The Veilguard main theme is a MASTERPIECE! | Feral Goose

[@michellek1977]

I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed a few minutes of "What Is Wrong With People" Important Goose 😂I was applauding in the background. GET 'EM, QUEEN. 😍🥰😘 I love this theme so much, both for the beautiful listen and also the complexity of the composition. I first heard it over my phone speaker, BLEH, but when I was able to sit down and listen with my good headset at my PC I was increasingly floored by the layers going on. There is this wonderful undercurrent of tension, suspense and, sometimes, almost menace to the piece, accomplished beautifully with strings, synth and piano at various points, while atop it rides this swell of epic brass that fells soaring and majestic. But my ear kept noting the deliberate dissonance of that undercurrent. Dissonance that adds to a piece instead of destroying its harmonics is soooooooo difficult to create, so when it is accomplished at this level, it leaves me breathless. The bridge that starts around, I believe, the 3:20 mark is truly lovely but I was so excited to feel those dissonant strings creep back in, the truly hectic piano segment that slips in. There is a nod to classic horror themes in the undercurrent of this composition that is truly a wonder to experience, because of how it manipulates the mood of the theme, taking it from a solid fantasy melody and into something so much more emotionally (and, again, compositionally) complex and robust. I am left feeling many emotions, not just one sweeping emotion, outside of, perhaps, the overall excitement for the piece, for more to come and just diving into DAV altogether. Thanks so much for another wonderful video!

[@ImpGoose]

😂 I mean have they lost their minds? You know what, after your comment I start thinking that: a) they didn't listen for more than 2 minutes b) they have bad headphones c) they used their smartphones to experience the soundtrack and think that it reflects the quality 😭😭😭😭

[@michellek1977]

@@ImpGoose it would absolutely explain the disparity between how they perceive it and how we do. I think a lot of people don’t realize the difference good sound quality makes, especially with instrumental works!!! But, sadly, some of them are also just haters and they can keep being haters… far away from me. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[@anderporascu5026]

​@@michellek1977To them I say they can go shiv themselves, if we enjoy it, we enjoy to it and don't require popular approval to enjoy it.

[@WynneL]

My favorite part is definitely the part you're talking about, too--like 3:00-4:55 of the theme is just so good. But there's actually another version, I think it's called the "Thedas Calls Main Theme Variant," which I think is more what people were expecting to hear. I'm not a genius at explaining things like Goose, but for some reason it seems more cohesive than the other version, which has some parts I might need in-game context to understand. Some game music, you understand when you see the game. I do think a Trevor Morris collaboration would've been absolutely incredible, but that might've been overwhelmingly expensive; I don't know.

[@thirdcoastfirebird]

Hans Zimmer is not a mediocre. He is iconic!

[@ImpGoose]

Yes! This!!! LEGENDARY!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@WynneL]

The consensus seems more that this is mediocre work *for Hans,* which is still better music than most people will ever make in their life time. When you hear Hans Zimmer, you think "best music I have ever heard," so it can still be a disappointment to people who know his work while nevertheless being excellent in many ways.

[@thirdcoastfirebird]

@@WynneL Fair point.

[@pandabers]

Another thing is people saying this aren't just the haters. In the Dragon Age subreddit where any criticism of the game is downvoted, it's not an unpopular opinion that the Veilguard soundtrack is meh. That's just how good Trevor Morris's Inquisition theme is.

[@thirdcoastfirebird]

@@pandabers Fair point, but I've loved Zimmer for decades.

[@Russman67]

At this point some people just want to hate it. So everything about it needs to be nitpicked. If it wasn't Hans Zimmer, the same people would complain about not having a competent composer making the background music. At this point I'm just ignoring content creators that are just spewing hate. Don't have time for it.

[@ImpGoose]

Life is too short! ❤️ Can't wait for the rest of the soundtrack album!!!

[@Russman67]

@@ImpGoose Do us all a favor and PLEASE keep making content. You are objective. You state things with reason.

[@sonnenblumefrau2048]

I keep hiding those videos when I come across them. Thankfully people like Goose and Kala are pretty positive about this game.

[@Tassarinan96]

That or they just want likes or clicks for their controversial take. It Hans MF Zimmer. I bet none of these people create music either lol

[@anderporascu5026]

Amen, I'll love what I love. If they give all their energy to hate then they'll be a slave to what it is they hate and have nothing in life they enjoy.

[@BlazingTiger5000]

It took me time For Main Theme of Inquisition to Get me internally and repeat in loop, DAV is also the same repeat of inner me absorbing this music. Trevor Morris did amazing job with inquisition similarly Inon Zur with DAO. This is the main theme i am waiting for the whole soundtrack. Once i absorbed then i can like place which of these soundtracks in ranks, Hanz Zimmer is an absolute Legend no doubts, i am waiting for other golden cookies. Main theme is so good it's not mediocre. I repeat dragon age soundtracks whenever i can, there has never been a bad soundtrack from this franchise. Music in Dragon age is always ultimate.

[@MarikaStarflower]

At this point Leonardo da Vinci could rise from the grave and make an artbook for this game and people would say "It is mid! Sure, it is da Vinci, but it is not to his usual standarts! And he is overrated anyway!" Just ignore them and enjoy the game. I know I will. ps I liked the Zimmer theme, but I think I'll like it even more once it is actually connected to certain events in the game. It is usually the case.

[@ImpGoose]

OMG 😱 You are right. They would call DaVinci a useless mid. No respect at all

[@MarikaStarflower]

@@ImpGoose Mindless hate and ragebait. i can't say I like everything in The Veilguard I've seen, but I still eagerly await the game nonetheless and pre-ordered it the moment I had the chance. I just love Thedas universe and Bioware story telling too much not to. Plus I want to finally see the end of the Dread Wolf story.)

[@anderporascu5026]

​​​@@ImpGooseThey do the same with Starfield and it is by no means bad, same with this game. The entitled will use popular appeal to get the masses to conduct hate and review bombing campaigns as well as boycotts. Yes I think it's shitty what EA has done to BioWare these years but the devs did everything to make this game happen, I preordered and will play it for them, not the brats who want clicks and me to agree with them and sure as hell not EA and their cronies.

[@watchraventhehostage5938]

Okay, as a former songwriter/ composer who's made 2 records (They're gonna go aluminum any day now...trust me.) who's been listening to Hans Zimmer since his days with Krakatoa & The Buggles I can tell you that much of his work shows a shift in priorities between Melody & Mood. In Veilguard, the melody is certainly recognizable & easy to follow, but it isn't particularly strong or "catchy" in the way you might expect of a pop or theme song. This is 100% intentional. His mastery shows in how, on the final note of each phrase, he uses the orchestra to add differing levels of dissonance to shift the mood from light to dark & back again. I personally find it very effective, & perfectly suited to the dark, moody nature of the Dragon Age franchise. But some folks are very melody centric. Without a strong hook there's nothing for them to latch on to. Other folks find a strong, catchy melody jarring & intrusive, causing them to spend the day trying to get it out of their head. I truly believe that of all the art forms, music is the most subjective. We like what we like, & some tastes are broader than others. I do disagree on one point tho'. If we were all the same, the world would not be paradise. It would be boring. ; )

[@ImpGoose]

You are SO COOL!!! 😍

[@LuminEskaGaming]

I think it's especially tough in this case because this isn't a movie where the subtle shifts in mood are being presented alongside something on screen. The Veilguard's theme actually reminds me very much of Danny Elfman's work that plays in the opening credits of Tim Burton films, which is pretty cool. But this is a game within a beloved series that traditionally has very memorable melodies. It's absolutely nothing against Hans Zimmer - he is a brilliant composer. I love a lot of his work, but am not impressed with this particular piece. This theme just doesn't do it for a lot of people, and those people have valid reasons to feel that way (as long as it's constructive criticism, and they're not hating it for the sake of hating it).

