The US Bans Kaspersky

[@Grifter]

Somthing tells me they just mad that kaspersky keeps detecting fed malware.

[@Iicence]

trust me

[@xenon6947]

@@Iicenceapple silicone backdoor through which Pegasus work like zero click.

[@azahid1aza751]

Hindering Israel's spyware 😢

[@riley1636]

@@xenon6947 silicon, not silicone. Also, those are unrelated. Pegasus does not require Apple Silicon hardware vulnerabilities found on older chipsets.

[@DGTelevsionNetwork]

​@@xenon6947Pegasus is from Israel though.

[@zeldera]

Kaspersky notifies me every time microsoft edge want's to use my webcam when I don't even use microsoft edge

[@JackDoingStuff]

That's incredible. 😅

[@RustedCroaker]

I need to install Kaspersky right now

[@Mark-12-31]

Some Microsoft Edge services run in the background.

[@jquad3659]

Windows is malware

[@anandnairkollam]

Edge is always working in the background if you have windows

[@portalpuppy31]

The fact they're banning Kaspersky is ridiculous, especially when Kaspersky can detect malware that even Bitdefender cannot find.

[@abeytoby1900]

As a Kaspersky user i can confirm that it is the best in the market.

[@motorizedlifting2534]

@@abeytoby1900 Eset Nod32 is the best

[@Mavendow]

BD was good. Back in the day it shut down my PC rather than let the malware continue, because it could not stop it. But not anymore. Now it's still effective, but slow, and it messes with the NTFS file journal. I had so many NTFS issues until uninstalling it.

[@NightmareRex6]

and kaspersky only one that dosent mark cracks and keygens and other usefull archive files as "viruses"! (falase positives) and lots the anti malware just effing AUTOMATICALY DELETES the files! without asking to check it first and meany dont have a proper quantine!, unless ofcourse the keygen/crack IS also a trojan which then it will mark.

[@xeqqail3546]

@@NightmareRex6 Yeah kaspersky is very good at not f*cking up false positive. It does behavioral checks (ey yo this programs only search and add some arbitrary key on my register to be used in a perfectly fine software. It's all good unless it tries to overwrite or delete files. I will also observe the software and see if the arbitrary key does something funny. All good bro :) ). Other AV on the other hand .. (YO YO THIS SHIT FILENAME IS "KEYGEN" IT MUST BE VVIRUS NO JOKE 100% BRO YOU GONNA GET HACKED BRO I WILL PERMA DELETE THIS NOW .. hell yeah its all good now you are safe with us :) ).

[@mike_diz]

Only USA spyware is allowed on your computer 👿😡🤬

[@_xX_me_Xx_]

Made in the USA 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@no_name4796]

My computer runs a finnish operating system. Beat that CIA!

[@kevina.4036]

People freak about TikTok... you don't think Instagram is equally invasive if not worse?

[@_xX_me_Xx_]

@@kevina.4036 yeah, but TikTok's parent company is chinese, and by the logic of many US government officials, that means it is undeniably spyware designed to milk the american consumer of all of their data.

[@JorgeLopez-qj8pu]

🥰As it should be🥰

[@ernestoditerribile]

Then they should ban all Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Adobe and Apple Software and Operating systems too, they all contain government backdoors.

[@ahriboy]

No software is perfect. Google or OEMs can have backdoors on Android phones.

[@Kwijibob]

Russia and China are doing that very thing

[@cygnusghedepereu6885]

@@ahriboy you can theoretically legally bind a person to give you their kidney, but should you?

[@xavi_6767]

I will guarantee you that no one uses a legit licence of Windows and Adobe in Russia or any poor Asian countries.

[@AdventureSMBW]

Yeah but thats OUR government. They get a pass

[@brentkeller3826]

When the FBI went to the antivirus companies and asked to have FBI backdoors allowed on their products, only two companies told them to pound sand. One was Kaspersky, the other was McAffee.

[@305Nick]

yep and we know what they did to McAffee

[@brentkeller3826]

@@305Nick Yes, and it was pretty blatant too.

[@NightmareRex6]

and assume mcAfee nolonger the case for long and was part why he was offed, also probbaly for his bitcoin stash, idk why tho those things are so easily hacked ofton just need this recovery phrase that i KNOW peaople have guessed alot of times becuase i had 15$ bitcoin vanish and my recovery phrase dose NOT work, so meaning the company randomly stole it, or hacker got it and changed it! so it certainly was NOT the bitcoin the primary reason.

[@meghanachauhan9380]

Why don't Americans pass legislation to prosecute cia instead of just laughing about their horseshit. What happened to your self respect?

[@brentkeller3826]

@@meghanachauhan9380 You see the crap our government did to the J6 protestors? People need to get more riled up before that treatment no longer scares them. And remember, during the 2020 summer of love, 2 billion in damages by blm and antifa, nobody in jail for twenty years.

[@PiterburgCowboy]

They really accuse everyone else of the things they are doing. A US-General joined the board of OpenAI btw,. You know, the thing that will monitor your Windows and Iphone activities natively soon using your own computing power.

[@RoofusRoof19]

Takes a spy to know a spy

[@rarerx]

I’d rather be spied on by my government than russians

[@SebastianRoczz]

openai dosent make all the ai and i dont think they did the windows one

[@UNcommonSenseAUS]

​@CCherriosfullulz

[@balsalmalberto8086]

Whataboutism. Everytime.

[@Bllksem]

The idea that the us government cares about your privacy is laughable when American companies like Google and Facebook exist

[@Hezeri]

Depends on whether it's a foreign agency or national agency that's doing the data collection. And that's completely reasonable for national safety against a "cold war" opponent. As the current situation is something between cold war and an actual war, a guess it could be thought of as a proxy war. I wish the EU would follow suit with the ban. No need to give an enemy country access to citizens information. And there's no guarantee that they couldn't use the affected computers for an attack in future. Before you come say that they are not collecting user data in russia, they're still sharing virus research data between the datacenters, and it would be fairly easy to share more data without leaving a lot of traces. I also know how good Kaspersky is, especially the accuracy vs false detection, and the level of control you have of the functions. But as long as they're controlled by russia, it shouldn't be used. And the same applies for the US if it ever becomes an enemy nation.

[@Bllksem]

@@Hezeri You’re not wrong, but the govt is basically saying they’re protecting our privacy when they are the biggest perpetrators of violating it. What I’m saying is that they’re banning it because it could be a useful tool for Russia, not because they care about our privacy like they claim. It’s a double standard and it’s fun to laugh at them for trying to sell it to us. Realistically if you want privacy you shouldn’t be using any software from any company that has any ties to any government. This spying and mass data collection is just too tempting and too easy for governments for me to believe that they’re not all doing it.

