The weeCee: A Tiny New MS-DOS & Windows Gaming PC!

[@TheRasteri]

Excellent video, I knew you'd cover it thoroughly :) I'd love to commercialize these but the price point would be too high (likely >$600) and people would expect a much more polished product for that kind of money. I'm open to suggestions though.

[@EC18FEA30B]

Count me in for ~$600! :)

[@kjrchannel1480]

If people could stop those heartless scrappers out there, we could put the early CPU's to use. Maybe make a mini-itx socket 7, or the like. At that price an odroid h2+ if they are ever able to make anymore would be cheaper than $600 obviously.

[@grahamc87]

Hopefully LGR pins this up top. After scrolling just a tiny bit to see several expected comments on where or how to buy one from people who probably did not watch the full video or have a look at the BOM you openly posted, I’m glad you said something. The BOM alone is ~$350. This isn’t a Raspberry Pi and absolutely isn’t in Raspberry Pi pricing territory. I hope others watch your videos on the device and appreciate the work that went into it and especially appreciate that you released the BOM and gerbers publicly. To those asking to buy one assembled as the design currently stands; Would you happily part ways with $650 for it?

[@AlejandroRodolfoMendez]

Excellent work. Is any way of doing one with CF cards? For dos are more reliable than SD.

[@Dizzykitty817]

Hey, great work! Projects like these are really inspiring.

[@ICOPTechnologyIncWalnut]

This is awesome! Just wanted to say thanks for shining a spotlight on this project and how much we appreciate you displaying the capabilities of our SOM. We're always working on making improvements and hopefully you'll see more of our stuff in the future!

[@asteroidrules]

I'm curious now if you or any other industrial SOM manufacturer have ever considered selling these units for consumer use. I assume the market would be a bit niche but there are quite a few people who are interested in keeping legacy hardware/software running.

[@DarkestAngel2ndCh]

Should have made it so people could buy them, I'd buy 10 today, I know plenty of people who would love this system

[@canalRetro269]

@@asteroidrules In my case the interest is to make a cheap computer for emergencies (low power, small, fast boot, modular). I use today the LilyGo TTGO VGA32 with PC/XT emulator (PCEmulator Plus).

[@AgentWaltonSimons]

Blows my mind seeing all that *hand soldered* SMT work. That's a sign of some serious dedication, or an unhinged mind. Possibly both.

[@pseudotasuki]

Noticed that, too. It's a (late) prototype, though. If production units are still hand-soldered, it's definitely both. Edit: Oh poo, these aren't gonna be produced! Just a project for people who are comfortable with doing SMC soldering, I guess.

[@pacman10182]

@@pseudotasuki you can have the board house do assembly...

[@nosrepa]

So, Ben Heck?

[@charlesjmouse]

I fully get your feelings on the subject - I tend to design with through-hole components because nobody would make my stuff if I used SMT... and it's not very 'retro'. But FWLIW SMT soldering isn't difficult at all; it just requires a different 'philosophy'. ie: Use loads of flux, splash the solder all over, and clean the bridges after. Once you get the hang of using surface tension to your advantage you'll be good.

[@Lauren_C]

Having watched a metric ton of Louis Rossmann over the years, I strangely had an easier time learning SMT soldering than Through-Hole for my J-STD.

[@AlanpittsS2b]

I’m 33 born in 1990. I know nothing about computers but I like this channel cause it reminds me of being a kid. My dad owned a computer repair business from home and I remember playing with all these games and old tech. Great stuff. So many times I watch lgr and am reminded of something I would have never thought about.

[@midimusicforever]

"General MIDI support" COUNT ME IN!

[@scruffythejanitor1969]

If you're in, I'm in.

[@Coolman13355]

*Reads comment, and then sees username and icon.

[@JB-mm5ff]

I've still got my FL Studio 3.0 installer lying around somewhere. :D

[@Sun-ut9gr]

@@scruffythejanitor1969 If Scruffy's in, I'm in too.

[@crunkybrewster]

This thing was my Shower Thoughts for years. A literal small DosBox in a sense, but all hardware based. So damn cool, I want one.

[@Mr.Trololo]

i love the "[wee bits of jazz music playing]" at the beginning subtitles

[@frostech3149]

as well, only us people who use subtitles shall ever know

[@RobColbert]

Your videos are superb. The lighting in the "blue" shot where you've dimmed the room and are using blue accent lighting that matches the DOS screen presenting on a 4:3 CRT is print worthy. Your careful and thoughtful presentation of an era I lived through as a developer is appreciated. Please keep making videos. You are presenting the years I loved most very accurately and with correct information.

