The World's Most EFFECTIVE Shotgun Ammo?! (Self Defense)

[@1ShotTV]

Best ballistic dummy head removal on the internet so far? I haven’t seen one better. Let me know what you think! Thanks for watching.

[@gyromurphy]

Duuuuuuuude holy shit!!!!! I've never ever seen that happen before. Even Kentucky Ballistics hasn't made a head vaporize like that. I'm pretty sure he's used a 700 nitro on ballistic heads, and they didn't do that. Absolutely incredible.

[@dandylion1987]

Could you do some testing with large birdshot magnums? Perhaps #1 birdshot, BB etc. Thanks!

[@Steelcity77]

Definitely a proper wig splitting.👍🏻

[@RichardCranium321]

Spicy round vs Sternum in slow motion, PLEASE!

[@RichardCranium321]

​@@dandylion1987"birdshot is for birds" - Clint Smith But in all seriousness, the prosecutors will go nutz if you use a magnum turkey load. It wasn't even relevant to the Murtaugh double homicide but they still went on & on about the 16 ga magnum turkey load that was in the homeowners gun cabinet. Son was hit with 2 rounds of 12ga to the chest/face & Wife shot in back with 300 blackout that was likely carried by the son before he was shot - but neither gun was ever found nor the spent hulls. Son had been involved in the death of a young woman and the family helped cover it up, but prosecutor charged the father with their murders because he was caught stealing money from his law firm and they knew it'd be an easy conviction despite his phone AND car GPS geolocation showed he was not home, he was at his mother's home when the murders took place, but they still convicted him because he had a lot of shotguns & magnum ammo that the prosecutors spent an entire day showing off as evidence, and that was enough for the jury to convict him.

[@JugglesGrenades]

In 8 years as a paramedic, I only had ONE patient who survived a shotgun blast. It was a 20 gauge, loaded with birdshot.... across a parking lot (35-40 yards) Every (EVERY) other person I saw with a shotgun wound was either dead when we arrived, or expired before reaching the ER.

[@supremeaction9026]

Dang man where do you work??

[@guavavodka]

are rubber bullets generally (very) non-lethal? what is the incident rate? looking for self defense reasons where you can get fucked legally if you kill them

[@vegeta420z]

@supremeaction9026 The waffle house in ATL. He the line cook

[@businesswithredbeard]

​@@vegeta420z 🤣🤣

[@tom-c1j2p]

MAYBE IF YOU DIDNT MAKE THEM WAIT TO SIGN IN AND SIT IN WAITING AREA FOR AN HOUR THEY COULD HAVE LIVED

[@johnconway8492]

I was a corrections officer in the 80s and 90s in NY. We were trained with.38 revolvers and shotguns . Wood stocked police 870’s were the norm. Recently a young friend of mine was in training for his police job. He told me that they mostly trained with AR15 and just a little with shotgun. He said some of the senior officers told him they preferred the shotgun. He asked what I thought. I agreed. I cherish my 870 shotguns.

[@HMMurdock220]

I was a cop in a major city in the mid 2000’s. We had access to both an 870 and an AR-15. I was in my mid-20’s but I am the only one that ever (always) opted for a shotgun. I honestly think it was the “cool” factor of the AR over the shotty as to why they always took the Carbine but I swear by my 12ga.

[@haroldbell213]

The 870 is a great shotgun. The older ones was better. A lot less steel on the newer ones.

[@LandCrow]

Less quality control on the new ones too

[@lastofthe4horsemen279]

Yeah lf l was a CO l would want a shotgun.

[@PRDMRE]

I tactical trained with Shotguns, and they are far more lethal, than AR in the close ranges cops use

[@CeltKnight]

Way back in the Dark Ages when I began my LEO career (late '80s/early '90s), I tended to carry slugs in my issued 20" (later 14") Remington 870. I was not happy with the idea of a stray round of buckshot wandering away. Probably over-thought it, but that's where my mind was at. Later, I had it where first round up was our issued 00B, figuring in a dire enough situation, I'd be very close. The next 3 rounds were 1oz slugs. The last few years of my career, though, we got the then-new Federal Premium 00B with "Flite-Control" wads. Man, that stuff stayed TIGHT in every shotgun I tested it in. Once while I was running night quals, a grumpy sgt shot the slug part of his qualifications inadvertently still loaded with that Federal buckshot. 1 shot from 50 y, 2 from 40y, 2 from 25 y ... and every single pellet was still on the torso of the silhouette target! Every. Single. Pellet. Even retired, that's what I run in my shotguns to this very day.

[@agunther08]

Agreed Sir. Flite control is great stuff.

[@davidperry3778]

Great information.

[@bertkilborne6464]

I've been trying to handload buckshot rounds that are as effective as Flite Control It's sort of tricky, but not impossible - Use hard lead shot and some other stuff

[@CeltKnight]

@@bertkilborne6464 That's cool! I'm not currently set up to reload but want to get back into it. If you figure out a load that works, I'd sure appreciate you letting me know!

[@djocharablaikan8601]

Why not use a choke if you are worried about the spread?

[@duaneyoutbe]

This guy is doing everybody here watching, a big favor. It takes a lot of money to completely make this video for everybody’s education on this subject. And he shares this information that cost him a lot of money for free. His time ( lifetime of experience ) His effort His resources ( even over his lifetime ) His strategic mindset. I could go on and on but hopefully most here will understand where my statements could go in length about what it took to come to making this video for all of you to learn from.

[@americanpatriot3344]

Absolutely.

