The Walking Dead's Ending Is Bad And I've Wasted My Life

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0:00 Intro
1:53 The Ending Lacks Closure
8:15 Rosita's Death Was Poorly Executed
14:09 The Pacing Is Horrendous
20:37 Too Much FTWD-like Dialogue
26:10 Lydia Surviving Is Weird
27:39 Why Did Pamela Keep The Gates Closed?
29:01 Goodbye Jules & Luke
29:33 Other Characters MIA
30:19 Some Things I Actually Liked
31:56 Conclusion & Moving On From TWD Content

[@uspresdientcentral]

I'm not sure if I'm in the minority but I think Rosita's fall and jump to the building, it would have been the most hilarious moment in the franchise if she just fell a second time.

[@zacmccollum7144]

No, that would be fuckin funny lol

[@sunvinn]

"ROOSIITAAAAAA..." "Oh, she's alive! Come on come on..." "ROOSIITAAAAAA..."

[@jasondylan12345]

@@dazinqwilly3385 It’d be pretty funny, considering when Rosita died it was the least emotional death in the show by far

[@Crystal-lp4gc]

Bloody love Rosita but yeah that would be so funny!

[@zacmccollum7144]

@@jasondylan12345 right?? Luke's death was more sad, and I don't even like him!

[@VIO__]

The biggest crime of this season was 8 episodes dealing with the damn Reapers at the start. That entire storyline feels like a fever dream and wasted so much time.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

100%. S11 was so weirdly paced, I mean we get an entire episode dedicated to the mystery of Eugene's fake GF, which admittedly is an episode I liked, but it's hard not to feel like a lot of time was wasted this season when you look at how rushed 11C was. I mean the Eugene court scene in episode 22 was terrible, I expected an episode of court drama, but we got like 5 minutes in court with some awful dialogue, yet the show had time for 8 episodes about the repears 🤷‍♂

[@tobyslater2011]

@@HeyJoshyJosh Tbf, I don't want to watch Court drama in an Apocalypse-survival tv

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

@@tobyslater2011 I get that, but the court case was supposed to be a big event yet we hardly saw any of it, which happens to a lot of plot points this season.

[@TheTaekwondoAcolyte]

@@tobyslater2011 well that and you gotta understand that that’s the whole point of our characters entering the Commonwealth, they have to experience what it’s like to live in a society with rules again.

[@ridensroom6957]

Agreed. That was time that should have been used on the rick and crm story. 24 episodes was a lot but ideal to merge the rick film/series i to the main show. But no, what a waste

[@ryanelliott71698]

What sucks about Luke’s death is the writers could’ve killed ANYONE from Magna’s group, yet kills the guy who had literally nearly 0 screen time in season 11. They then make it seem like a big death, yet for those like me who lost interest in Luke after he didn’t show up for nearly he entirety of season 11, really didn’t care for his death. Honestly in hindsight, he should’ve got piked back in season 9. At least then he would’ve went out on a high note

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

I agree, Luke should've died in Season 9. It felt like TWD was too scared to kill off a lot of the characters in the finale just in case they need to use them in future spin-offs. As much as I liked Connie, I think her dying in the finale would have given Daryl a great reason for wanting to run away.

[@azusitajr5501]

Ngl i thought he died in season 9 and when he showed up again i frigging screamt

[@damonlongstreet8630]

That how he died in the comic and why Magnas group wanted to fight the whisperers. 100% to scare to kill him.

[@ryanelliott71698]

@@HeyJoshyJosh I was initially excited to see him survive his comic death back in season 9. But when season 10 rolled around, it was clear he was going to become a background character. The side effect of Angela Kang not killing off really anybody in seasons 10 and 11 is that it created a FTWD problem where there’s too many characters which results in some getting shafted in screen time. Especially minor characters like Scott, Kal, and Eduardo get no screen time after their initial introductions

[@FreshZCORD]

The acting for the reaction to his death was great though really realistic

[@Wasted_AF]

When Rosita fell into the horde of walkers, I was convinced she was dead. Like, I couldn’t believe for a second the show would get her out of that situation for a second. Unfortunately I hadn’t realized Rosita is actually a video game character, activating her parry to escape a PILE OF ZOMBIES ON TOP OF HER! And all she got from that was a single bite??? Yeah, sure. If she was a less important or a no name character we would’ve seen her face get ripped off. The definition of plot armor and it killed all tension the episode had

[@drewwhiting]

That just got me thinking, to me it seems like the gore was toned down a lot post season 3/4, in season 2 we saw a guy get part of his nose and lips ripped of by a walker, sure Glenn amd Abe's deaths were in similar gory circumstances but seasons 1, 2 amd perhaps 3 were the goriest seasons on the show.

[@user-ch1qv4qk4z]

for me, that moment wasnt even the suprise moment they tried to do, because she fell with the baby so knowing our movie culture, i knew it was basically impossible that they'd have her be ripped apart together with the baby.

[@FreshZCORD]

True but the moment still was awesome

[@shadewolf0075]

This is the same show that had Glenn escape the exact same scenario by crawling underneath a dumpster while that idea completely failed when rick hid under a tank. I mean you mean to tell me no zombie saw him underneath it? I mean lord above it was only by the grace of god Glenn lived in that scenario

[@meast7485]

@@shadewolf0075 It's because the walkers were more intelligent then, the kind of retconned some stuff just to bring it back later as variants.

[@cmd31220]

The sad thing is that the show had several great points where it could have ended and gone off on a high note. When the gates open at Alexandria for the first time, when they defeat Neegan, when Rick or Carl dies, or even the comic book end where the massive time jump happens. But instead they "end" it by essentially changing the title and starting a new show to continue the narrative and make more money.

[@rubenabajyan4126]

The season 8 finale definitely feels like an ending

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

@@rubenabajyan4126 To me, that's the end. Carl's death works a lot better if we leave off with Rick living and carrying out his vision for the future.

[@HistoryandReviews]

*Lose more money. The show hasnt been profitable for years

[@dazinqwilly3385]

@PC he said he wished it was the end, not that it is the end. He already knows. Also AMC is still a cash grab, don’t forget. They are obviously continuing the story for money, not for the fans!

[@dazinqwilly3385]

@@HistoryandReviews that’s why AMC is continuing the story.

[@TsubasaAnimations]

I feel the same way about Daryl. The character works best in small doses as a cool supporting character, not a main. I don't know what more they could do with him.

[@hazzawilliams2956]

Send him to france apparently

[@dylanburton4955]

I think this is a good chance for Norman Reedus to really step up and be given more to do which the show just didn't have time to do. Norman Reedus is a great actor and I think he's more then capable of it

[@Kalakeiko]

​@@dylanburton4955 I agree, although he did get a lot of screentime and great moments in season 9-11 after he was made the lead when Rick left in my opinion.

[@msvalentine1902]

It reminds me of Friends, when they tried to make a Joey spin off and nobody cared about it. In the group he was loved, but by himself, not so much - so it got canceled

[@shaunpaulsen7960]

This comment didn't age will. DD was great!!

[@jasondylan12345]

Rosita being the big death in the finale was hilarious, it was a rushed, poorly done finale and the ending was just set up to the spin offs, it was awful

[@mullaoslo]

that luke was supposed to be one was even worse,. i was laughing while the characters where sobbing... that reactions should have been saved for a character on Carols level

[@jasondylan12345]

@@mullaoslo Honestly, and the way AMC released the episodes were incredibly scummy with the whole AMC+ users getting it a whole week earlier than everyone else, just shows how much they’re trying to milk out of this dead cow

[@TvConfusionn]

@@jasondylan12345I just found the episodes for free online

[@mullaoslo]

@@TvConfusionn why does someone always comment this... Bro we ALL Know pirating exsist.. We are talking about legal ways like adults.. Youh are not special becuase you figured out pirating exist

[@jasondylan12345]

@@TvConfusionn Many people did because of AMC's idiotic way of releasing the episodes

[@zacmccollum7144]

I completely agree with Rosita's death. It really was stupid, and it looked lame as fuck, and it would have been more impactful if they tore her apart. I would have had a more emotional reaction if she died brutally, instead of all peacefully and smiling like she did. It all looked and felt LAME AF! I felt nothing for her..didn't even care after that. I mean, Luke's death hurt my feelings more, and I don't give a fuck about him! Lmao

[@Nurse_Shelly44]

I also think Rositas death would've had more of an impact if she was utilized better since her introduction on the show.