[@DanVasc]

This is awesome!

[@An_aviator]

Ikr

[@hauslerful]

My KZbin bubble surprises me every day. Had no idea that Dan is watching LGR 😀

[@c31979839]

@@hauslerful I just assume everyone watches LGR! Haha who wouldn't be subscribed to LGR.

[@werc85music]

🤘🏻

[@ninjamimealt]

Haha Dan Vasc is a LGR fan, that's awesome!

[@endarion1904]

Amazing! Being a blind gamer in love with text adventures, I'd love to see a retro speech synthesizer on board that can be driven by one of the original DOS screen readers such as ASAP or HAL. What do you folks think?

[@dogmander]

Sure, something like this would probably be perfect for doing that kinda stuff

[@VShuricK]

look for MiSTer fpga project

[@hannaha.2246]

So, this is actually an interesting idea! The weeCee actually has a bunch of GPIO ports that can talk across SPI/I2C to various devices. If you had a device that could do the text to speech that talked across such lines, you could probably do this.

[@Lachlant1984]

Hmm, I wonder if RC Systems still make any of the DoubleTalk chips that were used in a lot of products, I know they were still making them in the mid 200s because the BookPort used a DoubleTalk chip.

[@leobest5985]

this is one of the few things that i'd say is a perfect example of what kickstarter is for. there is no doubt a market for this device if you could actually keep the price point at the 600 dollar mark assembled and ready to go, you'd do very well with it. and, as someone said earlier, it may allow you to buy parts at bulk prices. i wish you well. we need more brains like the one you're walkin around with. :)

[@ProtoMario]

Could become the next MS Dos mini

[@DECIMALPOINT1]

ok

[@SabretoothBarnacle]

One of these with a floppy and IDE/MFM interfaces in a tiny retro style case would make my inner 90s child happy.

[@Daehawk]

Could shove it into a case wit ha Genesis and SNES and 2600 combo.

[@volvo09]

I would love to build a mini PC using one of those little CF slot hard drives (microdrives, or whatever the real name is). I have a few of them awaiting such a project some day. For me, a true retro PC has to have spinning disk main storage! Flash is very convenient, but lacks the authenticity of mechanical disks.

[@superchiaki]

1. search and buy a used PC104 or Picmg STPC SBC (i think ST still produce this 100% compatible 486DX SoC) 2. use a old ISA risercard as poormans backplane and put MFM and SouNdBLASTER) 3. ???? 4. game like 1994 wiithout this LPC rubbiish

[@nickwallette6201]

It’s my life goal to build a to-scale PC mini tower with an FPGA motherboard, and an honest to gosh mini ISA bus for repro add-in cards.

[@squirlmy]

MFM and MFM/RLL were 90s technology, you young whippersnapper!

[@itstheweirdguy]

This is probably the most impressive mini pc youtube video i've seen in some time! It has impressive software mode performance where it works!

[@rerez]

This looks really cool!

[@frostech3149]

you need to start a "best ever" series rerez

[@mischiefthedegenerateratto7464]

@@frostech3149 they literally have learn to read

[@haonghephu4895]

@Rerez You should review this product.

[@ongakuwotabeta]

@@mischiefthedegenerateratto7464 I think he means “just good systems”

[@Wtfinc]

like the $180 for one SOM304RD-IV type of cool? idk

[@Batistadx4]

I'd love something like a weeCee for games released in the XP era - think Quake 2 to like, 2006, 2007. Probably not as easy since tech got much more varied in that time period, but it'd be super cool. The closest is a micro PC like a GPD Win 2.

[@srpenguinbr]

Is there a processor so powerful in a small form factor? How does a raspberry pi compare to a classic pentium?

[@camthesaxman3387]

Look for some late 2000s thin clients. Many of them can run XP and have a few expansion slots.

