The Walking Dead | S4 E14 'The Grove' | Reaction | Review

[@phoenixfox2697]

Such an iconic episode of TWD. Big props to Brighton Sharbino, the actress who played Lizzie. She acted the shit outta that role.

[@phoenixfox2697]

PS get yo asses to the PO Box!!!!

[@amyfender1]

Yes she did!!

[@crimsonjedi]

I was going to comment this. Melissa McBride also did a fantastic job.

[@nychhutch5037]

I agree, except for the very end “look at the flowers” scene....the acting was kind cringy at that part

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

Yep

[@Nevi234]

I think Tyreese decided not to hurt Carol because he saw what taking another life did to her; Carol is not heartless or emotionless. Killing Lizzie was a tough decision to make, and even tougher to execute. Killing Karen was probably the same. She didn't make those decisions lightly and her actions(that had good intentions but still bad) weigh heavily on her and cause her so much anguish that she was prepared to die by Tyreese's hand. Tyreese saw that she is human and, despite misguided actions, has a good heart and a conscious.

[@atomicjoseph9295]

I saw the episode in the title and went "Awww Shit, it's time to look at some flowers"

[@あみりあ-d8q]

Joseph Gardiner XDDDD same

[@Rohan-nc8jt]

Yep, me too

[@WileChile51]

For the longest time I actually thought that was the name of the episode lol

[@sam-psonsmith9951]

@@WileChile51 i know that wasn't what you meant, but i laughed quite a little, imagining the title was: "Awww Shit, it's time to look at some flowers"

[@WileChile51]

@@sam-psonsmith9951 Lol! That should be the real title of the episode

[@bryanburton6087]

"I forgive you." The hardest words to say and actually mean. Tyrese is a good man. I miss Mika.

[@Pylon.Boi03]

Mika could of been such a good character, I wish Lizzie killed her self instead to show that she would come back and still be herself.

[@jesses5463]

Mika was nice, but Lizzie was the better character. Forever missed.

[@smwatertasteslikewater]

@@jesses5463ugh the murderer is better? Jfc

[@jesses5463]

​@@smwatertasteslikewater Is this not often the case?

[@bounceoutwitdrummy]

​@@jesses5463sometimes, but in this case Mika >

[@weekazaa3376]

Having a mental illness in the apocalypse is brutal 😞😞I seen no other way to be honest. Carol had to protect Judith and anyone Lizzie came into contact with.

[@КоваленкоСаша-д7р]

Heyy Karen

[@yerk55]

It's heavy moments like this that make this show so compelling. I think this was the more humane resolution. She could not be trusted around Judith or anyone after this. It was either putting her down or abandoning her. The latter would just have had her "playing" with walkers till she was inevitably, painfully ripped apart. Just like she was about to let that one she was playing with in the yard almost get her when Carol was running over. She wouldn't have made it on her own. This was more painless resolution for her, really. Great episode.

[@BenRai2k]

I seem to recall from an interview that Lizzie was "ok" killing the burning walkers as they resembled monsters more so than regular walkers. This is still one of the top episodes after 10 seasons.

[@chadjohnson2404]

Agree! It is still one of those episodes that just had it all, writing, acting, visually engrossing, & organic score..... directed into perfection.

[@NeuroticNicky87]

It didn't look like she was even shooting them to me.

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

Yep

[@akaLids77]

One of the best walking dead episodes. Period. It just an emotional roller coaster. Amazing acting from EVERYONE.

[@arashazimi826]

I agree 👍

[@cindyspangler3982]

Melissa McBride/Carol, won an award for this episode (Saturn Award I think), and she deserved it. Chad Coleman was also fabulous. I have tears in my eyes now just watching it again. It was a very "Of Mice and Men" tribute in a way. Lacy was right that Lizzie had to be schitzophrentic, and with no treatment, no medicine, no counseling, Carol did the only thing that could be done. And yes, Carol did feel she didnt deserve to live, and when Tyreese forgave her, it was a beautiful scene. Your reactions were spot on. As for Carol, she carries it all with her till this day.

[@07viiper74]

One of the good/darkest episodes and Mika could’ve live longer, I already imagine what she’d become in the future. Rip little sweet girl

[@КоваленкоСаша-д7р]

True tho

[@eclaire_x88x]

I feel for Mika, shes a good kid. "Shes gotta stop letting them kids out, we need to tie Lizze up" 😂love that, that was my thoughts exactly

[@darthken815]

I would've told Lizzie we're going to play a fun new "game" Tie her up to a tree as part of "the game", and then run like hell!