[@jan_harald]

when did they say they care about privacy? they only care about foreign countries exploiting your data, they WANT your data, they don't want OTHER countries to have your data it's the exact same logic as the companies, google is pretty damn good at protecting your data...from everyone who isn't google (or the government)...facebook a little less so, but still a lot along the same lines, only they are allowed to utilize data from your interactions and profile(s) and such, nobody else is ;P

[@gasparoraimondi5259]

@@Hezeri Do you have any evidence or is it just your imagination?

[@deliciouspops]

@@gasparoraimondi5259 i mean... be nice

[@Legz_inStyle]

Isn't the main problem that Kaspersky has a history of publicizing US federal exploits?

[@ratdoto2148]

Yes of course this is why.

[@angelod2]

They're doing God's work with that.

[@CThyran]

​@@angelod2 Go to Russia then, I'm sure they'd love some smoothbrain like you in their ranks.

[@angelod2]

@@CThyran Kaspersky isn't based in Russia. Keep looking

[@CThyran]

@@angelod2 Yes their headquartered in Switzerland to avoid western sanctions. Don't play coy.

[@clothstrangler]

It must be the Russian thing about spying on us and nothing to do with Kaspersky revealing a new way to detect Pegasus spyware….

[@tactknightgaming2066]

Oy. Vey...

[@berthold64]

SHUT UP. STOP HECCIN NOTICING

[@tigers3748]

Please. Russia probably deploys Pegasus in their own systems owing to how close to Israel they are geopolitically. USA isn't the only country exposed to their duplicity.

[@brostoevsky22]

Israel compared Russia to Hamas recently, effectively calling them terrorists. Israel stands with Ukraine. Just like their Ukie brethren I hope their government falls. Everything always goes back to Israel. It's a spoiled brat of a nation playing God that needs to eat a massive slice of humble pie.

[@some_name]

russia is all about terror

[@bigsussyopsec]

Translation: "they didn't allow us to put our own back doors "

[@west221b]

CIA doesn't like competition As a former gov't employee, I used security products to protect my computers from government systems, not the other way around.

[@90Degrees_]

What security do you use? I use malwarebytes, is that good?

[@west221b]

@@90Degrees_ I've used the free version (I never, ever pay for antimalware) in the past for manual scans and remediation. I use F-Secure (provided by my ISP), which is good, doesn't do false-positives and is performant (most important to me; I'm not really concerned about malware--I don't go clicking on stuff I don't know what it is for certain, which is the best antimalware anyone can have).

[@amritlohia8240]

@@90Degrees_ Malwarebytes is OK, but its signatures are not that great, so it relies heavily on machine learning and advanced heuristics, which can produce more false positives than other products.

[@jer1776]

If the government wants to do something based, they should ban kernel level anti cheats. So many video game companies partially or fully owned by Tencent use them.

[@JorgeLopez-qj8pu]

Then how will companies access it? No, just band Tencent like TikTok

[@ghcfuj77557]

That's why many games can't run linux, anti cheats

[@minuteworld7027]

they should ban denuvo as well

[@MetalGearsOfThought]

Would you rather just play against cheats all day long? Or do you know a better way of preventing little boys from destroying everyone's gaming experience?

[@HontoNeet]

​@@MetalGearsOfThought Human beings who are experienced in the games in question can easily detect cheats just by spectating the offender, I assure you it doesn't require a rootkit (malware)

[@BigChimpEnergy]

I can understand it being banned as far as government employees' devices go, because that's a matter of "national security", but to go after Kaspersky nationwide is ridiculous.

[@IFD2]

I agree Kaspersky is actually great!

[@blablableep6811]

Tik Tok changed the Status Quo

[@b1nglebongled1ngledangle]

facts

[@ryanthomasyee]

P

[@ryanthomasyee]

Pp

[@yukitakaoni007]

Ok. I’m sold. This is the best Kaspersky advertisement. I’ll continue using Kaspersky.

[@CoderSal-XIII]

It will no longer be available for download in the US for PC, macOS, Android, or iOS. It is also going to be severely limited in functionality starting from September 10th through September 29th. I'm reading about it as I watch this video and write this.

[@yukitakaoni007]

@@CoderSal-XIII got it, thanks for the heads up

[@LastDitchHero]

Kaspersky lab got the blacklist because weren't they ones who posted all the Intel management engine "unlisted" commands.

[@rusi6219]

Haha so the feds can commission intel CPUs without the ME but if a researcher gives the consumers an option to disable it they get blacklisted roflmaoooo

[@LastDitchHero]

@rusi6219 I'm sure the Russian connection was a big one but they were blacklisted 3 days after releasing that research.

[@chilbiyito]

Where?

[@YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments]

RISC is the only future free of hardware backdoors

[@smallcube-zn2mm]

Where is was published?

[@cheeki-breeki]

Best ad ever for Kaspersky, that's the software equivalent of the "CIA award for excellence in journalism"

[@AbdulBido]

Comodo. 😀

[@letmedoit8095]

Yes, please install it because everyone knows "American malware bad, Russian malware good"

[@cheeki-breeki]

@@letmedoit8095 конечно)))😎

[@chico9805]

​@@letmedoit8095 Indeed, same reason why I use Yandex and not Google.

[@yggdrasilburnes]

​@@letmedoit8095Russia can have my data, it isnt going to send me to war with it or drop my social credit score or report me to the police for wrongthink or use it to tax me more for some reason.

[@MarcCastellsBallesta]

That connection between the ban and Pegasus is really interesting...

[@Mark-12-31]

Could be that too. It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse.

[@roberturbanowicz4688]

@@Mark-12-31 And in USA it's different? All big tech companies work with NSA (prism).

[@Mark-12-31]

@@roberturbanowicz4688 Similar, but they can refuse and survive.

[@anthonyenriquez6309]

@@Mark-12-31 I care about having the best product

[@RTPTechTips]

08:48 It is interesting. Kaspersky exposes backdoor qualities of Pegasus, quality backdoor-type software that came on new computers (at the time), like Computrace (Kaspersky presentation), and Positive Technologies also brought neutering backdoor qualities of Intel Management Engine / security concerns on intel. *Both having this in common: BLACKLISTED.* 🙄

[@diasdeinvierno8041]

Man I follow all your videos you're awesome keep up the good work! You should have more subscribers who can learn from you

[@izraphailzero5610]

because Kaspersky lab was working in Alabuga (area in Russia), where they were building military drones that are used as a weapon in Ukraine. Also it was confirmed by leaks from Alabuga that Kaspersky's engineers were not only building weapon and helping BANNED companies to avoid sanctions, but also were a source of intelligence for FSB and GRU (guys who're in charge of APT28 and APT29).