[@watchraventhehostage5938]

@@LuminEskaGaming I've been listening to Danny since his days with Oingo Boingo & I can tell you without reservation he is definitely melody centric. And brilliantly so. Tbh, I'd be hard pressed to recall any specifially impactful melody from any of the Dragon Age games. If you can, you have a more discerning ear than I do. Still, they all meshed exceedinly well with the game worlds they gave voice to. My experience with the Veilguard soundtrack is a work in progress that has yet to begin. For me, comparing Elfman to Zimmer is akin to comparing Mozart to Mugsorgski. Both of them pushed the envelope. But they did so from opposite corners. Or maybe I'm just too easy to please. I'll go with that, no problem.

[@gabrielbotelho4295]

I've seen criticism about the few choices that will matter, about the aesthetics of the menus and qunari, some aspects of gameplay, and I think it's worth people not being satisfied with things like that, but that doesn't mean we should spread hate and say that the game it's going to be bad, it doesn't make sense. We are seeing incredible work done by several professionals who are passionate about the game, it is going to be great. I'm surprise that people are criticizing even a masterpiece done by a great composer.

[@danteh4947]

People are literally miserable. Games are meant to be fun. If people don’t find the game in their taste just don’t play or support it.

[@jacksonmain1743]

Thank you! I guarantee most of the people complaining have never even played a dragon age game lol 😂

[@pdaddy2259]

People are miserable for not having the same subjective opinion as you? Narcissism at it’s finest

[@anderporascu5026]

That goes for any game or medium, you can't please everybody which is also a quote by Jiminy Cricket.

[@Eualia]

I do not get why people are wastingbwhat really matters which is TIME to complain and hate on a simple game. It's not even something that important its literally just a game but the way people are hating and complaining it feels like first world problems.

[@kojk2545]

The old "we cared enough to take something that people like, and fundamentally change it- but how dare you care enough to complain about it" weak 80iq argument that likely appeals to whatever trained seals are left in the dragon age fanbase.

[@lastmerlin]

I completely understand and share your feelings. Please do not be upset. Their aversion to the new and their habit of hating obscures their access to beauty. They have already been punished.

[@vikenemma2953]

It took me a few listens to love this song! I love when these types of themes slowly build up. I love classical and instrumental music and listen to it quite often. What I love about this theme in particular is how it makes you feel a sense of dread, and mood during the entire piece.

[@ImpGoose]

Right? This music shows a story through sounds 🔥

[@YurateYurate]

Yeah, I didn't love it at first but 5-6 times later oh, it feels completely different) I know I will be listen to it even after the game. Leitmotif is so good gosh (Goose, I can't live without your content, so I am here again😅❤. I hope haters don't bother you much, it can be overwhelming sometimes)

[@ImpGoose]

@@YurateYurate Aw 🥰 Glad to see you and welcome back, my dear! Let's get feral together hahaha

[@YurateYurate]

​@@ImpGooseyour thoughts are exactly my thoughts! People just can't let yourself to have fun, they need to constantly compain about everything...sometimes I see that someone hates even Morris's music(in comparison with Zur), and I want to ask - what is wrong with you all guys? 😂 Zur, Morris and Zimmer(and Balfe I think I don't know him much) are all great, each has his own style, and I love them all so much! Good composers are actually very rare, we need to cherish them more😊 but good music taste is far more rare today as I see...

[@swbrandt]

I like it, but I don't love it. But that may change once I hear it in context. Game OSTs are made to complement visuals and gameplay, after all. If it fits really well with what is happening on screen, that will change its impact for me. The OSTs that really stick with me are always the ones from games I felt strongly about. When I listen to OSTs from games I haven't played or that I didn't care for, I get less out of them even if the music is fine on its own. But I agree with you that people are just hating as a lifestyle these days. It's honestly sad.

[@ImpGoose]

I see what you mean, and agree with everything. Let's love as a lifestyle haha

[@YurateYurate]

I think Zimmer, like any other composer, has strong works and weak ones, for example, I don't really like some of his ambient, because it works only directly in it's scene and environment, and I like to listen to OST separately from movies and games. But his title and main themes are just something incredible! They are telling stories! ("he's a pirate" is forever in my heart)

[@ImpGoose]

Amazing piece 🫂💃🏼💃🏼💃🏼

[@Misfitcore]

To be honest I didn't know who Hans Zimmer is until all this DA thing that is all over youtube but I might have listened to pieces by him unknowingly, that being said I did listened the main theme and I thought it was good and serves it purpose of giving the feeling that is a fantasy game, not to say "generic" but there are parts in it that makes me feel that I'm listening to the background music of various zones in WoW while questing or even reminds me of those spiderman movies from the 00's; for me in particular is not a theme that I'll listen on repeat like the main themes of Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 or some from WoW's login screen (the burning crusade one is the GOAT) for giving an example but as I said, it makes you feel that you are in a fantasy setting and that is enough for me at least

[@jizamkizam9611]

Not gonna lie, the theme didn't really grab me. But I'm sure there will be great tracks throughout the game. The other DA games had plenty of weaker tracks mixed in with some amazing ones.

[@nikkinyx5745]

I have a soft spot for the moody music in the character creator

[@benswallow4985]

Hans Zimmer is in my top 5 favourite composers. Seeing that he is composing a franchise that I am extremely excited to play is the best news I’ve had. From Interstellar to DAV give me the soundtrack now!! At this point as you said, social media breeds people who love to hate. Look at the loud minority in the Star Wars community. For me if they don’t have an actual criticism I just leave the convo - everyone has an opinion and when it comes to social media that opinion is louder, it’s not going to change my choices, not going to change my excitement for DAV and I am going to play this on repeat

[@aspavazoura5523]

Hans Zimmer should listen to the Solas Theme from Inquisition and create something better..THAT was a masterpiece....

