The World's Most Advanced 2 Stroke vs Retro 250cc V-Twin

[@fastat5065]

250cc and 78hp,now that’s amazing 😎

[@chrisneedham3001]

Erm no it’s not! 250cc twin cylinder superkarts are pushing over 100bhp… I raced them…

[@chrisneedham3001]

125cc single 47-50bhp

[@matisvanasse5905]

@@chrisneedham3001how 😮

[@aeroflopper]

@@matisvanasse5905 35k and that's english pounds

[@2strokerides]

@@chrisneedham3001 yeah but those need a top end after every race, you dont want that on a bike like this

[@motomallen]

These weigh in at just over £35,000 including VAT, a Ducati Panigale V4S is only £25,000 and as much as I absolutely love 2 strokes there's no way most regular people would ever spend that much. That said, what a fantastic piece of kit, and it just shows that 2stroke technology is viable in todays marketplace.

[@GunsNBudder]

🤣 Bikes like these aren't intended to be sold to regular people.

[@errata101]

It is a novelty for collectors. Imagine trying to get parts iffin you used it as a regular communter and suffered failure.

[@garagecedric]

The cheap version of a modern 2t road bike is to put motard/road wheels on a 300cc enduro bike, possibly with suspension recalibrated for road use.:)

[@ekspatriat]

So a dead ender. Also the styling is so wrong.

[@n4s117]

I'm impressed with the bike, its weight, power and detail. Keeping everything British (apart from the engine and the forks!) reminds me of the Hesketh V-Twin. Expensive and a lot of Union Flag waving but it soon disappeared. I hope this doesn't but at that price it's not a real world bike. If only I still had my 350LC.

[@markalton2809]

My son got a TZR 250 Japanese import with a lot of track mods for about £2.5K. One oil-pump rebuild and a proper air-box and it goes like a dream!

[@leichi1988]

I mean 90-95hp out of a 250cc engine is some nice 2smoke-power,back in the days honda managed to press up to 200hp out of their last 500cc 2-stroke-desings and these bikes are so light and easy to throw into corners, in motocross the best rider of a small group of friends still beats us on his 125-ktm-six-days with ease no matter how much 4-stroke ccm we put up against him :D

[@johnyoungieyoung123]

Yes they were rebuilt every race.

[@klstrucker930419]

Do you know how does the weigth of a 250 2-stroke compare to a 400cc 4-cylinder 4-stroke?

[@Darren-jo4if]

Remember, it wasn't about the highest HP numbers back when strokers were in production it was about the fastest times and the ability to maintain those times lap after lap.. Who ever thought it would be civilized enough for a inexperienced rider to both ride and enjoy... Now we just need every other manufacturer to get in on it to bring down the cost...

[@gamersdouknowthiskey-2109]

@@klstrucker930419two strokes are lightweight

[@johnnyboy1586]

​​@@johnyoungieyoung123that's a bit of an exaggeration, maybe a new set of piston rings after a bit ,I had a suzuki PE 400 for some time that I used for trail riding that gave I never had to touch maintainance wise all the time I had it,also a friend who had a yamaha RD400 that he would trash the living daylights out of that gave him years of trouble free maintainance issues, the engine never being touched😅

[@neiltaylor3074]

I'm reminded of sidecar motox in the 80s. Mainly dominated by Norton and Yamaha 4 stroke motors. Then along comes the EML Jumbo which was basically 2 x 500cc Maico engines grafted together for a 1000cc 2 stroke twin. Nothing could get anywhere near it in the right hands. Happy days. Good to see Langen keeping the 2 stroke spirit alive and good luck to them.

[@999lazer]

Agreed, fair play to Langen. The world needs people like them to follow their dreams and keep the 2 strokes alive.

[@autodidact537]

@@999lazer I guess you've been living under a rock or something but the most modern 2-stroke is the Rotax ETEC direct injection voice coil engine that Skidoo has been using to power their snowmobiles for more than a decade. There's even a turbo-charged version for high altitudes. Welcome to the 21st Century!

[@dougiequick1]

How do I know the snowmobile engine will not correctly apply to the motorcycle market at all otherwise someone would have grafted one into a bike is my guess ...yep just looked at and no way is that motor right for a proper motorcycle it has bizarre cases compared to a MC probaby for a totally differnt transmission setup in otherwords you have no point other than the technology which WHEN will it make to a new motorcycle model? And as far as just pure tech goes? I imagine there are even more "advanced" ideas patented and played with even before Skiddo seems there never anything really new under the sun...someone already thought of whatever a long time ago@@autodidact537

[@mricemantoyou]

The tzr250r 3xv was restricted to 45hp, but the sp version was 62 hp. I had a 3xv with 45hp and rode an April's rs 250 tuned up to about 76hp. Both were great but the tzr 3xv is to this day the best handling bike I've ever ridden. Also the tzr250r is 128kg...