[@TheGeorey]

@izraphailzero5610 Me when I spread misinformation online

[@mrrooter601]

@@izraphailzero5610 holy based

[@HatTrex]

​@@izraphailzero5610the story makes no sense an av engineer has 0 competence in robotics and things that fly or move in the real world in general, copy pasting this to every comment won't make this true lol

[@mickeyslaven]

What a “free” country.

[@ghcfuj77557]

We should overthrow it right

[@aidenpearse2940]

war is a serious thing

[@IFD2]

@@ghcfuj77557yes

[@dentheduck2095]

@@ghcfuj77557 haha, yeah, try your own advertised medicine. Respond if it would actually work

[@ghcfuj77557]

@@IFD2 yes indeed :)

[@pimactv9778]

As an IT technician I use to submit malware samples and use things like VirusTotal to compare vendors and Kasperspy has always had a superior detection rate, and superiour heuristics for catching things that were not detected or reported in a global database.

[@Integrity3]

John McAfee didn't kill himself

[@sunrosec]

He most certainly did.

[@EddieSpaghetti69]

@@sunrosec Thank you for your service as a fed; all that keeping us safe *from you* must be hard work. Pissants. And that's all you'll ever be.

[@aspektric]

@@sunrosec ngmi

[@brianwesley28]

​@carloareaIser I doubt it.

[@ManBung]

Yeah maybe the fumes of all that shit he was snorting got to him, or maybe his baboon mistress got greedy

[@GarfieldRex]

Government dedicated to the use of hacking software bans company dedicated to hacking prevention.

[@Omi-han]

Cold war never ended between us really

[@tigers3748]

Cope

[@UID574]

Kaspersky was already banned for Federal use or by federal contractors for about ten years because actual incidents that occurred through the software. The cyber landscape has changed a lot and will be used to gather Intel on the military directly or indirectly along with other critical systems across the us including consumer systems.

[@dr-rexmangrca113]

​@@UID574yep it prevent the government from spying on it useless workers

[@pavementstoneguy]

Kaspersky is honestly REALLY good. Saved me a couple times when using Limewire. Worth every penny

[@edwardferry8247]

Thank you. Just purchased 👌 anything the US and Israel don’t want you to have is going straight on my shopping list.

[@aboxinspace]

I'm absolutely borrowing this mindset 💅🏼

[@PrimetimeX]

Why Israel? What do you have against Israel?

[@antares3518]

@@PrimetimeX what do you have against palestine?

[@PrimetimeX]

@@antares3518 who? Hes crying about Israel. Seems like he hates Jewish people

[@cam_934]

When the US wants to ban an AV then you know its likely one of the best AV's to get as all those 3 letter US agencies get upset when the company doesn't build in backdoors for them.

[@bixi]

Nah, this one is just a russian spyware that works with russian government together on drone and ai projects related to drones.

[@tighlia3375]

Every lie has a grain of truth under it. The lie is the official story, obviously, but it's also not implausible, either. I'm more on board with the idea that the company made something able to detect US Govt. spyware, and so they personally took offense to that.

[@nathanpriest7116]

Thats probably true. I'm a little disappointed to hear this because I have complete trust in Kaspersky. I don't use anti virus software anymore but if I did it would be Kaspersky. It's the only anti virus I've never had a negative experience with.

[@jss2a98aj]

Probably is spyware by their own definition, since Kaspersky likely collects samples of malware the US considers classified. Kaspersky is also not easy to strong-arm into ignoring certain things like western AV developers are.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@jss2a98aj Also whole pegasus spyware kit story...

[@nightelfuser]

@@jss2a98aj Exactly this. They can't tell Karspersky what to do, so they decided to ban it altogether. This is the only way these control freaks can achieve a "victory".

[@comosaycomosah]

Yep I like Kaspersky too. Their is alot going on tho and even tho I assume it's not a threat to me personally I'm gonna stop using it unfortunately just to be safe.

[@DrTableman]

Never had I felt a stronger need to buy a Kaspersky license. Ironically it's great advertisement for it if you're in another country.

[@trololoev]

I am from Russia and now i want payed version of Kaspersky.

[@KrunoslavStifter]

Getting rid of competition under national security. The oldest trick in the book.

[@lbanepa]

We are here to help

[@KrunoslavStifter]

@@lbanepa Scariest words. We are from the goverment and we are here to help.

[@321Jarn]

​@@KrunoslavStifter for real, everything the government does that "helps" is actually harming people.

[@interstellarobesity]

Ok "Krunoslav" lol

[@asmyself4021]

ruzzia is literally at war.

[@JuanxDlol]

Kaspersky discovers a way to detect and remove Pegasus. US bans Kaspersky hm...

[@JackSack-w5h]

Amnesty International had already devised a method to detect Pegasus, years ago, called mvt. Pegasus isn't some big boogeyman mystery that you can't detect

[@sharoyveduchi]

@@JackSack-w5h what kind of monkey username is that? Are you some paid shill?

[@hanelyp1]

@@JackSack-w5h I totally do not trust amnesty international. Perhaps if their method were released as open source subject to inspection.

[@JackSack-w5h]

​@@hanelyp1it... WAS released as open-source onto GitHub. I don't get it. You couldn't even bother googling "Amnesty International MVT"?

[@sansmoraxz]

I think the backdoors they discovered and reported on Apple devices is far more important. Wonder who put that. 🤔

[@ashade2877]

All antivirus can be categorized as Spyware. Any software that has the ability to send information to a remote sevrer can be classified as a spyware. IT is just a matter of who you prefer having access.

[@ragnakak]

Why do I feel like I’ve heard this story five times over the last decade or so

[@Molya]

There is an article on Wikipedia called "Kaspersky bans and allegations of Russian government ties"

[@br.3250]

Those are rookie numbers

[@pyrielrising4338]

Wasn't it engineers at Kaspersky that outed Israel and Stuxnet? It's possible this has been a long time coming.

[@mattlebutter9162]

Check out StripedFly recently...