[@gorogs]

I made that comment that you referenced from the reddit thread (about the main theme being mediocre and generic), so I thought I would respond to some things in an effort to turn it into a productive conversation. This got really long so no hard feelings if you don't read it: 1) 100% agree that this game has received a lot of pointless negativity and there's a lot of people searching for a reason not to enjoy it. I never understood the hate for the artstyle, the tone, the combat etc, the game is looking pretty fun to me (and let's not even mention the ridiculous culture war complaints of "wokeness"). I have my gripes with it (3 choices) but the vitriol against the devs and game is completely out of proportion. 2) I don't dislike the track, it is pretty good and if you were blown away by it or something, I respect you. Like I mentioned in the reddit discussion, I think it does get the feeling across that something sinister is happening in Thedas. Still, it didn't speak to me the way Inquisition's or Origins' themes did, and there's reasons for that which are valid in my eyes (it's repetitive, lacks a significant buildup, has a leitmotif that didn't stand out to me and is very similar to a lot of others such as the Rings of Power theme or HDM or Batman etc, therefore I found it generic). Hans Zimmer is undoubtedly a composer that has had massive influence in the way music is made for film, and of course he's written some incredible scores. His legacy CANNOT be questioned. I never said he is a bad composer, nor do I think it would be my place to. I mentioned my favorite scores of his in my comment, and I also mentioned Trevor Morris because to me that comment was more about appreciating Morris and how much I loved his score for DAI than about hating on Zimmer (the article left that out though, as I assume it wouldn't be as clickbaity). However, I do not believe that just cause someone is really influential, that all of their work is automatically excellent, or that I am required to love everything they make. Hans Zimmer specifically has been known to not be above just whipping something out for the paycheck, if he isn't invested in the story he is composing for. Compare his legendary scores for Interstellar or Dune to his score for, say, No time to die, or a lot of his video game projects like Call of Duty or FIFA19. Music is, of course, a matter of preference, but to me the latter are clearly less inspired and pretty mediocre (emphasis on "to me", I don't demand anyone should be underwhelmed just cause I am). Also, keep in mind he has a production company that handles these things, so it's not impossible that he had someone else compose most of it and just plastered his name on top. I find this important because I feel that smaller composers like Morris and Zur poured their hearts into the score they wrote and it showed, and I wonder if Zimmer and his production company cared as much, or if it was worth it to dump the previous composers for him just because of his big name. 3) You might say I shouldn't have talked about it, just accept it's not for me and move on with my day. Well, the comment was left on a thread where someone specifically asked us to share our thoughts. I just wrote a comment and well... moved on with my day. Maybe I should have thought more about it, but I didn't at the time. I also would like to make clear that I didn't say "it's bad and everyone should hate it", nor did most people in that thread. I said "I personally found it generic" which I feel are two very different things, especially since you brought up entitlement. A lot of the comments there have a similarly balanced statement. Since then, I've heard other parts of the soundtrack that I enjoyed a lot more (The stream countdown music that you chose to play in the background of your video, I feel is a much better showcase of the score's leitmotifs than the main theme was). I did not intend to make anyone feel bad about liking it, though perhaps I should have considered that voicing any negativity, no matter how it was intended, would just add to the already overbloated cloud of unreasonable hate and be very draining to read. I still stand by my words, it is my honest opinion and I feel that I voiced it in a way that was not about hating it for hate's sake. I don't feel that I am unreasonable or hateful for not connecting with this theme or talking about it. I also think the idea that just because someone is not enthusiastic about one element of Veilguard, that means they hate everything about it, cannot enjoy anything, and are complaining out of entitlement, could be compared to what you said about haters on your Varric video. It's a conversation you had in your own head that contains a lot of assumptions. All that said, I cannot really blame you or anyone for getting upset, since the climate around this game has been rancid for so long. I also realize I probably shouldn't have rushed to judge when I haven't heard the soundtrack in-game (sound, visuals and gameplay are supposed to be experienced as one). I am more hopeful of Lorne Balfe's contributions, as I am personally more of a fan of his. And of course, I am also looking forward to playing Veilguard in October 31st like everyone else! I fully empathize with your frustration, as someone who really just wants to enjoy the game and is often baffled by how much people hate it without having even played it yet, and want others to hate it too. I hope you can find it in you to consider my POV, and of course respond honestly without reservations, if you still believe I said something I shouldn't have.

[@ImpGoose]

I didn't mention specific names because this video wasn't a witch hunt. There are many who took the idea of such an adjective as "mid" and it all started from similar messages. It wasn't only yours, right? So, the opinion is not unique. As I said, the article is just a base and an example, there are many more cases online, including KZbin. There are game channels who give the same "mid" rating. They twisted it into another wave of negativity towards the game, composers and their creations. If you like the game and you don't hate it, then the rant didn't address you. However some of your words started a chain reaction of yet another hate trip all over the comments. Sometimes one drop can cause many circles and waves on the water surface. At this point there's nothing we can change but setting boundaries. I hope this video will send a clear message to all people who spread negativity on my channel.

[@gorogs]

@@ImpGoose That's a fair point. I guess I should watch what I say on the internet more closely either way. Thank you for responding (and also reading my wall of text lol). I'm excited for your next lore and analysis videos!

[@GingerRanger1329]

I remember when Inquisition came out and people were saying the exact same things about Trevor Morris. People were upset that Bioware had abandoned Inon Zur, the music didn't match the feel of the DA World, blah blah blah. But really, it's a fantasy world, of course you're going to have fantasy sounding music. For Inquisition the main theme was catchy, sure.... but I eventually turned music off because lord if I had to hear that song one more time... constantly button mashing to get through the main menu is not a glowing review of a song. Zimmer's music tells a story alongside the narrative, bolstering it, rather than taking it over. For Heaven's sake, the man did Prince of Egypt! Arguably some of the best music in a movie EVER. I wasn't going to pre-order since Bioware lost my trust with their last two games (mostly Anthem) but seeing Zimmer's name I got excited and I may pre-order. These people needs to stop whining over something that hasn't even fully released yet.

[@SpiffySpam]

Hans Zimmer is an amazing composer. Actually just saw him in concert recently and lemme tell you, it was a treat for the eyes and a spectacle for the ears to see this man perform his craft. I was already optimistically excited to play this game, despite all the bizarre negativity surrounding this game, but now that I know Hans Zimmer composed the ost for this game, I'm even more excited to experience this game. To me personally, listening to it kinda takes me back to playing origins for the first time where its a dark fantasy, but you can kind of feel a sense of hope, wonder, and a bit of mysticism that awaits you as the player, but again thats just me.

[@RobMcDermott]

It's a great theme, and people who say otherwise are just making themselves look silly at this point, but can we not focus so much on Hans Zimmer? it's by Hans Zimmer and Lorne Balfe. Balfe is a very accomplished movie, TV and game composer in his own right, who's worked on blockbusters, AAA games and high-budget TV shows. I especially love his work on His Dark Materials, for example.

[@ImpGoose]

His Dark Materials is epic. Love it with all my heart! Though, Hans mentored him at one point as I understood. They are both wonderful and their collaboration turned out to be a masterpiece 🔥

[@CeceJ6508]

People just want a reason to hate this game, and they just have to announce it publicly to feel accomplished in their life. It’s really sad honestly.

[@ImpGoose]

Their true motivation is a mystery until they say it themselves, though it is a sad pattern indeed 😭

[@williamgiusti7146]

@@ImpGoose I'd say it's greed, there are plenty of small channels who suddenly got tens of thousands of views just for bashing hard this game and they know nothing about Dragon Age at all. When hate meets greed everything goes bittersweet and people will tell the worst crap possible because they know it will get them money and a shot at fame.

[@christopherwernstrum5037]

It's ok. All geese are feral sometimes. I very much agree with you...and subscribed.

[@_MD_.]

Oh, good to mentioning it, i not listened the main theme song yet.

[@danielturunen7237]

Hans Zimmer is a legend. He makes fantastic music.

[@Ponder557]

Hans Zimmer is wonderful, and I am so grateful that he and his protege are willing to make music for a video game, as Hollywood and video games I feel are still somewhat separated as recognized art.From the trailers and Vows and Vengeance I would love to own the soundtrack.

[@ImpGoose]

Totally agree with you. The album will be extraordinary because the music is done by amazing creators. Can't wait to listen to the whole thing!

