The Vaush Files Exposed: What Really Happened

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The Vaush Files Exposed: What Really Happened
Vaush is a political streamer known for his hot takes for his side of the political spectrum. While I don’t really keep up with any political streamers online due to a lack of interest, he had a recent accident on stream that blew up into a much bigger issue. If you thought Vaush being a man with hot takes was controversial, just wait for what we’re about to go through, cause what we’re about to see puts everything he’s said in a much different light now.
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00:00 - Intro
02:06 - Horses & Children
06:35 - Suspicious Clips
15:12 - The Leaked Taxes
23:30 - An Interesting Response
31:21 - ExtremeMaliciousness
36:00 - What Does the Future Hold?

[@Lanza00]

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[@MsMvsc]

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[@Ray-mj5mj]

I like your video, but really the first sentence should have been “Vaush is a creep who keeps loli porn on his hard drive and wants to fuck horses.”

[@passchen-fail3704]

Good video, man

[@sentientskittle8807]

Get that bag furry boi 💪

[@Ray-mj5mj]

I agree with your video, but you could have cut off 39 minutes and 25 seconds by just starting and ending with “Vaush is a creep who wants to do unspeakable things to illegal people and horses, and no one should take any political or life advice from him as a result.”

[@standlethemandle]

"sure cp is bad but like... capitalism, dude" fuck this guy lmao

[@daviddzwonkowski4722]

While being arguably the biggest capitalist you can be 😂

[@vla1ne]

@@daviddzwonkowski4722 The very existence of a rich *_socialist_* should be a paraodox beyond reasoning. every second he remains wealthy without implementing some plan for spreading his wealth among the people, is a moment of hypocrisy.

[@Silvreina]

Ignore the clipped-off end where he basically says "-But, both are bad and it is fucked up that society views the latter to be more acceptable than the former"

[@vla1ne]

@@Silvreina and the part where he for some reason argues that both end products should be legal if the product of one is?

[@Sandmann629]

@@vla1neunder the person he was speaking to's logic... holy fuck, you people how do you not understand the concept of showing someone their logic is flawed by taking it to its logical conclusions? how do you not understand the concept of "the person speaking an argument doesn't have to be the believer of said argument. you can reiterate someone's argument back to them without it meaning that you now too believe their argument because you spoke it" if someone tells me "the earth is flat" and I say "if the earth is flat then the physics of our solar system makes no sense" are you gonna then go "this guy thinks the physics of our solar system don't make sense!" and if not then why do it repeatedly to Vaush?

[@Bewilderebeest]

You *can* make tshirts, electronics, diamonds, etc without harming children. You *cannot* make CP without harming children.

[@wastedproductions45]

Explain how animated Loli harms children, not defending it, just curious.

[@halkon4412]

Agreed, but this isn’t a good argument against CP. The much better argument is that CP commits two sins. Not only is (significantly worse) abuse required to create it, its only purpose is to facilitate morally reprehensible fantasies _of_ that very abuse.

[@pencilpauli9442]

Well yes. But the fact is that capitalism DOES involve exploitation and harm of children. Vaush is correct in equating slavery and exploitation in the production of consumer goods with CP. They are both morally reprehensible outcomes of the capitalist system. To say that slavery is not as bad as CP as Lanza said is quite remarkable to me. It brushes the problem of how our goods are produced under the rug. Out of sight out of mind. To dismiss the exploitation and suffering of people including children in developing countries in such a blasé manner, as Lanza did is quite frankly disgusting. But it's dark skinned kids in a mine ,some place far away, so that's okay. But some doe eyed white child, heaven forfend they be exploited. It could be your own child! Shining a light on the hypocrisy of capitalism, neo-colonialism and child labour in electronic goods is a fair critique of the double standards of our society. Before you accuse me of anything, I have serious problems with Vaush's defence of the consumption of CP. It's a very libertarian take on the issue, and he goes beyond legitimate social commentary, imho.

[@pencilpauli9442]

My original response seems to have disappeared. I'll try to give the TLDR While you are correct, we live in a world that is driven by capitalism, neo-liberalism and neo-colonialism. I kind of agree with Vaush, in that there are double standards at play. A key factor is that if you buy electronic goods that have been mined with exploited labour, child or otherwise, the suffering is not apparent. CP on the other hand presents the victim of exploitation, and that makes us confront the morality directly. That may even include those who consume such media. IMHO Vaush's defence of the consumption of CP is problematic. His argument borders on a "whataboutism", and is too dismissive of people's reactions.

[@queencupcakke]

⁠@@wastedproductions45It fuels the sexual fantasies of pedophiles. Pedophilia is a form of paraphilia which, as a parent-category of disorders, share a common symptom of hypersexuality. I.e, they’re extremely sexually obsessed, and obsessed with whatever their particular predilection/fetishised is. When pedos view child abuse material, be it drawn or of a real child, they’re actively fuelling those sexual desires. We already know that in adults who become addicted or obsessed with adult pornography, they’re far more likely to develop unhealthy sexual interests and predatory sexual behaviours towards other adults. The risk factor is even higher when it comes to CP because children are even more vulnerable.

[@MadHatter015]

His whole child labor argument is so bogus. Just because you have a shirt that is made through child labor (horrible as it is) it is still just a shirt for the purpose of being worn. Having child porn is for the sole purpose of getting off to the abuse of the child, not to mention that being inherent I the product itself.

[@trentroberts6736]

Another thing that should be added is that whether or not a shirt is made without the abuse of a human being the end product will still be a shirt. And, yes as you rightly pointed out, the product of the latter will always be the abuse. The fact that so many people buy into such a deep abuse of logic is beyond me.

[@xdskiller3509]

Agreed. Also, an argument from a KZbinr called Badempanada said, "You can't know if a shirt is made by child exploitation, unlike CP, which child exploitation is the product itself."

[@MadHatter015]

@@trentroberts6736 Exactly. Such things can be made ethically even if it often isn’t. Child P cannot be made ethically by its very nature.

[@MadHatter015]

@@xdskiller3509 Yep, unless they’re psychic, a random normie isn’t going to be able to take a piece of clothing and inherently know whether a child slave from some hell-hole made it or the guy you knew who dropped out of high school 10 years ago. Lol

[@xdskiller3509]

​@@MadHatter015 totally , also another quote from badempanada is "people arent going to stores to ask for child labor diamonds or shirts unlike CP"

[@pokeninjafireemblem]

My argument against equating CP and child labor is that child labor is just an unfortunate consequence of people seeking the quickest route to wealth, whereas with CP the suffering of children is the entire point of the product

[@Battouga]

The biggest flaw in Vaush's argument is that sweatshops and child labour is the production line, not the product. In CP children are the production line AND the product. It's disgusting reasoning.

[@alqualonde2998]

@@Battouga This doesnt follow tho. Product is the recording of the abuse. Watching cartel execution videos should be illegal by the same definition while its clearly not. Im against watching cp being legal but im also aware that its an exception not the rule.

[@Battouga]

@@alqualonde2998 You're not following. Vaush made the argument that one unethical industry is bad (i.e. child labour) but people still buy products made by said unethical industry and all unethical industries are equally bad according to Vaush. If people are fine with buying cheap products made in sweatshops, CP should be equally fine. Ethically. But you can buy shoes, trousers, speakers etc. NOT made in sweatshops. The same can't be said about CP. The product is the difference, not the illegality of the production line.