[@desmond-hawkins]

No. Stuxnet was originally discovered by Sergey Ulasen, a researcher at the Belarussian company *VirusBlokAda* which makes the VBA32 antivirus. Kaspersky Lab did contribute to the analysis, but so did many others. Ulasen was already on it by mid-June 2010, while Kaspersky Lab only learned about Stuxnet from Microsoft in early July. See the article titled "A Declaration of Cyber-War" for a detailed timeline.

[@mattlebutter9162]

Kaspersky recently found the triangulation one on Apple and stripedFly, so yes, the NSA has reasons to be pissed.

[@heyhoe168]

@@mattlebutter9162 I mean NSA has reasons against any solid antivirus tool, they cant ban them all. This ban, however, is simply a part of preparation to WW3, I guess.

[@PrimetimeX]

"Israel bad" crowd crawling all over the comments

[@FielValeryRTS]

The fact that US banned Kaspersky convinced me to use the antivirus more than any other. 😂

[@Mark-12-31]

Comments like these appear so fake. I guess in a tyranny like Russia, creativity is one of the first things to go.

[@KillianTwew]

As a kid I thought it was Casper sky. Like Casper the friendly ghost, in the sky.

[@ASBO_LUTELY]

That's what I've always assumed, even up until hearing this guys strange pronunciation.

[@kinnikuzero]

Same, I've never heard anyone pronounce it the other way till now

[@kacperkonieczny7333]

Explanation: cause it is a Slavic last name that originates from "child of Kasper"

[@mikhailryzhov9419]

There was a reasonably well known security researcher under alias Chris Kasperski (no relation to Evgenii), confused a lot of people. He actually had chosen his alias because of the friendly ghost.

[@NightmareRex6]

when i was a kid i thught the 90s dialup sound was saying "james james james eeerrrt james james eeeerrrrrrrt james james" and that "james" was the inventor of the internet.

[@kspillane]

Ha! I worked for geek squad from 2008-2013. I always pushed Kaspersky because it worked, and their AVZ took could actually repair damage caused by malware. Best but sold so much Kaspersky, I think in 2012ish Eugene Kaspersky himself gave a speech at Best Buy corporate thanking everyone for their support. I plan to keep using it for removals, I am sure this won't hold up in the courts.

[@mrotss]

itll hold up in the courts because of people like “clearance” thomas and the judge in the young thug trial. the us justice system doesnt work

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

One of the features enabled by default in the Kaspersky AV suite is an HTTPS proxy, which allows the detection of malicious payloads as people browse the Web. That's basically a MitM tool installed willingly, although many people have no idea it's there. Since it's a good AV, I am not planning to uninstall it anytime soon.

[@andrewphoto4750]

Real plus their ad block, anti banner, tracker blocks and pair with UBlock origin SNIPES all the ads, haven’t seen a single ad while one the internet. And life has been peaceful

[@idontwantachannelimjustcom7745]

If kasperky called out copilot and recall, I'd switch to kaspersky.

[@ZainaShines]

After this? They probably won't anymore 😢 Though I'm not sure how Kaspersky might react to all this

[@KirikkSiSq]

They'd better call out Windows 10 telemetry services, I so fucking hate them, they make my laptop go jet mode when I installed an app and turbo boost is on

[@heroldmutebi8200]

​@@KirikkSiSqthere are scripts you can use to create a minified ISO without the callbacks.

[@Channel-qe5pk]

Serious question, if we're going down this road, why not just tell Americans that they cannot run any proprietary code on their devices that originates from Russia? What makes Kaspersky any more of a threat than any other Russian dev???

[@SHERMA.]

serious answer. this is not the same as stealing someone github code for your pokemon game this is an actively running program on millions of devices around the world and 1:11 says it better than i could. its about the POTENTIAL of it being used maliciously

[@IFD2]

@CCherriosfulthis I supposed to be a Free country so this goes against that

[@IFD2]

@@SHERMA. it’s fear there’s no actual proof or evidence that they are doing anything wrong. The whole point of this country is to literally be innocent until proven guilty. They should’ve took Kaspersky to court. Our government keeps overstepping their boundaries.

[@Channel-qe5pk]

@CCherriosful As an American myself, I say the software that Americans choose to run on their personal devices is none of your business.

[@Channel-qe5pk]

@@SHERMA. That's cool, but in America we have this thing called the 4th amendment.

[@romancvijanovic7130]

Yes, the US Gov definitely cares about their citizens. Definitely!

[@Mark-12-31]

It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse. Putin is to blame.

[@MicahThomason]

I used to use Kaspersky back in the day when viruses were an actual problem. They saved my machine more than once.

[@potatoplayer420]

Are viruses somehow not a problem now?

[@brimstoner982]

​@@potatoplayer420 Not if you're smart about what you're downloading.

[@tyxyerfyyzxynm4259]

​​@@potatoplayer420well theres windows defender its free and its pretty decent plus people are more educated now

[@potatoplayer420]

@@brimstoner982 But im dumb af and don't know what to trust 🤣

[@impersonator4439]

Same. Back around 2008 I had a virus that only Kaspersky could remove. It also protected Windows exceptionally well back then. Now Windows is spyware so.

[@RoofusRoof19]

>Offensive security So what you call the hackers a slur and they go cry or something

[@smoban]

REAL

[@Gaming_Legend2]

"I got called a script kiddie 😭I'm not gonna breach no more"

[@d47rk]

US Bans Kaspersky, people uses Kaspersky more.

[@Mark-12-31]

Not really. It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse. Blame Putin.

[@mrnickname850]

If the US government doesn't like it, it must be really good.

[@milk_yt]

Honestly I don't use it, but I still had some "respect" towards it because it's actually an antivirus that works and is not just some adware like most proprietary software out there. For that matter, even their free version that there was back then (I don't know if it's still around) didn't have any ads, not even advertisement for their paid version. It's clear that they had at least some respect for what they were doing.

[@Sawta]

It's a considerable concern as far as how badly this will impact future research. Security research is one of those things that's meant to transcend national boundaries for a net benefit to everyone involved. I hate the idea of that information getting locked down based on citizenship.

[@MercsProduction]

Whether or not the government is justified, I think it's dangerous to allow them to take choices away from citizens. If we just let it happen, we'll wonder what's next on the chopping block.

[@robonator2945]

better question, why the hell is the topic of conversation not "why is the government telling you what software you're allowed to install on your computer". Who gives a fuck what their intentions are, this is not something that governments have a right to regulate. People will go on and on about how "buying isn't owning anymore" because they willingly buy devices that are locked down, yet a politican knocks on their door and tells them what software they're allowed to have whether they like it or not and that's okay? So a customer willingly buying a locked down device is a no-no, but politicians deciding what software you're allowed to put on that device whether the end user likes it or not is fine and dandy?