[@InconceivableOracle]

Thank you for saying something about this!!! (I listened to the theme on repeat for a good portion of my work day. Not sure what music the hateful folks listen to, but I imagine it is composed for the tiniest violins.) If everything was made for everyone, the world would be horribly boring. Not sure why hating is the "cool" thing to do... You post some of my favorite Dragon Age content, keep it coming!

[@PhoenixElf777]

I was so excited when I saw that Hans Zimmer worked on this soundtrack. The main theme is beautiful.

[@ImpGoose]

This is so cool!!! 🔥🔥🔥🫂 Imagine the rest of the soundtrack album!

[@PhoenixElf777]

@@ImpGoose I know! I got GOOSEbumps while listening to just this track!

[@dawnhalstead780]

I liked the music very much. It had a sense of epicness to it; a sense of inevitability and an underlying tone of intense sorrow.

[@AdamArclight031]

My response to all the hate let Hans and Lorne cook.

[@noreehix5714]

Hans Zimmer, Ramin Djawdi and Nobou Umetsu are my top favorite composers. This soundtrack took me on an emotional journey like its a sense of wonder in the beginning and slowly the anxiety of it ramps up. Love it!

[@ImpGoose]

Amazing music 🔥🔥🔥

[@banjomir519]

Yeah, I find it hilarious how people are now all of a sudden hating on Hans Zimmer, calling his scores generic and mediocre (LOL). The hate surrounding this game is just insane. And for what??? It's a really strange thing happening. Hans Zimmer is the absolute GOD of score composition and Veilguard's main theme is an absolute masterpiece!

[@sam2761]

I like Hans Zimmer, I am excited for the game and the rest of the soundtrack, but I did not like this song. It was a consistent go-go-go with no pinnacle, chilling moment or punchline for me. It did match Veilguard for its pressure and sense of urgency--but I didn't particularly find any moment of the song really impacting me. DAO, DA2 and especially DAI's main themes all gave me chills at some point, this one just did not. Its not a crap composition, they know what they are doing, but it did not hit with me. It is ok for people to have different tastes. *Edited for typos.

[@6thhistory]

You just said yourself it fits with Veilguard's urgency. I feel like people are underestimating how desperate the state of the world in Veilguard is going to be.

[@sam2761]

@6thhistory Yes, but I think it could have still represented the urgency, while also implementing some point in the song that had a punch or kick to it, something to really chill your spine. They are facing off against the Evanuris afterall, and there is an underlying dark tone with Solas' duality and potential for betrayal. The piece could have implemented a point with a dark, cutting bass sound to add the darkness and dread in some more. It was all very light and rushed imo. Nothing cut or gutted me, and that is what I would have liked in this composition. It is beautiful, but it didn't capture the dread as well.

[@6thhistory]

@@sam2761 Did you listen past 4 minutes? It's dread all the way down. This is the main theme, as in the menu theme. Hans Zimmer and Lorne Balfe are used to things like Assassins Creed etc. I think the rest of the soundtrack will surprise you.

[@sam2761]

@6thhistory I did, I listened to the song in its entirety over 5x at this point. The beginning and around that 4 minute mark were the closest it got to what I am talking about, but it still did not hit home for me. It was buried in the rush. It did not cut for me. Anyway, you don't have to convince me to like it, it is ok if I don't feel moved by the same sounds as you.

[@nimrodell3752]

Same here. It's a long song so on my first listen I was waiting for a moment that would grab me, but it just didn't come and I ended up with a "I guess that was fine" kind of feeling. And I just didn't feel like listening to it again since. I hope I'll like other tracks more.

[@NathTMcC]

I’m literally so sick of the negativity and got sick of it quite early on. I was always of the “give it a chance” mind. I love Dragon Age. I play for the story and the lore. I’m excited to get back to living in Thedas after years of just reading/watching stories set in it. I’ve found your videos a solace since we same to be of the same mind. - if you don’t like it or don’t want to give it a chance just go play something else 😂😂 I’ve unplugged from the wider fandom and have avoided a lot of spoiler stuff because I want to just enjoy the game. I watched a few of the reviews after KZbinrs were aloud to play for 6 hours and I was like “ok. I’m happy with this. Now I wait.”

[@maiafay]

I watched some gameplay and there’s a part where that main theme plays and I instantly recognized it. I think it will grow on people the more they play the game and hear it.

[@tj3603]

He he... "Go *isolate* yourself!" Cmon, you meant to use completely different adjective here, aren't you? 😂 Also, agree with the message, this tune is very masterfully done, it's eerie and emotional, and it probably will capture general vibe of the game as being creepy and emotional, looking forward to hearing more while exploring Theadas once again. Those weirdos who hate everything about this game for the sake of hate should take chill pill and reconcider their life choices 🤷 I get being sceptical, but rooting for something to fail is bonkers.

[@ImpGoose]

Haha, you see right through me 😂

[@romson87]

Hans Zimmer is a fantastic composer and I've been to his concerts a few times already. That doesn't change the fact that I find the main theme for The Veilguard mediocre and by the looks of it a lot of ppl do. You don't need to be a composer too to be able to say you don't like a particular piece of music or that you find it bad.

[@indiana_holmes]

I enjoy the theme, but I do wish it were a bit more epic, like Inquisition, but I'm sure there will be some other epic tracks. It definitely gives me chills and 'sounds like Dragon Age' to me. When it hits its highs, it definitely has a regal, almost foreboding tone to it, that I really like, but it's just not nearly as catching, adventurous, and memorable as Inquisition's title track.

[@Kira.wolf98]

Especially Trespasser DLC, The soundtrack was amazing there, but I believe there will be great tracks in DAV too

[@bernova]

Some people are just set on hating something, and there's nothing we can do. Once they decide, nothing can change their mind. If you like something they don't, they think you're lying, which is a CRAZY level of egocentrism. It's so tiresome. I really like the theme❤ and I love that you lost a bit of your patience in this video, haha

[@LadyRhi_]

Feral Goose got loose! Phew, that was a lot to let out and I feel you. I keep on considering just logging off the internet until Oct 31st because it's become such a battleground causing unnecessary hate & discontent. Genuine concerns or critiques from people who know the series and/or actually care about it are all fair. The endless stream of videos, articles, and copy-paste comments filled with venom and doom made by people who either don't like DA in the first place or have never even interacted with it are so draining. I just want to appreciate a story I love and the continuation of it that I think will be something special. That's why I haven't checked out yet. If the people who have something positive to say disappear, then all that will be left is the negativity. Can't let the Despair or Spite demons win! ;-) I hope letting some of the frustration out helped and that you can look to your stream and upcoming videos with more joy. I loved the theme that Zimmer shared with us (an Important Goose analysis to come, perhaps?) and it just amped my excitement for the story we're going to be able to dive into in just under a month!

