The US Bans Kaspersky

In this video I discuss the US Department of Commerce decision to ban Kaspersky and all of it's companies products and services in the United States.
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[@mike_diz]

Only USA spyware is allowed on your computer 👿😡🤬

[@_xX_me_Xx_]

Made in the USA 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@no_name4796]

My computer runs a finnish operating system. Beat that CIA!

[@kevina.4036]

People freak about TikTok... you don't think Instagram is equally invasive if not worse?

[@_xX_me_Xx_]

@@kevina.4036 yeah, but TikTok's parent company is chinese, and by the logic of many US government officials, that means it is undeniably spyware designed to milk the american consumer of all of their data.

[@JorgeLopez-qj8pu]

🥰As it should be🥰

[@zeldera]

Kaspersky notifies me every time microsoft edge want's to use my webcam when I don't even use microsoft edge

[@JackDoingStuff]

That's incredible. 😅

[@RustedCroaker]

I need to install Kaspersky right now

[@Mark-12-31]

Some Microsoft Edge services run in the background.

[@jquad3659]

Windows is malware

[@anandnairkollam]

Edge is always working in the background if you have windows

[@GamingPenguinEnthusiast]

I remember US banning a firewall in the 90s as it refused to offer backdoor to their secret agencies. This sounds like similar case.

[@zachb1706]

Maybe. Kaspersky has been banned in government departments for years though. I mean having a Russian anti-virus software on your device whilst you’re pseudo at war is a national security issue

[@GamingPenguinEnthusiast]

@@zachb1706 I find it cringe to act like that in a multicultural countries like the US. There must be hundreds of Russians, Chinese, Koreans etc working in these agencies at this very moment.

[@prezentoappr1171]

​@LinusKubuntus yeah true Werner contributed to NASA for example after the debacle of the wahr to end all wahr 2.0 boogaloo

[@prezentoappr1171]

​@@GamingPenguinEnthusiast Bruh the tag didn't work sorry ^

[@lc9245]

@@GamingPenguinEnthusiastyep, there’s a case of 2 US Navy service men were found to be spying for China. Sure, they can ban all other ethnicities from serving some functions in the US military, but spies are always a risk. Them arbitrary ban all of Kaspersky has feeble reasoning at best. They are basing this entirely on “risk”, there had been no concrete proof Kaspersky was involved in “spying”. Can’t say the same for others. Next, they should consider banning all of Chinese made video games, software in the US for the same reason, like with Tik Tok, at this rate. It’s probable that security was used as an excuse to enact economic protectionism, among myriads of other conveniences.

[@bigsussyopsec]

Translation: "they didn't allow us to put our own back doors "

[@PiterburgCowboy]

They really accuse everyone else of the things they are doing. A US-General joined the board of OpenAI btw,. You know, the thing that will monitor your Windows and Iphone activities natively soon using your own computing power.

[@RoofusRoof19]

Takes a spy to know a spy

[@CCherriosful]

I already have ten apps on the App Store so I don’t care man

[@rarerx]

I’d rather be spied on by my government than russians

[@SebastianRoczz]

openai dosent make all the ai and i dont think they did the windows one

[@UNcommonSenseAUS]

​@@CCherriosfullulz

[@brentkeller3826]

When the FBI went to the antivirus companies and asked to have FBI backdoors allowed on their products, only two companies told them to pound sand. One was Kaspersky, the other was McAffee.

[@305Nick]

yep and we know what they did to McAffee

[@brentkeller3826]

@@305Nick Yes, and it was pretty blatant too.

[@NightmareRex6]

and assume mcAfee nolonger the case for long and was part why he was offed, also probbaly for his bitcoin stash, idk why tho those things are so easily hacked ofton just need this recovery phrase that i KNOW peaople have guessed alot of times becuase i had 15$ bitcoin vanish and my recovery phrase dose NOT work, so meaning the company randomly stole it, or hacker got it and changed it! so it certainly was NOT the bitcoin the primary reason.

[@meghanachauhan9380]

Why don't Americans pass legislation to prosecute cia instead of just laughing about their horseshit. What happened to your self respect?

[@brentkeller3826]

@@meghanachauhan9380 You see the crap our government did to the J6 protestors? People need to get more riled up before that treatment no longer scares them. And remember, during the 2020 summer of love, 2 billion in damages by blm and antifa, nobody in jail for twenty years.

[@clothstrangler]

It must be the Russian thing about spying on us and nothing to do with Kaspersky revealing a new way to detect Pegasus spyware….

[@tactknightgaming2066]

Oy. Vey...

[@berthold64]

SHUT UP. STOP HECCIN NOTICING

[@tigers3748]

Please. Russia probably deploys Pegasus in their own systems owing to how close to Israel they are geopolitically. USA isn't the only country exposed to their duplicity.

[@hotrodjones74]

Israel compared Russia to Hamas recently, effectively calling them terrorists. Israel stands with Ukraine. Just like their Ukie brethren I hope their government falls. Everything always goes back to Israel. It's a spoiled brat of a nation playing God that needs to eat a massive slice of humble pie.

[@some_name]

russia is all about terror

[@portalpuppy31]

The fact they're banning Kaspersky is ridiculous, especially when Kaspersky can detect malware that even Bitdefender cannot find.

[@abeytoby1900]

As a Kaspersky user i can confirm that it is the best in the market.

[@motorizedlifting2534]

@@abeytoby1900 Eset Nod32 is the best

[@Mavendow]

BD was good. Back in the day it shut down my PC rather than let the malware continue, because it could not stop it. But not anymore. Now it's still effective, but slow, and it messes with the NTFS file journal. I had so many NTFS issues until uninstalling it.

[@NightmareRex6]

and kaspersky only one that dosent mark cracks and keygens and other usefull archive files as "viruses"! (falase positives) and lots the anti malware just effing AUTOMATICALY DELETES the files! without asking to check it first and meany dont have a proper quantine!, unless ofcourse the keygen/crack IS also a trojan which then it will mark.