[@alfredoballesteros2764]

People get paid or get free stuff. Advertising

[@TheDrifter250]

You do know that companies send people ammo (sometimes guns n accessories like optics, lights n lazers) for free to showcase and people do make $$ from KZbin videos not only from views but ads as well. This is either his primary job or a hobby revenue stream that he gets to make $$ doing what he enjoys... shooting guns n talkin' ammo.

[@RagingBad]

He gets paid for this

[@LastEarBender]

That was an epic head explosion- first you see the gasses from the barrel- then the blank go off & then the head turn to mist & chunks. This channel really deserves more love than it gets. 👍

[@jedironin380]

The very definition of "vaporized!" 😱

[@jojack228]

Yes. But Kentucky ballistics vaporized 2 in a row with the 4 bore 😅

[@jedironin380]

@jojack228 Yes, but the 4-bore is somewhat "less than ideal" as a home defense weapon, considering most of us can't even lift it! 😆

[@melbourne-heat.69-71]

My friend moved to Kentucky after his first divorce he got remarried..He was drinking vodka he was threatening to kill himself with that same shotgun when his mother-in-law went to the phone to call 911 he put it up against her face 1 inch away and pulled the trigger..Then his wife and 17-year-old teenager ran out of the house screaming.. supposedly he sat in the chair in his bare feet and pulled the trigger with his toe, the other Story I Heard the 17-year-old came back into the house and said this is what you get for killing my grandmother and put the shotgun right behind my friend's head and killed him..RIP-B..He was the nicest guy in the world even when he was drinking I never even seen him yell at anybody..Sad for both families..🙏🙏

[@myntultryp3685]

out of all the deadly ammo videos Ive seen(which is pretty high), that had to be the most _Savage_ headshot I ever witnessed! 🤯

[@richardpcrowe]

I was filming a Marine M-60 machine gun position one evening at dusk along a trail in Vietnam - when two VC carrying AK's tripped a flare. Before the MG gunner got a shot off, a Marine NCO knocked out both Charlies with his Model 97 at a range of about 15-20 yards. His two rounds neutralized the sixty or so rounds carried by the VC. I have been a fanboy of the 12 gauge shotgun as a defense weapon ever since that evening. I use a Remington 870 with a factory issued short barrel. Although I once converted this weapon with a folding stock and pistol grip - I have returned it to its original wooden stock configuration. The only modification I have done with this 870 is to add a flashlight under the barrel (mine includes a red dot) and to add a shell holder on the stock. I have not added a longer magazine tube but have removed the spacer from the magazine which gives me four rounds plus one in the chamber. I don't expect to reenact the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral. I use OO buck and I don't have any neighbors close to worry about over penetration. If I were in a house with several people who might be in adjoining rooms or if I lived in a dwelling that shared walls with an adjoining residence - I might think about using smaller shot because of reduced penetration. At the ranges within a "normal" house (3-10 yards) #2 or #6 shot would be very effective. Hell - even birdshot would stop a bad guy at close ranges.

[@jozefhorvat3625]

Flashlight UNDER BARREL includes RED DOT ??? WTF...!!!😂😂😂

[@kindercannon2280]

@@jozefhorvat3625assuming he meant a red laser?

[@jozefhorvat3625]

@@kindercannon2280 Agreed 👍

[@jameslalley3787]

I can attest to the power of my 870 ! From 25 yards I fired a 2 3/4 “ load of 00 buckshot at the lead doe coming at me ! It dropped her and the two directly behind her! I had the tags to cover the harvests but a bunch of cleanup! Buckshot is devastating!

[@timgaluza576]

Thank you for sharing, I only use buck shot for home defense too. I don't want to hurt my neighbors either

[@winn305]

There's a guy from Kentucky that hates eggplants ... I strongly believe that he would approve of that headshot.

[@jamesshort779]

Yeah he would 😂

[@pearljaime2]

The tactical pt cruiser will pay a visit

[@alecennis9746]

Kentucky ballistics would most definitely approve

[@marktwain2053]

Just don't be around when he's using the .50 BMG.

[@liamsmith1413]

Hey I think I know that guy

[@sirdanoman]

I have my Vepr12 staged with 000 Buck for HD. Brenneke slugs for Griz, Sasquatch, T Rex, dump trucks, and other similar criitters.

[@russell83605]

I have a Mossberg 590. I use it as my outside the house critter gun(both two and four legged). The first round is #8 birdshot, followed by two 00 buckshot rounds, the last round is a slug. I am guessing that will take care of most situations. Yes, I have backup ammo ready to hand.

[@Rubeless]

Horrible plan.

[@E3742O]

Why birdshot lol

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

Dump the birdshot and get #4 buck instead if you're worried about over penetration. Still good for home at short distances and a good spread for coyotes at 30+ yards. I keep slugs in Spanker velcro side saddles along with more 00. Update: I have since acquired #2 birdshot shells. Haven't tested them yet but I also bought a roll crimper intending to convert cheap birdshot shells into wax slugs.

[@mosheshekelsteinspanbergbl5624]

​@@E3742Obirdshot works, even at a fair distance, unless the OPFOR is wearing quality safety glasses. What most commenters don't realize is, shotguns make headshots at centermass speed easy out to 20 to 75 meters depending on barrel length.

[@jimmycharlene]

​@@mosheshekelsteinspanbergbl5624hickock will gong a Shockwave

[@550jenko]

Whenever I watch the big internet gun channels I find myself fast forwarding to the actual proper gun bit, some of them have become silly, this fella on the other hand is fantastic and I always watch the entire videos from start to finish, brilliant stuff.