[@SkysXFile]

Dude, I was stoked when I heard hans Zimmer was involved in my favorite game series. And he didn't disappoint. :)

[@christopherbennem9566]

I LOVE this 'rant' -- but let's cut to the chase: people who have decided to hate this game ahead of time are _mostly_ right-wing-oriented gamer boyz who can't stand queer representation and have decided that DA has become "Woke" despite the fact that BioWare has always led the way (relative to when they released) on showing these relationships in their games. As far as the quality of the score--it is awesome. And Zimmer is absolutely a master of the form. I have been writing a book for years and his scores--especially for Inception--has been the background for my writing the entire time. Ramin Djawadi and Phillip Glass are the only other two score composers who suck me in like this. (John Williams scores are easily as great if not better, but they are so inseparable from those films that I can't listen to them without having the films summoned into presence). So YES: I'm so glad you have dismissed these haters. Make no mistake, these are the same people who rallied against Acolyte and any number of other media because they see it threatening their backward hetero-male-dominated world view. There may be the occasional person who is kvetching in 'good faith' but the majority that I've seen use smoke screen objections and fault-finding to try to mask the fact that they are trying to sabotage any and all media that adopts a more inclusive perspective. I'm so thrilled that Zimmer has done the theme, and can't wait to hear more.

[@LouRou23]

Hans Zimmer is iconic. I love the soundtracks he did for both Dune movies way too much. I'm biased towards Morris' work, as he has been my favourite composer for years (Pillars of the Earth, Vikings, the Tudors, to name a few), but my preference for him doesn't make the decision to go with Zimmer a bad one in my eyes. Music is very subjective - some will love it, some will hate it - but all of it has value as art.

[@RandomWandrer]

It's simple. These idiots hating on everything are too young to know who Hans Zimmer is. They just don't know. How do I know they are young? Because real adults are busy with real life and real responsibilities, and don't have time to follow things they hate all-over the Internet. Real adults make time only for stuff that sparks joy, and steer clear of the rest, as much as possible. It's sad that there seems to be a whole generation of people with nothing to do but be miserable online. Touch grass. Make friends. Start a club. Anything but this. You can be happy, just disengage from the screen. Please. I'm rooting for you.

[@hironounmei]

I am afraid you missed the point, that a lot of dragon age fans lived the origins times. The dark fantasy series is not for children. Its about love, hate, betrail, relationship, sex, violence, social injustice and slavery and all. If you belive under aged should play dragon age, please do not have children.

[@kristoffsayswhat]

I'm sorry but he's probably the biggest composer of our life time! With Oscars and stuff! How can someone like that be considered mediocre?!

[@pandabers]

Music is VEERRYYYY subjective, probably easily one of media that's highly based on taste alone. It's funny that this is the negative opinion that set you off :D That said, I don't agree with what you said that criticism is only criticism if you're at the level of Hans Zimmer. Like what girl :D You mean we can't criticize anything unless we know how to make those things ourselves?

[@debbierobbins360]

These whiners are the same exact people who continually play the victim. They choose to believe that they are abused, their sorry, depressing lives are somebody elses fault and the only time they are, I won't say happy because they are never happy, SATISFIED is when they are 100% pandered to. When asked, they can never articulate what they want, just what they don't want. And, of course, each of them want something specific to themselves and cannot accept anything that isn't in lock step with whatever fantasy they have playing on a loop in their minds. People, this game is not YOUR creation. It is the creation of actually talented and creative people. Why not open your minds and appreciate what other people have created for you to enjoy.

[@xjj7394]

I hadn't listened to it until I saw your video. I do not have a huge understanding or knowledge about classical music, but I quite liked it. For whatever it's worth (of my opinion), it has a epic feeling to it. Regarding the hate, well, this is a game that has a lot of hate surrounding it, so whenever something comes out that is related to this game, there will be always be plenty of hate comments following as well. This does not mean that there are not valid genuine criticisms of the game, it's just that a lot of the hate of the game isn't coming from genuine criticism but from people with agendas. And this is everywhere these days (toxic negativity and toxic positivity), both in gaming and outside of gaming. So it's a fine balancing act trying to understand what is "real" conversations and what it's not. Unfortunately, that's the state of our world these days.

[@MichaelWagner-ie9px]

I love the Dune pieces they’re fantastic! Idk how people can be hating on Hans

[@ImpGoose]

Lorne Balfe and Hans Zimmer duo is incredible. I don't understand. How? HOW?! HOW DARE THEY? 🤣🤣🤣 Dune is great. Have you listened to His Dark Materials by Balfe? Please, try if you haven't!

[@MichaelWagner-ie9px]

@@ImpGoose I haven’t but I definitely will!

[@6thhistory]

Hans Zimmer does so much research, people are complaining about it not being like other Dragon Age music... which means it is not meant to be. I even saw someone say that all Dragon Age games had a similar sound... Inquisition was so totally different to Origins and 2 and this feels like a true epic sequel to that.

[@ImpGoose]

Yeah, if the duo of epic composers think that these are the emotions we need to have whilst entering DAV, I trust them with my soul.

[@hironounmei]

The base dragons fly theme was recomposed for da2 and dai main theme. It is recognizable but not copied.

[@Anlace]

I'm looking forward to Veilguard, so I'm aware of all the negative criticisms and nitpicks. When I saw that Hans Zimmer was composing for the game, I said to myself, "I bet these negative people will start to say that the soundtrack isn't even going to be good and hate on Hans Zimmer, too." I called it.

[@davidradach9311]

There are several reasons to have valid concerns about Veilguard, most recently only 3 choices from DA:I carrying over. The soundtrack isn’t one of them. Hans Zimmer is an institution at this point. If anyone hasn’t heard ‘Time’ from the movie Divergent, I strongly recommend it! Not liking the soundtrack for valid points is fine, I don’t think everyone would. That’s like me saying everyone must like Behemoth. Or Eluveitie. Or Draconian. My big question? How much of this is valid criticism, and how much is ‘It’s part of Veilguard, so I gotta destroy it!’? (Please keep the Feral Goose nickname, it really suits you! 🤘)

[@ImpGoose]

Haha, alright. We should have Feral rants from time to time then!

[@Hurricane3027]

I suppose you meant 'Inception', instead of Divergent refering to 'Time'. Hans Zimmer didn't compose for Divergent movie :)

[@davidradach9311]

@@Hurricane3027 Bullseye. I love that piece!

[@Hurricane3027]

@@davidradach9311 'Time' is a masterpiece alongside with the whole movie :)

[@davidradach9311]

@@Hurricane3027 Agreed!

[@heatherbeck7008]

Hans is a legend! Love all of his work, and cannot wait to hear the theme in context when the game comes out!

[@ThistleLP]

I personally loved the main theme first listen. It actually did bring me some vibes of Origins with the darker tone, and the faster parts made my heart race! Personally i think the people going around hating and just being rude are people who feel alone in their own misery and want to bring people into it with them. people who only know how to bond by collectively hating on things and they deserve to be pitied.

[@ImpGoose]

That sounds lovely! I'm very happy that you loved it 💜🫂 You'll be surprised that even KZbinrs with thousands of subs said that the music is mid. Why are they miserable? They already have their channels to avoid loneliness? Oh dear... it's just so unbelievable.

[@Viralvicky0666]

I have a lot of issues and am pretty upset about the ongoing changes every game culminated to veilguard, but people being angry at hans??? He is the freaking goat, and the work he has done is legendary.

[@RiverMeTimbers353]

There are so many things that have put me off of this game since the marketing started (more things than have put me on to it that’s for sure).The music has not been one of them. I find myself revisiting the last 5 minutes or so of the gameplay reveal trailer to listen to the overtures that play. Would I have preferred Trevor Morris over Hans Zimmer/Lorne Balfe? Yeah, kinda. Is the music one of the only things that I’m unabashedly looking forward to in the game? Absolutely.