[@jesses5463]

@@darthken815 wow, you are an absolutely terrible human being.

[@JacksWorldYT]

The Blu Ray had an alternate angle of the “Look at the Flowers” scene from Ty’s POV from the window so we actually see Carol shoot her & see her body fall & react. It’s a much more jarring scene IMO makes it seem more impactful but Carol’s face does say SO much when it cuts to her afterwards.

[@bweany91]

wow is it a flabby scene?

[@jmominis]

I think they cut it from TV version bc it was a bit much to see the shot hit her. They snipped it down so we see Carol closeup and pull the trigger. Then Tyrese POV but she was already on the ground

[@saraarnett2557]

Random Easter egg I remember from this episode: the puzzle on the table when Ty and Carol have the talk was a picture of Sofia ❤️

[@amyfender1]

I never noticed!!

[@RcksAngl]

Amy,I think it was said on The Talking Dead!!

[@Mimoo7]

awww i didnt know that, thats awesome!

[@cindyspangler3982]

Yes! I think Gimple explained those few puzzle pieces next to the gun were set there on purpose, to show Tyreese finally getting the pieces to HIS puzzle.

[@stijnbarneveld3999]

time stamp?

[@echo8630]

The acting in this episode, by all four of them, was top notch. To this day, it's still on my top 10 best episodes list.

[@julia.e.carpenter]

During this time, i felt Milton Mamet’s the only one that could help Lizzie Samuels and try to understand her way of thinking. He’s such a detailed oriented guy and would write everything down and asking everything like Hershel’s leg.

[@fkw1239]

Mika is kind of my type of brave survivor in the new undead world, what Lizzie did is so horrible to her own sister :( very sad for Carol too

[@panjamysy]

That little girl who plays Lizzie...INCREDIBLE acting. Just...WOW.

[@Winter74575]

😭😭😭Even watching you guys watching it again I couldn’t stop the tears 😭. RIP Mika, RIP Lizzie. Lizzie has mental issues so she couldn’t help herself as she sees things differently so I still feel for her. The brain is a very mysterious organ and they’re kids with autism and other mental disabilities. I don’t think Lizzie was evil but she was a troubled little girl ( so sad)hence why the flowers calms her 😭😭😭🧟‍♂️

[@RosebudKane41]

This episode solidified Carol as being my favorite character on the show. Also, Melissa McBrides performance in this episode is PHENOMENAL. 👍👏❤

[@nykemurakami]

Tyrese watching Carol shoot Lizzie may have been what caused him to forgive her because he saw that she had to make a difficult decision. Something prob no one else could’ve done. Carol is such a strong character it’s really messed up she has to go through everything that’s happened to her. If the girls didn’t die, then I don’t think she would’ve ever told Tyrese about Karen and David but since it was such a traumatic day she figured there was nothing else to lose. Tyrese’s ability to forgive came from him having to watch Carol make a decision that in the long run would save lies just like at the prison . :((

[@CaptainPikeachu]

The whole Lizzie and Mika thing was just so sad and tragic, for both girls. Mika being killed by her own sister, the horror and trauma of it before she died, who knows what Mika could have gone on to do, she could have done great things. And Lizzie, just so much tragedy because her mental illness prevented her from being able to understand. Yes she did this horrible thing but it was clearly the product of this illness, and maybe if the world hadn’t fallen apart, she could have gotten medication or therapy to help her get better and overcome it as she got older, but this world they live in, there was nothing that could help her and she’s doomed to have this illness be the reason she has to die. It’s just so truly tragic for the girls. In a world with no zombie apocalypse, they could have both been happy and alive.

[@danielmaia8469]

Super heavy episode! To kill a child would be a terrible thing to do for any person, but for a mother who already lost a daughter, it seems so much worse. Just look at the flowers and carry on! Great reaction and great discussion after!

[@jimwalker7740]

this is one of the most powerful episodes in the walking dead the decisions that carol had to make was so human and difficult I commend the writers for this one, lots of good ones to go, guys.

[@nizzleprizzle9783]

I love this and the other standalone character center eps like clear and the one in S6.

[@lotusblomst5071]

I wouldn't really say human but ok

[@eskayh7734]

Gimple wrote this. One of his best ever.

[@lotusblomst5071]

@@eskayh7734 oh shit, u learn something new every day ....