[@anangryranger]

Years ago, as a peace officer, we were not "allowed" to have an AR15 in our units. However, 12ga shotguns were the norm. Oddly, only about 25% of the officers I worked with would carry a 12ga. Many a rookie would ask me why I carry a shotgun. I'd tell them because they, "admin", won't let me carry a rifle.

[@anangryranger]

@@Echosdad2 Roger that! 👍

[@jedironin380]

I was always surprised that no Officers involved with the infamous "LA Bank Heist" had slugs for their shotguns. Seems to me those would have really slowed down the bad guys, even with their body armor.

[@anangryranger]

@@jedironin380 Most agencies restricted the use of slugs. Too worried about being sued over their use. My own agency had standing orders that use of slugs required an order by a supervisor on, or near the scene.

[@jedironin380]

@@anangryranger Thanks! If that case didn't didn't require slugs, I don't know what would! ;)

[@anangryranger]

@@jedironin380 Oh I agree! Most of the time, a Sgt. would litterly deliver slugs to an officer, since we were only allowed 00 buck in the units. It was really stupid! Thank God that's all changed! 👍

[@Tigger1981]

Personally, buck shot for home defense is a great stopper. This is especially true when the intruder is hopped up on some kind of drugs. When I was younger, about 30 years ago, I heard a couple of my uncle talking about pcp. I didn't know exactly what it was, only about 11 at the time. They talked about a man who was shot 17 times with pistols before dropping. They found out later that he was in the "superman" drug as it was known then. I do like the bird shot for self defense for it will not go into the neighbors house and injure or kill an innocent person, slug would after exiting the intruder. The buck shot is my personal choice of home defense for it had the stopping power without the over kill.

[@CC-gv6us]

Great info, thanks

[@Tigger1981]

@@CC-gv6us yes sir, just a little ink from my uncles and grandpa

[@miman-ck9jv]

Try bringing a good flashlight and shine it on the backside of the gel when your explaining things might help us see a little better, thanks 👍

[@lhkraut]

I'm so glad your channel is growing. Your videos are always informative. Keep up the great work!

[@joeterp5615]

That head disappearing is frightening. It almost seems like CGI magic as it is such a complete annihilation.

[@DrewishAF]

3:08 "Shot through the heart, and YOU'RE to blame; You give buckshot....a GREAT name!"

[@almaadams3631]

Bon Jovi.....yuck. ( OK the cowboy song was pretty good)

[@cgsimons1187]

Great video! Those spicy slugs look highly effective. It would also be nice to see comparison of #4 and #1 buck to 00 buck.

[@kodiakkeith]

I've compared #4 to 00 and the #4 is far more devastating and has plenty of penetration at 10-15 yards. Federal used to make a 34 pellet #4 but they seem to have discontinued it in favor of standard 27 pellet loads. I wish they'd bring it back.

[@baptistgaming91]

​@@kodiakkeiththe only issue for #4 is barrier penetration. 00 can pass through light cover such as windshield and still maintain decent penetration. #4 loses much of that capability. Yeah #4 does produce what is likly technically a more severe wound cavity on unobstructed target, however 00 will obviously stop the target too. I'd sleep well with both in the shotgun. But 00 does have an advantage, if you care about barrier penetration.

[@kodiakkeith]

@@baptistgaming91 Yeah, #4 is strictly home defense, but at that job it beats anything else.

[@oddish4352]

​@@kodiakkeithEven 27 pellets of #4 is incredibly devastating up close. And the lighter throw weight gives you less recoil, which is a sizable plus if you've got two or three unwelcome visitors.

[@Kinetic.44]

3 inch magnum BB load with full choke... hamburger

[@williamteague2291]

I would like to see #4 buck vs. turkey loads st home defense range

[@SaftonYT]

My understanding as a mildly-informed layman is that a test like this where you shoot at this sort of target, which provides a strong visual stimulus -- but little in the way of context -- strongly favors the slug. As you said the slug is a massive projectile which tends to smash whatever is in its way, creating visually impressive entry and exit wounds. Buckshot, at its core, works by creating as many bleeding wound channels as possible (so long as each wound channel is deep enough to reliably reach vital organs). However, with 00 each individual pellet is a just a .33 caliber round ball weighing about 50-60 grains -- it doesn't do any more damage than, say, a .32 ACP FMJ round would... but when eight or nine of them strike the target at once, the dynamic changes massively. Also, despite common belief, the tighter the pattern, the greater the trauma (generally speaking). While having a looser pattern might increase the chances of striking another vital organ along the periphery your impact zone, in general buckshot loads that impact with multiple pellets that strike closer to one another are capable of inflicting more trauma. However, where slugs really shine is against bone. The bone simulants in ballistics dummies doesn't always represent the hardness, density, and obliquity of actual skeletal structures very well. Pistol-caliber rounds -- to say nothing of buckshot pellets -- have a track record of deflecting off of bones, especially certain ones. Slugs perform far better due to their inherent characteristics (shape, mass, inertia) and have a greater chance of either fracturing bones outright or at least resisting drastic deflection. Again, this is just what I've picked up from a variety of sources over the years. There are no doubt exceptions to everything I've said here and I don't pretend to be an expert.

[@SaftonYT]

@@worstcase519 It's okay, it's just text on a screen. It won't hurt you just because it's longer than one sentence, I promise.

[@SaftonYT]

@CB-nh1su So I'm a white knight for answering some silly person who complains about the length of my own comment when they easily could have scrolled past it? And the fact that you saw fit to have your little hissy fit and then delete your comments makes it that much more hilarious. "Sit and spin", bud.

