The 'Wife Guy' Epidemic

[@pinkpandamiranda]

Not cheating isn't perfection. Not cheating is neutral. Cheating is bad.

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

Not cheating is like the minimum expectation of a relationship lmao

[@libelinhaa2079]

If you are no longer happy with that person just get a divorce and move on why cheat?

[@tony2001ify]

@@libelinhaa2079 no longer being happy is like the least common factor, still a major factor, but less down the ladder, NOW I AM NOT JUSTIFYING IT JUST GIVING MY TWO CENTS. with men and cheating, it can be ego, any bit of insecurity, multitude of options, a recheck, new experience (or which ever reasoning coming from the relationships or as simple as our natural urges, as much as I believe in monogamy with men, im not also gonna disregard that as monogamous we can be, our inner tick, like an inch is to spread

[@tony2001ify]

Like a itch** not like an inch

[@libelinhaa2079]

@@tony2001ify if you feel you can't commit to a monogamous relationship just don't. If you start to look at other people and fantasizing about it it's time to go. It's all about respect no one is forcing you into a relationship just do the decent thing a breakup before you cheat. I think most people are so afraid to be alone they rather be scumbags and cheat than leave a relationship and be alone for a while.

[@maggiedk]

Alex and Ned weren't colleagues. He was her BOSS. It's a very important fact, because not acknowledging this helps people like Ned downplay the severity of their actions. I'm tired of people getting this wrong.

[@cactusdaisy]

I think this fact is super important because it shows how overblown his ego has become. It’s revolting to cheat on your wife, it’s even worse to cheat on her with someone who DIRECTLY REPORTS to you. Even if it was consensual there’s no getting away from the power imbalance.

[@jukkis6699]

Eh, its fine to point out facts... but the most important part is ruining ones marriage and family. I dont give a fuck if two adults fucked around regardless of their work relations (As long as it was with conset, if no consent? obviously fuck em under the jail)

[@soho6435]

still does not excuse them both. they're both adults who chose to cheat on their long term spouses

[@maggiedk]

@@soho6435 never said or suggested it excused anything. What they did was wrong. But the fact that Ned had so much power over her - as a *co-owner* of the company that she worked for - made it much worse on Ned's part than just having an affair with a colleague, which is already a bad thing to do.

[@catboywizard]

Exactly why he decided to put the words "consensual workplace relationship" into his so-called apology. This was so much worse than just cheating.

[@draculactica]

i know for me personally, it takes a whole lotta focus to make sure the lady i'm having sex with is in fact my wife. it totally sucks when you get distracted and accidentally end up having sex with a person you're not currently married to. it's like, "oh whoa you mean the person i was booking a seedy motel room to sleep with wasn't actually you??? ah damn baby i'm sorry, i was so focused on other stuff that i didn't even notice"

[@roxassora2706]

You know what your wife looks like. Don't excuse it with "I didn't know it wasn't you." You know what you did.

[@draculactica]

@@roxassora2706 lmao

[@briannenurse4640]

@@roxassora2706 It was a satirical comment, meant to point out the inanity of Ned's claim that he "lost focus" and had a workplace affair.

[@heveryh6037]

@@roxassora2706 Lmfao 😂

[@roxassora2706]

@@briannenurse4640 Oh. Then my statement still applies.

[@nebulanaptime]

also alex isn't just some coworker. she was his subordinate. he was her boss. it's so gross.

[@toericabaker]

No , no! Ned said it was ""consensual "". (Sarcasm)

[@Vivismegusta]

I was just about to say this! he wasn't kicked out for cheating, he was kicked out because he had a relationship with his EMPLOYEE...

[@raininghail4049]

Her boss, an owner of the company, the head of HR, and back at buzzfeed he did a lot of hiring and likely had some say in her hiring. Not to mention that she was a try guys fan before she became their employee. The fact that anyone blames Alex or believes there’s any reality in which this relationship was consensual is so beyond me. If saying no could cost your health or livelihood, it doesn’t matter if you would’ve said yes anyways.

[@arizonarangershat3831]

She’s in the wrong too. She knew he had a wife, and she had a fiancé herself, but she didn’t care.She’s just as bad.

[@skyskynomnom4674]

And his fan back in the buzzfeed times

[@empressmarowynn]

The creepiest part was him always referring to her as "my wife" and not" Ariel" or "my wife Ariel." The other Try Guys refer to their partners by their names. He basically talked about her like she was a prop. Like maybe in the beginning she didn't want anything about her being public but when she became part of the team and was frequently in their videos he would still refer to her as "my wife", as if it was her only reason for existing.

[@melodyide2248]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[@vaderladyl]

That is a red flag sometimes.

[@tigress1girl]

Insightful commentary. I concur.

[@JJ-1866]

Very interesting observation. Many people use distancing language in deception and they will often steer clear from using names or personal identifiers in a way to distance/separate themselves from a situation or person.

[@AnnaHans88]

An even bigger red flag is saying, "The wife." This is how some serial killers addressed their family.

[@k3upikachu]

This is why I don't get concerned at all about my boyfriend's not posting us on social media 😂 he and I both like to hold the best things in life close and do not share much. The quiet ppl have nothing to prove

[@CloveAndHerKnives]

Literally same!

[@Squirreltasticqueen]

As long as he doesn't deny you and that the relationship exists it's a nice quiet way to be.

[@punkybrewstar83]

Worst partners I've had, who spend the least time with me, share lots of photos. However, talking about your partner a lot usually means that they are a big part of your life and you are proud of them. But then most of us talk to few people, and work jobs where we don't talk about our lives, so it is very different to talking at millions of people that are strangers, about our lives.

[@meganstreiff5157]

I'm the same way, tho I do post big stuff (anniversaries, birthdays, and big events we go to together), my boyfriend and I don’t post stuff all the time on socials and it's only friends who see it

[@tarass8737]

Same my husband barely posts anything doesn't try to show too much affection in front friends and family. The love he shows is when we're together alone and it's a very real love, not for the world, for me. That's what i appreciate.