[@sampletext9426]

Americans are raised like cattle... which unfortunately the rest of the world's government are imitating that...

[@thepureheartofdark]

Though I agree, you have to take into account the current situation between the US and Russia. Then add the fact that Karspersky is being used by multiple companies within the US for all their information systems and given that most Antivirus nowadays work on the Kernel (highest access a program can have in a computer). I highly doubt this ban is aimed at individuals. I think the government is aiming to curb Karspersky use in large companies, due to the risk it might be used by current Russia to suddenly down part of the economy.

[@Magus12000BC]

In this case, the government isn't telling you what you can install on your computer. The government is telling the company that they can't sell to you. That sounds like a non difference, but it really isn't. Kaspersky wouldn't know that you were American if you purchased it through a VPN with foreign currency. And no feds are going to knock on your door for doing that. The liability lies with the company, not with you.

[@robonator2945]

​@@Magus12000BC "you can't do this" is telling you what you can and can't do. It sounds like a non-difference because it *_is_* a non-difference, they are literally one and the same. If the government says "you are *_not_* allowed to have sex with anyone of the same sex as yourself" that is just as infringing as "you are *_only_* allowed to have sex with someone of the oopposite sex to yourself. I'm assuming the point you are trying to say is that "it's not making it illegal to install it, it's making it illegal for kaspersky to do business with people in the US!" but *_that_* is a *_actually_* a distinction without a difference. "you can't buy this" and "you can't sell this" both result in people not being able to buy it. Transactions take one buyer and one seller, so if you make one of those actions illegal the transaction stops happening. (at least, assuming it's enforced) No matter which side you criminalize *_both_* sides are stopped. By saying "kaspersky can't do business with people in the US" the government is either admittting "we know we can't actually enforce this even if we wanted to, but we're making the rule anyway" which ought to be illegal for a number of reasons not the least being that they wasted god knows how many tax payer dollars on something that they *_knew_* wouldn't have an effect, orrrrrr they do expect it to be enforcible and are actually going to be able to stop kaspersky from doing business in the US, in which case no US citizens will be able to buy and use a given piece of software because the government said so. Again, whether you stop the buyers or the sellers, you stop them both. What the government wants to put on it's own computers is it's own business, just like it's *_your_* own business what you want to put on *_your_* own computer. This glaring hypocrisy is a shining example of the faux-empowerment of shit like RtR where it acts like it's protecting the consumer while taking *_away_* choices on the premise that the consumer is too dumb to decide for themselves what they want. I mean this is literally, pound for pound, the *_exact_* same thing they did with tornado cash, yet for some reason it's getting a wildly different perception. If the government wants people to stop installing kaspersky then it can publish a report saying "hey dumbassess, stop installing kaspersky" and that report can either be convincing or it can not be. However, under absolutely no definition of the word is "fuck you, you do what I say whether you like it or not" 'empowering' the consumer. (and no, even if it's decided by a vote that doesn't solve the problem, that still means up to 49% of the people involved are being told "fuck you, you do what we say whether you like it or not" even when the actions don't actually affect them. Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny.)

[@KonstantinPopandopulo]

I really can't see how the gov. is gonna stop you from installing and using Kaspersky here. It is still available for download on the net.

[@BlueFox61]

I remember when RATting was a big thing, people operated websites to test your FUD without sending the hash to all of the companies. Good times

[@user92813]

still is a thing.

[@PracticalPcGuide]

Then NO-IP sent us to the stone age by deleting all accounts

[@monked86]

OG

[@1N73RC3P7OR]

The U.S. government banning Kaspersky is the best advert they can get, especially after they found a way to remove Pegasus.

[@CommanderRiker0]

The government telling me not to use it makes me want to use it.

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

"hello fellow citizens, dont do meth"

[@xenon6947]

@@Gigachad-mc5qz that’s why Chinese use WeChat to communicate within US with Huawei phone to launder money.

[@MrPir84free]

@@Gigachad-mc5qz Except the government certainly does not have any problem with opening the border and letting all sorts of drugs, diseases, and illegals run thru and welcoming them with open arms..

[@mickeyg7219]

The FBI also told you to install adblockers, I think you shouldn't use it.

[@CommanderRiker0]

@@mickeyg7219 unlike you I can use nuance. Think it through why the government has a vested interest in this one. Think hard. You can do it.

[@samvimes9510]

Yeah nah, this ain't about security

[@denisvolin7489]

Kaspersky nowadays has gone beyond the antivirus software. They have got secure hypervisor and a secure KasperskyOS. KOS is a closed source operating system, but it has community edition to play around. KOS mainly targeting IoT, but they implemented a thin client and this year a smartphone.

[@JBroMCMXCI]

Oh good, this means they'll soon ban Microsoft, Google, Apple, and Meta.

[@MajesticLawnGnome]

LOL exactly I am sticking with Kaspersky

[@qjdianenfjaiwk]

…..right?

[@contasfinalcontasfinal]

i hope they ban

[@tigers3748]

I'd be alright with that too, but foreign authoritarian governments are objectively worse.

[@ammarash5449]

Of course no, remember the requirement for tiktok to be staying? Be a US based company... a.k.a the spying data of our citizen belongs to our goverment, not other country :p

[@Maikolski]

If the current gov labels something as not good it might actually be good. That is the saddest thing about this I think.

[@goose4165]

yes, i think meth is good for us.

[@Maikolski]

@@goose4165 Pretty sure meth was a thing before Biden, and it's not related to anything said or implied in any way. Straw-men sure make one look stupid though, well done with that.

[@tbkswagg]

no he said that your thinking is too simplistic and not productive. If you just simply oppose everything your govt says that makes you a sheep * (-1), nothing better

[@Maikolski]

@@tbkswagg No, he literally said "yes, i think meth is good for us." Implying that my take is a bad or stupid one. While I said "might be good". I know that not seeing everything in black and white is hard but please don't be like goose and try to put words in people mouths or try to straw-men, just to get your point across, a point that once again no one talked about. Thanks.

[@tbkswagg]

@@Maikolski Yeah you have a point here of course, fair enough. Basically we talkin bout the same thing tho, to be honest the "might" and the nuance it has in the sentence went over my head kinda. :Dc

[@ImperativeGames]

It's about destination, not the journey. Yet another step to completely control what people know, how they think and so on.