[@kentuckywindage222]

1SHOT, any doubt you have left about, a close encounter with a shotgun let me say deviation. Matter of fact I just got home from the doc. still have lots of issues and complications. As you know my encounter was in 1993 and those impacts on that torso had some memories along with them. I was hoping you would do a 5ft. lower right flank from rear. Per perp was aiming center chest/stomach, I spun throwing my right arm up to protect my face. That spin and bowing forward some put it in my rear lower right flank. You are also right on the spread. Entrance was cantaloupe size and exit baseball in my abdomen. Anyways your channel is doing great! Great video with lot's of knowledge nuggets. Keep'em coming!

[@joeterp5615]

Glad you are still here to tell us about it. I can’t imagine what it must have been like to go through that. Were you able to call 911? Or was there someone close by who did that or who drove you to the hospital?

[@kentuckywindage222]

@@joeterp5615 Someone after a while heard me trying to get attention. I was working. Lost 7 sections of rib, kidney, right lung, half liver with 5 shrapnel in what I have, part of intestine half muscle in right back, pancreas damage, 127 shrapnel and bone shards up and down my spine, 2 shot in right hip and one shot in right elbow joint etc. 3 surgeries. Gave 13 pints of blood. Learned to walk again twice. Ambulance picked me up and stopped at clinic where a doctor stuffed me with towels and gave plasma. He rode in the Ambulance to hospital and we became friends after. I went back to work in a small town as a city officer 2 years later. Main thing I learned is there is definitely something after all this. I had a NDE. Good talking with you. God bless 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@halfcirclehranch]

What I'd like to see is someone testing the effectiveness of various types of birdshot. Do some #8 light target, move up to some high brass like that 7.5 used here, move on to, say, some #4 turkey shot, some BB shot, and maybe even move up to something like T or F shot.

[@AlyssaSchmidt-b4t]

I’d like to see him test some of the newer tungsten and bismuth duck shells. I would bet a 3” tungsten or bismuth 4 shot would be pretty nasty

[@johnhughes6836]

A guy by the name of Paul Harrell has videos posted that you would definitely be interested in. He’s tested ammo penetration and patterning for 12, 20, and even .410 gauge shotguns. Very thorough.

[@robertlipperd7352]

I'll second the request for the BB shot. About to order 250. Quite sure my high velocity #2 ( 1650fps ) would be jut as effective as OO buck at a self-defense close range shot. Dead=dead. That doesn't mean I don't have plenty of buck shot though.

[@frankfreeman1444]

I have always preferred #1 buckshot for close in. More pellets, still 30 caliber, less over- pentration, so all the energy is delivered to the perp. In AZ for duty I always loaded #1, slug, #1 slug...

[@darrellm4268]

That spicy slug I have never seen a head disappear like that. That was awesome who in the world makes those ? I need some of those

[@jim7042]

Excellent question, where do we get those?

[@RyderGroveSt]

*rubs chin*

[@vernedesenko7409]

I wondered the same thing. Having a few around would give me a warm fuzzy.

[@DaltonUber]

@@vernedesenko7409 He said spicy powder so I wonder if those are hand made with tannerite.

[@HalfWarrior]

It’s very cool to see you’re shooting left handed; I am and was the same until I became paralyzed on my left side from a stroke. Awesome video; thank you sir!

[@bunk95]

Strokes are fictional…

[@terrywadsworth5645]

​@@bunk95And you're irrational...

[@TakManSan]

7:17 it appears the side benefit is not only separate wound-tracks but also it spreads the initial wound open wide. It initially punched a void the size of a cantaloupe in the abdomen. That is savage! Penetration would be low but against protection would hit like a ton of bricks.

[@jacobackley502]

Heads up, those sterling slugs are only going some 1250fps and it’s a 1 oz slug. The box says it’s 1 1/8 but if you cut it out it only weighs 1. The plastic wad, when it’s attached, does bring it up to 1 1/8th oz though. Winchester, federal, or Remington standard 1 oz slugs are moving much faster

[@jedironin380]

Good ol' Remington Sluggers seem to be hard to beat. Been around forever, too.

[@jcoolG192]

Chrono'd Sterling and Winchester recently. Out of a 19" barrel, the Sterling averaged 1349 fps. The Winchester Super X was 1487 fps.

[@jacobackley502]

@@jcoolG192 that sounds about right. My guess of 1250 was based on the recoil, I can’t remember what it was when I chronoed it

[@jcoolG192]

@@jacobackley502 definitely less recoil than the Winchester load. Quite a bit different really. I probably would have guessed 1250ish as well.

[@tommyspann8852]

12 gauge, 3", 00 buckshot for the win. My 870 is cruiser ready with the plug out. 18.5 barrel. It's my backup weapon.

[@greenyoshi777]

You really don't need 3 inch. In fact reduced recoil 2.75's out of a Mossberg 940 is pretty much the best for rapid follow up shots.

[@tommyspann8852]

@@greenyoshi777 What I said was for most effective, not for what I actually have loaded.. 2 3/4 is what mine has in the tube.

[@greenyoshi777]

@@tommyspann8852 didn't come across that way.

[@tommyspann8852]

@@greenyoshi777 I'm sorry. But it was what I meant.

[@Bathtubcrocodile]

​@@greenyoshi777 What is best is what you've familiarized yourself with.

[@kennyfryman3634]

Thanks!

[@johnmello978]

12 GA has yet to be surpassed as the deadliest self defense weapon. Its versatility of ammo can be adjusted for any scenario from an apartment to a Ranch its power makes handguns look like BB guns . Good 12 Gauges are affordable to just about anyone buy a lo ger barrel you can hunt anything g from duck to quail deer to Bear and Boar. They do it all reliably.