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

O

[@jeremyharbin9450]

I remember crying my eyes out during this episode when I first seen it and then watching Talking Dead and everyone was in tears the host the audience and the actors including Mellisa who plays Carol.

[@UTU49]

Any chance you could link to it?

[@jeremyharbin9450]

Not sure how to link it but it was season4 Talking Dead and I believe it’s the same episode number

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

O

[@BlairKillgallon]

“Tell me about the rabbits, George.” God this episode is brutal.

[@memitaylor4323]

Blair Kilgallon Hi Blair, Loved that book, Of Mice& Men❣️

[@lmj2k]

Of Rats and Walkers.

[@CGCentralHD]

I understood that reference

[@angie-tq4ew]

It had to be the inspiration for this episode, right? 😢

[@cfinley81]

I always think of the same thing. Lol

[@robindowse4473]

Your faces watching “Just another stupid zombie flick” are priceless. That 1x1 comment just resonates through the seasons.

[@nizzleprizzle9783]

Just a lovely Carol defining episode.

[@amyfender1]

yes!! Made me love Carol even more!!

[@MrTabs64]

One of my favourite Walking Dead episodes - Some great acting in this one.

[@cfinley81]

This ending always gets me....just like the ending to "Of Mice and Men". (Except Lennie wasn't a psycho killer.) But Lizzie was a tragic case. She was strong, determined, and a great shot, but her mental sickness mixed with the world they were now living in was a ticking time bomb. She had no remorse. No moral ground. And she was a child. There was no other choice. Now Carol knows why Rick sent her away, other than saving her from Tyreese. She had done just what Lizzie did after she killed Karen and David. She tried to justify it to Rick and saying she "had to do it." She's saw herself in Lizzie. That's why she told Tyreese "do what you have to do."

[@memitaylor4323]

Christina Finley Hi Christina, Great observation!

[@bweany91]

Woww i never realised that

[@loomick]

Except she did have both remorse and a very deep sense of morality.

[@takersgurl]

Brighton Sharbino did a great job playing Lizzie, mad props to her for the wonderful job she did. This is one of my favorite episodes. Its a good question what do you do with people like Lizzie in the apocalypse, nothing much else Carol could do, but it killed her inside to do it.

[@michaelmatejka1068]

No ones made for this world. Everyone had to adapt. Carol wasn’t ready. Glenn was just a pizza guy. Mika could’ve grown into something amazing. It still pisses me off

[@lmsossi6501]

The Lizzie, Mika, and Carol story is one of the most tragic things I've ever seen. Lizzie was just a young child, but she represented a constant threat to everyone else she would ever have contact with. She couldn't be left on her own as she wouldn't be able to survive, but she had murdered her own sister and wanted to kill Judith, and her psychosis would have been getting worse after that. They really had no choice as they couldn't trust her, couldn't leave her, and couldn't have someone else take care of her as she would be a threat to them. The fact that Lizzie was crying and worried that Carol was mad at her made those final seconds even more excruciating for Carol. She seemed like such a little girl, but she was incredibly dangerous. Carol couldn't have left with Lizzie for several reasons. First, she was likely to kill Carol and couldn't be trusted with a weapon, but, left without a weapon, she was vulnerable to the walkers. Second, Carrol couldn't ensure that Lizzie wouldn't endamger other people they met. Third, Tyrese wouldn't be able to fight walkers off with Judith constantly in his arms. There simply was no other option left to them but to do what was essentially a mercy killing. Carol loved those little girls and lost them both. It's soul gutting that Carol and Tyrese had to make the toughest decision possible. I think he was able to forgive Carol for the other deaths because he had just had to come to an even more crushing decision about Lizzie and how sacrificing her life seemed the only path forward. That made him understand how Carol had felt at the prison when she feared the illness was going to kill everyone if she didn't act. Just so, so sad.

[@orkiso1]

Love this episode. Carol is such a strong character.

[@sword567PL]

She is OP

[@frozenpiper2]

I've been waiting on this episode, its definitely one of the best in the series. I remember the horror I felt when Lizzie killed Mika and the agony of knowing that killing her was the only thing that could be done. She couldn't stay with the group because she might do the same to one if not all of them. We know she was definitely going to do it to Judith. Such a heartbreaking episode but one of my favorites as well.

