The USA - British War of 1812 - A British Perspective

[@minuteman4199]

I don't think most Canadians know about this war anymore, but it was part of our national mythology in the past. The monument to General Brock at Queenston is huge, and very impressive. I live near a Brock Township, there is a Brock Street in my town, and in many other small towns in Ontario. There is a city called Brockville, and Brock University is in St Catharines.

[@bullettube9863]

Ironically near where I live, in Orleans county, there is a hamlet called Brockville.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks for sharing.

[@garybrockwell2031]

I felt I should live there🤩😍🇬🇧💪🧐🤔😁

[@francis5600]

Yeah but is there a pokemon gym there?

[@jacqueslefave4296]

@@francis5600 😋🤪😉😜😅

[@minuteman4199]

There are many Canadians who are descendants of those British soldiers, as many of them stayed on in Canada and got land grants for their service.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing.

[@MrAtsyhere]

One descendent was of Sir Isaac Brock although not officially married he left issue with a fiance. This family came to become great hockey players, Wayne Gretzky #99. Grtezky was a polish immigrant family who came to live in Canning near Brantford Ontario. Canning was then Mudge Hollow and burned by American raiding parties in 1813. Mudge's were Loyalists Americans, but Quaker so as to not take a life in war Old Mr Mudge was a drummer and fought at Lundy's Lane. His Son founded the nearby town of Ayr Ontario.

[@tomservo5347]

Interestingly during the American Revolutionary War 5,000 Hessian mercenaries were listed as 'missing'. I think most of them deserted and settled in the many German communities sharing a language and culture along with switching sides for the prospect of a better life in their newly adopted country. Even more crazy is my German born mom's DNA ancestry showed Egyptian. I can only guess when Napoleon conquered Egypt he had lots of German regiments and I can only presume one brought an Egyptian wife home with him.

[@johanisnotagamer]

All the white Americans are descendants of European colonists 😅. I love how US citizens try to pretend otherwise.

[@britishamerican4321]

@@MrAtsyhere Interesting, thanks. And yes, Gretzky is related to Isaac Brock on his mother's side.

[@robg5958]

Thanks again Chris, excellent presentation! I lived in Canada for nearly thirty years and I can assure you that they speak with deep pride about how they resisted the Americans in the war of 1812. I'm looking forward to your next video!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Rob, I did hear some wag say "The Americans think they won it, the British haven't got a clue about it, and the Canadian KNOW they won it!"

[@evans0109]

@@TheHistoryChap to be fair and honest there was no winners in war of 1812 no land was lost or Gained just 35000 dead. And you asked Chris if the war was worth it. My answer is No because nobody won the border thever changed but lives was taken for what nothing

[@margaretkairu7418]

@@evans0109 AMONG THE DEAD WAS GENERAL ROSS.

[@evans0109]

@@margaretkairu7418 are you serious I though Ros and Brock where drinking buddy's after the war He was shot at the Battle of Baltimore whilst commanding troops at North Point he was mortally wounded but died whilst they was moving him to the rear. BTH Major General Issac Brock died to he buried under the Brock Monument at Niagra on the The Lake Tecumseh died at the Battle of Thames his body was mutilated and buried good few times and nobody knows where he is buried now

[@evans0109]

@@margaretkairu7418 his rank was MAJOR GENERAL which is higher than a Generak as you stated

[@tng2057]

Thanks. This war, like the Boer War, is mostly forgotten in particular in the UK and it is great somebody can re-tell it with simplicity and humor.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very kind of you. Thanks.

[@monza1002000]

Forgotten in the UK? I remember it from school history lesson. The history l was taught was slightly wrong in the sense there was no stop of the 1776 war, just a peace treaty. In retrospect it was probably just my teachers own play on it but, as a child, l took it as correct.

[@stephenhill545]

They don't teach messy wars in British schools. We might look at our history critically rather than growing up nationalists steeped in the names of Crecy, Agincourt and the dam busters.

[@wor53lg50]

Nationalist?? Right ok??, nothing wrong with being proud of who you are and your nations achievements??, probably why the whole of the west is finding themselves in the dilemma happening now.. Where blokes meow and women bark and they both swap clothes now..

[@modelrailwaynoob]

The Boer war is not forgotten in the UK.

[@rogergadley9965]

My great-great grandfather a member of a Swiss mercenary regiment was sent to “defend” Canada during The War of 1812 for the British. He stayed in Canada when Great Britain offered land to former soldiers who were willing to stay and farm. One of his sons immigrated to New England in the 1840’s, starting the American branch of my family. Why did Great Britain give land to Swiss soldiers? Well, the Brit’s needed settlers, the attacks by the Americans against a small populations of Canadians showed them that and also, by granting land in Canada they didn’t have to bear the expense of shipping them back to Europe. For the Brit’s it was a win-win.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing your family story.

[@markiobooker218]

He wouldnt be "Swiss"- he would have been Hanoverian (Hanau) military conscript part of George III's possessions as he was simultaneously Duke then King (and head of House Hanau/Hanover) of Brunswick-Lüneberg (Hanau or Hanover) and Land-Grave of Hesse-Hornburg (where Hessians had long been mercenaries in an otherwise poor state, the Princes of Hesse quite quickly realised they could make a fortune from the serfs as sell-swords and their competence and capability grew with each successful deployments so as to be more famous and desired than the Swiss Guards who had not always stayed true). Swiss and Dutch (perfect examplr Menonites or Amish are not Dutch but Dietsch- lowlands Germans Menonites originated in Germany and Boheme never even a small following in Netherlands) were common euphemisms for Germans who in 1812 were realing from Napoleons destruction of Holy Roman Empire, yet to be consolidated by Prussia as Deutschland, modern Germany.

[@MrAtsyhere]

@@markiobooker218 No there were SWISS, look into Haldimand. They were trusted supply units and known for their honesty in not pilfering the goods as was so common in the era.

[@JamesThomas-gg6il]

I'm a Yank, and Ive always explained it to poeple that it was really just a sibling rivalry or just two brothers griping over essentially nothing. A lot of people on all sides died. Maybe no where near other wars, but still to lose anyone in a war without any real goals or gains is terrible. Glad we got all of that out of our collective systems before then end of that particular century. As I am sure you British are as well.

[@neilgriffiths6427]

Yup - brothers fight when they are growing up, but become good friends over time (usually). The British look around the world today - and still find few better friends than the USA.

[@angloaust1575]

Burning of the White House and British blunder at new orleans Didnt help matters much! Anyway in 1861 they were fighting Each other!

[@TheHistoryChap]

James, maybe (rather like siblings) you need to fall out to understand what you both have in common.

[@angusmacdonald4860]

We're ready for another go, bring it

[@JamesThomas-gg6il]

@@angusmacdonald4860 not right now, we have way too much in law squabbling going on in the states.