[@sugarnads]

My 88 rgv250 was 128kg and 60hp. I reckon you could get one down to 120kg with carbon fibre and aluminium etc. And i think 70hp tuned with modern engine management shouod be possible. We had guys running an easy 65bhp on the road.

[@workingclassandproud84]

i was looking for a comment like this lol , nice one geezer , and well said

[@hardergamer]

@@sugarnads The RS250 used the RGV bottom end, with Aprilars own cylinders and heads, and with stage 3 tune and flat slide TM carbs and Arrow exhaust would make 88bhp.

[@cazrealist1]

Still got a little TZR125R 4dl in the shed thinking of sticking a banshee engine it

[@Schumeyyy]

Plus the 3XV was the most beautiful bike of the 90s

[@teamgonzo9289]

I am a two-strokeaholic!!!! Who doesn't love these things!?? I can smell the pre-mix!!! This is the best one yet!! Feed my need, for speed!!! Thank you for this one!!! Too f_cking cool!!! ✌️😎👍

[@rogerthat10-47]

The oil system is a nice touch, far too many don't give it the time & effort it deserves, I useually bore mine out at assembly or re-assembly, , I used to have the full set of Suzuki GTs(still have the 750) & most of the Yamaha RDs both AC & LC along with a shit load of old British bikes, all bought as proper "Basket Cases & builtby my own fair hands until illness had me lose the ability to walk, my beautiful wife SuperNurse told the Dr's at her own hospital that despite the fact they said I would "Never wakj again, let alone ride" she said "We won't be having that", she gave me a month to sulk then put me through 5 months of hell, but I was kind of a walking, 2 years later back riding a bike, not what I was used to but riding is riding, now I take money off litrebike riders(??) on my Suzuki RGV500 Gammam or sometimes my RD LC 500, both fabulous to ride, & you do have to know how to ride, not a Nanny System in sight, just me & it just as it should be, Nanny Systems have taken the skill out of riding, that's why I van beat them on an almost 35 tear old bike. The only problem with this is the price, it may be fukn amazing, but the only people that can afford it will be putting it in their "ManCave" & never where it should be, I'm a "Die Hard 2 stroke guy" but even I wouldn't pay anyfuckjnwherenear that for a bike like this, I have a shed & yard full of bikes that probably add up to that, all better than new, & a lot faster too.

[@Silverhand290]

you sir are a man after my own heart. many years ago i had the 1st RD 125 LC which was restricted to 12 bhp in UK form. this was not acceptable to me so i se about making it a bit faster . well lots faster. most people just bought a Micron and a big main jet so it didnt burn a hole in the piston. they were lucky to get it to 95mph. i read everything i could andwrote to alot of 2 stroke tuners who were very helpful. after a lot of work i had it passing 100 mph in 5th and going on to around 120. no one would believee it was not a 175 kit. i could have done more but it was getting expensive ans needed o be srviced and rebuilt far more often than a standard 12 bhp model. i havent got a collection like yours and i am very jealous. but one day soon i an going to build myself something very special based on an early RD 350 LC. No powervalve BS. Just everyhing i have leaned since 1984 andit will destroy many anew 600 cc in line 4. hopefully it will get noticed and i can take it to a few shows maybe even get someone like these guys to do a video on it. all the best Roger I hope you get to carry on riding forever. and love to your wonderful wife. She sounds like an angel.. ciao 4 now fellow 2 stroke nutter. Stay safe. Jared

[@jeevanchaukar]

Hats-off to you mate! You are one of a kind! And your supportive wife is super-special - you know that already!!

[@tonyw3250]

I'm gutted you had both of those bikes side by side on what looked like an old runway and failed to launch them, to show the difference between the two.😪As a current 74 Kawasaki H1 owner, 2 x RD350LC's KTM300 motard and GasGas 250 trials in my line up, I do love a 2-stroke.

