The Untold Truth About David's Death | Cyberpunk: Edgerunners Ending Theory

[@jsmith6599]

5 stages of grief: 1. Denial 2. Anger 3. Bargaining < you are here 4. Despair 5. Acceptance

[@meli-kt7xy]

is this from rookies ?

[@Kompoteek]

And I don't want to leave

[@Mr_Miner_102]

I’m in the first 4 at the same time

[@GreaterSlimey]

4 is actually depression- but idk if you're just censoring that or don't actually know. If you're censoring it, you're a fucking pussy for not saying it.

[@GreaterSlimey]

@user-kd4xj8bo4m if one does come, it’ll probably be a whole different crew of people.

[@wyllefps]

I love how the community just can't accept that the fact is David is dead and the story has ended

[@bumperjumper]

welcome :)

[@mrmarciniak9992]

stage 1: denial

[@pracitus]

Idk if it's that or if some are milking the popularity of the show to get some attention and subs.

[@franciscoOrellana29]

@@pracitus what can you do, this is how youtube function

[@mohamedshabin9176]

Same bro we live for there love stories and triangles

[@Jramssy]

It’s amazing that a month later people still can’t cope with David’s explosive journey. Shows how incredible this story was.

[@EveBatStudios]

Everyone is so hung up on this crew, and so am I but I hope trigger recognizes the potential here to keep bringing fresh perspectives. They could keep adding and adding for quite a while relating familiar locations in the game world to new exciting meaning. Even more so with the passage of time.

[@AltbinariesPPK]

I really really hope he is dead, he deserves that much after what he went through and besides if arasaka has him he would definitely prefer death, and if hypothetically Lucy found out that he was captured she would definitely try to break him out and either die in the process or be forced to put him out of his misery as he has lost all self-control and is basically a machine controlled by arasaka

[@weirdhungidas8998]

that’s pretty good wording

[@scapegoat224]

WE JUST NEEED MOOOOOREEEE CHOOOM

[@descendentcross4105]

Hanabi baby, it only blows up once in a moment

[@travishawkins1493]

Anyone else gonna mention he straight up says "Adam Sandler" at 3:50?

[@DJReflect]

a few times in the video actually.

[@danryan7718]

I was coming here just to type this

[@m4xfl4xst4r]

nah.

[@CoffeeMadeMeSay]

Made me laugh in a public bathroom

[@matthewtorres8860]

Yeah I heard it too!

[@DIRTYPRODiGY]

Adam Sandler definitely played out big in episode 10. Mad respect for the much needed cameo!

[@Kirusion]

When I heard that my mind skipped, but then again I could see him in this playing a street vendor or something :D

[@lucasthebigl]

Oh so im not thr only calling him Adam Sandler. Noice

[@blakejames9743]

@@Kirusion "My mama said dis is Real Water! Now that's some high quality H20!"

[@Frac.Razoer]

What

[@EnclaveHater07]

@@Frac.Razoer Adam Sandler = Adam Smasher

[@impartialthrone2097]

Just binged the show. I think it might be best that David actually died. With the way he was going, I think his story ended the best way it could. He saved the girl he loves, and she saved him from Cyberpsychosis long enough that he could die human, with a smile on his face, and knowing she'd be safe. There was no way he would've lasted much longer even with Lucy's intervention, and he would've only ended up hurting those around him. Instead he died a legend.

[@jackthorton10]

Only in Night City after all.. very few get the opportunity to leave the hellscape… alive

[@nier-raven]

@@jackthorton10 and very few get to die with a smile on their face

[@jackthorton10]

@@nier-raven City of Dreams am I right?

[@iangathogo9750]

Might have died a legend having played the game what smasher told David at the end changes things

[@MTEditz]

@@iangathogo9750 What smasher said doesn't change anything. You're selectively remembering only part of the conversation lol. Smasher said he had fun and David would make an "interesting" construct. David says he doesn't give a fuck and Smasher chuckles and then says the part you forgot about, that thats too bad and puts the gun to his head. If smasher would want David as a construct then he wouldn't aim for head. We see what happens when V gets shot in the head in the game. Plus, David being a construct would serve Arasaka in no way. They were only interested in his high tolerance for military grade tech. Outside of his high tolerance, his construct would serve no purpose. He's still just a teenager lmfao. Smasher saying he'd be an "interesting" construct would be for pure entertainment purposes because again, David is a hot head teenager that's ready to flatline whoever is in his way. He would be nothing but an entertaining sub conscious. Now lets say smasher did let him live. David had no time left before the cyberpsychosis was going to take over fully, and after smasher beat the ever living hell out of him he would need more implants than he had before to be functioning and alive which would worsen the condition even further. He would literally need those injections from the military tech non stop. There's literally no way around David dying

[@AndreBrah]

I just wanna see more Becca, she's so sweet to David, poor little soul, she never got what she deserves

[@DeadEarthTheory]

Becca was NASTY. Being thirsty ain’t the same as being sweet 😂

[@mikeb5063]

@@DeadEarthTheory You can be thirsty and sweet, like a cactus

[@AndreBrah]

@@DeadEarthTheory clearly we have different visions of nasty

[@alexsalas6480]

@@DeadEarthTheory becca was thirsty in the beginning yes but u can see that she genuinely cared for david and his safety. She put her life on the line everytime n she eventually suffered fatally

[@ullenlaishram]

@@DeadEarthTheory Yeah you don't know what character development means even if it hits you in the face.

[@BlackGulchSaloon]

Adam Sandler "CHROME IS BETTER THAN FLESH YOU'LL SEE!" all while making that ridiculous face he does lmao

[@ZeusEBoy]

It’s true I watched click

[@DannyProton]

3:50 adam sandler was my favorite part of this series. when he walked up to david and said "it's adaming time!" and sandler'd all over him. truly the pinnacle of entertainment

[@bumperjumper]

😂

[@bsgmmutual]

He name dropped sandler 70 times 😂😂

[@haystackbill6187]

@@bsgmmutual Speak his name 3 times in the mirror and he shall appear

[@JackThePsychoManiac]

Bro shut up lmfao

[@qhavity]

IT ISNT A JOKE FUCK YOU

[@-.OVERLORD.-]

Its hard to agree but the sad ending fits this anime perfectly This ending gave the anime a true meaning

[@bumperjumper]

Is there any way you could see season 2 working while not ruining the ending of season 1 for you?

[@froilanflorentino1252]

@@bumperjumper Honestly? None. However, they could make routes like the Fate series, prequel series compilation about the four Corporate Wars, and around The Seven Nomad Nations. I just don't want CDPR to milk Edgerunners too far for thirsty fans that'd puke it out if it doesn't live up to it's predecessor.

[@bumperjumper]

@@froilanflorentino1252 yeah I hadn’t even thought about diving into the corporate wars or epic events like those in the past. The Roche Bartmoss story would also be extremely interesting to see

[@Alispun2003]

Was thinking the same bro

[@rosshaikenleonen1416]

@@bumperjumper If they make a season 2 of "oh hey, you know david?" he's still alive btw". That'd be the worst possible season 2. Like it just invalidated Season 1. There are a few anime that took this route and guess what happened to the rating? Plummet down. Not exactly like this but Fairytail is an example. A lot of people stopped watching it when they were baiting about 4x of Makarov dying, and finally, they killed him off.