[@lepit3943]

I think the point he uses is that child labor is used in production in a ton of things (it’s considered unfortunate part of capitalism) is bad But he uses it to justify what he does

[@ivandankob7112]

Don’t overdramatize - the purpose of the product is creating a specific p*rn. It can’t be created without the abuse by nature, but the abuse is not a purpose, it’s a byproduct Meat industry has no purpose of torturing animals, but it’s a byproduct of them trying to maximize their profit that results in unethical practices

[@syrupstarz4134]

8:27 BRO WHO'S WE?????

[@DjDeadpig]

Appeal to the common man argument, but it backfires

[@lowserver2]

his sick fans 💀💀

[@justbronson7570]

maybe "we" is MAPS or pedophiles that he knows who watch him calling him "based"

[@shroomer3867]

There's no argument where that make sense, even if you went crazy on a "site", you can just blacklist those tags

[@piranhalettuce]

"We? What do you mean We? Nintendo Wii?"

[@David-xi7vv]

Anyone that defends CP needs to have their hard drives seized.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

Give me one example of vaush defending cp

[@mmmapplesauce1673]

@@PuppygirlTransgive m- ACK

[@fkacoolgrl]

​@@PuppygirlTrans JUMP!

[@mikejones8808]

​@@PuppygirlTransdamn the pfp really do be drawing the entire picture

[@cheesybiscuits2103]

Someone consuming cp is likely to offend in a real person while some who buys a blood diamond isn't likely to open up a blood diamond mining facility. His mental gymnastics are laughable to say the least.

[@lepit3943]

Yeeee I mean both stem from child abuse, but one is a product (and process) of it and consumerism is only the process In short cp is bad because kids are in it and buying stuff is bad because it monetarily supports child slavery

[@cub_q]

Anyone is more likely to do that than slaves

[@greywolf7577]

Couldn't the opposite be argued as well? A pedophile with child porn has less need to find a real child to abuse since he or she already has porn to use? It's sort of like the people who use adult porn rather than getting into a relationship.

[@sassas1487]

@@greywolf7577The dopamine rush becomes less and less, your brain gets fried and seeks for more

[@trevnev2780]

​@@greywolf7577💀

[@PabbyPabbles]

"Let's get right into it" immediately followed by "but before we get into it here's today's sponsor" is peak youtube

[@chrono1543]

Listening to him argue so hard about the morality of CP is sus. Dude is why too invested on the topic and its weird

[@edwarddeere4925]

It’s more than sus bro, it’s incriminating lmao

[@warlordofbritannia]

It’d be one thing if he had a personal experience as a kid that makes him so…strongly against it. But to keep randomly bringing it up is disturbing.

[@exantiuse497]

Listening to him argue about it is sus when he literally showed on stream to have that material on his computer?

[@simoneidson21]

@@exantiuse497A single image of loli is not the same as having mountains of cp

[@rorschach5510]

​@@simoneidson21loli porn is cp.

[@PunishedKrab]

I can almost guarantee that Vaush wishes that he was the original Mr. Hands

[@Gvuz]

Ugh. 🤮

[@SleepyMook]

Vaush probably dreams about himself being Mr Hands.

[@misspeachtails]

wait wouldn't he prefer to be the horse?

[@Gvuz]

@@misspeachtails Seeing how vividly he talked about drinking horse juices... Maybe both...

[@notreallydavek7237]

The idea of a original Mr Hands bothers me because it signifies there has been more than one which is just messed up.

[@aspenx-qc3rm]

bro compared buying a shirt to liking kids…

[@DoggoDoesStuff1]

Yeah, it was a pretty poor argument. If only he'd admitted that it was and apologized a million times for it...

[@xy2447]

I agree @DoggoDoesStuff1 . Imagine if his online posts and comments weren't discovered or made public. He is the type of person to stand for whatever stupidity he is projecting. He won't acknowledge it until something serious happens.

[@DoggoDoesStuff1]

@xy2447 Can't really imagine what it would be like if they were never made public. Obviously, none of us know what would actually happen, and making assumptions on what would as an attack on someone's character is really silly.

[@xy2447]

oh no, you definitely can imagine it. We are not assuming here, just imagining.@@DoggoDoesStuff1

[@mantis8856]

The kid crafting a shirt gets some useful skills that can help him in life in he ever gets to the point he/she needs to craft some clothing for themselves or others in their circle (kids, family, etc). The poor unfortunate soul of a child that gets abused by adult freaks with ego of a mansion and lust of a bull, gets trauma and demons to fight instead of enjoying a beautiful childhood where is allowed to be a kid in peace without idiots intruding on their right to dignity .

[@hyvedra]

I would argue child [redacted] is worse than child labor not because it's vaguely more "gross," but because it's much more personal, able to be traced to the individual in the photos/videos/etc., which will follow them for life. Very likely the child is isolated and abused constantly outside of that; a child in slave labor is more likely to have some sort of friends/family (although trafficking in that regard can still happen). Slavery is absolutely horrible, and both are intensely physically + emotionally taxing, but there are solid reasons that [redacted] is not quite comparable. Enjoying the abuse because of the abuse, rather than obliviously enjoying a hidden blood labor product, is a... thick extra layer to that problem.

[@cannedrabies]

Yeaaaa thats why I had to stop watching this video, the only thing more infuriating than listening to a dude “play devils advocate” by defending CP… is listening to another dude make weak & lazy rebuttals that could easily be dismissed or twisted. “It’s more gross” is such a shit argument, if this was a live debate vaush would’ve had a field day with it. It’s appeal to ethos, it’s a logical fallacy, it can be applied to anything if you stretch it far enough- and that’s exactly what debate bros like him do, they take your arguments and stretch them to the farthest extreme to see if you’ll double down or backpedal. This video is exactly the kinda response vaush & dudes likes him thrive off of, they _want_ their opposition to make flawed points so they can epically own & destroy ultracuck whatever fuckin clickbait buzzwords they use. They don’t wanna discussion, they wanna fight, and win. This was a much better argument, and pretty much what I was thinking when I got to that part in the video. Not to shit on op, if anything I hope you enjoyed the video more than I did, but god I wish they made better arguments than just “it’s gross.” That’s what happens when you don’t ask yourself “Why?” enough.

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

When you're a 5th generation sweatshop/factory worker, then that's just the way things are. When you're the subject of CP it is always personal.

[@Emkito]

right? like, we have laws for different types of assault because they *shouldn't* be compared. murder isn't really the same as self defense, and cp definitely shouldn't be compared to slave labor

[@hannahp1108]

That's a really good point. It's a privacy violation on an unimaginable level, and yeah, once it's distributed, it will probably be always out there. Ugh. Those innocent little kids will become adults and still have that follow them for life. God that makes me mad that someone would argue it's fine and dandy.

[@other_horizon1085]

have you known a lot of kids in malaysian slums working their fingers to blister and bone to produce off brand poppy's playtime merch for TEMU? i don't think their lives are quite as cheery as you seem to think they are. if we can only determine the morality of the production of something by what the intended use is, that kind of completely oversteps any moral dilemma of the production of that thing. you could easily make the argument child slavery is *worse* than CP because instead of abusing a single individual child or group of children, child slavery consumes entire towns, cities, and generations of people with indefinite abuse. you could argue it's much worse because the choice to buy a product that was produced with child slavery is essentially confirming that the 3 dollars you paid for a shirt on TEMU or whatever is exactly what that child's life and labor are worth, because you more than likely don't even need that product. the production of CP is a self-contained issue with murky solutions that more or less boil down to harm reduction and intense scrutiny. child slavery could be solved by economic reform.