[@donlee7028]

Fabulous as usual Chris! I was born near these battles in St Catharines Ontario so was given the myth that it was the York Militia who saved the day at Queenston Heights and Lundays Lane not to mention the battle at Ridgeway. My father always felt Techumseh was not given his due either. If it had not been for British Regulars and the First Nations the various battles could have gone to the Americans. The building of more robust ships turned the tide against the Americans on the Great Lakes. General Sir Isaac Brocks monument still sits on Queenston Heights overlooking the Niagara Gorge. Once again..your presentations are excellent for their balance enthusiasm your lucid insights dramatic voice and superb visuals. Well done indeed!

[@bullettube9863]

As my "Tory" relations in St. Catharines are constantly reminding me, don't fool with the Canadians, they can be very good fighters when their dander is up!

[@TheHistoryChap]

As they showed in WW1 and WW2.

[@doug6500]

I honestly don't think there is much point in differentiating a "Canadian" and a "Brit" in this period unless we're talking about the ones of French origin. I doubt it be worth making the distinction until WW1 or after..

[@markrainford1219]

Oh I don't know, Techumseh did get an engine named after him.

[@MarktheMole]

​@@bullettube9863 Yes, and most of them are Scots - demonic in battle as the Germans and others found to their cost - who always love a good scrap..

[@Gettingback997]

Thanks!

[@TheHistoryChap]

You are very welcome. Thanks for your support

[@nathanappleby5342]

Hey Chris, thank you for putting the Star Spangled Banner in your video! Very nice coming from a Brit. It was such a pity the news of peace didn't reach America in time to save Pakenham from death. He was one of Wellington's best division commanders in the Peninsular War for which the Duke regarded him with great respect to the point that he played a part in smoothing things between the Duke and his wife, Pakenham's sister, before he died. Such a great man and leader.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Pakenham was a very able commander (until New Orleans).

[@Paul-hl8yg]

The star spangled banner/stars & stripes was copied from the flag of the British East India company. 🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@howardjohnston6112]

It's also interesting to note the following points, which are often lost of Americans these days: 'The Star Spangled Banner' was the poem he wrote. He did not write the music. The music used for the American National Anthem is an old English drinking song ('To Anachreon') which always makes me smile! It's not even an American tune! It's British! The US flag from 1775 onwards was indeed based upon the flag of the East India Company. I suspect the colonists in 1775 just used a British EIC flag (called the Grand Union Flag / Continental Colours) and then later replaced the canton (union) with the 'stars' in 1776. Pakenham's loss was indeed very sad and ultimately unnecessary.

[@nathanappleby5342]

@@howardjohnston6112 It's shocking to know an important American song, our national anthem, was not an original. It worked in the end nonetheless.

[@nathanappleby5342]

@@howardjohnston6112 Not the music anyway.

[@knicksprop]

I teach about and in the US it’s largely skipped over but your video does an excellent job of balancing out the facts. I think it’s more important in terms of shaping America going forward, as in, after not worrying so much about British influence in North America, they could set their sights on settling the rest of the continent.

[@jollyswashbuckler]

What a interesting war this was, thank you for making a video about this underrated war which deserves more recognition, keep up the wonderful work!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching.

[@brianfoster3615]

Our schools in Ohio are required to teach Ohio History and the War of 1812 features heavily in Ohio’s History. There is also a live outdoor drama on Tecumseh’s life that is performed each summer near Chillicothe, Ohio that also covers his part in fighting for the British and forming a coalition of Native America during the War of 1812.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Brian, that is so interesting and good to know that history is being kept alive.

[@jamesbishop4635]

Thanks for this Chris. Shall enjoy it,as i do with all your content.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Enjoy and have a great weekend.

[@davidpitchford6510]

Excellent! Concise, clear history. Despite hearing and reading many things this war never seemed clear to me until this brief exposition!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your kind comment.

[@etiennesharp]

As to who won; your 'sliding doors' comment is as good as any, Chris. We could also argue that had Britain not had most of its professional soldiery tied up elsewhere, the results could have been far different. The aggressor didn't achieve any of their war aims and was, frankly, embarrassed by the Canadian version of the Territorial Army (at the time) though.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Etienne, I guess that if the British had not been tied up fighting the French, the whole impressment / blockade issues would never have arisen either. So whilst Britain would have had the troops the Americans wouldn't have had a reason to declare war in 1812.

[@redemptivepete]

The only winners in any war are the ones that don't get involved. Sad that every generation has to keep relearning this with unknowable consequences for the whole of humanity.

[@alganhar1]

@@UserName-om6ft You conveniently forget a few important things in your response. 1) Napoleon ALSO had a coalition. Something you either are ignorant of or are simply ignoring. It was not just French troops in the French Army, but included troops from many Nations. Poland most famously. At various times Spain, Prussia, the Ottoman Empire, Bavaria, Wurttemberg, Baden, and his satellite kingdoms of Italy, Naples and Holland were also allied with Napoleon, and Britain stood all but alone. 2) Impressment had actually ended in 1809, three years before the war. It was the US declaration of war that started Impressment up again because the Royal Navy had to find crews for ships they had put in Ordinary. The war of 1812 was the last time the Royal Navy used Impressment. 3) The Royal Navy had defeated, utterly, the combined Spanish and French Fleet years prior at Trafalgar, a 'minor' battle you may have heard of. They never came even close to losing control of the sea from that point onwards. So please explain to me how the UK would not have stood a chance? Without an ability to gain Naval Supremacy there was precisely zero chance of Napoleon landing troops on British soil, which is the ON:Y way he could have ended the war. Germany too suffered this issue during WWII, despite the Invasion scares in 1940 Germany in actual fact had absolutely no chance of gaining Naval supremacy in order to force a Landing on British soil, let alone supply it afterwards. 4) American defeats also had effects on the Treaty of Ghent, not just British defeats, another factor you conveniently ignore, as the negotiations were protracted. 5) The only 'harsh' demand in the in the initial British demands was the institution of a Native American state to act as a buffer. Any territorial claims had been dropped on the advice of Wellington. That state would have been made up of a mix of US and Canadian territory, not just US. It was something that the Americans would never agree to because they already considered Native American land 'theirs'. But the travesty that is the USA's historical treatment of the Native American's is a subject for another day, and will forever remain a stain on the USA's principle of 'Freedom'.

[@darthmalyn3231]

@@alganhar1 Not like the British treated the Native Americans any better in Canada and then the Canadians.

[@cwr3959]

@@alganhar1 fuck yeaaaaaa what a good response. Username is a troll I have encountered a number of times

[@joeritchie4554]

This was extremely interesting because this is never covered in American history classes. I really learned a lot from this video. Thank you for posting this video! It is also interesting because I live 50 miles north of New Orleans.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Joe, so glad you enjoyed it.

[@black10872]

It was taught. You was just not paying attention.

[@joeritchie4554]

@@black10872 In college, I did not get to take early US history due to my major. In high school, my history teacher started teaching American history from where we were in the 1970's and went back in history. Did not even reach the American Civil War. Had to teach that to myself. The only time I learned anything about the American Revolution was in 5th grade, then after learning about it, we switched to social studies. This is one reason that I love these videos.