[@xeqqail3546]

@@NightmareRex6 Yeah kaspersky is very good at not f*cking up false positive. It does behavioral checks (ey yo this programs only search and add some arbitrary key on my register to be used in a perfectly fine software. It's all good unless it tries to overwrite or delete files. I will also observe the software and see if the arbitrary key does something funny. All good bro :) ). Other AV on the other hand .. (YO YO THIS SHIT FILENAME IS "KEYGEN" IT MUST BE VVIRUS NO JOKE 100% BRO YOU GONNA GET HACKED BRO I WILL PERMA DELETE THIS NOW .. hell yeah its all good now you are safe with us :) ).

[@west221b]

CIA doesn't like competition As a former gov't employee, I used security products to protect my computers from government systems, not the other way around.

[@90Degrees_]

What security do you use? I use malwarebytes, is that good?

[@west221b]

@@90Degrees_ I've used the free version (I never, ever pay for antimalware) in the past for manual scans and remediation. I use F-Secure (provided by my ISP), which is good, doesn't do false-positives and is performant (most important to me; I'm not really concerned about malware--I don't go clicking on stuff I don't know what it is for certain, which is the best antimalware anyone can have).

[@amritlohia8240]

@@90Degrees_ Malwarebytes is OK, but its signatures are not that great, so it relies heavily on machine learning and advanced heuristics, which can produce more false positives than other products.

[@cam_934]

When the US wants to ban an AV then you know its likely one of the best AV's to get as all those 3 letter US agencies get upset when the company doesn't build in backdoors for them.

[@bixi]

Nah, this one is just a russian spyware that works with russian government together on drone and ai projects related to drones.

[@jer1776]

If the government wants to do something based, they should ban kernel level anti cheats. So many video game companies partially or fully owned by Tencent use them.

[@JorgeLopez-qj8pu]

Then how will companies access it? No, just band Tencent like TikTok

[@TerrorSyxke]

That's why many games can't run linux, anti cheats

[@minuteworld7027]

they should ban denuvo as well

[@Dontstopbelievingman]

Would you rather just play against cheats all day long? Or do you know a better way of preventing little boys from destroying everyone's gaming experience?

[@HontoNeet]

​@@Dontstopbelievingman Human beings who are experienced in the games in question can easily detect cheats just by spectating the offender, I assure you it doesn't require a rootkit (malware)

[@yukitakaoni007]

Ok. I’m sold. This is the best Kaspersky advertisement. I’ll continue using Kaspersky.

[@CoderSal-XIII]

It will no longer be available for download in the US for PC, macOS, Android, or iOS. It is also going to be severely limited in functionality starting from September 10th through September 29th. I'm reading about it as I watch this video and write this.

[@yukitakaoni007]

@@CoderSal-XIII got it, thanks for the heads up

[@JuanxDlol]

Kaspersky discovers a way to detect and remove Pegasus. US bans Kaspersky hm...

[@JackSack-w5h]

Amnesty International had already devised a method to detect Pegasus, years ago, called mvt. Pegasus isn't some big boogeyman mystery that you can't detect

[@sharoyveduchi]

@@JackSack-w5h what kind of monkey username is that? Are you some paid shill?

[@hanelyp1]

@@JackSack-w5h I totally do not trust amnesty international. Perhaps if their method were released as open source subject to inspection.

[@JackSack-w5h]

​@@hanelyp1it... WAS released as open-source onto GitHub. I don't get it. You couldn't even bother googling "Amnesty International MVT"?

[@sansmoraxz]

I think the backdoors they discovered and reported on Apple devices is far more important. Wonder who put that. 🤔

[@pimactv9778]

As an IT technician I use to submit malware samples and use things like VirusTotal to compare vendors and Kasperspy has always had a superior detection rate, and superiour heuristics for catching things that were not detected or reported in a global database.

[@GarfieldRex]

Government dedicated to the use of hacking software bans company dedicated to hacking prevention.

[@Omi-han]

Cold war never ended between us really

[@tigers3748]

Cope

[@UID574]

Kaspersky was already banned for Federal use or by federal contractors for about ten years because actual incidents that occurred through the software. The cyber landscape has changed a lot and will be used to gather Intel on the military directly or indirectly along with other critical systems across the us including consumer systems.

[@dr-rexmangrca113]

​@@UID574yep it prevent the government from spying on it useless workers

[@pavementstoneguy]

Kaspersky is honestly REALLY good. Saved me a couple times when using Limewire. Worth every penny

[@BigChimpEnergy]

I can understand it being banned as far as government employees' devices go, because that's a matter of "national security", but to go after Kaspersky nationwide is ridiculous.

[@IFD2]

I agree Kaspersky is actually great!

[@blablableep6811]

Tik Tok changed the Status Quo

[@tc_kommark]

facts

[@ryanthomasyee]

P

[@ryanthomasyee]

Pp

[@KillianTwew]

As a kid I thought it was Casper sky. Like Casper the friendly ghost, in the sky.

[@ASBO_LUTELY]

That's what I've always assumed, even up until hearing this guys strange pronunciation.

[@kinnikuzero]

Same, I've never heard anyone pronounce it the other way till now

[@kacperkonieczny7333]

Explanation: cause it is a Slavic last name that originates from "child of Kasper"

[@mikhailryzhov9419]

There was a reasonably well known security researcher under alias Chris Kasperski (no relation to Evgenii), confused a lot of people. He actually had chosen his alias because of the friendly ghost.

[@NightmareRex6]

when i was a kid i thught the 90s dialup sound was saying "james james james eeerrrt james james eeeerrrrrrrt james james" and that "james" was the inventor of the internet.

[@LastDitchHero]

Kaspersky lab got the blacklist because weren't they ones who posted all the Intel management engine "unlisted" commands.