[@theecstaticinfidelhypothes9222]

I've been waiting for Lacey and Steve (Steve and Lacey) to react to this one since they started TWD. Easily my favorite episode of the entire series-- powerful, gripping, well-shot, with great acting and character development. There are not many things that have ever been shown on TV that can do what this episode does. I often hold "The Grove" up as an example of what great television looks like. And it's not just good to look at the first time; this one will stay with you. Even though it has been years since it first aired, sometimes I still find myself thinking about "The Grove." Dark as hell, but great story-telling.

[@lmj2k]

This is another episode where I was waiting on your reaction for. What a rough episode. Mental health treatment is an oft-discussed topic these days in our current world, and Lizzie is probably the first explored case of someone in this show who had signs of serious mental illness before the turn. We know that Lizzie clearly had some issues before the turn, and was perhaps being regularly treated...but could her condition have been exacerbated by the events of the turn? We see where people have had some mental breakdowns brought on by traumatic events after the turn, but had no sign of any mental illness before the turn. It does make me wonder about what would happen to people with a range of mental health issues in the Walking Dead universe. But on thinking about it, having the show runners plumb further into that territory would be a huge risk and sure to get backlash if it weren’t handled well. This plot line with Lizzie was harsh and controversial enough. I don’t think Carol necessarily *wanted* to die by telling Tyreese to do what he will after she confessed to killing Karen and David. I think that she knew that she couldn’t keep on hiding that fact from him, and she had accepted that he might kill her. Remember, she was there when Tyreese went nuts in his grief and got into a fistfight with Rick. She saw what he did when someone was trying to talk him down. She couldn’t keep as much of a distance from him after Lizzie and Mika (sp?) died. Carol could talk to the two girls, guide them, do some tasks with them, and essentially use them as a buffer. Tyreese made Carol uncomfortable the few times they were doing stuff without the girls around. Her buffer was gone, and the guilt was getting to her, so it became time to unburden herself.

[@dragonslayer2565]

I know this is a late comment but what do you mean by huge risk and backlash

[@lmj2k]

@@dragonslayer2565 Only that handling a fictional plot line about mental illness has to be handled tastefully without it becoming a mockery.

[@grubbyD]

The Grove on a Friday morning. Never clicked a video faster. I should be working but let's duo it

[@Dularr]

Team Carol. What an amazing character.

[@wendyfarrell7083]

Can I just say I thought those girls did a pretty bang up job. BTW Tyresse is a legend, forgiving Carl like that. RIP Mika I actually really liked her and thought she could grow to survive this world if not for Lizzie. I feel horrible for Carol and Lizzie the saddest thing is she didn't understand what she had truly done. She didn't kill her sister out of pleasure or anything she doesn't think she has killed her sister.

[@angeltriggercolores5255]

This episode shows the absolute strength of Carol. The heart of Tyrese. Micah reminded Carol of Sophia.. it was like losing Sophia all over again.. the acting in this episode was completely AMAZING!!! Great reaction as always!! 💜

[@DuoReacts]

Angel Colores aril so amazing. She just rose in my ranks huge! Steve

[@iml3104]

playing tag at a barn Steve is brutal

[@GLITCHED1]

This saddens me so much. Just the fact that Lizzie had no idea she did anything wrong and her being too little to be able to explain it to her well enough so she could understand. I could have never made the choice Carol made even if I know it was the right one

[@joselang5615]

Just a heads up **for those who are fully caught up**, season 10 starts on Sunday night on amc, make sure to tune in live!

[@cfinley81]

I can't wait!!

[@orkiso1]

The premiere is already out

[@joselang5615]

cullen bloodstone not everybody has amc premiere, besides wanna watch it live so the live viewership is high

[@lollypop2414]

My birthday present!! Can't wait! I've heard from those who have seen it already that it was pretty good.

[@frozenpiper2]

One of the local theaters airs it live so I'll be there watching.

[@DMSpikes1987]

THIS is what I waited all morning for!

[@jpwphoenix1701]

This episode is definitely one of the most shocking and emotional ones. The show's never shy about killing off kids just to prove how awful the post-apocalyptic world is. You do feel sorry for Carol though, as she has a bad track record when it comes to kids. Still, incredible acting from all the actors in this episode.

[@nykolasreded]

It's been almost 6 years and this episode still makes me feel so... empty. Poor Carol.

[@thangngudxop]

Stuffs to think about by the end of this episode. Carol's especially, it's Karma, she killed Karen and David for the sake of others, now she has to kill Lizzie, who's like her daughter for the same reason. The scene with her and Lizzie looking at the flower, look like a normal parent-to-child punishment when the child did something bad and the adult need to teach them the hard way. Make you feel for Carol, by doing what she's about to do, she reached the point that can never come back from, and it'll haunt her forever.