[@MaraIndigoJade]

I don't think the problem would be finding a CPU so much as dealing with the 3D accelerator (GPU) issue. weeCee tackles games from before and slightly after 3D accelerators came up, so software rendering was still a pretty commonplace option in games. When you get to the late 98SE to the WinXP era and beyond, GPU's became mandatory and software rendering wasn't much an option if it was there at all. Much like sound cards. After, say, 2006, sound cards all but disappeared except for the hobby market. The industry decided to include audio on-board, for better or worse. At first, it was horrible with quirks and bugs and sometimes horrible output but as time went on, it came into it's own and dedicated sound cards became a niche market like they are now. To build something that would play games from the late 90's to mid 2000's, say the time frame from the first Half-life to the second Half-Life, you'd need a CPU that had 3D on-board. Now way back, there was a short period of time that nVidia put out it's own boards with an nVidia GPU already on it. Sure, you're getting a GPU for the cost of the board but then you were stuck with that GPU forever, you couldn't upgrade it to my knowledge. Something like >that< would be ideal for a project like this. It would take a lot of work and tracking down useable and freely available parts to get something like that off the ground but it could be possible.

[@camthesaxman3387]

@@MaraIndigoJade There are some thin clients with a single AGP or PCI slot.

[@thekillerprawn]

Steam deck?

[@scruffythejanitor1969]

I have an old square flat panel monitor.I could rig this to the back and have a retro system that doesn't require any real additional storage space. I would LOVE a commercial version of this....

[@squirlmy]

Why? I'd rather support an independent maker with a small company. Srsly, why do you think this isn't out already on the market? It's because it's not profitable enough, and requires someone with love of games to make from scratch. What you said is like sampling cookies from someone's grandma and saying "Oh, I'd LOVE a commercial version of these cookies!"

[@WillParker322]

@@squirlmy commercial as in being sold... chill bud.

[@jaecenwhite2590]

@@squirlmy "independent maker with a small company" IS a commercial version. Hence "company". Company...commerce...commercial. I think you may have an incorrect definition for what "commercial" means

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

The fact that it starts without any noise is almost scary XD

[@jpxdude]

Been following TheRasteri and this project for a while, and it is soooo exciting! Nice to see it getting more exposure on LGR. I hope someone can make/sell these as I keep throwing money at the screen and nothing is happening.

[@TheMrJamu]

Interesting project. It really needs the pc-beeper for DOS games.

[@robertoaguiar6230]

If it were comercial it would certainly have it

[@MsSovereign1214]

Yea big one top of it

[@xiaochicash]

The hilarious thing is that tiny pc beeper would account for a third of the overall footprint. XD

[@TheMrJamu]

@@xiaochicash :D OR you just put the beeper connector to motherboard and plug the cable to soundcards input. Problem solved :) I remember doing this back in the 486 days.

[@hannaha.2246]

Funny enough the PC speaker output is directly wired into the audio chip on its Mono input channel. I think LGR may of just simply had inadvertently muted that channel. Easy to do. Adding a PC beeper wouldn’t be hard though, there are pins on the side along with the RTC CMOS battery that are specifically for this.

[@MikeBehrensWX]

I would 100% be in the market for a retro 98 pc that could play most all 90s and dos games well. Something that doesn't require tracking down old and used parts.

[@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial]

This looks just like a tracking modem we used to use in our truck fleet in the early 2010’s. Crazy what we can fit into small cases these days

[@TechfulThinking]

11:26 Holy sh*t; I haven’t heard anyone talk about Descent since- well, probably 1998 😅 Seeing it on screen again was also an unexpected, yet very welcome treat. This is why I watch LGR videos all the way through ✌️😁

[@roterodamus]

The Rasteri is the dude that designed portable scratch turntables. the man is a legend!

[@Xaltar_]

Big fan of TheRasteri's channel and his Wee Cee/Wee 86 builds. I would say, for a tech junkie with a modicum of tech savvy, projects like this are well worth the effort and cost. For the retro enthusiast, the $600 estimate TheRasteri gave for a completed unit is not unreasonable. The major reason I feel it's a reasonable price point is because it's all new hardware, no recapping, no compatibility issues (hardware wise) and it just works out the box with any number of 80's - mid to late 90's games. Just a few tweaks in the BIOS and all but the most particular 4.77mhz requiring DOS games will run just fine on it. No emulation, no lag, all you need in one tiny little box you can take anywhere with you. For those not able to shell out that much, well, there is the used market where you can pick up older, used SoMs for a fair bit less. Making your own PCB to mount it on containing all the features you need will take some doing however. Fortunately, in this day and age, odds are, someone has already uploaded schematics for just the thing you need somewhere.

[@GaryStewart2020]

This is fantastic. It would be fun if there was a wired in speaker that during the boot up process made the beeps and whirls of cd/floppy drives. It might sound hollow, but would be fun.