[@josephmctschern3005]

Thanks Jesse, great video! There's no question that shotguns are very effective. I read a report where a businessman had to use a self-defense shot (00 buck) in his camp. The warehouse is 150 inches wide, 200 inches long and 90 inches high and is constructed of 8-inch cinder blocks filled with poured concrete. The attacker lost his arm including his machete and the businessman lost 80% of his hearing in his left ear, and 100% of his hearing in his right ear. The sound pressure level of a 00 Buck is +/-137 dB. Things would have turned out differently outdoors, but in a small closed room, the level rises.

[@guillermomaguire5394]

Perhaps do a video on minishells. How many of our family members are going to use the loads you demonstrated? The entire reason we at OPSol developed the Flex adapter is so our wives and daughters would (key word there....would) use a shotgun for home defense. Federal is making 6 00 buck rounds now in mini (they call them shorty), as well as 4 buck. After 6 years of selling the adapter for the Mossberg 500 pump, AND having Mossberg develop the Shockwave after have our adapter, and seeing the market for minishells grow, Federal got into the market, and Mossberg re designed their 500 platform to run minis.

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

I've got that adapter for my Mav 88. Picked up some Federal and Aguila minishells (availability not so good in Canada) but haven't had a chance to test them yet. Edit: But as you reference, my main motivation for getting these was to teach my granddaughters to shoot a 12 gauge. Thank you for your product!

[@guillermomaguire5394]

@@KevinMah-ol5on Thanks for the kind words. In a pinch, I would train them on the Aguila rounds, and keep the Federal minibucks for home defense. Aguila rounds have less recoil, and the Federal minibucks deliver a tighter pattern.

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

@@guillermomaguire5394 Thanks for the tip! I have also picked up a roll crimper with the intent to reload spent shells and shorten to 1¾". Minishells with slugs are never available here so might also make wax slugs from cheap birdshot shells. I'm surprised that the Federal 4B would have a tighter pattern. Maybe the 1B in the Aguila shells push the 4B out wider. I'll see when I finally test and pattern them. Thanks again 🤓

[@guillermomaguire5394]

@@KevinMah-ol5on Federal mini bucks are buffered. I don't know squat about gunpowder, etc, but I have tested reloads and "off brand" minishells, and some of them are quite stout. Of course, for us, a mini is about the shooter, and finding the sweet spot between recoil and lethality. Any way you cut it, 14 pieces of lead going 1100 fps is a problem.

[@TheDrifter250]

I have minis (Aguila) in my KSG 25...41 of em, yes it holds 41 shotshells lol

[@Dont_Twist_It]

6:28 if I got shot in the stomach I would not leaning forward I would be on the floor 😂

[@jaylathan22]

That slow mo was crazy 😬.

[@defenderofpoodles5606]

Number 4 buck in both of my home defense shotguns. Slightly larger spread at home defense distances with less chance of over penetration. Also, birdshot is more effective when fired through a choke. Looks like a Carlson barrel on your Benelli , and if memory serves those barrels are able to be choked. Would like to know if that was the case.

[@johnbartolik2]

Agree with the #4 buck. That’s what’s in my defense boom-stick as well.

[@bunk95]

Home defense? Are you a soave thats marketed as a type of citizen?

[@1Mannco]

@@bunk95 Then kind of soave are you?

[@rickieharris6812]

Love your videos, just a suggestion but you might wanna try number 4 buckshot for a self-defense load you might be surprised.

[@paladin556]

Yup. 1,2,and 4 buck are awesome on people.

[@jedironin380]

I would have liked to see #4 Buck, my personal favorite.

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

I also have #4 buck in minishells as well as a combo one (#4 buck and #1 buck)

[@brianmoore1164]

Bird shot comes in different sizes. You should test Winchester' Defender #2 shot. At indoor distances I think you will be impressed.

[@PJ_Perry]

People underestimate birdshot at self defense range it will kill a man dead , especially the heavy birdshot /🦃 shot loads ..

[@Rubeless]

But like using a shotgun, bird shot is limited at giving advantages. Good for breaching doors and hunting, that’s it.

[@kvo5565]

You're right about the different size shot available. Look at the different turkey loads. Also, the waterfowl loads. Inside 30 feet, I bet most would be manstoppers. Shotguns are just easy and familiar for most people to use in a pinch. Soooo many different shells out there but tacticool dudes only accept 00buck or slugs.

[@kasonm801]

Agree that the size shot makes a big difference. I have a buddy that was shot near point blank to the chest with the smallest bird shot out of a sawed off shotgun and it didn't kill him. Left a pretty cool scar though.

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

I originally got #2 bird as well but swapped out for #4 buck. Will also load 00 in front of the #4 then have slugs and more 00 in Spanker velcro side saddles for back-up.

[@richardphare6827]

Yes i love my pump shotgun for home defence! I mostly have 00 buckshot and slugs!!! Live your video!!! Lokking forward to more! Thank you

[@simplicityrm]

Would love to have seen some #4 buckshot used

[@lostfound8112]

Some of the slow mo was arguably best i have ever seen. Holy fkk that spices shell was epic. Im a firm believer in shotguns for home defense

[@ru2yaz33]

Turkey load at close range could be devastating (#4 shot to BB).

[@r.shanethompson7933]

The old Remington duck/goose 3" Nitro Magnum #2 loads will absolutely obliterate flesh at most defense ranges, however I still use #1 Buckshot in my defensive shotgun.

