The Untold TRUTH About Jonah & The GIANT Sea Monster Is INSANE | MythVision Documentary

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@MythVisionPodcast
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@ManuelPerez-yt1ni
@ManuelPerez-yt1ni 4 ай бұрын
We need textual evidence about this. Where are the ephigrafics evidences?
@Akio-fy7ep
@Akio-fy7ep 4 ай бұрын
Funny how until just this year, I had not thought of Jonah as dying in the fish and then being resurrected to be spit out. (Spit first, or resurrected first? Probably spitting was itself resurrection.) I think as a kid I imagined him camping for three days, and never thought about it since. This seems to be bodily resurrection, unlike what is promised to rapturees, where their incorruptible resurrection bodies are already piled like cordwood in 3rd heaven awaiting the apocalypse. Paul assures us they lack troublesome genitalia; he might be wrong, but it seems like a good idea to check yours before you get in.
@andyhoughtaling6319
@andyhoughtaling6319 4 ай бұрын
HUGE thank you to Derek, Neal, and Ammon for approaching history without bias, even when it conflicted with their religious preconceptions. You are truly warriors of truth, and your value to society is immeasurable. 🙏🙏🙏
@donnadumare
@donnadumare 4 ай бұрын
Some budgets dont stretch far enough to give you the financial support, but dont take it personally, Derek. WeAreMythVision❤
@RadicalCaveman
@RadicalCaveman 4 ай бұрын
Terrific video, Derek!
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain 4 ай бұрын
It's the Moon in Cepheus, the Leviathan, and matches all the other allegories about three days of darkness Astrological allegory
@Cocreatewithus
@Cocreatewithus 4 ай бұрын
It's quite interesting how Greek and Roman etc. mythology is considered as fictional stories, and Hebrew mythology is considered true. They all have unbelievable stories and monsters and gods and themes. What is it that makes the Bible more true than, say, the Iliad? Or conversely, what makes the Iliad less true than the bible?
@davashorb6116
@davashorb6116 4 ай бұрын
"Other people's religions" is a working definition of mythology.
@mohammedmaraee
@mohammedmaraee 4 ай бұрын
I am surprised how humanity survived all this long. We're not clever to say the least.
@NickSandt
@NickSandt 4 ай бұрын
It’s even more interesting when you see that they’re all connected, that Zeus is the devil of the New Testament and the god of the Old Testament!
@michaelguidera1876
@michaelguidera1876 4 ай бұрын
I think its the connection of all the books of the Bible. When you stop spending all your time trying to disprove it and really study the whole bible, you uncover a story that only could have been inspired by a power infinitely greater than any human. It is the way that authors, separated by thousands of years could each write something that so connects with each other, telling a story that demonstrates this plan of the Creator of the universe to first allow free will of His created ones that bring themselves to the brink of extinction, and then through an act of love, provide a solution to reconcile the whole mess back to Himself. The Bible is a book like no other in that you could remove parts of it and still keep the storyline intact. There is no book in existence that is written in this manner. The more you read it in faith the more you understand His plan and the role each of us play in its conclusion. Understanding starts with faith, then grows and grows as one faith grows. It is truly the greatest story ever told.
@Jesuslordoflords-y4m
@Jesuslordoflords-y4m 4 ай бұрын
When you read the Bible and obey the gospel it is obvious the Bible is inspired by God. You just need to humble yourself, repent of your sin and surrender to Christ.
@nylaway7170
@nylaway7170 3 ай бұрын
That Oannes chapter makes me wish Derek has a conversation with Paul Wallis from the 5th Kind channel.
@venuscraig748
@venuscraig748 4 ай бұрын
Bravo Derek! Finally, MVT have got some great researchers, writers, editor, producing excellent quality content. Derek, well done! Please, consider including credits.