[@texaswilliam]

Just a POST beep would be fine with me. : P

[@TheLightningStalker]

Pin 60 is marked SPEAKER in the SOM304 system development user manual and on the dev board. It would be odd if it was not included since the PC speaker is sometimes needed in industrial applications.

[@alexandrecouture2462]

An idea that I had was the reverse, but for vintage laptops or desktops. Imagine a PCMCIA card with an ethernet adapter and a Raspberry Pi Zero. You could use VNC viewer to log in it and have access to modern internet on a vintage laptop.

[@eDoc2020]

I've thought about cards like that as well. I don't think it would be _too_ difficult to design an ISA card whose functions are all controlled by a modern MCU.

[@janekmorel]

This is so close to greatness. A miniature Pentium 2 with 64MB RAM and 8MB 3D accelerated graphics would make an excellent nostalgia PC.

[@Bandrik]

I've always loved LGR's upbeat positivity. What a wholesome guy.

[@LRM12o8]

Maaan, I wish I could buy one. I've become so frustrated with hardware keeping breaking on my retro PC (which is wall-mounted on a wooden board made specifically for the components I had at hand, so swapping out broken parts is *really* annoying) and I haven't had the time to fix in more than a year now, so this looks like it would be a better experience. Also it running Windows 98 with period appropriate hardware is great. My retro PC runs XP on slightly newer HW, so I haven't even been able to play all retro games, like NfS II and Star Wars Podracer on it.

[@burtpanzer]

Could your hardware issues be due to improper cooling? Apart from the CPU, other components may benefit from cross ventilation that was being provided by the enclosure's case fans.

[@LRM12o8]

@@burtpanzer Yeah, I guess that could be the issue. I never thought about that, but the CPU cooler is a tower and the GPU doesn't provide airflow to any components either. Thanks for the tip! The main issue is the GPU though. I had a GTX 285 which was overheating and shutting down within a few minutes of gaming when I got it. Cleaned it and replaced the thermal paste and got it back running, but unfortunately I didn't swap the themal pads, so after a year or two it burned out its memory and VRM modules. Since I built the wall mount around the hardware I had lying around, I needed to replace it with the same model GPU, but I bought two and both had the same problem, despite being sold as working and replacing thermal pads didn't save em. Tried treating one with heat, and did get an output, but the fan stopped running. But the Mainboard could have problems due to no airflow. Though I'm not entirely sure, if it's broken or not. One of the boards I have likes to have glitches and freeze in BIOS when using the on board graphics, the other one might be fine tho. In any case I'm done with the GTX 285, that card has a fatal flaw. So I'll need a different solution for a case (don't want to towers under my desk though) and need to get a guaranteed good GPU from somewhere. Not gonna buy on off eBay anymore. It's gonna be a project for my next time off ^^

[@ryanmalin]

@@burtpanzer my retro pc doesnt even have a heatsync on the cpu! and no fan either. No heat issues.

[@jacobrodgers2700]

I love all the retro computers that have been popping up over the years! The reason I feel so interested in this one is, it's finally made for games that I grew up with as a kid born in the early 90s. Things like the ZX Spectrum Next are cool and all, but they don't suit my nostalgia because I never had computers from that era to begin with.

[@mrvellu]

i don't know if it's just me but with emulation and solid state systems i miss the sounds old computers make: flick of the AT power switch, fan and harddrive slowly starting to spin, CRT degauss, POST beep from the pc speaker, floppy drive initialization and harddrive read and write sounds. These need emulation!

[@nullplan01]

Yeah, and add an option for the 15kHz sound the CRT is making all the time while you're at it.

[@shapesinaframe]

I completely forgot about the degaussing sound!

[@keithkelly5692]

WinUAE emulates floppy drive sounds exactly for this reason. A lot of those subtle sounds aren't just for the sake of nostalgia -- in many cases they were the only feedback you got that the system was actually doing anything.

[@sosemiteyam562]

Complete the package with dial-up tones and g2g!

[@JelloFluoride]

WOW when you booted it up, my brain filled the silence with all the familiar beeps and hard disk noise.

[@DrLilo]

I love this. Since it's not available for purchase, I'll stick with the MiSTer ao486 core, but I love that we're starting to see options like this.

[@calzonemaniacsvideocorner0804]

Very interesting. Can't wait to see how the project will evolve in the years to come. I hope you're taking LGR's feedback to heart and working on a way to improve these.

[@The8bitbeard]

"Speaking for myself; I wouldn't mind a couple extra inches if it made things that much more useful." - Clint.