[@jacqueslefave4296]

In many high schools, the school board will not provide funding for an athletic coach (usually a football coach), so they hire a coach as the " history teacher, " and he usually knows little history and cares even less. I have a relative in a high school that would arrive at the history class at the appointed time, send the girls to either cheerleading practice or typing or whatever practice, and spend all the class time with the boys reviewing football plays at the chalkboard, and teach strategy and other football subject matter. It is shameful, school management knows about it and looks the other way. It seems like criminal fraud to me, but who knows, the D.A. may be a fan of booster, but I am informed that this is a common arrangement at American High Schools, which name is a contradiction in terms.😈🏈👹

[@board-qu9iu]

@@joeritchie4554 wait you go backwards in your history class? I was taught from colonial America to present day.

[@the5thmusketeer215]

That was superbly presented, Chris. I am one of many Brits, I suspect, for whom “The War of 1812” was just a title that I was aware of, but which I had never bothered to investigate & therefore knew next to nothing about - other than that it arose out of contentious issues created by the European Naval blockades of the Napoleonic Wars & included the burning of the White House & some legendary ship on ship duels, such as that fought between HMS Shannon & the USS Chesapeake. THANK YOU for providing such a fascinating synopsis of that rather peculiar conflict & for bringing it all to life with the customary flair of your excellent narration & your well chosen illustrations that are not only very immersive but serve as an excellent visual aid, that helps one to MEMORISE the salient details that you relate. Kind Regards ~ LOUIS C.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Louis, thanks for your kind words and your support.

[@oldgitsknowstuff]

Your Dead right there.. The war of 1812 was against the French ! never heard of the American war of 1812 until 48 hours ago !! Ignorance is bliss but today I learned something.

[@johnforeman6620]

Do you know the song popularised by Lonnie Donegan, "The Battle of New Orleans? yotu.be/ojqS7nWWyXw

[@the5thmusketeer215]

@@johnforeman6620 I do now, John - because I looked it up & listened to it after reading your comment. 😊 Turns out I’d heard it before, because I remembered the catchy tune & the lyric, “…Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico” but I had no recollection of what the song was about until you pointed that out. Thank you. 🤝

[@oldgitsknowstuff]

@@johnforeman6620 Oh we fired our guns and the British kept a coming...... Does your chewing-gum lose its flavour on the bedpost overnight...

[@tomtaylor6163]

Great story Chris. I’m American and only know this stuff because of my own reading. This is really not taught correctly in American schools. One interesting note on the British attacking Washington is that they actually had a really strong Thunderstorm including a tornado which pummeled the British Army and in fact helped put out the fires

[@davidcollins2648]

There was a hurricane in fact.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Tom, you are right about the storm both making life hard for the British and putting the fires out.

[@hitime2405]

@@TheHistoryChap “putting the fires out” that is disastrous for us British, that would mean no tea, horrific!

[@bobtudbury8505]

E.T. assisted

[@n.d.m.515]

@@bobtudbury8505 no, God did, just like in the War for Independence with a little help from the French.

[@Davy.J.Y]

This is one of my all time fave historical stories. I enjoyed watching this video, thanks for creating and posting it.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Thank you for watching.

[@RomainSeiler]

Great stuff - highly interesting , many unknown facts to me . Helps understand where all these countries stand today - keep up the good work - love all the videos.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for the feedback

[@m7medx502]

Great content as always! keep them coming!

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Plenty more on the way.

[@CharlesPepper]

Excellent video about Britain's glorious victory. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching.

[@TheIceman567]

What glorious victory? Britain failed in its goals. The USA ended impressment and defeated the British native alliance

[@luciusesox1luckysox570]

@@TheIceman567 Err,, Canada !

[@TheIceman567]

@@luciusesox1luckysox570 err.. the war wasn’t about Canada! In fact the only nation that made demands on territory were the British.

[@jonathancarroll1283]

Good presentation. My only concern is at the end. It suggests that the War of 1812 allowed US/UK to bury the hatchet and be friends so they could fight together 100 years later. Perhaps it laid that groundwork but I think there is a lot that needed to happen in the following 100 years to forge that now unbreakable alliance. Chiefly, what my history teacher explained as “patting the eagle’s head.” So maybe War of 1812 allowed US/UK relations to thaw to the point that eventually led to patting the eagle’s head that then forged their future alliance.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for taking the time to comment & for watching my video

[@richardbradley2802]

Another fantastic video, you are such a good teacher. I learnt a lot more than I knew! Thanks!

[@johnbuxton6009]

Great as usual. We were enemys but our shared history finally bonded our nations together. Red white and blue. Always stand true. 🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@TheHistoryChap]

Great words.

[@howardjohnston6112]

Remember that the Revolutionary War was a colonial civil war. Both sides were 'British' in a sense. The War of 1812 was a continuation of that to some extent. In the 1775-1783 War only about 25% of the 'American' population wanted independence. About 25% did not. The remaining 50% didn't care one way or the other. Some of that sentiment lingered during the 1812-1815 War. Many Americans didn't want to be fighting the 'Mother Country'. Many Americans were British-born. New emigrants were arriving all the time from Britain (even after 1783). A fair proportion of the small US army was composed of British deserters from Canada. Pay was low in the service and few Americans wanted to enlist. When Washington DC was burnt there was outrage expressed back home in London! It's a very mixed situation with many on both sides wishing it hadn't happened and trying to bring it to a close as soon as possible. So yes - technically, the two nations were briefly enemies - but only by ill-conceived actions - and not really at heart for many people. Since then (apart from the results of the Trent Incident during the ACW which nearly saw the UK enter that war) we have been staunch allies.

[@mariarusso3790]

Hello John how are you. Hope you had a pleasant weekend 😊

[@aAverageFan]

​@@howardjohnston6112 Early Americans were just British settlers who didn't want to pay taxes to London lol

[@timeresrch]

Enemies (shared language too).

[@fahimhyder4738]

The honourable Mr. Chris Green is the best historian there is and ever will be. His flamboyance is highly inspirational and noteworthy. He is highly accurate when it comes to historical facts. His style of the narrative is highly poetic. He has shared his videos on world history, which in itself is a great public service for the general enlightenment of the people throughout the universe. I thank the great historian Chris Green for his enlightening presentations. Take care.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video and thank you for your kind comments.

[@FranciscoPreira]

Excellent presentation indeed, this cumbersome affair of 1812 needs to be taken from the oblivion chest where sometimes, these rather "small affairs" lay dormant. great work.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@cameronbrown9080]

Thanks Chris for your overview and I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the videos on this crazy war

[@TheHistoryChap]

Will be working on them very soon.

[@doobiejones9388]

Great video as always chap. Can't wait to get to the individual detailed videos. I'm from Northern Michigan USA. Love to see a video on the history of the Mackinac Strait's in general and Fort Michilimackinac in particular. The Fort was at one time French British and American. Was prominent during the war of 1812. 12- 15. LoL. Enjoy your channel immensely! 😊😎

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you are enjoying. More videos coming your way!

[@doobiejones9388]

@@TheHistoryChap 😊😊😊😊😎

[@andrewsteele7663]

Thanks again Chris, for another great story and you kept me stuck to my chair for the whole time, Cheers

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed.