@dailydeen114
@dailydeen114 4 ай бұрын
0:00 - 8:57: This sets up the story of Jonah and introduces the concept of sea monsters in various cultures, laying the groundwork for the documentary's comparisons. 8:57 - 11:55: The Perseus and Andromeda story provides a strong parallel to Jonah, particularly with the Jaffa connection. 14:00 - 17:06: Heracles's encounter with the sea monster offers another interesting comparison, emphasizing the three-day motif. 17:54 - 22:18: The segment about Jason and the dragon, especially the vase depiction, directly links to Jonah visually and thematically. 41:15 - 49:09: This section introduces Bruce Louden's work and his insightful analysis of Jonah in relation to The Odyssey, highlighting significant overlaps. 49:09 - 1:09:24: This portion delves deeper into the specific parallels between Jonah and The Odyssey, offering a nuanced understanding of the shared motifs and narrative structures. 1:09:24 - End: The conclusion summarizes the documentary's key points and invites further reflection on the interconnectedness of ancient myths.
@Happynappyroots96
@Happynappyroots96 4 ай бұрын
This is wonderful thank you so much. Very informative and great work👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@christendumb9371
@christendumb9371 4 ай бұрын
If the storm stopped when the men threw jonah to the sea ...does that mean that god excepted a human sacrifice ??
@Misa_Susaki
@Misa_Susaki 4 ай бұрын
Human sacrifice is a huge part of all religions, and Christianity is no exception. Abraham was called to sacrifice Isaac, which was a fortelling of God sacrificing Jesus. Its really cool!
@christendumb9371
@christendumb9371 4 ай бұрын
@@Misa_Susaki even cooler is that abraham went up the mountain with issac but came back down alone ... Also god Told him his blessing was because he had (not withheld his child from him)... His only child and first born.By the way according to the angel of the lord I guess the angel of a lord did not know about ishmael who was born first....??
@Misa_Susaki
@Misa_Susaki 4 ай бұрын
@@christendumb9371 Yeah, there is a lot of deep symbolism and culture in the Bible that most people miss. I love going deep into it.
@mdug7224
@mdug7224 4 ай бұрын
It was a coercion narrative. Jonah expressed his free will not to do Yhwy's bidding. Yhwy tricked Jonah into doing his bidding. He knew the sailors would think Jonah a curse. Really Odin-like😂
@sammishbenseid4385
@sammishbenseid4385 4 ай бұрын
Excellent and highly ditactic video presentation. Sea monsters and leviathans stories never came to life as realy life phenomena stirred by antiquities social imagination of scribes and would be prophets. I highly recommend this type of content. To the point presentation, excellent narrative with highly advanced comparative approach reaching all primary sources under the sun. Without forgetting the best supporting visual paintings and illustrations. Whoever edited the flow of video clips with your narrative is a genius. Keep the great work flowing. Kuddos to mythvision thinker. All the best.
@EnkiHeku
@EnkiHeku 4 ай бұрын
The link between Ea-Oanes, Jonah and Ea/Enki makes me wonder if Jonah and the sea monster may have connections to the Sumerian myth of Enki vs Kur the dragon, who kidnapped Ereshkigal and then she was rescued by Enki.
@decades5643
@decades5643 4 ай бұрын
I read an article by the scholar of Judaism Shalom M. Paul that compared Jonah in the fish/sea with Inanna/Ishtar's journey to the underworld. The sea was believed to lead to the underworld and both myths have the 3 days 3 nights motif.
@kingofmphs
@kingofmphs 4 ай бұрын
Jonah and Whale along with Noah’s Ark lead me to being an atheist.
@trevanhatch8717
@trevanhatch8717 4 ай бұрын
Well, the stories aren’t meant to be historical. Even the author Jonah knew this. The text is objectively satire. Not sure what atheism has to do with ancient myth.
@BenjaminExequielReyesGaete
@BenjaminExequielReyesGaete 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand your argument, I mean it's okey if your atheist I'm not the one heading hell, but please state your truly reasons for leaving religion and not a very disputable reason.