[@samanthaandal6580]

Let's be clear. He didn't get fired because he cheated on his wife. He got fired because he was a BOSS who was sleeping with his EMPLOYEE, which completely negates what he horrifyingly called a "consensual relationship".

[@McSnarf]

Nope. He was fired because they had to save their business and that was a safe way to do that. Sleeping with employeed is absolutely legal in probably most areas of the world.

[@daasocialninja4804]

@@McSnarf what areas of the world? From Southeast Asia and it’s not okay here so where is this okay?

[@McSnarf]

@@daasocialninja4804 legally? Or morally? Unless it is an apprentice or a minor or a prisoner in the legal system or a student, have an affair with whomever you want within the company in Germany.

[@jocelynfuentes4497]

It is consensual if Alex agreed to it whether she’s a subordinate or not. Let’s not ignore that she’s a GROWN ASS OLD ASS WOMAN AT THE RIPE AGE OF 30+. This isn’t a minor & an adult situation. Ned shouldn’t have used his authority to put an employee in a terrible situation but at the same time she needs to take accountability for not only cheating with a married man but cheating on her own husband. If it was a threat she could’ve reported it. Idk about you but no job or social media pressure is worth my marriage yet she choose to ruin 2 marriages.

[@daasocialninja4804]

@@McSnarf legally ofcourse if morally that would happen anywhere.

[@RenCollieflower]

She was an employee, not a colleague. That's what makes it worse.

[@McSnarf]

Irrelevant. It was endangering the Try Guy's public image and brand. They probably wouldn't have cared if they would have been able to cover it up, but with Ned and Alex behaving like they did in public - no way. They are not upset about the infidelity (unless they are Moral Morons), they are upset about one of them threatening their business.

[@aladdout9454]

irrelevant. They are both cheaters is whats important. All that power dynamic trash is irrelevant cuz this Alex girl seems unhinged to me(and so does the ned man)

[@sarar4270]

@@aladdout9454 ​ @Jens Stark Relevant actually. As employers, the other try guys could have faced huge legal problems. Alex could have sued any moment she felt wronged. If they fired her, she can claim wrongful termination. Also about Ned, him being her boss puts him in authority. Her job depends on him. At any moment something could have gone wrong. Yes Alex willingly cheated but Ned being her boss at extremely relevant at the end of the day. She could have switched up and said she was forced into the "consensual relationship" Ned claimed it was.

[@aladdout9454]

@@sarar4270 Alex "could have" She "could have" yeah...so...miss mam, this "could have" been relevant. But it's not. Reality is she's a lying, cheater and he's a lying, cheater. Regardless of their positions, she would have found another man to cheat on her fiance with and he would have found another woman to cheat on his wife with.

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

Eugene looking like he could just strangle Ned right then and there is the only amusing thing to have come out of this imo Like the dude is one step away from making a death threat on camera

[@WafflesOinc]

Yeah! I don’t remember seeing him that angry before

[@johnnyfives5416]

Someone said that it was personal for him because his dad also would cheat on his mom.

[@McSnarf]

They worked in front of an autocue (or teleprompter, take your pick). That does not leave any room for improvisation - so no death threats. :)

[@amandasnider2644]

He's best friends with Ariel, and his own parents divorced...

[@carnuatus]

​@@johnnyfives5416 really? I knew his parents got divorced and he talks about it all the time so I figured that would be why he was so mad. Especially when at the end of the video where he takes care of Wes for a day, he says he would kill for him.

[@maddie.bolland.7]

This is a good video, and I found the exploration of cheating being rooted in masculinity very thought-provoking. However, I think you missed the most crucial part of the situation, which is the power dynamic between Ned and Alex. While cheating is immoral and I’m sure the other guys don’t agree with it, Ned wasn’t fired for cheating. He was fired for abusing his power as a boss and owner of the company by cheating with his employee. While Ned and Alex were both in the wrong and I personally believe they both deserve criticism, Ned’s situation is more crucial given the disgusting abuse of his position, power, and influence.

[@dOVERanalyst]

How's NO ONE going to talk about the pain I MAY HAVE CAUSED. Ned still thinks there's a possibility that he didn't cause any pain to wife and friends? Seriously???

[@McSnarf]

The issue is that people actually believe that anyone but his wife and kids are pained because of his infidelity. Everyone else has MASSIVE issues with someone threatening their livelyhood. This is not a soap opera.

[@dOVERanalyst]

@@McSnarf I really don't understand.

[@emmavrijburg6676]

I had the privilege of growing up in a family that was built on a strong, loving marriage. My dad loves my mother so much, she’s like a part of him or something. Staying faithful is never a chore like cheating men make it out to be

[@carrie9716]

The fact that your experience is rare is part of the reason this blew up social media in my opinion. Like statistically a large group of us young people watching the try guys are from divorced families and seeing a “loving” marriage made us happy. I know I was fooled into thinking he must love and cherish his wife by all his lovey talk.

[@emmavrijburg6676]

@@carrie9716 honestly i still think he loves her, or af least i think he thinks he loves her

[@carrie9716]

@@emmavrijburg6676 you might be right. It almost makes it worse that he could treat someone he loves like that. I just feel so disenfranchised with love lately.

[@mnmnnm586]

I'm not gonna lie, the only reason I didn't watch the TryGuys stuff is because his obsession with his wife creeped me out. In one video, he mentioned her, like, 7 times... I unironically felt like something worse than cheating was going to happen. I hope the best for the family, though. Excellent video, btw, you made some great points. Overcompensating seems to almost always be the case in these situations.

[@k3upikachu]

Hehehe I hope their viewership goes up now that he's gone

[@sourgreendolly7685]

SAME I’m happily subscribed now but I knew he was full of it. Gave me the ick.