[@OldSarge]

...excellent...EXCELLENT. A hard war to make any sense of, rather long and wandering, and your encapsulation of the matter was clear, logical and should be considered a primer for those seeking to make sense of the war. Kudos.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you very much.

[@jerryakbar6147]

My grandfather ( Thomas Crawford) kin folk fought in the war of 1812 ( Hugh Crawford) in the Niagara falls division of the American military. Thanks for the video. If he saw what's happened to America today, he would be heartbroken.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to watch and also to comment

[@kevingallen1678]

Here in the UK there is the same feeling,if the servicemen who fought at the Somme and throughout the nightmare of WW1.Also soldiers and airmen who fought in the Battle of Britain and served in bomber command of which 50% didn’t return saw the country today………….tragic.

[@britishamerican4321]

Thank you for this! You may be interested to know that the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa has Brock's uniform on display, the one in which he was killed. It clearly shows the musket-ball hole made by an American sharpshooter.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks so much for sharing. Looks like another holiday trip to add to my list :)

[@modelrailwaynoob]

Fab I have seen it

[@Michael.Dobson]

I love this video. The War of 1812 is little known and I am glad I accidentally stumbled upon this video and the channel. Thank you.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed.

[@grzzz2287]

Thanks for another fascinating presentation Chris!

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

[@zoegreen7097]

How interesting - great overview and looking forward to the smaller more detailed videos on this now!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks.

[@Clipgatherer]

Jackson’s victory in the Battle of New Orleans was particularly impressive, since his army was largely composed of militiamen, backwoods hunters and - even pirates (Jean La Fitte and his crew). Generals Robert Ross and Edward Pakenham, both killed in the war, were buried in Westminster Abbey.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to share this additional information

[@joeshmoe8345]

Real real cool. You, my good sir, have just earned yourself a subscriber! Ding ding ding!!!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks for your support.

[@stigg333]

Really interesting and well presented as usual, thanks for this one Chris.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

[@reynardthefox]

Another great story. My family went from fighting in the French and Indian War to the Revolution in a Highland regiment ...back to Europe to engage Napoleon ...then New Orleans...back to Napoleon..Canada again and America by the 1840's... Thank God , we moved to the 'Special Relationship' May we always stand together to defend the Rights of Humankind 🇬🇧🇺🇲

[@TheHistoryChap]

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

[@akacadian3714]

This was a great video synopsis of the War of 1812 and a well presented. One of my ancestors was an Acadian peasant farmer that helped a British Officer get some wagons out the mud near the Nova Scotia Isthmus in 1812. The British Captain took a liking to him because he could speak english and he made him a corporal of militia. Because of my Great X 5 grandfather Marin's service he was one of the first Acadians to have his land rights recognized by the English and he was one the first Acadians to serve in the New Brunswick Legislature. Ironically many of his descendants would later immigrate to the US in the early 20th Century.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Wow, what a great story. Thanks for sharing.

[@jacqueslefave4296]

Most of them were French speaking, and they went down to Louisiana and settled there. "Arcadians" was somewhere along the line shortened to "Cajun(s)", by which they continue to be known to this day.

[@akacadian3714]

@@jacqueslefave4296 the Cajuns are descendant mostly from Acadians Prisoners that wound up in England and were then released to France. Life in France and Europe was not so appealing to them and they made their way to Louisiana for a chance at their own land and it was consider safe for Catholics there as it was under Spain at the time when they immigrated. The Acadians of New Brunswick are descendants of Acadians that ran and hid with the Miq Mak Indians and Acadians that walked back from the 13 Colonies primary New England but as far as Virginia. Cajun French is very similar to Acadian French spoken by the Acadians of South East New Brunswick. There are also Acadians that had to flee St Pierre and Miquelon after the French Revolution and wound up in Newfoundland.

[@jacqueslefave4296]

@@akacadian3714 Thank you for filling me in on the details. Those folks really know how to cook, as well.🤪

[@Panda-gs5lt]

A great interpretation … well done

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you

[@tomservo5347]

I always think of 'The Great Escape' were Werner is talking to James Garner's pickpocket character asking him since he's American "Why do you fight for the British? They burned your capital during the War of 1812! I read it!"

[@bobrussell3602]

Brilliant ! And a plus : No annoying 'MUZAC ! I've subscribed.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your support.

[@Evlogite19]

Fun fact: during the War of 1812, the British referred to Americans as “Jonathans”. It actually dates to the English Civil War era, as a derogatory slur for Parliamentarians (just like “Roundhead”) but became rehashed during the War of 1812; or, as the British called it, the “second American War”. The term was supposed to mean “second-rate Englishmen”, which is precisely how our cousins in the Mother Country saw us Yanks at that time. It was, more specifically, mostly applied to New Englanders, given their predominantly Puritan/East Anglian ancestry, and became so popular that it ended up as the name of a New England newspaper; “Brother Jonathan”.

[@oldgitsknowstuff]

I'm shocked with all this Hate speech! Lol. Yanks call us 'Limeys' and we call Yanks.....well..er...Yanks ! 2 nations joined together yet separated by a bloody great ocean. Respects from the UK.

[@bullettube9863]

Did you know that the word "Yankee" was a Mohawk name given to white settlers? It basically means "white farmers"!

[@TheHistoryChap]

That is so interesting. Thanks for taking the time to show. Of course, the real laugh about the new Englanders was that they were the most willing to come to a compromise with the British (for trade reasons).

[@geraintthatcher3076]

​@TheHistoryChap A great book that might be of interest is by Donald E Graves call Fix Bayonets and Charge on the life of Thomas Pearson. A British Soldier who'd fought at Albuera and then at Cryslers Farm and Lundys Lane in Canada

[@harryshriver6223]

As an American there is always the illusion and myth about our wars and the War of 1812 is no different. I remember as a kid singing the song about the Battle of New Orleans and playing as a kid with my brothers simulating battle lines and musket fire. I really think you do have a point about the pointless nature sometimes of war itself but that's another topic for another time and place. Another excellent work my friend, just keep them coming!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed it. I like your idea for something about the pointless nature of war but, as you say, another time and place.

[@blaidddrwg2270]

I read that there was a Wahington newspaper that liked to print rather rude stories about Admiral Cockburn. When he entered the city he sought out the publisher and got the troops to smash every letter 'C' on the printing press so they couldn't write about him again.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Ha ha. Hadn't heard that one but I like it.

[@talpark8796]

well done snapshot of a favorite history topic. thx, sir.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

[@briandubois-gilbert8182]

This was a tragic war between “cousins”-that could have been avoided if not for the delays in communication. As you pointed out, these wars would eventually forged the strong bonds between the US, the UK and Canada that would see them allied together to fight world wars and more against fascism and terrorism in defense of democracy. Really appreciate you shedding light on this conflict.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Nice words, mate.

[@irishboer7124]

"Terrorism" is what Imperialist scum call resistance to their genocide and colonialism.