@Debiruman1666
@Debiruman1666 3 ай бұрын
Why did you need to go so far to be an atheist ? Man, in it's 20 first lines, Genesis claims that plants are older than the Sun, which only appeared in the 4th day, which makes no sens, has a day is the period of light between two periods of dark, and that light is provided by the Sun... and flying animals made before land animals makes no sense either, as flying animals are land animals that evolved to get the ability to fly, no flying animal lives litteraly in the sky lol All this stuff is like 5th grade basic natural science... the guys who wrote genesis didn't now better than a modern 10 years old child...
@Debiruman1666
@Debiruman1666 3 ай бұрын
@@trevanhatch8717 From my point of view, there seems to be in USA a movement of hardcore believers/apologists becoming atheists because they just discover that what they believed just makes no sense and is but mere mythology...
@dangrutz4761
@dangrutz4761 4 ай бұрын
Love your MythVision interviews and documentaries. One thing I have noticed and it may just be regional usage or accent but when you say "tale" it sounds like "tell." Also when you say "fail" to me it sounds like "fell." Everything you say is completely understandable and you have a great speaking voice.
@exoplanet11
@exoplanet11 4 ай бұрын
Not to mention "LOLs" = "laws" in Derekese. But that's OK, the narratives are gripping aren't they?
@bnwessel
@bnwessel 4 ай бұрын
I love this
@willempasterkamp862
@willempasterkamp862 4 ай бұрын
Ketos may 'etymological' be related to (dutch) Kuit, vis-kuit (female fish-eggs) and (dutch) Hom, hom-vocht, puit (male fish-seed). which translates in english as Roe and/or Spawn. Obviously the monster is 'in heat' or 'horny' . The english pout (dutch puit/puut) meaning a hump, gland : pout-eel, blenny (puitaal). english roe, rod translates as dutch roede. A sticky 'thing' and often the sea-dragon is depicted as (double/twin) horned. The hebrew Keter (crown) is also a sticky thing to be placed on some-one's head. the semitic (?) god EL, melkiart, melech/moloch is to compare with greek Chronos/ Kronos and with the sacrifical Bull, eel, serpent or dragon. In the 'proto-indo-european' or PIE creation-myth this 'snake' is cut in pieces or castrated to 'shape' the elements of water and dust (Earth) together with wind and fire (Heavens) the 4 building-blocks of the universe. Jesus not so much stills the storm but 'winds and seas' the twin-duo Eather and Pontus (the horns). One, two-horned monster is symbolic for a 'trinity' likely from PIE origin.
@nun_bel_eever
@nun_bel_eever 4 ай бұрын
Found on the hem of the cassock: *_wear, wash, rinse, repeat..._*
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 4 ай бұрын
Remove the leading “I” from Ioannes and you get Oannes, the title of the great sage Adapa.
@NickVanderLaan7
@NickVanderLaan7 4 ай бұрын
It appears Jonah died and had an out of body experience while in the whale and resurrected.
@extemporaneous4545
@extemporaneous4545 4 ай бұрын
These Biblical stories were the soap operas of their day.
@EnneaIsInterested
@EnneaIsInterested 4 ай бұрын
I have grown to deeply respect the post-Exilic Israelite project as one of very innovative nation-building, filled with complex subversions of known genre literature, marking out the Jewish people as perhaps the world's first cohesive nation in a modern context?
@exoplanet11
@exoplanet11 4 ай бұрын
Not only is the literature of a high caliber but much of it functions in aid of the survival of the Jewish people group. Whether the enemies are Egyptians, Assyrians or Babylonians, there's always a lesson in there for the oppressors to heed the worshipers of YHWH and cut them some slack.
@VerbotenBiblia
@VerbotenBiblia 2 ай бұрын
Jer 51:34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, *he hath swallowed me up* like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, *he hath cast me out* .
@bradlyclark8943
@bradlyclark8943 4 ай бұрын
Knowing the close connection with Barosis and other parts of the Bible I wouldn't say it was a close cousin to the Babylonian story. I would say it's not only a direct rip off but also a "I got the real story." Right??? Like "that's unbelievable but I got the real story!"