[@prodxdre]

you killed the cat. how could you. curse you for all of eternity. that cat was gorgeous, you wont be forgiven.

[@Lanza00]

the cat was the friends we made along the way

[@Rydrake6]

@@Lanza00 [Insert heartfelt orchestra music here]

[@GaussTheWarframe]

@@Lanza00🫡 rip furry Lanza

[@user-xr2lv4ll6j]

He killed a kitty? Oh no, that just won't do.

[@ALJ9000]

*grabs pitchfork* Where to, boys?

[@daisycheyenne13]

damn no views in 20 seconds lanza fell off

[@Lanza00]

thank you mcdonaldsworker5338

[@ShionfromYT]

We all fall off eventually homes

[@poochinsky]

working at mcdonalds would be a fall off for me. just sayin...

[@melb1016]

RIP. Let me know when he releases his crypto scam

[@Zynet_Eseled]

Great...the bots have created a new meme

[@leileyaravencroft]

I find it funny that Vaush called out ExtremeDad as being a predator when it was Vaush who was caught with anime child images and ExtremeDad told off the woman who was trying to bait him and then blocked her when she attempted to keep the conversation going.

[@LethalBubbles]

it's worth noting that vaush does not actually deserve any free speech points because he's been like this in the past But free speech is a defend it completely or lose it forever sort of thing so he's lucky.

[@65firered]

​@LethalBubbles Yes, well the benefit of free speech is that we can destroy him every time he says BS... which is every time he opens his mouth.

[@supermonstars]

ExtremeDad literally talked about sniffing little girls' underwear.

[@lurkinlikeaboss]

​@@LethalBubbles Free speech allows you to speak your mind but it doesn't protect you from the consequences of the dumb shit you say and I cannot wait until vaush finds out

[@sev1120]

​@@65firered indeed. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of said speech

[@possum-wx3by]

The most disgusting part for me was when he started saying "YOU support the mining of diamonds by child slaves and YOU support the child labor factories fhat make clothes" to deflect from someone saying that hes defending csa material. And continued to stand in that position for years. Many things we have are produced by factories that have child labor, and nobody feels giddy about it. The shoes I have to wear for work and the blankets that keep me warm and my hobbies that bring me joy more often than not were brought to me from factories. But I don't have the money or resources to create my own synthetic fabric or have animals to make leather and wool clothes or have easy access to pigments to make my own paints or grow my own cotton to make stuffed animals. Our society relies on that labor because many of us dont have the time or energy to make a dent in the mark we've left thru consumerism. Even though many of us would like to. Our society doesnt depend on csa material to run and boost our economy. Its disgusting to see a man be faced with his own immorality and try to hold up a mirror saying that unwilling participation in tragedy is hypocrisy and we are no better than him. Vile.

[@notreallydavek7237]

This was very well put.

[@BlurryNova]

I hate that he used the word support. I can't think of a single person out there just so excited and amped about child labor unless their the fking company owners who profit big time from it. I feel great shame when Im reminded the products I buy for survival were produced by ANYONE for shite pay and horrible work conditions, ESPECIALLY when that worker is a child.

[@cynicalmemester1694]

You can choose to not indulge in your hobbies.

[@possum-wx3by]

@@cynicalmemester1694 can we talk about how this guy wants to diddle children. Cause that was the point of the comment. How he deflected from wanting to hurt kids.

[@user-vgrau]

​​@@cynicalmemester1694oh yes, my favourite hobbies: wearing clothes and eating food.

[@ThePariahDark]

Influencer fans truly are just an inch away from cult members, forgiving their chosen lord Vaush things they would not forgive any other person.

[@Tubeytime]

I'm not a vaush fan in any way, but I think all of this drama is way over the top

[@saturationstation1446]

tbh , eurocentric culture is just a cult. you worship monarchs and believe inbr33ding is good and those who do it deserve to own everything on earth.

[@7RicolmE7]

@@Tubeytime you just proved his point.

[@Valkbg]

If the person was a conservative they would want their head.

[@L1ncore]

the fact that he takes an honestly reasonable take (that cp and child labour are both exploitative) and uses it to say theres no moral argument for making cp illegal is MENTAL. tells you everything you need to know about Vaush's moral compass.

[@timelordvictorious8610]

His argument is that they should be illegal, and he says as much in the middle clip that is sped up. He also mentions that society cares a lot more about one than the other (for arguably good reason given intend and harm), and it’s that apparent hypocrisy that people tend to ignore.

[@circus4796]

@@timelordvictorious8610 because people need clothes to live.... and society is heavily dependent on phones and laptops.... nobody needs cp to live. what average us citizen has the means to add learning to sew and produce their own clothes and laptops into their schedule while also working, providing for a family, attending college, putting money towards savings, spending time with friends or partner, engaging in hobbies, and other activities that are either requried or that lead to a fufilling life

[@argonhammer9352]

@@circus4796 You don't need child labor to live

[@Sandmann629]

he says he has yet to hear, not that he doesn't believe there isn't one. hear as in, no one is speaking about it typically we don't refer to things we say to ourselves as things we've heard.

[@circus4796]

@@argonhammer9352 ofc we don't, however, modern society in the US (from the prespective of an american college student) relies on products made from child labor. as far as i know, all phones and laptops require lithium batteries, and in order to get a job, i need to be able to have phone or laptop access. people should absolutely be criticized and informed on overconsumption of child labor products, buying the new iphone when the old one works fine, or people who can afford more expensive clothes opting for shien/temu products. child labor isn't required to live, but anyone who is using a device with lithium batteries is likely using a product made by child labor.

[@angellane1848]

“we’ve all” WE HAVE?????

[@awxrdg5256]

Who is "we"?

[@flarestorm9417]

He assumes everyone not only consumes pornographic art (which I assume is a niche in porn consumption), but that they're either into loli or lack the basic observation skill to tell what is and is not a loli. Heck, if you're going to an actual porn site, they'll have tags that tell you what the content contains, so people that don't want it can easily avoid getting off to it. How did he think this argument sounded good?

[@beeftips1628]

@@flarestorm9417as an occasional rule34 peruser. I can tell you that I actively avoid stuff like goblins, gnomes, vulpera, and midna bc to me they look like children and I’m glad to say that is a turn off. Him defending his loli stuff by saying they looked similar to goblins is just kinda 😬

[@JustADiamondBlock]

@@beeftips1628gnomes is wild, I can never see a garden gnome the same again.

[@ArDeeMee]

@@beeftips1628 You realize dwarfism is a real thing? And people fall in love with them? Just saying… stop being heightist.

[@ashnambers]

Quick correction at the 14:20 mark. He didn't say that he's against children and adult relationships... just about them having sex. So it's worse then you accidentally made it LOL

[@liittlemiissd]

he's against them having sex but he's fine with them being in a romantic asexual relationship?

[@PrettiMiki]

@@liittlemiissd yep. Cuz you know. That type of relationship is completely platonic, and has no possibility of ever being abusive. Just an innocent loving relationship, absent of the desire to express that love physically. Totalllyyyyy ethically neutral and justified. Just in case my sarcasm isn’t clear…He’s gross for trying to justify this and make it seem rational and normal. It’s crazy that his channel hasn’t gone the way of Mr.Girl.