[@ironcito1101]

A couple extra inches would make the device more enjoyable to use.

[@benbrist]

A couple extra inches of floppy

[@bdwilcox]

That's literally what she said.

[@bdwilcox]

@@benbrist Hard disk, my friend, hard disk. Floppy only looks good in the shower.

[@MartinWolves]

I sure his partner wouldn't mind either

[@adamvanburen]

This runs just like my childhood. No GFX card, and sometimes laggy, but well enough for a young me to enjoy. Would be a buy if a future generation had 3dFX or openGL/d3d support.

[@LonSeidman]

Yes please! I hope he can make enough of these :)

[@danosdotnl]

indeed...In my mind about 90% of the world runs on 98

Buy a Pentium 2, 450 used

[@squirlmy]

@ carrying around a Pentium2 to friends' houses, around a university campus, on the bus, etc., gets awfully tiring! Although I'd actually prefer an FPGA solution, Maybe get that 3D acceleration working.

[@GeirEivindMork]

@ 450? In my country you can get them for $45 if you don't try to haggle the price down.

[@pedrolucca1556]

hi, i'm from brazil, i use subtitles to watch your videos and i think your videos from old computers are really cool. a big hug

[@nottiredofwinning3736]

something like this, with the added features you mentioned at the end, and integrated voodoo 3 - I would buy 4 of them without thinking twice, and I would pay a good price for it.

[@frostech3149]

Love this thing, think it's so much cooler than the likes of DOS emulation on something like the rPi! Props to the mate TheRasteri who designed all of this !

[@ruroni45]

@LGR Clint, I am currently playing Tower Unite on Steam and I just caught a cool crab and immediately thought of you. I wish I could show you.

[@Cnith]

This got me SO nostalgic. Very cool. In this moment I would definitely want to buy one, but considering how little I use DOSBox these days, it might be a "hype moment".

[@tinnoc]

I love it, great review. As a firmware a PCB design engineer I think the cost of building one is that expensive because you are just buying one set of everything, if you were to build 100 sets that can quickly drop to half price.

[@Gregourii]

I'm not sure if anyone has told you this but your voice is really relaxing

[@davideassis87]

Nyah! Just like a woman.

[@chenzo55BETA]

He’s very aware and plays it up for the audience amazingly

[@marzi_kat]

His voice + jazz music = eargasm

[@birdbrain4445]

Gosh, this is *such* a neat little thing. Capable, convenient and clearly very well-thought out and constructed. I think a revision that's somewhat taller but with the same footprint on a desk, accommodating some of the omissions, would be a great way to improve on it, but as it stands it's still rather excellent.

[@devmas]

I would love to try out some Windows FMV games from the 3.x - 98 era on it. Those games are incredibly hard to tune when using a virtual machine or emulator, and they often run way too fast AND way too slow at the same time. (See: Total Distortion, Code Blue, that Goosebumps game, etc...)

[@Tarodenaro]

6:40 nice, someone finally gets the idea that neither CF or DOM disk is that common for modern usage. Also, neat SMD soldering work btw.

[@ssl3546]

Well you can still buy CompactFlash so I don't see the problem. CF is 100% compatible with IDE so you can run any OS you want, and far more robust (equivalent to an SSD), not to mention faster with DMA.

[@andypro]

Imagine taking this back to the 1990s. Having a computer that fits in your pocket that does everything a big old tower can do, and more... would be unthinkable.

[@FlatEarthDisciple]

Holy crap! Exactly what I've been looking for! DOS gaming and Windows 3.1 gaming have been secured for the future, but we really need to get moving on 95/98 gaming support.

[@jonathanellis6097]

I saw this on TheRasteri's channel a little while ago, I would love to be able to just purchase one as I don't have the skills or equipment to put one together myself. Such a fantastic little thing, with just a few additions and a little bit of polish I am sure there would be a market for it.

[@admiralbees1690]

As someone who dabbles in CNC I had no idea this kind of little machine exists. For those that don't know, it can be hard to get an older (but functional and expensive CNC machine to work on a modern PC cause they don't have a parallel port). Interesting stuff.

[@Cekkent]

Are there any plans for this to be a purchase-able, fully built unit at some point?

[@pizzaivlife]

14:00

[@MatthewWaltonWalton]

Like the video said: no. But the schematics are available for those with the skills to build one themselves.