[@nobodyimportant2999]

To me this episode is so important because it encapsulates why the walking dead is so powerful. It makes us justify things we never thought we would, I mean Lizzie was just a child. As the moral boundaries of the characters change, ours do to, and that’s what makes this show so incredible as we change how we see things as though we are in that world ourselves

[@pikomonde3933]

Carol had a daughter, she's dead of a walker. Carol had 2 daughters, both killed by people. Poor Carol.

[@pyr1412]

When Mika and Tyreese said that the five of them could live the rest of their lives in that house. I knew something was going to go horribly wrong. I remember watching this w/ my dad who loves this show as much as I do but he found this episode really dark which it’s supposed to be b/c through all of this Tyreese learns after Lizzie dies about the truth about Karen and David and Carol is fully ready to be killed by Tyreese since she just lost Lizzie and Mika and I remember thinking that Tyreese was gonna actually kill her but when he didn’t I was happy.

[@lazerx1828]

There are a couple of iconic episodes that stick with you forever, this was one of them. RIP girls.

[@АлексейЗаботкий]

One of the best and deep episodes in this show, you can just show it to anyone outside of tv show and it will be like strong emotional movie

[@OneDarkMartian]

Such an amazing episode. So deep and emotional. Incredible performances throughout but Melissa's nuanced performance here is impeccable. Carol is becoming one of the toughest, strongest characters. When you consider how she was in seasons 1 and 2 to now... amazing character arc.

[@NeuroticNicky87]

Carol had no choice. She couldn't leave with Lizzie because Lizzie might kill her in her sleep and then end up killing more if she come across another group who took her in because she was a child. She was too dangerous to stay with them. Tyreese isn't mentally strong enough to kill a child even if she was trying to kill him and what if she took out Carol first? Neither of them are psychologists and even if they knew what mental illness Lizzie had there's no way they would know how to treat it and could you really trust that the drugs would work? A psychologist said that she wasn't psychotic and didn't in fact have any mental illness which I disagree with. I think maybe she had early onset schizophrenia, she claimed to be able to hear the walkers talking to her. Even if she had no diagnosed mental illness, she was too dangerous to have around. The problem being that psychopaths can mimic and even pretend to portray emotions at the right time, most are aware that this isn't normal behaviour and can mask it, so it's quite rare that psychopaths kill people. It seems to me Lizzie was more sociopathic, they have extreme anti-social tendancies and find it hard to empathise and show the correct emotions at the proper times.

[@thunderthumbs697]

She hated seeing the walkers dying because they were "different." She was different. Special. She thought it was the same or similar, killing walkers and killing someone like her.

[@russellballard6473]

Lizzy, Carol, Mika, ty all had A1 acting this episode.

[@schlock159]

Shocking and dark episode wasn't it ??. In the moment where Tyreese forgives Carol his thoughts are: "what right do I have to Judge this woman after she went through this horrible thing and had to commit this terrible act". His own grief of Karen doesn't even compare to having to kill a child which is why he forgives her. Beautiful isn't it ??

[@SmokeRingHalo]

Props to Melissa McBride for putting the emotion into this amazing episode! I remember how shocking this episode was back when it first aired.

[@DuoReacts]

Damnit Steve LOL Melissa Mcbride is Carol!!!! LOL ~ Lacey

[@qwertymanor]

Just look at the flowers

[@memitaylor4323]

One of the best acting episodes, yes☝🏾

[@deshawnglosson6275]

Dang yall we made it to the flowers..if someone ask u to look at the flowers say hell naw..everyone stay safe and blessed much love from San Antonio

[@richardw4336]

Such a hard episode but it is what makes TWD such brilliant TV. Poor Lizzi and Mika. What do you do when anyone in this world is dangerously psychotic? Lizzi was very ill and needed a lot of therapy in a special kind of hospital but that's not available and she is obviously dangerous, just how dangerous is found out too late for Mika. Again TWD poses questions and gets us all talking. Great reaction as always.

