The Very True Story of Jordan Peterson

[@scratchmann]

Male nurse here. Man I've been working for years with mostly women. Dang, I didn't know none of us were getting work done this whole time because...uhhh....some of my co-workers wear makeup?

[@harrynac6017]

Yeah, in the days of yore, nursing has always been an all male job.

[@O1OO1O1]

I'm sure Peterson would argue there's no such thing as a male nurse.

[@potaterjim]

@@O1OO1O1 "What does Nurse even mean anymore?"

[@atreyu12341234]

He was implying that men are builders and women guardians. You are really Greg Focker in real life, aren't you?

[@atreyu12341234]

@@fctoryReset I forgot about this and you’re totally right !

[@Mexie]

party tonite in the matriarchal world of darkness !

[@mrprutten]

I'll see you there Mexie! I can't stand this patriarchal world of light. Please forgive my sunglasses. It's been inordinately "bright" over here.

[@theRiver_joan]

The matriarchal world of darkness, aka “witch world, baby”

[@awesomesauce3951]

Parties are no fun in blinding patriarchal light. The matriarchal world knows what’s up, see y’all there

[@Rose-vb4wk]

No men allowed

[@Rose-vb4wk]

@@bluepsiongamer4909 nah >:3

[@InezAllen]

high heels, shoes that were notably invented FOR MEN TO WEAR when riding horses

[@alexturlais8558]

@@ayo0702 not the other horsemen, the horses.

[@KD-ou2np]

@@ayo0702 ... thats implying women started wearing heels to be attractive when the opposite is true. Women started wearing heels when it was not the norm or accepted, and then after that ideas about what was attractive for women to wear changed. I would also add that attractive is a very general and vague term, for instance men started popularly wearing the heels to be percieved as taller to be seen as more masculine. some ppl think height is attractive, so you could apply the same bullshit argument to men and say its only sexual because you think it is, regardless of what they say.

[@KD-ou2np]

@@ayo0702 sorry... that legit sounded to me like something dumb a JP fan would try to insert

[@lordsamich755]

"high heels, shoes that were notably invented FOR MEN TO WEAR when riding horses" What utility is derived from a pair of stiletto heels? Or did you think you made a valid point?

[@zec.4491]

@@lordsamich755 What exactly is your point? A functional shoe was adapted to be a part of fashion?

[@razorednight]

I'm intrigued that Peterson is scared of "crazy women" because the "rules" say he can't beat them up. I'm fairly sure the law says you can't beat up "crazy" men either. Unless they are going to harm *you*, in which case self defense applies. And the law does not limit you to defending yourself forcefully against men only. You can beat up women too, in order to defend yourself. Something that Peterson must know; I'm sure he has researched the topic of justifiably beating women, probably dreams about the day when he can smash a woman's face in without any legal repercussions.

[@zammmerjammer]

I'm baffled that Peterson forgets that men beat up women all the damn time.

[@NosebleeddeGroselha]

Also men like him talk about men beating up men being completely okay and socially acceptable…. When it’s not?? If two men start beating each other up in the street, people will call the police on them; the first one to be attacked can and will press charges on the other; and at the very least they will disturb the people around. Has he forgot bar fights exist? Lmao

[@svrvphimprod]

It's almost like he's not talking about self defense so much as senseless violence motivated by bigotry

[@DavidRYates-tk2tq]

Yeah, the law gives people a lot (too much, frankly) leeway with this! You can even murder people and the law will say it's fine if you say self defense, so JPs could go around MURDERING these "crazy women" if he wanted to! But, oh no, he can't even so much as beat up "crazy women", for whatever reason. Could it be, hmmm, maybe that they're NOT actually crazy at all? No, no, I'm sure they're really crazy and he's actually onto something. Must be!

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

Also, the one-sidedness of it -- his argument is literally that women have an unfair advantage in debates because it's so easy for men to beat the sh*t out of them that women can take advantage of the men's fear of being socially shamed for beating a woman to be super rude and out of line. But there's absolutely no disadvantages involved with trying to debate someone who might snap and beat the sh*t out of you and you'd be pretty powerless to defend yourself. Literally no man can take advantage of that power imbalance to harass or demean women. :/

[@AbdallahTeach]

the dragon of chaos is my favorite yugioh trap card.

[@stefvanroey8191]

My matriarchal darkness field card will empower it!

[@manicjackson]

Sweet I got a shiny Dark Magician and Blue Eyes Chaos Dragon fusion card, but I have to get the Precosmogonic Egg ritual summon spell.

[@catqueensina]

That entire thing reads like something akin to the Warcraft Universe planes of existence chart.

[@MrKaneShadow]

I prefer Blue Eyes White Nationalism

[@apoorunfortunatesoul4164]

Yeah that's how he gets yu-gi-oh fans

[@LepusZeppelin]

I just want to point out that high-heeled shoes were intended for men initially. Women took up high heeled shoes during the Renaissance as a form of protest.

[@rainehappy7097]

I love history.

[@The_Jovian]

Time to take high heels back

[@rainehappy7097]

@@The_Jovian Who even wears them in this day and age?

[@Demiglitch]

Reminds me of that bit in Samurai Jack where he gets some high heels with giant spikes for heels because he loves them and thinks they'd be good weapons, then everyone laughs at him.

[@amandap9332]

Those b!tches! Why would they do that to us???

[@720pchannel]

"The unbearable present". Well, at least he got something right

[@Alienami]

A broken clock is right twice a day.... And yet he is only right once... 🤔🤔🤔

[@BigWillProductions1]

I tuned out for like 5 seconds and somehow we're talking about DRAGONS?????????????

[@spritepunk]

Right?

[@666Eva]

That's just how Thought Slime rolls

[@iansullivan9738]

Shit, you failed your perception check. Dragon gets a free first turn. Roll initiative.

[@augusthands9932]

Literally zoned out due to sleep deprivation and came back to 'Voluntary descent of the Buddah' like bro, where is the social justice I signed up for

[@Trepidateousflesh]

I was spitting my drink on my self, laughing at Peterson's deranged shenanigans and INSANE inner machinations.

[@Aconitum_napellus]

I've gotta say, 'The Matriarchal World of Darkness' sounds like an amazing place, I'd love to visit.

[@conservativessuck_hard581]

Yes, it sounds far more interesting than the Patriarchal World of Light!

[@aaroncarson1770]

It's Alberta!

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

@@conservativessuck_hard581 Peterson may be a dumbass but he'd make an interesting fantasy writer.

[@TheFiresloth]

Clearly, it's the underdark of the drows. Consequently, women are dark elves.

[@Yr_218]

@@TheFiresloth Nah, he just stole motifs from Sumerian and Babylonian mythology. Christians love to do that.

[@RandyQuaker]

That diagram is not the work of a sane person

[@poodychulak]

4D Hypercube aEsThEtHiCc

[@keithklassen5320]

Meh. If you've ever read work by the early vanguard of psychology, that's pretty standard stuff. I have a lot of problems with JBP, but that stuff is mistargetted in my opinion.

[@b3at2]

ExpertSystems it's the work of a person making money off bullshit

[@GamesFromSpace]

He has surpassed timecube guy.

[@desu38]

It's almost as complex as Jreg's political compass... almost.

[@thoughtfuldevil6069]

"Lips turn red during arousal" So Gothic girls are some subspecies whose lips and eyelids turn black during arousal? Damn. What do I tell my girlfriend?

[@zammmerjammer]

Never mind that lips and cheeks also flush when you climb 6 flights of stairs... or realize you just walked 10 blocks with your skirt tucked into your underwear... or if someone drops a spider on your face. Weird that flushed look is kind of just an indicator of general health and/or any heightened emotion.

[@AnUnbotheredQueen]

Mills casually describing Peterson's diagrams as if it's not the wackiest craziest shit in the universe will forever remain as one of the funniest moments from this channel.

[@gweilojohn]

I'm coming a bit late to this particular party, but my word, these diagrams and commentary are absolutely magnificent.

[@lonk2026]

the diagrams look like shitposts

[@StarcallerCeri]

My eyes glazed over and I tuned out during the graphs section. Holy shit. I think my consciousness briefly teleported into the void of... matriarchal... darkness...? Jesus Christ.

[@shady8045]

Ceri what did any of that mean XD

[@redspade96]

In a reasonable society, someone like Stefan Molyneux should be laughed at and ridiculed to obscurity, not endorsed by (inexplicably) socially powerful and respected so-called "intellectuals".

[@atreyu12341234]

If he's not being laughed at then maybe he's not the problem, you are. I am laughing at you right now so the system you've just described works.

[@manderly33]

@@atreyu12341234He’s definitely the problem, and you might be a fascist.

[@RadicalReviewer]

I love the "no make up in the workplace" clip ... like Peterson why do you wear a suit when sweat pants and crocks are objectively more comfortable...maybe because dressing well gives you a sense of confidence and there are societal expectations of presenting a certain way to be taken seriously at work...or wait Peterson wears a suit because he's obviously trying to seduce everyone he wears a suit around.

[@johannageisel5390]

The suit is cut in a way to emphasize the male figure with its broad shoulders and narrow hips. Your suit is sexually suggestive, Peterson! UNDRESS RIGHT NOW!

[@ivandafoe5451]

Perhaps a male Professor with sexual fantasies about attractive female students etc., finds it more convenient to control women's freedom to present themselves as they prefer, than to control his own inconvenient urges.

[@RadicalReviewer]

i have to say I disagree on all accounts.1) sure clothing is a requirement but not nice clothing. I've worn both make up and neckties and they are equally uncomfortable and yet a professional workplace often have requirements (even unspoken) to wear them.2) being snarky is often a form of disarming a reactionary response. humor, some brevity, can break down barriers and allow for more honest conversation.

[@whitelightsheddinweedsmokin]

I like Jordan B. Peterson but in this argument he would probably provide a passage from an obscure book or a classic of literature that has nothing to do with anything to prove his points.