[@rusi6219]

Haha so the feds can commission intel CPUs without the ME but if a researcher gives the consumers an option to disable it they get blacklisted roflmaoooo

[@LastDitchHero]

@rusi6219 I'm sure the Russian connection was a big one but they were blacklisted 3 days after releasing that research.

[@chilbiyito]

Where?

[@YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments]

RISC is the only future free of hardware backdoors

[@smallcube-zn2mm]

Where is was published?

[@KrunoslavStifter]

Getting rid of competition under national security. The oldest trick in the book.

[@WillOfFiree]

We are here to help

[@KrunoslavStifter]

@@WillOfFiree Scariest words. We are from the goverment and we are here to help.

[@321Jarn]

​@@KrunoslavStifter for real, everything the government does that "helps" is actually harming people.

[@interstellarobesity]

Ok "Krunoslav" lol

[@asmyself4021]

ruzzia is literally at war.

[@FielValeryRTS]

The fact that US banned Kaspersky convinced me to use the antivirus more than any other. 😂

[@Mark-12-31]

Comments like these appear so fake. I guess in a tyranny like Russia, creativity is one of the first things to go.

[@ragnakak]

Why do I feel like I’ve heard this story five times over the last decade or so

[@Molya]

There is an article on Wikipedia called "Kaspersky bans and allegations of Russian government ties"

[@br.3250]

Those are rookie numbers

[@d47rk]

US Bans Kaspersky, people uses Kaspersky more.

[@Mark-12-31]

Not really. It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse. Blame Putin.

[@mrnickname850]

If the US government doesn't like it, it must be really good.

[@pyrielrising4338]

Wasn't it engineers at Kaspersky that outed Israel and Stuxnet? It's possible this has been a long time coming.

[@mattlebutter9162]

Check out StripedFly recently...

[@desmond-hawkins]

No. Stuxnet was originally discovered by Sergey Ulasen, a researcher at the Belarussian company *VirusBlokAda* which makes the VBA32 antivirus. Kaspersky Lab did contribute to the analysis, but so did many others. Ulasen was already on it by mid-June 2010, while Kaspersky Lab only learned about Stuxnet from Microsoft in early July. See the article titled "A Declaration of Cyber-War" for a detailed timeline.

[@mattlebutter9162]

Kaspersky recently found the triangulation one on Apple and stripedFly, so yes, the NSA has reasons to be pissed.

[@heyhoe168]

@@mattlebutter9162 I mean NSA has reasons against any solid antivirus tool, they cant ban them all. This ban, however, is simply a part of preparation to WW3, I guess.

[@PrimetimeX]

"Israel bad" crowd crawling all over the comments

[@MicahThomason]

I used to use Kaspersky back in the day when viruses were an actual problem. They saved my machine more than once.

[@potatoplayer420]

Are viruses somehow not a problem now?

[@brimstoner982]

​@@potatoplayer420 Not if you're smart about what you're downloading.

[@tyxyerfyyzxynm4259]

​​@@potatoplayer420well theres windows defender its free and its pretty decent plus people are more educated now

[@potatoplayer420]

@@brimstoner982 But im dumb af and don't know what to trust 🤣

[@impersonator4439]

Same. Back around 2008 I had a virus that only Kaspersky could remove. It also protected Windows exceptionally well back then. Now Windows is spyware so.

[@samvimes9510]

Yeah nah, this ain't about security

[@ashade2877]

All antivirus can be categorized as Spyware. Any software that has the ability to send information to a remote sevrer can be classified as a spyware. IT is just a matter of who you prefer having access.

[@Channel-qe5pk]

Serious question, if we're going down this road, why not just tell Americans that they cannot run any proprietary code on their devices that originates from Russia? What makes Kaspersky any more of a threat than any other Russian dev???

[@CCherriosful]

As a developer myself I support America saying no to other countries bullshit software.

[@SHERMA.]

serious answer. this is not the same as stealing someone github code for your pokemon game this is an actively running program on millions of devices around the world and 1:11 says it better than i could. its about the POTENTIAL of it being used maliciously

[@IFD2]

@@CCherriosfulthis I supposed to be a Free country so this goes against that

[@IFD2]

@@SHERMA. it’s fear there’s no actual proof or evidence that they are doing anything wrong. The whole point of this country is to literally be innocent until proven guilty. They should’ve took Kaspersky to court. Our government keeps overstepping their boundaries.

[@Channel-qe5pk]

@@CCherriosful As an American myself, I say the software that Americans choose to run on their personal devices is none of your business.

[@romancvijanovic7130]

Yes, the US Gov definitely cares about their citizens. Definitely!

[@Mark-12-31]

It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse. Putin is to blame.

[@Atilolzz]

Kaspersky is too secure it seems

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

It could sniff out the NSA backdoors.

[@evilleader1991]

That's why I personally have it on my device, they've uncovered a lot of shady NSA viruses and backdoors in the past.

[@imgladnotu9527]

​@@TheSolidSnakeOilthe russkies could tell what glowed in the dark 😂😂😂😂

[@ImperativeGames]

No one likes competition. And you can just pay politicians to get rid of it.

[@dxb526]

This. Never switching from Kaspersky, especially now.

[@1N73RC3P7OR]

The U.S. government banning Kaspersky is the best advert they can get, especially after they found a way to remove Pegasus.

[@kspillane]

Ha! I worked for geek squad from 2008-2013. I always pushed Kaspersky because it worked, and their AVZ took could actually repair damage caused by malware. Best but sold so much Kaspersky, I think in 2012ish Eugene Kaspersky himself gave a speech at Best Buy corporate thanking everyone for their support. I plan to keep using it for removals, I am sure this won't hold up in the courts.