[@sarahkathleen6752]

Same! I enjoyed watching the try guys but then Ned started doing the wife guy persona and it just felt off to me. I don't blame anyone close to the situation for not seeing it because you never expect those closest to you are capable of doing things like that.

[@iAquarius202]

Wait you felt that Ned may have been capable of something worse than cheating? Are we thinking like a Chris Watts type of worse because yikes 😬 (and if that’s what you meant I totally get it).

[@AWKWARDCONFIDENCE]

It’s always the ones who overcompensate to hide their shit

[@tlowery2074]

There’s been actual academic studies demonstrating a correlation between the more a couple posts about each other the more likely that there are serious underlying issues in their relationship

[@manicpepsicola3431]

I'm glad neither of us post about each other then we don't need too

[@carnuatus]

This is one of those things, for me, where the "middle ground" seems like it would be ideal (generally).

[@rhia_code]

How does someone 'lose focus' for 10 months with someone they work with, who knows their wife and children? HOW?!

[@McSnarf]

Evolutionary biology. His hormones took over. I'd assume that he was seriously attracted to her emotionally. (The "falling in love" bit coming before the long-term connection happening in relationships going on for longer.) That is a surprisingly powerful drug.

[@rhia_code]

@@McSnarfhis hormones took over for 10 months? And if he loved her why is he trying to work things out with his wife? Now that its out, he has an opportunity to fuck off with Alex yet hes staying with Ariel...

[@McSnarf]

She offered something, emotionally or whatever, which he would not get at home. And he basically got it "for free". Then, they became careless, which made the "cost" go up. His wife takes him back (for whatever reason), so the simplest (!) option for him is going back. No risk of losing the kids etc. Pp. Not ethically sound, it doesn't make Ned a good guy, far from it, but it explains why he did what he did.

[@rhia_code]

@@McSnarf yeah I understand that. What I don't understand is why he phrased it as "losing focus" like his infidelity was the toilet seat that he forgot to put down, and not a whole ass 10 month relationship he had with a subordinate.

[@rhia_code]

@@McSnarf but he's obviously trying to downplay it whilst staying between the legal lines incase Alex decided to try and sue him or the company

[@DA-yy8rs]

Not a colleague, an employee and company owner relationship, which is the true issue at hand and the reason for his firing Word choice is important when making videos on topics that are already downplayed by big media (i.e. the SNL skit)

[@maggiedk]

Thank you.

[@WafflesOinc]

Ned has friends in SNL (writers) from college

[@JJ-1866]

As another comment said, not cheating isn't being perfect. Remaining faithful to the person you love is literally the bare minimum and they're acting like they're making the biggest sacrifice by "not giving in to their natural manly urges" and cheating.

[@gerboo5998]

I mean... In some ways, it is, we loveee women!... And if you look at history... And know some about our psychology and drive...soo...

[@luvPlastic]

@@gerboo5998 Part of being a man is taking responsibility and having self control. You cheat on your wife, you've shown everyone you're reckless, irresponsible and self centred...I doubt those words are what people associate with being a traditional man, rather a dirty rat. If you look at history and science (women are designed with the strongest inate urges to fuck any perfect man within their vicinity so their offspring could survive. If you want society to be ruled by biology, please let your future wife fuck Henry Cavill so our future generation doesn't die out from your terrible genetics) For every women you *think* about having an affair with, there are at least 20 men waiting for the opportunity to sleep her. Take that risk and fuck around then.

[@carnuatus]

​@@gerboo5998 nah if you think cheating is OK, you hate women, bye.

[@GusTheMcNugget]

I met Ned because he came into my old job to order. I didn't recognize him at first because I was looking for his wife's face to confirm that it was in fact him. The woman he was with is apparently the woman he cheated on his wife with. I only got a picture with him and not of him with the girl, but I swear on my momma's momma it was her

[@victoriaoleary8124]

The way my heart sank when I saw Ryan's face on the thumbnail

[@ileanabriannemari]

IKR

[@Tracy-hm3yi]

Exactly you can't just diss RR like that

[@iAquarius202]

I don’t really know much about him outside of a few movies I’ve watched but is he known to seemingly overdo the “my wife/my family” thing on social media or something?

[@Wheres_Bunny]

@@iAquarius202 not really? He just acts like Ryan Reynolds

[@carnuatus]

​​@@iAquarius202 I think he does a little. Nowhere near the Ned level. I've also heard he's very much a dick head behind the scenes and I don't know why people are immediately so quick to defend him. You don't know him.

[@harshitabhuyan8892]

How are we forgetting Adam Levine? Adam being smitten by Behati, being a doting husband and father despite being this famous popstar was his whole persona. I became enamoured by Adam when i saw him being such a supportive husband to Behati in VS shows, always standing up to clap for her, kissing her sweetly on the ramp and then so vehemently cheating on her, a freaking VS angel. He had us all fooled.

[@elinat2414]

Look, the only 'positive' thing that came out of this is that it made many people reflect on the fact that cheating really had very little to do with the partner's physical appearance. Some of the most stunning women in the world have been cheated on. When a man cheats, it's entirely his fault, it's all on him. It's nothing to do with his partner's looks.

[@carnuatus]

Speak for yourself.

[@bellecwy]

i love the point of men thinking adultery as something of natural instinct and consider resisting the urge to cheat as a virtue or commendable act

[@abescore]

a thing I’ve been thinking about a lot about online personalities becoming your “brand” is that… it must be so terrifying to change at all because that is your livelihood, your career is your personality and relationships. For a wifeguy, it becomes impossible to admit to your loved ones that your relationship is suffering because that could literally cost you your job and then they do stupid shit and ruin it anyways. Couldn’t imagine making my life as it is now my own brand forever, and letting whether i reveal that I’ve changed as a person come down to a branding/financial decision. That has to fuck with your head

[@Alexcutspie]

i understand that this doesn’t have as many likes because you’re empathizing for Ned; but honestly i appreciate your stance because i think it’s brave to say an _actually_ unpopular opinion- and it’s not that you commend his actions either but it shows the complexities of feeling forced into a corner of an identity box.