[@stellabee2026]

i just wanna know exactly what he thinks i’m signaling when i wear purple highlighter, neon orange eyeshadow, green lipstick, or whatever bright ass color i decide to put on my face

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

I'm so happy that my lack of make-up and sensible shoes means I'm fit for the office. That it also means Jordan Peterson would never hit on me is just a happy accident.

[@voltairinekropotkin5581]

Peterson's philosophy in _Maps of Meaning_ is like something out of a Dungeons & Dragons book. Knights of order, swords of truth, dragons of chaos.

[@OokamiKageGinGetsu]

@Harmony Alexandria Peterson, slayer of dragons. Peterson, whose work causes controversy and results in the Dragon of Chaos. In their tongue he is called Dovahkiin - Dragonborn!

[@Sunkincid]

ROFLMAO

[@Patrick-Phelan]

Agreed with Kali. D&D libels. The Manual of the Planes is FUN. (By which I mean it's an excellent comparison, but that Peterson should get the worst of it.)

[@coco_rthritis6462]

Those diagrams look like they were randomly generated

[@justinmeans3446]

Yeah? Like a fractal.

[@justynawisniewska1213]

Looks like a teenager tried to make sketches for his fantasy book on Adderall.

[@NuncNuncNuncNunc]

Looks like he found a topology or category theory text and tried to fit his worldview onto diagrams he liked.

[@mechadonia]

Looks like a flier youd get handed by a schizophrenic homeless person

[@joshuascholar3220]

Think of how much funnier they would have been if he used AI to generate them.

[@KnockOffNerd]

I also got my psych degree in Canada, And that is not what the literature says concerning IQ and race. Most of the observable differences in the scores between races have been attributed to the bias of the IQ exam itself and not some biological “defect”. The test is flawed, not the individual. That is a very dangerous misreading of the literature Mr. Peterson

[@claudeghendrih762]

Knock-Off Nerd I also read somewhere that back in the 1920 some tried to reduce the influx of ashkenazi jews in the US based on their purported IQ test inferiority . Odd thing being that either over performing or under performing are perfectly sound grounds( for those guys ) for discrimination or genocide . Sounds as if most people's strategy of achieving crass averageness is a sound survival technique , I kind of feel redeemed by this epiphany and excused for the very sound repetition of sounds .

[@ted3007]

How is the test flawed?

[@KnockOffNerd]

@@ted3007 There are plenty of criticisms of the Stanford-Binet IQ test (which is what I assume they are referring to). The part I was mostly speaking to was that IQ tests only really predict success in schools - they do not successfully or reliably predict much more beyond that. The tests were based on/tested for, mainstream white, middle-class education (I am white, middle class educated myself). Historically, this type of education was not available to everyone and therefore many races/income classes outside of the white middle-class were tested on things they were never really exposed to. Race is not only genetics but is also socio-cultural - which is what many of the 'biases' of the exam fail to address, leading to some skewed results. Think of any culture (even a fictious one) where they may value 'something' that your culture may have never even heard of. Now imagine being placed in their culture and having your intelligence defined by your knowledge of that 'something' - I'm sure you are an intelligent person, but you would likely be considered less intelligent simply due to a lack of knowledge of some cultural artifact that they believe to be a sign of intelligence. It is akin to asking someone who was never been exposed to math to take a math test. Their performance would not necessarily indicate how 'smart' or not they are, but rather demonstrate their lack of exposure to math. The same is true for many races who did not necessarily have the same socio-economic background that the IQ test assumes they 'should' have. Additionally, I spoke as though this was all in the past. While many revisions have been made to IQ tests to account for this bias, these issues still unfortunately persist. Finally, as I mentioned earlier, IQ tests do not reliably predict post education system success or intelligence - IQ tests only predict success in school, which makes sense since the IQ exam was forged in the same mindset that the education system was. In short; “If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

[@ted3007]

Knock-Off Nerd well IQ tests I've seen don't rely on any outside knowledge of subjects, seemed like more puzzle solving. I do believe IQ differences between races would be based more on cultural reasons but I'm not gonna say there isn't differences.

[@DIVAD291]

​@@KnockOffNerd Do you have a concrete example of this cultural bias? Because as it stand your argument could literally be "well logic isn't given the same importance in X culture". Which is a stupid argument because obviously you could then argue that X culture doesn't care about logic because its not good at logic in the first place. Your example would have to be something superficial like "The test asks about the rules of hockey so obviously African kids don't perform as well" And I honestly doubt any serious test would ask about stuff that superficial.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

So fun fact, there's a book called "How Jordan Peterson Plagiarises Hitler" that goes over the more than 3,000 times Peterson directly plagiarises Mein Kampf for Maps of Meaning.

[@EveryTimeV2]

It is a very badly reviewed book on good reads and Amazon. But yeah, it exists, to whose benefit I don't know. It is pretty obvious that Peterson is convinced of a literal Nazi bogeyman though. "The myth of the cultural Marxist". Literally Nazi propaganda.

[@atanvardecunambiel8917]

What?! Three thousand?! Impossible!

[@modestoney1577]

@@almightypotatoe4592 of course not...that`s the kind of "argument" of people trying to piss on JP

[@josephbales7021]

Huh. The book is real. But I can't find a free pdf to check the contents, so I can't say how accurate it is.

[@threebirdsinatrenchcoat]

@@modestoney1577 I'd like to piss on jp

[@The_gaming_archaeologist]

"We push and then it gets physical." No...it gets physical the moment you started pushing.

[@potaterjim]

Having issues with the definition of the word "physical"

[@pmmcrn]

@@potaterjim its like they start fighting in this context

[@Empedocles449]

Imagine Peterson in a fight. Guy'd break in half in a strong breeze. I'll bet moneys that all these fights he's having are in his head, along with the rest of the world he sees.

[@atreyu12341234]

He actually meant that in men's world the physical threat is always there in a conflict so we try our best to remain civil in our discours and actions. Women don't have this usually, even though there are situations of women abuse. He was talking in general in the western world. It's easy to feel good about yourself when you actually don't do anything to help others but instead you find someone with a different opinion and jump on him accusing him of being racist, sexist, extremist, misogynistic, etc. I'm wondering how many of you people actually did something in their lives that benefitted others.

[@joshk7051]

​@@atreyu12341234 good points.

[@DragonNexus]

A fact I feel always needs bringing up when talking about people who tell you what to eat. "Dietician" is a legally protected term. You need to earn that and cannot just call yourself one without opening yourself up to trouble. Which is why people call themselves a "neutritionist", which any bozo can call themselves. It's like picking between going to see a doctor or a healthologist.

[@Doctor-Infinite]

thank you i didn’t know this

[@NonCompete]

Lobster Kermit's diagrams are literally what you see scrawled in the notebook of the serial killer in 90s crime thrillers

[@Aeshir2]

when I saw them I thought "hey why can't this dumb dick just do political cartoons instead of get famous by yelling at me about water bugs"

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

I was getting a Hannibal Lecter vibe... No wonder lol.

[@Titleknown]

How dare you insult him like that, everyone knows Kermit the Frog would kick the shit out of Jorgen Von Pinkerton, don't compare good boi Kermit to the nastyman.

[@jerryb4705]

Your the Reason this vid popped up in my Recommendation I watched one of your videos and Now I'm Here.

[@anarchisttechsupport6644]

And all he did was rebrand Carl Jung's pseudo-science for a new century, pretending to sprinkle neuroscience on top of Freud.

[@StefanSochinsky]

"Are you a misogynist?" "I don't want to get boxed in. That question doesn't work for me on multiple levels so I'll say that I act as if women are inferior to men and should be treated as such."

[@dp503]

Unproven accusation

[@shady8045]

@@dp503 he was making a joke about the “do you believe in god” thing lmao

[@PoppinHoops]

Isn't a chauvinist someone that is overly proud of their country?

[@hoagielamp6543]

@@PoppinHoops No. Ever heard of male chauvinism?

[@PoppinHoops]

@@hoagielamp6543 no what is it? English isn't my first language

[@samanthaleroy1669]

i NEVER wanna listen to jordan peterson talk abt sexual arousal EVER AGAIN

[@returnofbeaux]

his voice is sooo gross

[@williamcasey1927]

Or, part of sexual arousal involves hearing Jordan peter'son over, and over, and over again. While wearing crotchless chaps, swim fins, a translucent Teddy, and a brony hat. Snorkel and creamy peanut butter optional. Lava lamp required. I'll be headed off to the monastery...

[@maddisonlussin7375]

Jordan Peterson and thunderf00t both said the same gross thing about red lipstick mimicking arousal and it made me want to vomit both times.

[@maddisonlussin7375]

Nat20 Damage yes! That’s always what I’m thinking when I put on makeup...

[@maddisonlussin7375]

Islam is cancer as if I needed anymore cringe :p

[@cheesebiscuits3586]

Lipstick because lips are red during arousal, Blush because cheeks flush during arousal, High heels because feet grow large spikes during arousal...

[@cheesebiscuits3586]

@not insane pee is stored in the balls, sperm is stored in the spikes change my mind

[@mrknarf4438]

High heels because they force the hips and spine in a way the ass and boobs pop out more, actually.

[@Distimmer]

They're called 'spurs' and that's why its 'cowgirl'

[@mrknarf4438]

@@Distimmer ?

[@Purpleturtlehurtler]

@@mrknarf4438 you got woooooshed twice in one thread.

[@jjjorp]

"what if I wrote 'Hero With A Thousand Faces' but made it completely unreadable?" - Jordan B. Peterson, probably

[@emmettchan5545]

@2manynegativewaves Underrated

[@3ertin]

The hero with a thousand faces is much harder to read, I think. But it blew my mind.

[@silverlightsinaugust2756]

He’s either unwittingly or willingly esoteric, and I think he’s an actual obscurantist on a variety of points. He makes many ideas much more difficult to understand than they need to be. I recognized one or two of the things in his weird charts, but I have no idea what the precosmogonic egg is.