@michaelosterweis
@michaelosterweis 4 ай бұрын
So true , I'm Right , Your Wrong , Any Questions . There the same stories .
@jeannie8173
@jeannie8173 4 ай бұрын
The story of Jonah is very important. It holds the answer to the times we are in. We cant stop what is coming but we can shorten it... If we do as the people of Nineveh did. Father will have mercy and stop man kind from killing all flesh. Remember this story!
@ryanrevland4333
@ryanrevland4333 4 ай бұрын
Nah, it just mythology
@umunhum3
@umunhum3 4 ай бұрын
Scripture is about what takes place within you not the external world The Parable of Jonah is about a Breathing Exercise You take air into your esophagus and then swallow it down into your bowels This allows you to create the Bread of Life or a different kind of energy that opens up the central column of your Spine Jesus taught the same exercise when he stopped the "wind and the waves" on the boat, as this exercise stops the Breath and the Heart Jonah then goes into a 3 day and night Meditation similar to Lazarus and Jesus
@umunhum3
@umunhum3 4 ай бұрын
@JesusLied_ReadTheBible False GOD? The Story of Jonah is a Parable about what you have to practice to free your Soul from your Mind and return to Stillness You instinctively know that being comes before the time and space based individual that is created by the mind All the experiences that make up your personality came after you existed so how can they be you? In Stillness, only GOD exists Jonah's three days in the belly of a fish is a metaphor for Samadhi The first born son (individual Consciousness) is surrendered when you become a Christ You then recognize that you were never the mind and body but merely picking up the vibration of creation You are in the world but not of the world
@umunhum3
@umunhum3 4 ай бұрын
@JesusLied_ReadTheBible Jesus didn't think Jonah and Noah were parables Jesus knew with absolute certainty that they were There are two poles of energy that flow through your body that are powered up by the breath flow These are referred to in Scripture as the Male and Female components, solar and lunar forces, the two witnesses, the two olive trees, Adam and Eve, they are said to have the power to shut down heaven as they bring about the first born son or individual consciousness that must be surrendered - do not eat of the tree of knowledge The East wind in the parable of Jonah is the solar force that flows through the right nostril The imbalance energy that flows within your body is what powers up the mind enveloping the soul and trapping it into physical existence The light shines in darkness and the darkness comprehends it not This is why you have to take up your cross in the bridal chamber which Moses referred to as the ark of the covenant, Noah just called it an ark The spiritual journey takes place within you not in the external world Have you ever noticed that your breath flow (spirit) rotates nostrils every hour? This is what creates time and space prior to which there is just Being This is why Jesus taught when two make peace with each other in this one house, they can say to the mountain move away and it will move away If you want to experience your spiritual birth in this lifetime, you should learn about your Spirit (Breath Flow) as balancing it is what opens the tree of life This is the Key to everything
@zecnobot
@zecnobot 4 ай бұрын
@JesusLied_ReadTheBible They love to toggle between "it's actual history" and " it's just allegory, bro", or "you aren't meant to know (you can't understand)". I think the bible was written by lawyers.
@BanglesAU
@BanglesAU 4 ай бұрын
I do not remember who did the video where thry have the theory that at the time Jonah was swallowed bt the fish there would of been a contellation in the skies called the whale, at a certain time the entire thjng would cover the sky and at that time the sailors called that 'being swallowed by the whale' I thought that was pretty interesting tho I don't know how they worked out when Jonah was travelling, or they just chose a date that the contellation would of been visible from the ocean he would of been on. I am just starting to learn that nearly every single bible story has a similar story in the myths of other cultures, interesting..... and many were written before the bible was... so who copied who? Lol
@michaelosterweis
@michaelosterweis 4 ай бұрын
Yes hunting whales ,for oils , sailing rough waters , that claims many lives , and he lives and returns an hero and tells an tale.
@michaelosterweis
@michaelosterweis 4 ай бұрын
Learn and live , or fail , and die , but you can fail and live to try again , if you dare.