[@zainali-lm4zr]

Or the pipe slowly starts breaking, maybe because it's being pulled by the zombies, and she has no choice but to hand over the baby, just before she falls to the tragic end

[@TheNickSweat]

I'm so glad there's at least one TWD KZbinr that constantly reminds the viewers of how much Gimple/AMC fucked over FEAR with the crossover in season 4. Thanks dude!

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

I'll never get over what happened to Fear :( S3 was genuinely one of my favourite TV seasons of any show

[@blakelandry9313]

Fear already sucked during season one I couldn’t even get into it because they had no likable characters

[@dazinqwilly3385]

@@blakelandry9313 fr

[@LUCKO2022]

Fear sucked from minute one. It just keeps getting worse. So glad Season i ends that crap.

[@KovoriaTheConquerer]

@@LUCKO2022eh. It wasn’t what people wanted, but it improved and the world-building was fantastic. Season 3 is arguably the best season in the TWD franchise to this day.

[@Tengokuchi]

When Rosita force pushed all the zombies away I literally laughed out loud. Way to destroy all the tension.

[@imjoker2823]

Luke got Allen's comic book death Rosita got Andrea's comic book death Pamela got Sebastian's comic book ending Lydia got bit and loses an arm just how Connie did in the comics

[@HistoryandReviews]

Rosita did not lol. Andrea didnt go super saiyan trying to CHEESILY save a baby

[@dazinqwilly3385]

@@HistoryandReviews Andrea hid the bit until the end just like Rosita so she actually did.

[@nWeWrestling]

Except Rosita died at the end of the show and Andrea died at the end of the whisperer war

[@dazinqwilly3385]

@@nWeWrestling still, it is super similar so she did get Andrea’s death either way (although like you said, not at the same time).

[@nWeWrestling]

@@dazinqwilly3385 you’re contradicting yourself it’s not the same thing whatsoever Rosita didn’t even hide it literally her very next scene she showed Eugene she didn’t hide it whatsoever where as andrea did she obviously just had no time to say anything when she almost just had her baby die in her arms and she was still surrounded by walkers

[@imjoker2823]

8:29 Hey at least her wanting to leave the show permanently didn't result in her getting shot by an annoying kid😂

[@bishbosh4815]

The irony is that TWD franchise really feels like a zombie now. It's dead and soulless but it just keeps moving, an empty shell of its old self, relentless and insatiable, much like the fans who still feed off whatever TWD shits out

[@cchester543]

I’ve never missed an episode of TWD and love the show. The ending didn’t quite sit right with me for reasons I couldn’t articulate but you did it beautifully. Glad you’re back. I was concerned.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Thank you :)

[@cohen8817]

I don’t know if your going to mention it as I’m only 5 mins in, but the original ending was Judith+RJ and a few other of the kids (e.g Gracie) as adults, going around helping people. But it was pulled at the last minute

[@ryanelliott71698]

I’m actually mixed on the episode. It’s enough, but dear god there’s some dumb shit. Like the non ending, Rosita somehow pushing several walkers on her back with one push, still no feeling the commonwealth is a community of 50,000 people, how easily the horde is destroyed, Jules and Luke dying, Carol’s lacklustre ending, super push Judith.

[@the3strangersunknown]

Glad we never got that ending because if we did it would end up being another Fear The Walking Dead Season 5 in another spin-off

[@tylerstevens1618]

I viewed the deaths in the last episode as “If you want to exit the franchise now is your chance”.

[@jpryce90]

Yeh Judith coming in with that boss girl power while Carl gets shot and in a coma for a week

[@ann-mariebusby8369]

This franchise is gonna lose a lot of viewers like me…because “they don’t care about us” 😩 Nothing makes any sense anymore. Michonne leaving her 2 young kids to look for Rick in an apocalypse, not knowing if he’s even alive…🙄🙄

[@cherryblossom7120]

What was the point of their two kids if they gonna leave them to be babysat by other people.🙄

[@ridensroom6957]

Great to see you again. And yes that was a disappointing one. My major issue was the smart zombie idea. Its been over ten years. It is way too late to introduce such a huge change.

[@gwan2802]

Exactly.

[@ridensroom6957]

And hell yes. Better Call Saul was exactly how to wrap up a show.

[@SonnyBLightSun]

For Season 11, it all starts with season 2 when the AMC Executives fired Frank Darabont. They wanted double the episodes but slash the budget consequently the story then suffered, they cheated him from his pay check. If frank had the power and the executives never acted on stupidity and just gave frank the budget he needed then TWD as a whole would be so much different. Season 2 would have started with a solo episode with Sam Witwer as the soldier in the Tank with Rick. It would have followed him as we witnessed how Atlanta fell and showed some of what the military was doing in the beginning of the Apocalypse. And as the seasons went on the Walkers would have slowed gone through evolution beginning from the little girl teddy bear walker, the fence climber walkers and the rock window walker. In fact every season would have started with a solo episode following someone in the military or who was part of the government during or after the fall. Crucially season 2 and onwards would have had only about 10 episodes or less a season which would have helped in making the writing and storytelling more balanced and even Cinematic feeling like in Season 1. Season 3 presumably would have introduced and ended the Governor arc in the same season with the final being the destruction of the prison. Season 4 would have presumably then been the group survivoring in the wild up until Terminus where they are put in the train cart but then escape to end up outside of Alexandria. Presumably Frank would had the twd story feel more grand then what we saw in the original show. Season 5 probably began with then being back a pre Apocalypse community with these version of Alexandria being grander like in the comic where there was a lot more people. The season would have ended with no way out defeating the walkers. Season 6 would have been the introduction of Hilltop and the savoir killings before then ending the season with Negan killing Glenn (and perhaps Abraham). Season 7 would begin and end the Negan/Savoir Arc with Negan being jailed in the final. Carl survives. Season 8 Begins with a few episodes with Rick but then is Captured by the CRM. (In real life Andrew Lincoln wanted to spend more time with his family so Rick leaves was probably going to happen no matter what) Carl then becames the new lead. And The season begins and ends the Whispers arc. Season 9 starts and ends the Commonwealth arc. And sense Rick left the show Season 10 will be Rick finding the group again and Fighting the CRM. Keep in mind with this version of the show not wasting so much time like in the original it's possible that TWD would have finished filming before the Covid Pandemic meaning we would have seen The Commonwealth's 50,000 people deployed with the Football game and other establishing shoots. Truly believe TWD was held back from Greatness due to Frank's Firing from the AMC Executives and there greedy penny pinching nature. I am likely assuming a lot but over the point is TWD would have better if it had this structure.

[@anunknownentity1637]

I think you're assuming too much, many of these storylines aren't from the comics but were TV show exclusives that Darabont didn't come up with and therefore wouldn't have happened. I liked Season 1 but I'm in the minority that is glad Darabont was fired because his vision for the show was extraordinarily different and wouldn't have followed the comics as much.

[@HA5HGrimes]

I think up to Season 3 is pretty accurate but after that it all falls apart, the problem was darabount wanted to make twd a lot shorter than it ended up becoming up to maybe season 4-5 then just ending the show, which amc was not ok with, I wish we could see an alternative future where frank actually was showrunmer

[@TvConfusionn]

You mean Carl not carol

[@dazinqwilly3385]

In my opinion, I like how the Walking Dead done some of their timelines (the events is another story of course). Only things that should’ve been changed is that the Negan Arc should’ve been done in Season 7, Season 8 should’ve been the Whispers and Season 9 is the Commonwealth, making that season also before Coronavirus.

[@dazinqwilly3385]

@@anunknownentity1637 I do see your point, and I was fine with Darabon’ts firing as he was making the Walking Dead feel less unique than it actually was. However, after he left the show had done many bad story telling.