[@sucrow7659]

Silver Lights In August my interpretation of it is like, the seed of the universe, the like before existence there was the “egg” imo it’s silly but whatever word salad is a thing sometimes

[@sigmacademy]

@@silverlightsinaugust2756 Probably because he's combining different concepts from different fields and portraying it in visual terms that he's familiar with, not necessarily the best visual representation that it can be shown within?

[@poserGirl863]

I know this video is old but I just have to say how sickening it is to hear a PSYCHOLOGIST use the term „crazy woman“ (well everything he says is sickening)

[@happygucci5094]

This

[@happygucci5094]

This

[@clsisman]

Don’t worry, he’s not a psychologist ☺️

[@waytoohypernova]

jordan "isnt it awful how i cant beat hysterical women back into their place????" peterson

[@jupitermoongauge4055]

Jesus Christ , you could have had a warning that Peterson and Molyneux were going to appear on the screen together, how am I supposed to sleep tonight ?

[@DavidLee-vi8ds]

@Drake ICN while Ben Shapiro watches from the corner of the room.

[@JaredAllaway]

This guy is a psych professor and uses the term "crazy women" what the hell

[@willowarkan2263]

@Glenna Smith Hey it's a surprise he doesn't use the word hysterical directly, i guess that would be too cartoonish.

[@joshl6275]

His patients are also "ruined" by their mothers. Smh

[@JaredAllaway]

@@joshl6275 what the hell !

[@joshl6275]

@@JaredAllaway just goes to show you can have an advanced degree and still be a moronic chud.

[@joshl6275]

@James Registe Peterson? A charlatan? No way 😂

[@TheSerfsTV]

When this video started I was like "oh god please do a reading of his insane graphs" and then at 4:08 I was granted my wish and laughed hysterically.

[@readwrecks]

That video you guys put out was great. I watched it last night, but I was still laughing at the part about how Peterson didn’t think Freud was sufficient to analyze his dreams today.

[@TheSerfsTV]

@@readwrecks We have an even better story coming out next week

[@ashkuigp]

The whole thing sounds like a video on dark souls lore. I was forced to check if youtube changed video.

[@ericmcintosh1926]

hey dudes thank you so much for the stream of the debate last night.

[@thepanpiper7715]

All I can tell you is that that is the shittiest drawing of the U.S.S. Enterprise I've ever seen.

[@gabrielfeldinger6533]

Jordan Peterson: "Can I offer you a Precosmogonic Egg in this trying time?"

[@goolumf]

underrated comment

[@KD-ou2np]

I gotta hand it to him in one singular aspect. He is a highly skilled purveyor of kooky and vague academic words which are fun to say.

[@Enkarashaddam]

But nobody talks about the PROcosmogonic Egg. Checkmate Peterson.

[@Mdnjdvd]

Love it when men say women represent chaos. Who cleaned up after you your whole life?

[@hayleygullett]

slav waifu 🙌🏼

[@elenapopovic6261]

Slav waifu!!!!! You just made my day with that name. I'm just waiting till Peterson's wife divorces him and comes out with a tell-all about his spousal abuse. If I knew how to gamble i'd start a pool.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

slav waifu Yeah, they simultaneously believe that women represent only chaos, disorder and strife, but also that women are trustworthy enough to feed you, raise your children, clean your house, and buy your stuff. If that sounds paradoxical, that’s because it is. The claims of misogynists aren’t actually founded on anything of substance, and all of their arguments are attempting to code masculinity and femininity as they see fit.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Elena Popovic Well, imagine it. ‘Cause it’s very real. And VEEEERY prevalent.

[@ecxstasy347]

slav waifu slav Christianity? The bible? Adam and Eve? Islam? The Kuran? Of course, I need my mom to clean up after me for my whole life! It’s not like my dad was there for any of it anyways.

[@jussts]

15:45 Pssst, Jordan... that's forbidden in discourse with men too. It's called assault.

[@archer1949]

jussts Assault laws are just artificial constructs promoted by the SJW Cultural Marxists to keep the Superior White Male down.

[@markschwartz1565]

I can't imagine Peterson doing anything but running from a violent physical confrontation with a man.

[@prierepanda2186]

@Brook Heyes are you talking about the 1936 Olympics ?

[@aaronwalterryse4281]

@@markschwartz1565 yea ya gotta wonder what really happened the last time he slugged somebody I could sorta imagine him standing there with that sour dour hangdog face of his and just weeping

[@Gr3ypsTFT]

@@archer1949 Honestly I would be surprised if someone arguing against SJWs believed in social constructs. They ignore how gender, and race are social constructs for example.

[@majarimennamazerinth5753]

Someone needs to remind Peterson that regardless of how many cultures came up with similar ideas (e.g. that chaos, night, darkness etc is feminine) that idea isn't automatically trustworthy.

[@SonofSethoitae]

It's also weird that he uses "The Void" for the feminine principle, but "Yahweh" for god. Surely if he's going to use the authentic Hebrew word for one, he would do so for the other, but that would require him to use "Tehom" or "The Deep" instead of Void.

[@GrammeStudio]

could it be the similarity be attributed to the fact that we evolved the same brain structure and organization before we evolved cultures separately? wow, what a shocking revelation that solves such a huge conundrum! wow, various cultures believe in flat earth? well I guess the earth must be flat after all!

[@NIHIL_EGO]

Moreover, I also don't like the implication that these things are inherently bad. Chaos, night, dark, are all part of the system, even if they appears dangerous and uncomfortable. We would be utterly fucked if they disappeared one day.

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

@@NIHIL_EGO that's not an implication; that's an inference.

[@mrknarf4438]

Well, you have to at least wonder why that is.

[@ahdumbs1161]

I learned in my years of calculus that if a graph doesn’t easily communicate what it’s trying to then it’s failed at being a graph that is literally the most confusing graph I have seen

[@shevek5185]

After the sixth minute: "Oh, so that's the reason why no one in anthropology school or religions studies talk about the great Dr. Peterson." What a load of jargon filled nonsensical crap.

[@lazerbeam134]

I love how people accuse leftist intellectuals of being pretentious for using academic terminology when you have guys like Peterson and Molyneux running around on the alt-right lmao

[@tijuanaforeplay8232]

I know, at least the leftist intellectuals use the terms correctly. Peterson and Molymeme have been spreading around the term "logos" but their use of it is so wrong. Now the entire rightwing choadsphere is throwing the term logos around but they basically use it to mean IQ, high IQ, ironically.

[@tokukeitaro]

Minor nitpick: Molyneux isn't an intellectual, he has fuck all qualifications. He''s a mouth breathing nazi cult leader.

[@whenyou6061]

lazerbeam134 I think you’re right for the most part, but Peterson isn’t really alt-right. Hes more of a straightforward conservative Christian type. Still dumb, but not “the Jews do everything bad, establish a white ethnostate!!!1!1!!!” dumb.

[@Rotyoto]

All right does is projection.

[@abdulrahmanchalya7873]

I haven't heard of any accusations against the left for that. I have heard and believe the left dont know gun terms though

[@SFtheWolf]

next time I need to make a flowchart for anything I'm saving time by simply adding a dragon labeled CHAOS

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

Out of food -> Go to store -> eat food over the course of time -> food runs out -> See beginning -> CHAOS DRAGONS!!

[@cottontaelle]

i was like 69. cool

[@TheFiresloth]

The Chaos dragon ate my homeworks.

[@danrudge5997]

Cool. You do you. Ignore actually figuring out the diagram and just look at it with 0 understanding of where it comes from so you can feel superior and ridicule it. This behaviour will serve you well in future.

[@SFtheWolf]

@@danrudge5997 I'm a comp sci major I know how to read a diagram, I'm using the funny drawing to make fun of the bad opinions

[@deltahalo241]

"Lips are red during arousal" *My lips after a drink of water* *_A R O U S E D_*

[@akorn9943]

Doctor Peterson, why do you wear a tie? A tie is a formal piece of clothing and formal clothing is worn to impress women. Why do you need it? And what about dress shoes?

[@ox1gen735]

@@akorn9943 Actually its not to impress women its to seem intellectual and seeming formal and can be taken seriously. The point of that was to explain that all those accessories arent needed in the workplace. Lip stick for sexy looking lips or something similar. High heels to look good. And to look good for WHO? Why?

[@Gay_Bradbury]

I woke up after 4 days of 12 hour shifts last week, I was white as a sheet and my lips were red, so I guess fatigue is sexy??

[@akorn9943]

@@ox1gen735 Wha? Men wear a suit a tie to look formal and be taken seriously when… isn’t that what makeup and high heels are for? Is that not just the formal wear that society has decided the opposite sex should wear? Of course it also looks good because you’re more willing to trust someone who looks good, same reason people wear a suit and tie.

[@sunteeththegenderpunk6414]

i mean to be fair, when its a hot day and a cold cup of water when youre Really thirsty? it gets pretty close to sexual

[@davidcolby167]

No one tell Jordan Peterson that men and women have worked together for the vast majority of human history. Like, uh, what does he think the women are DOING on farms?

[@alexturlais8558]

Sitting inside putting on high heels and makeup to sexually arouse their husbands at the end of the day, obviously.

[@madhatt3r93]

Give birth. Sew. Collect eggs and milk cows. Maybe cook. Thats about it, in his eyes.

[@frogwithknives3749]

This whole comment is gold

[@voidofspace]

It's one of his contradictions. He's not explicitly against women's rights to work or vote per se, but when he claims that women cannot join men in the workplace, like...???

[@frankwilliamk3769]

He speaks about that all the time lol, nice try

[@Kaytlynkayt]

BRB, retreating back into my matriarchal world of darkness. see you in a few eons.

[@dmkelsey6251]

When I saw those graphs I laughed so hard my soul left my body

[@Solereaper21]

And obviously went into the void of the Virgin Mary

[@blarg2429]

@@Solereaper21 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@soph1111e]

He has to use overtly obscure academic language and intentionally confusing diagrams to dress up his books because otherwise people would realize he’s just regurgitating Joseph Campbell’s “Hero’s Journey” with a lot more sexism and transphobia.