[@johnwilson1794]

I absolutely love this thing. I've been a two stroke fan my whole life but I couldn't own one. I raced classic TZ250s and 350s and an RGV250 in production racing in the early 90s and owned countless two stroke dirt bikes. The problem with 2 stroke engines for road use is they don't like constant throttle. The end result of that is a shredded license. Maybe I just don't have any self control but I need to keep my 2 stroke enjoyment off road and on closed circuits. Pootling around on a 2 stroke is like having 1 beer.

[@monsieurcommissaire1628]

I had fun watching this. I must say that the Langen is the best looking new motorcycle that I've seen for decades. I love that it has traditional motorcycle styling, but not "retro". Good show all around.

[@wabil_8596]

Going through the gears reminded me of my college days in India ripping through gears in a Yamaha rd350, it's really awesome to see people still loving 2 stroke engines well done lads.

[@davidmacphee3549]

I understand that was a really great bike

[@yonniboy1]

I've loved strokers since my first little Garelli Monza, then a Yamaha 200 electric, Kawasaki S2 350, H2, RD 350, RD400E, RD350 L/C, RGV250, Aprilia RS250 and many others, in fact the first 20 years of my now 50 years of biking was on nothing but two strokes, my final one being a Stan Stephens stage two tuned RG500 engine dropped into the RS250 rolling chassis, that was really something special, after which I got my first ever four stroke an R6 but there's still nothing like the sound, smell and hitting the power band on a stroker, to this day when I go to a Japanese classics meet the smell and sounds of the strokers takes me back to my youth, so I wish the makers of the Langen every success!

[@gasdive]

I still can't believe that KTM never got on this bandwagon. The 300 and 380 EXC are road legal in a lot of markets, so it's certainly possible. Their RC series frames fitted with a 750 twin two-stroke based on two 380s would be an instant classic and they'd sell all they could make.

[@billbeaumont1025]

Sadly it’s all emissions laws and regulations stop companies from selling two strokes that are road legal, ktm clearly have a passion for them still but the euro laws it’s impossible to sell them as road legal and people have to do them themselves

[@gasdive]

@@billbeaumont1025 no, the KTM300EXC is road legal in many markets. Not California, but California isn't the whole world.

[@gasdive]

@@billbeaumont1025 PS, and euro 5 compliant. (as are GASGAS)

[@timh6845]

In the motorcycle world it is, unfortunately. If California was a country, it would be the fifth largest economy in the world. Just under Germany and above UK. This tail wags the whole global dog.

[@gasdive]

@@timh6845 I had hoped that the rise of the Asian markets would end that, but not yet it seems.

[@simongibbins1021]

The definition of serenity is a two stroke at full throttle.

[@stephenbates8370]

Awesome to see the finished product I remember when Chris started the concept massive props a lot of work gone in to get here and it's payed off spectacularly 👌

[@999lazer]

Thanks for watching Stephen

[@LordHolley]

I think it's really hard to compare these bikes, but if I had the extra money, I'd jump on that Langen immediately! It looks amazing. Handmade, lightweight, 2-stroke, this has to be incredible to ride, not to mention, it's highly unlikely you will see another one at the local motorcycles get together.

[@madbadger85]

I loved my Kawasaki kh250 I thrashed the living daylights out of it, 36,000 miles and about 200 spark plugs 😂 but it was so much fun especially the wheelies, 1979-1981 was a good time 👍

[@peteh7966]

I thrashed the absolute box off my first bike, an air cooled RD250, would frequently the front wheel air off the ground, while cranked over mid corner - I sold it to a young bloke who offered me a ride on it a few years later - I politely declined 🙂

[@PhilbyFavourites]

76 to 77 for me and only 12,000 miles on my KH250. KRV160P where are you now???

[@paddyfarrell7840]

CLUTCH SLIP WHEN CHANGING GEARS COASTING A coming up to a junction very professional

[@zerofighter42]

Yep. Some of the worst riding skills I've seen on YT, and thats saying something.

[@chauffeurmonkey]

Great review Max, very balanced. After many air cooled RDs, and RG500, I can't wait to get my Langen, due mid Spring :-)

[@999lazer]

You're a lucky man Tony, I bet you can't wait.

[@chauffeurmonkey]

@@999lazer And I got the number I wanted, 34. Production build number 22. I really can't wait to be a hooligan again 😁

[@kirstenspencer3630]

Congratulatons !

[@vincenthowey6639]

I have lost contact of how many bills I've owned but 2 of my all time favorite an wish I had now RD400 an first year cr125

[@keshified]

How 2 strokes half the displacement of 4 stroke counterparts have the same power output makes me happy

[@George.Andrews.]