[@mrotss]

itll hold up in the courts because of people like “clearance” thomas and the judge in the young thug trial. the us justice system doesnt work

[@robonator2945]

better question, why the hell is the topic of conversation not "why is the government telling you what software you're allowed to install on your computer". Who gives a fuck what their intentions are, this is not something that governments have a right to regulate. People will go on and on about how "buying isn't owning anymore" because they willingly buy devices that are locked down, yet a politican knocks on their door and tells them what software they're allowed to have whether they like it or not and that's okay? So a customer willingly buying a locked down device is a no-no, but politicians deciding what software you're allowed to put on that device whether the end user likes it or not is fine and dandy?

[@sampletext9426]

Americans are raised like cattle... which unfortunately the rest of the world's government are imitating that...

[@thepureheartofdark]

Though I agree, you have to take into account the current situation between the US and Russia. Then add the fact that Karspersky is being used by multiple companies within the US for all their information systems and given that most Antivirus nowadays work on the Kernel (highest access a program can have in a computer). I highly doubt this ban is aimed at individuals. I think the government is aiming to curb Karspersky use in large companies, due to the risk it might be used by current Russia to suddenly down part of the economy.

[@Magus12000BC]

In this case, the government isn't telling you what you can install on your computer. The government is telling the company that they can't sell to you. That sounds like a non difference, but it really isn't. Kaspersky wouldn't know that you were American if you purchased it through a VPN with foreign currency. And no feds are going to knock on your door for doing that. The liability lies with the company, not with you.

[@robonator2945]

​@@Magus12000BC "you can't do this" is telling you what you can and can't do. It sounds like a non-difference because it *_is_* a non-difference, they are literally one and the same. If the government says "you are *_not_* allowed to have sex with anyone of the same sex as yourself" that is just as infringing as "you are *_only_* allowed to have sex with someone of the oopposite sex to yourself. I'm assuming the point you are trying to say is that "it's not making it illegal to install it, it's making it illegal for kaspersky to do business with people in the US!" but *_that_* is a *_actually_* a distinction without a difference. "you can't buy this" and "you can't sell this" both result in people not being able to buy it. Transactions take one buyer and one seller, so if you make one of those actions illegal the transaction stops happening. (at least, assuming it's enforced) No matter which side you criminalize *_both_* sides are stopped. By saying "kaspersky can't do business with people in the US" the government is either admittting "we know we can't actually enforce this even if we wanted to, but we're making the rule anyway" which ought to be illegal for a number of reasons not the least being that they wasted god knows how many tax payer dollars on something that they *_knew_* wouldn't have an effect, orrrrrr they do expect it to be enforcible and are actually going to be able to stop kaspersky from doing business in the US, in which case no US citizens will be able to buy and use a given piece of software because the government said so. Again, whether you stop the buyers or the sellers, you stop them both. What the government wants to put on it's own computers is it's own business, just like it's *_your_* own business what you want to put on *_your_* own computer. This glaring hypocrisy is a shining example of the faux-empowerment of shit like RtR where it acts like it's protecting the consumer while taking *_away_* choices on the premise that the consumer is too dumb to decide for themselves what they want. I mean this is literally, pound for pound, the *_exact_* same thing they did with tornado cash, yet for some reason it's getting a wildly different perception. If the government wants people to stop installing kaspersky then it can publish a report saying "hey dumbassess, stop installing kaspersky" and that report can either be convincing or it can not be. However, under absolutely no definition of the word is "fuck you, you do what I say whether you like it or not" 'empowering' the consumer. (and no, even if it's decided by a vote that doesn't solve the problem, that still means up to 49% of the people involved are being told "fuck you, you do what we say whether you like it or not" even when the actions don't actually affect them. Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny.)

[@yesway]

I really can't see how the gov. is gonna stop you from installing and using Kaspersky here. It is still available for download on the net.

[@lordbarron3352]

If there's anything the gov hates, it's competition

[@Xiquinhodasilva99]

Free market right? Ahahah ban this this this and this ahahahha

[@HELLF1RE9]

Are you stupid? Every government protects its secrets and national security. Thats the whole point, if russia gets a strategic advantage over the US with this then they have failed at their job. Thats what they get paid to do, protect the nation

[@milk_yt]

Honestly I don't use it, but I still had some "respect" towards it because it's actually an antivirus that works and is not just some adware like most proprietary software out there. For that matter, even their free version that there was back then (I don't know if it's still around) didn't have any ads, not even advertisement for their paid version. It's clear that they had at least some respect for what they were doing.

[@denisvolin7489]

Kaspersky nowadays has gone beyond the antivirus software. They have got secure hypervisor and a secure KasperskyOS. KOS is a closed source operating system, but it has community edition to play around. KOS mainly targeting IoT, but they implemented a thin client and this year a smartphone.

[@CommanderRiker0]

The government telling me not to use it makes me want to use it.

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

"hello fellow citizens, dont do meth"

[@xenon6947]

@@Gigachad-mc5qz that’s why Chinese use WeChat to communicate within US with Huawei phone to launder money.

[@MrPir84free]

@@Gigachad-mc5qz Except the government certainly does not have any problem with opening the border and letting all sorts of drugs, diseases, and illegals run thru and welcoming them with open arms..

[@mickeyg7219]

The FBI also told you to install adblockers, I think you shouldn't use it.

[@CommanderRiker0]

@@mickeyg7219 unlike you I can use nuance. Think it through why the government has a vested interest in this one. Think hard. You can do it.

[@xavi_6767]

They are banning Kasp because of their own gain. Not because of the security of the US citizens. Look at the EV industry for an example.

[@sugarpuddin]

Name one single thing the USA government did to benefit the people. I can't think of it. Including seatbelts and airbags

[@marcusjohansson668]

Seatbelts? Swedish Volvo said "you are welcome" to the 3-point belt and did not take any single penny in royalty for the invention, because it was invented to save lives. I agree with above, just one example.. Healthcare? Education? TAXATION? Since that country elected an orange nazi, absolutely nothing coming from that country is trustworthy to me. I used to think USA was the better evil, that has completely changed into "they are all evil", with USA being the most evil of them all since they managed to fool me for so many years.