[@adoramay9410]

Like, really. He claims that white privilege wouldn't pass an honors thesis. But, almost all of his claims would be torn apart during his defense of his thesis. Which, begs the question, why the fuck did the dissertation committee allow him to graduate if this is how he argues? There is so much bullshit, easily debunked, Freudian like psychology coming out of his mouth

[@user-is3yn7xr4c]

Jordan Peterson is a racist post-modern Christian supremacist. He has been recently kicked-out of academia due to his chaotic ideological illness.

[@carsonpearce5980]

im a bit late, but yeah, this whole time I was like “wow, I didn’t realize how much peterson wanted to be Campbell”

[@oculttheexegaming2509]

@@carsonpearce5980 And Mircea Eliade.

[@sebasmusician736]

Me: why should i buy 12 Rules of Life to cure my depression when i can just eat beef Jordan Peterson has left the chat

[@IsmailBae-l9h]

Sebas Musician You nailed it mate

[@KilgoreTroutAsf]

Astrology for straight men.

[@suides4810]

Kilgore Trout lmao

[@xocoyotl4]

White straight men

[@NANA-tz7ep]

Funny how the ideas in his books would most serve people like you: who judge, criticize, and intervene without a solid understanding of their opposition or the source of their hatred.

[@LauraLovesHugs]

NA NA lmao Peterson stans are the saddest little bois

[@NANA-tz7ep]

@@LauraLovesHugs exactly my point, thanks.

[@wolfumz]

17:40 molyneux's still doing his bit on how it breaks his heart that hes genetically more intelligent than blacks. Good lord.

[@feonjun]

Many years ago, when internet accesses were through the university computer labs or the library, there was no such thing as Wikipedia, which meant everyone had to read books. I did a research paper on the topic of IQ for an introductory anthropology class. I concluded that IQ tests have their usefulness, but not as much as Mr. Mutilated-Nuts would like everyone to believe: 1. A simple stress and logic tests can weed out the mentally challenged people. 2. Different culture and regions, even within a single nation, have different thinking patterns. The best modern equivalent is Boomers vs Millennial on their handling of modern technology and reference symbols. 3. Sample sizes are too small to make such general statement about IQ between the races. 4. A single war can wipe out knowledge for generations to come.

[@feonjun]

@@autosadist Donno what that means. I am internet dumb now.

[@DarylStreete]

@Feon Jun It means that you're coming off as slightly eugenicist because you poorly phrased the "weed out the mentally challenged people" I get that you i just meant that it allows you to identify people with mental disorders but it sounds like a bad take.

[@feonjun]

@@DarylStreete Ah, I got ya. I did phrased it wrong, and I'll leave it that that.

[@XxzanesterxX]

@@feonjun with context the "weeding them out" phrase deserved no scrutiny. I'm on these people side and stuff like this really bothers me. Go dissect your enemies words not your allies, just spinelessness.

[@baiwatch1]

Awe. Just imagine the deep pain Stefan Molyneux felt when he discovered the "truth" that the race and gender he belongs to is the the smartest on earth. He must have been heartbroken.

[@user-is3yn7xr4c]

Are you saying he's an East Asian despite not looking like one?

[@celticcook3950]

@@user-is3yn7xr4c What race do you think he is?

[@user-is3yn7xr4c]

@@celticcook3950 He looks European descent

[@happygoluckyscamp]

It's like if someone took Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell, edited out all the good bits and logic, put them through the wood chipper from the end of Fargo, and then sold it for $75 CND

[@Patrick-Phelan]

Goddamn poor wood chipper, couldn't even handle a Steve Buscemi leg. But I suppose if he used a good wood chipper, it wouldn't have that amazing Jordan B. Peterson tang of "not good".

Whenever I see a Fargo reference, I just feel compelled to like it.

[@ancestraltravels1201]

A perfect comment.

[@obiakabane1576]

r/brandnewsentence

[@HeavenlyEchoVirus]

Peterson thinks women have only been in the workforce for 40 years 😂😂😂

[@sigmacademy]

I believe the implied context of the statement was of the gender in management roles and in great numbers in the workforce, not the actual presence? Women were in management positions since ancient times (like priestesses of religions), but only in modern times were there actual numbers of women in the workforce, and he knows better than to make a statement without some statistics to back up any statement. :)

[@fenris610]

i think peterson might believe women were invented only 40 years ago... and they were invented to torment and titillate him!

[@Distimmer]

@@sigmacademy No. The vast majority of women have done fieldwork and manual labor since the dawn of time. The "housewife" being waited on by robots is a relatively new fantasy; idleness, historically, is a luxury only enjoyed by the rich.

[@Distimmer]

@@sigmacademy And you had women in the small mills, and in the big mines... the 'cottage industry' of England made wool and cotton for the world while the industrial revolution was ramping up, for one well-documented example.

[@iciajay6891]

My brother once tried to tell me Woman ( all in the world) could not read until WWII. He seems like he would enjoy Petersons shit.

[@wippgerlin]

You know, I always considered myself a bit of a feminist, but when he said "what about the high heels" the third time, it really got through too me.

[@una877]

Guess it's a choice between gender equality or 👠👠? Love wearing my Louboutins all day in the kitchen.

[@madisonstoner7405]

What about em dude

[@slavkovalsky1671]

@@una877 which have red soles... because... that's right! One of life's great mysteries finally explained!

[@NosebleeddeGroselha]

That video sounds like the type that people use to say he “owned” that guy, and that the guy was speechless because his arguments were refuted. And I can only amuse myself with that joke of a bitter man, yelling at that young man and not letting him speak, as said young man laughs at him like “wtf are you on dude? lol”

[@MintyCoolness]

I'm also pretty sure that heels were invented and worn by men, back in the day, before it shifted to being a feminine article of clothing. Guys just wanted to be tall, girls wanted to be tall, any inbetween wanted to be tall. Peterson has a habit of asking questions that coulld easily be explained if he had any common sense and proper research...

[@julianmorrisco]

But but but... Petersen holds The Dunning Krueger Chair in Histrionic Blowhardism at the University of God Bothering in Horses Arse, Canada. He must be smart.

[@twenchtowers3894]

Best description of Jordan Petersen ever!

[@ronnickels5193]

This can be seen in 22:08 It seems like a deep answer at first, but then you realize you heard the same thing in an episode of Xavier Renegade Angel.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

While Alberta kinda resembles Texas in conservatism, much of Quebec is closest to parts of medieval Europe in values dissonance.

[@twntwrs]

@@SlapstickGenius23 Tabernac

[@creativepseudonym9872]

I can't stop laughing at this description of Peterson. So freaking accurate.

[@domscards]

His writing is like something a cult leader would say during a retreat. Pure nonsense with tons of fluff.

[@bighiu-tofanchris717]

I can see him making his own cult in the future.

[@crackernipple6020]

You read his books?

[@donniedarko4045]

Did you really read his books? lmao all of this poor triggered Peterson haters are even worse than Peterson cultists.

[@foolishmuleth6757]

@@donniedarko4045 Dude if his books helped you or enlightened you then you literally needed to be reminded to blink

[@donniedarko4045]

@@foolishmuleth6757 dude if you say that about Jordan's self-help books then it can be said about almost all off the self-help books by literally every author lmao, Criticizing Peterson for WrItInG ObVioUs is dumb af because off that reason. He is writing about interesting ideas/his writing style is interesting subjectively/ It has greatly helped many people, this is a fact, you can find hundreds and probably thousands of online letters by real people about how did Peterson help them when they had some issues and needed it. I can't dee how is that a bad thing. I hate His cultist fanatic fans but I also can't stand with some idiots mindlessly bashing and hating on him lol

[@bugsephbunnin4576]

A simple way of say it: "Do you believe in god?" "Not in the christish one, but in my one, which is based on the christish god, but not the same."

[@RestingJudge]

@brmbly if he was a Catholic, Orthodox, or High Church protestant he'd have to concede to actual living & historical theologians. Not good for his ego.

[@angela_merkeI]

@@RestingJudge what's high church protestant?

[@RestingJudge]

@@angela_merkeI Anglicans, Lutherans, some Presbyterians etc. I acknowledge they have issues, but all of the churches I've mentioned rely on complex theology developed over the 2000 year history of Christianity so coming up with ideas with no basis is pretty much nonexistent. You've gotta back up your theology with sources so there is an amount of accountability in terms of what you preach.

[@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279]

I believe JP can't answer the "do you believe in God?" Question in a straight forward way, not because it is a bad question..it is quite simple to answer..yes or no or I am not sure. But he doesn't want to upset the vast majority of his fans by saying no. It's just a thought 😂

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@brmbly "I Can't believe it's not Yahweh"? :D

[@patroniconadon3777]

Wow, Peterson actually manages to be both bloated and reductive at the same time. Genius.

[@heartache5742]

when you shrink a picture in ms paint and then blow it back up and it looks like oatmeal

[@doransponsel4813]

Wtf are you talking about ingrate

[@doranbutler7468]

Doran Sponsel holy shit someone else with my given name

[@doransponsel4813]

@@doranbutler7468 it is indeed a rarity! Do you pronounce it doorin or dooranne? I'm the first, I always tell people to just think of going in a door. Doran. Lol

[@enby_kensei]

Jordan Peterson talks as if every answer he gives has a minimum word requirement.

[@adambrownbird4347]

Like Kermit omg I've never even seen the muppets

[@liz257]

He seems so sad he can't physically fight a woman... I almost want to let him punch me in the face or something

[@lordsamich755]

What do you think serves to imply that He wants to do that?

[@davidlewisjohnson4235]

@@lordsamich755 watch the video. Like, do the bare minimum and actually watch the video.

[@davidlewisjohnson4235]

@Faith Reader Lobster daddy got hooked on barbiturates, baby. Ignore him.

[@dustinharford8454]

If it's really about equality then what's the problem? Also, if there should be restrictions on physical contact with women then we should bar them from combat, policing, firefighting, etc., because we deem them to be more physically fragile than men. Pick a side, dude.