[@DeerryteTV]

I felt the same way about the ending, if not worse, and I also even went on reddit threads after and seen someone say "It was everything I could have hoped for!" I hated it so damn much, it ruined the entirety of the show for me. I never want to watch another episode, not even of the earlier seasons. All because it all lead to nothing. I don't care about the spin-offs or any end they could offer, a show going on for 4 seasons, let alone 11, should have an obligation to give an ending at the finale. And I went in with low expectations and somehow AMC challenged those and went even lower. For me the entire latter half of the episode felt like a dumb ad for the spin-offs, not just the actual ad, since you have really awkward dialogue of characters saying "Oh there's more to this world, lets leave everything for a spin-off" basically. Not to mention throughout the time with Judith, you have Daryl saying "Nah I won't leave" over and over EVEN in the last episode, then he's just like, "Bye" and drives off??? The one thing she didn't want to happen, just happens, and that's seen as a happy ending???? ???????? NOT TO MENTION WITH NO LEADS OF WHERE RICK AND MICHONNE ARE?????????????????? I already know too the Rick and Michonne spin-off isn't going to be good, let alone make sense. Since even after announcing the Rick movies, they still had to answer to why Rick would never go back to his family. And I can't believe in any singular way on why, or even how the CRM would keep Rick there. The only real answer, is they know he's the main character, and the CRM are huge Walking Dead collectors who want to keep Rick for their collection. And I also really enjoyed the comic ending, there were a few things I obviously wanted a few answers to still. But oh well, the rest of it I enjoyed and I get to imagine where those loose ends go. But with this show, I was hoping to get a few more answers given the runtime is much longer, they could have really expanded upon it like the show WAS doing with nearly everything else. And I don't mean the bad overextending from season 5 and onwards. (Season 5 being the Beth stuff, that lead to literally nothing, not even Noah getting away since he just dies a few episodes later?? And somehow "Still" is considered the worst episode by most people? They had an entire storyline lead to literally less than nothing for multiple episodes with the hospital shit! We spend an entire episode with Beth in that place now knowing it leads to nothing but "Still" is worse??? At least that episode we had Daryl, a slightly likable character and It's not as painful to sit through especially on re-watches, the hospital episode is just Beth being tortured and in the end leads nowhere, not even for Noah who just dies anyway.) But with this, like you mentioned, we don't get anything. We don't even get to see Pamela in her sell suffering after the time skip unlike the comics with Sebastian which I don't think anyone mentioned, she's just forgotten. (Not that the time skip was worth it anyway) Everything was just left open, and knowing AMC there's gonna be more spin-offs, even more than they announced with all the characters they can get. And if Rosita thought she was safe by dying OHHH boy prequel Rosita spin-off time! Overall the spin-offs plagued the show, you knew what characters were gonna live ahead of time, no surprises. And because AMC, they even ruined the finale beyond that, beyond all recognition. An ending that we all hoped would be worth all the dumb bullshit they did/pulled throughout the show. We didn't even get to say "Well the show has these really dumb unbelievable moments, but at least it had a good ending!" But nope. Now all that's left is a bunch of spin-offs that are very clearly gonna be awful given season 4 onwards Fear, and this mess of the main show that seems even worse overall given this season and ending. I think Mercer was speaking for the writing team when he said "Time to fuck shit up." Otherwise I don't know what that was referring too, given he didn't really do anything after saying that. Overall fuck AMC. Fuck them for everything they have done just for money since the budget cuts after season 1, and fuck them for wasting everyone's time and money. The only good thing to come out of the show was a bunch of the actors/actresses performances, since without them, if everyone had Fear season 4 onwards acting, the show would have failed long ago. Now thinking on it, they were too good, it's all their fault for keeping us entertained and hopeful on an AMC product.

[@imjoker2823]

Despite the ending (even though it's not the end), we can all agree that it was a hell of a lot better than the Game of Thrones ending.

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

At least the GOT ending inspired hate and united a community. This was sad and apathetic.

[@dazinqwilly3385]

@A Unique Sense of Something bro he’s telling the truth. Ain’t gotta be toxic, just chill!

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

@A Unique Sense of Something I'm saying that experiencing emotion, even hate, is better than experiencing boredom.

[@anunknownentity1637]

@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 but if we're talking about the fandom as a whole (which you were) then it's a collective experience of excitement, not boredom. No offense but people like you and Josh are the outliers and he even admits this in the video.

[@III_Ed_B_III]

It really wasn't.

[@ryanmclellan8740]

Good to see you back man! I didn't hate the finale, but it's just hard for me to feel like it's an actual ending when we still have Fear, and 3 other spinoffs coming up.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Exactly!

[@Tony35700]

Nice point.

[@dazinqwilly3385]

The whole universe should probably be done for after the spinoffs (with the exception of Fear that shouldn’t even have an 8th season, hopefully they cancel it!)

[@Rutgerpadberg]

Thanks for the last couple of years for making twd content!

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

thank you for watching!

[@kennet7837]

I acknowledge there are a lot of things they could have done better with this "ending", especially with regards to pacing, but overall I still enjoyed watching it. The moment when "Landslide" by Fleetwood Mac started playing was touching. As for the spin-offs, I think the Maggie and Negan one is completely unnecessary, even though I like these characters. Daryl going to France is a weird choice, but then again, it's nice to see the TWD universe move outside America for once. They better explain how he gets across the Atlantic in the first place. With that said, the Rick and Michonne story is the only one I'm excited for. If we don't get a Rick, Michonne and Judith reunion at the end, I'll be very disappointed.

[@lewisthellama2569]

I came for your TWD stuff but I’ll be staying for your content, I’m glad you’re moving on if the franchise is not doing anything for you anymore. I’m looking forward to seeing content in the future about random shows you’ve watched in your spare time that have more positive talking points. I didn’t mind the finale, but I can understand it’s failures. Personally I was just happy to see it end as it was a long time coming.

[@lewisthellama2569]

RE: Spin-offs, I will probably tune in to the Rick and Michonne show just because I need Rick closure. Although that’s optimistic considering what they define as closure as evidenced by the season finale of TWD 😬 Either way, I’ll be able to see Andy and Danai’s beautiful faces again, so not a complete loss if it’s subpar.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Thanks Lewis :)

[@stevendelaney8140]

AMCs fingerprints have been all over seasons 10C and all of 11 and it really showed. It was obvious to me that season 11 was already in the final stages when AMC told them to wrap it up with 8 extra eps. The pacing was FTWD level atrocious. Slow and then rush, rush to the finish line with little commonwealth worldbuilding development. The budget is also what looks like an all time low. TWD biggest problem is AMC, followed by the yes-man Gimple. 100% agree with everything you said. None of the spin-offs have been good. Meh to absolutely unwatchable. I have zero faith it will change. To think how amazing this series started with how it ended???? is embarrassing.

[@damonlongstreet8630]

It really is difficult to tell when a stupid decision was Gimple or coked up Amc suits. Carl was 100% Amc, Gimple took the blame and got a promotion out of it.

[@stevendelaney8140]

@@damonlongstreet8630 Agree. That's why Gimple was promoted, he protects AMC from the dumb decisions. He is a yes man.

[@sillysnail4325]

I’m incredibly disappointed in where the show has gone and the decisions that were made. I’ve been watching since the beginning, Sunday nights used to be a big deal in my house, waiting for 9 so I could watch with my family. But TWD has overstayed its welcome, they jumped the shark, they made bad show running decisions and what was once the biggest show on television is now nothing but an overgrown joke. I hated Fear, and I refuse to watch any of the spin offs. They stopped caring about the fans and resorted to cheap fake outs where most of the time it didn’t matter anyway because the character still died. (Like Glen and Rosita). I miss that feeling of excitement, when Monday rolled around and we had so much to talk about; but the show lost what made it special. I hoped that the show would be salvaged, that they would wrap up the story of the Great Rick Grimes, similar to the comic book ending. I didn’t need TWD to be wrapped up with a pretty red bow, but then again, I never thought it would become this bad. I love the title of your video because that is exactly how I feel, and I’m sorry that so many of us feel this way. I feel like I wasted my time and sometimes I wish that I had never started watching, because it has become so very disappointing and the fall from Grace wasn’t easy to watch. We went from watching the best show on television to watching a cheap cash cow. I’ll always think about the show fondly, but I feel like even the best parts of the show are now overshadowed by the greed, mistakes, and the weak moments of the franchise. Maybe one day I’ll go back and rewatch good old Officer Friendly, but for now; I’m going to try to find a new favorite show. Part of me feels like we collectively wasted our time, but for what it was; we had a good time and TWD had a good run.