[@PrimetimeX]

"NOOOO MUH CHINESEEEE EVS" shill.

[@Sawta]

It's a considerable concern as far as how badly this will impact future research. Security research is one of those things that's meant to transcend national boundaries for a net benefit to everyone involved. I hate the idea of that information getting locked down based on citizenship.

[@JBroMCMXCI]

Oh good, this means they'll soon ban Microsoft, Google, Apple, and Meta.

[@Josh-py9rq]

LOL exactly I am sticking with Kaspersky

[@qjdianenfjaiwk]

…..right?

[@contasfinalcontasfinal]

i hope they ban

[@tigers3748]

I'd be alright with that too, but foreign authoritarian governments are objectively worse.

[@ammarash5449]

Of course no, remember the requirement for tiktok to be staying? Be a US based company... a.k.a the spying data of our citizen belongs to our goverment, not other country :p

[@kokea4349]

The US is really pissed at Kaspersky for detecting their malware and providing means to counter it

[@kl0nos]

"Due to the risk that these products pose to US national security." WHAT?? LMAO

[@s1nistr433]

Land of the free

[@TheColorOrang]

Obviously some random dude's pc holds all of the us government's data

[@balsalmalberto8086]

National security known as government workers... you know the war with russia never ended

[@mallninja9805]

@@s1nistr433 Some restrictions may apply.

[@Rdfx-jk5ev]

Because they can detect US government sponsored spyware and remove it.

[@KasperskyFan2111]

Kaspersky isn't even based in Russia anymore lol its headquartered in Switzerland now

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Almost all Russian companies do that. Escape from Tarkov is developed by Russians but "headquartered" in London. Gaijin Entertainment also has offices outside Russia and Atomic Heart was developed by Russians with a shell company in Cyprus.

[@sesad5035]

​@@ChucksSEADnDEADThey do that to avoid taxes, right?

[@rwquote]

​@@sesad5035actually, yes, but not only

[@stunningandbased5516]

​@@sesad5035Basically avoiding sanctions and being at least on paper an EU-based company.

[@snintendog]

@@stunningandbased5516 Its literally to avoid the Democrats warmongers.

[@MaikOlszewski]

If the current gov labels something as not good it might actually be good. That is the saddest thing about this I think.

[@goose4165]

yes, i think meth is good for us.

[@MaikOlszewski]

@@goose4165 Pretty sure meth was a thing before Biden, and it's not related to anything said or implied in any way. Straw-men sure make one look stupid though, well done with that.

[@tbkswagg]

no he said that your thinking is too simplistic and not productive. If you just simply oppose everything your govt says that makes you a sheep * (-1), nothing better

[@MaikOlszewski]

@@tbkswagg No, he literally said "yes, i think meth is good for us." Implying that my take is a bad or stupid one. While I said "might be good". I know that not seeing everything in black and white is hard but please don't be like goose and try to put words in people mouths or try to straw-men, just to get your point across, a point that once again no one talked about. Thanks.

[@tbkswagg]

@@MaikOlszewski Yeah you have a point here of course, fair enough. Basically we talkin bout the same thing tho, to be honest the "might" and the nuance it has in the sentence went over my head kinda. :Dc

[@silver9062]

Out of all of the antiviruses I've used, Kaspersky was easily the best. Kaspersky is a threat to national security in the same way that TikTok, Rock N' Roll, Elvis shaking his hips, and Twisted Sister is a threat to national security. "Use national security as a reason to justify anything and the people will buy it."

[@belarus2024]

Покажите исходный код этого продукта

[@lmnk]

@@belarus2024 покажите исходный код винды...

[@ThunderClawShocktrix]

tik tok is a threat cuase of the way its rotting teens brains

[@Mayhzon]

They are an influence zone / domain from a competitor to US Hegemony. That's the real answer.

[@Mark-12-31]

It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse. TikTok, Rock N' Roll, Elvis shaking his hips, and Twisted Sister do not wield the same power at the operating system level as antivirus software.

[@Elytrii]

I ban all comments other than mine

[@Moose265]

thats how democracy works 👀

[@TechHowden]

@@Moose265 you've clearly been banned, you can't say that. /s

[@stevebabiak6997]

You are 100% qualified to be a KZbin content moderator

[@YumiiSauce]

This comment is awaiting approval from the Elytr1 Administration.

[@j.21]

at least this is a reply not a comment /unbanned

[@othonkamariotis]

Kaspersky is the best antivirus software out there...If you can't compete...you ban...

[@Mark-12-31]

It's really good software, but it was made in a country where one call from 'above' can turn it into a weapon, and they can't refuse. So, I blame Putin.

[@othonkamariotis]

@@Mark-12-31 you should blame the ass that you voted for

[@sergeantsapient]

I don't even use Kaspersky but now I want to because fuck the fed.

[@yellowked]

There is a saying in Russia, "I'm going to freeze my ears off to spite my grandma" That's what you're suggesting basically

[@UmitSeyhan75]

@@thecaretaker407 "threat"

[@bsherman8236]

Best antivirus imo, really safe too, i never got caught

[@SaanMigwell]

I mean unless you are an enterprise you really don't need anything except what comes native with windows. If you do you need security, you aren't using windows, and most likely have built your own IPS/IDS.

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

​@@yellowkedNow I'm gonna do it even harder.

[@akam9919]

The government should have no right to determine what can and cannot be on your system.

[@brandonwombacher2559]

The government will do whatever it feels like, get used to it.

[@sesad5035]

This sounds like someone who's addicted to CP.