[@liittlemiissd]

@@PrettiMiki but Vaush has clearly expressed interest in being sexual, he’s not asexual, I am asexual, he’s not.

[@PrettiMiki]

@@liittlemiissd understood and agreed. That’s why he’s gross.

[@argonhammer9352]

Dawg, his entire argument was that even if there was a theoretical relationship that was good, it doesn't matter and that those relations should be banned. He was explaining the difference between rule and act utilitarianism and used and edgy subject because he is very edgy.

[@angrymob6714]

WE MAKIN’ IT OUT THE STABLES WITH THIS ONE!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🐴🐴🐴 Vaush needs to quit horsin’ around.

[@mikeoxlong1395]

My man Bondrewd, all dripped out for the occasion.

[@Black_Knight767]

I'd argue the Poppy story is pretty damn important. Dude threatened to r@$# an autistic girl, and wheb she told him to fuck ogf, he said "no, you like it". More people need to know about it.

[@nomanejane5766]

Vaush is autistic too...but yeah he a weirdo

[@circus4796]

absolutely. regardless of age, abusive people tend to take advantage of those with mental illness/disabilities because even though they may be legal, young people with disabilities and mental illness are easier to manipulate due to many having low self esteem issues or being bullied. it is harder to stick up for yourself if you do not have a solid sense of self worth. he took advantage of her. (this goes for anyone regardless of how much of an impact their disability has on their life. i am also autistic as well and even though i am able to keep a job and live independently, i have communication struggles and sensory discomforts and other challenges in my daily life that make me feel alienated from others.) unfortunately, i was even in a similar situation with a highschool boy when i was in middle school in which he ended up saying something along the same lines... just because a relationship is legal doesn't mean it cant be abusive or manipulative. i definitely think it's not too unlikely that vaush enjoyed the power imbalance. psychologically, sexual deviants are generally motivated by a desire of power rather than attraction or love, and seeing how open he is about being attracted to depictions of animals or children, it's safe to say that he's a power-crazed lunatic.

[@argonhammer9352]

He is autistic too

[@simoneidson21]

People grow up. Get over it. We have all done things we regret

[@hannahp1108]

@@simoneidson21 I have never threatened to r*pe anyone, personally. The things I regret do not include threats of sexual violence, somehow!

[@Chordata7]

You know vaush is terrible when people on both ends of the politic spectrum hate his guts.

[@elianwyn]

to be fair, everyone on the left side of the political spectrum hates each other so that's par for the course

[@65firered]

Minus breadtube. Breadtube will defend its own as long as it suits them and Vaush has a lot of buy-in from them.

[@Aster_Risk]

​@@65firered Who on actual breadtube like Vaush???

[@Aster_Risk]

​@@elianwyn No, we don't. We just don't put on a fake front like conservatives.

[@Pandaxtor]

​@@65fireredFeels like its 50:50 but it still amusing to watch them eat each other.

[@dishsoap446]

Vaush when you tell him that child labor and CP are both bad and should be outlawed 😱 Edit: Poor word choie, I should say Vaush when he finds out other people already think child labor and CP are bad and should be outlawed

[@bobtheball5384]

He agrees that they're both bad- he never said one is better than the other

[@palehorse3435]

go watch the full clip, that's the exact point he was making. he just did it in a stupid and 3edgy5me way.

[@UzuSoap]

@@bobtheball5384 bob out heree in the comments doing gods work making sure people KNOW that vaush actually dosnt support child labor :)

[@I_Made_it_Up]

Or hes just a nonce

[@esbenm6544]

You still dont have a point. You're the one not getting it, he's the one saying that.

[@gusgablaw7375]

'It is POSSIBLE for an adult and a ch...' No. Stop.

[@squtnik]

I cannot believe he said that. Never heard of this guy before but I don't understand how a person can say that and think they're morally correct and at this higher level of thinking... what a fucking creep.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

If you listened to the argument you might understand that it's not defending pedophilia

[@Pouing12]

@@PuppygirlTransI don’t know about that. It sounded pretty weird..

[@darkstone64]

anyone who defends CP need to be investigated and have there hard drives seized

[@simoneidson21]

Vaush was literally doing the opposite

[@GuPKay]

Sex offenders vs Sex defenders

[@marioandloveyaplushmasters3374]

I think defending it would get you on a watchlist by default.

[@GuPKay]

@@marioandloveyaplushmasters3374 I think so too. Somehow, loli is not banned despite it being blatant CP.

[@darkstone64]

@@marioandloveyaplushmasters3374 exactly

[@fooliecoolie5284]

How has his computer not been searched yet? He's basically admitted to having cp.

[@vla1ne]

He says CP, CL, and loli are all equally bad, and consumes 2 of the 3 while arguing for the third "ironically". at what point is there enough reason to search him

[@PunishedKrab]

The FBI failed us

[@ThePaintballgun]

Hard drive challenge

[@pinkpugginz]

someone needs to report him to the feds

[@AndrewManook]

He is a fed lol@@pinkpugginz

[@naturallyirrelevant9639]

Quick note about your video, the Chris Hansen part was actually a cameo someone bought. Chris Hansen doesn't know anything about this drama to my knowledge.

[@Lanza00]

Thats even funnier ngl

[@stevexanny]

I’m just surprised Chris has kept that amazing hairline

[@skullmanprivate6232]

Now we also need Hank Schrader to say it.

[@JustADiamondBlock]

Poor Chris Hansen would probably be like “what the hell” that dude probably dosent know what loli is. The horse stuff on the other hand….

[@mvo9856]

There was a case in China where children were tricked into being assaulted in exchange for tuition money to go to school. The sex traffickers would pocket most of the money they made but gave a tiny bit to the children for tuition. When the sex trafficking ring was taken down and the scum running it were prosecuted for their crimes many of the victims were furious with the people who had saved them. The victims had put up with this abuse for YEARS so they could go to school and then it was all for nothing. They had to go back to their tiny impoverished villages and have no hope for a better future and suffer all the trauma they went through with no professional help. The fact that the victims were upset doesn't mean those people shouldn't rot in prison. It's evil that shit happened to those kids and it's evil that the government didn't do something to make sure those kids could safely keep going to school. When Vaush said that there could hypothetically be a scenario where a child benefits from being sexually assaulted by an adult, I think he was talking about something like what I just described. *He still shouldn't have said it and it still makes me fucking sick to think about ever watching Vaush's content again.*

[@sanfordrussell8549]

Still fucked up, and he's still fucked up

[@DD-ms4zr]

You're giving him waaaaaay too much credit, dude.

[@ichmich9324]

Why you watched it in the first place?

[@SpicyApplePie]

That reminds me of a company that employs imprisoned women. The employees are women that have really long scentences for repeated poverty crimes (sex work, selling drugs, or other ways to make money). The women decide if they want to work for the company or not, they're paid livible wages, and they get pto. So these women are making a living so that when they get out they don't have to go back into crime to get by, and it also gives them valuable skills to get hired elsewhere or start their own business. Of course, this is extremely different than your case because at the end of the day, the kids are being fucked over either way. Poor kids man....

[@XxXSkylezXxX]

that just makes me nauseous

[@Wnick1996]

Vaush is the type of guy to call everyone a zoo and yet has drawn zoo in his folder

[@argonhammer9352]

Where does he have zoo?