[@NaoPb]

At the end of the video he mentions there aren't. But that the parts and schematics are available to build one yourself, so maybe someone will do that and maybe resell those. I am playing with the thought of doing that myself but my soldering skills are nowhere near what I would need to solder the smaller (smd) components and connectors. So I am thinking about solutions for that, like having the pcb company solder on the components or something like that. But I really have to research that first to see what it costs and if that's even an option for me.

[@AndrewTyler]

you should watch the video to find out! he answers this question directly

[@grahamc87]

The BOM is around $350. Assembling them and making them available for people to buy as a turnkey item would result in a price tag of over $600.

[@Marc-pu1wm]

I seriously appreciate when you show off these kinds of things. I wouldn't know of their existence otherwise. I want to get something like this, I just haven't looked into it enough to make a decision yet.

[@piketfencecartel]

Would be nice to see the micro-usb exchanged for a usb-c as well. I was thrilled when Raspberry Pi made the switch.

[@Foxhood]

We hobbyists still generally avoid them. The pitch is so utterly tiny they can be a colossal pain to solder by hand. Assuming you can source a Pin through hole model. The Surface mounted ones i wouldn't even bother without reflow soldering. So we mostly still stick to Micro. The more skittish ones potentially opting for mini.

[@kirinokosaka9641]

@@Foxhood Us shaky handed hobbyists stick to regular B because its easier to solder

[@Foxhood]

@@kirinokosaka9641 I don't like pth that much. Costs space which costs money if you have your boards fabbed. I do employ custom footprints with the pads elongated. Easier to hit with the iron despite not having the most stable hands with the solder flowing to the pin doing most of the work. If only for power I would only modify the vbus+GND pad to make it as easy as possible.

[@SimianScience]

i have wanted something like this forever. thank you LGR. i will buy this sometime soon

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Would be neat if they made something like this with an integrated Voodoo2 or equivalent 3D accelerator of the time (3dfx was king until the Geforce/Radeon came out). I understand why this version doesn't though, since the SOC was designed for legacy industrial PC's.

[@danieldorn2927]

I would instabuy that I always have a few times I just wanna get back into the nostalgia that is retro But I dont have a retro pc, and the options that i could get are expensive, even more than the 500 bucks that this would cost.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@Jason Fitch Yes. But those came out later. There was a time when 3dfx was king, and Glide was the only protocol that actually worked well. Of course Geforce cards are better...they drove 3dfx out of business, and Nvidia owns almost all their tech today.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@Jason Fitch Depends on what you're doing with it. Some people are looking to run specific software that only runs properly on the Voodoo.

[@IntoTheVerticalBlank]

THIS ROCKS! I need one. Now we need a Gravis re-make to plug into the "game port"! Even with the things you point out as needed add-ons, it's still really awesome.

[@malelonewolf80]

Would love this, especially if it came with voodoo2 3dfx acceleration. But even as a dos computer this would be great. But it should have hdmi, and usb ports for keyboard and mouse, as well. But to have a ready to buy / available for sale mini retro gaming pc, would be super.

[@firelightyear]

I would like it to have voodoo 5 3Dfx acceleration….

[@abdullahtrees5204]

HDMI lol

[@timmyburden5701]

That would be cool but he would need permission from Nvidia they bought out voodoo.

[@firelightyear]

@@timmyburden5701 Yeah we should get the word out to Nvidia about this. I think we or the creator of Weecee should go to one of Nvidia panels at a tech convention and ask them if they can help in these projects…

[@SmellTheCheeeez]

You know you really like something when you start nitpicking things you want to fix because that's all you can really find that needs improved. Great video as always!

[@risq1809]

I would love to see a “pro” version or something thats a bit bigger, maybe including features you mentioned along with some 3D support or something

[@Gunbudder]

This is awesome! i've been designing an MS-DOS PC for years, so i love to see that someone scooped me. i never got mine off the ground because its fairly complicated and i never had the time. i was 100% motivated by daggerfall, which can't run smoothly in emulation. you just need an older PC to play that game

[@XTheBlackSoulX]

Pretty sure Daggerfall nowadays relies on mods and such to get it up to more modern standards with things like freelook, but you're right; it's good to have the original experience preserved and made available.

[@tahustvedt]

Oh wow this is cool. I want to build one for myself. I'd design a 3D printable beige mini-IBM-looking case for it if I had one.

[@iainbagnall4825]

Yes Clint! Always support others on your way to the top - you never know when you'll meet them on the way back down!

[@kyanoang3l0_old]

I've been concerned about the retro hardware that will be available for me when I finally have the money and time for a retro gaming PC. Hopefully, there'll be any 2+ years from now. It's nice to see people who are still interested in retro computing.