[@joedatius]

​@@dustinharford8454 because when it comes to averages men are just "usually" stronger then women but this has nothing to do with the men and women who work in those jobs and are far above average already and take in account what they are capable of just like how police officers are trained to deal with people who are stronger then them already because that is likely going to happen. its almost like there is a difference between a women in the Marines with years of exercise and training and a 5'5 110lb women who works at your local grocery store. most people are smart enough to understand this and that equality has nothing to do with hitting someone half your size because you're a pathetic loser

[@sociallyineptspider-man2366]

Jordan Peterson is still going through his "I'm fourteen and that's deep" phase

[@Vercettislugger]

It's more like "I'm fourteen and this is my bank balance"

[@handarule]

"I'm fourteen and they won't let me back into model UN ever since the incident..."

[@sigmacademy]

And yet he still outtalks anybody and everybody that comes with all kinds of factual incorrect and emotional arguments? All opponents are just silent and cannot reply back to anything he says except "you suck"? :P

[@pokeric]

Zizek got him good though

[@starvalkyrie]

@@sigmacademyI'm not sure constantly interrupting and shouting down your opponent with words that betray your true backwards feelings is admirable

[@Marxism_Today]

Both controversial and entergaging!

[@zoshiat4710]

It is ENTERGAVERSIAL!!!

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Zizek: *eats out of dumpster* Zizek: *donates his entire ticket taking* Truly, a modern day Diogenes.

[@Zalintis]

I have previously only heard if Zizek in good regards... was TS just joking or is he not cool?

[@pmmcrn]

@@Zalintis just joking probably

[@carysbebard3690]

That guy on Vice falling apart into laughter because of Peterson's ridiculous claims about make up made my day, delightful.

[@ToastyJunebugs]

Peterson: Is it possible to work with women?? Vice: … Yeah I'm literally doing it right now.

[@keithklassen5320]

@@ToastyJunebugs BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW

[@diegosanchez894]

"why would you put on makeup" "idk, some people enjoy doing it, some people like looking good" "tHeY wANt tHe D"

[@Gr3ypsTFT]

@@diegosanchez894 To be honest I was about to get heated about that, even as a guy. His smugness while also being blatantly incorrect makes it so unbearable.

[@pranavd309]

grey99p lol what are you smoking?

[@NonCompete]

999 view gang of 1 and i am it!

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Yayyy you're here. Love your videos too!

[@PotatoGawds]

thank you non compete

[@icarvs_vivit]

Oh, shit I remember you! Pathetic anarcho communist, right? Do you know that you have somehow managed to hold two suicidal beliefs at once. Hey, man. Good work.

[@NonCompete]

Hello to the two of you who don't seem like boring shitheads :)

[@marverak]

It's pretty weird how the clean your room dude can't keep his shit together

[@munis002]

So true if he is so gr8 at self help and can make rules for others and tell other what to do he shouldn't himself have become addicted to anti depression drugs

[@vangobango7627]

The last time I was as coherent as Peterson I was having a stroke

[@AttackHak]

😂😂😂😂 he is a long winded opinionated schizophrenic

[@gamehero6816]

@@AttackHak no, no, no, schizophrenia isn't an insult.

[@ohmygoditisspider7953]

Are you okay? Did you recover well from the stroke?

[@vangobango7627]

@@ohmygoditisspider7953 Truth be told, I haven't actually had a stroke. The comment was a joke

[@ohmygoditisspider7953]

@@vangobango7627 thank goodness!

[@philiprice6805]

This is taking Peterson out of context! Unless you read all his books, watch all his lectures, and view his entire life Truman Show-style, you won't be able to fully grasp what he's saying!

[@RuminatingRaptor]

You forgot about the required reading of his mind...

[@philiprice6805]

@@jeredansurgeon1056 What does this have to do with my obviously sarcastic comment? I'm the opposite of a Peterson fan, dude.

[@stanjones2126]

@@jeredansurgeon1056 Thanks for this. Now how can we convince one or two of these young guys who hang onto Peterson's every word to see the bigger picture and where Peterson is taking them.

[@stanjones2126]

Philip Rice You are giving us an excellent example of why the use of heavy sarcasm can lead to a confusing communication of ideas.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

@@philiprice6805 LOL. Happens to me as well. I blame Trump. He & his followers destroyed parody and sarcasm by stating the most cringeworthy nonsense non stop for years. Thus by now people find it hard to see the difference between sarcasm and 'Trumpism'. I only noticed the sarcasm when i read the last the last sentence in your comment,.

[@slabpanda]

The idea of Jordan Peterson having ever been in a fight, much less winning one, makes me laugh more than anything else in this video

[@4sight719]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@gaiusjuliuspleaser]

His ideas on violence are intriguing, though, which is why if I'm ever in a situation where I have to debate JP, my opening argument is going to be a left jab.

[@stevendurham9996]

He's from Calgary. That's oil country. You better knock him out with the first punch, or you'll get your ass kicked, followed by a lecture about projection. And some cookies.

[@slabpanda]

@@stevendurham9996 I’m from Texas, this is oil country too and unlike him, I’ve actually done that work🤷🏼‍♂️

[@stevendurham9996]

@@slabpanda Good for You.😊

[@jameslucrative2054]

Jordan Peterson's Warhammer 40k fanfic is tight "Chaos bad. You'll never slay the dragon until you clean your room and" "THIS QUIET OFFENDS SLAANESH THINGS SHALL GET LOUD NOW"

[@jonathandorozowsky4005]

I'm a big Peterson fan, but I also know funny. Kudos James.

[@DarcOfTheShadows]

"Logic for the logic god! Libs for the lib throne! Peterson cares not from whence the bullshit flows, only that it flows!"

[@andrefilipe9042]

@@jonathandorozowsky4005 You are the first sane person I found on this comment section. Thank you.

[@minhducnguyen674]

@@DarcOfTheShadows "It's complicated". Say this to the Inquisitor who is requesting you to do something and see how long it takes for him to draw his pistol.

[@kevinshamrok]

I watched an interview Peterson did in Scandinavia and when asked why he was popular, Jordan stated that it was due to his online lectures. Never mentions the lie about bill c-16 having anything to do with it

[@foolishmuleth6757]

Dude probably honestly thinks that people liked his lectures and not his reactionary rhetoric

[@shady8045]

I love how a lot of the rise of the online right can be attributed by really stupid and pointless singular events. Like one of Trumps advisors was literally involved in gamer gate.

[@wanderingthewastes6159]

@@foolishmuleth6757 where is Milo Yianopolis today?

[@foolishmuleth6757]

@@wanderingthewastes6159 Last I heard he pushes for conversion therapy and was "cured" of the gay

[@wanderingthewastes6159]

@@foolishmuleth6757 are you gonna beat around what I said or admit that Peterson brings much much more to thousands of people than “reactionary rhetoric”?

[@seankelly1291]

“False confidence masquerading as expertise.” Badass quote man. Kind of the quintessential patriarchal story of our time.

[@briancase6180]

That's one of the clues that someone is a narcissist. Jordan is a true narcissist. When he gets cornered, he rages.

[@mrknarf4438]

@@briancase6180 I've never seen JP raging, nor have I ever seen him cornered or not admitting a mistake.

[@mrknarf4438]

Also, a university professor, Master's degree and several decades of work as a clinical psychologist. If that isn't expertise, I don't know what is.

[@seankelly1291]

@@mrknarf4438 Look here, arhfgm ahmm, ahm. mr. jordan peterson is confrontational, and rude, and of xourse he never admits a mistake. But rge point if debate iw not to "win" but to find the truth. And in this way he proves himself to be not an intellectual at all. But instead just a simple minded man who will use logical falacies without explaining what they are. If he were a compassionate person he would educate us as to his tricks. Which are to take advantage of the process of logical falacies without revealing the game. And also withiut self irony, which is just humorless. He is simply a provoketor. A charlatan. Nothing more. His so called wisdom is tied to a failing time and place to which he can not offer any solutions. Just hate speach and misogyny. His idead are a lost cause. Plus, i absolutely hate Jordon f'ing peterson. And i am striving to be able to debate his ass personally. One day...

[@mrknarf4438]

@@seankelly1291 even assuming everything else you've said was true (quite hard to disprove, without analyzing every speech he's ever made), the fundamental thing you get wrong about him is that there is no hate speech and no misogyny in his words. He does not hate women. He does not hate anyone. I don't think you hate him, I think you hate an idea you've built of him without listening to his actual ideas.

[@rawalshadab3812]

*Insert token "you're taking Professor Jordan B. Christ out of context" comment

[@martinn.6082]

Oh yeah? Have you watched all his hundreds of hours of videos or all his books? No? Well, you can’t have an opinion on him, then. Anyway, I need to trash Marx without having read anything of his or about him which was not made by a right wing writer.

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

Martin Neumann ~Not every opinion is the same value though. If you criticise something you know nothing about, why should your opinion trump someone else’s who actually knows what they are talking about?

[@maxord11]

I mean...he is. A lot of these referenced videos are cut to make a point, even when something he says after the cuts states something completely different. Also there are a lot of absolutes he uses, even though Jordan merely suggests that they MIGHT play some part, which is interpreted by Thought Slime as "this is the reason."

[@theflufflyfluffy]

i have nothing important to say i am just commenting to drive engagement for the algorithm

[@seskatchewared2583]

same

[@Alienami]

I like to smoke weed when I play with algorithms.

[@coasterblocks3420]

I tried watching one of his videos about gender dysmorphia once. In the space of one sentence he name dropped a half dozen names of noted and unknown academics including Freud supposedly supporting his position but without so much as referencing even in the vaguest language what papers, passages or concepts the academics produced. Merely name dropping appeared to be all that was required and was more than sufficient in his mind to support his position without question. It was at that point that I realised his strategy is to bamboozle the listener and hope they would be so star-struck by his delivery (or too dizzy and exhausted to even keep pace) than seriously debate anything. Anyway, his ability to dazzle his audience by feeding their prejudice is effective as it was sufficiently convincing for Australian “comedian” Isaac Butterfield and his legion of mouth breathing fans, which is how I came across Peterson’s video on gender dysmorphia.