[@Pushnotificationsalwaysoffbye]

AGREED. As a Mother who just filed for divorce from my husband for reasons not at all related to infidelity and cheating, I believe there are so many things in life that matter - this is not our business and we have no clue what his marriage dynamic is. Our society is determined to “not care” to avoid getting hurt and pushes the notion of “you can’t trust anyone that’s why I stay single” just based on incidents like this but I wonder then - what’s the point of life for these people? If you don’t want to be happy, which means being able to love, even if it’s a relationship with ONLY yourself (which requires the greatest amount of trust) - what’s the point? I also think it’s insane how people place these influencers on a pedestal and then tear them down at the first opportunity they get. I’m not sure why channels like this who PROFIT off exploiting other peoples’ pain aren’t being dragged off their high horses. The hypocrisy is insane. Not to mention, this guy didn’t make an entire channel ABOUT his family; he didn’t do the Ace family thing or what pretty much every other family channel does. I don’t feel that he intentionally fooled people just by expressing that his family is his focal point in life - and him having sex with someone else doesn’t mean that everything he says about his wife isn’t true. He might be deeply in love with his wife and maybe they have an understanding, or maybe she’s not the Angel everyone assumes she is just because they’ve seen a few clips of her - not to say anyone “deserves” to get “cheated” on, but that none of us know what happens behind closed doors in a relationship. Especially a marriage with a child, speaking from experience. When my family and friends found out about my divorce, it was very much like this - a HUGEEE scandal, unbelievable, nobody understood it because my ex husband was (and still is) madly in love with me and most people who knew us thought we really had it all. And we did for a while, but life is a bitch. There are far worse things than cheating IMO, I’ve been cheated on by an ex, but I genuinely wish my ex husband only had sex with someone else as opposed to verbally, emotionally and otherwise being unbelievably abüs!v3. The thing about cheating is it’s almost never about the person being cheated on, but when someone hammers you down over and over trying to change who you are, that is intentional and it’s directed at you and meant to hurt you. It doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with me and I know that NOW, but if my husband cheated, I could’ve moved past that easily if it was purely physical. I’ve had urges more times than I can count, especially while pregnant. A lot of people are throwing biological truths out the window here and blaming societal conditioning, but biology is real and alive and people offended by its existence have no choice but to get over it because biology changes for no man nor his whimsy - it influences our choices via our physiology, not the other way around. Societal influence can create monsters, but biology merely seeks to preserve the human (or other) race. Pheromones are real, Motherly instincts are real, “biological time-clock” is a real feeling within many women that is partially to blame because of society but it’s also innately within us because procreation is integral to our existence. There’s a reason men have been “seed-spreaders” for millennia and a reason women often care for the child when one person leaves - as women, we spend an entire year growing our children inside of us, that process bonds us to our children so that they’ll be protected by us when they’re born, in order to survive and later reproduce. Men are biologically inclined to bond with their children once they become more sentient, but their real disposition is to create millions of more babies - hence billions of sperm. I know this is getting way off topic lol but my point is, after a long marriage, 2 prior engagements, 3 extra relationships longer than 1+ years, being cheated on in the past and cheating once myself, experiencing loss and real tragedy, and now being a single Mom *by choice* because it is what’s healthiest for my son and I, I’ve learned that sex with someone who isn’t me is so low on my list of what makes a good partner, and I wish more people were open to the notion of COMMUNICATION regarding monogamy instead of throwing away lifetimes over indiscretion. When your needs aren’t being met for whatever reason, you can become almost animalistic in finding ways to fulfill those areas of your life - for my ex, it was emotional affection, and I failed him, I know I did and it must have been horrible for him. I wish I had this insight back then, but I also know we grow from our mistakes and move on and (hopefully) become wiser. My needs that weren’t being met were MANY, but in his own way, he was “giving this everything he has” - to him that meant working overtime almost daily - remotely no less - to provide financially for me and our child. But it didn’t make me happy and no matter how much I tried to express that, it fell on deaf ears because HIS conditioning led him to believe that money and financial stability are THE MOST important things in life. To me, the love of your family, peace of mind and health are all I truly need. I’ve been rich and I’ve been poor and I find I’m happiest with just enough to get by and have an ice cream with my son here and there - I choose this life even though I could also choose to return to my ex who makes $150k/year which is a LOT where I live. But money is not love to me, nor is sex. Neither of the two could make or break my marriage, it ended up being as simple as his anger and refusal to seek proper help to the point our baby was afraid and that was what made it very clear to me that it was time to go. That’s why I have such a hard time empathizing with people who waste so much energy on being upset about affairs of the flesh, or “cheating,” ESPECIALLY when it happened to someone that isn’t even them! People today are very lonely, and our obsession with exploiting moments like this are why. It’s foolish and we’re almost spitting in the face of life by not engaging in more happiness and less drama. Sorry lol as you can tell this is a very big problem for me - not cheating because I don’t even believe “cheating” is a realistic idea - I don’t believe the average person will never be attracted to someone else for the rest of her life, and as we know that regular 0rg@sm$ lead to better health and happiness, it seems insane to me to have a society so conditioned to hate it. I wish people would talk more, open their minds to different ways of life, maybe take a page out of the book of how Romans and most ancient civilizations lived and realize that JUST BECAUSE it’s often a man who is compelled biologically to have sex with more different women does NOT mean we’re all “internally misogynistic idiots” if we allow our relationships to be open when it comes to sex. Some of us just value things like love, support, a good parent as a partner, and being alive with working limbs and eyes in general more than we care about our partner having sex with someone who isn’t us. I still believe in marriage but probably won’t legally get married again, but I love the romantic ceremony and the idea of a lifelong partner - so long as we OPENLY DISCUSS both of our needs, how we will ensure both of us are having our needs fulfilled, and simply that we continue to communicate and roll with the tide. I guess when you’ve experienced great loss and actually learned from it, a lot of things that used to be important (being “cheated” on) become so irrelevant that you get embarrassed at how jealous you used to behave!