[@Buggaboo222]

I know this is two years old, so u guys probably won’t see this lmao but I love ur reactions to this episode! When I first watched it, I felt so bad for Lizzie. At the end of the day, she was a child suffering from bad mental issues. What sucks the most is that, if the apocalypse didn’t happen, Lizzie most likely would of gotten the treatment she needed and was able to live a normal happy live. It’s easy to become mad at Lizzie’s actions, I mean she literally killed her sister, but in her mind she seriously didn’t think what she did was bad. She was so mentally sick she thought Carol was mad at pointing her gun at her. That’s what makes it so hard to be mad at her for me. It’d be different if she knew her actions were bad, and did it anyway. But she just didn’t understand. It’s kinda like having a toddler not understanding the consequences of running with scissors. The actor who played her did a phenomenal job.

[@kimnes4935]

One thing I learned from the TWD is that these people do not know how to look after their kids😂

[@pratikmandal2450]

First of when I completed the 1st season I never thought this show became this much darker. I mean when sofia died I thought okay they had nothing to do what already have been done.but in the episode too far gone and this episode!!!!man this season have became too tough to watch for!!! And duoreacts you guys are just awesome!!! whenever I completed an episode I came on KZbin and watch your reaction!!! You guys really have done a very good job in these reactions!!! I'm a big fan of you guys!! Keep it up and make such good videos!!!

[@bweany91]

yepp and it keeps getting darker ahah so get ready buddy

[@pratikmandal2450]

@@bweany91 yeah I have completed season 6 and now watching season 7 and I thought previously the governor is the one badass villain in the series,but when in the last ep of s6 negan arrives!!!! Man now looks like governor is nothing in compare to him!! I am just wondering how stupid I was when I start watching season 1 and thought it ends in a happy ending!!!!

[@bweany91]

​@@pratikmandal2450 ahaha damn you watched like 3 seasons within a week, im very proud but yeah ikr ahah negan is really scary, just wait till you get to season 9 and 10, they are sooo amazing too!! i wont spoil it tho

[@darrellwood3913]

I’ve been patiently waiting for this episode.One of my top 3 TWD episodes.Great acting and great story.

[@amyfender1]

Tyrese had just watched Carol kill Lizzie because "she couldn't be around other people". She was a threat to anyone who may end up being with her. He saw how much Carol loved both of those girls. And he saw how broken she was because she had no choice but to kill Lizzie even though she desperately didn't want to. I think seeing all of that gave Tyrese a completely different understanding of Carol and he was able to understand why she killed Karen and David even though she didn't want to. He still doesn't think it was right I imagine, but he gets why Carol thought it was right. Heartbreaking episode. Very scary for completely different reasons. Can you just imagine the field day that serial killers and psychopaths could have during an apocalypse!!?? No one to have to answer to. Just lots and lots of people to kill! Great reactions as always

[@shanechipman7157]

People have to understand you can’t reason with someone like Lizzie and she’s just a kid. My dad was a cop and he told me there was several cases where he had to deal with people with mental illness similar to Lizzie and he said you can’t reason with them the same way you can with a normal person. If you try to do that it will make the situation 10x worse you have to approach them with their “logic” to safely deescalate the situation. Unfortunately sometimes people are just unfortunate and born with a mental illness and they literally can’t help it and usually need medicine to make it at least manageable. With that said I completely understand people being so filled with pure rage at seeing a child die in such a disturbing way to another child that you want to strangle Lizzie but she’s just a kid man people have to remind themselves of that. Everyone agrees that Lizzie had to be killed after this I’m not arguing that, she was too much of a danger to herself and family but I don’t agree with people saying that they would “beat the shit out of Lizzie” when even Lizzie is incapable of understanding what she has truly done.

[@Nick_Barone]

Lacey- “ Just look at the flowers Steve, just look at the flowers “

[@purpleassasin]

The funny thing to me is that scene where Judith is with the little girls and the walker comes out, the actual baby is probably like what the crap is happening

[@timothybrown2907]

One of the best things about this show is it asks you the question what would you do in that situation I honestly don’t know what I would do

[@DuoReacts]

timothy brown Timothy I have to say I’m that situation Carol did what she had to do. I don’t see any other options. Sweet kids but one had mental issues and there were no options in this world. Ughh Steve

[@imnotthefathericanproveit98]

I remember AMC hired psychologist on set to help the actors and actresses, this show can be heavy at times

[@gravitypronepart2201]

I can't imagine what Carol was feeling. First, losing her daughter, seeing her put down, then committing to care for Lizzy and Mika, then teaching knife skills to the kids, including Lizzie, then realizing that Lizzie had use a knife to kill her little sister. Then she had to kill Lizzy. Oh my goodness she must have struggled just to keep from going insane.