[@MintyCoolness]

considering the book, i think he also likes Jung.

[@Alchemistmerlin]

New York's hottest club is "Genesis and Descent" , it's got everything: Chaos, the Void, a dragon?, and The Precosmogonic Egg

[@Niklback1]

Best comment by far. Stefon would approve

[@fake5570]

I appreciate you making me laugh out loud during a video about Peterson. Thank you stranger

[@clairei299]

HAHAHAHA

[@michaelsurname8668]

Jordan Puncherson, battling feminine chaos with his patriarchal, meaty light. I also like that at 22:17 he worries that a yes/no question, one fundamental to his worldview, is "boxing me in".

[@danielhadley2481]

Was March the month when you punched that disabled person. Simple yes/no question totally not boxing you in. I don't like JBP either but please think through your criticism.

[@javierititin]

Considering how people don't listen to others who "are dumb enough to believe in God"...

[@jo1stormlord]

Daniel Hadley "No." With addition of "I didn't punch any disabled persons." . Is that so hard to say? Simple yes or no question, simple yes or no answer. If Peterson replied "Yes. I believe in God." and added " As far as I understand terms believe and God." that would have done the job.

[@enfercesttout]

No, march doesn't exist.

[@Fool_of_a_Toque]

W H Y D O Y O U M A K E Y O U R L I P S R E D ? ? I'm sorry, Jordy sounded so urgent in that moment, someone please give the man some answers 😂😂

[@bpalpha]

I thought there were other shades of lipstick? 🤔 . . . 😶

[@andreakoroknai1071]

@@bpalpha but don't tell Doc Peterson that ;)

[@aj7058]

My lips turn glitter during sexual arousal.

[@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321]

goth girls smirk, roll eyes and laugh dismissively while walking away.

[@frauleinfunf]

If my lips turned black or navy blue during sexual arousal, or even the bright red most women like in red lipsticks, I'm pretty sure I'd need to see a doctor

[@misskate3815]

Man, I never thought Peterson would get as big as he did. In 2016 we just thought he was an evil little nerd.

[@diddledeeye132]

Me too! LOL.

[@donniedarko4045]

lmao yeah, blame that to people who have same opinion as you, Miss Kate. all this mad and triggered people who think same as you about Peterson, Started bashing him, then public became more interested, googled and searched who was Jordan B.Peterson, then Public found his lectures.... and vast majority liked them. so Jordan just... became almost overnight sensation, very famous man. good. that's how Jordan Peterson became famous. pretty ironic, isn't it? thanks by the way, for introducing us to him.

[@hoagielamp6543]

@@donniedarko4045 This sounds the same as Gamergaters saying "Sarkeesian made us this way" LOL. You guys were already hateful, just needed academic jargon and weaselly language to make it more palatable to other people. Think about it, millions of people looked up (and enjoyed) someones work because they were being called transphobic according to you.

[@donniedarko4045]

@@hoagielamp6543 You shouldn't count me in your mentioned "hateful guys". I harbor no hate to any person or group of people. I just commented because I like some of Peterson's lectures about psychological issues, though I don't always agree with him on some things. Also, I spotted the irony of Jordan's hater/disliker being surprised that he became so popular, when in fact, Jordan's haters are the core reason why he is so popular. the reason you mentioned is just one of the following ones. But it certainly started with people offended by Peterson being so... loud. Peterson became highlight because some triggered people just wouldn't shut up about him. He was shown again and again, so of course many got interested in him. Like, someone you have never heard is shown so many times, after that, step by step, he becomes a largely controversial figure, it's natural to be interested in who he/she is right? Then, Peterson's interviews with Cathy Newman and Hellen Lewis happened, which absolutely gained him a massive following, since in both cases the majority thought Peterson was far more rational and cool-headed than Cathy or Hellen. Alongside with it, Jordan knew it was a suitable moment, so he wrote a book at that time and published it, Which finally created his image as Public Intellectual, and gained him more fans, or appreciators. So Yeah, no matter how someone tries to deny it, Had Peterson's haters not been so damn loud and triggered, offended about him, many people wouldn't even have heard of him, and he wouldn't be that popular now.

[@hoagielamp6543]

@@donniedarko4045 You agree he's a grifter then? His opinions since the supposedly useful lectures are ridiculous.

[@ericsmith4908]

Imagine if any ACTUAL scientists put diagrams like this in their paper or book. I get absolutely roasted when one of my diagrams includes color, much less some goddamn MS paint dragon scribbles

[@kuyarickkelley4719]

BUT ITS THE DRAGON OF CHAOS, ASHER. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE PATRIARCHY OF LIGHT WORKS GODDAMMIT?

[@fafofafin]

Years ago I saw a chromatogram that looked like the top of batman's mask and the authors called it "batman peak", and I still think about their bravery.

[@Clawdragoons]

Clearly those rules are in place to silence Jordan Peterson's freedom of speech specifically, because there is no other reason to institutionally exclude people who put clipart of dragons in their diagrams. We must fight back against this incursion on free speech, and we should do this by silencing the organizations which oppose us!

[@nilsqvis4337]

Tbqh you're incredibly skilled if you can draw a dragon like that in paint.

[@Alienami]

This thread made me laugh out loud. 🤘

[@Barry_Tone]

Note that when referring to them as "ruined", he doesn't call them "patients", but "clients".

[@sachinaraszkiewicz785]

This is the language usually used. 'Patient' is a word reserved for people hospitalized. Most mentally ill people are not. Having said that, Peterson sucks.

[@watcherwlc53]

in counseling we usually do say "clients" but JP is still weird

[@anotherangrymonkey7435]

😂😂😂Schooled by your own lefties.

[@Halokon]

AnotherAngry Monkey See, that’s the difference, we accept we can be wrong, and endeavour to learn what’s right, where the Right just claims they’re correct and shouts down anyone trying to say otherwise. For us, being schooled is a thing where you learn something, for you, it’s a thing to be laughed at, which should show you where you’re going wrong in a nutshell, but, again, learning is the enemy of conservatism.

[@georgeanthony4834]

@Cat Hill What have intellectuals ever done for the white working class of the U.K?They just promote their own class interests.

[@terminalglimmer]

> Tries to not be obscure > Literally builds off of Jung Nice lol couldn't have picked a more headass school of thought

[@fmafan123456789]

the fact that you used headass instead of some other descriptive term to debase Jungs school of thought makes me question the integrity of your comment. . . .

[@terminalglimmer]

@@fmafan123456789 There is a lot to like about Jung's work, and while I tend to not believe in a lot of the more esoteric stuff (the collective unconscious etc), I do think there is potential in his work with Cognitive Functions if you read them in light of more contemporary social psychology. If anything, bits of Jung's work also inform the research I'm doing with proxemics, although not as pronounced. When I say headass, I am specifically referring to the way he wrote much of his primary texts (at least the ones I've read), which do tend to be fairly convoluted.

[@jjjorp]

LACAN GANG

[@bongodave13]

@@UnrealPunk Does the left demean anything religious or esoteric? I'm reminded of the recent attacks on Ilhan Omar, and the numerous death threats she's received, as well as her rejection/abandonment by many mainstream Democrats in congress. Said Democrats are in no way "on the left."

[@francisbarrera9868]

Unreal Punk Jungian Leftist here. Cult of Aesthetics, cult of Dionysus.

[@eldrago19]

"We push and _then_ it becomes physical" I'd love to know how I can push someone without it being physical, is there like some sort of mental discipline that allows me to push someone with my mind? Maybe Peterson has discovered telekinesis.

[@nisjdhsi]

I think “getting physical” is Peterson’s way of saying he’s sexually aroused

[@vreaum]

@@nisjdhsi jfsjfagmskss

[@alisaurus4224]

Hadoken, bro

[@Wired_User]

I think he meant push as in pushing the issue or pushing the other into a corner. Either way, why the heck does he think an argument between men has to end in violence? Dude just talk out your issues and eat a vedgetable, JP.

[@pepi7404]

The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be ... unnatural.

[@discflame]

the idea in his first book is basically just something a drunk grad student would come up with after reading a summarized biography of carl jung

[@NotADuncon]

If Yung had online fan groups on reddit this would be it

[@kegsofvomitspit]

Nailed it

[@damiandziedzic6683]

really ? show us your work dude ?! :D

[@astrogypsy]

hey, it was crank and he was an undergrad- get it right. lol

[@NotADuncon]

@@damiandziedzic6683 200iq criticism of "you can't criticize someone unless you have 200iq works in the same field". You do realize that also means you can't praise him? Also it's not needed. You can compare his books to other people in his field. Hell buzzfeed has better writing

[@StefanSochinsky]

"Why do women wear makeup?" - Lemme answer your question there: Oddly enough, it was men that imposed the 'ideal' look of women in the workplace (think of the stereotypical secretary having been required to wear skirts, and makeup, and high heels, and etc). So, men imposed these requirements on women, and now, because these very same men can't keep their hands to themselves or feel they have to make sexual innuendos to these women, they're saying that these practices have to go? I just want to make sure I understand your argument: Women can't dress in a provocative manner because you can't control yourself?

[@WOJAus]

Are you saying women are wearing makeup at work because men force them to? Or that men want women to wear makeup so women feel obligated to wear it? Something like that? Women don't wear makeup at work (or in general) because they want to? Anyway, like almost every single comment on this video, yours completely misses/ignores the context of what was actually happening in the conversation (though to be fair, the video cuts out all context to push a very narrow view of the topic). Jordan Peterson doesn't think women shouldn't wear makeup at work. The only point he was making was that the current dynamic of men and women working together has not been properly/clinically examined. He uses the example of makeup and heels, not as an example of something he disagrees with, but as an example of things people don't actually address when it comes to the complicated relationships between men and women. He probably couldn't give a flying fk what women wear. He's brings up these examples to think about critically because he's annoyed that the Vice reporter does not seem to critically think about/examine anything.