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

Didn't want the recoil from a turkey load so I got a box of regular shells with #2 birdshot. Also have #4 buck plus those velcro side saddles with 00 and slugs in case needs change.

[@nathanhileman3848]

I would also like to see a 3" magnum #4 turkey load vs. ballistic gel torso.

[@alfreddurbyn642]

Agree awesome round.

[@TYoungPhDRRT]

Terrific video, Brother!! The ballistic dummy aftermath doesn't lie on the lethality of each round. I've been re-evaluating my home defense weapon choice--from solely a .45/9mm pistol, but adding (and making primary) my 12 ga. Mossberg 500. Prior to this video, I adhered to the buckshot-slug-buckshot alternating technique in the tubular mag. After watching this, I'll stick to straight 00 Buckshot, for no other reason that the over-penetration risk. Thanks again!!

[@van7887]

Loved how the head just disappeared. Fun video.

[@landenx]

How do you like the shockwave? Do you think it’s viable/has advantages vs a full length shotgun for home defense?

[@PLZU81Truth]

Paramedic. Nothing causes more damage in civilian world that a 12 gauge at close range. Fatality is basically 99.888888%

[@John-vc1kz]

I had a beautiful Remington home defense black stock 7 round tube, with peep sights for slugs. Best shotgun eva

[@FooShiestyOG]

I love your videos.. simple yet very very entertaining 👏

[@JohnTomlinson-g6l]

Great demonstration of the power of 12 guage. I carried a shotgun at work for years, but never had the opportunity to observe the damage it can inflict on anything other than paper, or steel. Reinforces my preference for loading both buckshot, and slugs in my HD gun. Seriously inpressed with the Salt Creek Petals. Great video

[@clifbradley]

I put birdshot in my 12 gauge home defense gun. I know, I hear everyone. But no distance in my house is longer than 22 feet, amd at that distance, most of the pellets are still together, but getting some spread. If I hit them with the full load, they're gone, if I miss, probably still tagging them and that's DNA now present. I know it isn't takimg them out of the fight, but definitely making them feel it. Plus if I hit the wall, it's still going through the wall, but breaking up pretty well. That's only the first shot though, #2 is 4 aught, #3 is a slug, #4 is 4 aught again and #5 is a slug.

[@gyromurphy]

I would say only use those if you have family in the house.

[@RichardCranium321]

Why would you take the most effective smooth bore weapon on the market and immediately handicap it by using soft target loads? Also, inside of 20 feet, the average 55gr FMJ 5.56 breaks up when hitting the first layer of drywall, it still carries through the back side but with barely enough force to do any damage. Worst part is if you engage a target or multi targets who are entering through an open door.... Can you guarantee none of those pellets are going outside your open door? If you hit a soft watery target with a 5.56 inside of 100 yds it's going to fragment and dump all energy. Even at point blank, it would not exit the guys back. (See: Rittenhouse/Hubert)

[@timg7627]

Larger size bird shot is fine within 10 yards. That will be plenty effective. I’ve never understood the thought process behind loading with some series of different shells. You’re anticipating what you think will happen in a home defense encounter based solely upon an imaginary scenario in your head. It’s just fantasy land. It’s makes zero sense to me but to each their own.

[@shaneolsen9394]

I wouldn't say bird shot is completely ineffective but I did some testing of bird shot on a pumpkin but I put a T shirt and light sweatshirt on it and at 10 paces (furthest point of view in my house) and i was a little disappointed. Only a few pellets went through the clothing and none went into the inside of the pumpkin all stayed in the "skin" of the pumpkin so for me it kinda ruled out birdshot. But buck shot went through and through. Just food for thought.

[@bobg3633]

Its 2023. There are multiple videos proving bird shot at a self defense footage does the same damage makes the same hole lol. If people dont know this by know i dont get it. I keep #4 birdshot mych like you my home is not a mansion.

[@MidWesternShootingEnthusiast]

You should try number 1 buckshot on a ballistic dummy.

[@andrewwalters5864]

Awesome video as always! Hey you should do a video on cutshells. Ever since I learned about them, I hardly even buy slugs. I just turn birdshot into my own cutshell slugs and they work amazing but I’d be curious to see how a cutshell does against a slug in comparison

[@airgunbubba2505]

That spicy round turned your Nova into a Warhammer 40k Bolter!!!

[@meanman6992]

I’d like to see “bird shot” of like a number 3-4 size tested, I’d bet it might work fairly well.

[@oddish4352]

Number 4 buck would be a good one to test as well. You get 21-27 quarter-inch pellets that spread a little more than OO will, and penetrate a bit less. It's what I would choose, for self defense at under 10 yards.

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

​@@oddish4352#4 buck is also great for coyotes at 30+ yards. Though I have also acquired #2 birdshot as a potential HD round but haven't tested them yet.

[@jeffadams9807]

My Go To Round Is The: FEDERAL FLIGHT CONTROL 00-Buck, 8 Pellet, 12ga Load...

[@rosshemmings9384]

I think I heard Dirty Harry mutter something about 'world's most powerful' when you shot the spicy load

[@mikenaracon951]

That spicy slug was amazing. Pretty sure a DA would try to deny self defense but that dummy wouldn’t testify.

[@user-Cosmicplayhouse_]

Can you do a video shooting different types of 12 gauge rounds? Like #1 and #4 buck?

[@nicolaswodehus870]

Back in the late '70s, we had a cattle property in Queensland. My father, a WW2 vet, would hire guys not long back from Vietnam.. One of them, a tunnel rat, told me he used a cut down 12 gauge with no.4 shot .. That was always good enough for me...