[@hybridprepper9]

One of the toughest episodes to watch. Absolutely heartbreaking!

[@peggykunkel9180]

I was looking forward and dreading this episode for your reactions. You both feel so much for the characters but understand the new world they live in. It is such a disturbing episode. I love to watch your analysis of everything that did happen and what could have happened.

[@rinafilya]

This is my favorite episode of TWD! So powerful. I have goosebumps every single time... I was really looking forward to your reaction, thank you very much guys!

[@Piggeh603]

I'm so mad I had to wait till I got home a 5:30 from work to finally watch you guys react to this episode. It's truly one of the hardest episodes to watch emotionally. Also Steve as a Raiders fan Im triggered by your jersey...

[@DuoReacts]

Piggeh603 Thanks for the comment. Hey respect to you for being a Raiders fan. It wasn’t your fault someone let Mack go. Mack has done nothing but great things for Chicago since being here and it’s sad the organization let you fans down on that mistake. Hell if I owned the Raiders that deal would NEVER have happened. We play this Sunday Bears Raiders and good luck this weekend and much love. Steve

[@Piggeh603]

@@DuoReacts Yeah Mack is not only a future hall of famer, but he's a great guy and teammate as well. Anyways, I wish the best of luck to the Bears the rest of the season and you two keep up the amazing work. You are genuinely the best reactors I've ever seen and much love right back at the both of ya

[@enildacoreyhaim]

The most talked about episode. And it got Carol/Melissa McBride a nomination for People's Choice award.

[@maxinem3565]

Your predictions are awesome Steve. Steve said in an earlier video that maybe Carol could take Lizzy with her--I was wondering how that scene where Carol says that really hit him as he was thinking the same thing. When I watched the scene with Tyreese forgiving Carol I burst into tears because it was so merciful in a world where mercy is now killing a child. It was so sad. Love, love your reactions.

[@DuoReacts]

Maxine M Oh it absolutely did. Your observant! Thanks So Much Steve

[@penguinsfan9192]

One of the best pieces of television I have ever experienced. I wasn’t right for days after this episode.

[@lombax316]

1)To really hammer home the heaviness of this episode, the puzzle the girls are working on is actually a picture of Sophia. 2)Mika telling Lizzie to "look at the flowers" is a huge foreshadowing since the beginning. It references how Of Mice and Men's George would tell Lennie to "look at the rabbits" and the ultimate heartbreaking sacrifice that had to happen in the end. 3)The deer is a throwback to Carl. They represent purity and innocence in this dark world. 4)Tyreese ultimately forgiving Carol couldn't have happened if they didn't just experience the devastating events of The Grove.

[@DuoReacts]

Thank you Daniel!! I love the little facts you provided! ~ Lacey

[@sagespath6112]

I can’t help but cry every time carol does lol idk why

[@zombie8079]

This is for sure one of the greatest episodes of TWD! Melissa's acting on this episode was amazing! Always love how real your reactions are guys 😄

[@DuoReacts]

Zombie80 not sure who Melissa is but this episode so hard to watch and swallow that bitter pill. Steve

[@zombie8079]

@@DuoReacts Melissa is Carol. And yes I agree but it's still so well acted by everyone and important to Carol's story!

[@cecillegravelle2590]

interesting thing in the show is the puzzle they were making was a picture of sophia.

[@andimusicjunkie3990]

Wow, first time first.. I was so looking forward to seeing your reactions to this episode. One of the most memorable episodes of TWD..

[@simounmarsada9226]

It's not the "Look at the flowers" scene that made this episode for me, it's actually Carol's confession to Tyresee. It's poetic, climactic and just well-written and acted. And if you do not know already the puzzle in the table when completed is a picture of Sophia.

[@aracelikiwrna5778]

Tragic. Just tragic. To this very day, Mika's death is sad and heartbreaking. I will always shed tears for this little girl. She was good, sweet and kind. And it also makes me really sad about Lizzie. To see a child not mentally all there is just sad. And then there's Carol who's also reached a point where she no longer wants to live. This world has taken a toll on her because of the things she's done voluntarily. Carol's taking all of that in, weighing heavily on her soul and her conscience, and that's why she tells Tyreese she killed Karen and David. She feels guilty and believes she deserves to die. She's had enough. Like I said, each episode has been one hit after another. Just like a domino effect. And you understood what that fire off in the distance meant. You're getting an understanding of where the characters are at and at what time all of this is occurring. You know which group came before the others. As you saw at the end of this episode, Carol and Tyreese took the train tracks. Maybe the ones who took Beth are at Terminus?? This episode is one of the most memorable ones on the show. Now you know what The Grove is about. I remember how shocked I was seeing Lizzie standing there with bloody hands, Mika's body on the ground and that close-up shot of the bloody knife with Judith in the back. It had me scared for Judith. Such a chilling moment. But overall, sadness overcame me. That's why whenever I see the title to this episode, I get this awful heavy feeling inside. For reals though, one of the heaviest episodes up to this point. RIP Mika and Lizzie. - Yvette

