The WJ Grand Cherokee gets NEW WHEELS and 35s!! Will They Rub??

In today's video, we put new wheels and bigger tires on the WJ! Watch to see what wheels and tires I got this time! Can we make 35s fit inside stock fenders with no cutting?
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[@immelting9834]

Looks great 👍🏿 . I have 35's as well but I wanted a LCG , so I went with a 5 in springs and sold my 8 in springs. IMHO wheeling is so much more pleasurable again. I like jacked up jeeps myself ( I drove one in high school back in the early 90's) but not on the trail.

[@engineeringoverland]

Thanks! I agree 100%. LCG is absolutely the best way to go for offroad. Id definitely love mine to be a little lower, but overall, the 8" doesn't bother me that much. And with future plans, 8" should actually be a good height. It will eventually be getting a much wider stance and bigger tires. It should be plenty stable once its made it to that point.

[@NajarOffroad]

How do you like 8 in and 35s I was thinking I might upgrade to 6.5 and 35s but wondering about the 8

[@engineeringoverland]

I like it. I haven't had any problems with it. I was initially sent 6.5" front springs and had to get them exchanged for the 8" so had a chance to set them side by side and they aren't much different in length, but the 8" has thicker coils so a slightly stiffer rate. In the end, I think both are good options. But for me with minimal modifications, I'm clearing my 35s with ease through all of the suspension travel and lock to lock. There is also always the option of adding spacers to the 6.5" in the future if you decided you wanted to go higher as well.

[@sladegerman]

@@engineeringoverland I have an 04 overland i bought with a iro 6.5 lift. you're saying I can just buy spacers to go to 8? dont want to trim a lot

[@engineeringoverland]

@@sladegerman Yes you could add 1.5” spacers to get to 8” if you wanted. Just will have to make sure you adjust everything accordingly. Mainly pinion angles. Another thing to remember is the big difference between rubbing and not rubbing is wheel and tire specs. An aggressive offset will be more likely to rub.

[@armstrongtire204]

Hey Tyler, that's a cool transformation of the jeep. Armstrong DESERT DOG MT's looking good on them!

[@engineeringoverland]

Thanks for checking it out! Cant wait to really put the tires to the test! So far they look great and road noise is surprisingly quiet!

[@serjkeshish7]

Wow 👌🏼 what’s the lift kit hight I’m planing to go 4.5 w 33s and what size bump stop did u use little info would be grate

[@engineeringoverland]

I am sitting at 8" of lift. I am not running any extended bump stops. Still factory. Basically the built in shock bump stops are my bumps right now, but I only ever hit bump throughout articulation, so I am not concerned with that right now. Actually haven't checked if my factory bumps contact at the same point as the shocks (may still be making use of the stock bumps too).

[@miketee2444]

I suggest everyone check the actual diameter of your brand of tire because they can vary over an inch. If I remember for instance Mickey T 33s are over 34"s where as swampers are roughly an inch smaller than indicated. It can be the difference between rubbing or not.

[@engineeringoverland]

This is very true! The manufacturer website is typically the best source for this information, aside from simply measuring yourself upon receiving the tires. Every brand varies. For example, my previous 33s measured 33.1" where typically that size measures closer to 32.6/32.7". These 35s measure 34.7" which is on par for most of the 35s out there. But when considering rubbing, wheel spec is another huge factor that is often over looked (which is why I tried to be very specific about mine).

[@chrisclark3801]

Looking good man. I love the bronze & red. Want to do the same with my Deep Cherry Overland. Did yours have the air suspension before you started? I dig the background music too.

[@engineeringoverland]

Thanks! Very happy with my decision on the bronze wheels! Air suspension is only available on newer model Jeeps. Was never an option on WJ's.

[@tytraulich4987]

My 97 Sounds like the brake drum fell off inside the wheel cuz it sounds like it’s slamming, the whole vehicle jerks. Seems like it’s gonna lock up. Can anyone offer up some free advice?

[@christopherlatino6711]

Looks amazing. I love the stance with 35s. Is that the IRO 6.5” or 8.5”?

[@engineeringoverland]

Thank you. It is 8".

[@MrSrtman18]

You shouldve stuffed it in the weeds the first time, instead of all that jacking bs. Smarter not harder, but look at the source i guess.

[@Geno33983]

How she ride at 70 mph on the interstate with 8" of lift and 35" tires? Stable and smooth or loose and sketchy?

[@engineeringoverland]

It honestly drives perfectly fine. I wouldn’t say it really drives much different than stock. It’s obviously still a lifted vehicle with bigger tires so can’t expect it to drive like a car, but it cruises no problem. If I disconnect the sway bar though, then it’s a boat lol.

[@spartansoff-roadrecovery5058]

@@engineeringoverland throw some fox resivours in it front and back and get you a good fox stabilizer and it will ride like a Cadillac mine has 8-8.5 after all the welding in coil buckets and it rides like the lil goku kid on dragon ball z riding his cloud

[@engineeringoverland]

@@spartansoff-roadrecovery5058 Shocks are one of the next things on my list. I have not been a big fan of my current shock setup, but I knew I planned to upgrade in the future anyways. The overall ride of the Jeep is fine, but offroad, the shocks are too soft for my liking.

[@spartansoff-roadrecovery5058]

@@engineeringoverland fox reviews are my preferred shocks on all my rigs I run rough country v2s on the rear of one of them and they are rebuildable and comparable quality as foxs

[@spartansoff-roadrecovery5058]

@@engineeringoverland where are you from I’ve never paid attention lol

[@rafael661kc]

Hopefully I’ll be squeezing 35s on my wj soon

[@engineeringoverland]

If it fits, it ships!