[@kl0nos]

"Due to the risk that these products pose to US national security." WHAT?? LMAO

[@s1nistr433]

Land of the free

[@blu-blu-blu-blu]

Obviously some random dude's pc holds all of the us government's data

[@balsalmalberto8086]

National security known as government workers... you know the war with russia never ended

[@mallninja9805]

@@s1nistr433 Some restrictions may apply.

[@Rdfx-jk5ev]

Because they can detect US government sponsored spyware and remove it.

[@Atilolzz]

Kaspersky is too secure it seems

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

It could sniff out the NSA backdoors.

[@evilleader1991]

That's why I personally have it on my device, they've uncovered a lot of shady NSA viruses and backdoors in the past.

[@imgladnotu9527]

​@@TheSolidSnakeOilthe russkies could tell what glowed in the dark 😂😂😂😂

[@ImperativeGames]

No one likes competition. And you can just pay politicians to get rid of it.

[@dxb526]

This. Never switching from Kaspersky, especially now.

[@lordbarron3352]

If there's anything the gov hates, it's competition

[@Xiquinhodasilva99]

Free market right? Ahahah ban this this this and this ahahahha

[@HELLF1RE9]

Are you stupid? Every government protects its secrets and national security. Thats the whole point, if russia gets a strategic advantage over the US with this then they have failed at their job. Thats what they get paid to do, protect the nation

[@TP-yy3zx]

Is the US government using windows? They should worry about that much more than an antivirus.

[@TheFPSPower]

Microsoft has a lot of contracts with the US government, they don't have to worry about what they actively fund.

[@mickeyg7219]

For average government employees, they're using Windows as a front-end, but the deeper infrastructure are Linux.

[@p0t4toePotato]

still running that windows xp like there is no tomorrow

[@skidkid87]

The US government demands to see the source code of any software they run, they review the code and have their own version that they use, they're not buying retail versions

[@CsendesMark]

The goverment asked for those backdoor mate...

[@silver9062]

Out of all of the antiviruses I've used, Kaspersky was easily the best. Kaspersky is a threat to national security in the same way that TikTok, Rock N' Roll, Elvis shaking his hips, and Twisted Sister is a threat to national security. "Use national security as a reason to justify anything and the people will buy it."

[@Belarus2025F]

Покажите исходный код этого продукта

[@lmnk]

@@Belarus2025F покажите исходный код винды...

[@ThunderClawShocktrix]

tik tok is a threat cuase of the way its rotting teens brains

[@Mayhzon]

They are an influence zone / domain from a competitor to US Hegemony. That's the real answer.

[@Mark-12-31]

It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse. TikTok, Rock N' Roll, Elvis shaking his hips, and Twisted Sister do not wield the same power at the operating system level as antivirus software.

[@joshmonus]

I just love my totalitarian government. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy knowing they care about me and always knows what is best for me and will always keep me safe.

[@KasperskyFan2111]

Kaspersky isn't even based in Russia anymore lol its headquartered in Switzerland now

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Almost all Russian companies do that. Escape from Tarkov is developed by Russians but "headquartered" in London. Gaijin Entertainment also has offices outside Russia and Atomic Heart was developed by Russians with a shell company in Cyprus.

[@sesad5035]

​@@ChucksSEADnDEADThey do that to avoid taxes, right?

[@rwquote]

​@@sesad5035actually, yes, but not only

[@stunningandbased5516]

​@@sesad5035Basically avoiding sanctions and being at least on paper an EU-based company.

[@snintendog]

@@stunningandbased5516 Its literally to avoid the Democrats warmongers.

[@creato938]

I used to use Kaspersky until some months ago, it's a good Anti virus software and doesn't weigh too much while using, i understand they have Russian roots but as far as i know their main operations is in the UK now a days, that seems like a knee jerk reaction if you ask me.

[@789know]

If u look up the sanctions list,u will realise sometimes they don't really know that. They sanctioned a russian metro train maker bc it "helps building military hardware", but that branch was sold to another company like close to 20 years ago. The current company don't build a single military related chassis/train.

[@kokea4349]

The US is really pissed at Kaspersky for detecting their malware and providing means to counter it

[@xavi_6767]

They are banning Kasp because of their own gain. Not because of the security of the US citizens. Look at the EV industry for an example.

[@sugarpuddin]

Name one single thing the USA government did to benefit the people. I can't think of it. Including seatbelts and airbags

[@unconnectedbedna]

Seatbelts? Swedish Volvo said "you are welcome" to the 3-point belt and did not take any single penny in royalty for the invention, because it was invented to save lives. I agree with above, just one example.. Healthcare? Education? TAXATION? Since that country elected an orange nazi, absolutely nothing coming from that country is trustworthy to me. I used to think USA was the better evil, that has completely changed into "they are all evil", with USA being the most evil of them all since they managed to fool me for so many years.

[@PrimetimeX]

"NOOOO MUH CHINESEEEE EVS" shill.

[@bvs1q]

The best AV banned so the rest of the world doesn't get tipped off. Love it

[@tigers3748]

Cope

[@srgatasio]

@@tigers3748 WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN WITH COPE

[@izraphailzero5610]

because Kaspersky lab was working in Alabuga (area in Russia), where they were building military drones that are used as a weapon in Ukraine. Also it was confirmed by leaks from Alabuga that Kaspersky's engineers were not only building weapon and helping BANNED companies to avoid sanctions, but also were a source of intelligence for FSB and GRU (guys who're in charge of APT28 and APT29).

[@fireryfists]

@@izraphailzero5610I would like an explanation of how an antivirus company could ever be of any help in making drones???

[@scanman975]

​@@tigers3748L

[@darkkitchenrecords2625]

I worked in federal contracting in the US and to bid on most contracts you agree/sign that you cannot provide goods or services to the US govt if you use Kaspersky

[@repairman2be250]

Kaspersky has been outperforming many other in tests. US Gov should ban Microsoft!

[@jackharle1251]

Chinese, Israeli, Ukrainian software is ok? FJB

[@MrPir84free]

@@jackharle1251 How to get a like with 3 SIMPLE LETTERS .. FJB

[@repairman2be250]

@@MrPir84free And those letters mean what?

[@rashidisw]

@@repairman2be250 Let's Go, Brandon!

[@NightmareRex6]

the windows defender is atualy listed as "good antivirus" BULL@ASDSDA!, it has deleted and fouind ZERO viruses!, ALL it has EVER done is delete false positives! and it likes to do it automaticaly just destroy them not give you chance to ask or proper quantine!