Trail rides with my boy. DRZ400 and an RM125. We both burned the same amount of fuel over the same distance.

[@keshified]

@@George.Andrews. Is the RM125 more fun to ride? I'd imagine it being a smaller displacement means it's lighter

[@George.Andrews.]

@keshified we tuned the exhaust valve for less low down power and more above the power band it was fun hitting the power band, but it didn't have the grunt the DRZ400 had . Most tracks were about 26 kilometres, and even when the boy was young, we would get five laps done in a day. It was hard to find the energy to load the bikes at the end of the day when all you wanted to do was lay in the grass. He grew up, and I grew old.

[@keshified]

@@George.Andrews. seems like time well spent! Hope to have this with a kid of my own someday

[@George.Andrews.]

@@keshified it truly was. I hope you do. Stay fit.

[@andrewSUN17]

As a previous owner of 2 RZ350s and riding 2 stroke dirtbikes of all sorts since a little boy, I will never be truly happy until 2 strokes come back across the board! Bring em back...we want the sound and the smell...not to mention the powerband!!!

[@johnnyrvf]

I had a 1988 Suzuki RGV 250 which I ran on Putoline Oils. Never a problem. Excellent product.

[@LeeTillbury]

Nice video! Love that TZR. If you fitted the Sugo race kit and the SP crank and other bits it would make it a bit more evenly matched!

[@999lazer]

Roland who own the TZR also races TZ250's. He is a lucky guy :)

[@LeeTillbury]

@@999lazer He is!

[@steveoglesby4120]

My thoughts, exactly. I own a TZR 3xv1 (A 1991 model. Same as the '92). It runs a Zeeltronic ECU, SP Cylinders, DFR Pipes, TZ Pistons and an SP Crank. It produces a bit over 60hp with stock carbs and all the air injection/carb heating circuitry removed. I can only imagine how good a modern 2T would be.

[@steveoglesby4120]

@trixnorma4508 The Zeel is a miracle upgrade. You can tune the Power Valves, the ignition timing and (if you still have the air injection jets installed) control the air injection system. It also provides a hotter spark. Not very expensive for what it does. The guy who builds it owns a 3xv and is usually available for advice.

[@steveoglesby4120]

@trixnorma4508 The 3xv1 was restricted by Japanese law to 45hp. A good pipe, porting, head skim, Zeel and careful jetting can yield more than 60hp. Just putting on a Zeel is not recommended unless the bike is modded and tuned with new bore plating and pistons. If its fun for you now, just ride it. Have fun. Steve

[@chrishipwell9116]

Great bike. Love Chris’ drive and enthusiasm for 2 strokes. Reminds me of another bike enthusiast named John Britten. Bringing a thought to real life. Major leap they both took. And of course a big thanks to this channel. Always keeping it fresh!

[@999lazer]

Thanks Chris, appreciate your comment

[@jamesd2128]

Wow ! Two strokes live, and I'm thrilled there are brilliant people keeping it that way .

[@autodidact537]

Two-strokes have been kept alive in the snowmobile world where the Rotax ETEC voice coil direct-injection engine has been powering Skidoo's machines for well over a decade. Welcome to the 21st Century!

[@lriper4702]

I everyday ride to work my RGV250 VJ22, 26 years now. Greetings from Greece ❤

[@angus3963]

That TZR is absolutely gorgeous! I recently switched from 4 stroke street (89 FZR600 for almost 2 decades) to a 2018 Bet EVO 250 as my first 2 stroke. :D

[@brodiejones2028]

Sensational video. Great concept comparing old and new. This was the first review I've seen of the Langen. Interesting to hear how they'd advanced the lubrication with the aid of modern tech. Keep up the good work!

[@999lazer]

Glad you enjoyed it! thanks for watching Brodie

[@stephenpublicover8818]

Hey Mate, I had a 1976 Yamaha RD 400, modified, making 63 HP at the rear wheel, a quick little motorcycle, Power-band at 6500RPM, it hit hard!! Also had a 1988 Yamaha RZ 350 YPVS , with a much broader power band, Both fun Bikes!! Great video, Cheers!

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

Two strokes never died, the enviro weeenies just put them in stasis.

[@edwindude9893]

You’re right, two strokes produce CO2 exactly what the trees want.

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

@@edwindude9893 Who gives a fuck what the trees want, lmao.

[@dmag1234]

They complain about 2 strokes, while most of their belongings are made in China with no pollution control. The real reason for global warming.