[@originalsupermommy]

Is that chrome trim on the side cladding stock? My '02 Overland doesn't have that, but my rock rails are painted the body color.

[@bn3236]

Yes my 04 overland has the chrome trim and color matched rock rails

[@engineeringoverland]

Yes, it is all factory. Don't care too much for the chrome, but it doesn't bother me enough to change for now. The rock rails will definitely be changing in the future.

[@flex102599]

@@engineeringoverland you should do a giveaway with the rock rails. I know I’d love to have em

[@engineeringoverland]

@@flex102599 Thats actually not a bad idea. Thats something I may actually consider.

[@areject17]

Haha what? That’s for perfect conditions. Add movement you’ll rub for sure

[@engineeringoverland]

3 months of wheeling it and still no rubbing so pretty sure I’m good.

[@patrickmueller377]

Just put a 4" lift on my 04 wj , looking at rims and tires . Think ill check on those Armstrong tires. 😃🤙👍

[@engineeringoverland]

Sounds awesome! I’ll definitely be posting a video in the future of my thoughts on the tires and will be putting them through the paces. I think a 35 is the smallest they make right now though other than for a 20” wheel.

[@thecontroller8785]

Looking forward to seeing that thing putting in some work! Nice looking ride and love the dog in the background.

[@engineeringoverland]

The dog is always trying to steal the show.

[@yeeaahhbuddy7006]

VIDEO PLEASE on your SUSPENSION!!!!!!

[@MrSrtman18]

Wheels are hideous. Tires, time will tell.

[@chillsolo8280]

Which shocks do have on that beast?

[@engineeringoverland]

Just running the trail tamer shocks for now. Definitely not my favorite but they work until I upgrade in the future.

[@jaydencoppom2954]

Love the build man, where’d you get the front bumper it’s sick

[@engineeringoverland]

Thanks! The bumper is made by D till Fabworks

[@javierdossantosaveiro4501]

Stock danas ???

[@engineeringoverland]

For now, yes. 30 front, 44 rear. I don't plan on building these axles. Will run them as is for as long as I can then swapping them.

[@randallsavage13]

Bro Those wheels are dope I can dig it

[@engineeringoverland]

Appreciate it!

[@jadegustman4730]

That’s a nice looking hhr

[@yeeaahhbuddy7006]

Of the WJ!!!!

[@stngstr]

How's your caster angle in the front? Did you adjust the upper control arm at all when you did the stretch to the lowers? Did you have to do anything to keep your pass side spring from contacting your sway bar ends?

[@engineeringoverland]

Caster is perfect. I adjusted the upper and lowers when doing the stretch. I set the caster back when I did the lift, so adjusting everything equally doesn't change caster. To correct the angle of the spring, I made a spacer that sits under the lower isolator and angles the spring back. This helped tremendously. But through the travel, with the sway bar still connected, I have noticed the end link can still make slight contact on the spring. Not enough to really affect anything. Could add more spacer, but don't want to lift the isolator off the perch too much. I disconnect for anything serious, so its not enough of an issue to worry about. May end up trying another idea to make this better in the future if necessary.

[@markcarpenter3600]

Unless you have a custom axle made or do a cut and turn the OEM axle, caster angle or pinion angle will be wrong. Some guys try to split the difference, but around 3 inches of lift it starts to become problematic. You can try to get around this by installing a double double cardan front driveline, but this adds considerable weight to the driveline which can lead to vibration from the driveline itself. If it is a trail rig you can sacrifice drive ability with less caster, but overland rig needs to have very good road manners.

[@engineeringoverland]

I agree and disagree. The vehicles are obviously built with a nominal caster and pinion angle within their tolerance. When you lift it, its impossible to ever be at those exact numbers again. Not meeting factory spec doesn't necessarily make your setup wrong. But pinion angle always comes before caster, which is why you will see the recommended caster values changing based on lift height. You just simply adjust accordingly. If you were to set this up without any reference values, you'd want to get the best pinion angle that doesn't cause binding, where your caster can still be within a safe, useable tolerance. As long as you adjust everything correctly, this does not become problematic over 3" (or even 8"). This is one of the big reasons for long arms... long arms help to reduce harsh driveshaft angles. A high pinion axle also corrects this same thing.

[@patrickmueller377]

Oh yeah , sweet ride !!

[@officialWWM]

Nice rims!

[@staceybanner8568]

what size lift on the wj do you need to run 35s

[@engineeringoverland]

That's kind of a loaded question, but in my setup I am running 8" of lift.

[@carlosjunior6600]

Sick

[@tommyk7419]

What wheels are those... couldn't hear what you said

[@engineeringoverland]

Hartes Metal Monster

[@tommyk7419]

@@engineeringoverland thanks

[@angelcatangal2471]

Nice jeep. I have one also wj 1999

[@engineeringoverland]

Thank you! That's awesome!

[@pericotauja]

ET?

[@nhlnms]

What lift kit did you use

[@engineeringoverland]

IRO Rock Link Pro

[@salmovillian]

What front bumper is that?

[@engineeringoverland]

Dtill Fabworks hidden winch bumper

[@salmovillian]

@@engineeringoverland thank you

[@pierogillio]

What’s yours gear ratio???

[@engineeringoverland]

3.73

[@pierogillio]

@@engineeringoverland no problems on 35”s ?