[@StefanSochinsky]

​@@WOJAus Yes, men who are in charge frequently attempt to force women to be pretty for them and I do feel that many women feel obligated to oblige. I had a job a little less than 10 years ago in a restaurant. The owner of the facility walked up to one of the servers and asked her "Where's your make-up?" and then 'asked' her to go into the bathroom and put it on. There are many scenarios where the men who are in charge want the women around them to be gussied up. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't women who put on makeup and sexy clothes simply because they want to, because many women obviously do. In fact, this actually works into the point I'm making. Simply by asking ridiculous questions such as "Can men and women work together?" and following that up with "How do you know?" indicates hostility. He's not asking legitimate questions with an honest desire for an answer: He's implying that it isn't safe for men because he's afraid of being accused of sexual harassment. Here's a funny thing: If you don't want to be accused of sexual harassment, don't sexually harass women.

[@WOJAus]

@@StefanSochinsky Thanks for replying. Yeah I can see how something like that could be a bit distressing to you/some people. But to be fair, that's anecdotal, it happened 10 years ago, and I have zero context about the situation...so it's hard for me to change my general idea of the situation due to it. I'm sure you understand. And just the fact that it is not a black and white situation is exactly the point Peterson is making. The question was mostly hypothetical, it was being used as an exercise to try and get the Vice reporter to actually think. But of course the reported ignored that. Maybe that's a trap Peterson falls in too often - people are trying to lock him into an agenda or a position they think he's in (ie alt-right)...they can't understand that he doesn't have a position on the left or right, he's just trying to have a conversation and think through things. Watch the clips and you will see that it's always just the Vice reporter trying to steer the conversation to a political one and frame everything Peterson says in a political way. You'll see why Peterson becomes frustrated and struggles to stay civil. I really suggest you watch the entire unedited Vice interview that clip is from (Vice originally put up a heavily edited version that does basically the same thing as this video) and try to keep an open mind - or even try to keep in mind that Peterson is a clinical psychologist who has worked hard to help many women as well as men.

[@NinjaDoilyn]

@@WOJAus fam people who aren't bigots don't go on alt-right youtube world tours. i don't make the rules, that just how it be. if they do, find me one. only one.

[@WOJAus]

@@NinjaDoilyn Uhhh I assume you're insinuating Jordan Peterson is a bigot, and that he went on an 'alt-right youtube world tour'? If so, those are some hefty yet vague claims! Go ahead and prove he is a bigot first. Though if you're just going to link to some out of context, purposefully misleading content, or otherwise try to misconstrue his character, legit don't bother, it's a waste of everyone's time and makes the world a worse place.

[@Hakumeiun]

This Peterson guy talks very precise circles to precisely avoid ever addressing the damn point.

[@underworldent4817]

yep.

[@rainehappy7097]

All scammers do that. That's so they can sell you a product without actually telling you it's bad.

[@hardpack187]

@@rainehappy7097 Makes sense, if you listen

[@rainehappy7097]

@@hardpack187 pretentious though, don't you think?

[@hardpack187]

@@rainehappy7097 He just sounds like a nerd to me. Long winded, yes. Pretentious, I disagree. I suppose he could pepper his speech with "Like...um...right?...ummm..right?.if that makes sense? Like..ok, right?" so he could be more palatable to the "woke" crowd.

[@Arthurian_Rabbit]

The "matriarchal world of darkness", eh? Jordan...would you like to talk about your relationship with your mother?

[@mokc913]

damn, I just realized I don't know if I've ever heard him talk about his parents. I've genuinely wondered what his childhood was like to contribute to him being so hateful. I would not recommend looking into the dreams he had about his grandmother, though...dark indeed.

[@risky_busine55]

Guys like Peterson make my blood boil because they don't even consider the idea that they can possibly be wrong, there's no factual basis but they still think they always have a point because something sounds vaguely academic

[@3ertin]

Maybe you are wrong.

[@reitheist]

@@3ertin That theories should supported by evidence?

[@t.schramm1045]

Thats 99% of people

[@SchoolRumble4ever22]

@@CatFinder3000 Got 'em ...😑

[@revspikejonez]

@@CatFinder3000 you sound vaguely prepubescent

[@L0LWTF1337]

By Peterson's own admission he can only win an argument if he can punch his opponent.

[@barzinlotfabadi]

Man that is not a very good prognosis for a guy who's been eating nothing but protein and cartilage.

[@akorn9943]

Zizek wins by default, pure ideology

[@chinggiskhan6678]

@@akorn9943 I'm just imagining a shirtless Zizek screaming at the top of his lungs charging at Jordan Peterson and body slamming him.

[@alexwilliams5799]

As long as he doesn't get punched back. He would lose 10/10 times if the opponent hits back

[@manderly33]

He really doesn’t strike me as someone who has been in a ton of fights, but people can surprise you I guess. Maybe his psychology grad program was just one big fight club.

[@TheCODFA1LIUR3]

I remain unconvinced that Jordan Peterson has ever met a woman

[@anthonyalaia6810]

Dude I know its so weird, I've been a muay thai fighter for 11 years since i was 11 and the thought of violence never once crosses my mind when im having normal conversation with anyone. So I have no fucking clue what he's on, i feel like he just wants to beat women. Also the cringey way he tilts his head down when he says "and then he gets physical" shows hes never been in a fight in his life.

[@BrianFace182]

Mikhaela definitely faked that she's his daughter to scam him.

[@verager2493]

@@anthonyalaia6810 reminds me of that guy that scares cops with instructional videos for a living, to make them more jumpy and violent. Guy calls his shit killology, lapses poetic about "killing people for justice" and being a "holy warrior." He also talks about being in the military as credentials. And he was a fucking pencil pusher! Never been in combat! Admits that he's never killed anyone! Meanwhile most people who've seen combat that I've heard from are actually pretty chill. Most of the time, at least.

[@rainehappy7097]

@@anthonyalaia6810 MGTOW led to this. Also Twitter.

[@anthonyalaia6810]

@@verager2493 dude iknow exactly who you're referring to😂😂😂 and thats the perfect comparison. Bloody hilarious

[@argon65]

Recently I discovered my current therapist actually follows a lot of his ideas and I'm already asking myself if I should search for another one

[@atreyu12341234]

You definitely should get more than one because you obviously need them. Me on the other hand I managed to pull my act together by listening to Jordan. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there. You people on the other hand cant's stop complaining about him or others that don't share the same views as you even feel good about yourself when you do it, you feel righteous and brave but you've never done something meaningful that could help others.

[@namedhuman5870]

​@@atreyu12341234 JP's self help stuff is somewhat okay. A bit basic, but mostly okay. His actual beliefs are where he goes off the deep end. The man hasn't met someone with actual issues arising from the world where he cannot bamboozle the crowd with bs and then declare himself right. He is a shallow thinker for most subjects and when he is truely lost he just says "what do you mean by..." and lists some words from the question as if pendantry is a valid form of argument. He is Chicken Soup for the Soul at best and an oddly un-empathic man the rest of the time.

[@DCWilsonwriter]

Jordan Peterson's style of debate: Ask question, interrupt, interrupt again, ask a different question, interrupt, interrupt again. Repeat until the other side gives up.

[@lordsamich755]

This is how I know you've never watched a Jordan Peterson interview, which Though Slime or some similarly decrepit channel; hasn't pre-chewed and spat down your juvenile gullet.

[@DCWilsonwriter]

@@lordsamich755 This is how I know you're incapable of making an intelligent argument because you resort to childish insults.

[@lordsamich755]

@@DCWilsonwriter Is this your technique for pretending you made an intelligible argument? Pretending that you were insulted, when I've done nothing but accurately describe your behavior? Highlighted Reply... How cute, you've already got your little pat of the head for saying the right thing, to get attention from your, 'comrades'. Not that you've made a sensible argument. Not that you're actually informed in any meaningful way. Just that you agree, with your marvelous leader, while accusing JP fans of being a cult... WOW!

[@DCWilsonwriter]

@@lordsamich755 No, it's my technique for telling you aren't worth any more of my time. You have a nice life.

[@lordsamich755]

@@DCWilsonwriter Well your time is indeed very valuable. Far to valuable to actually watch the content you pretend to criticize.

[@wexpyke]

"don't let your children do anything that would make you dislike them" my children will NOT be allowed to watch or talk about british tv shows

[@greensheen8759]

I've always found that to be a weird rule. Especially when he gives the context of a parent getting so frustrated with a child that they literally murder them. Like.... bruh that escalated quickly O.o

[@kkounal974]

Tbh that's pretty much tyranny right there. It assumes the parent can't be wrong, can't have biases, is morally unquestionable. It's the fantasy of the ideal leader who newsflash doesn't exist. If you ask me it's more harmful to society that helpful.

[@suckieduckie]

@@kkounal974 yea sure, let your kids do things that you think are wrong. Let them lie and cheat, that seems like a good strategy for them to grow up and be good people. Or you could try and teach your kids to be good people ergo: don't make them do things that will make you dislike them. Why isn't the rule "don't make your kids do anything that makes ANYONE dislike them"? because that's impossible as liking or disliking something is subjective and you can't please everyone.

[@kkounal974]

@@suckieduckie You are assuming whatever the parent likes is what is moral. Sadly no, as i pointed out that's not always the case for every parent and thus this advice is obvious at best and harmful at worse (in cases that what the parent wants isn't moral). It also shifts from appeal to morality to appeal to authority, that's the message it sends. It's not about the greater good, a better world or coexistence, it's about what the parent wants, what the authority wants, what the guardian wants. That's what's important. What happens if that authority is corrupt or later in life some other authority is? Why teach kids these kind of authority-servant dynamics when they are historically so extremely likely to lead to abuse? Kids imitate parenting styles as well. They will proliferate it. Unconscious or not the way the message is sent matters because it changes the message. All this may seem a little hyperbolic to you but JP is a phycologist, he should or does know how language affects people. So why does he uses it like that, why is his phrasing so bad when the message he is trying to send (teach kids to be moral) is so simplistic and intuitive. Like just why?