[@gerardmcquade]

Judith being able to close the door is scientifically proven fight or flight response you find the energy and muscle to do these things

[@haydeng3541]

Adrenaline is a crazy thing

[@TheModernPioneer]

Not if you’re a 12 year old girl who was literally unconscious minutes ago from being shot and is actively bleeding out. Giving a basic description of ‘adrenaline’ is not an adequate explanation for this scene.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

yeah perhaps that was a bit nitpicky

[@sammijane]

@@HeyJoshyJosh I agree that one thing could be a bit nit picky but the thing about it for me that makes it unrealistic and why I think you are still right is that you see in the shot before they cut to another that the zombie was literally right at the door. Then she just ends up at the other end of the table metres away in a jump cut without the zombie having gotten in or moved even though the door hadn’t closed yet and even if she knocked it back a bit in between those shots she would have still been screwed. Probably almost better off at that rate to let that one in and kill it quick with that adrenaline she may or may not have had as she’s very skilled and has a weapon on her still and then close the door, and put the table there.

[@user-ch1qv4qk4z]

@@TheModernPioneer but that is exactly how adrenaline works. Adrenaline can completely erase the feeling of pain and give you strength that you normally wouldnt have... Its your body going to the extreme limits to save you.

[@EclecticDD]

Killing off Carl hurt the show and affected the ending.

[@dm6182696]

Hey man I've watched you for the last 4 years. I'm glad I found this video. Trust me you aren't the only one who feels this way. I recently rewatched The Walking Dead with my finance. Seasons 1-4 were magic. The show lost something when the group left the prison.

[@amalali504]

Couldn't agree more! I felt robbed after an investment of 11 seasons to be that rushed out of the show and hustled into watching an inexplicable number of franchises with a promise that they'll be compelling when they couldn't give the one they had in their hand a proper send off. Trust is broken and I'm OUT I'm afraid.

[@froggylove224]

I’m glad you’re back, hope you’ve been doing ok. Sorry to hear you fell out of love with the show. I still like the show, it’s my favorite in fact, but I can see how it can be disappointing to a fan who has watched the show for many years. I only binged the show with my family last year so I didn’t dedicate a huge part of my life to it. Here are some of my thoughts: I actually liked the finale, but it didn’t feel like a finale. Obviously, they were setting up all the spin offs so it wasn’t a good conclusion to the show or for those who don’t plan to watch the spin-offs. I thought Rosita’s death was quite sad, but the fake-out death was a little dumb as I immediately figured that she would later reveal that she had been bit. I thought Gabriel’s final lines to her were very sweet, though. Embarrassing to say, but I’ve shipped Daryl and Connie for a while and I was surprised and a little disappointed that they weren’t a couple after the 1 year jump. Of course, it would have been bad timing since he would be leaving for the spin-off, but I thought that was where the writers were going. The montage at the end of all the characters was dumb. Like I get that it was paying tribute to all those who have worked on the show, but it was so unnecessary. They should have used that time to make other scenes feel less rushed rather than showing characters who haven’t been relative to the plot for many seasons. They added in varient walkers WAY too late into the show. It would have been cool if this final season was more focused on the variants rather than the Reapers and other pointless parts. And the variants were not really used in the last few episodes, sure there were a few moments like climbers climbing up the wall, but it was really just more setting up for the spin-offs (I assume). Wasted potential of what could have been an amazing twist to the walkers. I liked seeing Lance as a walker. He was one of my favorite characters from this season so it was just nice to see him again… even if he was dead lol. Finally, I’m sure we can all agree that the best part of the finale was seeing the famous Rick Grimes’ feet in the mud! 🥵🥵🥵 Best shot of the entire series!

[@beyazzenci1800]

Should be included in celeb feet 😂

[@baigmen]

I agree with your thoughts on the ending, but I thought the ending made me feel at peace. I don’t know how explain it, once I saw Rick and Michonne knowing they’re still out there was enough for me. Some parts were sloppy, but I chalk that up to the network cutting things to just get it over with. With the way things were going in the first third of season 11 they definitely had plans to have a 12 and finale season with the arch with the Reapers. It all felt kinda pointless once it got wrapped. Some of the things I had a problem with are nitpicky, but it is a Zombie show so you have to suspend some disbelief (the reason why season 8 is the worst very unbelievable) like Judith having the strength to close a door whilst bleeding out, also Daryl conveniently having a universal blood type, Luke and his girl being brought back for no reason, etc.

[@Antumarin]

The "ending" is exactly what I expected, so I can't even say that it dissapointed me

[@mullaoslo]

yup, i got so much shit on reddit for predicting exactly what happened right down to the end credit scene

[@lukasv5996]

Comic spoilers ahead: I actually think that the scene where Pamela was trying to get bitten was supposed to be a reference. Pam has a similar appearance to Carol in the comics and the scene mirrors the scene in the comics where Carol actually does let herself get bitten. The pose is exactly the same and I just thought it was a neat reference to the comics. All in all, although I was able to enjoy the episode for what it was, I actually pretty much agree with you on this finale. It could have been so much more and the trailers at the end felt cheap.

[@HistoryandReviews]

You’re not original we already knew that the moment we saw it

[@lukasv5996]

@@HistoryandReviews uhm ok

[@dazinqwilly3385]

@@HistoryandReviews bro stop being toxic. I see you hating on others just for thinking they are wrong when sometimes they are right!

[@mullaoslo]

first off all if people didnt catch that refrence.. .shame on them... second fuck amc for teasing it while not pulling the trigger.. i screamed when they pulled her away.. ive been wating 10 years to see that death on screen

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Yeah I get the comic Carol reference, but I they should've gone all the way and killed Pamela in that scene. It's not like Pamela has anything else to live for after losing the community and her son, her dying to Hornsby would've been an interesting way for character to go out of the show.

[@multifantv1245]

I LOVE that you brought up about the breaking bad universe and Better call Saul being a perfect ending. I think that the universe is so perfect where you’re left wanting more because you love the writing and everything behind the universe but the closure was so perfect I’m okay with it being over

[@peterjosephtorres]

Eugene and Rosita’s acting was great. You probably weren’t a fan of the character so giving her the big story of the finale felt unjustified. I’ve always liked Rosita and was happy she got the treatment she deserved.

[@alexdavid3339]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like a lot of what Angela Kang planned on happening either got cut during production; or during the edit. Characters like Aaron and Ezekiel get really unsatisfying wrap ups, with Ross Marquand even mentioning Aaron had more scenes in the finale that got cut for time. Mercer getting arrested is pointless, Elijah and Lydia got split up for no reason because we didn't see Jerry find him. The whole commonwealth wrap up happened absurdly quickly. Story points are established and go absolutely no where. What was destination 2? Why did that walker pickup a knife? I think the fact that Angela Kang no longer has any involvement with the Walking Dead after this series even though she was supposed to be working on the Daryl show is really telling. I wouldn't be surprised if AMC really stuck their fingers in and interfered with this season.

[@bishbosh4815]

RIGHT I feel like the only person who's questioning why that variant walker that picked up the knife never came up again! Why didn't they make it so it stabbed Rosita in the leg and that's why she fell, or stabbed Elijah or something? LITERALLY never comes up again!

[@bishbosh4815]

That is what a lot of it is, they keep introducing too many things and not knowing where to go with it instead of just focusing on a central theme and problem

[@beaver6d9]

They talked a lot about the finale production in detail in interviews, and that was definitely the case. They even got extra money and time and still couldn't do everything they wanted.

[@bishbosh4815]

@@beaver6d9 i feel like that's always gonna be the excuse though. That didn't hold them back in early seasons

[@beaver6d9]

@@bishbosh4815 this show makes amc billions, I'll never understand why they were so stingy with the budget over time.

[@gilly5809]

I hope you stick through Fear to the end. I absolutely love your reviews and how realistic you are about how bad it is lol. Either way thanks for all the TWD related reviews over the years, it's been fun

[@llama.d_puffy]

Can’t wait for all the spin-offs to get cancelled and after 10+ years we get TWD brotherhood

[@a.r.m.a]

I couldn't agree more with you man.... it sucks that TWD became so dissapointing, childish, predictable and confusing in the last seasons (except for S9, which deserves more appreciation imo). The show was widely famous for being a serious and "realistic" gore zombie show with great plot, makeup, interactions and characters development, and they just turned it into a MARVEL-ish cliché zombie show where the main characters are awesome, indestructible and survive the impossible by doing the coolest shit ever while looking good on camera, meanwhile the secondary ones die in the same situations just because they are secondary (never forget the reapers' ambush in the woods lmao). 4ever a widower of Darabont

[@AxelAlexK]

I felt the same way with many of your thoughts as I watched the last season. It was rushed, the reaper arc should have been cut down in favor of more commonwealth episodes. The writers were too conservative with deaths and they definitely didn't give a true ending. Judith should not of been able to blockade the hospital doors after being shot, that was stupid. As well as Rosita being able to get out of the walker horde she fell into, that was also stupid. No way she isn't ripped apart. She was surrounded by like 30 walkers, while being weighed down by a toddler on her chest yet she pushed and climbed her way out. One thing I don't think you mentioned was why was Eugene the last person to sit with Rosita prior to her death when Gabriel is her husband? Didn't make any sense to me. Her last scene should have been with her husband, despite her brother sister bond with Eugene. But yeah I am disappointed that TWD didn't get a real ending and Im not planning to watch the spin-offs. They're just obviously dragging this on forever and I have to draw a line at some point.