[@xXLesterGamingXx]

Sounds very wrong taken out of context

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

@@brandonwombacher2559 someones a bootlicking cuck

[@andrewk.7498]

​@@sesad5035cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck

[@haythemsandel8303]

And today we woke up with the Crowdstrike debacle lmao

[@versy187]

THE LAND OF THE FREE

[@fkcombustion]

Everyone’s losing freedoms globally bro, I wouldn’t be laughing at anyone

[@Blue2x2x]

@@fkcombustion Nah, US people cheered when they trade in their freedoms to ban TikTok because "Security". This is just government's duty to keep people "safe". So, LOLZ.

[@versy187]

@@fkcombustion of course, but most countries don't claim to be the epitome of freedom

[@sugarpuddin]

Why would anyone stay in the USA? It's expensive, predatory, angry, predatory, dangerous, sociopathic, narcissistic, gluttonous, drugged I voted with my feet and left the USA for good. Best decision of my life!

[@mickeyg7219]

It never was.

[@Master-ng9uj]

Kaspersky was top of the charts amongst AVs since ages ago. It wasn't really until the war that everyone started having a moan about it. Thankfully I'm not American. I'll keep using it.

[@ERECTED_MONUMENT]

The only virus I caught with kaspersky is when I got an activator for it (this was before they had a free version) and clicked the wrong link. I wasn't even mad, it was a funny L.

[@SkylineFTW97]

With VPNs being what they are, what's to stop someone from just downloading it from an IP address in another country? Or hell, what's to stop Kaspersky from just continuing to take money from US clients? Not something that can be easily enforced, or at least not through ways that wouldn't have holes in them large enough to drive a bus through.

[@jhaduvala]

The US administration is having a tug off competition in the halls of "power". Pulling the pud.

[@monisrajput8056]

If Is this spyware, then please tell me what was recall

[@PvtAnonymous]

it's a "feature" of course

[@ownmicelio]

There is something weird here...

[@masExz]

spyware but not by russians so its ok

[@monisrajput8056]

@@masExz hahaha, Do you know. what extreme thing us did They even bombed a guy

[@TommyCrosby]

'MURIAN keylogger, I guess?

[@Taverius]

That's the best endorsement of Kasperksy as an antivirus I've ever seen 🤣

[@PavewayIII-gbu24]

Freedom™

[@JorgeLopez-qj8pu]

Team America: "Freedom is the only way"

[@norger]

"Freedom" is just a misnomer for controlled crony capitalism

[@Archimedeeez]

AI waifu wake up! Mental Outlaw just dropped another vid!!

[@llVIU]

it's funny how the government, as always, fails to show you what these so-called "risks" are. You just have to trust the government and take their word for it

[@cjthebeesknees]

I like how we’re enslaved in various conceptual ways but not in the traditional shackles way.. yet, guess we gotta be broken, disenfranchised, isolated, and surveilled in a myriad of ways before we feel that cold iron of shackles across our feet.

[@mrotss]

dont worry we will feel the shackles soon enough!

[@drdca8263]

What would be the use of such literal shackles? Residents are more able to do work if they can move about more easily. Whatever restrictions you want to put on the general populace’s movement would be better achieved through a combination of walls, surveillance, and people with guns. Literal shackles would only be useful in weird edge-cases I think. Also, I think I’ve heard that pure slavery just isn’t economically efficient? You get better profits by granting some amount of choice, and the right incentives. You want to use a bit of carrot, not just the stick. One issue with just using the stick, is it is infeasible to determine whether or not someone is working as hard as they semi-sustainably can. And, if they are, and you guess that they aren’t, and use the stick, this is likely to diminish their capacity for work? So, you can get more work out of people by giving them positive incentives to produce results, rather than to just appear to not be slacking off. And, there’s not much point in restricting things arbitrarily? Makes more sense to restrict specifically those things which (either is likely to cause an *actual* problem (not *just* a problem for those in power), or) is more likely to lead to a potential threat to your power. Not to suggest that “people trying to clutch at greater power over the populace doesn’t significantly decrease quality of life” or anything like that. Of course it does. But, literal shackles, seem preeetttyy unlikely.

[@theyellowarchitect4504]

No need for iron shackles, serfs and slaves didn't work as efficiently as now. That said, 2nd amendment if it does happen (FEMA) Until then, try to do your best, even a single person can make a difference in influencing others. You are only broken/disenfranchised/isolated/surveilled in the internet. Real life is different.

[@Amp1771]

What the heck. They're were the best value and overall best anti-virus software.

[@IsmailofeRegime]

I'd say NOD32 is better, but I'm also one of those "Windows Defender is probably good enough AV for ordinary Internet needs" guys.

[@crusaderACR]

​@@IsmailofeRegime Windows Defender is American spyware. I'd rather be spied on by Russians than by gringos. One is far, far away, never did me any harm, never invaded my country, never banrukpted or bought out my country's companies, never meddled in my nation's diplomacy & self-rule, and the other is the United States of America.

[@imgladnotu9527]

​@@IsmailofeRegimeas a, i dont use any AV's and rely upon good system monitoring tools guy, i'd say both kaspersky and eset have been trading blows for quite some time, but in my personal experience before i just relied on my own tools, i'd say kaspersky edges out by a small margin.

[@prezentoappr1171]

​@@imgladnotu9527 Care to share the tools names? I'm really interest. To many posts in reddit r antivirus I can't find definitive answer

[@GFunkEra1992]

Ah the US gov can't crack Kaspersky. Guess who's going to be a loyal customer to them.

[@Mark-12-31]

Iran, North Korea... all those humanity-loving countries?

[@RandomVenezuelan]

OpenAI Ban soon then?

[@nc1246]

@Based_Gigachad_001 Yeah it's US spyware instead, what you like

[@nicksjacku9750]

If Kaspersky can take down Pegasus, then I'm all for Kaspersky!

[@VG-or1nu]

I hope the Government decision is futile in deciding individual people’s decisions

[@dr-rexmangrca113]

You were where last 5 years!!!?? They sucked the useless people you get bioweapones in bodies.. Many are dead or disable

[@zchen27]

I mean would be trivial to start handing out national security charges to Kaspersky users. Targeted harassment usually works if you are a government or corporation and can just drag it out.