[@karieoki]

yes, thats their life. when i heard the hate, I totally blocked those door knobs!

[@patrykkatulski9238]

I really loved the score in Gladiator 💜💜💜 can’t wait for the rest soundtrack for The Veilguard 😁😁😁

[@geoffreycannon2197]

To my untrained ear, the tones and melodies of this single song very much echo the theme from dragon age origins, but with a new composer and more orchestral power in it. For something set in a land never seen any game, ten years after anything that has happened… it’s already an incredible achievement. I only realized the similarities after listening to them both one after the other. There are moments in the theme that climb to a crescendo, and every time-dozens of times now-it chokes me up, brings tears to the eyes of a 45 year old man. Then I remember it has been 10 years since the last time we touched this world with our own hands… I have hope for this game, for the world of Thedas… and it’s in large part because the work that Hans Zimmer and Lorne Balfe put into this one track (though the full cd is available on iTunes for preorder…)

[@safffzz3636]

I like the main theme. I hope they release more music ahead of the games lauch.. Nothing from big spoilery moments just combat themes. I'd like to hear. Definitely looking forward to hearing more. But i will also say i like the theme playing in the background of this video more. But that doesnt mean the other piece is bad by any means.

[@tayakalinichenko6348]

I buy veilguard , and yes im not like this main theme. My opinion. No hate . Hope in game music and ambient will be better

[@XRubyDuby]

I bet if this Soundtrack wouldn‘t be from Veilguard, these people wouldn‘t whine about it that much. At this point I feel like these people are just looking for ANYTHING to hate on just ‚to be right‘ about that Veilguard is ‚bad‘ and ‚will fail‘. Sad, that hate corrodes their brain and heart that much…

[@pajmic666]

For people who have an attention span on a toddler, this song might be perceived by them as boring, but its quite the opposite. The entire composition is dynamic and thus it does not feel like a 6 min song at all. There are intensity changes and tone changes throughout. It From 4 min it goes so hard, i head bang my head :D And on top of that the lead melody is quite catchy and memorable. Brilliant theme. The question is, will this epic, dark song reflect the game itself? We shall see. I great video by the way, its not like this game does not deserve its criticism, but some people are completely brain dead, mindless bots of influences who hate on this game as well because its cool, hating literally on everything.

[@radamessoto7571]

To be completely honest I pre-ordered the game because I'm a biggest humongous fan of Dragon Age I like everything that comes from Dragon Age but people these days with the hatred it's like they just want attention and the attention that they get in return it's not what they expect because the people that are doing it for what reason you're not being forced to play the game and if you don't like it don't play it if you don't want to buy it don't buy the game it's not like someone is putting a gun in your head and forcing you people these days with the hatred and criticizing they never even tried it the game yet and it didn't even come out yet but honestly the theme song for the game is a Masterpiece an I heard it 😊🎵 and I can't wait until the game comes out

[@designlover945]

They are blind with hate. It blocked their ears XD

[@morganlefaye6445]

I love Hans Zimmer. I could name so many of his pieces that were just perfectly composed for one specific scene. If I hear the first few notes of "Now we are free" I start bawling.

[@ImpGoose]

Because it's amazing 😭😭😭 What a wonderful piece!!!

[@sweargaming666]

This is a very good video. Bagging on Zimmer's work, at any level, is just nuts.

[@zenpool]

This!

[@Simon-fi6tl]

Calling one of the best movie composers who made some of the most memorable movis soundtracks mediocre just because you don’t like some descisions made by these devs is just plain childish. There are some fair criticism in all the hate online like a lot of the descisions from inquisition not mattering but still. I haven’t played any dragon age before so it doesn’t really matter to me but i do understand why people care a lot about this. What i can’t understand is why people are so mad about all the “woke” stuff. It literally doesn’t matter to your playthrough at all if you don’t want it to. Choice is what bioware games are all about!!!!

[@MartuDaArtist]

How can you hate Hanz Z.? Like really, how? :D

[@ImpGoose]

With what kind of heart?! 🤣 It's getting personal from now on

[@bungouyevsky]

they're braindead, just throwing hate for no real reason, lol.

[@lewiswashington9182]

😅Thank you, goose. I actually had a conversation earlier in the day with a KZbinr about this.👇🏿What do you think? 👇🏿 (I don't think it's bad. It feels like it takes from Inquisition. What i've noticed, though, about hanz zimmer His music lines up with the scenario he's portraying So when I hear this theme backed by Zimmer not so much A theme as it is A moment trying to Match the scene. I believe the music will sync nicely when the visuals back them up.☝🏿)

[@ImpGoose]

I think that your point is valid. A soundtrack is set to be a part of a specific scene. The thing is that I heard too many examples of "it sounds like inquisition/ star wars /hunger games/ etc. Let's choose to believe that it's true. What's next? There are less than 10 notes. All tunes have already been written long before we were born.

[@lewiswashington9182]

@ImpGoose 🙄🥱Don't even pay attention to that silly pov🙉 DA is an EPIC drama With the sound we expect from it. 🤔I'm more interested in the distrust of the composers. 😎Inception, Kung Fu Panda & Gladiator👈🏿 uuhhh what?🙃 He's mid all of a sudden.🤣🤣

[@spellandshield]

Dunno, I thought it was pretty mid, especially for a legend such as Hans Zimmer...he must have been prety expensive but at least this means the music won't bad-bad.

[@ImpGoose]

I see. I'm sorry.

[@spellandshield]

@@ImpGoose No, I am sorry, did not mean to bring your mood down, I am elated that you like it as much as you do!

[@lebarondeminuit3580]

I'm going to be honest: they just listened for 30 seconds then stopped, their focus is dead, literal tiktok brains

[@ivanhunter6492]

Disrespecting Hanz Zimmer Mediocre is crossing the line

[@ImpGoose]

It's literally insane. He is a genius!

[@debbierobbins360]

People that have no talent for anything creative love to criticize people who are wildly creative. They don't understand it, they probably feel inferior deep down, and so they just spew out venom because they don't have what others do.

[@harveysidhu7030]

First loved the Goose Rant, Honk. Second I knew I had heard Hans Zimmer's name before and it wasn't until I googled him that I found that he did the music for The Prince of Egypt one of my favourite animated movies of all time with some of my favourite music coming from that film. And if Veilguard got him to do the soundtrack, it's like wow that was an amazing choice. I feel the gaming space is very chaotic as of late and I think the negative response to the main theme was more of an emotional response to their grievances with the game which sure I understand but I feel like main theme isn't always indicative of the whole soundtrack so it's weird they're calling Hans mid so early even if you've never heard his work before. It's cool that your soft spot/line that should not be crossed is music, I personally don't know what my soft spot is and whether I even have one. We are almost at the finish line.

[@steffler87]

It’s good but it’s not the dawn will come theme/the lost elf good, for me anyway. It may grow on me though the more I hear it in game. Although I wasn’t keen on it being in the bar brawl scene in the prologue, it just seemed a bit off to me like it wasn’t tailored for that scene at all. Actually thinking about it I wonder if it’s because that scene has two versions and it fits the ‘talk down’ version more.

[@recklessgaming2369]

I cant wait for this game!

[@ImpGoose]

Yaaaay 🔥🔥🔥

[@Srefanius]

Probably late to the party, but the style of the one track we have really reminds me of Lord of the rings in some parts. I really like the grandness that comes from it. People also should recognize that there are different themes for different situations in the game. There will also be faster combat tracks I'm sure.