[@feat.onewoo]

I kinda agree with your statement because it is natural to feel that way but what Ned did was unacceptable even if he felt that way.. I don't think ppl would have hated him if he divorced Ariel and then found someone and obviously someone who is not a subordinate at work who is also in a relationship with someone else.. but if he did find someone after that, it wouldn't have been a problem.. I would have stood by Ned if that had happened..

[@voyance4elle]

yessss!!!! This comment 100%

[@MVPMVE]

I understand where you're coming from and respect that you brought up this point. However, I completely disagree with it specifically because there's already so much precedent of using your family for clout ending terribly for all involved. In a word, it's simply exploitative. How many child actors and children of vloggers grow up entitled, narcissistic, jaded, emotionally unstable, etc? How many Hollywood or social media famous couples end up divorced after years of showcasing their charmed love together? No one likes to feel used, and if you have to play happy spouse/child all the time, the pressure mounts, yet what outlet do you have that doesn't hurt the brand? Hence, down-low coping mechanisms like drug abuse, affairs, etc. And honestly, how can you feel for the guy who initiated this whole facade, and yet _he's_ the one who cheated? He should have "focused" his brand on his creativity and left his personal life out of his professional one.

[@carlasouza5306]

"When someone need to speak multiple times and loudly what they are, is not who they are, is who he hopes people believe they are"

[@zy510]

Your last bit about overcompensating family vloggers made me think of James and Myka Stauffer, the "parents" who abandoned their adopted son.

[@khjdkdjfkfjdk]

not Ryan Reynolds 😭 he’s tastefully in love 😂

[@marietmberg292]

I stopped the video immediately after clicking on it, so I could search for Ryan Reynolds comments 😂😅 I agree, that he should not be here

[@khjdkdjfkfjdk]

@@marietmberg292 I think some people are being a little irrational with roping some of these other men into this category of people who “overcompensate” 😅

[@marietmberg292]

@@khjdkdjfkfjdk exactly. While Ryan can certainly be viewed as a "wife guy", he is more than that and he and his wife just enjoy their relationship. He is his own person and Blake is simply a "bonus" and someone who is an important part of his world. Ned Fulmer on the other hand was just a married guy, with a great wife, that was all there was about him. When Ryan mentiones his wife it does not bother, because of course he will mention her occasionally, but when Ned did it, it was annoying, because he did it again, and again, and again. If my attempt at an explanation makes sense😅

[@Tcheera]

​@@marietmberg292 When I think of a "wife guy" like Ned -- it's someone who is ONLY a "wife guy" and you cannot name anything else about their personality or anything else they would post about. And that is totally Ned. But Ryan Reynolds probably posts at least as much obsessing about Hugh Jackman LOL. And I don't even know if I'm being facetious or not since I don't really follow posts, but I do know he has a thing with Hugh Jackman. And about a million other things going on. He has an actual personality. And a life. And a brand. He has a ton of personality traits, aspects of his life -- in fact for people who don't use twitter, there are probably plenty of people who know absolutely nothing about his wife at all, or if you just happen to watch more work focused interviews he might not mention her at all. Ryan can absolutely have a LOT of conversations without having to talk about his wife. And he does a ton of things without relying on her to make them happen or valid. I also have a ton of ways I would describe his personality that don't have anything to do with his being married. Ned, on the other hand, that is kind of the whole point.... if you ask what is he known for? Being the Try guy who was married... and had a baby. What is his personality like? Um... married. What is his work and what are his goals like? Being a married guy with a kid. No but really dig super deep -- is he funny, charming, witty, liberal, a jerk, etc, etc... I don't know he just talks about his wife all the time. (Until this of course). Oh and he went to Yale... wah wah.

[@somebody2029]

@@marietmberg292 SO DID I!! I GOT SO SAD FOR A MINUTE😂

[@renasuka]

him calling ariel "my wife" and that only instead of her name is so dehumanizing.

[@forgotmyun]

Even those without a social media following, be careful! I feel bad because there’s nothing I can do, but someone I know had confided a few years ago that their partner was cheating. They ended up staying together...and the guy has become a total “wife guy” the entire page is just full of her. Nothing much we can do about it, but none of us have forgotten

[@user-ly2cm6zk5l]

We should’ve noticed from the get go, after this man’s COMPLETE online persona was based around his alleged devotion to is love and tried to package it into a cute little box to profit off of. This man brought nothing to the table and his REAL self would peak through when he no longer felt like he had to be quirky. Let’s not forgot he told a woman that her biological clock was ticking when she was seeking advice

[@megmeg2468]

Lmao if y’all didn’t notice that’s on y’all. I was 12 watching their shit and I knew something wasn’t right about that. I cannot believe this many people are suprised by this. Y’all should work on building your intuition.

[@manicpepsicola3431]

@@megmeg2468 L

[@carnuatus]

He told a woman her biological clock was ticking??

[@mykiabuford2002]

I'm so happy you are back! You need to put these alpha males in their place ong.

[@Ilikefrogs..]

I don't think I agree with that study stating that men who make less money than their wives cheat in order to feel more masculine. I think they feel resentful towards their wives and engaging in the emotionally abusive behaviour that is required to get away with cheating is their way of subjugating their wife and regaining the "dominant" position in the relationship (ie. Putting the woman back in her "proper place")

[@beans9019]

Ok this is a hot take. I agree

[@youtubename7819]

Well to them, that’s the definition of masculinity. Harming and taking advantage of others to feel bigger.

[@manicpepsicola3431]

I'd kick it out on its ass

[@carnuatus]

Probs a bit of both.