[@Cyrus_T_Laserpunch]

@@argonhammer9352 It's confirmed (I've seen it uncensored) he saves horse hentai on his computer, stuff where an anime girl gets railed by a horse. That's why the comment clarifies it's drawn, none of it is real stuff.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

1 its not zoo 2 its AI so both parts of that are wrong

[@STOOPIDDUMBY]

@@PuppygirlTrans Dude I get you're a socialist but try thinking

[@AlchemistDot]

Jesus Christ how has he not been swatted and had his hard drives taken away and searched after talking so much about BUYING CP

[@BlurryNova]

Probs cause he needs to be reported first. Unfortunately the justice system doesn't actually do anything until a report is made, and even then its all up to the matter of if they give enough of a shit to even go through the process of investigating him.

[@Sandmann629]

@@BlurryNovaas if no one's ever reported him?? lol wtf

[@BlurryNova]

@Sandmann629 Have you seen or heard anyone who has reported him? A lot of people just assume that since someone does something publicly like online that they don't need to report it to the police. Besides, how many people even know how to report this type of stuff in the first place? It's more than just calling a police department.

[@Cosmicgothx]

Dude this guy really has a problem with pulling out false equivalents. Like dude. Correlating slave labor with monetized child *R*, is actually insane.

[@jinsakai6157]

How do you not understand the comparison? Youre just choosing to be stupid here. A child gets abused for cheese pizza, thats awful, but atleast eventually it will end. Slavery is a life time sentence, and includes sexual abuse among forced labor and torture. So your argument here is Slavery which includes child R as well as being tortured and beaten and worked to the bone at the risk of death if you dont comply is somehow not as bad as cheese pizza, which is included in slavery anyway. Good argument.

[@Cosmicgothx]

@@jinsakai6157 I was talking about false equivalents. Which essentially means, "well, shooting a guy is bad, but so is robbing a bank." In other words, bringing up another topic that is loosely related to the current topic in a non-answer sort of way. I never said anything about any type of slavery other than slave labor, I am aware of the horrendous things that happen in this world.

[@jinsakai6157]

@gothartist6602 the idea is that if youre mad about the consumption of cheese pizza because it basically creates the market for it, you should also not own anything created using slave labor, because then you would necessarily believe that youre advocating for slave labor by fueling the market for it.

[@Cosmicgothx]

@@jinsakai6157 I am stopping this right here, because you're just regurgitating the same 'points' the faulty party is trying to use. Have a good day/night

[@missfazbear8810]

​@@jinsakai6157 With CP, The trauma the child goes through doesn't "end". The pictures and videos that were produced get sold and distributed throughout the years and continue to victimize and profit off of the child throughout their life. There are adults who are haunted knowing their pictures are out there being spread and viewed. That *never* ends. And the argument, Cp = slave *labor*, is just that, You can't add on sexual abuse just to make your claim better. Not every enslaved child goes through sexual abuse. I don't doubt that it happens, but for CP, the abuse *IS* the product. You buying a shirt doesn't mean you get a kick out of the possibility that some poor child made it.

[@The_Tension_Is_Real]

I got high and was looking for something to watch. And found this after like a minute of looking. This level of degeneracy made me sober up a little.

[@dominicfox101]

This comment goes hard while simultaneously being very true

[@itsicearmour]

8 minutes in and my man is making the argument that CSA should be open-source, and if you acquired it through non open-source means he thinks that SHOULD constitute going to jail, to then segue his point into "it's all abuse under capitalism", spouting at others that they're terrible for buying products that are produced using slave labour WHILE STREAMING. What an incredible take. You don't point the fingers at the consumers for buying what's available on the market, you point fingers to those who produce it and make it available for purchase in the first place.

[@starbird3939]

The child labor argument is bullshit. We need clothes, and some need cheap clothes. And because of how everything is online-I argue that we do need at least one device that connects to the internet. But there is no inherent need for CP. none whatsoever. It is absolutely pure exploitation and harm to a child for the selfish gratification of a predator.

[@Skilletking2010]

So youre happy with child labor because we need stuff that could be ethically sourced instead?

[@TadBaterbomb]

@@Skilletking2010they never said they were happy with child labor. They said that child labor is a product of society’s need for cheap goods. Clothing is utility, cp is degeneracy. It serves no utility other than to have people who engage with it get their rocks off.. child labor isn’t good by any means. But the end result of produced and/or distributed material goods is a lot more palatable than the end result of produced and/or distributed cp.

[@Noel-jb5wb]

I think this guy would take the saying "Hold your horses" too literally

[@ahouseofpomegranates4338]

also why on earth do people even save porn on their computer like. i do not get it

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

The argument that I've most often heard (I don't get why people do it either) is that when you have... eccentric tastes, you can have difficulty finding pieces a second time because they might only exist on a single site where if they are deleted they are gone. So, they save them because they don't know if they could find the piece again. On the opposite side, people find a piece among a sea of similar pieces, but this one tickles their fancy in a specific way, and don't want it to be lost in the waves.

[@JamesP7]

Idk why. I just save bookmarks for things I like or want to read/see later.

[@vla1ne]

If you find something especially good (an asian-ginger threesome vid for example), sometimes you just save it for in case it's wiped from the face of the internet.

[@greywolf7577]

Because if you save it on your hard drive, it is far easier to find in the future. Plus you continue to have it even if it is taken down off the internet. It's very strange to me that someone wouldn't save porn. Why waste your time looking for good porn when you can just already have it?

[@PuppygirlTrans]

He's thinks jerking it while on your phone is wierd (his only bad take)

[@NotUp2Much]

Never ask A man his salary A woman her age Vaush about his hard drive

[@1WEareBUFO1]

If I never ask a woman her age how will I know if she's a goblin?

[@retr0307]

@@1WEareBUFO1you can tell a human woman from a goblin woman by if she is sharpening her axe and constantly asking to raid the local camps

[@thegalacticfederation1212]

6:08 That's Star Butterfly from the show Star vs. The Forces of Evil, I remember watching when I was younger. Pretty disgusted by the drawing of her.

[@TheTundraTerror]

It really took people this long to finally notice what's been going on, huh?

[@65firered]

Vau$h exposed himself to a wider audience this time.

[@TheTundraTerror]

​@@65fireredpretty sure his audience is already pretty "wide"

[@Aster_Risk]

People noticed. They just didn't care and used "It's a joke," for plausible deniability. Vaush watchers are just as gross as he is.

[@hobosapiensSinceShadowMoses]

First time i see him, already know the deal. Soyboy calling everyone nazis are most of the time weirdos with disgusting fetish.

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

Vaush is an ally to the cause, and for that reason you'll find that people will excuse a lot of bad shit. That and I think commies are just more often bad people hiding that fact from themselves or others by justifying the means to an end.

[@rougarouteepell4801]

Also on the child exploitation argument. CP is unable to be made without children, whereas all other forms of child labor exploitation doesn’t require children to function.

[@Sandmann629]

child labour doesn't require children? *child* labour doesn't require *child*ren hmm you know what i think you people are right and this is a good smart argument with lotta thought put into it and from now on we should just keep doing child labour but without any children, problem solved, culpability avoided, done and dusted

[@Sandmann629]

if you did the same thing, and took the child exploitation out of cp, then you'd just have exploitative porn... which exists...