[@suckieduckie]

@@kkounal974 I think you are getting cause and effect wrong here mate. Parents should take responsibility for their children. That manifests by raising the children in such a way that they do as much good, because if they do something bad that's on you as a parent. Btw the entire concept of parenting assumes that the parents know what's right. Every parent tries to do their best which is directly linked to their own moral framework. "It also shifts from appeal to morality to appeal to authority, that's the message it sends. It's not about the greater good, a better world or coexistence, it's about what the parent wants, what the authority wants, what the guardian wants." JBP argues that it's the parent's job to make sure the children are properly socialized so that thay can make the world a better place, to live for the greater good and to shoulder responsibility. This is in no way a authority servant relationship, but much more a teacher student. I'm only assuming that the parents THINK that what they think is moral. If they thought something to be immoral, why would they do it in the first place?

[@arisily]

I'm going to change my name to Dragon of Chaos

[@Specopleader]

Patriarchal Lobster of Ordered Chaos

[@emmathestonedspider8676]

That's going to be my name if I transition

[@glowstoneframe7741]

Queercore Central Alternatively, make it your answer if people ask for your birth name.

[@KP-ov3mg]

It is truly amazing to me that some men sincerely believe we dress for them. I dress for well and do makeup for a variety of reasons. The bottom of that list is to look cute to men. I do it because the world treats me better. Even those who aren't attracted to women are kinder to me and offer more opportunities. I also just feel more confident when I don't feel ugly. It's all very basic and obvious to anyone who is coming from a sincere and well intentioned place.

[@colinmignot6309]

I disagree perhaps I'm clueless but I feel I am sincere The world treats you better precisely because you look cuter, regardless of people's sex or sexual orientation. You feel more confident because you have learned that being cuter grants recognition and social status. This is what makes you feel more confident, acceptance by other. You don't feel confident and therefore people treat you better, the world treats you better and therefore you feel confident. Which is why women wear makeup, not because they find themselves cute but because feeling cute grants social status, because it's pleasing to the eye of other people.

[@colinmignot6309]

What is the world if not men and women. You dress well to look more attractive which in turn makes you confident, but attractive to who ? Everyone I guess, man women gay man and gay women, but not alike. If you are a heterosexual women it is obvious that being attractive to heterosexual men sex gives you more confidence than being attractive to gay men or heterosexual women, because they are the type of people with whom you want to have sex with. And so the acceptance by heterosexual man that is given to you when you wear makeup is of a greater value than the acceptance of gay man say. Meaning it plays a bigger role in you deciding to wear make up. If we agree that women wear makeup because the world treats them better when they do so, it is only fair to say that heterosexual women are driven to wear makeup mainly so that heterosexual men treats them better, because we want to reproduce. I understand women nowadays are prone to deny they do stuff to please man because patriarchy etc. but it doesn't look sincere to me

[@colinmignot6309]

​@edgar allan hoe The reason why you feel like dressing up is "self-validating" is because other people validate you when you dress up and you have learned that every time you dressed up, and so dressing up again in the future will grant you validation by others, external validation dictates what "looking" put together/dressed up is and is not. Nothing wrong with that at all, on the contrary it sane, I myself work out because I know women like toned bodies, and it makes me feel more confident knowing she'll like it when I undress. And so when I see my 6 pack in the mirror it's not good looking in and of itself, it is good looking because others find it good looking. And that is the only reason why good looking things look good.

[@colinmignot6309]

@edgar allan hoe ​Having your shit together facilitates sex and breeding, hence why we do it. You might be more driven by status and while status facilitates sex it's also an end in itself. We are motivated by hunger status and sex, again I think it's perfectly sane and I find it cute how people are candidly rejecting their deepest needs or desires and masking their motivations because we're told it equates being superficial or something. In the end what matters is that we feel good about how we look

[@colinmignot6309]

@edgar allan hoe Can you point to a specific example ? Westerners as well do not conflate sexy dressing with status dressing. I do believe everything we do is driven by basic instincts, I believe sex is the primary one. This is as old as Freud if not way older, it's not a theory from modern day academics

[@annaarkless5822]

i screamed at the top of my lungs when peterson said "they turn red during sexual arousal" i post this comment to apologise to everyone awaken by my screech

[@pseudonamed]

Yes, just like a woman's eyes become framed by smudged darkness when aroused, and her lids start to shimmer when aroused and... oh wait.. I guess eyeliner and eye shadow aren't sexual. Hhhmm could it be that makeup is actually about simply exaggerating features rather than imitating arousal? Perhaps?

[@suckieduckie]

@@pseudonamed "simply exaggerating features"... The ones that men find attractive... as a form of sexual signalling... It's very clear what make-up and high heels do for a woman's appearance. It's not bad, it's not anyone's fault, but it is sexual signalling. What's wrong with simply pointing that out? What's wrong with asking what sort of rules we might want for that in workplace if companies like NBC have already banned hugging and eye contact for longer than 5 seconds (no joke).

[@noviatoria2436]

@@suckieduckie Consider that it just might be possible that women do things for reasons other than sexually signaling to men. Consider maybe women use makeup, clothing, and other elements of our personal appearance as a form of personal expression, for our own benefit, rather than to signal sexual availability. Consider that viewing the behavior of women exclusively through the lens of sex is actually pretty disgusting.

[@suckieduckie]

@@noviatoria2436 No one ever said exclusively, it's more of an inevitable byproduct in my opinion rather than a conscious intention. No one also said sexual availability, just sexual signalling. You are attacking a strawmen of the argument, not the actual argument.

[@augustaseptemberova5664]

@@suckieduckie 1) Peterson didn't call it "sexual signalling" .. he called it sexual provocation (implying intent), which according to him shouldn't be allowed in work places. 2) "What is wrong with simply pointing [sexual signalling] out?" It's a completely redundant thing to point out. _Any_ aspect of human appearance can be construed as sexual signalling, _regardless_ of gender .. From personal grooming & hygiene signalling "I'd be a healthy sexual partner" to wearing ties, jewelry etc. signalling "I'd be a wealthy / socially secured sexual partner". 3) What does singling out make-up in that context accomplish? In Jordan's case it's about creating straw-women, accusing them of doing something with intent, which in fact is a universally human thing to do - and not necessarily with intent.

[@snowballeffect7812]

Jordon B. Peterson: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY CHRIST?"

[@bdf2718]

That depends what you mean by "mean." Watch 2,856,129 hours of Peterson videos to figure out what he means by "mean."

[@ectosquid]

Thanks for going into his ridiculous maps of meaning garbage. A lot of people say that his academic stuff is generally fine, but his whacky assertions go beyond psychology into a metaphysical shared mind theory of strange and unscientific cuckoo bananas craziness.

[@Torthrodhel]

Cuckoo bananas... bananas that kill other queen bananas and trick their workers into raising their brood instead.

[@stellabee2026]

based on those charts, i gotta say, new agers are better at stacking random motifs of completely separate mythologies on top of each other than he is

[@cammro]

what the fuck planet are those diagrams

[@xSTEVENx286x]

actually popular science today runs on false metaphysics. not saying peterson is correct but a shared mind theory is less wrong than materialism which is literal nonsense.

[@ectosquid]

@@xSTEVENx286x ?? First, popular science is empirical science and is based solely on empiricism. To be considered real, it must be measurable or mathematically sound and demonstrably valid. Science can't be "false" because science is only a method for evaluating what is likely true based on gathering data. If new data contradicts an existing consensus of what is true, that is science at work, and new tests must be performed to help determine greater understanding. Metaphysics may progress new ways to test, measure, or model what is material, and may be postulated when formulating a hypothesis, but metaphysics don't make up science. Something can no longer be considered metaphysical if it's empirically measured or proven. In what way could an unsubstantiated metaphysical postulation such as humans existing as literal embodiments of mythological archetypes due to an unmeasurable inherent predisposition be considered more valid than a materialist approach in which we can only state something is true if it is proven to exist?

[@buubaku]

I feel like someone read peterson's book and told him "needs more dragons". And jp took that criticism seriously

[@teylawhite687]

I’m so glad that the worst pain this one dude ever needed to feel was when he realized people don’t like it when you’re racist and sexist

[@paavohirn3728]

If that was indeed more painful than his trip down the rabbit hole of psychiatric medications, addiction and what seems to have been psychosis then i guess it must have been painful indeed.

[@Nintendrew]

One of my new favorite channels. Peterson makes my blood boil sometimes haha. Cheers!

[@ThoughtSlime]

Whoa! Always great to see someone who runs a channel I like find me out of nowhere!

[@addisonalbert9078]

why is there no discussion of marxist theory on nintendrew

[@dew7555]

But Drew, if we sieze the means of production, how will manufacturers create artificial scarcity? Your game collection will only have personal value to you, and not exterior market value! In all seriousness, you guys should do a collab! With all of Nintendo's shady business practices and anti-consumer mindset, there are a lot of gamers angry with corporations right now. I think right now in particular after the "death of mario" Drew's audience is primed for that kind of video.

[@HunterLyonIsAPerson]

Every day I grow to resent Jung just a little bit more.

[@ILoveAnime1121]

"Jordan Peterson isn't alt right, he doesn't call himself one." Right, and North Korea isn't a dictatorship because they don't call themselves one.

[@gaiusjuliuspleaser]

These people must get really confused when they hear about titmice.

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

He does an awful lot of preaching against fascism and authoritarianism for an altrighter.

[@ILoveAnime1121]

@@TheNightWatcher1385 Alt Right refers to any right wing fringe ideas, like the ones that Dr. Peterson touts

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

Morgan P No, altright means ethnonationalist. Which he certainly isn’t.

[@ILoveAnime1121]

@@TheNightWatcher1385 Ethninationalism is one facet of the Alt Right, not the only one. Alt Right is an umbrella term, as I said, for any right wing fringe ideas. This includes extreme views of gender norms