[@brooke9297]

Wife Guy persona is just what it says it is… a persona. Also, the identity/brand is attractive to other women who are looking for a guy who would, in theeeory, treat them like that. So, a man who isn’t committed and, uh, “focused,” on his wife and family is gonna use it to meet these other ladies.

[@kathyalex778]

Exactly

[@PalmurcioWorld]

Maybe we have to stop praising men for doing the bare minimum like loving their wives.

[@fatmusiclover]

In this chaotic and ever-changing world, at least I can count on Uncle Herman to continue to be an alpha male. My hero.

[@Hi_Brien]

Mem don't have that whole battle against cheating as a default, men that cheat do. My relationship with cheating is hating others for it. It's to the point I can't watch Hamilton without feeling gross.

[@larsswig912]

it's not hard to not cheat if you truly love someone. I never once considered it when I was with my boyfriend, neither did he.

[@carnuatus]

​@@larsswig912 brave of you to think true love is the thing that matters. Nah. I think Ned truly loves his wife (obviously idk but I know for damn sure he loves his son) and I can tell you without a doubt that his cheating has more to do with his own perceptions of marriage (see try guys lie detector test video), his own insecurities (see the Try Guys video where they have deep convos with their dads for fathers day) and just him kind of being a scummy human (ie. Telling a woman her biological clock is ticking.) ALSO on YCSWU, apparently Ariel made an implication that a woman Ned cheated on with Ariel was invited to their wedding and Ariel had to ixnay that. It seems like this isn't the first time he cheated and not even the first relationship where he cheated. Fam, if you meet the guy you're with via cheating, chances are he's going to cheat on you, too. It's a sick pattern of behavior.

[@CoreyT97]

I've missed you! My favourite alpha male. Hope you're doing well ❤️

[@gwen110]

I think it's a female voice.

[@CoreyT97]

@@gwen110 But it's Uncle Herman. He is an alpha male. (It's just what is said at the start of every video haha)

[@helloraie]

"Buzzfeed guys that left Buzzfeed to create their own popular series" NGL my first thought was Shane and Ryan 😂

[@mangodelicious9998]

I saw Ryan Reynolds on the thumbnail and I was scared

[@queentrinicorn9441]

LOL my dad was a wife guy but he’s been an ex husband for a min now 😂😂😂 epidemic is right bc it makes me SICK 🤢🤮

[@sophiehenderson9298]

The only alpha male I look forward to hearing speak

[@rimjhimroy1237]

I swear if Ryan ever cheats on Blake, I am never believing in love again. He is few of the good ones left.

[@carnuatus]

The point of this vid is to not base your expectations of celebs or to assume what their relationship is.

[@jellatin555]

I accidentally read it as “the white guy epidemic” and my brain really said “yea that makes sense”

[@alixd.1493]

Not colleague, his EMPLOYEE. Morally the situation is awful, but LEGALLY? No wonder they dumped him at the door asap. He betrayed them by putting their livelihoods at risk over some fling. What a vile thing to do to his best friends.

[@crazykay9422]

I think maybe the temptation to cheat is in lots of people despite gender. What a relationship should be has been rather twisted into something fairly unrealistic. When you're dating or married you two should be perfect together, eyes only on your partner and nobody else, we've all seen the extremes of people in relationships talking about how they don't want their parents having friends of the opposite gender, like any posts on social media or even looking in their very direction. An incredibly toxic mindset that I see happen with even people I personally know. It's unrealistic to expect someone to only be attracted to their partner, sexually or romantically. Many people will still find others attractive while in a relationship and the fact that's supposed to be seen as a negative trait has caused all this messiness in relationships. Me and my partners always talked about these things, finding someone else attractive or even if we thought we may be developing feelings for someone else all together. I was never afraid of my partner cheating on me because of this honesty and understanding of human emotions but so many people turn these natural feelings into such an ugly thing and high expectations causes more people to lie and cheat behind their partners back.

[@nurro00]

Never thought I'd manage to be this early! Great video as always. I feel like Ariel was one of the main "good" qualities about Ned. I think the Try Guys will do a lot better without him. Recent trends are certainly making me uncomfortable with the self described "wife guy" persona some men are putting forward.

[@carnuatus]

I feel like Ned had better qualities than a lot of people want to admit but a lot of people now want to seem smart and like they could see everything bad about the guy from the jump. Like, dude isn't my favorite Try Guy and he has more unseemly qualities than the others (at least, at face value) but a lot of folx like to act like he has 0 comedic value or anything to add or like a lot of people here assert that his wife is his only personality trait. It's not. It might be the most forward thing about him besides like. His butt and going to Yale but there are plenty of other things about him, y'all just want to ignore them for the sake of a lack of nuance. That's a thing I think about this wife guy nonsense. ANYWAY, rant over

[@nurro00]

@@carnuatus he was the one who made having a wife his personality trait. I don't think the guy is evil or anything nor do I think that he never made a funny joke or contributed anything good to the Try Guys but at the end of the day he made being a family guy his brand and then ruined it by cheating on her and broke the trust of his family and business partners.

[@theweyrd]

Cheating is the weak character’s way to break up.

[@carnuatus]

Not really. Half of all cheaters if not more have no desire to leave the person they're with. That's the point. They don't Want out. They just want to continue pathological behavior.

[@tinashe-soho7466]

Don’t forget the toxicity that is Shaycarl 🤢

[@tinashe-soho7466]

Omg clearly hadn’t watched far enough lol! Hearing Montana Danna’s experience recently has shed even more light on how he used his position of power to pressure women.

[@jacketgod9517]

definitely not a good look add Ryan Reynolds to the thumb nail, out of all the “entertainment husbands” he’s one of the very few that is actually a good husband/ father and worships Blake

[@meganstreiff5157]

I was actually worried that he got caught doing something bad because he was put on here. Poor guy doesn't deserve to be grouped up with these dudes.

[@Luka-DanteGodofMischief]

That's why I clicked it real fast cause I look up to Ryan and would be bummed if he turned out like loser Ned.