[@thehermit8618]

​@@Sandmann629they mean that all the industries that currently use child labor can keep functioning without it. Children explotaition are not essential for it development in any way, its only a unfortunate circumstance brought by greed and unregulation. CP needs children by design because their abuse is the product itself. If you acted in good faith listened to the argument from a nuanced, fair perspective you'd come to this conclusion but its clear you defend Vaush with your blatant misinterpretation of the original comment.

[@spencerhopkinson9874]

@@Sandmann629 pure copium

[@CJ_Brim]

Idk what kind of fairytale world u live in but…. Child labor requires children it’s literally in the word….

[@MrNeoEvolution]

i fail to understand how after all the cancel culture we have came to a point where this behaviour is tolerated and this guy is not only on a list but able to still tweet, stream etc. Where has the world gone, this guy needs to go

[@kjone5086]

Its because vaush is a communist, remember its fine when communists specifically do anything bad. Mad gone world!

[@pinkpugginz]

I hope the feds nail him. Eventually he's going to try to download something and he will get caught online

[@AndrewManook]

No one questioning why he hasn't been searched?

[@HumanZombie99]

On the buying CP=buying t-shirt argument I'd like to add when buying CP there's no way to not know it's creation harmed children (unless it's depicting almost legal people). If someone get's caught possessing a t-shirt made from slave labor there's little you can do to prove that the person bought the t-shirt knowing slave labor was involved.

[@Zillathegreenkajiu]

When did Lanza become scp 683?

[@Yuki_Seraphim]

i honestly dig the new design

[@ProxiProtogen]

Can't be a cute cat boy while reading allegations. Have to be cool skulldog boy

[@mauropereira187]

@@ProxiProtogenthats what made him unique, he sounds more like a cat boy than a rough skull dog

[@ProxiProtogen]

@@mauropereira187 exactly

[@thegalacticfederation1212]

18:53 MF she isn't even green. You can't just use that excuse.

[@leobuana7430]

And this is a fanart of a popular Vtuber from Hololive

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

He wasn't saying the character was a goblin, just that they were drawn similarly. He's lying through his teeth though, if you look up the vtuber's avatar there are pretty much no curves to be found.

[@NovikNikolovic]

It's not about the color, it's about the body type. And uh, yeah, ain't no way those are goblins. The art style is that very realistic anime/manga art style where you just CANNOT mix up the two.

[@thegalacticfederation1212]

@NovikNikolovic Yeah, I was saying, I thought he said he thought they were goblins, and that why I mentioned them not being green.

[@NovikNikolovic]

@@thegalacticfederation1212 and I'm saying the color isn't always something to go by. Someone can easily draw a loli with green skin. It's more so the body type, because you can draw someone short af but what gives them away as adults is the bazongas and the thighs. With an ultra detailed art style as what's seen, yeah it's clearly a kid. I didn't mean to nitpick at all, sorry.

[@orsonb203]

how the fuck is CP on the same level as a fucking tshirt 😭

[@pinkpugginz]

right!!!!

[@greywolf7577]

He's talking about child slave labor.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

Under capitalism buying cheap t shirts also leads children to harm since it's most likely produced by severely underpaid or unpaid child labor its just a very edgy argument against it comparing it to something as bad as cp to point out how fucked working conditions still are

[@lazuralynja5604]

idk who vaush is but the fact theres a horse and an anime girl in the thumbnail made worried

[@EnderSalad]

yeah, it's BAD

[@ignightroad]

He used to be a mod for a huge furry website but after it came to light he was a rapist, he stepped down. It's been worse since then.

[@snowmexican8558]

Count yourself blessed that this is your first exposure to this garbage person.

[@passchen-fail3704]

Remember, he wants to be the horse, apparently with the little anime girl too

[@TakoTrucker]

@@passchen-fail3704being attracted to tatsumaki (girl in the thumbnail who’s 29 but looks like a 12 year old) is a big red flag imo

[@fluidwolf]

Him trying to say adult kid relationships would be fine in his socialist paradise just feels....yikes.

[@Sandmann629]

yeah that's probably why he's pointed out why that was stupid

[@PuppygirlTrans]

Dude how the fuck do you get the idea that he said that???

[@msmsmsms8515]

Foucault moment

[@awesomezombie4565]

@@PuppygirlTranshe literally said that watch the video

[@PuppygirlTrans]

@awesomezombie4565 give me a timestamp I'm not watching 40 minutes of brainrot for one sentence

[@koalaiscool4263]

I think bro might like kids 💀💀💀

[@lbf9213]

21:26 "One where she looks suspiciously young, and small. Which doesn't really help out his case at all." Why that sound like a Dr. Seuss bar????

[@MatecaCorp]

WE’VE ALL WHAT? WHAT? WHAT???

[@GuPKay]

Who is this we lol, I don’t consume that material (I’m a normal person)

[@ladyvanda]

Commentary YT has bravely drawn a line in the sand, it’s been incredibly inspiring. “Harming kids is wrong”, “kicking puppies for pleasure is fucked up”, etc… I’d like to add my voice to the mix and solemnly declare, hand on heart: bad things are indeed not good. Let’s keep the momentum going, our philosophy (our general pro-good and anti-bad views) is gaining traction and momentum.

[@kogamustard7717]

Back then commentary channels were straight up bullying. Nowadays its like "bad thing bad and general opinion is good". Miss the middle ground these channels faced where they couldn't bully and didnt want to be a goody 2 shoes

[@Bigsharter]

@@kogamustard7717tf do yall want them to say 💀

[@fatsassin2546]

@@BigsharterYeah, i don’t understand it either

[@GOTTA_RUN]

@kogamustard7717 commentary channels are just as toxic though. Just now have "morals" to back up their reasons to act how they do now

[@Bigsharter]

@@fatsassin2546 the thing is that ALOT of people are still defending vaush Epstein, some of which are still giving his channel views and donating to him thru twitch when that mf should be banned. so I don’t get the complaining about people rightfully calling his ass out..

[@andrewk2886]

Imagine his shock when he realizes most people hate that stuff AND child labor. There isn’t some secret majority of the public that is okay with child labor out there in the aether.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

Yet people don't consume CP but do consume products produced by child labor curius huh?

[@thetoddperspective]

The difference is, it is possible for diamonds and lithium to be procured ethically.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

Analogies don't have to perfectly accurate the Analogy still works in the point its there to make which is that both are produced under unethical means but one is widely considered okay to consume but the other isn't

[@randomusername3873]

​@@PuppygirlTranshis point is unhinged When you own a computer you are not doing it because of the child labour, you do it because you need It Cp consumers do it because of the child abuse It's not the same at all And even if vaush think they are, him owning that stuff makes him evil

[@lukegarner6948]

Damn that child labor argument is just... despicable. "Child labor exists in both, so both bad!" Well, in one the literal commodity being bought and sold is the child harm! A necklace inherently is not bad - child exploitation is. I remember a lecture in my World Bank course in college that it's a legitimate argument in third world countries that sometimes the kid has to work due to the dynamics of the familial and social structures. Even if capitalism didn't exist in its current state, poorer families in some part of the world would still experience the issue of child labor. Never ever ever ever are we talking about the benefits of those children engaging in horrific acts. There's a CLEAR difference - Jesus.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

He said it's a flawed analogy having one bad analogy in like 5 years of politics streams is a pretty good track record if you ask me

[@URnightmares162]

Bro is a lost cause, ewwww, definitely jail time for him.