[@jeffpiper7430]

as a ex yam 350rdlc rider i have never lost the love of 2 strokes , this bike is only a indication of what might have been if the big companies had continued with their 2 stroke r and d but the pollution laws scared them off .. enter the yrs of the 250 4 stroke 4 cyd high high reving bikes , my kaw 250 1999 model redlines at 19000 revs so its almost got the feel of a 2 stroke but not quite , at that price plus currency exchange it puts it completly out of reach here in australia unless u have a big loto win ... good luck to the langen team

[@danw1955]

Judging from the performance in the video, this bike isn't making anywhere near 78 hp. If it was, it would be pulling the front wheel up in every gear. From what I've read in several articles, these are destined to be a track-only motorcycle, since they still can't meet emissions in the U.S. High dollar doesn't necessarily equate to high performance and handling. I'd need to see it on the track to really get an idea of what it can do.

[@nightzin05]

to get the wheel up you need toque not hp

[@paulvoak6683]

There is a video from Vin's (they made the engine) running the Langen on a dyno, showing 76RWHP. The engine has been tweaked for road use and pulls from low down also making a fair amount of torque. This is it's standard map. Instead it can have an old school very peaky map, which will no doubt want to lift the front. They are only making 100 bikes. 3 that I know of to the States, several to Asia, a few to be raced. Most I believe will be sold to the UK market. All the early owners photo's show them used on public roads.

[@davetaylor4741]

Absolutely beautiful bike. And the way that he has it set up to make it easier to ride and less on off than the old two strokes. The weight is so low. Which is fantastic. In my lifetime we have gone 4 stroke. 2 stroke. And back to 4 stroke. Wouldn't it be nice to have a range of 2 strokes again before we all get resigned to electric power.

[@999lazer]

Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching

[@dukiemoto8676]

What a kicka$$ video!👏 The Langen is an amazing piece of kinetic art. One day I might get to see one in person.

[@kelsonorden7578]

Anyone notice that crazy tree house structure @ 2:59?

[@Nammalu_Koya]

Beautiful

[@mitsos_306]

Great video and great machine! I wish all the best to the Langen team! The biggest advantage it has compared to my NSR is in my opinion the electric starter!

[@stratosjoebar]

I had a Yamaha 3xv tzr 250 back on 1999 Over 6000 rpm up to 12000 rpm it was like an explosion of power. And it was stock . With those 45 hp you got 200 km/h top speed. And the handling was epic . I cornered all the margin of my Battlax tyres. And of course you had Yamaha reliability. I did trips of 150 km in one way distance with no problem. Castrol synthetic oil did a hell of a job. Those where fun days.

[@TheTestride]

Was completely satisfied with my peasant collection 2 of which I built myself ...... Now I am just pissed that I cannot afford one of these. Love everything about it.

[@rbwannasee]

Back in the day I had a RD350N2 YPVS, and a regular RD350LC that was ported all crazy. Neither of them had a wicked high top speed, but they were sure fun to ride - especially as both had aftermarket expansion chambers. The sound....

[@mrsneakyburt]

So awesome that this video popped up when it did, just picked up a 1989 TZR125 yesterday!

[@rickybanzai2199]

I'm desperatly in love with the tzr, the most beautiful bike ever. I think the comparison is not completely fair, because the 3xv complained with japanese regulations, so she had only 45 hp. A theoretical export version would be some 60/65, and that's would be a fight...Aprilia rs250 were the last sport smoker, and they were around 70 hp. I understand the project of the Langen, but this way you cut out all the 2 strokes fans who does not have a lot of money. The future will be assured when a major producer (Ma' Yamaha, can tou hear meeeeee.....?????) will put on the market a modern, reasonably priced 2 stroke. Fuel injection is the key, the thermical part is essentially always the same. Thx for the video - I envy you a lot.

[@999lazer]

Roland has a road legal TZ250 race bike too with 70+ HP, but for the road he much prefers to ride the standard bike as the power delivery is nicer. Thanks for watching Ricky.

[@rickybanzai2199]

@@999lazer Where I live the pure idea of a road legal tz250 is pure madness. Our law on modifications says: 1: NO 2: Don't even think about it 3: Forget it. 4: ok, if you really want it go to German's TUV and come back, for a 5000 eur you can do it. And we are talking about stock bike (or car) you just want to mod or upgrade. Getting street legal a racebike....? Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa...... I envy you....

[@brodiejones2028]

Thanks!

[@999lazer]

wow , thanks. Really appreciate that Brodie.