[@cgsimons1187]

#4 was probably good in those tunnels where slim little Vietnamese soldiers would lurk. Though remember here in the states there are some big fellas who would never fit in those tunnels.

[@MilesLong556x69]

It's kinda funny, low recoil buckshot spreads less and penetrates deeper than full power buckshot. Edit: also, don't use birdshot for home defense 😂

[@cgsimons1187]

My understanding is that some of the more expensive buckshot is designed to have less deformation coming out of the barrel, so the pattern is tighter. With less deformation(remaining round rather than flattening to any degree) of the shot, it also tends to punch deeper.

[@MilesLong556x69]

@@cgsimons1187 yeah that's how they market it, copper/steel low recoil does a really good job staying together and penetrating deep (giggity) I'm too broke to afford federal flight control these days so I gotta go the informed ghetto route 😞😂

[@Rubeless]

Don’t use a shotgun period.

[@MilesLong556x69]

@@Rubeless that's borderline silly

[@corvidconfidential8826]

Why not use birdshot? The only shells I have access to in commiefornia is birdshot, I heard it's good against someone who doesn't have armour and won't penetrate my walls afterwards. I considered turning some into wax shells but since I'm only using it for home defense, I don't want to explain why I made 'modified exploding ammo' in court

[@jamesclark6427]

Though I will happily use OO Buck for 12 Gauge, I prefer the somewhat forgotten OOO Buck which gives you eight .36 caliber pellets or O Buck which gives you 12 .32 caliber pellets. O Buck gives especially good evenly distributed patterns. Probably my favorite load for 12 Gauge, though #1 with typically 15 pellets is excellent as well. There's also the 12 pellet Magnum 2 3/4" OO load, and the 27 pellet #4. There are a number of Buck pellet sizes that are very little or almost completely unused for some reason, including the half and letter sizes. Those you have to handload. The single factory Buckshot load for 16 Gauge with 12 pellets of #1 is truly excellent with very well distributed patterns, and eight pellets of OO also works well in 16 Gauge. The pellets don't quite stack evenly in the case, but close enough. I do wish the factories would load a greater variety of the 14 or so different Buckshot sizes. Very rarely do you see #1 or O used in 12 Gauge, and never #3, which seems to be limited to 20 Gauge. The OOOO, .44, .45, and .50 caliber Buck pellets reach a point of diminishing returns due to low pellet count. But perhaps in the rarely used 10 Gauge or the seldom seen 8 Gauge.

[@tuco86x]

That head looked like something out of resident evil

[@general-Lee-700]

10 gauge 3 and a half inch high brass magnum number 2 swan shot in my own words is like buck shot because the pellets are so big and they are vary hard to find in a 10 gauge Magnum chamber for a pump action but it gets the job done

[@frankensteincreations4740]

#4 or less, BB is the best! Can’t use table salt when it comes to bird shot… I’d love to see someone use actually useful in theory shelf loads of shot, like I said above… and see what it does… 👍🤘

[@chopperking1967]

Fantastic video. I know those torsos cost huge money - thanks for sharing that spend.

[@lib556]

I'm no scientist but... seems the 'spicy' slugs are the best for avoiding over penetration. 😁🤔

[@spencerbullett7690]

A good load to test for birdshot catagory would be the REALLY spicy ones meant for geese. Try a 3” BB load meant for waterfowl. They do massive damage

[@JimParvin-o9e]

At close range, it doesn't matter what kind of shell you use in a 12 Guage shotgun.

[@anaarreguin6970]

Lmao

[@taymoula563]

Agreed lol

[@brenteason9891]

I watch these videos to see other lefty shooters like me using right-handed weapons. Good stuff.

[@Texas2Step79]

Took a couple of shogun classes. And the instructor taught us early on with demonstration that ...bird shot is for the birds ... if it's all you got it's better than nothing...but I'd make efforts to get buckshot if even cheap buckshot... I have some wolf buckshot...it's cheap but it will do the job..

[@charlespratt8663]

More of a number 4 buck guy myself but at a conversational distance even target loads are effective.

[@MattWaller04]

Spicy slugs for the win!

[@BrandonGodfrey-yi7tc]

There are plethora of options between #7 and 00 buck. How about #4 (as used for small game)? Or #2 (as used for waterfowl )? I bet these would make great home defense rounds.

[@MrTheochris]

For home defence I would use #4 buckshot for distances up to 7 yards.More than that I would go with OO buckshot

[@63DW89A]

I have the exact same thought concerning #4 Buck, 00 Buck and slugs for long range.

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

That's my loading too. I have a 7+1. 3x 00 first, then 3x #4 buck next, chamber one, that leaves me room to load 2 if needs change. More 00 and slugs on Spanker velcro side saddles for quick top up or change. Though if I need more than 6 rounds, I might be in bigger trouble but still never hurts to be prepared...

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

Wow, you couldn't have asked for a better result on that last slug. Incredible footage.

[@theicecavalier342]

Good vid, but as a person who used a 12 gauge with double ought on a person, you fired assuming the attacker would be naked. While my shot knocked them to the ground, and did serious damage, at about 9 yards, was not lethal. They had a t shirt, and flannel type shirt, and wearing a carhart jacket. The jacket being a duck down actually stopped most of the shot. I think if you "dressed" your targets, the damage would be more accurate.

[@bigcheese82]

But it stopped them from attacking you right?

[@MrDillaKilla]

I don't buy that for one minute. Birdshot.... Maybe. Buckshot.... File that under things that never happened.....

[@LandCrow]

Either you used birdshot or you had defective or moisture damaged ammo going way slower than it should have.