[@bluem5620]

Gabriel wasn't Rosita's husband. They were actually broken up by that time.

[@damoniewatt4086]

Felt like I was watching a FTWD episode 🥲

[@jamesalauri460]

I personally love the ending, but fully agree with your criticism's. It isn't really an ending. Imagine if they never announced all these spin offs, I bet far more people would hate this ending.

[@GojkoStojanovicII]

I like that the comic actually ended,it was Kirkman’s story and he wrote it start to finish without caving to any publishers demanding for shocking character deaths that would ruin their arc *cough* *cough* CARL,or produce endless garbage spinoffs that insult the fandoms intelligence

[@MrGamer-mv4xk]

Of course, AMC doesn't care about the audience. They don't give a shit about the quality of their shows, especially with TWD. If they have a spinoff of the characters just taking a shit for 40 minutes straight. They will do it as long they get money out of it.

[@MaryGIrlMoody]

Yes, the final season sucked. People suddenly showed up in locations where it generally took weeks to get there. Heavy plot armor kept characters safe and red shirts dead. Daryl was kidnapped...again! Governor Milton committed crimes against her people, but they always followed her lead. So many fake outs. Abandoned storylines. Rushed to end the series. And characters were always suddenly saved. When the storm hit earlier in the season, Aaron saved Judith and Gracie, however, he became stuck in the basement with walkers grabbing at him. He held onto a pipe with his one hand, walkers inches away from him, but seconds later, Lydia is pulling him out of the basement using a rope. HTF did Aaron tie a rope around the pipe while holding onto it with his ONE hand?! It's like the writers of TWD saw the final season of Game of Thrones and just went with what they did.

[@dylanburton4955]

I personally enjoyed the finale and Rositas death hit me pretty hard (A lot more then it was gonna) and not gonna lie I was skeptical of a Daryl spin off but with how much he’s stepped up since Season 9 and showing more of what Norman Reedus can do I think he can carry a show, I’m sure we’ll get good secondary characters to compliment him As for Dead City I am intrigued to see Maggie and Negan developed further seen as they’re good enough actors to carry it and I’m curious about seeing New York so far into the Apocalypse As for Rick and Michonne, I’ll be happy to see them two together again and no doubt Andrew Lincoln will absolutely kill it in the role like he always does and hopefully we finally get more of a good explanation about the CRM cuz World Beyond Season 2 was pretty promising. And also Danai is helping with the writing so I'm glad she's a part of the creative process That said, I always appreciate how honest you are about what you think and that’s what makes you one of my fave Walking Dead KZbinrs

[@LordDamianus]

Another dumb thing I'd like to point out in this finale is Ezekiel becoming the governor of the Commonwealth and Mercer becoming his right hand man. It just felt out of place and out of nowhere. Sure, Ezekiel was a leader once, but still that was very out of nowhere. I could see Maggie or Yumiko more in this role. Also, I really can't imagine a guy like Mercer giving up his job as a general of the Commonwealth army to become a bureaucrat.

[@isaiahjones6255]

Maggie has her spin offs and yumiko is a lawyer

[@III_Ed_B_III]

"What happened to da Oceanside" - Luke and some random woman I can't remember the name of turn up in "the woods" and explain bad things happen. Luke and some random woman I can't remember the name of get bit - during Luke's death scene a few minor characters cry and then finish him really quickly while Daryl and Carol literally shrug and ignore them like they don't exist. A tiny child gets shot then barricades a random room, to save a man who was assaulted by 2 stormtroopers but wasn't killed even though they were on a command to shoot to kil all traitors. Or were they? Either way it didn't make any sense. Negan married and impregnated some woman off screen - then they disappear. Maggie says she'll never really forgive Negan over some annoying mood music (YOU WILL FEEL SOMETHING DESPITE THIS HORRIBLE ACTING). Lydia, Aaron, and some others walk for ages in a horde then decide to hide in a caravan for no reason. Lydia gets bit and has her arm chopped off, while moaning about losing random guy in a mask who was never introduced or developed properly. Jerry goes to save mask guy, even though he would have been instantly bitten. Then - NOTHING - until they appear with no explanation as to how Jerry and Mask random turn up in the commonwealth. The Commonwealth had thousands of residents yet about 30 were left standing by a gate, slowly getting picked off by Pam and her loyal stormtroopers. Stormtroopers who IMMEDIATELY flop when pressured by the 'main cast'. Loads of explanation dialogue mumbled through - what was even going on with Daryl and the Judith chat about Michonne before the Rick montage. Don't even get me started on the Rick montage. Just been typing this while listening to the first ten minutes or so. The finale was utter shit. It was good to see some old "friends" from the cast doing things, but that doesn't take away from horrible dialogue, poor pacing, emotional manipulation through montage and sentimentality, huge plot holes, nonsensical plot twists, and unsatisfactory set-ups/pay-offs. Daryl re/mis-quoting Rick was the final shit on a massive dead corpse of a show and franchise. The spin-offs will be more Fear/World Beyond-type fodder, made by hacks on a low budget. I'm happy to be proved wrong. e: Just finished the video, put your personality into something you have energy for - there are plenty of more innovative shows/franchises out there that that deserve the time.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

You're absolutely right about so much stuff happening off-screen this season. Same thing happened when Maggie spoke to Negan about what she saw on the road, something to do with dead walker babies coming out of their mothers (I can't remember the exact conversation), but this is something that would've been cool to see, but instead Maggie just tells us about it. The Jerry thing was pointless. He says, "see you on the otherside" to Aaron when he leaves, and I figure okay we will see him with the hoarde next episode and he's probably going to die, but instead he just quickly runs through the gate in the finale and it's completely fine :/ Also, agree with you on the 30 residents by the gate thing. I'm pretty sure Mercer has a line where he says, "there's hundreds of people out there", and then it pans to the gate and there's like 30 people there lol

[@III_Ed_B_III]

@@HeyJoshyJosh I wrote this after a few drinks last night, catching up with your review of the finale, and I stand by all the points made. I love 'The Walking Dead'. Hershel leaving us, Rick and Shane, the build-up to Negan arriving, the Governor, losing Noah and Tyrese, Terminus, Abraham and co. arriving, Glenn's character development, the complexity of the old Carol, Daryl as a powerful side character, Merle, Alexandria and Aaron's arrival, Rick raising Carl in the apocalypse, Hilltop, Jesus toying with Rick and Daryl, Eugene's fall from grace and redemption, the 'group' evolving as an entity and whether it represented right or wrong, the list goes on. I don't know what happened, but around season 8/9 and the big lawsuit involving Darabont, it's like the show runners had to clear the decks and start to run the main show and spin-offs on a strict budget. Since that point, in the main show, Fear, and vehicles like World Beyond, they've gradually lowered the quality bar to a point where anything other than terrible is acceptable. People are praising the finale "because it wasn't awful". It's such a low standard. TWD was on a par with Breaking Bad, GoT, and other huge streaming titles in its early years. What they've done in the last few years has dragged it way below that standard. And yet they still try and con viewers into thinking what they're producing is alright. Anyone in the business or with a critical eye, would tell you that this show - in terms of writing, production, budget, direction, character development, and budget - is rock bottom. One of the first things they teach you in writing school is "show don't tell" - these frauds, even on a big title, can't stick to basic principles like this. There's a general distaste for TWD from older generations because they can see this show's fall from grace. It can't be resolved, because the egos on the show runners are inflated and entangled to the point where there is no way out (lol). The spin-offs will be short-lived and World Beyond/Fear quality levels. If one of them proves me wrong I'll be elated. I can't see it happening though, because those in control are the problem (and the reason why this franchise has declined spectacularly since Season 8/9 of the main series, and the end of Fear Season 3).