[@UnbelievablyBased]

I'm holding onto an old Compaq Pentium 3 tower I saved from the recyclers for the chance that it will someday be of use to someone for retro gaming. I don't have the time or interest to do anything with it, but I have a soft spot for old computers and the prices are starting to rebound.

[@awanderson]

Very cool device. Thank you for taking the time to review it.

[@teh_supar_hackr]

With the WeeCee's schematics being freely available online, if you had the skill to you could add various features you want in it.

[@danieldorn2927]

What if we get rid of the graphics core, put everything else on a large PCB, have the AGP interface built so you would have a real Voodo on the one side, and all the other stuff on the other?

[@hannaha.2246]

@@danieldorn2927 It unfortunately doesn’t have AGP lines but it does have PCI lines that could probably support a VLA-100. Andy has mentioned that that would be a lot more involved though, and I happen to agree. That being said, never say never! There was another guy who reversed engineered the Voodoo5 6000 and made his own, and you can still buy VLA-100 chips to this day.

[@retrogamepuppy1445]

i'd have never heard of this without lgr. Good video

[@duke86fan]

So basically a raspberry pi instead doing ms dos and Windows 98 SE That legit seems like the ultimate affordable retro machine

[@adamhunt5291]

Well I'd buy one or five... if they're ever mass produced.

[@pseudotasuki]

Pretty much. Though much lower performance, obviously.

[@jondonnelly3]

@@pseudotasuki it's much quicker than a pi cause no emulation for dos games

[@pseudotasuki]

@@jondonnelly3 Sure, but a Pi is much quicker in general.

[@duke86fan]

The only thing needed is some way to use glide or something

[@wildbill23c]

Interesting mini-PC, looks like something that I'd enjoy using to play old games without taking up a lot of space, which is the reason my Commodore stuff is packed in boxes, just no room to have it all setup.

[@AndyMelton]

"I wouldn't mind a couple more inches" - Story of my life! Some of the cheap thin clients (often found for less than $20) can run Windows 7 or earlier really well. There are plenty of people turning them into DOS gaming boxes. Still, a pretty cool project. Thanks for sharing.

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

Thank you for covering this, been watching the Project coming along and fun seeing you review it :D

[@IamBananas007]

this is amazing! if it was a bit bigger, a built in USB hub, and powered via the more robust Usb-C would be great.

[@Thomogon]

Okay for 1, this PC is adorable. Second, I am currently binging your Sims 4 reviews. I bought the Sims 4 on launch with like one or two expansions, but I quickly realized they were selling back stuff that should have already been in the game so I stopped playing. Got back into the game, got all the expansions for dirt cheap and modded the game with the basemental mod pack, as well as extreme violence and the lot. I started out playing the game more as a management RPG rather than a sim/sandbox and it just became a much more enjoyable game to me. Basically what started out as a failed college student/failed comedian with severe mental issues grew into a highly profitable weed farm and crime syndicate.

[@drjase]

"I wouldn't mind a couple of extra inches, if u made things that much more useful" 😂😂😂 Nice one, Clint!

[@MattPolytech]

Where could one be purchased by those less skilled gl assemble their own?

[@katelynnbrianne9725]

There’s just something about your voice that reminds me of my childhood. Like Watching the LGR SIMS 3 game reviews before buying them brand new.

[@mikehensley78]

13:51 "I wouldnt mind a couple extra inches if it made things that much more useful" - Clint. ...That's what she said! :D I love little computers like this. Awesome video!

[@GaiusSabinus]

i came looking for this comment

[@lopwidth7343]

Unintentional pun imo

[@biohead66]

@@lopwidth7343 Unintentional "That's what she said"bait, puns are different.

[@x.4132]

dude, your channel kicks butt... just found it coincidentally. I don't watch a lot youtube, but this is gold :)

[@caseycu]

Could you imagine this along with a powered USB hub packaged into a beige mini-mini tower or tiny desktop?! 😍

[@hhectorlector]

Very cool product. Great review. Had been wondering about it since I saw it in your last P.O. Box episode. Thanks for being thorough on the shortcomings!

[@crescentfreshsongs]

Gah, this is so cool. My dream of a handheld 90s PC without emulation comes ever closer to fruition. I shall not rest until I've played You Don't Know Jack on public transportation, preferably while wearing a full outfit of promotional Windows 95 merch and talking the driver into asking everyone "Where do you want to go today?". Hey, I never said my aspirations weren't weird as hell.