@michaelosterweis
@michaelosterweis 4 ай бұрын
This is a time when man was learning the seas , swing will eat you . Long pork .
@theophilos0910
@theophilos0910 4 ай бұрын
Ninevites were Assyrian and would have no truck with YHWH the clan god of the Jews whom they conquered (721-701 BCE) and exiled to Nineveh any Yisroelites who could foster a rebellion (priests, elites & metalworkers &c) - the only way this legendary story could make any sense in terms of time frame would be the thrust from Judaean prophets to reach out specifically to the Yisroelite exiles in Assyria who had begun to dump YHWH (since he didn’t save them from their kingdom being destroyed) for the Assyrian national God Ashur and his consort Asherah-‘when in Rome…’ In Mark 4, ‘ho Iesous’ does not literally address the winds, but rather the disciples who were screaming ‘Rebbe Rebbe wake up ! Don’t you even care that we might drown ? And he stood up and said ‘Be Muzzled, all of you !’ which meant he was actually telling his disciples to ‘SHUT UP’ not commanding the winds to stop … and shortly afterwards the frequent squalls on the lake of Genessaret began to subside giving rise to ‘a miracle story’ with echoes of ‘Red Sea Moses’ parting the sea and midrashically adding (in Luke & Matthew) new dialogue which ‘theologically softens their angst’ - so instead of Mark’s ‘Rebbe, don’t you even care that we’re drowning?’ the harsh disrespectful dialogue was switched to something more ‘polite’ which would also drag in Old Testament ‘divinity powers’ e.g. ‘Save, Lord, we perish !’ (cf Psalms 118:25 and 46:10) Hagaddic Midrash (not pure ‘positivistic history detailing what really really happened in real life’) is one of the literary cornerstones of gospel narratives … which unfortunately most modern-day ‘Christian’s’ know nothing about at all…More’s’ the Pity, I say !!
@Huevo_dorado
@Huevo_dorado 4 ай бұрын
Al final Dios acabo con Ninive todo se cumple 😂
@Huevo_dorado
@Huevo_dorado 4 ай бұрын
TODO EL ATEISMO ESTA REFUTADO ESTE VIDEO SERA REFUTADO
@theophilos0910
@theophilos0910 4 ай бұрын
@@Huevo_dorado - Te das cuenta de yonah es legendario-simbolico-ficticio, ? no?
@klitzkop
@klitzkop 4 ай бұрын
The Amazon Anaconda, can swallow a man. I doubt any man can survive that.
@MadScientistCinema
@MadScientistCinema 4 ай бұрын
I caught a fish this big, but it got away… 🖐️🐋✋
@pavlovsdogman
@pavlovsdogman 4 ай бұрын
Referenced as a "fish" but likely the author meant "whale" as they didn't know whales were mammals? Not refered to as a "monster" and it is a parable not a true story so the fish is not the important part of the story anyway. 🐳
@MrPoilleke
@MrPoilleke 4 ай бұрын
As we now know, a whale's throat is too small to swallow a human...
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 4 ай бұрын
Do you use AI for your pics mate?
@Huevo_dorado
@Huevo_dorado 4 ай бұрын
YA TE LO VOY A REFUTAR ACUERDATE DE MIS PALABRAS
@Wisdomvip
@Wisdomvip 4 ай бұрын
I know where the fossilised remains of the fish are that got him. I also happen to know it is the same fish known as Jasconius. which is how jonah lived in it so long. The tail across is nearly 1000 kilometers across the tail. A monster animal like leviathan a dragon that is 14,450 kilometers long. his dead body still very visible and easy to find. These animals were absolutely real I have been following their tales across cultures through out their history. the fish that swallowed jonah, and it was a fish not a whale, whats left of its backbone is about 2000 kilometers of spine and the tail. but its till there.
@CharlesAlexander-vi3di
@CharlesAlexander-vi3di 2 ай бұрын
Submarine? Alien?