[@seanys]

I’m not just surprised to see a TZR in one piece. I’m stunned to see such an immaculate one.

[@Bassalicious]

Finally! A road bike after my own taste! 120KG is the best advertisement you could make for me. That in combination with 76HP and you just know this thing is a blast to ride. This trend of ludicrously heavy street bikes has been going on since the 80's and departures from is have been few and far between. I might be in love. Too bad I'm from Germany and I'd bet my left butt cheek it's impossible to register here.

[@TheAsheybabe89]

So register it somewhere else in Europe and drive it in Germany 😆. I'd assume you'd have the means if you have the spare money for this quite expensive bike.

[@Bassalicious]

@@TheAsheybabe89 That's only legal to do for up to 12 months and its "usual" location can't be in Germany so you'd have to buy a house in Britain or something. I do not have the financial means to pull something like that off, nor the diligence for that matter. A millionaire with a dual citizenship might.

[@Funminotaur]

Seeing the TZR 250 is so cool. I have the little brother as shown in my profile pic. It is a tuned 50cc cilinder with 28mm carb and it is a dream to ride.

[@siraff4461]

Jammy, jammy burger. I would say I'm jealous but thats nowhere near a strong enough word. Can't afford it but I'm so glad some people can.Now how about doing a version for those of us with slightly more normal budgets?

[@kaekae4010]

I can only talk about what I know and it is the TZR, the good thing about the TZR was its Deltabox chassis, I did 40k km with one and I never had any problems, it never bit my hand, it was the noblest motorcycle I have ever owned, that motorcycle simply invited you to run.

[@Sugar_K]

the race kitted version of the 92 tzr250 sp is 69hp at the rear wheel ... and weight wise these things are more like 135kg with 5lt of gas.. race trim my mates was 105kg.. lots of parts from this model were a straight swap for the Yamaha tz250 B so you could build a real beast if you wanted

[@jmanab5438]

Come to Canada and try a 850 turbo sled. That's the pinnacle of 2 stroke tech. With warranty.

[@Spip-yt6dx]

Nothing will erase the memory of my TZR, a small 50 cc 2-stroke with 6 speed , a very comfortable seat with a 13-litre tank, Over the years I have increased its power (it is forbidden) raising the engine to 22,000 rpm making the dial trot at the rpm needle. With a short transmission it was impossible to change gears fast enough even if I was not using the clutch With a long transmission I entered the highway (strictly forbidden) overtaking trucks and cars on a 2 wheel which was not supposed to exceed 45 km/h (it's the law) this machine out of hell could pass the 140 km / h What a pleasure it was to line it up for a run with friends leaving them far behind sometimes I even won against 125 cc It was with her that I had the biggest fright but it was with her that I had the greatest pleasure So I agree there are much more powerful motorcycles but the pleasure of having developed this mechanism and of making his 2-stroke engine roar to its last entrenchment The years have passed I have calmed down and 24 years later I still have its engine on a shelf at the back of the garage nostalgically remembering all those good and bad times spent with her

[@rdallas81]

Beautiful words! The little engine that could!

[@Lochlann13]

This thing would look absolutely killer with clip on, cafe racer style bars.

[@999lazer]

They do it with clips on too :)

[@jdsstegman]

Bummer I live in the US. I have my collection of vintage 2 strokes. Most of the most popular 70's 2 strokes. I put an 75 rd 350 engine in a 1994 ninja 250 frame. It's a fun bike. The oil injection sounds like what skidoo did with theor sleds. Thays my favorite toy. 2023 skidoo summit 850.

[@anyajackson4723]

I remember first buying a Yamaha RD250LC in the 80s somewhere? in black with belly pan it was a very dangerous love affair! Like the Langan put FUN into riding.

[@Extremegaz25]

If money was no option the langen would definitely be in my collection, which for the price tag will unfortunately be the case, collector's or exotic motorcycles of which this is one of a kind will buy these to look at. Fantastic two stroke machine.

[@WattersZ]

I genuinely think two strokes are the way to go, I'm working on some cool stuff to clean them up and keep them with their roots

[@PhilbyFavourites]

Love your excitement, it’s infectious…

[@Chaos_God_of_Fate]

I've still got an 89 Honda VTR-250 in the Garage, it looks a bit like the older Bike in this Video- so fun to Ride!

[@carstenweiland7896]

2 strokes feel and sound so energetic, love them.