[@breakingames7772]

Why do u want a 90s computer? I had fun with black n white game and sims but otherwise it sucked

[@crescentfreshsongs]

​@@breakingames7772 Because I had an entirely different experience, mainly. Like, yeah, if I only enjoyed two games that decade, I wouldn't want to preserve the era either, but I enjoyed hundreds of them, many of which are compromised in some way on modern hardware.

[@S_Tadz]

Wow, I love it! Makes me think about the 90's LAN party we used to do, hauling half a ton of gear in our backpacks...

[@troIIdier]

"I wouldn't mind a couple extra inches if it made things that much more useful." I feel you dawg

[@ScottieMckinley787]

😒my life

[@simontay4851]

couple OF extra inches... OF!

[@Leeki85]

Currently, the most affordable MS-DOS and Windows 98 hardware is HP 5710 thin client. I've paid 10€ for such device. It is a mid 2000's machine sold with Windows XP embedded, but has all drivers for Windows 98 and even has native Sound Blaster Pro support in MS-DOS. OPL2 FM Synth is not perfect, but acceptable and SB DAC works flawlessly. It only uses VIAFMTSR that keeps DOS in real mode, so compatibility is perfect. Windows 98 works even better and Radeon 7500 Mobility is good enough to run 1997-1998 3D accelerated games. It is faster than Voodoo 1 and has a lot more memory. Some games work really well, like Tomb Raider 3 has playable framerates up to 1600x1200. Older Thin Clients are in general good and affordable devices for Windows 98 and XP gaming. However, there's just one model that has native MS-DOS Sound Blaster support.

[@pseudotasuki]

It's 2021. New devices should be using USB-C. Especially for power. But this thing thing is still amazing.

[@theinfinity2994]

I agree. USB-C is simply more efficient for charging when compared to alternative methods. Up to around 24% in controlled lab tests. And there’s just the convenience of having many spare USB-C chargers so having something use it as power is just nice. Most nights around midnight I feel a dark presence near me. Upon feeling this I begin to feel warm breath going down my neck but when I turn around I find no one behind me.

[@elodvezer1790]

OH MAN..... cant get enough of your game choices..... just picked up a perfect copy of Descent for the PS1!!!!

[@jansenart0]

Okay, 100%, PCB plates instead of steel: brilliant. Single-layer, copper-clad, still gets your grounding, cheap to do when you're ordering custom boards as it is, way better than having to make an order for 10000 plates for steel manufacturing.

[@phillee2814]

That looks to be the perfect kit for mounting in a vacant 5.25" drive bay, with all the I/O on the front panel. for an alternative take, and powered from the same PC it is housed in Speed of the SDXC (which must surely be running on the USB2.0 channel at best) would be improved upon by the network to your preferred network storage.

[@ericromano8078]

Too bad he's not selling these. I bet he'd have an order for thousands within an hour of this video going live.

[@mind_combatant]

man, i had literally just watched the creator's videos on this and their earlier project the day before you posted this video, talk about timing!

[@Jackson87RandomClips]

"I wouldn't mind a couple more inches." Thus is life! 🤣🤣🤣

[@rijden-nu]

Yep, that was a classic "that's what she said".

[@LoftechUK]

This is a great idea. Andy is so clever for making this. I would like the newer version with a few thing ironed out as in the video.

[@ryanjay6241]

I don't think 128 gigs is "overkill" for a Win98 system, especially with no external CD drive. CD images with Daemon Tools quickly add up ... considering most games from that era were mostly at least one full CD.

[@IRWPD]

Very happy you showed this off. This is such a cool project.

[@CantankerousDave]

I always appreciate tech that can also function as a bludgeoning implement.

[@Vixeneye1]

at around 10:00 LGR mentions that the Appeal of the WeeCee could be a bit offputting because of the additional cables you may need to connect but It sounds like a cool adventure in making a custom housing for all of that and stylize it like a PC case of that era.

[@ChairmanMeow1]

I bought one of these later on. Its pretty much a mini-retro PC. Still working great to this day.

[@rodrigopinchiari4027]

Greetings! OMG! This is AMAZING!!!! Love all your videos man. Pure nostalgia!

[@ChannelSho]

The fact it's powered through USB strikes me as amazing with how far we've come with miniaturization and chip fab processes

[@backslash_iii]

I absolutely MUST have one. Even if I have to solder it together myself.