages 8-10, Panarion 30.16,4-5; Montague Rhode James in The Apocryphal New Testament, Oxford: Clarendon Press 1924) EPIPHANIUS OF SALAMIS (circa. 310-403 C.E.): “...They say that Christ was not begotten of God the Father, but created as one of the archangels ... that he rules over the angels and all the creatures of the Almighty...” - (Panarion 30.16,4-5; The Nazarenes of Mount Carmel Copyright © 1999-2006.)

[@rosscullen3992]

I have heard that teaching before from a today group that upholds the Law and God's Commandments. They teach Jesus is the Highest Ranking Angel of God .

[@thambone30]

@rosscullen3992 AN ANCIENT ARAMAIC PARAPHRASE BIBLE - SAYS IT WAS MICHAEL THE ARCH-ANGEL WHO SPOKE TO MOSES ON THE MOUNTAIN! ARAMAIC TARGUM (circa. 100 B.C.-1000 C.E.): “...BEHOLD, [23(C).] I WILL SEND AN ANGEL BEFORE THEE, TO KEEP THEE IN THE WAY, and to bring thee in to the place of My habitation which I have prepared. Be circumspect before Him, and obey His word, and BE NOT REBELLIOUS AGAINST HIS WORDS; FOR HE WILL NOT FORGIVE YOUR SINS, BECAUSE HIS WORD IS IN MY NAME. For if thou wilt indeed hearken to His word, and do all that I speak by Him, I will be the enemy of thy enemy, and will trouble them who trouble thee. FOR MY ANGEL SHALL GO BEFORE THEE, and bring thee to the Amoraee, and Pherizaee, and Kenaanaee, Hivaee, and Jebusaee; and I will destroy them. […] [24(A).] AND - ( MICHAEL ), - ( THE PRINCE OF WISDOM ), - SAID TO MOSHEH ON THE SEVENTH DAY OF THE MONTH, Come up before the Lord, thou and Aharon, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, and worship at a distance. And Mosheh alone shall approach before the Lord; but they shall not draw nigh, nor may the people come up with him...” - (Pgs. 515-527, Exodus Chapter 23(C)-24(A), Section XVIII, Mishpatim, TARGUM PSEUDO-JONATHAN, PENTATEUCHAL TARGUMIM “The Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan Ben Uzziel On the Pentateuch With The Fragments of the Jerusalem Targum From the Chaldee,” by J. W. Etheridge, M.A. First Published 1862.) ARAMAIC TARGUM (circa. 100 B.C.-1000 C.E.): “...MICHAEL, THE PRINCE OF WISDOM, SAID TO MOSES ON THE SEVENTH DAY OF THE MONTH...” - (Page 231, Chapter 24, “Targum Neofiti 1, Exodus” Translated by Martin McNamara, Michael Maher, Liturgical Press, from the University of Michigan 1994.)

[@thambone30]