[@sarahryan8611]

“Do you play and cry?” I’m literally cracking up 😂

[@ImpGoose]

🤟🏼🤪

[@AstralJustus]

Tell em goose!

[@ImpGoose]

Honk!!!

[@DualLifeGames]

I try not to get wrapped up in a name like Hans Zimmer, but rather listen to the individual track and decide if I like it or not. And the DA Veilguard theme was exceptionally good. I loved it. My only criticism (if you can even call it that, coming from an absolute layman like myself) is that it's not instantly recognizable. Having just done much research on the music in Chrono Trigger, I'll be able to recognize a Chrono Trigger track anywhere and in any form, where I don't think I'll be able to pick the DA Veilguard theme out of line-up of other exceptional instrumental music pieces. Also... I didn't think I'd ever hear you going on a rant🤣. Well done!

[@ImpGoose]

Thanks 😅 Glad you liked the track. The rest of the album will be great as well! Hopefully, we'll have all kinds of peaceful ambiance and moody soundtracks haha

[@DualLifeGames]

@@ImpGoose I'm sure the whole Veilguard soundtrack will be great. Let's hope.

[@geoffreycannon2197]

I learned about Zimmer and Balfe backwards. Never really paid attention until I heard this song, then went back and looked at their previous work to realize how experienced they each are.

[@MK_ANIK]

The Great Hans Zimmer, for whom I was disappointed at the Oscar Committee for not giving him Oscars every now and then, I didn't like the Main Theme. To my ears, The Theme doesn't possess certain "Hans Zimmer(ish) umph", it is bit "toothless", less aggressive, didn't play with my emotions, and it is not atmospheric, ambient; the way I used to. I do agree that I am not qualified to criticise him but as a big fan of him, I am disappointed.

[@ImpGoose]

The main emotion that I feel from the main theme is hopelessness. I guess that's what you call toothlessness. What if it refers to actual states of events in Thedas? I'd trust the duo of awesome composers here. If they communicate this emotion, we should get ready for good quality emotional damage, emptiness and slow death of the old world...

[@MK_ANIK]

@@ImpGoose , I like RPGs like DAs as I want to see myself dawning the armor of the Warden Commander, Hawke, the Inquisitor and now "Rook" and become the deliverance, the rightgeous protector and I want the "Theme" to empower me. You know, my name literally means a Solider who is a generous protector

[@someonefromthefuture5269]

I actually liked the DA:V theme music I listened to. And this is notable because it might be the only thing aside from the cute pet Gryphon and some of the environments I actually liked so far about DA:V. That said, I don't think there's a point in berating anyone for what they like or dislike, the developers of DA:V made their choices, and people will react to those choices one way or the other. I will say that despite my general sense of disappointment with what I've seen of DA:V, I don't begrudge anyone from enjoying it.

[@feelyourlines]

zimmer is iconic, and it's a great theme. personally not what i want for dragon age, though. i want more of inon zur's origins theme, THAT is dragon age to me.

[@martinzalle]

It seems there are always new reasons coming out for people to hate on the game. A shame really. It's not even out yet. Personally I can't wait and the music sounds epic

[@jonathanstern5537]

Hans Zimmer is, in my opinion, the third best score score composer behind John Williams and Danny Elfman.

[@pdaddy2259]

Hans Zimmer is legendary but the main theme for Veilguard is mediocre. Hopefully the full soundtrack is better

[@xanatricebass2741]

Hans Zimmer really? Like they hate the game for even coming out or thought about because they have nothing else in life to do but hate and be bitter. But to hate on Hans Zimmer I’m sorry this man is a genius if music was food he’d have 5 Michelin stars and we’d let him cuss us out on live tv Gordon Ramsey style. These people are trolls they can’t understand games are supposed to be inclusive for everyone because it lets us do what LIVE OUT OUR FANTASY LIVES IN A FREAKING FANTASY GAME. Games aren’t just for straight people idk why games with women, trans, or lgbtq+ as protagonist is wrong. If a game offers me choices but then takes away my choices especially in romance like horizon kinda does ( im team avad/nil/erend) they pretty much say hey her generic mother was gay so she is too but they forget kids don’t always do what their parent or genetic copy does in this case but I get it it’s for inclusion it may not be my cup of tea but does that make it a bad game HELL NO. But dragon age always offers us a choice in romance we’re never forced we can always choose, every part of the story is a CHOICE, even playing it is a CHOICE, and if ya don’t wanna play then don’t play stop watching content on a game you supposedly hate or don’t wanna play because all these content creators who’re just hating the game and putting out vid after vid I feel their just mad BioWare didn’t ask them to be on their council or to player test their game just green with envy types .

[@yumeyumi3679]

The three choices honestly seem a letdown. However, this will be my first Dragon Age game and I'm excited. I do feel like you OG players got the short end. I'm sorry :(

[@designlover945]

No we didn´t. You don´t understand what the return of the Inquisitor and the continuation of the Solas Romance mean for us as fans. A continued romance never happened in DA before. It´s insane that they do it for us. Thats why i will always be grateful for this. I can´t express it well but the amount of love and respect I have for devs is unmeasurable. If you can play Inquisition and romance or befriend Solas. You´ll get what I mean 💗

[@yumeyumi3679]

@@designlover945 ill do that! I have time. And you're right o dont xd 😆

[@kirillfox5958]

Hans is best boy in the world, but I don't think he managed to get in here like he did in his other ost, "dream is collapsing" "time"etc were the best thing that ever happened in my life, but I'm not so sure about that. And I say this as a fan. To be fair I wasn't sure about morris either, need to listen many times and appreciate the whole music from game when it comes out

[@TheShadowChesireCat]

Hans Zimmer did He's A Pirate from Pirates of the Caribbean movies. That's an iconic theme, and has actually shaped sound expectations for a lot of pirate things (especially video games). Like, personally, I don't think you have to be an equal in skill to have a critical opinion. You do need to be self-aware to know you are not their creative equal, and somewhat aware of why you don't like a thing. Especially the latter. I'm not a fan of lofi music because it gives me migraines. That's okay, and I don't have to listen (in fact, I shouldn't, because having a migraine sucks). If the VG theme is "boring", it's only one track on the soundtrack. We have not heard the full soundtrack. If you judge The Lion King animated soundtrack by the first track (though it also gets good later), you'll miss the good stuff like I Just Can't Wait To King or Be Prepared. People are too opinionated on things like interactive media before they try them. I understand nostalgia and the urge for security of "like this previous thing". But that's not how things work, expecting rehashes of the same thing isn't how things work. It won't get you the nostalgia hit you crave, because you're not experiencing it for the first time and you've likely grown since the last time they put something out. You're a different person now. But I like the theme. I like how the game is mostly shaping up. Not a big fan of chaotic battle screens with lots of clutter, because I find it distracting. But I have only seen bits. I look forward to figuring it out I am excited for the story. Hans Zimmer is a great composer, and I look forward to playing the game and experiencing it for myself.

[@marli6011]

Its making me not want to have any complaints for fear of being lumped in with the haters 😂😂😂 I'm just going to take even more enjoyment from the game to spite them 😂 I feel for you, as this is why i could never run a channel. Those exhausting moments would drive me insane ❤ we will miss you though so i hope you stick around despite the AHs.