[@WafflesOinc]

That we know. Who knows what really happens between them

[@roxassora2706]

Another Blake should be out on there. Blake Shelton. I have a feeling he was one before Miranda and Gwen.

[@avereye_04]

YAY I MISSED YOU UNCLE HERMAN!!! also i love watching videos and memes about this but i feel for ariel and she deserves the best

[@batty.draculaura]

Why is Ryan Reynolds in thumbnail:(

[@babywigeon]

uncle hermy's back!!

[@MissCaraMint]

Wait why is Ryan in the thumbnail? What’s he done??

[@Deathbyglizzy]

Nothing I think it’s just because he’s a wife guy but tbh the best one

[@nyxminecraft2315]

Best title I've ever seen Had me caughing from laughing

[@samicoello7133]

I love how the thumbnail is like the Heathers of the "wife guys"

[@Beautyinthebreakdown.]

The only ‘opportunities’ are the ones you create.. cheating is a choice.

[@francescaward8582]

Please use the right terms he cheated on her with his EMPLOYEE making it so much worst

[@painoftheheart12]

Some people pointed out that he cheated on his wife with an EMPLOYEE not a colleague. Colleague is an equal he is one of the owners. Additionally, NED FUNCTIONED AS HEAD OF HR. So like as bad as it is for a boss to have a relationship with his underling, now imagine if the person you need to report to for sexual harassment was the same person who sexually harassed you. Tbh I think Alex totally scoped him and saw the affair as a job opportunity and saw it as a thrill to make the wife guy her boy toy. But she can always claim sexual harassment and that's the issue.

[@katybaby0220]

There is no excuse for the pain and betrayal of cheating. However I firmly believe that when that persons relationship is their whole personality cheating might be inevitable because the relationship person eventually loses sight off themselves. Who they are, what they like and what their boundaries are get eclipsed due to being the relationship person and not their own person.

[@carnuatus]

Nah. It's a pathological behavior of his, I think (as with most cheaters). It's implied in an episode of YCSWU that Ariel was someone Ned cheated on someone else with. When that's the case, take my advise and don't marry that person because they'll likely end up cheating on you (and from what I understand this may not have been the first time he cheated on Ariel).

[@larissabrglum3856]

I'm gonna be honest. I never liked Ned. I couldn't put my finger on why, but he just wasn't endearing to me the way the other guys were, so I never watched videos that focused on him.

[@jenniferbond7073]

Me too. I found him annoying, I didn’t like the I love my wife shtick. It didn’t seem genuine to me. Keith loves his with but he doesn’t go on about it and calls her Becky not my wife. I really like Ariel, I will miss see her. I cannot imagine the humiliation and heartbreak she feels, to be lied to for close to a year and this all being so public.

[@via45]

Why is it so hard for people to not cheat, like we're you an animal, you have no control of your body? Literally just have to not do something.

[@McSnarf]

Because hormones. :) We are not as rational as we believe - and it probably wasn''t about sex, it was about the emotional high of fresh love.

[@ellie7200]

Eugene's facial expression in their video addressing the situation always fucking kills me. You know you fucked up when he looks like THIS

[@jimenacat]

i’ve been waiting for a video essay like this

[@jaypark2177]

John Mulaney didn't make his identity about his wife. He did some jokes and routines that talked about his wife but it was never something that encapsulated his 'routine'. It's different from Ned who showcases his 'wife guy' schtick since the beginning all the way to the bitter end. On all social media. it was his personality. his family and wife was his bread and butter. and he cheated. John Mulaney didn't do any of that. so it's just different.

[@carnuatus]

It's almost like there's different levels and types of wife guy.

[@lumi-df1no]

I won call ryan reynolds a wife guy tho he does talk about her but not all the time his more like the sometime funny guy lol

[@fauna5328]

Is uncle Herman a woman using a voice modulator? How have I never realized this.

[@carnuatus]

I thought Uncle Herman was Trans and only recently started T because the modulator sounds the same but the voice has become much deeper. I'll be a little sad if Uncle Herman is just a cis lady. 😂

[@bookkwyrm]

Controversial opinion: The remaining Try Guys shouldn't be let entirely off the hook here. The reddit post you showed even showed that Keith, at least, saw this behavior on the regular and thought it was normal and acceptable for Ned to flirt with other women. It's not a friend group's responsibility to keep a guy in check of course, but like the narrative that this came out of nowhere and they had no clue just. Doesn't add up for me.

[@uncleherman]

Such a good point! Damn

[@felixborges7440]

Finally! Someone said it!!! There’s no way they didn’t know. They are just trying to get a handle on the story and control the narrative they aren’t mad at him because what he did they are mad that he compromised their brand/image

[@jenniferbond7073]

I think they knew he was a flirt and might have said something low key in a joking manner yo him about it. I don’t think they knew that flirting meant he was fuvking anything chick for a year. Flirting is not cheating or fuvking. I do t think Alex was the only one he did something with. Just got caught with Alex.

[@WafflesOinc]

@@felixborges7440 I think Eugene is probably angry for other reasons too, since he is close to Ariel and come from a divorced household due to cheating. They might have know something was off but didn’t have proof until recently. The questions asked in the polygraph videos are interesting to see the dynamics between the guys. It’s clear that ned thinks he is better than other due to marriage.

[@felixborges7440]

Yea could understand that. I don’t care honestly. I saw that podcast they had and what bothered me was how they kept insisting how truly hurt they were b/c Ned was a real friend etc. the tone of the pod though was not one people analyzing their hurt feelings. It was more of a play by play of how they acted swiftly and decisively on this issue. It was all very self congratulatory inna way. Again not something I think a friend would do to another friend. Personally I don’t care if they weren’t friends irl I just hate that they keep trying to sell this story as validation of their of their own authenticity and wholesomeness. I don’t think many people reall care that much it’s kinda cringe seeing them so conserved about “saving face” makes the whole situation look worse…like what else y’all hiding??🧐🧐🧐

[@InsaneLaughter01]

That thumbnail had me worried for a sec. I was worried Ryan Reynolds had done somthing.