[@erikjacobsen7952]

Great video! Because of the format and thorough explanations I can use this for my classes!

[@TheHistoryChap]

That’s a lovely compliment. I hope your students enjoy it.

[@billballbuster7186]

Great story. The Americans certainly had grievances, but the attack on Canada was a land-grab while Britain was busy with the French. The American naval victories in 1813 were as a result of technical superiority, American Frigates were larger, far more heavily built and armed than their British counterparts. But this superiority ended as the more powerful British Razee Frigates were deployed.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for adding to the discussion.

[@SirBedevereTheWise]

To be honest, most of the frigates used during the war of 1812 were mostly former merchant marine ships repurposed. Up til the war, America only had a few naval ships. And these were relics from the revolutionary war, the (excessively brief) war with France, and the Barbary wars to end the Barbary terrorists from taking Americans captive and sold as slaves in Islamic Africa (interesting story, and has its own mention in the US Marine Corps hymn "to the shores of Tripoli")

[@billballbuster7186]

@@SirBedevereTheWise No, The US Navy had received 6 new 44-Gun Frigates that were considerably larger and better armed than contemporary British or French Frigates. Most famous was USS Constitution (Old Ironsides) launched 1797, which captured HMS Guerriere a small 38-gun (ex French) and HMS Java another 38-gun Frigate. These US 44-Gun ships were a problem untill the war with France ended in 1815 and superior Razee 44-gun Heavy Frigates were sent. But by that time the war of 1812 was over

[@SirBedevereTheWise]

​@@billballbuster7186ok 👍🏻 but it still comes back to being an older model. They were the better ship at commission but by time the war of 1812 rolled along they was no longer excelling. As the Razee shows. And who knows what was wrong with them by time 1812 come along since the American navy was yet new and limited experience (revolutionary war vets were long out of service, plus the wear and tear from the quasi war with France and the Barbary wars) so it's pretty safe to assume the major repairs were taken care of but it's always those minor issues that add up

[@billballbuster7186]

@@SirBedevereTheWise I really dont know what references you are using. In the age of Sail ships often lasted 60-80 years. The Constitution class built in the 1790s were relatively new ships in 1812.Nothing significantly better was built until Steam and Ironclad ships arrived in the 1860s

[@neilpage901]

Really enjoyed this, Chris. Some good analysis and some very interesting information which I did not know. thanks again!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you found it interesting. Thanks.

[@misspeacchy]

Wonderful presentation, Chris. As an American, I would say we won since we aren't British 😊

[@TheHistoryChap]

But his majesty would more than likely welcome you back 🤣

[@thegreypath1777]

@@TheHistoryChap - No thanks. The USA doesn't want to be represented by a king who has no morals (Charles), nor by his son (William), who is even worse.

[@justthetip7]

Great stuff as always!! Looking forward to more!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Ha ha, plenty more to come.

[@perrydowd9285]

If you try to imagine either The US or UK today, without the other, you're picturing a very different world.

[@TheHistoryChap]

I admit that I like the Americans.

[@SpongeBobSquarePants-zu3qt]

Britain needs American more. They have a stronger economy/currency and many big businesses from over the pond have billions invested in the UK economy whether that's in banking, engineering or any other industry. Britain's economy to a very large degree is manipulated by the changes in American's economy. Withdrawing from Europe has made Britain more dependent on trade with American.

[@chris1806]

@@SpongeBobSquarePants-zu3qt "Britain needs American more.." in order to invade other sovereign states and steal their resources...?

[@joebloggs4807]

Love the narrators enthusiasm makes for great entertainment

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks.

[@The_OneManCrowd]

We learned about this is school, but it's really covered in great detail in Louisiana school textbooks more due to the Battle of New Orleans.

[@TheHistoryChap]

I guessed it might be :)

[@The_OneManCrowd]

@@TheHistoryChap My college roommate was from Metairie which very near the battlefield and he knew all about Jean Lafitte and his pirates teaming up with the Americans. Guess he didn't like the English either lol 😆 🤷

[@shanebrown2009]

@@The_OneManCrowd The battlefield is near Chalmette, St.Bernard parish. Metairie is west of New Orleans in Jefferson parish. I've always wondered though what if the British army had won and seized New Orleans, the Treaty of Ghent was signed but not ratified. Would Britain have found a way to hold New Orleans as a chokepoint thus potentially preventing the US from being able to use the Mississippi River to its fullest potential.

[@Fred-px5xu]

I have but one word to describe this video lecture... BRILLIANT! Sir you have outdone yourself bravo!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very kind of you. If you haven't already, please subscribe to my channel so you don't miss future videos.

[@johnellis7445]

Thank you Chris once again you have blown me away with your detail , research and energy. I have heard a story long ago about the burning down of the White House . On that night the British where that polite the British soldiers actually knocked on the front door of the White House and asked to be let in . The British only set fire to municipal buildings and not the residential areas.

[@TheHistoryChap]

John, I’m glad you enjoyed it. You remembered a fair bit about the events.

[@tacraling]

Excellent! Very informative and enjoyable. Many thanks.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for watching. Have a great weekend.

[@sandtiger]

I was really ignorant of the War of 1812. Glad we ended up friends with Canada and Great Britain. Thanks Chris.

[@colinharbinson8284]

Rather overshadowed by the Napoleonic war, but it is good that we are friends now.....apart from the French..!!!😜

[@TheHistoryChap]

That's interesting. I thought it was just the British who aren't very aware about this war. Got another video coming out about the burning of Washington during this war.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Given me my first chuckle of the day. Thank you.

[@BeastOfBrierleyRoad]

I’m so glad you but this on!!! Thanks for listening to my request.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Hope you enjoy it.

[@BeastOfBrierleyRoad]

@@TheHistoryChap yes very much so, great analysis of the wars from both sides. Would love to see one of the America/Mexican war and the attack on the Alamo video at some point. Santa Anna referred to himself as the Napoleon of the west apparently.

[@rocksandforestquiver959]

At Queenston Heights and Lundy's Lane, our brave fathers, side by side For freedom, homes and loved ones dear, firmly stood and nobly died And those dear rights which they maintained, we swear to yield them never Our watchword evermore shall be, the Maple Leaf Forever!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jamessullivan7692]

Thank you very much I really appreciated the war of 1812 from the British point of view As usual very excellent commentaries and informative again thank you

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching.

[@hudl2464]

They are brothers. Every now and then brothers do fall out, but thankfully there's more to unite them than divide them.🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@TheIceman567]

Are you British?

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to post your comment.

[@dangermouse9055]

I agree

[@hudl2464]

@@TheHistoryChap , hi History chap, General Robert Ross and his regiments did a really good job on the white house. Pity General Ross never seen the end of the 1812 war. However there is a reminder to General Ross in the form of a very large monument in Rostrevor in Northern Ireland. General Ross had a long and dedicated military service, and the monument is inscribed with a detailed list of all his military campaign's. Thankfully our American cousins helped out in two world war's. 🇬🇧

[@dangermouse9055]

@@hudl2464 Ross had it coming

[@kiwifruit27]

Great stuff, love the enthusiasm and content

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks.