[@Master-ng9uj]

Kaspersky was top of the charts amongst AVs since ages ago. It wasn't really until the war that everyone started having a moan about it. Thankfully I'm not American. I'll keep using it.

[@ERECTED_MONUMENT]

The only virus I caught with kaspersky is when I got an activator for it (this was before they had a free version) and clicked the wrong link. I wasn't even mad, it was a funny L.

[@SkylineFTW97]

With VPNs being what they are, what's to stop someone from just downloading it from an IP address in another country? Or hell, what's to stop Kaspersky from just continuing to take money from US clients? Not something that can be easily enforced, or at least not through ways that wouldn't have holes in them large enough to drive a bus through.

[@Elytrii]

I ban all comments other than mine

[@Moose265]

thats how democracy works 👀

[@TechHowden]

@@Moose265 you've clearly been banned, you can't say that. /s

[@stevebabiak6997]

You are 100% qualified to be a KZbin content moderator

[@YumiiSauce]

This comment is awaiting approval from the Elytr1 Administration.

[@j.21]

at least this is a reply not a comment /unbanned

[@sannyman13]

The ban of kaspersky may be related to accusations that the company was involved in the development of the neural networks for the russia's military drones. There is an article on InformNapalm about that.

[@Dave102693]

Probably so

[@ishtarcephei5054]

Thanks for that! Seems a very interesting outlet!

[@hyoenmadan]

That explains why they are so good detecting the glow doors and viruses. They even do neural networks for damn drones... Programming an antivirus for them should be a piece of cake.

[@brostoevsky22]

American companies would do and do the same for the US government. It's all so hypocritical and exhaustively obnoxious these days. Scare the boomers with the Russian "Boogeyman".

[@kyberite]

And there we have it, the missing link everyone speculates about in the comments on every video pertaining to the issue.

[@sergeantsapient]

I don't even use Kaspersky but now I want to because fuck the fed.

[@yellowked]

There is a saying in Russia, "I'm going to freeze my ears off to spite my grandma" That's what you're suggesting basically

[@UmitSeyhan75]

@@AcademiaFeraz "threat"

[@bsherman8236]

Best antivirus imo, really safe too, i never got caught

[@SaanMigwell]

I mean unless you are an enterprise you really don't need anything except what comes native with windows. If you do you need security, you aren't using windows, and most likely have built your own IPS/IDS.

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

​@@yellowkedNow I'm gonna do it even harder.

[@icgaming4508]

The fact that mcafee isn't the one being looked at shows that they don't care.

[@WAThomasRKH]

For american users, i would say that Kaspersky is superior option. There is not that much threat from Russia, but big threat from US government.

[@monisrajput8056]

If Is this spyware, then please tell me what was recall

[@PvtAnonymous]

it's a "feature" of course

[@ownmicelio]

There is something weird here...

[@masExz]

spyware but not by russians so its ok

[@monisrajput8056]

@@masExz hahaha, Do you know. what extreme thing us did They even bombed a guy

[@TommyCrosby]

'MURIAN keylogger, I guess?

[@Rood67]

Their Rescue CD (iso) was the thing to use years ago. I saved plenty of machines running the scan outside of the Windows malware system. Wish I had gotten an updated version prior to this.

[@othonkamariotis]

Kaspersky is the best antivirus software out there...If you can't compete...you ban...

[@Mark-12-31]

It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse. So, I blame Putin.

[@othonkamariotis]

@@Mark-12-31 you should blame the ass that you voted for

[@boltez6507]

They should ban the hell of a drug i.e. tik tok instead of targeting software that doesn't have proven grounds to be considered a malware.

[@mrrooter601]

how about we dont ban anything? when did the government suddenly get to decide what software we are allowed to use????

[@mc5967]

They shouldn't ban tiktok either

[@boltez6507]

@@mc5967 Tbh, they should regulate/influence the recommendation algorithm instead just like in China (Expect the part where they spread their political agenda with it),it makes complete sense,it would just lead to the youth being more productive and senseful from early on rather than the complete contrasting nature of present day social media which raises screen hooked zombies.

[@alexisreal]

​@@boltez6507Didnt they force tiktok to be sold to us company or get banned though?

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@alexisreal Biden revoked that a long time ago. They claim to have restored that with the foreign aid package to Ukraine that happened this spring, but in reality it is just Tiktok is going to be transferring from one Chinese owned company to another, just with a democrat funder as a man in the middle controlling the US portion of TikTok. Back during Trump a lot of states did ban tiktok from government devices which doesn't change.

[@darkcck]

I no longer use anti-viruses BUT when i did Kaspersky used be my go to anti-virus software there was no competition at all in the market imo. Dunno about nowadays but is still think it's true. And if in the future i would have to setup an anti-virus software for a client or for own company i will always advise Kaspersky. Europe hasn't banned it yet so we're good for now.

[@VicharB]

Have been using it for years (PC, laptop, smartphone) and will continue to use it. Awesome protection, system optimised (low memory usage, high performance, etc) and very acceptable pricing compared to competitors.

[@Archimedeeez]

AI waifu wake up! Mental Outlaw just dropped another vid!!

[@akam9919]

The government should have no right to determine what can and cannot be on your system.

[@brandonwombacher2559]

The government will do whatever it feels like, get used to it.

[@sesad5035]

This sounds like someone who's addicted to CP.

[@xXLesterGamingXx]

Sounds very wrong taken out of context

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

@@brandonwombacher2559 someones a bootlicking cuck

[@andrewk.7498]

​@@sesad5035cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck

[@llVIU]

it's funny how the government, as always, fails to show you what these so-called "risks" are. You just have to trust the government and take their word for it

[@cjthebeesknees]

I like how we’re enslaved in various conceptual ways but not in the traditional shackles way.. yet, guess we gotta be broken, disenfranchised, isolated, and surveilled in a myriad of ways before we feel that cold iron of shackles across our feet.

[@mrotss]

dont worry we will feel the shackles soon enough!