[@tay9902]

Miss you uncle Herman. Can you let us see you more than every major holiday lol

[@lucaleone4331]

lol does Ryan Reynolds count as a wife guy? Doesnt him and Blake just talk shit about each other 90% if the time haha

[@brooke9297]

Hoping Ryan Reynolds doesn’t go the way of Adam Levine.

[@zy510]

Slimey McSlimerson over here had just one personality trait and completely blew it

[@temisss_7115]

RYAN REYNOLDS WOULD NEVER 😂😭

[@carnuatus]

Y'all not learning anything from this debacle huh.

[@temisss_7115]

@@carnuatus let us be delusional lmao 🥹

[@TheDailySnail]

Uncle Herman is back! 🎉

[@amalau2472]

Our alpha uncle got a sponsor?! Awesome!!! 🥳

[@TheCannonable]

Missed you uncle Herman!!!!

[@chicnuggs8238]

Describing Ned as just Alex's boss is grossly downplaying his power over Alex, and anyone who wasn't Zack, Keith or Eugene. Ned was a co-owner founder and the highest chain of command for a multi-million dollar small company. He had the most net worth out of all the Try Guys at the time, if I recall correctly it was close to 9.5 million. He has a Yale degree, attended a frat, and undoubtedly comes from good money as such. Alex, on the other hand, was just a late 20s woman. She had a fiance, a lover of ten years. Her net worth surely wasn't above 100k, and her degrees (if she owns any) are not ivy league like Ned's. Ned, in every sense of the word, was ABOVE Alex. He had enough money for several lifetimes, extreme success and secondary options as well. He has an ivy league degree for fuck sake! Ned wasn't just Alex's boss, and we cannot let the world forget that.

[@brianmidkiff5408]

The lesson here is to not make your relationship your whole identity, because when life happens, it makes you look extra bad

[@universallyadored5785]

First and foremost Ned is from Florida

[@Gasmask_]

Hi so I found out on a KZbin short that someone called the cops and found out that it is just the girl who is doing help signals is kidnapped and the older sister died so it may be a robot acting like her sister can you make a video on this please

[@jasminemiller4182]

You made some very interesting points in this video.

[@Lovely2291]

YOOOO shay and charlie from ctfxc both cheated on their wives and i was totally obsessed with them omg i never put it together that they were the original "wife guys"

[@yyoveltube]

WAIT WHY IS RYAN REYNOLDS IN THE THUMBNAIL

[@assjam3104]

Because he’s a wife guy

[@marilucs]

sorry but i never saw John Mulanay as a "Wife Guy". He talks about her in parts of his stand-ups, but it was the internet (or part of it) that gave him this title and projected this "nice straight guy" image on him

[@OopsieCat]

I am going to be honest- i am side-eying Ryan Reynolds. Wish him the best, of course. I really do. But…

[@miraj5569]

something about him has always seemed incredibly off to me, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

[@mittag983]

He cheated on ScarJo. I doubt he will be 💯 faithful to Blake.

[@d011p4rtz]

men are only as faithful as their options

[@ArtsyHumanbean]

Def going to use your code when I need a re-up from Vance Global 🙏🏻☺️

[@lillyvanbergen1435]

Hey could you do a video on the boyinaband allegations??

[@savicherie]

wait what allegations?

[@The_momur]

You know, this whole My Wife (random The Who reference) identity of his is starting to look like the facade of a serial philanderer trying to make good and create the impression that he’s anything but a steaming, cheating bellend. I’m waiting for the mashup.

[@manicpepsicola3431]

I.e. the monarail behavior

[@desdemonadupre5591]

5 months I havent watched any of your videos because i was busy working and studying, but I have to say im kinda surprised by the change of your voice

[@AM-Axo]

I’m gonna talk about this head because I keep seeing people talking about Joey Gatto leaving Impractical Jokers cause he cheated on his wife BUT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

[@mztweety1374]

The more they brag about being such n such the less we believe them

[@happycat2270]

YOU LEAVE RYAN REYNOLDS OUT OF THIS

[@vaderladyl]

The majority of the time someone boasts about their so called great relationship on public forums, is actually having problems and heading for divorce. I don't get these people that get married only to appease social expectations, only to throw everything down the toilet just to feed their egos later. You can actually have a thriving single life without having to strung another person along and if you get married, make a true commitment and be honest to yourself and your partner.. You cannot have both a single and a married life going on at the same time.

[@skunkrat01]

One thing that always got me when I hear the argument that men need to fulfill these "base sexual urges", is that, that limits all men to just sexual beings. It's the flip side of slut shaming. Both limit people to just caveman ideology. It's pretty insulting to men imho.

[@Soy_boi]

Ummmmm… why is Ryan Renolds in the thumbnail. I know this video is about wife guys, but it seems pretty disingenuous to put him right next to two guys who have openly cheated on their wives.

[@assjam3104]

Because he’s a wife guy

[@voyance4elle]

This is spot on.

[@lisa489]

Already the fact that he NEVER says her name?? It's always "my wife". As if she's not her own person but just some trophy for him. At least say "my wife Ariel"??

[@carnuatus]

He did frequently say her name tho Lmfao.

[@deezyhope675]

Can we stop using the word ‘cheating’ it minimises an act that can frequently cause so much upset, disruption and effects mental health and can ruin lives and families.

[@sabatasmia8789]

As per your thumbnail all is left now is Ryan Reynolds.

[@donnylurch4207]

Is it responsible to call the other woman "a coworker?" I'm just seeking clarification, because I watched Ro Ramdin talk about this and she wanted to stress that the other woman was a subordinate *employee* of Ned, co-founder of the whole company, and as such was an abuse of a power dynamic between them that ought be recognized as inappropriate regardless of the sensational added baggage of "wife guy cheats on wife."