[@robertjohnson-taylor100]

Chris thank you very much for this, very informative and well put. As a suggestion have a look at one of my distant ancestors [Possibly?]. I think of him as the original “wild colonial boy” but unlike the Australian counter part was far more successful. He came from Armagh, and went to America, in his late teens I think, with the view that the streets of New York were paved with gold. And for him they most certainly were. He became a large land owner, possibly the largest in this young colony. He formed a militia by forming an alliance with the Mohawk nation, fought the French many times, built churches in New York, for some reason became a Maj Gen in the British army, the the Baronet of New York. He died after the war of independence, yet his pall bearers consisted of 2 states entities, 2 state governors and 2 member of the Supreme Court. He was an amazing character but the Americans don’t remember him. He’s worth of a good Hollywood film. As he helped in founding New York State. Who was he Sir William Johnson Bt. The real wild colonial boy.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Wow, Robert, what an incredible ancestor you have. Thanks for sharing.

[@rudysmith2946]

Wish I could have seen video like this in school, would have paid more attention.. Thank you, History Chap.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@61mod]

Brilliant Chris yet again,surely the burning of The Whitehouse 🇬🇧 made it a resounding victory ✌️

[@bullettube9863]

Actually the burning was accidental, and at first the soldiers tried to put the fire out. What really made the Brits mad was the burning of the naval stores and ships in the Washington Navy yard.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Think the best we can call it was a score draw :)

[@colinharbinson8284]

Or a home win after extra time.

[@rayzas4885]

Not when your army gets destroyed by a tornado afterwards

[@Hilts931]

American war aims were thwarted and their capital occupied and burned. Winnity the war win win.

[@alastairhunter353]

Thank you - very interesting and well presented. Thank you

[@jon9021]

I always wonder what would have happened if the Duke of Wellington had been in command of the British/Canadian forces.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very interesting scenario.

[@zeughaus1886]

The British Govt asked Wellington to study the campaign, thus far, and give his recommendation for the next steps. After intense research he gave it: “sue for peace”.

[@Mark-nx5pk]

Probably wouldn’t change much

[@craigparmenter9763]

I enjoy watching your videos. The War of 1812 is of special interest to me because I live in the Niagara Peninsula area which saw many battles and engagements of that war. A couple of noteworthy books I’ve read about the war are “The Civil War of 1812” which goes into great detail about many Americans and Canadians didn’t support the war. There was a common bond and trade between those persons living close to the boarder. United Empire Loyalists came to Canada after the American Revolution because they remained loyal to the Crown. The crown would offer land grants to people in America, as they wanted to populate the area, all they had to do was swear loyalty to the Crown. The other book is “ Strange Fatality the Battle of Stoney Creek”. This book goes into great detail about the Niagara Campaign in 1813. The British had been driven basically out of the Niagara Peninsula. The British did a night raid at a small hamlet of Stoney Creek and defeated a superior force plus captured two American General. This action halted the American advance in Upper Canada later to be known as Ontario. Also if it wasn’t for the natives assisting the British the outcome of that war would not have been status quo. I appreciate you stated this was an overview and more videos are planned. Thanks for taking the time to put these videos out.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing those insights into the people in Canada at the time and the war itself.

[@TheIceman567]

Aww the natives were defeated at the Themes.

[@unbreakable7633]

Some years ago, I read a history of the US Navy by a British historian (name escapes me offhand) and his chapter on the War of 1812 is titled "The Americans Teach Us a Lesson." And by the way, the US also fought the War with the Barbary Pirates before this war and it was a war with a foreign enemy. Just to note that.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video & for taking the time to comment

[@ThRealOJT]

You read 1 book, what does that prove?

[@karlmorton9881]

You also invaded Canada three times and got your arses kicked three times, that gave you a lesson And also the US sued for peace because of the threat of economic collapse.

[@ThRealOJT]

@ Find it cute how you call it the war of 1812... it was another front of a larger conflict for us, and we burnt the White House while fighting the actual main conflict against France.

[@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084]

Excellent and Outstanding Analysis!!!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

[@charlesscarpelli7939]

I live in Windsor where the first action of the War of 1812 was fought forcing Hull to retreat. There is Fort Malden nearby Dean and Hancock Bridge in River Canard and Battle of the Thames memorials around. Also a statue of Tecumseh and Sir Isaac Brock to commemorate their strategic meeting in Sandwich (now part of Windsor) has been erected. And we Canadians definitely won the War of 1812. Outgunned and outnumbered but never defeated!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks for sharing this information.

[@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69]

A few corrections here, Canada as a country didn't exist in 1812, nor did they Canadian Army. The Canadian Army was founded 19 May 1855. Furthermore, the province of Canada was founded 23 July 1840 with the passing of the Act of Union 1840, proclaimed by the crown on 10 February 1841. The British Parliament passed the British North America Act in 1867. The Dominion of Canada was officially born on July 1, 1867. Until 1982, July 1 was celebrated as “Dominion Day” to commemorate the day that Canada became a self-governing Dominion. Furthermore, by the Battle of Thames in which the US defeated both Tecumseh's Confederacy and a British Army on their retreat from Detroit after the Battle of Lake Erie, the US was left in control of a large portion of Upper Canada, an issue that was only resolved by the Treaty of Ghent. There were also several battles in which the British and their colonial allies were defeated, including York, in which the US captured Upper Canada's capitol (York) after having defeated both the militia and Regulars defending it. In fact by 1815, the US was still launching attacks on Upper Canada, an issue that Wellington stated was the reason for lessening demands made during the peace process as they had failed to actually defeat the US and secure Upper Canada from further attacks. In essence, Canada didn't win anything. It wasn't feat of arms or armies that saved Upper Canada, it was the Treaty of Ghent.

[@charlesscarpelli7939]

@@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 Ya so heres another uni indoctrinated “scholar” who can regurgitate information with a bad case of presentism. It may appear to you in 2022 that the Treaty of Ghent saved upper Canada but do you really think the conditions of that Treaty would have been the same if the USA had not been defeated at Queenston Heights Lundys Lane and the Chateauguay River? Any chance if they had taken Montreal they would have even made it to the negotiating table? This is the problem with people like you…you think you are educated and smart but fail to think critically. You make everything you see into an argument that you think is won by polished comments full of curated facts rather than using that knowledge to make intelligent comments. Your kind unfortunately has time for theses types of things…sad to say. 2 Things to take away from this today 1-Canada certainly did exist…qnd Canadian patriots saved the country by coming together from all walks of life to fend off a huge well equipped well organized nation from conquest. Farmers,loggers,hunters trappers tradesmen and fishermen fought valiantly alongside a group of tiny British regulars to win the day. 2- America had the idea of “Manifest Destiny” that it was their right to conquer all of North America…this doesnt sound like the Treaty of Ghent???…and also knew they so outmatched the country they were planning to invade that it would only be “a matter of marching” to complete the victory. The great British Navy coming off a victory at Trafalgar would undoubtedly have “solved” the issue of US control in Lake Erie especially since Montreal was still firmly in Canadian hands thanks to Charles Marie De Salaberry. Unfortunately for you the time is not afforded me to act as “Armchair Historian” in this comments section to pleasure you with a jousting match so you will have to continue scrolling to find a new comment to turn into an argument.