@n.c.1201
@n.c.1201 4 ай бұрын
"one helluva myth"
@jmc8076
@jmc8076 4 ай бұрын
Many myths or stories similar to biblical. Hard to deny but religions do. Infighting? 40:11 edifices are fascinating given time this image(and others) were said to be created and times depicted. Edit: Some buildings etc still exist.
@timesup8196
@timesup8196 4 ай бұрын
Jonah means Dove and the Dove is feminine not male, the pigeon is male! They lied.
@havadd
@havadd 4 ай бұрын
No I checked it out , male doves exist as a separate species that only mate together
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain 4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Whales aren't Doves 😏
@letsomethingshine
@letsomethingshine 4 ай бұрын
@TheCrafty, the world is fixed by stopping the rich and enriching the Ruth tellers that prove themselves
@GarthDomokos
@GarthDomokos Ай бұрын
There are 3 things that we know from his payer #1 Jonah is on the shoreline for this whole ordeal #2 even though Jonah is in the belly of an actual large fish, he has complete knowledge of his surroundings #3 Jonah's prayer is copy and paste from a common prayer used at the time which tells us #4 that the "whale" or "fish", are not even close to what is described in the old testament, which tells us #5 the majority of Christians profess to follow the bible, don't know how to actually read the bible. this leads us to #6, the lack of humility in those professing to know the bible.
@jamescastro2037
@jamescastro2037 4 ай бұрын
I knew a man who was half dolphin. He couldn't find his porpoise. He adjust by squeaking by and finding cliques to communicate with. The fish school him for their own purpose. What do I know! I'm just using my blow hole.
4 ай бұрын
Doesn't the number 3 in world mythology always represent the same thing? Triumph over the season of death? Based on the sacred promise Mother Nature demonstrates to all who incarnate in her world. Winter is her season of death which lasts 3 months. And is always, always, always followed by the season of life. Known as Spring. Which is also 3 months long. And is the season of rebirth and reconstitution and resurrection. Also every month the moon dies for 3 days and then is reborn anew as a sacred new moon. This is why dying and rising gods are entombed for 3 days before they resurrect. This is why Hermes Trimegistus was known as the thrice great. As he was famous for trumping over death. Just like Jesus The Christ. This is what the 3 mithraic wise men represent. And this is all the Christian trinity actually symbolizes. It isn't about the individual personas but rather the sacred promise of the number 3. Which is what most parental deity religions are selling.💙
@fotosynthesis8865
@fotosynthesis8865 4 ай бұрын
There is an answer to the things you talk about on this show: Calbrated Analogy i.e. the method of storing info in the pre lit world. You should have me on to explain it.
@sabrinanascimento5248
@sabrinanascimento5248 4 ай бұрын
Which kind of Sea Monster is it? No way is it a whale 🐳, It’s a Mammal. Maybe it’s just like in the Pirates of the Caribbean.
@GarthDomokos
@GarthDomokos Ай бұрын
your answer is actually in the bible... I found it, and its rather simple and humorous.
@Beverly-b8r
@Beverly-b8r 4 ай бұрын
jannah and the males belly?
@reinatheomni-panda7028
@reinatheomni-panda7028 16 күн бұрын
Mythvoresion
@cpnlsn88
@cpnlsn88 4 ай бұрын
For Christians this is a most importat book. Jesus says that the only sign to be given is the sign of Jonah. Quite a few issues arise. 1. Jonah creates many converts to the Jewish God. None of the converts are Jews. None of them bring sacrifice and none are ethnic Jews. 2. God had given his word he'd destroy Nineveh. Following their response to the message God repents - does not carry out his previous word. 3. The context for this book and also Ruth is to be a juxtaposition to the actions undertaken by Ezra in the putting away the non-ethnic Jews in mied marriages. The message of both Jonah and Ruth is in juxtaposition. God changing his mind is important because of the Deuteronomic injunction against mixed marriages used by Ezra. In particular, in Jonah, God is caring about all the children - and one can think of the children of the mixed marriages. 4. Similarly in Ruth the heroine is a Moabite, married Boaz and is a progenitor of no less than David. 5. Jonah typifies israel/Judah. He's upset becasue God doesn't destroy Nineveh. He sets up his booth precisly to watch Nineveh being destroyed and wants to die because that doesn't take place. 6. Note in Jonah God has concern for the animals. The animals aren't used in sacrifice and seem, alomg with adults and children seem to be part of divine concern. 7. Jonah, while in the big fish, typifies the exile away from the Holy Land. His lack of concern for the Ninevites reflects teh harsh view of the Jews returning from exile, 8. Jonah is both bad and good. He goes in the wrong direction because he does't want the Ninvites to be able to repent, On the oyjer hand he always tells the truth when asked. 9. God in the Jewish Scripture is described as being the one who made heaven and earth, in Jonah God is described as the One who made the sea and dry land. This is a change of perspective of the divine and the Creation, relating strongly to those converting to the new faith.