[@marli6011]

There's a quote this reminds me of. You will never be criticised by someone doing more than you, only by someone doing less.

[@ImpGoose]

What a wonderful quote 🥹❤️🫂 Making lore videos and news were surprisingly fun, so I'll stick around, though it is a process to learn how to communicate without losing energy haha I'll support you at loving the game. Looks like we are getting a bit of Lucanis's influence already haha. Spite is a strong spirit if one uses it well 🥳

[@krigorian]

I play and cry a lot, but probably not for the reason you meant. At first when I heard Trevor Morris had been replaced, I was worried. Even when He said he was bailed on for Zimmer and Co, I felt a small sense of worry. Mostly because I think Morris work in Inquisition was incredible, so why fix something that is not broken right? But hearing the soundtrack put that to rest instantly. Btw I'm going to see Hans Zimmer live on the 30th, the evening before release of Veilguard, got those tickets long before I heard Zimmer was involved in Dragon Age, now I'm hoping I get a live performance from Veilguard's soundtrack. 😊 It does seem to be a massive range of opinions surrounding this game, from pure vitriol all the way up to blind naïveté, I have gotten some nice discussions in some corners of the internet, but it often gets bulldozed by one of the extremes by the spectrum.

[@mbuhhh3605]

DA series often include famous and proven composer. IIRC DA origins and DA2 prefer inon zur, another very well known video game composer

[@XxW4RB0RNxX]

This is when you can tell the who is in this just to hate the game. Who has actual good reasoning for criticism. There is a outrage bandwagon on KZbin that is surrounding gaming and its not good its absolutely toxic.

[@NoName-ym5zj]

Didn't feel anything while listening to the theme, it didn't really feel like a main theme at all tbh. This remind me of "I am the One" from DAO which was dubbed as the main theme even tho it wasn't even in the game as far as I can remember. I think there are many more aspects to making good art other than being good at what you do. Hans Zimmer is for sure one of the most skilled composers out there. But if his heart is not in it, then it doesn't really matter. Also, I doubt he is creating this in a vacuum, most likely he is at least being given some directions by people at BioWare, bad direction can really ruin a score or voice actors performance. And the same way good movie actors don't translate into good voice actors, it might be that great movie composers don't translate that well into video games. I think you're wrong when you're saying things like "You can criticize Hans Zimmer without being on his level" and things along those lines and I am saying this as an artist myself. Art is made to be enjoyed by other people, it is a form of communication. If you experience it and you don't feel anything or you don't understand it, it's completly valid to criticize it for that. Art doesn't have value if it's beyond being understood or cannot evoke an emotion, that basically means that it cannot be experienced and cannot communicate anything which is the main purpose of art and art without purpose. You don't need to be a Hans Zimmer to understand that and be able to experience art or critique art for the lack of said experience. Hans Zimmer is definitly a great composer that is widely recognized by many people. Doesn't make him beyond criticism or somehow immune to making a bad piece of art.

[@ImpGoose]

You've explained it beautifully. Sometimes we indeed might misunderstand music. However I can't agree that this theme is bad for the main soundtrack. Also, I've read about how Zimmer works and it is some kind of a vacuum sometimes. People tell him the concept and the emotion, then he starts creating. What emotions did you hear in this music? There were a bunch. Maybe you didn't recognise them or you don't like feeling them, so you became distant almost instantly.

[@NoName-ym5zj]

@@ImpGoose I don't think I have said that it's bad. Just that I didn't feel anything in particular. Perhaps, saying "anything" is not accurate, let me rephrase it and say that I didn't feel any particularly strong emotions. It feels more like an opening to a scene, rather than a theme, I unfortunately lack the musical knowledge to explain exactly what I mean. It's certainly suspenseful, foreboding, epic, and has that high, dark fantasy vibe and it's clearly masterfully done. Yet, after hearing it, I cannot remember the melody or anything about it, I had to go back and listen to it when answering you, because I literally forgot what it sounds like. Mayeb that's the thing: It lacks a strong melody. I can remember and kinda sing to you theme from DAO, Hawke's theme from DA2 or main theme of DAI, as well as THAT theme from Tresspasser. This one? I really cannot. Working in a vacuum and having no experience in video games might've contributed to this strange "theme".

[@velemamba260]

I like this theme, but I don't love it. But that's honestly not surprising since I'm not big into music, so it's rare for a game soundtrack to really stick with me unless it's got lyrics I can sing (your videos have had me singing Sera's tavern song pretty frequently these days). That being said, I know that this is an objectively good and beautiful piece of music that I'm sure will hit harder when I hear it in the context of the game, same way that The Dawn Will Come becomes so much more emotional and effecting when it's been connected to the various big moments of Inquisition. I agree that a lot of people are just hating for the sake of hating. I honestly think that at worst, this game's going to fine, not actually bad. It gets exhausting trying to whether all their opinions.

[@ImpGoose]

Sorry for making you sing Sera 😅 I like this song myself and it's catchy haha

[@velemamba260]

@@ImpGoose No need to apologize, I like it too! All those tavern songs were really nice, I hope we get some new ones with Veilguard. Sera's honestly my go-to romance and a favorite character of mine.

[@averagelok1959]

Starfield had a great album from inon zur the game was still empty trash. Im sorry but yall are focusing on the parts that simply dont make games good origins's sound track didnt make the game great, the characters, world, story, and gameplay did. Your hair physics and soundtrack doesnt overshadow the blatant lack of care shown in every other field. The people making this game didnt even use the prior games to help make this one they ignored everything about dragon age to make this one. An arguemnt can be made that this isnt even a dragon age game since major lore aspects are removed to make it easier for these terrible writers. Im sure none of this means anything to any of you since your minds simply wont be changed even though the fact that there are only 3 choices had to be leaked by an insider who wouldnt let them hide something that killed the game for almost all the fans. You say your staying for the story but what story, it isnt our story its this studios story a studio that didnt like nor play the previous games. This game isnt dragon age, its removed to much of the original construct to be from the same ip. To anyone saying all dragon ages games were drasticlay different is simply wrong.

[@ddmaster08]

i really like the main theme, but it's interesting that it sounds more like boss music rather than a usual main theme. i assume that's his goal, given the world ending nature of the plot.

[@ImpGoose]

There's so much hopelessness in the first part and then it all starts crumbling down. If this is what Hans thinks I need to feel, then the DAV story will destroy me emotionally and I'll cry like a baby 🥹

[@ddmaster08]

@@ImpGoose when that fast part starts, like slashes, gives me shivers

[@martilyn3502]

Not everyone likes something just because of the name behind it. Some people judge things on their merit and not by the brand slapped on. Some people don't like classical music......and that's intolerable to you? If you can't find even one negative thing I honestly find that disingenuous..... everything isn't perfect and you don't like that people point it out? I'm a DA fan from almost day one and this game doesn't excite me at all. It's a mediocre game at best and some of us are tired of the unending praise just because BioWare? Everyone doesn't get down with classical music and that makes them negative/miserable people??? No, you don't have to be anyone's equal to criticize anything. Have you created a form of everything you've ever criticized? Yeah, didn't think so. You can't complain about judgement while simultaneously judging others. Just wow.😂😂😂😂😂

[@carole5648]

fix your hummer! haha

[@ImpGoose]

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