[@brianachim2670]

@@HeyJoshyJosh I think Mercer said thousands of people, blame the trash budget. 🤣

[@DonniePCgames]

I was pretty disappointed in the finale as well. It just didn't feel like an ending. The whole thing was just weak. I didn't think the show did anything bold, brave or unique to send it off.

[@thearomanticshipper4468]

Completely agree. The walking dead has always had problems, but AMC turned the franchise into a complete cash grab. Finale is just a setup for more pointless spin-offs.

[@robnewsome2407]

It was a little rushed but I thought it was really good, as I said before, some people were never going to be happy no matter how it ended , you are also right that it never really ended because they have spinoffs coming. I'm glad your not in charge. I bet if it would have ended just like you said, you would still sit and complain. Luke says Commonwealth took over Oceanside, same thing that happened with the other communities, did you really need to see that? 😭😭😭😭😭😭Wawawa

[@danteezy945]

My thoughts exactly

[@olliepowell4920]

This episode was genuinely hard to watch I couldn’t believe how poor the writing was

[@sondosoft4603]

My expectations were kind of rock bottom because of the endless amounts of spin-offs announced (all of which I’m excited for). But still it’s a lot of air taken out of it. And in that context I did enjoy the episode, though it wasn’t an actual ending as you say.

[@tuberculosisoxcart1685]

I really enjoyed the show at first. I started losing interest when the negan storyline dragged on too long. after that I just stopped caring but held out hope the show would improve. It didn’t, consequently I didn’t watch the last two seasons. Funny thing is what absolutely killed the TWD universe for me was the crying baby episode of FTWD. What the hell were they thinking.

[@zachduffy3397]

While I did not hate the finale and did like a few parts of it. I had this very empty feeling like I didn’t watch a finale….. there just wasn’t enough closure thats where my biggest issue is at. Edit: Also this episode was way too short like needed at least another hour short.

[@wisecontragio172]

Sebastian and Lance were wasted, some of the best characters in a while, season 11 very weak tbh the first 6 seasons of twd remain undefeated

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Agree, the season went downhill once Sebastian died, Pamela being the final boss was a bad decision that ended on a whimper with her being talked down by Daryl in 2 minutes :/

[@bishbosh4815]

Honestly I did like the finale but it couldve been so much better. But the whole season couldve been better. I'm fine with it not feeling like a conclusive ending because... well it isn't, and I didn't expect it to be, merely because the spinoffs exist, we all knew these wouldn't be "the end". But I was still expecting a lot more payoff. The Commonwealth arc was wrapped up so quickly and easily, and I think the pacing and narrative of the final episodes has been very rushed and messy. It's so weird how they set up Lance Hornsby in 11B and all that conflict was already there, and then they just scrapped all that and made Pamela the main villain instead, killed off Sebastian and Lance, the better 2 of the 3 antagonists, shoehorned in variant walkers in the 11th hour without them having any meaningful impact on the story or any explanation also to how they even exist, and yeah just so much set up for the future, but not even that really because we didn't get any CRM connections, Rick and Michonne didn't show up till the last 5 minutes, and we still have no idea why Maggie and Negan go to New York or why Daryl goes to France. There were some positives though, Josh, Christian, Lauren and JDM's acting was stellar, the emotional scenes of Rosita revealing her bite and her death, Maggie's sit down talk with Negan, him apologising to her for killing Glenn, comic book easter eggs and callbacks to old scenes and characters, full circle moments like Gabriel opening the gate that give some kind of conclusion to character arcs... very dramatic and cathartic moments. But at its core the writing wasn't great, the way Rosita got bit was dumb af, how they stopped Pamela and just arrested her, things they set up that never came up again, the way they just wasted so much time in these final 8 episodes, the missed opportunities to do something bigger and better, Judith telling Daryl Rick is alive was underwhelming af... there's a lot that didn't work and didn't make for a satisfying conclusion even knowing and accepting it's not a real conclusion! Even little moments I initially really liked are dumb when you think about it. Like Negan giving Judith back her compass... which he already did in s9 ep9... Yeah, idk, I've always been more excited for what comes after TWD ends than the ending itself, and it's never gonna be as good as it used to be. The ending was fine, not bad, but not good, and definitely not phenomenal and one of the best episodes ever. It probably isn't even in my top 50 or even 60. Everyone knows the best part of the episode was FINALLY seeing Rick again, that's the only thing that really boosts the episode

[@mullaoslo]

if it wasn't supposed to be the conclusion then why name the season "the final season"? Amc tried to have it both ways and failed miserably..the season sucked and the finale sucked... the entire 11A could have been scrapped, nothing from that section came back into play and was just a giant waste of time

[@bishbosh4815]

@@mullaoslo because it's the final season of the show but not the end of the story for the characters that are getting spinoffs. "TWD" will only ever end when the story of the OG characters ends

[@mullaoslo]

@@bishbosh4815 and they should have ended in the OG show.. why did i watch rick for 9 years to get his ending in another show that hasnt even started shooting yet?

[@bishbosh4815]

@@mullaoslo um because he left? There were supposed to be movies remember? Ever since he left 4 years ago its been the same, we knew his story wouldn't end on TWD. And if all goes well, it will be over soon. I hope the Rick and Michonne limited series gets more than 6 episodes coz I think it needs more, but it might not

[@mullaoslo]

@@bishbosh4815 They knew over a year ago that the movies wasnt going to happen.. i could have told them the day the announced the movies that it wasnt gonna happen, not big enough audience for a theatrical release. What they should have done was give andy a 3 year break and bring him back in 11B at the latest...Win win for everyone but noooo amc needs their fucking spin offs so lets just watch a season of nothing filler that ends on a fucking commercial

[@Spider-Man62]

So I went in with bad expectations and I got a great end to the show. The show has ended, it doesn’t feel like I now need to watch any of the spin-offs except the 6 episode limited Richonne series.

[@TEEANVEE]

You remind me of Ronny haze channel. He’s my favorite walking dead KZbin but you’re videos may be better. You pointed out things he didn’t. This is the first I’ve seen of your channel. Not many walking dead channels with reasonable takes like yours left because they all quit watching too lol😂

[@Dark_Brandon_2024]

Finally! The man we all have been waiting for! Finale sucked and "fans" ate it. We are the last true "fans" out there surrounded with literal walking dead...

[@SleepyTaylor]

I completely understand giving up and moving on. I'll be honest the only part of the final season I actually watched was part one. The rest I have only seen through nocbros reactions and heard through your reviews and Dan's. After seeing how poorly it was going, how many plot points they were bringing up just to drop and never mention, I had no interest in actually watching it first hand. The whole oceanside thing as well, I'm glad I didn't have to see that whole cliff hanger just to never get a true resolution. There are some good moments I've heard about in the season, but not nearly enough to justify the bad. I'll be honest I think if you were to switch to doing full season/show reviews it might be better. Personally I feel like those kind of videos are way more watchable to your average person, whereas only people currently following a show might be interested in singular episode videos. Regardless of what you do I'll stick around to watch.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Yeah I think you're right. I've kind of realized that weekly reviews aren't a sustainable format, nor is it an evergreen format. I mean I don't think many people are going to randomly search for "TWD Season 8 episode 2 review" 3 years after the episode aired, but people are more likely to want to watch a review of a specific season or an entire show even after it's finished, I know I do. Plus, doing weekly reviews means I need to stick to strict schedule, and sometimes the videos themselves can feel a bit rushed because I need to get it done before the next episode airs, I think reviewing a season/entire show will give me more time to make better scripts. Thanks for the continued support.

[@SleepyTaylor]

@@HeyJoshyJosh You hit the nail on the head. Sure you might get some fans of a show like me that decided to go back and watch your older reviews, but your casual watcher probably won't go back or search to watch reviews of individual episodes. It's more digestible to watch season/series reviews. I actually think the first video I got recommended of yours was the downfall of FTWD, which makes sense seeing as that is more of a general discussion of a show as opposed to a singular review. I can imagine not having to stick to a weekly schedule with your health problems would also be a godsend for you. I can imagine it's stressful wanting to make videos but not being physically able to. No problem at all, I hope the best for you and can't wait to see where you take your channel next! I won't lie to you though, I'll miss Scotty G.