[@dr-rexmangrca113]

@@zchen27 great way to fill private jails and limit gi Guns ownership.. Plus tax the hell of out useless eaters.. Plus create more profits for lawyers and bondmen

[@mickeyg7219]

No, but the banks can be pressured to stop doing businesses with the sanctioned company. Your credit/debit cards will refuse to process the transaction, assuming the company themselves didn't take down their ability to let you buy when you browse from a certain country address in the first place.

[@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074]

I would trust Kaspersky far more than I would trust American corporations. What does Kaspersky have to gain by accessing your computer?

[@100c0c]

Kaspersky essentially acts like a rootkit to work (as do many other anti-virus programmes). It's crazy to install something like that.

[@velcrofishsticks6002]

Just like anti-cheats, right?

[@randybutter1638]

Eh not really, It would be kinda bad if your antivirus was turned off because malware decided to keep it from starting. You understand what it does and are fine with it there's no problem

[@jamiealeksic8428]

"Understand what it does" that's the problem you have to take these companies at face value that the antivirus is all it does

[@imgladnotu9527]

​@@velcrofishsticks6002i miss the days where competent av's would flag intrusive ac's as rootkits

[@egg-mv7ef]

do you play valorant by any chance?

[@dodo-fn3yj]

Thanks for the info, I'm going to extend my Kaspersky license for 3 of my devices

[@Mark-12-31]

Comments like these appear so fake. I guess in a tyranny like Russia, creativity is one of the first things to go. (😁Kaspersky excluded)

[@WolfHeadedDragonQueen]

I misread the title that the US had banned Kentucky and I was surprised at how happy that made me.

[@monisrajput8056]

Only two anti virus are best one is Kaspersky and Bitdefender

[@Dave102693]

Nah it’s Malwarebyte

[@monisrajput8056]

@@Dave102693 surprised to see why gov didn't called ms recall a spyware. People shouted and it turn out to be Damn most us company doing same thing

[@freakyjim2131]

Nah it's Linux

[@MrJuanjo1997]

Bitdefender does not have firewall

[@mickeyg7219]

@@MrJuanjo1997 BitDefender Anti-Virus, no, but BitDefender Internet Security and above? Yes. But I suggest you using a FOSS firewall, neither Kaspersky nor BitDefender firewalls have that many features. I'm using Fort Firewall right now, and it's the best FOSS firewall so far, even better than Portmaster.

[@kellymelrose8527]

its obviously the only one worth having if you want any sort of privacy

[@joshualieberman1059]

As a Russian I would not recommend to use any product if it’s produced by an entity or developers that can be physically visited by the Russian law enforcement. It doesn’t mean the American ones are “good” but as much as all those Microsofts are in fact a spyware the American law enforcemts can’t enforce certain things the same way the Russian do like forcing to do illegal things the same way.

[@microchipmatt]

Why isn’t anyone listening to the actual Russian man, he’s right about the freedoms in Russia.

[@CheeseDanish85]

Kaspersky is based in Switzerland

[@microchipmatt]

Good to know. I do appreciate their research efforts. And everyone here is right about US gov vs. Russian gov influence, I don’t always know which is worse. I do know Kaspersky worked. And contributed to research in a positive way.

[@CheeseDanish85]

@joshualieberman1059 Just want to point out that the US government can ABSOLUTELY make life hell for a corporation that doesn't play ball. Exactly like how they are doing to Kaspersky right now...

[@Mayhzon]

All companies dealing with security or some such are a long arm for the nation's government they reside in.

[@llvn11]

Yes I'm sure the govt is worried about the citizens

[@akinhetito]

I feel a sudden urge to install Kaspersky !

[@blkcrow]

the main problem that Kaspersky has a history of publicizing US federal exploits?

[@madkvideo]

Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool is the shit. I love it.

[@RT-qd8yl]

So what should one be using as a simple and easy *free* AV for general home use?

[@johnratfink7343]

You don't need one.

[@chernobyl169]

Windows Defender. For Linux, you don't need one. Seriously. Do not use third party anti-virus. They cause problems and do not offer genuine solutions beyond what your computer has built in.

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

Windows defender, Dont trust third party,. Virustotal is good if you wanna do a quick URL search for links and files

[@j-twd930]

Your brain.

[@purplehvh]

Microsoft defender is perfectly fine. Maybe some years ago it would be wise to get a 3rd party AV but in recent times Microsoft defender works great, Microsoft defender paired with commonsense is all you should really need.

[@UnintentionalRebel]

The troubled started for Kaspersky back in 2017 when they discovered EternalBlue that was/is a (Computer Exploit) tool developed by the NSA. And has sense been used by various threat actors for ransomware attacks and various worms. NSA does not like their tools being exposed. Hence all of the troubles for Kaspersky since then.

[@nicksjacku9750]

Proprietary is what's evil

[@highevo]

Scared the hell out of me, why did i see nothing about this?? I just saw a random thing named UltraAV pop up and thought it was over

[@simple-human-being]

So if my family is all using the software, and we live in America, what happens next? Do we get refunded for this or what? Does the software just stop working?

[@clockblower6414]

Likely the software will work but not get updates. Or it might get updates anyway since its installed. Regardless, it wont disappear

[@privatemarijan]

Reach out to support, but my guess is probably not if you're using it for a longer time. If you bought a piece of software very recently, then there might be a chance to get a refund. Also, if you're on Windows 10/11, there's absolutely no reason at all to use any anti-virus tools besides Windows Defender. They're all bloated and use your resources, and God knows what else that slow down your PC. Defender has come to the point that it can do everything that every other paid anti-virus software can do. I would recommend just once a year to install Malwarebytes and do a single check just to know that everything is fine, but even that's unnecessary.