@rosscullen3992 AN ANCIENT ARAMAIC PARAPHRASE BIBLE - SAYS IT WAS MICHAEL THE ARCH-ANGEL, THE ANGEL OF THE LORD WHO WRESTLED WITH JACOB! ARAMAIC TARGUM (circa. 100 B.C.-1000 C.E.): “...And Jakob remained alone; and A MAN WRESTLED WITH HIM till the morning ascended. And he saw that he prevailed not with him, and he touched the hollow{2} of his thigh, and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was dislocated{3} in wrestling with him. And he said, Let me go;{4} for the morning ascendeth. And he said, I will not let Thee go, unless Thou bless me. And He said to him, What is thy name? And he said, Jakob. And He said, Thy name shall be no longer Jakob, but Israel; for a prince art thou before the Lord, and with men, and thou hast prevailed. And Jakob asked Him, and said, Show me now Thy Name! And He said, Why dost thou ask My Name? And He blessed him there. AND JAKOB CALLED THE NAME OF THE PLACE PENIEL: BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THE ANGEL OF THE LORD FACE TO FACE, AND MY SOUL HATH BEEN SAVED! And the sun arose upon him as he passed over Penuel, and he went lame upon his thigh. Therefore the sons of Israel do not eat the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh, unto this day, because He touched the hollow of Jakob's thigh in the sinew that shrank...” - (Genesis 32:24-30; Ch. 32-36, SECTION VIII. VAYISHLACH. Targum Onkelos on Pgs. 108-119 “The Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan Ben Uzziel, On the Pentateuch With The Fragments of the Jerusalem Targum From the Chaldee,” by J. W. Etheridge, M.A., First Published 1862.) [FOOTNOTE 2]: Or, “the palm.” [FOOTNOTE 3]: Or, “moved.” [FOOTNOTE 4]: “Send me away.” ARAMAIC TARGUM (circa. 100 B.C.-1000 C.E.): “...And Jakob remained alone beyond the Jubeka; and AN ANGEL CONTENDED WITH HIM IN THE LIKENESS OF A MAN. And he said, Hast thou not promised to give the tenth of all that is thine? And, behold, thou hast ten sons and one daughter: nevertheless thou hast not tithed them. Immediately he set apart the four firstborn of the four mothers, and there remained eight. And he began to number from Shimeon, and Levi came up for the tenth. MICHAEL ANSWERED AND SAID, Lord of the world is Thy lot. And on account of these things HE (MICHAEL) REMAINED FROM GOD at the torrent till the column of the morning was ascending. And he saw that he had not power to hurt him, and he touched the hollow of his thigh, and the hollow of Jakob's thigh was distorted in his contending with him. And he said, Let me go, for the column of the morning ascendeth; and the hour cometh WHEN THE ANGELS ON HIGH OFFER PRAISE TO THE LORD OF THE WORLD: AND I AM ONE OF THE ANGELS OF PRAISE, but from the day that the world was created my time to praise hath not come until now. And he said, I will not let thee go, until thou bless me. [[JERUSALEM: “...And the hollow of Jakob's thigh was displaced in contending with him. And he said, Send me away, for the column of the dawn ariseth, and, behold, THE HOUR COMETH FOR THE ANGELS TO PRAISE. And he said, I will not release thee until thou bless me...”]] And he said, What is thy name? He answered, Jakob. And he said, Thy name shall be no more called Jakob but Israel, because thou art magnified WITH THE ANGELS OF THE LORD AND WITH THE MIGHTY, AND THOU HAST PREVAILED WITH THEM. And Jakob asked and said, Show me now thy name. And he said, Why dost thou ask for my name? And he blessed Jakob there. AND JAKOB CALLED THE NAME OF THE PLACE PENIEL; FOR HE SAID, I HAVE SEEN THE ANGELS OF THE LORD FACE TO FACE, AND MY SOUL IS SAVED. And the sun rose upon him before his time, (the sun) which on his account had set before his time, on his going out from Beersheba, as he crossed over Peniel. And he began to journey, and was lame upon his thigh. Therefore the sons of Israel eat not the sinew which shrank, which is in the hollow of the thigh of cattle and of wild animals, until this day; because THE ANGEL touched and laid hold of the hollow of the right thigh of Jakob, in the place of the sinew which shrank...” - (Genesis 32:24-30; SECTION VIII. Vayishlach, Targum of Palestine/Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, on Pgs. 270-285 “The Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan Ben Uzziel, On the Pentateuch With The Fragments of the Jerusalem Targum From the Chaldee,” by J. W. Etheridge, M.A., First Published 1862.)

[@rosscullen3992]

@@thambone30 Wow. Heavy Stuff mate and really ancient. I think the group I attended post pandemic must have gotten from that Aramaic Article because I heard they have very old men who hides some sacred books from ancient periods.

[@cedmanstrong]

although there is no historical evidence that a jesus of the cross ever existed.

[@Bunfire123]

Really?

[@marcmarc8524]

Wrong. Jesus’ death is historically proved. So he should have lived before dying.

[@gothamknight2700]

There's non-biblical sources that speak of Christ Jesus, His Atonement and much more. www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources Check your presuppositions before responding.

[@user-tx7cj9hu4h]

CED are you stupid or stupid? There’s too much evidence and that’s where the lies lie

[@suzylux]

What I find really interesting is that nothing was written about Jesus during his lifetime--only decades later. All that drama; the crucifixion and the resurrection (!!) all the disruption in Rome from this wild guy 'Jesus of Nazareth'.....nothing was written about him while he lived. I think to find the origins of a 'jesus' or, really, 'Christ/Christos' you have to dig deeper and go all the way back to Egypt, all the way back to Mesopotamia and the old gods. The message, and whatever truly happened, I think it all just got misunderstood and reinterpreted (with A LOT of things being made up along the way, especially in the Middle Ages) again & again & again, through every historical era, all the way up to today.

[@marcorolo4726]

Ebionites makes more logical sense than the bizarre and weird trinity doctrine some still think is real. Ebonites are definitely closer to the truth. By miles

[@messianicagejudaism]

here it is the Hebrew Messiah explained @

[@rosscullen3992]

@TheComingKingdomOfYahweh No. I gave you the statement and conditions. You research the stone facts. You are so lazy watching sports TV all your life. You want me to do your research for you. You are fishing from others. You know nothing yet when you comment sound like you are at a high spiritual level.