[@americanpatriot3344]

That is true. Clothing makes a difference too in how a round hitting you will be impacted affecting the total damage potentially.

[@kevinrichardson8859]

​@@americanpatriot3344NO clothing short of level 3 will stop 00 buckshot!

[@randyscott232]

I would like to have seen a larger bird shot load such as a number 4 high brass which is used for things like pheasants. It's a heavier projectile than #7

[@PODSMPSG1]

I'd definitely go with buckshot. That Force X2 load by Federal is good, 00 buck and each pellet breaks into two pieces. 18 wound channels instead of 9, more energy and significantly reduced chances of over penetration. Number 1 buckshot would be good too, 15-16 .30 caliber pellets, that's nothing to laugh at.

[@pedrobetancourt400]

Thank you for your demonstration

[@jamesw713]

"If any birdshot would work, it would be this." No, I don't think so. Duck, goose, and turkey are all birdshot. If you're going to test birdshot, why go with a dove load? #7 shot will not do as much damage because the bird it is made for is small and light. So, taking a birdshot round meant for a bird that weighs a few ounces will not do as much damage as a birdshot meant for a bird weighing several pounds. Either way, if you're going to do a "test" on effectiveness, why use something so weak. If you don't want to recommend them, fine. At least be honest enough to use a round that is comparable in design.

[@TacticalTerry]

I thought similarly. #7 is far too small for this application. My understanding is that #4 shot would be better. He might be using #7 since #7 and #8 are more common on consumer shelves.

[@dandylion1987]

I have some 50 gram (1.75oz) #0 at home. I'd be interested to see it's effectiveness at HD ranges

[@jacobackley502]

Technically anything smaller than #4 buckshot (0.24” or 6mm) is birdshot. So T or F shot (0.2 and 0.22 respectively) are about the biggest and most effective bird loads available. They are typically only available in steel shot loads, but recently magtec imported a bunch of 20 gauge lead F shot

[@TacticalTerry]

@@jacobackley502 This is awesome information Jacob! Thanks for adding your comment. Given that T&F are usually steel shot, I assume that it's a load usually used for larger migratory birds like geese? (I haven't hunted migratory game birds before so I'm curious to know).

[@dandylion1987]

@@jacobackley502 the stuff I have is 4.9mm lead. Specifically RC50 Magnums. They sure kick hard I know that much.

[@johntoddstewart2183]

Greatest headshot I've ever seen! Wow!

[@SamuelMorris1]

Safemoon?!? I had to check what year this video was uploaded. I thought that scam was long dead.

[@rampagent9226]

Down but not out

[@ExcaliberHD]

@@rampagent9226 it’s down 99% percent my guy. It’s quite literally dead. Besides their CEO is a psychopath who got caught stealing LP funds

[@shakespeare009]

If it was a scam, the SEC would have shut he team like they did with Luna and FTX etc which were real scams. SafeMoon is thriving and kicking. Stop telling people how to spend their own money, you remind me of the anti gun lunatics always policing us.

[@jackgreenstalk777]

To quote John from ASP.. "bird shot is for the birds" 😅

[@bowbender1]

Being left handed , such as you are , my favorite pump shotgun is my browning bps. I keep both eyes open when shooting a shotgun thus the bottom eject is a nice feature

[@Dan-gi7yz]

Years ago my dad was shot 4 times with a 12 . Bird shot. He survived but it messed him up. That was in Deer Lodge Tennessee. Don t mess with country boys ))

[@REexpert44]

I would have to say that the good old high brass 00 Buck would probably be my go to. It looks like it does the job very effectively and at those home defense ranges it gives you just the slightest little bit of extra margin for error. That and the wad giving them a little kiss after is a nice touch. I wouldnt use a shotgun as my go to home defense gun, but it works if you need it.

[@petersonl1008]

Favorite shotgun load..the one in the breach. :)

[@funwithballistics1016]

Itd be cool to see you test a dummy like this with birdshot and move up from #8 to heavier more powerful loads. Winchester Blind Side has high velocity steel shot shaped like squares that they stack and get higher shot counts. Thatd be sick!

[@InkwellFoto]

That headshot was crazy

[@dandahermitseals5582]

Close quarters defence is # 4 buck and 100 yrd is good with rifled slugs.Also Sabos.

[@stevenwillis7667]

Love all of your shot guns vids. I'm now over 50 and loving my double barel more and more. Still love my my my hand guns

[@mikhailsiderman2191]

Great show! Thank you.

[@MonicaHolly143]

#4 buckshot is what most of my family prefers, stores in my area sells #2 #4 birdshot as well and those definitely are night and day compare to the usual 7 and 8 birdshot

[@timberg7377]

What about flechettes? Don't know if I spelled it right, they look like small arrows.. I would love to see them in action

[@nathanielovaughn2145]

ROTFLMAO after that slug sent rib frags flying! 😂😂😂

[@squatch2003]

I love your videos! I've said it before but I always watch your videos before the big gun tubers videos! So good! Keep them coming please!

[@jinxthegreat6533]

That made me audibly giggle loud enough to wake the dog. Awesome!!!

[@blackmesaoutdoors4863]

#4 Buckshot , Express magnum from Remington. A fantastic load.

[@superdutyohv3401]

Holy shit!! The spicy slug at 8:47 is like your head getting hit by a damn missile!! Pulverized!

[@theosgift654]

it is terrifying how humanity went far from nature to create such devastating tools for killing each other

[@jimb8334]

F'n awesome. I was concerned about over penetration. After this video you have answered my questions. Except the cut birdshot. Thanks for another badass video 🤑