[@deatheternal720]

Saying "waaah you not angwy at dis but you angwy at dis so it not wrong!! wahhh!" is the most smooth brained argument ever. Vaush should not have a platform at all. "i'm objectively right on this" oh god. he has got to be rage farming.

[@lemonsmug]

sometimes i think about eating bugs.

[@theonlyplain]

i really think we should normalize eating bugs

[@65firered]

You will eat the bugs and be happy.

[@EnderSalad]

I've heard they are good for you, but I don't have much to back it up 😔

[@lamedrawings]

we eat sea bugs, land bugs is just the next step

[@toasturhztoastbunz896]

​@EnderSalad They're filled with much protein. Even more than fish or chicken combined. Make sure you cook them though. Eating them raw is bad.

[@boirnoboiovanna1130]

The fact i used to support this freak disgusts me, i was just desperate for positivity on trans topics and i blindly supported him cause he posted some trans positive stuff

[@Lisa.isnt.Lisa22]

We all grow, live and learn. Huge respect to you for being able to remove yourself from his community. Hope you're doing well

[@boirnoboiovanna1130]

@Lisa.isnt.Lisa22 I am, i appreciate this comment, I'm also doing my best to help others that are in the situation I was realize the same thing i did before they do anything they'll regret

[@malegirlboss]

Proud of you :) Have a wonderful day.

[@sapphicwriter]

How people still manage to like either Destiny or Vaush in 2024 is beyond me.

[@NovikNikolovic]

What did Destiny do? I didn't watch him.

[@daviddzwonkowski4722]

Ppl politically far left is beyond me

[@sapphicwriter]

@@NovikNikolovic Mock a sexual assault victim and also mocked the genocide of Palestinians

[@NovikNikolovic]

@@sapphicwriter holy f*ck, I'm GLAD I didn't watch him now...

[@halkon4412]

@@NovikNikolovicNeither of those things happened lol

[@ClypssiusStar]

Im happy there are people so delusional their comfortable exposing themselves online for the world to see, helps get these people away from kids. The loli art was one thing, but he's so adamant about trying to normalize having cp it's scary!?

[@Kanaleah]

I like your comment, for both because people should be allowed to say and express what they think no matter how morally repugnant so we can shine a light on the people to avoid, but also I'm just glad to see someone in these comments defining a difference between lolicon art and CP for once. It's not that both aren't immoral, but one is victimless crime of thought/expression and the other is not. Yeah, Vaush is a horrific human being, and I wouldn't trust him within 1,000 yards of a child after the arguments that he's made. Unfortunately, people like Vaush make it very hard to argue in favor of the freedom of speech.

[@argonhammer9352]

Except, he never tried to do that

[@PuppygirlTrans]

Give me a single example of him trying to normalize CP

[@crest_o_razors]

His cp logic is among the most goddamn stupid takes in human history. It’s like saying “9/11 was worse than the Holocaust.” They’re both horrible things, but comparing them is very poor taste. It’s a reason why I think some people don’t deserve free speech/a platform to express their opinions.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

If it's bad taste or not doesn't matter the logic works out and makes an interesting point

[@childeater7327]

Bro is an absolute professional at digging his own hole

[@Thelordofhate]

Random chump: pedohilia is bad Vaush: source?

[@octosalias5785]

Yeah its clear from his early comments on animals and young people that he has or had no consideration for the feelings of others, if he can justify something its ok and well he makes a living justifying his position

[@gryficowa]

This young "Girl" is Star Butterfly, famous for committing mass genocide in the finale

[@Thenumberstationangel]

I don’t see what bearing the actions a fictional girl has on a situation were a real ass man is endorsing cp and zoophilia

[@JamesP7]

That show was ruined by the finale and the shipping wars corrupting the show. Such a loss…

[@theriverotter_]

8 comments from one dude in 7 mins 💀

[@dripstein5068]

We have lost the effect of shame in our society. We live in a society moment.

[@X-ite]

having his taxes in the goon folder is CRAZY

[@bugdestroyer1258]

the rule utilitarian shit is so bad. would you really let a drunk driver off scot free if he didnt hit anyone? no, if he does it again there is a very high likelihood he will hit someone.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

What you just described is act utilitarianism not rule utilitarianism

[@sartrecamus386]

That‘s not rule utilitarianism

[@mariylle_9166]

It's not "I realize that what I use to say was awful and insensitive, i hate looking back," it's "I look stupid". He doesn't care about ethics; he cares about looking superior to his audience.

[@lord_boneman]

Vaush is an anomaly to me. Like Moth he truly is the hypocritical agent of his own destruction, but when Moth got big he got critics on him near immediately. Meanwhile when Vaush got big, to me, it felt like everyone waited to critique him. I feel like everyone waited until it was “safe,” and picked the least of the problems with him as the green light. To me, the loli problem is probably the least big of his issues… well, is what I would say, if it weren’t for the fact that Vaush himself said that loli is CP. However, while I am mad that people are only going after him now, I can’t deny the feeling of schadenfreude from seeing this degenerate finally fall. Edit: Jeez I didn’t even know about the part about him justifying the horse porn because “It’s drawn- no wait it’s AI generated.” Again, he doesn’t think the same about lolicon so WHY WAS IT ON YOUR COMPUTER, YOU HEATHEN!

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

I can't say that I'm very familiar with this Moth guy, but Vaush is a commie, and his audience of dumb commies let a lot of stuff slide because the ends justify the means. If Vaush existing converts more people, then it doesn't matter who he really is or what he does, because he is an ally to the cause. It's the same as Hasan being a massive hypocrite champagne socialist. He is good for the cause, so it is considered acceptable.

[@nomanejane5766]

I mean, who is gonna watch hours and hours of a streamer unless they are a bigfan? Moth vids were like 15mins long

[@cvargggg5921]

Loli isnt CP

[@lord_boneman]

@@cvargggg5921 I know that, problem is Vaush believes they are the same. Which begs the question of why he had it on his computer.

[@chadalpha7983]

When asked a question about Alexandria Octavia Cortez, Vaush said I think the AOC should be lowered

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

I would like to know what people's justifications are for why its ok to sexualize a horse being r@ped but not a little boy being r@ped by his teachers or whatever. "You're the horse, good for you" "You're the boy, good for you" Both involve someone incapable of giving consent, roped into sex acts by individuals who can and have all the social power over them Horses being large and powerful is not an excuse btw. There are 6"5 14 year old boys who are physically more imposing than 90% of grown men

[@JamesP7]

This is why people should just allow all art (that isn't based off of real life children or involves tracing real children). Because the moment people say "this thing I don't like is not okay, but this thing you don't like I find okay" just makes a muddled mess where everything becomes villified.

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

@@JamesP7 That's sort of my mentality at this point. ESPECIALLY given how many grey areas we might stumble upon.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

​@@JamesP7The fact that you think my comment is a good argument in defense of drawing children getting r@ped says a lot about you, James. I really hope you are this comfortable saying your opinions in real life, because people around you need to be aware you think these things.

[@JamesP7]

@@Sergio-nb4hj It is a good argument. Just like I don’t think people are monsters because they like Game of Thrones or Call of Duty. The people around me are too homophobic and transphobic for me to feel comfortable around them in any respect, so I’d rather not let them ind out my political ideologies. They use the word pedophile synonymously with gay, so I’m not gonna put my faith in any sort of moral judgement of theirs.