[@drdca8263]

What would be the use of such literal shackles? Residents are more able to do work if they can move about more easily. Whatever restrictions you want to put on the general populace’s movement would be better achieved through a combination of walls, surveillance, and people with guns. Literal shackles would only be useful in weird edge-cases I think. Also, I think I’ve heard that pure slavery just isn’t economically efficient? You get better profits by granting some amount of choice, and the right incentives. You want to use a bit of carrot, not just the stick. One issue with just using the stick, is it is infeasible to determine whether or not someone is working as hard as they semi-sustainably can. And, if they are, and you guess that they aren’t, and use the stick, this is likely to diminish their capacity for work? So, you can get more work out of people by giving them positive incentives to produce results, rather than to just appear to not be slacking off. And, there’s not much point in restricting things arbitrarily? Makes more sense to restrict specifically those things which (either is likely to cause an *actual* problem (not *just* a problem for those in power), or) is more likely to lead to a potential threat to your power. Not to suggest that “people trying to clutch at greater power over the populace doesn’t significantly decrease quality of life” or anything like that. Of course it does. But, literal shackles, seem preeetttyy unlikely.

[@theyellowarchitect4504]

No need for iron shackles, serfs and slaves didn't work as efficiently as now. That said, 2nd amendment if it does happen (FEMA) Until then, try to do your best, even a single person can make a difference in influencing others. You are only broken/disenfranchised/isolated/surveilled in the internet. Real life is different.

[@versy187]

THE LAND OF THE FREE

[@fkcombustion]

Everyone’s losing freedoms globally bro, I wouldn’t be laughing at anyone

[@Blue2x2x]

@@fkcombustion Nah, US people cheered when they trade in their freedoms to ban TikTok because "Security". This is just government's duty to keep people "safe". So, LOLZ.

[@versy187]

@@fkcombustion of course, but most countries don't claim to be the epitome of freedom

[@sugarpuddin]

Why would anyone stay in the USA? It's expensive, predatory, angry, predatory, dangerous, sociopathic, narcissistic, gluttonous, drugged I voted with my feet and left the USA for good. Best decision of my life!

[@mickeyg7219]

It never was.

[@iovimaledico]

That's a good reason to buy kaspersky!

[@Amp1771]

What the heck. They're were the best value and overall best anti-virus software.

[@IsmailofeRegime]

I'd say NOD32 is better, but I'm also one of those "Windows Defender is probably good enough AV for ordinary Internet needs" guys.

[@crusaderACR]

​@@IsmailofeRegime Windows Defender is American spyware. I'd rather be spied on by Russians than by gringos. One is far, far away, never did me any harm, never invaded my country, never banrukpted or bought out my country's companies, never meddled in my nation's diplomacy & self-rule, and the other is the United States of America.

[@imgladnotu9527]

​@@IsmailofeRegimeas a, i dont use any AV's and rely upon good system monitoring tools guy, i'd say both kaspersky and eset have been trading blows for quite some time, but in my personal experience before i just relied on my own tools, i'd say kaspersky edges out by a small margin.

[@prezentoappr1171]

​@@imgladnotu9527 Care to share the tools names? I'm really interest. To many posts in reddit r antivirus I can't find definitive answer

[@GFunkEra1992]

Ah the US gov can't crack Kaspersky. Guess who's going to be a loyal customer to them.

[@Mark-12-31]

Iran, North Korea... all those humanity-loving countries?

[@circaen]

Stuff like this should scare the hell out of people.

[@RandomVenezuelan]

OpenAI Ban soon then?

[@zzz12466]

@Based_Gigachad_001 Yeah it's US spyware instead, what you like

[@potatoplayer420]

So is my Kaspersky just not gonna work now?

[@BarafuAlbino]

Probably, your ISP will block its updates, so you will need a VPN with foreign server to do updates. Of course, AV is only good when it can update hourly, so you either keep this VPN on at all times. Alternatively, if you can, rent a VPS in Switzerland, and run an SSH tunnel to it: SSH tunnel works like a proxy, and is used only by the programms that were configured to use it.

[@theinfinitynerd4954]

@@BarafuAlbinoGood thing Kaspersky has a VPN, which mean's it's self sustaining 😂

[@someidiot4311]

ISP blocking stuff is dystopian

[@dodo-fn3yj]

Thanks for the info, I'm going to extend my Kaspersky license for 3 of my devices

[@Mark-12-31]

Comments like these appear so fake. I guess in a tyranny like Russia, creativity is one of the first things to go. (😁Kaspersky excluded)

[@gulskjegg-x]

I've been using Kaspersky since the late 1990's and it has never let me down. At this point I would consider a ban by the American government as a badge of honor.

[@PeeGoblin-jg6tu]

Every time a goverment does something stupid, it reflects on it's citizens too. I hate it when my government saids it's my way or the highway when bans spyware.

[@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074]

I would trust Kaspersky far more than I would trust American corporations. What does Kaspersky have to gain by accessing your computer?

[@PavewayIII-gbu24]

Freedom™

[@JorgeLopez-qj8pu]

Team America: "Freedom is the only way"

[@norger]

"Freedom" is just a misnomer for controlled crony capitalism

[@RT-qd8yl]

So what should one be using as a simple and easy *free* AV for general home use?

[@johnratfink7343]

You don't need one.

[@chernobyl169]

Windows Defender. For Linux, you don't need one. Seriously. Do not use third party anti-virus. They cause problems and do not offer genuine solutions beyond what your computer has built in.

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

Windows defender, Dont trust third party,. Virustotal is good if you wanna do a quick URL search for links and files

[@j-twd930]

Your brain.

[@purplehvh]

Microsoft defender is perfectly fine. Maybe some years ago it would be wise to get a 3rd party AV but in recent times Microsoft defender works great, Microsoft defender paired with commonsense is all you should really need.

[@Technology24]

I decided long time ago to never use an antivirus on all my computers because I noticed that the computers where I had these things installed were getting more infected by viruses than those who didn't have on the network

[@VG-or1nu]

I hope the Government decision is futile in deciding individual people’s decisions

[@dr-rexmangrca113]

You were where last 5 years!!!?? They sucked the useless people you get bioweapones in bodies.. Many are dead or disable

[@zchen27]

I mean would be trivial to start handing out national security charges to Kaspersky users. Targeted harassment usually works if you are a government or corporation and can just drag it out.

[@dr-rexmangrca113]

@@zchen27 great way to fill private jails and limit gi Guns ownership.. Plus tax the hell of out useless eaters.. Plus create more profits for lawyers and bondmen

[@mickeyg7219]

No, but the banks can be pressured to stop doing businesses with the sanctioned company. Your credit/debit cards will refuse to process the transaction, assuming the company themselves didn't take down their ability to let you buy when you browse from a certain country address in the first place.

[@lenOwOo]

United states is firm believer of free market. . When it's convenient

[@levvayner4509]

I would be surprised if the 0-day exploits (4 of them!) used in stuxnet didn't come from our gov't