[@jittertn]

Vpn ?

[@simple-human-being]

@@privatemarijan Thanks for the feedback, I might reach out to the bank. I actually spend quite a bit of time researching OPSEC and privacy and security. And some of my older family members were constantly getting viruses. Windows defender wasn’t enough in that situation and in spite of the current opinion on anti-virus software, it was actually quite helpful in this regards. Kaspersky was able to find several viruses that Windows Defender (Win11) wasn’t noticing. I also had a few viruses show up on my macOS, usually they were background crypto Trojans. I was also fully aware of the concerns around Kaspersky, but I thought why not try it out. I guess we have a more solid answer now lol

[@simple-human-being]

@@privatemarijan Thanks! I’m aware of security and privacy practices, after much research I went with Kaspersky because Windows Defender was actually missing stuff on my older family member’s computers. It actually worked quite well for that purpose tbh. Obviously with this news the question of it the software is safe or not has been answered lol

[@MrBikboi]

Kaspersky is based as hell, this is some SUS glowing behavior. Thanks FEDs, always looking out for our best interests

[@magicmanchloe]

Love to see a return to form, informative with the facts outlined and opinions clearly shared as opinions not facts.

[@c0d3warrior]

Given that Russia carries out cyberattacks on Western countries it only makes sense to ban even only potentially abusable software, just as explained in the first 3mins of the video.

[@conquercode]

reminder that this was a major sponsor of Moonfall, the movie where the moon fell onto the Earth.

[@copperlemon1]

Used to work for Staples on the tech side. When I worked there, N*rton was the push product and everything we sold in-store had it preinstalled with a 30 day trial, but beforehand Kaspersky had been one of the preferred AVs. We had a lot of older repeat customers who would rely on us over the course of years for anything PC related, so I saw some people coming in feeling concerned and even betrayed by being sold Kaspersky. I would usually try to explain that they are fine, that it's a decent product, the Russians aren't after your quilting patterns, etc., but some of them were earnestly spooked.

[@xXRealXx]

Isn't Kaspersky not even in Russia anymore? Why the ban then?

[@ownmicelio]

Uk

[@rbStig]

Im pretty sure it has something to do with them releasing hardware level backdoors in the intel management engine

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Russian companies "aren't in Russia anymore" because they just relocate offices and create shell companies.

[@xXRealXx]

@@ownmicelio what?

[@xXRealXx]

@@rbStig well, boohoo. Maybe the US shouldn't have mandated hardware backdoors in both Intel and AMD processors then

[@cimbakahn]

Kaspersky and Trend Micro were excellent in the 80's & 90's. Are they saying they suddenly changed? I find this hard to believe. I would be more concerned with Avast, and anything Avast purchased.

[@triggeringsmuganimepfp7611]

Thanks for the commentary, I appreciate your insights. What are the political implications, for the US Government, of Russian private companies being able to counter Israeli malware, being deployed in US soil, with or without the alleged US Gov acknowledgement?

[@SimGunther]

They must not like Linux and Russya

[@_xX_me_Xx_]

... made in FINLAND? But that's basically Russia! I say we ban it!

[@mickeyg7219]

I don't get it, when has the US government became anti-Linux?

[@SimGunther]

@@mickeyg7219 Direct quote from an article regarding the DMCA linux policy: The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) makes unlocking cell phones, ripping DVDs, removing eBook DRM, and jailbreaking tablets illegal in the USA. However, there’s another surprise: simply watching a DVD on Linux is also illegal.

[@SimGunther]

@@morgenholz7937 Mega grudge that goes back toUSSR days. Plus, you'll never guess why bay of pigs was such a big deal in the 1960s. HINT: theUSSR was funding Cuba bigly back then...

[@SimGunther]

@@mickeyg7219 The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) makes unlocking cell phones, ripping DVDs, removing eBook DRM, and jailbreaking tablets illegal in the USA. However, there’s another surprise: simply watching a DVD on Linux is also illegal.

[@MrBelles104]

If it's proprietary, always treat it like spyware, unless you route all connections through a firewall and only allow the connections you want.

[@anthonywalker6268]

Recall.

[@Nick51100]

Weren’t they ones that found out about stuxnet? 😂

[@ikaeye]

They banned Kaspersky before tiktok, shit makes no sense

[@Mark-12-31]

TikTok is not given the same power on OS level.

[@SkNero]

I am quite surprised that many portray this as a "either that or this" even though both reasons for the potential ban could be reasons and their combined impact makes the decision

[@ReptilianLepton]

Maybe try banning some actual foreign intelligence threats, like Wargaming, Gaijin, miHoYo, and every pie Tencent has their fingers in.

[@tungsten8332]

Then, a HUGE chunk of gaming would be no more

[@notaboutit3565]

@@tungsten8332read a book then

[@Molya]

It's in China's interest to disconnect the West and Russia while also controlling the virtual spaces of both and disrupting them. Think.

[@ziggylycans]

@@notaboutit3565 we shouldn't have to "read" we have video screens... why perturb the freedom of choice?

[@ziggylycans]

@@notaboutit3565 censorship is NEVER the "answer" if u have truth on your side.or at all

[@ziggylycans]

so i was right 10yrs ago when i trusted it more than norton

[@IchiroIrabu]

We banned Kaspersky to protect freedom, and we never asked American citizens about it to protect democracy.

[@db4ks]

A shame, Kaspersky and malware bytes are the best anti virus

[@jaffabaloota6325]

If I was to use an anti virus software I would prefer one associated with Russia rather than the US. I honestly would feel more safe that way

[@unicornkitteh5332]

Didnt we already ban Kaspersky already? (I know we did because my company needed me to go shut down their accounts like a year or 2 ago)

[@MrVidification]

that's what I thought, the response, covering transparency and trust, is still on the kasperky official pages

[@NX6.2]

This just makes me want to switch to kaspersky.