@iwilldi
@iwilldi 4 ай бұрын
In Mark the calming of the storm opens the 1st branch of the bifurcated story, while Jesus walk on water opens the 2nd branch. While we have a strong homeric allusion in the 1st branch it is also clear that Jonah makes a short appearance. The fact that Mark here combines two sources mimetically certainly adds to difficulties in interpretation. Yet it may be helpfull if one recognizes that the 1st branch has Mark project a Jerusalem perspective and the 2nd projects a pauline perspective. So here is also a task to find how those two trange passage across the lake can be differentiated. what are the differences - In the 1st branch they don't throw Jesus overboard even when the source Jonah tells them so. - In the 2nd branch Jesus is allready overboard and it is about Jesus coming into the boat. - in the 1st branch Jesus is quite physically present yet asleep! - in the 2nd branch Jesus is seen as a ghost walking on water! - in the 1st branch Jesus is seen as a safey to the crew. - in the 2nd branch Jesus is seen as a danger to the crew. - in the 1st branch Jesus is calming the wind - in the 2nd branch he is calming the spirit of the disciples. - in the 1st branch the action leads to cross the sea as planned - in the 2nd branch the destination Bethsaida is missed. Bethsaida joins both branches again, before they go to Cesarea Philippi. So differentiating the branches was the cause how Mark morphed Jonah and homeric mimesis. The homeric theme allows us to recognize the cryptic landscape. But Jonah may have been one of these inspriational kernels, which simply fit too well into this greater homeric theme. But where does Jesus sleeping finally come from? Jonah or the Odyssee? That is hard to decide.
@fotosynthesis8865
@fotosynthesis8865 4 ай бұрын
if you dont understand carburetors and then one day you do figure it out, you dont need to take apart every single carb on earth to prove to anyone else that you know. Likewise, if you do not understand how the biblical stories could be real, once you figure it out you dont need to plough through every single myth on earth to prove to anyone else that you know. You apply what you figure out: a method. If you dont have a method then all you have is an inkling. Methods > inklings
@zecnobot
@zecnobot 4 ай бұрын
Explain this like I'm 5.
@fotosynthesis8865
@fotosynthesis8865 4 ай бұрын
@@zecnobot Myth is cast per biome. Its the biome that determines the symbolism. Fire to an aboriginal is a devouring usually male wolf that destroys, but to a Euro its a nurturing force thats usually feminine. There cannot be an accurate symbolism dictionary, it must be per biome. The symbols themselves are stand ins for ideas. The idea of principle is a limit, a circumference...carcer, the root of incarceration. This is styled in myth as a circling hawk, or an ass walking around a mill, or a coiling snake, depending on the biome. The initiated did not worship the symbol, but did through the symbol get to the idea. Myth is body of information, stored in symbolic form pre literature, but it must be unwound from many different spools before it is in a more unbias form. Its basically all the parts needed to keep their way of life afloat. The congregation is the memory device. The shaman is the one who can unlock the info out of the stories. The songs and dances are merely memory devices. This whole system is like an unwound clock sitting there telling you its age, but the whole world made a table out of the clock and if you look you can see the clock in there, but all anyone wants to talk about is the dang table.