[@toucheturtle3840]

Had an RD350lc2 back in the day. Cost me £1400. That was plenty of bang for the buck. Miles & miles of smiles😁

[@ryanhaldane5168]

Adding this to the list of things I wish I could afford, amazing bit of kit

[@notpoliticallycorrect1303]

My first brand new bike was a TZR 250,my dad bought it for passing my test and my birthday,both the same week and then announced that we were that night going off on a two week tour of north Wales,him on his 750 Honda,Great days👍I hated that bike after two weeks in the saddle😂,though not as much as I hated the sight of the back of the old man's bike disappearing into the distance at every straight.

[@dp8685]

I had a YAM TDR250 tuned by Stan stephens making around 60hp. Didn’t cost 35k. Probably just as fun and nearly as quick.

[@dimensionsofearth]

So cool you and you Dad film these together!

[@5tr41ghtGuy]

Not sure why some are hating on the price of the Langen - it is incredibly lightweight, has amazing power to weight ratio, *and* is road legal. This is a no-compromises toy for people who can afford it.

[@chloedevereaux1801]

i had one of the first tzr250 v twins imported into the UK in 92...... she was the fastest thing on the road...... she made 67bhp at the back wheel straight out the shipping crate........ nothing could touch her...........

[@smokerman81]

Why are you using the clutch to shift?

[@davidmacphee3549]

I wondered if the plans could be sold to Kawasaki who could bring the price way, Way down and make it their next real Super bike with their own advancements? Or would that mean they would take his rights away any bury the plans some where. They must be aware of these possibitys they know their stuff.. Maybe he should just licence it to them. A couple of Million bucks is cool but to Kawasaki it's chump change. They are more likely to toss 2M just to shut him up. He is in a no lose situation if the bike is really, really good and very different! There other buyers. If this is not too good to be true. bring it on! 2 strokes Forever !

[@Porsche996driver]

That’s wild! Man that 2 stroke sound like an old Puchs moped - but you are flying lol.

[@kitedj123]

Seeing you on road bikes makes me think you might be interested in a little ongoing project i have going at the moment. Got an old factory SP cagiva engine for the mito from the mid 90's, gonna be building a full SP bike out of it with genuine SP parts. Think that might tickle your fancy?

[@robertchapman6795]

The silhouette of the Langen is quite similar to an LC. If only I was cashed up! I’ll make do with my ‘83 RZ250ypvs. Well once I’ve restored the basket case. I sold a TZR250 3xv1 (1991) two years ago, that I had for a decade. Unrestricted and upset many litre bikes on the shorter tracks. When I bought the new gen R6 in 2006, it felt like a fat powerful 3xv. The chassis feel was incredibly similar. Thanks for a good vid! 👍

[@arthurdunga345]

that Langen is so crazy modern brilliant i want one good effort from the fella that made it,well done.

[@999lazer]

Totally agree, thanks for watching Arthur

[@Dave5843-d9m]

I want to see the Rotax ETEC in a bike. 800cc 160 bhp better fuel consumption and lower emissions than similar power four strokes.

[@cosmovg9955]

That exhaust is absolutely comical and im all for it😂

[@Drunken_Hamster]

You can have a more natural motion blur and by extension much nicer overall look to your footage if you drop your shutter speed down to 1/60th of a second. In addition to this, 50fps at 1/60th of a second can record in an NTSC country without lights flickering. You can also drop half the frames and have a 25p cinematic sequence that doesn't look terrible due to the 1/100th shutter speed typical of 50p. You could also slow it down by 2x without it looking too choppy or sharp and still use it in the same timeline, and only go for 100fps for super slowmo.

[@shuenshuen]

It seems you know your stuff, so I'll just throw a question out there; do you have any recommendations for a budget helmet camera? I'm talking ~100 euros. I just drive mopeds 50-70cc 2 strokes so nothing extreme, but I wanna get some nice wheelie clips n stuff

[@Drunken_Hamster]

@@shuenshuen I don't really know about specific products, sorry.

[@shuenshuen]

@@Drunken_Hamster thanks anyways 👍🏼

[@DeezyNut]

And to think there were a group of guys in Japan that built a zx-25rr to 100+ HP is insane Especially it is 4 stroke

[@matttaafe8039]

Where?? Never heard of it, I call bs on na zx25 100hp.

[@paulvoak6683]

@@matttaafe8039 Maybe with Nitro just before it blew up?

[@RottenAnimal]

Please make a 750 cc v4.