[@HistoryandReviews]

Ezekiels constant speeches EVERY EPISODE OF SEASON 11 was CRINGE

[@nolifestudios4328]

I know you said that your not interested in the walking dead anymore, but are you still going to be doing rankings or seasons, top 10 episodes, etc.

[@sabrinissimauk]

That’s a shame, as the best part of watching the show, was going to KZbin afterwards to watch your reviews!! Hope you feel better soon!

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Thank you :) Tbh I've been thinking of reviewing a larger variety of shows for a while now, it gets kind of boring talking about the same franchise forever. Think I need to do this otherwise I'll just end up hating making videos lol

[@db_cooks]

You hit on a few of my biggest complaints of TWD in these final 5 seasons. The sense of realism and logic is gone from the writing. I did not dislike the finale as much as you and I will give these spin-offs a chance, but if they start feeling like the recent seasons or worse Fear TWD, I will not continue to watch them. I’m just baffled at how they forgot how to tell these zombie survival stories with any sense of realism. In the old days, the only thing I need to suspend my disbelief on was the fact that there were walkers. Everything else felt mostly real. But once season 7 started that was gone. The magic was gone. And most of the viewers were gone too.

[@HistoryandReviews]

There was NEVER realism or logic

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

@@HistoryandReviews the show began as a dark-gritty realistic take on the zombie genre, before turning into a show that included: a group living in a dump, a man who called himself "king" who had a pet tiger, a tyrant who named his baseball bat which he talked to, an akido loving sensei who lived with a goat who trained Morgan to be some kind of kung-fu master. Sure there were moments where you had to suspend your disbelief in the earlier seasons, but as the show progressed it got way too "comic-booky" and goofy.

[@tonywayne127]

Hello Josh been watching you since your channel started. You’ve been pretty much been spot on with most of your TWD reviews. Growing up and watching the TWD with family and friends it was a shame what happened with season 7-8. It’s also interesting but sad reading alternative timelines and stories the show could’ve done if wasn’t for FD leaving in season 2, scotty G antics and AMCs greediness. I’m from the UK too but I’m assuming most of your audience is American however I’d love you to review inside no 9 and death in paradise both shows on the BBC with new series about to come out early 2023.

[@leamael00]

Yup, horrible last episode in a horrible last season, up there with game of thrones and dexter. I have no idea how people can like it so much.

[@rubenabajyan4126]

The Chad returned I personally liked the ending,felt satisfying and leaving it open-ended but that's my opinion

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

There's open-ended, and then there's advertising. This final episode was an advertisement.

[@HistoryandReviews]

You have terrible taste

[@mullaoslo]

@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 I called it the pilot for the spin offs on reddit and its one of my most up-voted comments ever... i laughed when legit cut from the last image of the show to the trailer for the next one... at least have the respect to put credits between them

[@dachristiangamer]

Yup I also hated the Ending, I think most people have been tricked into liking the Ending because they saw Rick

[@Adog00]

YOO I hope you’re well man!! I’ve been waiting for a review

[@Holland4evahh]

Iam actually suprised you had any expectations for the final. This show has been terrible for seasons. Too bad you dont upload more reviews of shows and movies, i like your opinion.

[@Animedumptruck]

Rosita getting ripped apart would've been great especially since we haven't seen someone get a walker death in a stupidly long time.

[@blakelandry9313]

Comic I feel like was a lot better now the show just feels like a cash grub. AMC really ruined it. Original director of the series. He still made it comic accurate, but also added a few differences which was cool now we don’t even get that now it’s just using the name and characters but it’s a completely different story it’s not even an adaptation anymore

[@expedidor]

Loved the video, your despair is always entertaining and relatable hahaha Hope that when next fear season comes around you give it a chance... even if its bad you still can have some fun with us doing reviews 😂

[@michaelc1626]

Maybe since you watched it three times you heard better than I did but what I heard Daryl say was 'You've got one enemy, and it ain't the walking dead"...sort of implying that she was making enemies of her own people

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

to be honest I have a hard time working what Daryl is trying to say 90% of the time.

[@44Rich]

They milked it ahrigght 🐄🧟‍♀️ milked the life out...

[@bishbosh4815]

Did you see that they did actually originally film the kids 20 years in the future, and that was going to be the ending, but they changed it?

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

yeah that's a shame, I guess they don't want to give a definitive ending in case their spin-off stories change and contradict that ending.

[@bishbosh4815]

@@HeyJoshyJosh yeah, it was still a theory that they could come back at the end, or be there after a time jump, and the spinoff would fill in what happened, but I guess they want to leave that for the very end of the show/universe. But yeah like you said, they make it so you HAVE to watch the spinoffs to find out what happens next. If Rick had come back for good then there would be no incentive to watch the spinoff, but it's also true that him not coming back pissed people off enough that they don't care anymore. Idk what the right answer was. He never shouldve left in the first place, Carl never shouldve died, there's so many mistakes that've been made over the years, and this is where we are. It makes more fiscal sense to market the spinoffs in this way, but it's not what the fans deserve after watching TWD for 12 years

[@brianachim2670]

@@HeyJoshyJosh Actually Josh it would of made the ending even worse. It's pure cringe.

[@nickruss3678]

Good to see you're back man. Yep, the ending to the show was disappointing. AMC and the budgetary issues have always plagued this show, even back in the day, but especially now Well, at least like, half this shows seasons were good I guess 😐🤷‍♂️ Anyway, hope all is well with you and Scotty, Joshy Josh haha :)

[@baigmen]

More like 80% of the show is good.

[@demon_hawkeye5269]

@@baigmen Mostly agreed, the only sections of the show I could agree to being subpar was seasons 7-8 and the very end of this season and the reapers which made up the first 3rd of the season and the last episode so in total I'd say about 77% of the show was great

[@baigmen]

@@demon_hawkeye5269 I agree with the reapers part. I enjoyed it until the arch ended. It felt pointless. it would’ve helped imo if season 11 was to do the reapers arch and wrap up the series in a season 12. The final episode I felt wrapped things up nicely and seeing Rick and Michonne was enough to satisfy me. I’m not sure if I’ll be watching the spinoffs though because I haven’t bothered to watch any of the others except for fear which I started about 2 months ago. I still haven’t made it past season 2 and probably won’t lol. Re-Watching the series from the beginning earlier this year felt like it helped with my enjoyment of the show and finale. I started watching the show when it was initially coming out and just got bored of it but I’m glad I came back.

[@demon_hawkeye5269]

@@baigmen I got into the show in summer 2017 (so between the airing of seasons 7 and 8) and watched the show as it came out all the way through until the season 10 "finale" the only reason it then took me until season 11B was about to start airing to finally catch back up with it again was because of the gap between the "finale" and the extra episodes but yeah, I mostly watched it as it was coming out and enjoy it throughout even if I criticise some sections of it

[@baigmen]

@@demon_hawkeye5269 I mean it’s always good to be honest about the things you like. It’s also great to point out the lows so that way they can be turned into highs.

[@nestiboy]

I respect your choice, better to leave now than let yourself drag on with these shows forever. As for me, i'll keep watching your stuff and you might get me into a few shows or movies, which is always a good thing ;)

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Thank you :) I'd rather not run myself into the ground talking about something that I stopped caring about. I just need a break from TWD tbh.

[@BenRai2k]

I didn't mind the finale. or Rosita's death. But as you say, it just felt unfinished because we know its just leading to spinoffs. The real ending of TWD will be the Rick/Michonne series, really. Season 9 was great - 10 was ok, 11 was ok - but 11 is much more wasted potential. Reapers was so pointless?! You know i'd rather instead of reapers we had cloaked and masked satanic cultists sneaking around the woods kidnapping people for sacrifices - no redemption, no humanisation - just pure evil and twisted. Along side that - give us the feral cannibal people. Two 100% deranged, too far gone groups - showing how mankind is absolutely doomed and deranged without structure, and it would hammer home why it is imperative the group try and make commowealth work in the second half - despite the issues there. Just 3 episodes or so, with both threats happening at the same time. Then move to commonwealth quickly to let the story breath.

[@connerdearing]

i just super wish this show ended at the gates of Alexandria. the series was still pretty consistently good by that point (aside from the useless Beth arc and maybe some other small stuff) and it could’ve ended on a high note. a cut to black as ricks eyes widen when he hears people laughing in the gates would’ve been pretty perfect. after season 5 the show just lost its magic. And I like some of the episodes after that, but overall the show just took a dive.