[@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69]

@@charlesscarpelli7939 you seem to have a very skewed view of reality, but that is par for the course when it comes to folks like you. Do you think the Treaty of Ghent would have been different had Britian not been defeated at Plattsburgh, Sacketts Harbor, Thames, Lake Erie, Niagara, Baltimore etc? Secondly, was Canada a country in 1812? No, it wasn't. Was Canada a unified colony in 1812? Again, no it wasn't. Canada wasn't even considered one colony, but several. The Canadian Army was founded 19 May 1855. Furthermore, the province of Canada was founded 23 July 1840 with the passing of the Act of Union 1840, proclaimed by the crown on 10 February 1841. The British Parliament passed the British North America Act in 1867. The Dominion of Canada was officially born on July 1, 1867. Until 1982, July 1 was celebrated as “Dominion Day” to commemorate the day that Canada became a self-governing Dominion. As for a "mere matter of marching", this was a single idea brought up by a single general because nearly 2/3 of Upper Canada's population was US-born. It wasn't Canadians who saved their country either, it was the British, and only through thr Treaty of Ghent did they achieve this because by 1815, the US was still in control of the region around Thames and still launching attacks into Upper Canada that the British were having a hard time dealing with (something Lord Wellington himself mentioned). The United States also had to contend with a continent of Spanish as well as numerous Native Americans Confederacies (such as Tecumseh's Confederacy and the Red Sticks). You outnumbered the United States on all fronts except the early year of the war and still failed to decisively defeat them, why is that? Why did 12,000 Napoleonic Veterans get bested by a small flotilla and some militia at Plattsburgh? Why did the Royal Navy with its vast experience and more plentiful ships lost so many single ship actions against the fledgling US Navy? Or what about the actual battles of Lake Erie and Plattsburgh where they were bested in actual ship combat? Again, you seem to have a very warped reality and I am more than happy to educate you.

[@charlesscarpelli7939]

@@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 The length of your comment and repetition of irrelevant information proves my point. Too much time on your hands bud

[@akadacat]

Very well spoken, a good synopsis. Thank you.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Nice words. Thanks for posting

[@stevedietrich8936]

I think this was an even-handed assessment of the War of 1812. I have Canadian friends who maintain that the Canadians won because they resisted American incursions into what is now Canada. Americans feel like they won because they were fighting to eliminate impressment, restrictions on free trade, and British influences on native American populations. In addition, the Americans decisively won the final battle of the war. I have always considered the War of 1812 a draw, with the obvious exception of the native American populations south of what is now Canada.

[@TheIceman567]

Are you British?

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your well argued comment.

[@stuartbuxton4316]

Great presentation Chris. Loving your book collection. Would love a video from you on your top 5 books and why!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Stuart, I like that idea. Thanks for the suggestion and watch this space

[@heinzh5687]

I'm an American with predominantly English heritage..the painting of Brock made me laugh because his nose looks exactly like mine, the bump on the ridge of the nose and the shaping of the nostrils

[@TheHistoryChap]

Ah, your heritage is calling (and maybe a long lost relative!)

[@heinzh5687]

@@TheHistoryChaplol, I'm really wondering because I've never seen a nose like that that matched mine so perfectly and it looks like the artist was trying to capture a mirror image of his features. Thank you for commenting, I was excited seeing I got a comment from you 😀

[@robertstark8527]

Yes another excellent video Chris.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.

[@davidcollins2648]

Well done for a condensed version of the war. There are 3 minor points I would like to raise: firstly that no President had the power to declare war. Madison wrote to Congress outlining complaints and it was Congress who did the actual declaration. Sadly the US has become a habitual offender for taking military action without any declaration of war so it's understandable people might think Presidents had that power. Philadelphia was the center of colonial government and fell to the British during the revolution. Lastly Francis Scott Key was a lawyer and later deemed a poet for the words which became the star spangled banner. All niggling points but worth a mention. America was a very deadly place for English officers to fight and an inordinate number were killed during the revolution and the war of 182. Keep up the great work Mr Green, you got all the essentials in.

[@etiennesharp]

I take it that Scots, Welsh and Irish officers were fine then?

[@TheHistoryChap]

David, many thanks for adding those interesting niggles.

[@johndowds5770]

Apparently the music was composed by a Brit .

[@ronalddevine9587]

Great video. What many of we Americans don't realize is that without this senseless war, we wouldn't have our National Anthem. Francis Scott Key wrote the words while prisoner on a British ship bombarding Baltimore. Most Americans learn this in school. Most Americans don't know that the beloved tune of The Star Spangled Banner is an old English pub song. So,as a proud American, I say thank you Britain, you taught us well. You gave us the democracy we cherish, and our go get them spirit. From the bottom of my heart I say THANK YOU.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it & thanks for your feedback.

[@DanBray1991]

Great video, not sure where the Canadian population being 80k around 1812 comes from. In 1806 Lower Canada had a population of 250k, Upper Canada 70k and Nova Scotia 65k. Far smaller than the USA, but not as small as suggested here.

[@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69]

Nearly 2/3 of Upper Canada's population had been US-born, ironically.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks.

[@nledaig]

Very good. I like your library too.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you

[@kingjoe3rd]

A naval victory on a lake is just as meaningful as one on the open sea. The Great Lakes are so large that they behave like the seas.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@alganhar1]

Except for one thing, Strategic control of international Trade. No battle on a Lake will EVER secure or threaten that. It can only secure or wrest away local control of the lake and its shoreline. A lake, no matter how big, is still a lake, not an ocean...

[@board-qu9iu]

@@alganhar1 it still prevented supplies from being able to support the British force in Michigan

[@Youtubechannel-po8cz]

What is incredible about this period is the war was fought on another continent. No technology, no phones, no engines on internet, imagine the logistics and improvisation required by the Canadians and the Brits. Also the British were fighting the French across the global on land and at sea. Good job we are all friends now. A part from when we clash in football and rugby.

[@margaretkairu7418]

RULE BRITANNIA!BY THE WAY,CHRIS,THANK YOU YET AGAIN FOR ANOTHER WONDERFUL VIDEO!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for watching.

[@holysmoke8439]

I should go visit old ironside once ....it's only docked 3 hrs away.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing.

[@gearyclouthier9008]

Actually tactically the British won the Battle of New Orleans. I liken it to having a winning hand at cards and walking away from the table. Once the navy guns were seized by the British (which caused the majority of British casualties) it was game over for Andrew Jackson. He would have seen the British flag raised over the navy guns across the River. However all the British commanders on the field of battle were either killed or wounded which left the General of the reserves in command. Seeing the carnage and unaware of the British advantage he called a withdrawal.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Funny how history could then have turned out.

[@heinzzingen3017]

@@TheHistoryChap Yeah that might of saved us from "Old Hickory" and his "Kitchen Cabinet"!