@DemiGod-j9h
@DemiGod-j9h 4 ай бұрын
One being ( ningazshida / annunaki ) wrote the entire worlds story . How do we know ? A author leaves a fingerprint on all his work .. breadcrumbs , I followed each morsel❤ religious free world , soon to come . Then comes world peace . Then we will become gods .. lower case g of course .
@DemiGod-j9h
@DemiGod-j9h 4 ай бұрын
Do not comment until you studied the entire planet ❤ so far I have 10 pages of the number 3 , from Jesus dying 3 days , Muhammed dying 3 years later , SMH humans are faith sheep but I will make them lions
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 4 ай бұрын
Johan is satire
@WWJD799
@WWJD799 4 ай бұрын
WRONG.
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 4 ай бұрын
@@WWJD799 lol no. Take 5 seconds to google it and tell me what you find. Go ahead. I’ll wait.
@letsomethingshine
@letsomethingshine 4 ай бұрын
It’s comedic. To call it satire is to say modern and ancient Jews do not and did not believe Jonah was an actual prophet in their ethnic-historical genealogies.
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 4 ай бұрын
@@letsomethingshine no. Sweetheart. People have been explaining that Johan is satire for hundreds of years. This isn’t news. Stop crying
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 4 ай бұрын
@@letsomethingshine wtf are you crying about. It’s doesn’t me that at all.
@peterhook2258
@peterhook2258 4 ай бұрын
lol I love this channel..and Im a believer, however..you seriously missed the primary point of the story of Jonah. Do a google search of Jonah and the Fish and Satire. It is a comical satire with lessons. Why is this important...because it shows that sacred scripture is not literal. Once you see the humor in the Jonah story...the sacred humor you can not unsee it. You can verify this with a professor of literature but first, make sure they are an expert in satire. You will literally laugh your way all thru the story once you understand the humor.....for instance...Jonah is going to preach to ...Pagans...roflrofl, and then...they worship a fish God right and where did Jonah just come from rofl. Also...the Pagans...REPENT even their animals...roflrofl. And the prophet..is SAD THEY REPENTED roflrofl and his prophecy..FAILS. You have the power to teach the Christian world, that scripture...is sacred literature...not literal history. Peace. Do you understand the power of this...IT IS OBVIOUSLY SATIRE...a sacred story that is designed to be laughed thru. Don't miss this...more? The shipmates are mad...AT THE PROPHET rofl. The Prophet...RUNS from the LORD! rofl..anyway. Do some research cuz sometimes critics even overlook the obvious. Peace. oh...Yeshua is King
@MandyMoorehol
@MandyMoorehol 4 ай бұрын
The entire Bible is satire.
@manbearpig3507
@manbearpig3507 4 ай бұрын
can tell ur a Christian u regurgitated the same ol Ninevite fish god bs and called them pagans at a time when every1 was a polytheist
@vsTylervs
@vsTylervs 4 ай бұрын
bro thinks he’s not missing the point of this video 😂😂😂
@cochetah4339
@cochetah4339 4 ай бұрын
hahaha...but the patterns of Fibonacci and golden triangle and in us and nature and structure plans of arches and highway curves and DNA. ah, That is proof of divine intelligence not the destructive submission of Islam but the purpose for life in His Name and increase wisdom of Micah6:8.
@terranhealer
@terranhealer 4 ай бұрын
Why is it religious believers always write their thoughts with words in all caps and verbiage that reads like a monologue?
@entrylevelemployee
@entrylevelemployee 4 ай бұрын
is this semen retention and astral projection?
@waynevictory5208
@waynevictory5208 4 ай бұрын
The Bible both Old Testament and new are not mythological. They have shown time and time again to be true.
@Kon-r2g
@Kon-r2g 4 ай бұрын
The Odyssey = Saros Cycle
@yorksfolly1255
@yorksfolly1255 4 ай бұрын
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