[@kylenoble5024]

See the thing is, is that her acting is phenomenal the way she zones out and the part when she freaks out at carol was perfect and made you afraid and angry at her...she really played a great part on this show...plenty more amazing episodes to come can't wait for your reaction the season 4 finale is a really good one🔥

[@cindywollner4453]

I knew this episode was next and Lacey's eyes said it all

[@sherryclark2552]

Melissa McBride should have gotten an Emmy for this episode.

[@doorattachment6926]

This was one of the best episodes of TWD. People hated Carol after this but I love her more. It shows you she can do what bo one else is able to do to protect the one's closest to her

[@donfette5301]

Bullshit. “People” = “they are doing X.” Stop it. Nobody hated Carol for this. 😆

[@doorattachment6926]

@@donfette5301 alot of people did they called her a monster and every bad name under the sun. She did what she did to survive and I definitely don't blame her she's the best in the show

[@sydIRISH]

The special FX were done by KNB FX. The "N" is Greg Nocotero...he was Tom Savini's assistant. Tom Savini is the "godfather of gore". Savini's wrok includes Friday the 13th parts 1 and 4. He also did the FX for George A. Romero on "Dawn of the Dead" and "Day of the Dead".

[@charsmith8646]

such an impactful and emotional episode with amazing acting on behalf of all actors. INCREDIBLE!

[@mikefreeman8024]

So guys This was the episode that my mother(my walking dead partner) god rest her soul i love u mama And i saw at our first ever convention In 2014 walker stalker chicago It was a watch party at the bar in the host hotel of convention center and all the people watching were incredibly emotional during this episode we were all in shock a bit And the following year my mother and i went to our second walker stalker chicago and got The grove photo op With tyreese Carol Mika and lizzie I wish i could show yall my photos and my the grove painting i painted for my mothers birthday .. The walking dead is huge for me for alot of reasons and the big one is because i had something cool and special with my mother and we didnt have alot of that before the walking dead came .. Twd means alot to me it really does

[@amyfender1]

It is so wonderful that you and your mom shared something that was so special to both of you 💓 I am happy to hear that y'all were able to go to the walker stalkers etc. I'm sorry that she passed. I hope that you are finding joy and comfort in your special memories. And man, what a cool, awesome mom to love TWD right along beside you 💙

[@mikefreeman8024]

@@amyfender1 thank u :) she was cool ...:)

[@DuoReacts]

God Bless you and glad you spent that time with her. Hope Amazing Happens to You and thanks for watching our video. Steve

[@MK-lb3oc]

Lizzie's death was foreshadowed as early as episode 2 of this season. When Carol killed the girls' father from getting bitten in the back of the neck when the flu broke out in the prison, Lizzie was told to look the other way at the flowers in the jail cell, while Carol did the deed.

[@orkiso1]

Matthew Kelso Mate. It's not that deep. They adapted a storyline from the comics.

[@trevl8955]

@@orkiso1 It's also not an example of foreshadowing by definition.

[@April442255]

I saw the title and screamed. I love watching people watch this episode and not a lot of channels covered this far back of TWD!!

[@dansreviews5574]

Crazy episode!!! Great reaction guys!!

[@zzzroxyzzz]

lol season 1 episode 1 Rick shoots the walker that's a little girl, Steve says woah I'm not about that... Steve now... I can't believe I'm thinking this way... lol

[@bweany91]

lmaoo

[@HeathenMaiden]

A grove is a group of trees growing close together (but usually without bushes and stuff underneath them), kind of like a small open woodland area or even an orchard.

[@jpetersgoyanks]

Lizzy’s brain doesn’t process information correctly, it’s not her fault. As mad as people get at her, and that’s valid, ultimately Lizzy is not at fault and as much a victim of this new world as her sister who couldn’t kill. It’s one of the great agonies of this life.