[@roadent217]

@@Sergio-nb4hj "The fact that [there] is a good argument in defense of drawing children getting r@ped says a lot about you, James." Yeah. It says that he's a champion for free speech and artistic expression. Unlike you, who is a close-minded moralist who wants to ban anything that offends your sensibilities. We should also ban drawn art of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), and also ban all satire ever. /s

[@Mistertbones]

Vaush is Reddit personified.

[@Matthias_Prudholm]

38:16 Vaush has a pint on Midna, mainly because charter age established that the firm is a cursed form of being an imp which does not change the fact that she is an adult twill which is shown after she gets the curse broken and becomes tail Midna once more, do not ask me why imp Midna is drawn more the. Tail Midna though as I literally do not know besides popularity or whatnot, that is all though everything else is pretty messed up for certain

[@Slashthekitsune]

To paraphrase the way a shitpost voice AI of a certain god-like Morrowind character put it: "It says something when the taller, non-cursed form was less sexualized in the game she's from"

[@sporkles7427]

⁠@@SlashthekitsuneDagoth Ur 😍🥵☺️

[@PokemonkaDub]

Vaush uses a lot of smart words in a very beautiful sentencess but still spills pure worthless bullshit. That's a true talent.

[@rylanasher4756]

That is a good summarisation of Vaush's style. I think the same way about Vaush as you.

[@the_sorcerer]

I wont police anyone for making a one off pedo joke or a bunch of them. But I will start considering them suspicious. Ive been on forums and gaming communities since I was 12 and its always the guy who makes a lot of pedo jokes who gets exposed for having cp, seeking it, or messaging kids. Also. Its wild how anyone supported and defends this guy lmao. Did he really try to say cp should be allowed cause we have sweatshops full of kids and thats just as exploitive and damaging to them?

[@pinkpugginz]

his thought process is fundamentally flawed. i cant wrap my head around it. he also spews word salad and doesn't ever know what he's talking about.

[@the_sorcerer]

@pinkpugginz i agree. Its just an overflow of multisyllable words and being condensending.

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

@@pinkpugginz Yeah it's almost like he's trying to cover the fact he like chhz pizza

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

Yeah NGL it's usually either that or people who flagrantly try to pedojacket others that get outed for this sort of thing. I think it could be some attempt at deflecting by either trying to use the "it's a joke" excuse or trying to be against said thing at a performative manner, both aimed at minimizing suspicion.

[@argonhammer9352]

No, he did not say that

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

Another thing that I think is kind of important is that Vaush, when pushed, stated that he thinks men find 14 to be the peak age of attraction for women. As in most men desire 14 year old girls. Imo, he is either projecting, or delusional.

[@squtnik]

Wtf

[@PuppygirlTrans]

Bro just take a look at porn for example why do you think shit like "18 year old teen barely legal" and stuff along those lines is so popular on porn sites if there aren't a ton of creepy guys who have Hella predatory age preferences

[@Pouing12]

@@PuppygirlTransdoesn’t make it moral though.

[@7evenseas975]

Good news: the girl in the thumbnail is of age Bad news: EVERYTHING ELSE

[@hollowsteel]

What about the horse…..

[@Abigzerolol]

@@hollowsteelmr hands

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

Yeah it's kind of unfitting he chose a character that's an adult for the thumbnail of this video.

[@Abigzerolol]

@@100organicfreshmemes5 it’s mainly the Epstein crusaders who say she’s a ykw but she’s like 26 and petite

[@7evenseas975]

@@hollowsteel I said everything else

[@birdsmoko]

Was not expecting to find out Chris Hansen got his two cents in too 😂

[@smunch24]

i don’t buy a shirt BECAUSE its made by a child. that’s the difference

[@squtnik]

☝️☝️☝️ this.

[@PuppygirlTrans]

The way you wrote this makes me think you belive this some how defeats or even goes against vaush's hypothetical

[@CJ_Brim]

Ahh yes therefore child labor is ok right? Man shut up

[@notreallydavek7237]

11 mins in and this guy is already picking some of the most warped ideology I have ever heard as his hill to die on. Ive only known about him for less than a hour and I'm getting a headache.

[@user-gh8dn5jl1c]

You deserve respect for being the first person I found who made one of those videos with good faith arguments and without taking it out of context and still criticizing the bad things he did

[@TheNumberThirteenxiii]

How has his channel not been taken down yet?

[@supertajnykana8146]

KZbin defends human trashes like him. But you say some no no word one time and you can say goodbye to your channel. This is insane

[@SqualidsargeStudios]

simple, YT never does anything to creeps and criminals like that, just look at the bs with that SSsniper that literally has done criminal stuff AND doxed a person close by, and then have the gall to pretend like it was the victim. utterly disgusting. then again yt and goog don't care about the safety of it's content creators that doesn't make it enough money. if you manage to read this then that's great, cuz i am near 100% sure freedom of speech is no more and this comment get's deleted within not too long because no one may speak ill of the cash-cows

[@PuppygirlTrans]

For what??

[@wallclock4648]

@@PuppygirlTransI was about to answer then I saw your pfp

[@askaykeeners8712]

ok the fact he talked alot about horse sex then had it on his hardrive makes me think theirs 100% cp on his pc cops need to come

[@miriampeters4384]

Ironically when I first came across Vaush it was a video where he was calling out Shane Dawson for being a weird creep. This was back in 2020 when Shane’s past came back to haunt him. Vaush was saying things along the lines of ‘you can’t tell if someone is a predator but pay attention to whatever seems off’ or something like that. Projecting much??? Anyway after seeing some of his content i felt a bit off about him and I didn’t know why and here we are today… oh boi

[@pohretra8485]

I do agree with basically all your points about him defending C/P and z00. That stuff is awful. But I feel that mentioning the art and AI generated images on his computer is just muddying the waters. Who tf cares about the l0li or horse art/AI images? The issue is him condoning those acts irl. Also the "goblin" defence is super funny and generated good art of a goblin version of that character. So at least something good came out of this bad situation.

[@Pouing12]

I definitely think it could be supporting proof of his values more than anything else! I for one think “artistic” depictions can often times show one’s bias and core beliefs.

[@NosnebNosnebNosneb]

How are people still following Vaush

[@SneakyBeakySpy]

I don't think myself a very sensitive guy but Vaush is overall repulsive. I was writhing with disgust at some of the stuff he said.

[@speakerblow8607]

If this happened in like. 2018 or 2019 id be shocked and horrified and all that shit. Now? Now i just feel completely numb.

[@Catglittercrafts]

Moral of the story, never trust a libertarian.

[@T-h-a-t_G-u-y]

Why is Tatsumaki in the thumbnail?

[@capjpeg]

The topic of vaush made the cat die from cringe

[@HyperakaV]

I was just about to ask wheres the video at i need something to keep my mind off this life we live thank you lanza also your discord invite link doesn't work

[@jadedjoshe9436]

Its so wild to see this man get exposed for the same stuff every couple of years

[@PuppygirlTrans]

Yeah and people still fucking buy it after he addressed it multiple times

[@ramenaddict1676]

god he gave me weird vibes anyways. never trust a neckbeard.

[@inception1695]

Bring back the cat!

[@Cocytus127]

I look forward to reading the headline that either mentions Vaush’s untimely departure from the world or his arrest for whatever questionable behavior he is found to have been involved in concerning minors.