[@mexamrc]

Actually no, David did not leave his jacket back in the truck when he put on the cyberskeleton. When Falco grabs Lucy to escape he mentions they already have the money, it then shows the credit coming out of David's jacket that they have. So it makes sense as to why Falco would have it and then give it to V.

[@bumperjumper]

Yes, that’s where falco grabbed it and took it with him. We see David take off his jacket and leave it in the cyberskeleton truck. David goes ham on the Millitech fleet and the episode ends with him telling Rebecca and falco that everyone gets a fair slice. The next episode begins with all 3 of them driving in their getaway car, meaning falco took it from the cyberskeleton truck and into the crew’s car like we saw at the end of the show

[@NJOOSHY]

@@bumperjumper but according to your video you said david left it on that dessert

[@deinpxdoxd8490]

@@NJOOSHY In the anime it got caught by the wind

[@LiveBattlesYT]

have yall never watched anime its what always happens yet never gets caught it's him taking it off its what always happens in anime come on@@deinpxdoxd8490

[@viralinfluenza_]

@@bumperjumper you say one thing in the video and then backtrack your words on YT comments. Stop caping

[@FordMustangCaliforniaSpecial]

David is possibly iced underneath arasaka, IE because he’s built different, he’s the only one of HIM. So they could have him inside the freezer

[@craftmaster300]

"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". As much as I would love a second season, ending the story where it is now is best. It makes the hits harder and the message stronger. My biggest fear of a season two is if they messed it up, than their reputation and the godlike admiration of the IP would die.

[@OriginalDjsGaming]

if a new season is made let it be a total different story...like the ripper said.."ANOTHER TALE FOR THE NEXT DREAMER"

[@blacknoir606]

@@OriginalDjsGamingI love the idea of each season being a new story with new characters

[@Jaywesterlow]

In my opinion, the optimal approach for the major production companies behind this show to maximize their profits, without jeopardizing the integrity of the first season (because, let's face it, many shows have suffered due to corporate greed and ill-conceived sequels), is to create an anthology series featuring an entirely different cast and crew. Ideally, they should strive to maintain the exceptional character development that we witnessed in the initial season. Perhaps they could include a cameo appearance from Falco, a character well-suited for such a role, given his relatively limited presence in the first season. This cameo could serve as a smooth transition to reintroduce Lucy in the second season, albeit with minimal screen time, ensuring it creates the impression of a cameo, without overshadowing the season's cliffhanger. Towards the season's conclusion, they would introduce David Smasher, leaving us with cliffhanger for season three. Lucy's brief reintroduction as a cameo, despite her substantial role later on, is to prevent us from prematurely deducing the finale, i.e. David's return, if she were to have an extended amount of screen time.

[@craftedteens]

@@Jaywesterlowwho let bro cook 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 we aint makin it out the writers room with this one 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵

[@pinutpants]

Season 2 with whole new story. And then just to fuck with us have David be a boss. They just use his body now.

[@anthonyallen807]

David has impacted the community with his actions and presence that they won’t admit he’s dead. What a legend

[@Hshdjdjdhd]

noo we need more Lucy and David :C

[@BloodmoonPyke]

Think its just human nature. We hate to be sad and Edgerunners ending was sad as fuck. We like happy ends.

[@darkhobo]

​@@BloodmoonPykethe only happy endings in night city you get from Joytoys.

[@tumultoustortellini]

@@Hshdjdjdhd *Becca and David

[@ethosterros9430]

I hate that he threw away his life for her

[@mixgaming2625]

the thought that we cannot accept David's death only shows us how we are attached to him as well.

[@Unicr0n_]

it could be like johnny his soul still there but not his body

[@KushiLungs]

@@Unicr0n_ You mean he becomes a relic through soulkiller? Johnny was the first and only soulkiller to exist until Saburo Arasaka took over Yorinobu's body.

[@Frozd]

Knowing how much this anime hurt me when watching it the first time, seeing brainwashed David kill Lucy (and probably realize his mistake after) would just break me even more.

[@amneenja5720]

i love the ending in the end arasaka... doesnt lose much. Adam Smasher took care of it. David's intimate, personal goals of making sure Lucy goes to the moon, "getting to the top of Arasaka" for his mom, and dying a legend for Maine are all achieved. He loves them, and to have done them right is exactly what he wanted. Maybe he made a dent, but overall, corpos gonna corpo like they always do. He didn't end it all, he didn't change the world like the usual anime MC does. It reflects the bitter cynicism underlying life in the future. Yet in achieving his personal, intimate goals, he dies happy. That's something no one else could achieve, because it would meaning nothing to anyone except him. It's a deeply a personal ending that's so small to anyone else, but perfect for David. That's doing good by David, one hell of a character. That's fuckign good writing to me dude. bit emotional cus i just finished the show lol

[@jitakiran6552]

You've said it all so beautifully🥺

[@Tracker947]

He didn't just make it to the top, he did it the right way. He kept his humanity.

[@aliteralfart3819]

10/10 comment tbh

[@picallo1]

He also earned a little respect from the main man himself. Stating "You might make a good construct"

[@elevationn..mindsett]

But bro today i finished CB Ending didn't satisfied bro 😢😢

[@lakatosjuraj]

if edgerunners continues i would think they make a different story, about a different set of characters. A differnt legendary Solo like Morgan Blackhand or Wayland Boa Boa or someone else who has a drink named after him. And as much as i liked this crew, i think it would make sense. There are so many interesting stories they could tell. Like Johnny Silverhands time in the Army, how he became to despise the corpo world so much to the point to blow a nuke in night city, Or some story revolving around other fixers - the story of the war between the woodoo boys and Dex. The options are limitless and i feel like CDPR is better of showing off and expanding the lore than to continue a closed story. They need to build up the franchise and the World of Cyberpunk is full of sad sad stories.

[@bumperjumper]

Those are all amazing ideas. Man I really hope they choose to continue making anime and not just funnel everything into the game

[@zanderrobson6512]

Build up the franchise is a great idea how many people started playing BC of the show gives me hope for orion

[@animestudier5356]

I figure if there's a season 2, it would be a what if David answered Arasaka instead of meeting Lucy on the train

[@zanderrobson6512]

@@animestudier5356 oooo shit tense lmao twist ending

[@maniachuntman77]

They already confirmed that their never was a plan for second season and still isnt. So we’re not getting another season. Someone already made a video on it

[@bigboar0074]

The story’s ending is heart breaking and beautiful. It doesn’t need to be continued. Maybe only for Lucy

[@beast7573]

Lucy’s story also already kinda came to an end it was discussed earlier in the series it was a one way trip to the moon she can’t return

[@Emogamer-tp8vo]

BLASPHEMY. IT MUST CONTINUE. IT CAN'T END LIKE THAT. MAKE LUCY EVEN HAPPIER BY HAVING DAVID ALIVE ON THE MOON SO THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES TOGETHER. I'LL ALLOW THIS NON CANNON BECOMING CANNON.

[@bigboar0074]

@@Emogamer-tp8vo we have all been through this

[@hiimdarius]

@@Emogamer-tp8vo i has ended brother just smile at those memories.

[@Emogamer-tp8vo]

@@hiimdarius my heart can't take this damage 😭

[@jimmkekw]

it’s also important to mention that there is an entry for david, maine and becca at the nc memorial. there are a lot of entries for important dead characters like jackie. i think everyone should check it out

[@Baldeagle-tw2nv]

I think Smasher intentionally shot David in the head to ensure he wouldn't become like Smasher. It's was completely altruistic as Smasher didn't want competition being the top attack dog in Ariasaka, but he was also honoring David's last wish in a way. Smasher knew David was on the brink of cyberpsycosis and didn't want to go out that way, so Smasher made sure David went out human with a bang. People seem to overlook that Smasher actually respected David for what he did to rescue Lucy if you manage to hear the, dialouge through the fighting. Smasher is a cold blooded killing psychopath, but if you manage to earn his respect fighting him and you're about to die, he'll make sure you die in a manner to where Ariasaka can't desecrate your corpse. Silverhand was the exception because Smacher couldn't kill Johnny due to the attack from Shaitan.

[@christianpeterson588]

That doesn't make sense for smasher. He wouldn't have given a crap about what David wanted or honoring his wishes. Smasher is notorious for thinking humanities future is in full borg conversions and only thinks as non borg's as meet. He's also someone who tries to kill as many innocent people as possible on every mission. He could care less about what David wants. When he says oh well and shoots David I think he didn't care either way and he'd had probably shot him no matter what his answer was unless Arisaka instructed otherwise. Smasher didn't find a kindred soul in David and want to respect his wishes that wouldn't make any sense for his character. I also think even if David lived CD projekt made it pretty clear this wont be getting a sequel. They said they may make other anime's in the Cyberpunk universe but this story is finished. Which in my opinion is a good things. This story doesn't need to continue.

[@Khobai]

sorry but adam smasher is not that deep or profound of a character at all. he killed david because he was ordered to. there is no other reason.

[@karlosrolero]

@@Khobai Hmmm... I think it's more because it fits the story. TBH, as said, in a world like this Arasaka would have kept David and force him to horrible experiments. But, for David's story its much more fitting that a demented monster like him kills him before becoming a complete monster, specially since he accomplished what he wanted to do.

[@lordolxinator]

If it were any other character, I'd be inclined to agree. But Smasher routinely says throughout his extensive life (nearing 100 years at this point) that he thrives on pain and death. His contract with Arasaka is even conditional that collateral damage is guaranteed. He has a shred of respect for interesting/powerful targets like David, Silverhand, V, or Blackhand. But it's as far as he goes, he finds too much enjoyment in testing his strength and obliterating the enemy. It's why he took great satisfaction in curb-stomping Rebecca and Saul, and why he became distracted fighting David because two potential targets to "massacre" (Lucy and Falco) were fleeing the fight. That's not to say he's completely off the rails. His contract to Arasaka clearly rivals his bloodlust, given all the toys and experimental tech they provide him with. For Arasaka, he gives up the chance at OHKO'ing David atop Saka Tower with his Sande, instead blowing the element of surprise to save Douglas (the Saka employee the others threw under the bus confronting Faraday). It should be mentioned that Smasher *supposedly* detects V and Jackie within Yorinobu's penthouse (due to a threat detection feature), but lets things play out instead of apprehending/killing them before leaving the room. The theory for this one goes that Smasher is playing Arasaka, detecting the thieves in the room, but allowing them to make an escape so that he can engage them out in public. More of a chase, more collateral damage, and perhaps the thieves will lead him to more enemies (hostile or just of Saka) to obliterate. This would gain Saka's favour and gratitude in recovering an almost lost and irreplaceable Relic (as opposed to just outing them in the penthouse as would be his job), and give him more bargaining power for experimental cyberware (or the green-light for more controversial targets). Either way, in line with the video, this does give Smasher a good motive for faking David's death. He's already had his fun with him, and David is literally defenceless at this point. Giving David up to Saka would not only get him in their best books, but potentially allow for David's crew to attempt a daring heist/battle (for Smasher to let loose and tear up the place) *or* potentially a rival if David were to go rogue/escape with some top-line augments. Smasher has been pretty sour that both Silverhand and Blackhand both kicked the bucket/disappeared so early into his bloodlust, so having David become as much of (if not more of) a threat than them would be appealing to him. The confrontation with V is evidence of this too, as he straddles the line between aggressive death threats in combat, and actually enjoying the fight to the death (only really showing displeasure at Rogue not being present in some endings, and V confusing him with Silverhand's "survival" as Smasher is seconds away from execution. While I still think thematically they intended David to die in that moment (especially with all the death flags etc), I maintain that it's also plausible that it's a fake-out left vague for a number of reasons. Perhaps to let fans speculate and discuss it for years. Maybe to keep it open if they wanted to continue the story, or poignantly implied that he was executed if not.

[@kurookami7953]

This make a lot of sense considering what we do know so far about smashers background and history

[@3loirdsa277]

I think the story of David Martinez was a perfect (cyberpunk) story. They should continue to create new unique character. A corpo is a very good idea.

[@bumperjumper]

I’d love to see night city from the corpo aspect

[@3loirdsa277]

@@bumperjumper totally agree with you. I play as a corpo who broke bad Heisenberg’s style.

[@MTEditz]

EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING! Leave the perfect ending of season 1 alone! Any continuation of it in another season will ruin the emotions and quality that it gave us. Instead, it should be like the video games life path choices. We got the street kid out of David, so there should be 2 more seasons with one covering the corrupt corp side and how involved they are with fixers, gangs, mercs, and holding dirt over each other, and one covering the nomad life and the harsh, fucked up world of the badlands.

[@Holyinductor]

The City is the character so would be nice to see it from diffrent angles to enrich the picture of the city and its people...

[@Hshdjdjdhd]

noo we need more Lucy and David :C

[@bengaming3649]

Well since they announced that Edgerunners was always supposed to be a stand alone work rather than something with a planned, anticipated or otherwise left open to a continuation, I am pretty sure it is safe to conclude it was intended for him to be dead and in fact dead. On the other hand, I for one would absolutely love an unplanned 2nd season where Lucy finds out David isn't dead, rather just imprisoned by Arasaka and used as a test subject, and the story is her putting together a team to save him. Cyberpunk isn't about happy endings but I know myself, I really, really, REALLY want to see that happy ending for Lucy and David no matter what Trigger and CDPR has to do to make it happen.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah and honestly Lucy and David both going down but bringing Arasaka down with them in a blaze of glory could also be an impressive compromise

[@Galaxywolf-qj6ci]

were on the same page i hade that same idea

[@twelveseal3217]

It would be a fun take, sure, but Arasaka has some pretty thick plot armor, especially if canonicity between Edgerunners and 2077 are maintained. Trigger left some good plot hooks to work with (such as continued interest in the Old Net, the Cyberskeleton project likely still being on the table, and the mysterious corpo heir in the car), odd circumstances (like Lucy and Falco managing to escape at all, let alone Lucy getting to the moon, or why Falco has David's jacket and not her), and at least two major characters that might have cheated death, as well as a way to bring a third back (sort of). There's potential, sure. I just don't feel it's likely, as much as it would be great to see another season or two. =/

[@bootrfangers]

@@twelveseal3217 I know this will sound like copium but if their story were to continue i would have to imagine rebecca coming back. She took a hefty blow but the tech is there to save her if she had the premium package. which i could totally imagine David would have paid for. It doesn't make any sense that he leaves so much with falco and lucy but not rebecca who he asked to most of during the end.

[@suki-artsanimations807]

If they did do a season 2 with David somehow still being alive it should either have a VERY depressing story with an happy ending or an sad ending like before. Honestly instead of being imprisoned seeing how Adam complimented him (and for some reason spare him if they bring him back) to be a good model, they could be use him as a weapon and would be more unique.

[@PaganPolska]

Sorry to ruin your hopes but Adam Smasher isn't the type to spare people's lives. He's borderline cyberpsycho. The dude loves killing and doesn't know the meaning of mercy. He's been that way since he was a kid. His whole job at that point was to take people out and he was really good at it. He was bassicly Arisaka's angel of death. If somebody was a major threat and needed to be dealt with quick and easy they would send in Adam Smasher. So in other words there's no way David would have survived that encounter.

[@jethrodark2372]

While I agree with you, Arasaka could have ordered him to take him to make him a construct anyway. I personally believe he did die, but no one can really prove either or. Honestly Adam must have respected and liked David on some LVL. The fact that Adam went ez on him and tried to spare him shows alot of respect/admiration which Adam isn't known for. The fact David got that from Adam is a feat few if any can pull off. Edit: Also most of the time these off screen deaths like this are put in as a just incase they wanna bring a character back.

[@quadeforrestal4320]

He spared silverhand, at least long enough to be hit with soul killer.

[@paytonturnbaugh7955]

Gotta remember tho Adam smasher doesn't call the shots in arasaka

[@mmfreshmeat2860]

I disagree somewhat. He asked david if he wanted to become a construct like him, but then breathed a sigh of relief when David refused. That's because Adam knows he will be stuck doing corpo work for the rest of eternity.

[@Italiansauseege]

@@quadeforrestal4320yup this right here is why it totally possible.

[@freakmix2045]

I’ve just went to the Columbarium in CP77 and found everyone’s graves including David’s mom’s grave and on David’s it says, “you never took me to the moon but you were there with me” it obviously means Lucy did come back and give everyone their own digital grave with even one for Kiwi saying “you always told me to never trust anyone in NC” even though the moon trip was a one way trip, Lucy still came back so it would be interesting to see what she does after and if she met up with Falco. I would like to at least see a manga of the events and possibly an encounter with V

[@skirata3144]

She didn’t need to come back for that since 1. She could’ve done this before leaving for the moon and 2. Falco could‘ve done it on her behalf.

[@freakmix2045]

@@skirata3144 it wouldn’t make sense for it to be Falco, it would be too personal for her to not do it herself and it said “you didn’t take me to the moon but you were there with me” meaning she had already gone since she felt like he was there with her and then left

[@michael09871]

it wasnt a one way trip they said for one way the price for the ticket but then you double it and they can get a round trip. With the rest of the crew dead the credits were split just with falco and lucy. Enough for her to easily afford a round trip.

[@Crillidan]

​@@skirata3144it's night city. You don't leave night city permanently unless you die. All jokes aside the comment above is true and does indicate she came back for that purpose at the very least. Falco wouldn't have left her messages, he would not have felt right doing that.

[@Blueline1221]

where is beccas grave?

[@maazypaaz]

I think it’s a great story where it was about the journey and not the destination. David’s lifestyle choices were carefree, but not sustainable for long term. I like that the show indicates his consequences for going into this mercenary lifestyle that would eventually catch up to him. It makes the story feel that much more weighted and realistic

[@bumperjumper]

Yes, I highly respect when creators take a beautifully bleak approach as opposed to a cookie cutter unrealistically happy ending approach

[@LifeEnemy]

It's a good point about Arasaka wanting to preserve David in some way, makes a lot of sense! But I would be wary of any season 2 that follows "actually-he's-alive" David. Seems like it would be very difficult to do without cheapening season 1, which was clearly written as a standalone story.

[@twinodoom]

Being kept alive by Arasaka is often a fate worse than death.

[@energyboy5696]

I would love to see a clone of him for his body but with no mind and another relic with his mind in it. Seeing Arasaka turn him into a weapon not unlike Adam Smasher

[@jhonbards2218]

Or they could do it the code geas resurrection way and make an alternate universe where David is revived or something.

[@Flowerlytdm]

@@twinodoom like in wolfenstein the new order with Wyatt or ( the other guy forgot his name)

[@localchoom]

Yeah if Arasaka built an entire storage facility to house the constructs of those who have been subjected to soulkiller for less than what david did I imagine I can absolutely see a season 2 where someone stumbles upon an engram of David.

[@7errFN]

Love how this vdeo was made a yr ago but the creator still reacts to comments

[@bumperjumper]

:) i love this show and appreciate my viewers

[@7errFN]

@@bumperjumper W

[@inquisitor_snake]

The thing is, the whole point of the ending and the fact that David dies is that everyone thinks they're special. David thought he was special. He thought he could handle what everyone else couldn't. But we are all human. We all have limits and I think that was the point of the ending. If he had survived and lived happily with lucy, it would reinforce his idea that he is special. But he's not. David is dead. The story has ended

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I like how Adam Smasher tells David that he’s special instead of him but ends up being the farthest thing from “special” afterwards when V gets to that point in the game

[@brainblessed5814]

​@@notproductiveproductions3504 yeah with edgerunners as a context, the underwhelming boss battle against adam looks like it was intended to be that way.

[@porshafagan6398]

Wrong we never heard a Nor seen anything from smasher killing David he's probably being kept as a lab rat

[@4orGOD]

David was very special, he just chose the wrong path combined with all the consequences of that certain path, it all pushed him to the edge, hence it’s called edge runners. David is very special character. Edge runners was one of my favorite mini-limited series’ of all time!!! I’m glad he knew he was special, If only he chose the right path, GOD like the necklace he wears.

[@inquisitor_snake]

@@4orGOD then you completely missed the point of cyberpunk edgerunners. David was never special. He just thought he was

[@thesadboi8421]

if they do more of edgerunners they should make each season its own story like maybe more of adam before he went full borg

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah Adam’s story would make for a great second season. Like how he got so f’d up

[@alanjervis9022]

Small problem there is that the only way to do his backstory justice as far as explaining why Adam is so feared would go beyond the limits of the MA rating. The reason that Arasaka rebuilt him instead of simply letting him die was because of his eagerness to do the sort of depraved things that nobody with a shred of morality would do.

[@brittlespy9083]

oooo i like that idea

[@rushpatriot2866]

@@alanjervis9022 Not really it'd be just as gorey as the first season. By your logic the first season should've already broke the guidelines but it didn't so unless you have something backing up that logic I don't really see the point

[@dvsxavier]

David became a legend. He kept his promises to his mom and Lucy. He fought Adam Smasher on top of Arasaka Towers and got Lucy to the moon.

[@TerryEllis1620]

Did you just call smasher, Adam Sandler?😂 0:20

[@GodzOGz]

Yes… yes he did

[@Berryturtle1]

It’s cause these videos are highly created by AI.

[@dannycargile2998]

Lmfao 🎉

[@GeriUrzejh]

He does it in more than one video

[@r8man26]

Considering that it was meant to be a single season, I don't think they considered that it would be a huge hit. They might change their minds in the future about season 2 or sequel, but it might take some time before we hear anything, but it's not impossible considering it was really well received and essentially revived the game. Just needs a lot of planning and the fact that CDPR is happy with the results, we probably will see another season or sequel.

[@IANDURBECK]

I think david's death was as clear as it can be. The trope of not showing the protagonist dead, is often to leave their demise more impactful with this exact same feeling of hope, so that we miss him more. David is dead and all of this "mislead" is just to case more feelings. A fantastic show that ended on the tragedy and downfall of a boy. Lets leave it at that. EDIT: At best they would make a new season with new characters

[@bumperjumper]

I’m down for that

[@thefirstoffence9048]

I feel the rivalry path would work. Or even the David smasher. However it would have to be insanely good to do the original story justice

[@metroidcomet1116]

They actually showed his death in the intro, but yeah I agree.

[@JJH_98]

And now a second project is officially confirmed. But its still unknow what will happen. Due to the enormous success of Edgerunners it was basically clear that we will get more. But what we dont know is, if we get our questions answered.

[@araara5956]

To stand face to face even have a small convo with adam smasher himself is a damn legendary moment

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah to get to that point is an accomplishment

[@GlintAbyssStudios]

How about a season of just a back story of Lucy and it’s her telling her son/daughter and towards the end you hear David’s voice calling for them and they’re all in shock

[@b.g.31_58]

Ultimate cope

[@JJH_98]

Damn, would be wild. And then their kid in the end asks "but how come that dad is alive then?" And we see a cut to the door where just in this moment a mysterious figure appears. And Lucy then says: Well, that is a story he will have to tell you. And then boom Cliffhanger Season 3 haha

[@victortineodiaz5117]

I hope it was a simulation 😢 I want more David and Lucy, this show was so amazing

[@can_of_spaghetti]

That's why David's death felt so weird to me when it happend, nothing like the others

[@LiBear]

7:16 David went toe to toe with Adam Sandler LMAO

[@ravenmarine2015]

Netflix announces another Cyberpunk series and this video is once again making rounds, Lets fucking go

[@Kerwell]

Did I just hear you say “Adam Sandler?” Lmfao 0:20

[@Iwasfoundunharmed]

His name is adam sandler in the anime

[@hollyrose9187]

I imagine we could get a season 2 where Rebecca somehow survived, and learned what happened to David. She would be torn up, and believe that she failed him. That would then be a great time to merge the David Smasher idea into it

[@bumperjumper]

I NEED IT

[@hollyrose9187]

@@bumperjumper unfortunately, knowing Netflix, we won't get anything

[@pracitus]

She's dead

[@fakeguccisneakers6620]

She got turned into raspberry jam, she gone fam

[@hollyrose9187]

@@pracitus and? It's just playing around with ideas, like everyone else does

[@qtar1984]

When Smasher brings up the notion of David becoming a construct, David refuses. To which Smasher responds with 'Oh Well' and points his arm cannon at David's head. Then comes the lighting effect on David's face followed by a transition that implies that David has been shot in the head. Adam's comment, at first seemed to be him respecting David's wish to not be Arasaka property. However it's also possible that Adam may have meant that what happened to David was no longer up to him anymore. Meaning that Adam may have simply waited for Arasaka management to copy an Engram of David before killing him.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah I had that same sort of thought before that Adam said ah well as a sort of pity that it was out of his hands. Very well said, thanks for that!

[@twelveseal3217]

Mhm. It's also possible he was ordered to keep David alive if he refused. Davey boy has a history of spurting blood from his face when overextended, after all.

[@Nnneemo]

Even shot in head not saving from Arasaka nano-tech reader.

[@qtar1984]

Arasaka may be able to get an incomplete Ingram from the dead, but such a thing lacks consciousness and therefore cannot suffer.

[@twelveseal3217]

@@qtar1984 I was under the impression that all Engrams were like that. Some were just more accurate representations of the original in terms of knowledge and behavior based on the condition of the subject at creation.

[@mysticz_]

I get the anime was supposed to be a standalone but i think if they decide an unplanned season 2, It can be about lucy taking down the whole megacorp in the end and(i might get hate for this) die. Why i said die is because i see it as a happy ending for here as she takes down arasaka which killed David and at the end she meets David in afterlife.

[@zacmeadows2294]

You know what they say in the movies, they're not dead until you see the body. We were shown every other crew members death and body afterwards except Davids. Smasher did also mention turning him into an engram. Legit typed this at 1:58

[@ezwan7656]

We actually see his dead body, we saw him getting his head exploded. I don't think we need anymore evidence for that.

[@riegan947]

Either a engram/AI/Cyborg. Three versions and also if David is going to be like V then I think that David became an engram same as Johnny. The anime could also introduce Blackhand. Or further back like 2030. I think David will be milked some more. Lucy also had very minimal screentime.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah I’d love to see more about Morgan Blackhand. Plus getting closure on Lucy would be nice too

[@frank1987tp]

I agree they can do the same with David as they did with Johnny silverhand since he also got shot by adam ( i told you i will kill you johnny boy said adam ) and the same shot (David getting shot same as Johnny silverhand ) and the camera pops off and you see a splash.... is there as in the Anime and later on you see Johnny getting carried outside on a stretcher.... Adam also said you might be a nice construct so they left it open

[@alanjervis9022]

Morgan Blackhand is Mike Pondsmith's personal character. I don't see anyone except Mike (and thus, R. Talsorian Games) doing anything with him simply out of respect for the man who built Night City. Besides, it seems that Rebecca has become the brand identity.

[@gaget5455]

I think it would be interesting to see them somehow expand on the story of David and possibly Lucy. But at the same time, his death and the ending of the story made sense. In night city, there is no happy ending. At least for the most part. Like Johnny said, “here for folks like us? Wrong city, wrong people.”

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah it all wrapped up in a beautifully sad way, maybe they could do a prequel/cover the time skip/or show the point of view from another character (like Katsuo for example)

[@evan4856]

In a way, that is the happy ending for someone like David in night city. To become a legend and face off with the strongest opponent in night city and possibly the whole world.

[@Dumbsourplum]

Yep, that's why the happiest ending in 2077 is you leaving, no happy endings in night city

[@DDuffy143]

@@Dumbsourplum For real........... What a beautiful ending too... Getting the hell outta Dodge.

[@philman4290]

2 years later and im STILL not off the copium 🗣🗣💨💨

[@HotdogHank25202]

i think keeping David alive for a season 2 would throw off the entire way Night City and Cyberpunk works, even in the original source material, nobody gets a happy ending, you either die a legend or live out the rest of your life depressed or a nobody, a happy ending isnt possible in Night City

[@edadankmemes]

Doesn’t V sorta get a happy ending though in 2077? At least with one of them. It’s definitely more hopeful than Edgerunners, that’s for sure.

[@HotdogHank25202]

@@edadankmemes more bitter sweet than happy but yeah definitely

[@edadankmemes]

V at the very least gets to live their final days with Panam. And considering how finding treatment for cyberpsychosis is a big thing in the cyberpunk universe, I really don’t see why they would waste an asset like David that way.

[@HotdogHank25202]

@@edadankmemes not really, there's no point in arasaka having 2 Adam Smashers and one being significantly worse at fighting, plus they wouldn't really be able to control him as his only motivation is a girl who currently thinks he's dead and had moved to the moon

[@koolfunnykat]

Just the whole structure of the show infatuated me. I'm heartbroken with the loss of David, but I think I'm even more-so with the possible loss of the style Edgerunners has showcased. I really hope Trigger will keep telling more cyberpunk stories. They definitely won my vote and attention.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah it’s such a marvelous show. It’s one of the shows that makes me really glad I was born in this era

[@everlastingphelps]

@5:55 Like Father Like Son -- add in my own theory, that Maine was actually David's father, which is why he had a connection to Gloria and took her death so hard, and immediately started providing work for David and let him keep the Sande when he found out.

[@Wackstunn]

I'd love if each season was about a different legend of night city, and I think Morgan Blackhand would be the perfect candidate for a season 2.

[@Crillidan]

Blackhand or Bartmoss definitely

[@KBgamer2010]

If they continue Edgerunners, I could definitely see every legend play out their lives, perhaps even see the ones who have encountered Adam Smasher

[@changoelchango]

Maybe even have a bit of V's story, but i think thatd make for a great movie instead. Imagine a well done live adaptation of cyberpunk 2077

[@Drkwolf31B]

If a guy dies in the woods and no one sees it except his gf, guess he's still alive. This is dumb.

[@tusbehim]

People seem to forget that Smasher said “you know, you would make a good construct” and David said “like I give a shit”, so he didn’t want to become like Smasher. That was David’s chance to live on, but going on wasn’t for him.

[@rockdem0n]

There's the possibility he met the same fate as Johnny Silverhand. It could even be Johnny's misremembering of his fight with Smasher, assuming the TTRPG and related books are still canon, is tied to David's actual fight with Smasher.

[@adamg4336]

There's no need for a season 2 David's story has ended Not everything needs a continuation because you enjoyed it a lot

[@illegalfoodz8402]

This! Edgerunners gave us a story from a street kids perspective. There are still so many others they can focus on. Nomads, mox, corpos, valentinos, maxtac, ncpd, heck ever ripper docs. Let David's story be one and done.

[@goldengore5442]

NOOO

[@alanjervis9022]

Nice to see someone understands the genre. What's more punk that defying the norm of happy endings and other such conformist tropes?

[@illegalfoodz8402]

@@alanjervis9022 and why do people want to deny David a legendary death so badly.

[@alanjervis9022]

@@illegalfoodz8402 I'd be cool with denying David that distinction if they would honor the truly legendary badass; Rebecca.

[@aidan4022]

We still just need season 2 fam 😭

[@mdc8889]

they could do different storytelling based off the life paths you can choose in game, david would be streetkid, new characters for corpo and if it comes about i really wanna see a nomad season

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah I wonder what the nomad season would look like

[@illegalfoodz8402]

This is what I'm thinking to. Expand the world with different stories instead of continuing with the same thing.

[@A_R_G_O]

if david really became a construct prisoner of arasaka that means they stored him in mikoshi and probably been taken by alt in the game ending. we never know

[@jgb1311]

I saw a theory about David on a simulation, I was about to comment "copium" but I actually find the theory more reasonable as they explained it. Btw nice video!!

[@bumperjumper]

Thanks I really appreciate it!! The simulation theory is one of the ones I find the most fascinating

[@rmc_hyde]

Just imagine by the end of that whole simulation what David might wake up to. The crew is in the middle of a big heist or some kind of huge firefight to save him.

[@pracitus]

You don't get that he has a drink in the Afterlife and the events are referenced ingame...

[@bumperjumper]

@@rmc_hyde that’d be one heck of a banger of a first episode

[@twelveseal3217]

Idk... the perspective jumps around quite a bit for it to be a BD or simulation with David as the audience. It would befit the genre and the Philip K. Dick references in the series name (and Rebecca's thigh tattoo), but we see things David realistically couldn't. Faraday and the Saka investigators, Lucy's activities out of his sight, Kiwi trying to reassure herself on her backstabbing and shift blame for the sake of a guilty conscience, as well as her running from her pursuers, Becca and Kiwi talking behind David's back, Lucy and Falco escaping... and especially Lucy on the moon. Then there's the fact that Kurosaki should have no ability to replicate anything relating to the Cyberskeleton, a fact mentioned elsewhere in the comments. Simulation, while genre appropriate, seems unlikely imo.

[@kurrupt3d_crayon]

I think it was perfect he fell in love and she showed the same energy back he made her dream come true and she thought of only him for the rest of her days but IF they make season 2 make it be a story were she finds out hes alive but traped and she has to save him and the only way she can is by building a new team and then showing her love for him to save him from his cyber breakdown.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah that would be awesome

[@respectablefellow]

@@bumperjumper nah I think some Stories should just end. If they do season 2 or even 3 about the same characters it will probably ruin the series...its netflix afterall

[@froilanflorentino1252]

You can see the hole in David's skull in the op. 0:52 Copium, there's no way David would let Falco give his mother's jacket to V even more so, let him wear it for the rest of the game. It also make more sense for Falco to recover it from the badlands since no one would pick an interest to a kibble eater jacket. 2:31 It's impossible to turn a headless body into an engram. Braindance is a simulation pov to an already existing memory. Engrams only has fake memories as unintentional side effects, it's not Arasaka's master plan. Even the Nightcorp can only alter a person's preference and erase memories. 4:24 Arasaka would have used him against V after the fight with smasher but they didn't since they couldn't. 5:24 He doesn't have a corpo dad to back him up this time. All he has is reinforced hands, kung fu cyber chip, and a Braindance rig. He still doesn't stand a chance against Lucy even if he chrome up and he's not in the position (An Arasaka family member) to "force" Adam to hunt Lucy to the moon. 6:16 This suicidal act is against what David wished for her, there's no cure but to be an engram yourself. Her being a phenotype means more attention from Arasaka since she can be a vessel for the devil ending V. She survived this long without attention since Arasaka could just aquire another batch of Netrunner children. 7:00 Dignified way of ending it. Last time fans pressured CDPR to release the game, it came out as hot bowl of fried bugs. Sorry but I can only see number 1 as the only possible way for moving forward. It doesn't need to be a season 2 sequel, it can also be a prequel or spin-off. Maybe because one of my favorite webnovel is an Anthology series itself [BRAIN Anthology] from webtoon. I have a good time reading through it.

[@bumperjumper]

A couple points: David would have no say in who gets his jacket since he would be under Arasaka’s control. The last we see of David could be smasher shooting his torso or using the tranquilizer rounds from the game. Lastly, the technology to read and interpret people’s lives already exists inside bds since we see the dolls in the game know everything about you through the technology I think lots of people are worried season 2 might not be executed well but done well it would be an absolute banger

[@froilanflorentino1252]

@@bumperjumper I highly doubt that tranquilizer rounds would spill any blood What I mean regarding BD's is there's need to be existing memory foundation. There's no way they can create a BD of a man wearing the modified Cyberskeleton and rode it with Rebecca and Falco, to the Arasaka tower, fight against Smasher and get blown away since no one experienced that yet aside from David himself later on. Games, Movies, Series Comics, Novels, Manga... Many franchises got ruined by fan catering sequels. If Hiroyuki desired and planned for sequel in mind while creating CE or take at least +4 years then I'm all in for it. For now I'm fine if they decided for anthology series. And hey, if it's a banger, why the hell not?

[@mrboi6897]

💩

[@IIFlive]

@@bumperjumper doubt that as the whole show forshadows his death by showing him in the bds with a shotgun to his head

[@lemao2222]

​@@bumperjumper 1 - The anime does enough for you to understand what happened to David in his final moments without being explicit about it. It's a blood red splash jutting from his forehead. Choosing to go "We didn't explicitly see his brains splattered all over the place, so he didn't die" is denial, plain and simple. And even if they made an engram of David's dead remains, we can see what a dead person's engram looks like in the game. Spoilers: It's not a digital conscience. It's more like a broken record of their final moments. 2 - Adam has no say in who becomes a construct or not. He wasn't even making an offer, he's just lamenting that his fun is over and that it would be entertaining for him if David became a construct (so that Adam could continue massacring him). What you need to understand about Adam Smasher's purpose within Arasaka, is that he isn't deployed when Arasaka wants discretion. Put it this way: While Militech dispatched an entire army to deal with the Cyberskeleton and David's crew, Arasaka has Adam. Neither would've gone to such lenghts if they had any interest in recovering anything from it. 3 - Ah, you fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book: Fortune-telling. let me explain: Look, Braindances are just next-gen movies. They are *not* simulations. When David goes through the cyberpsycho BD in Jimmy Kurosaki's basement, it looks like he killed those cops by accident. In reality, he literally couldn't help doing it, because those are not *his* actions. Those were the actions of the cyberpsycho that recorded it. The "it's all a BD" theory is terrible, because it implies David got replaced in Maine's crew. Someone else took Maine's arm. Someone else took over Maine's crew. Lucy fell in love and moved in someone else's apartment. Rebecca sacrificed her life for someone else. And someone else fulfilled Lucy's dream of going the moon. Either way, the characters people fell in love with and griefed all died or faded into obscurity: It just means none of those people are called David Martinez. Dolls on the other hand are living drones that allow their bodies to be controlled remotely by someone or something. In the case of Clouds, they let what I can assume is a neural network, or "dumb AI", constructed from a psychological profile, control their bodies. Those are not memories. They are a set of instructions based on that profiling. Psychological profiling is nothing new, we've been doing it irl for a while now. It's how the aforementioned fortune-telling and criminal profiling works, albeit in a less advanced way. Now imagine if, instead of submitting someone through tests and interrogations, you could gather that data by simply plugging a usb cable and run some tests directly against a system that contains personal information and monitors vital signs to figure out what makes someone tick? So you see, the dolls at cloud don't know everything about about V. In fact, they don't know much at all. Notice how their statements are vague. It sounds accurate because it aligns with V's current situation. But they never say anything specific about V. They never mention Johnny Silverhand. They never mention V getting headshot and coming back from the dead. They don't even reference your chosen lifepath. It's all leading statements and educated guesses based on the information V gave at the reception desk. And you, the player, fill the gaps all on your own. That's how the trick works. Remember River Ward's questline? How they needed to make the serial killer dream of their childhood in order to record it as a virtu and analyze it? That wouldn't have been necessary if doll technology allowed people to just extract memories straight out of someone's brain, would it? Tl;dr: even in 2077 there's still no virtual reality that is so close to the original, it could fool anybody. BDs don't give you the agency of a sandbox or simulated world, they just allow someone to backseat an experience. VR and AR are still distinguishable enough from real life that only those who lost touch with reality might get lost in it. Even Mikoshi, the state of the art in personality construct, was not a perfect simulacrum: Johnny was quite aware of his status as a construct over the 50 years he spent there. During their first interactions, Johnny mutters to himself that he's just a copy and the real one must be out there somewhere, while V crawls on the floor. CDPR already confirmed they will be expanding the Cyberpunk setting with multiple media formats, so we can expect a second Cyberpunk show or a movie. But it's highly unlikely it will be a direct sequel to Edgerunners, featuring the same characters, save for maaaaybe a few cameos or references.

[@odoylerules360]

Preserving David as a research asset makes the most sense by far for all the characters & corpos involved. It would honestly be weird if they didn't do that. Also, at 0:49, Falco being really cagey about the details of David Martinez is suspicious, and implies that those details are still worth keeping secret, which wouldn't be the case if David was just dead.

[@paulsavchuck6894]

I think, that overall idea is that one person can't change anything, but he can explore a part of way to change the night city, so, even his death would be a light for others. So, yes, night city likely to take you down, but U need to hold on to your wishes, and if there will be more "Davids" suffering his own to other people dreams, they could succeed...

[@Goldblasterblaze]

There is no way Trigger’s gonna put us through this emotional rollercoaster only to say, “it was all a Brain Dance😀!!”

[@PJLPlayz]

This was pretty well made and I like that you put the theories in a insanity order.

[@bumperjumper]

Thanks, and of course!!

[@andrew0037]

man this dude edging us with the ending song you know what im talking about i heard the beat like 5 times for a millisecond

[@KinG-tu7pg]

David Martinez is a beloved character. It be amazing to see him reappear but not as a main character but as easter eggs in game or in future shows hinting that he survived

[@Multi1]

Nice video, I'm more chill and have recovered from the sadnesses of the ending.

[@bumperjumper]

Thanks, and yeah I’ve made peace that David got his happy ending. He took on Arasaka, held off Smasher, saved Lucy and falco, and even gave cyberpsychosis a run for its money. I’m happy with the ending but there’s lots of potential for season 2

[@theeyeofmango]

Ordering a David Martinez in game shouldn't tell you he died fully if you can order a johnny silver hand. Also you as V have to ask them to make a Jackie Wells so it's implied that a member of your crew would announce the death and drink.

[@mendozakarlos]

the way i could accept that david is still alive and not afect the ending form me is that we know as a comment or reference in season 2 that a high value resource (david)was conserved as a construct and white hair girl netrunner recoverit just to disapear, no need to show us just i need to know that they´re together again living far away, i saw the serie for first time 2 days ago and im still broken wishing that david could survived, i just need that info, everý time i hear that song the tears comes out.

[@ginnungagaplemniscates1405]

Pretty sure they announced, like *very* recently, they weren't planning to do another season *at this time*. With that said, as far as David is concerned. I always just assumed they hit him with soulkiller. Dead or not prior, we know they can record engrams from corpses.. However damaged. David was too much of a valuable resource to just kill, and not keep the remains and his engram around.

[@georgimihaylov5432]

I don't think Soulkiller existed 1 year before the events of Cyberpunk 2077.

[@ginnungagaplemniscates1405]

@@georgimihaylov5432 Uh. Soulkiller existed 50 years prior to the current setting of 2077. Hanako Arasaka got her own version going in 2045, it looks like.

[@peshlegen8037]

Since the brain dance guy was so good at making brain dances, and he had a new one that was so powerful who’s to say it wasn’t a brain dance that had immense practicality of predicting the near future through extreme likely possibilities. No, it doesn’t predict the future but through chances it predicts the most likely outcome in turn helping David see what the future held had he not listened to Rebecca to cut the upgrades and things like that. I’d love to see a second season where something similar to that happens if in fact the entire season 1 was a simulation.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah it would open an avenue to so many possibilities for season 2 if they went with the simulation route

[@joshjones9749]

It just keeps coming back to mind that Lucy is still out there and can always come back into play...

[@lukehilton1797]

dudes head got OBLITERATED, "yeah he's still alive"

[@hadiamir3982]

Dude if David actually makes it out alive that would be phenomenal.

[@bumperjumper]

Exactly! What if it was as a construct? What would your thoughts be on that?

[@kodak101]

@@bumperjumper I'm super late to this discussion but this would only work if he was an Arasaka drone completely brain washed. David, as the kid phenom from the streets who had a meteoric rise as an Edgerunner with a strong sense of loyalty to his crew, is dead. His entire goal was to achieve his mom / Maine / Lucy's dreams. He accomplished all of those in a way, especially for Lucy. He accomplished all of his goals (others goals) and did something worthy of having his own drink. David had an arc ending similar to Spike Spiegel- both die with a smile on their face, showing they're content with how it all played out.

[@Frosty89]

Hmmm David as the new Smasher does sound interesting, but if they go that route and Lucy comes to bring him back, I get the feeling that Lucy wouldn't survive at the end.

[@bumperjumper]

That’d be a really sad outcome, but it would fit the themes of Night City.. How do you think an ending where Lucy dies would be received by fans?

[@Frosty89]

@@bumperjumper It would fit this theme exactly, but I don't think it would go over well, especially if David survives and Lucy ends up permanently dead.

[@ken-vd6ye]

WE NEED ITTTT

[@bumperjumper]

How would you want season 2 to play out?

[@ken-vd6ye]

@@bumperjumper any way to stop this depression

[@bumperjumper]

@@ken-vd6ye fair enough! David is too valuable to be thrown away by Arasaka especially when it would’ve been so easy for them to preserve him. There’s lots of hope for David but sadly Rebecca is a tougher sell

[@DRFEAR-fm8gu]

I really don't want to season 2 it ended perfectly. plus depending whatever ending you get in cyberpunk the game. makes this ending feel far more meaningful.

[@bumperjumper]

@@DRFEAR-fm8gu is there any way they could continue season 2 while not ruining the ending of season 2 for you?

[@duggeeo4147]

“Never had a banger like this” Kill la kill:

[@ChibiBlasphem]

Kill la kill is a banger yeah !

[@rocketprime]

David lost an eye, both arms and just about everything below the waistline. Short of uploading his consciousness into a clone body, I don't see how he could come back from that.

[@Frosty89]

Well technically those were actually just implants, so it's possible to survive those loses.

[@paulcummins4134]

I just want david to be alive =( he already went through such a hard life he deserves better.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah my man David deserved much better

[@MemesOfFreedomHere]

broo the 8 is probably the more sensate ending because exactly when he enters the simulation after the death of the dude that creates the death videos of the cyberphyschos he smiles at David, so it's 100% simulation

[@trevorgrigg4968]

anyone else hear adam sandler at 3:55

[@rowin1387]

Yup😅😅

[@coryy9745]

Yup

[@VideoCesar07]

I like the idea of an anthology series that explores the good, the bad and the very ugly side of life in Night City. As much as I liked EdgeRunners and it's bittersweet ending, an arc involving David's son would be interesting but if it takes place before the events of CyberPunk 2077 then it would also be a series where he would likely be doomed to fail, especially if his revenge would be against Adam instead of Arasaka Corp as a whole. If it were to happen afterwards then there is a lot more leeway. . Very much for the idea of a season that shows David's and the team's growth between Eps 6 - 7. The idea that it was a braindance edit and he was still in the lab being tortured could offer some possibilities as long as they don't ret-con things.

[@Angelmg2703]

If they don’t make season 2 I’m gonna have a breakdown breakdown 😭

[@suislide59]

they have said there will be no season 2

[@imcrazygnomie6642]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere where they actually talk about the possibilities of a second season, and without going into it too much it was basically said that if there is a second season it most likely wouldn't have anything to do with David. It would be cool if they actually did a continuation, but I'm leaning more towards another standalone with different characters and plot.

[@bumperjumper]

Part of me thinks that they said there wouldn’t be a season 2 to create more hype for a season 2 when they announce it

[@imcrazygnomie6642]

@@bumperjumper Maybe, but at the same time I'm personally the type of person that doesn't get their hopes up for anything. I've been disappointed by so many people and promises that I just don't look forward to literally anything in my life. Like I said though I would love it if a second season came out, though I wouldn't be surprised if they went down a different story path. We had the street kid, David's story. Now we need a Nomad, and a Corpo story.

[@TheKobra86]

What I would well and prefer here is for Cyberpunk to get some kind of storyline where these constructs are a bigger focus in some sort, with David maybe referenced in the smallest degree or maybe some kind of kick in the balls to arasaka with David there in some sense at large.

[@kosmickgoat8789]

2:26 That split second about to make me start tearing up, I really loved Cyberpunk:Edgerunners. Best show ever.

[@cartwe1l]

All i care about is getting the old David back in the ending. Would be great.

[@benjohnson8231]

A thousand times yes. Regardless of what a lot of people say I truly believe there are ways where you can bring a character back without it ALWAYS destroying and making everything previous meaningless.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah that’s why it was so heart wrenching to see younger David on the moon at the end. He deserved better

[@bumperjumper]

@@benjohnson8231 exactly! It just takes some solid writing

[@benjohnson8231]

@@bumperjumper 💯🤝💯

[@pracitus]

@@benjohnson8231 you didn't get the point of the story, there are no happy endings in Night City

[@jovanleonardi1574]

i like the idea that lucy would find out that David is an engram at arasaka and contacts v to help get him out.

[@jinxedjuno]

i adore lucy and i really would love to see her get pulled back into the mix like case in neuromancer was for armitage

[@carlolazerna7897]

a redemption arc for his rival with david guiding him in his head would be a cool twist and a nod to Johnny silverhand in the game

[@ivanparks2387]

I just finished the series at 8.10. The anime is so good it changed me, and my feelings. I was left empty, crying, and sad. The song on episode 2 don’t feel happy after the anime ended. I wish David and Lucy could end up together. The anime made me 2 hours of straight crying. I will never forget this anime , and this will always be in my heart.

[@WIFE_of_CHAOS]

I think itll be awsome if season two will be about maine and the process of him discovering the team, the process of how his cyberpsychosis got worse. We see maine already worse with cyberpsychosis in this season but we didnt see the long term degradation of his mental health before david was in the picture. We also see him in sashas music video. Maine is more of a supporting character, but like rebecca i think itll be kewl to have him as a protagonist this time. plus well get to see Rebecca alive .

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah our time with Maine felt so short sadly :/

[@mrwang420]

A comdey spin of Cyberpunk with Adam Sandler playing the part of Adam Smasher would be hilarious.

[@FetusAnimation]

0:12 adam sandler?

[@erwestrone]

what does this even mean

[@adimadim05]

​@@erwestroneThe producer of the video mistakenly called it Adam Sandler instead of Adam Smasher

[@erwestrone]

@@adimadim05 oh ok

[@mutchie316]

@@adimadim05 not a mistake he calls him that on purpose as a joke, he does it again later in the video. I think it him trying to be funny 😆

[@EJSweaty]

That made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂

[@ixiahj]

The intro suggests he's really dead. From the start it suggested he would die fighting a mega Corp like Arasaka. But because soul killer exists, it doesn't matter if his body is dead.

[@JaM-R2TR4]

Corpo V was Arasaka CounterInteligence... and she/he even mentions David in dialogue... so if David was taken alive, she/he would know about it...

[@Its._.Chaotic]

The splash effect was a contrast to the digital glitch effect to the deaths experienced during the bds, symbolising that this was the real end