[@darylsmioth1904]

I thought they were going to collide at 10:48 but remembered you guys drive in opposite lanes. That 250 screams.

[@vivekpadale4266]

The engine is sounding great but I think it needs a better bigger clutch because it did sound like there was some slippage or drag what ever you say.

[@JohnSmith-sj2dk]

I have never gotten over my RG500 back in the late '80's, since then have had a ZXR750, several R6's and now a MT09SP, but just compareto the raw power/weight ratio of the 2 stroker...

[@thomasarie77]

2stroke never die 🔥🔥🔥 and i have one.. kawasaki ninja 150cc and love this so much....

[@Not_Sure-2020]

I'd like to see what they could do with 2 YZ250s ;)

[@StimmedPenguin]

If any of the big manufacurors would build an affordable package in a lightweight adv form with a 2t they’d have themselves a winner. I doubt it’d happen though… If I had the play money on hand I’d happily grab a bike like this to support efforts like this to keep 2t alive! Sub 300 lbs fun.

[@philsince59]

I was thinking the same thing! With such light weight and so much power with only 250 cc's LOL! that would be the ultimate adventure bike with the coolness factor of a two-stroke V-Twin would just be off the charts! I love my 2020 Suzuki V-Strom XT ADV with about 70 horsepower from its four-stroke V-Twin but that hog weighs over 500 lbs LOL!

[@autodidact537]

The 2-stroke engine is alive & well in the snowmobile world. Skidoo has been using the Rotax ETEC voice-coil direct-injection engine to power their machines for well over a decade. Other manufacturers have been using electronic piston-port fuel injection for a long time now as well. This isn't new technology. Welcome to the 21st Century!

[@steveoglesby4120]

The TZR 3xv was hamstrung to 45hp by Japanese Law. A new ignition ECU, porting and 36mm carb can approach 70 hp and retain rid-ability. The TZR engine cases are the same as those from a TZ race bike. Grafting TZ cylinders and pistons can yield 80 hp.

[@knightryder4021]

I have a 98 Yamaha 135 two stroke and just love that machine ❤

[@ArenderBros]

No smokes???? THIS IS AWESOME..... I want one

[@ofoosy]

I mostly ride UJM's and cruisers parallel twins and v4's, Haven't owned a bike in age past 1986. But I've always wanted a sport bike. And when I do. It's gonna be a 2 stroke. I love them to death.

[@hisyamaks539]

I owned a 2 stroke Suzuki TXR150 back in the late 90s, it's a beast i tell ya

[@dylanzrim3635]

Thanks for talking over the engine..

[@MyNameishidden-l2f]

thank you for your hard work and also to Chris and the Italian ex-Ferrari F1 engine builder (Vicenze?)...I sincerely hope and pray this bike succeeds though i have not the necessary money now

[@benhoward4294]

I thought tighter emissions controls meant the demise of two strokes? How does the Langen stack up against latest emission regs? Nice looking bike and long overdue ECU development to make the on/off feeling of power more progressive. 👍👍

[@wordreet]

You can get a classic 1987 RD350LC for less than six grand right now, or an original 1981 for nine grand. Admittedly they only have 47bhp, but they are still big fun to ride and sweet handling relatively light weight bikes! My original was stolen. . .

[@Subaruktm]

This man drovethat thing with no Jacket. Respect

[@todaytrendz8375]

2 stroke engine with modern brakes! Every man’s dream

[@billyhong5071]

Fantastic! More road strokers please

[@999lazer]

Thanks Billy, I'll see what I can do :)

[@DreadheadAngel11]

If this ever hits the U.S. market I will definitely ride one

[@kelvinchan2756]

Man....how I miss the sound of the 2 strokes!

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

Really does that crazy frog "waaaaaaah bim bim bim bim bim ... waaaaaah iiiiiiiiiii." Thing.

[@RulgertGhostalker]

The Lubrication System: he must have forgotten to mention the part it plays in the emissions, which is why it would have made it to commercial mass production in the first place....an understated additional benefit.

[@QQallan]

What brand of 2t oil they use? I see no smoke at all.

[@kevinmee3501]

Nice video Max, you are the 2 stroke king, beautiful bike's shown , manufacturers are missing a trick dropping 2 stroke bikes , totally unexpected this video but I totally enjoyed it and hope everyone else did to.

[@999lazer]

Thanks Kevin, appreciate your comment as always. I think you'll like next weeks video too .... YZilla's first race :)

[@kevinmee3501]

@@999lazer we love all you're videos, yes and let the games begin.