[@Kwjl]

Can't wait to see this lol Edit: After watching the video I agree with what you mean by you don't care about TWD anymore, honestly for me I stopped caring sometime during season 8

[@EWall1498]

If the Rick and Michonne spinoff really is a limited series, then that will be the true ending. I'm fine with Negan and Maggie's ending being a simple declaration of peace between the two. I'm fine with Daryl just riding off into the sunset. He's always been a lonewolf, so it seems fine, though Connie should've gone along too. It's really just Rick and Michonne who's stories need to be closed up. But yeah, TWD's reluctance to kill characters in recent seasons led to a situation where there was just too much to address. I knew it could never feel even 90% complete.

[@PhillipOnTakos]

It's crazy how this is the first I've heard of the finale for what was at one point the biggest show on TV.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Yeah it's insane when you consider that 17 million people watched the season 5 premiere, not sure another show has fallen off this hard.

[@leecameron9226]

@@HeyJoshyJosh im excited for the Rick and miconne show because atleast it's Rick and hopefully new writers since its a different show

[@Shockkings0714]

@@HeyJoshyJosh Finale got 10+ mil viewers man. Far more than BCS. You people need to stop LMAO

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

@@Shockkings0714 it got about 2 million what are you talking about?

[@Shockkings0714]

@@HeyJoshyJosh You're looking at live viewership not accounting for AMC + viewers, recorded viewers, etc

[@jonasaaby6882]

No walking dead = No more Scotty G?!?! 😬😬😬

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

Can't stop Scotty G

[@matthewhoey6450]

The ending wasn't perfect for sure, but honestly if you've fallen out of love with a franchise I get it, it happens. I personally can't wait for the spin offs and the wider story with the CRM. However I will say this, Scott Gimple at the head of the Walking dead really has been a mixed bag and he has a lot of influence in what happens in these shows. I do feel like maybe in a year or 2 they should replace him with someone new to bring a fresh take to the walking dead and figure out a plan for what they want to do here exactly with these spin offs.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

I think I just need a break from TWD, maybe in a couple of years I'll want to come back to it and give it another chance, but I'm just a bit bored of franchises that never end. It's also why I haven't really cared about the MCU post-endgame, there's too many marvel films/show and I kind of just lost interest, same thing with TWD unfortunatley.

[@matthewhoey6450]

@@HeyJoshyJosh I totally get what you're saying, I've fallen out with Marvel and Star Wars as well mainly because they just feel directionless with no goal in mind. With the Walking Dead I do think there is still an interesting story there with the goal being the overarching narrative about the CRM which is why I personally will still watch. Some people like yourself were probably looking for a proper ending sooner rather than later and I get that completely, it has been over 12 years now.

[@brianachim2670]

Still better than Fear

[@587DeathKing]

When Carl died and then Rick left I knew the ending wouldn't hit as hard as the comic did and when the spin offs were announced I knew the ending was going to be lackluster to be nicely. But yeah for me too I'm done with the Walking Dead, the games ended, the comic ended, and now the show ended.

[@HistoryandReviews]

Oh please Chandelier Riggs CANT act!

[@isaiahjones6255]

@Lee Rick has Judith and RJ tho

[@GarryWilliams555]

I actually enjoyed the last episode, it was just the 23 episodes leading there were mostly very weak and didn't really have any stakes. Was hugely disappointed by season 11 after an amazing season 9 and a pretty good season 10.

[@danteezy945]

Same

[@cindyjemutai9812]

I don't blame you for being tired with the walking dead. The end was really disappointing for me, I actually came here hoping you'd talk about the new Maggie and negan spin off because I watched one episode and don't plan on seeing the rest. I was just tired of the whole thing 😂😂. Very frustrating watching 11 seasons of something and not getting a satisfying ending. They want to force us to get closure by watching thei spin offs but im not going to do that. All those characters are dead to me and I wasted my life just like you

[@batfitch4207]

Fr i really couldn't be asked to watch the maggie and negan because i knew it was just going to be the first 8 episodes of season 11 LIKE WE GET IT THESE GUYS DONT LIKE EACH OTHER

[@lilcoffeebandit]

Completely agree. I was so confused by the subreddit comments. Were people satisfied because their expectations had been lowered so much by the likes of FTWD or some later seasons of the main show, maybe? Now all is said and done, i feel like the show should have ended when they reached the gates of Alexandria. The relief felt in that moment on first watch was fantastic.

[@jaygee2068]

What happened to all the other kids from Alexandria..like the kid who tried to bully judith..they just sort of disappeared

[@alyazumi3197]

If I remember right, one got badly injured by Negan while he was saving Lydia, Gage got killed in the train because Maggie refused to open the door to save him. And the rest, yes, they kinda disappeared

[@K1llamat1cz]

I didn’t even watch the last episodes the series really hit a new low

[@jasonadersonwedion9874]

Finally someone who gets it agree the finale was rushed and boring nothing really happened also the Rick tease was cheap and honestly I don’t really care anymore if he returns

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

same, it's been too long. He's been gone for over 2 seasons, I'm past the point of caring. They should've killed him back in Season 9.

[@jasonadersonwedion9874]

@@HeyJoshyJosh 👍

[@MCat360]

I only really like the first two seasons of TWD. As a whole though, I really can’t watch this show at all anymore without laughing because it’s just just so over the top. They should have ended this show years ago. Each new character that gets introduced to the show throughout the years I’ve cared less and less about. So many wonderful characters were killed off just to make room for characters that are boring or just annoying to me. I’ll admit I was really into this show up until the Negan era. The killing of Carl was the nail in the coffin for me. They cut my heart out with his death and left me feeling dead inside. It might sound dramatic but killing Carl killed my interest in the show. I really wanted to see how he transitioned from a boy to a man living in this terrifying new world. As far as the spin-offs go I could care less.

[@ambystoma398]

Josh not taking any sh*t from TWD. Great review! Sad to hear that you won't be doing FTWD reviews anymore since your rants were the best thing about this show to me. Totally understandable though... Wishing you all the best.

[@redelephantsdotnl]

I'm *about* to watch this, and will vent in advance. I wonder if we say the same thing. 1. I hate that it's *another* cliffhanger for more to come. Like every season before it. Just bloody end, already! I've seen enough, but will ultimately watch the rest too. Aww man. 2. That stupid explosion thing. Way out of proportion with anything we've seen so far - and utterly useless, too. By now, everyone there has herded zombies. Herd them off a cliff and not blow up the town! 3. That horrible 'Daryl says what Rick should have said' thing. Way out of character, damn. Okay, play. Ha. Finally someone agrees on the ending being another stupid cliffhanger. Thank you! Oh, most things you mentioned, I didn't even notice. I just saw an endless fight like so many times before it. It was so long, and so much that we've seen a dozen times now that I didn't really notice the nuances of it.

[@HistoryandReviews]

They ONLY blew up the rich area. Isnt it hilarious that every movie starting with The Last Jedi until now has an “anti rich people” rhetoric yet the people making this 💩 and the companies paying for it are all rich

[@redelephantsdotnl]

Yeah, and in this - it's even worse. The evil-dicator-lady-that-doesnt-care-about-the-poor-people is just that. Nothing more, nothing less. No character behind it, just an evil poor-people-abuser, with no justification at all. Not even a *hint* of purpose towards making her empire work, all the while having an empire that works, and nobody notices. Sure. And then the audacity of saying 'you're acting like it's the old world', just... No.

[@HeyJoshyJosh]

@@redelephantsdotnl I remember having some good political/ethical discussions in the comments during 11A when the characters began to settle at the commonwealth, and we learnt that the commonwealth still use money as currency and have a class based system, etc. But by the end of the season the writers turned the commonwealth soldiers, and the higher ups like Pamela into such generic "bad guys" that any nuisance was completely lost. I feel like at the start of the season there were good arguments to had on both sides as to whether the commonwealth were actually good or bad, but come the end of the season the writers turned them into fucking nazis who had labor camps. It's a shame, because in the comics they were never presented as a fascist like group, it was more subtle, but TV commonwealth just ended up being generic villians.

[@redelephantsdotnl]

@@HeyJoshyJosh Yeah, it makes no sense. And then you cut the head off the snake and all is well. Because of those 50-thousandish, no one ever talked about their blatant facist regime is up to.

[@geoffreyhhill]

Daryl in France: “grunt grunt oui oui” 😂