[@danielgray1104]

Great video. I went to Collège in Western Illinois where War of 1812 volunteers were given land grants and many of the Counties and cities are named after War of 1812 Generals, like Alexander Macomb and Thomas Macdonough.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks for sharing that info.

[@johnhudghton2287]

Thankfully there is more that unites us than divides us. I am pleased to have American friends and a lovely American daughter in law from a military family. Enjoyed serving alongside American brothers and sister in Saudi Arabia as a padre. However...we were screwed over somewhat by US administrations during WW2 - ended up with hyge endebitdness to them and over Suez as well. Yet the assistance we received over the Falklands was invaluable. We do have common enemies and must demonstrate a very united front against them.

[@TheHistoryChap]

John, you are so right. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@wor53lg50]

Assistance in falklands?? Thats laughable,what assistance was that then? and dont say asencion island either, and why would the content maker either acknowledge that and agree, im starting to loose faith in you now, and starting to think you got a agenda, there was no falklands help from yanks? , wars war you have to buy shit as in side winders through the Israeli's the same as we was still paying for arms from ww2 well into the 2015.... So tell me all the assistance was giving in falklands so i can check up, sounds as egotistical and bigheaded as if not for the mericans ww2 would have been lost?? , if you want to kiss yankee arse thats your decision, but call out BS and hype when written or im gonna un subscribe... Brits done falklands all on their jack jones if anything mericans was more of a hinderence than help.. Ironically the only person on side was the peanut who likes sniffing hair and ice cream thats in office now..

[@robhorne1342]

Very interesting Chris as ever and a war i didnt know anything anout probably overshadowed by the Napoleonic wars in Europe. Athough in terms of gains of land this war achieved little for either side it seemed to me it did a lot to shape the futures of both the USA and Canada .

[@TheHistoryChap]

Totally agree Rob. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment.

[@NothusDeusVagus]

As you've pointed out, one could argue almost indefinitely and still not be able to reach any kind of clear agreement as to who it was, other than those of the various merchantile houses of both the U.S and the U.K. won the war of 1812 but one thing I think is quite clear. It certainly wasn't the native Americans... Damn! I really should've waited until the end of the video before I answered your question...

[@TheHistoryChap]

Ha ha. i bet you used to turn over exam papers before your teachers told you to do so :)

[@NothusDeusVagus]

@@TheHistoryChap - Yup.. so eager to show how little I know ;-)

[@johnkeviljr9625]

Well done, well done! A Yank here. You are correct, this was a strange War. Jefferson had weakened the military very badly over his eight years President. Not an excuse - just a fact. So, the US had no business declaring war on anybody, let alone, Great Britain. I think after all has been said and done, overall, this might have been a draw. Thank you.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure, I’m glad that you enjoyed it

[@RoadmanRob8]

The British won. Objectives completed.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to comment.

[@TheIceman567]

Actually not

[@RoadmanRob8]

@@TheIceman567 Canada still in possession ✅ US expansion slowed✅ Native Indian still on side ✅ US sailors still press ganged ✅ French still held ✅

[@TheIceman567]

@@RoadmanRob8 not what happened. The us goal was never to annex Canada, The United States voted against annexation of Canada (prior to assault) on June 25th, 1812. This Decision affirmed and the final bill rejected on July 2, 1812 The Federalist party didn’t wanna go to war. Democratic-Republicans Felt that Canadians were unfit for citizenship and/or risk The balance of power being swing to the Federalist Party (As Canadians were closer in family/connections to the north east (at this point). The USA gained West Florida and moved into the the northwest territory, the native British-Alliance destroyed, end of impressment as seen during the 100% and the return of Napoleon in March 1815🤷‍♂️ please study. US goals end of impressment ✅ End of the British-Native Alliance ✅ And the end of the naval blockade✅ Respect from European powers ✅ British land grabs for an Indian state and Maine and northern Minnesota not gained ✅

[@RoadmanRob8]

@@TheIceman567 Treaty of Ghent

[@fredazcarate4818]

If truth be told Sir, for us Yanks, it was a moral victory. However neither the Americans or the British won. Yet both became stronger nation's after the brief struggle. Once again Sir thank you for producing another brilliant video on the subject. Kudos!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed.

[@alecblunden8615]

I suspect the Canadians regarded it as a massive tactical, strategic and moral victory in the suçcesful repulse of an aggressive and unjustified invasion. Frankly, the War was an attempted land grab with no moral element.

[@fredazcarate4818]

@@alecblunden8615 from the Canadian point view you are partially correct.

[@eifionjones559]

@@Belisarious5-600 that is America for you, they forget about their defeats, still do. Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan for example

[@alecblunden8615]

@@fredazcarate4818 Is there any other valid perspective? And I would ask since when has 100 per cent been "partial"?

[@michaelleblanc7283]

The late Canadian author, Pierre Burton published a set of excellent books devolted to the War of 1812 : 'The Invasion of Canada': 1812-1813 (1980) & 'Flames Across the Border': 1813-1814 (1981)

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing those books.

[@michaelleblanc7283]

@@TheHistoryChap Hope you follow up on them if you are not already familiar with Bertons works. The wonderful thing about the 'relatively' small scale wars in colonial history (vs contemporary European) is the unique personal intimacy it brings to students being introduced to some remarkable personalities who made their own little world turn at the time. The only sin in commited in their live sand history for them, was geography. None-the-less, archives for them are absolutely rich and make good fishing for anyone who cares to cast a fly in their direction.

[@toothedacorn4724]

I'd say Britian won on the grounds that sure they didn't add territory, but... it was a defensive war so that's kind of irrelevant

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for adding. It is a hard one to call.

[@toothedacorn4724]

@@TheHistoryChap hope that didn't come across as harsh

[@raymondpaul1780]

The Americans won this war and the one before, just look at the USA today🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@toothedacorn4724]

@@UserName-om6ft if Ukraine demands the Russians give them Belarus the war is still defensive because the Russians attacked

[@toothedacorn4724]

@@UserName-om6ft okay, the Austrians only declared war on Serbia because their arch Duke was assassinated there, it was still a war of aggression. The Austrians tried to be diplomatic, it was still a defensive war for the Serbians, pure and simply, if the enemy (America) declares war on and attacks you (Britain) it is a defensive war for you. You are defending against an enemy, counter attacking does not retroactively make your defence an attack, refusing to settle a dispute diplomatically does not make defending attacking, and even if a nation believes its war is justified it doenst make them attacking some how not defending, even a preemptive strike is offensive

[@donhansen1175]

I once saw a video that indicated that American privateers increased the cost of insurance on commercial vessels so much that it was a factor in getting Britain to settle. Don Hansen

[@TheHistoryChap]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[@stevealves1843]

Excellent analysis History Chap, my opinion is the Americans were more in the wrong than the British, and were defeated in their attempt at the land grab in Canada. But the British should never have abandoned the Indian confederation, which led to their eventual slaughter at the hands of the American settlers and military during the drive West.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks.