The WORST-DESIGNED Character In MultiVersus

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MockRockTalk

MockRockTalk

Күн бұрын

MultiVersus has a lot of cool characters, but some of them just rub me the wrong way, even if they're not at the top of the tier list

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@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! This is a short excerpt from a deep dive review of MultiVersus, full thing's up on the channel now.
@CoffyThecat
@CoffyThecat 14 күн бұрын
the up special you don’t know what he is actually doing you assume he is fighting but he could be dancing,Eating,Kissing or snoring he is not really fighting you guys assume he is because of the fog.
@Bubba-64
@Bubba-64 Ай бұрын
Jason’s swipe hitbox is currently on vacation
@madestmadhatter
@madestmadhatter Ай бұрын
I think Marvin can literally stand still and be invulnerable to that chain.
@zjthedj4645
@zjthedj4645 Ай бұрын
Man all Jason hit boxes are taking vacation...
@JabJabBinks
@JabJabBinks 19 күн бұрын
@@zjthedj4645the hit boxes finally showed up to the party 😂😂 Always gotta be fashionably late
@megalodonv2
@megalodonv2 Ай бұрын
I swear that Jason has like the opposite hitboxes of banana guard where banana guards hit boxes are so big and so lingering that you could tiptoe on his head when he's doing his side special and get hit meanwhile Jason could literally stab you in the chest and you wouldn't feel it
@noodlesandeggs1512
@noodlesandeggs1512 Ай бұрын
It confuses me how instead of a giant ball of dust, it could have been a medium-sized tornado. That way people can actually get an idea where the hitbox is supposed to be while staying true to the source material.
@lov_eli
@lov_eli Ай бұрын
Style over substance I guess, besides he has another special that is a tornado. I think it just needs better clarity in the edges of it, and increase the hurtbox because for the life of me you just can't hurt him in that mode
@Cadoe
@Cadoe Ай бұрын
You must not know but he DOES have a tornado move
@GaussianEntity
@GaussianEntity Ай бұрын
*Brawl Metaknight intensifies*
@Januaryof28
@Januaryof28 Ай бұрын
this could be a grab type move that has to be parried
@owenduffy5745
@owenduffy5745 Ай бұрын
​@@Cadoe he has 2 already lol
@yuto-__-
@yuto-__- Ай бұрын
I’ve found out the hard way about Taz’s Dust Ball hit box: The outer edges act as wind boxes, which pulls enemies into the middle where the actual hit box resides The hurt box on the other hand is the entire blob itself
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Ай бұрын
The least they could do is a secondary darker colour that matches the hitbox of that move It’s a cool idea but not for a regular attack or would work so much better as a super move or final smash similar to wario man
@masoqueso2527
@masoqueso2527 Ай бұрын
Not to mention his up special lasts FOREVER! I was clinging on to a wall, my opponent did Taz’s up special and even I just did not know the timing because this was my first time fighting against Taz.
@clackman622
@clackman622 Ай бұрын
boohoo?
@masoqueso2527
@masoqueso2527 Ай бұрын
@@clackman622 🎻
@checkmate_lol25
@checkmate_lol25 9 күн бұрын
@@clackman622 sora DID get into smash..so..yeah..you were wrong...three years ago...sorry
@snuffysam
@snuffysam Ай бұрын
Honestly the move should probably be changed to just be a regular looking-ish swiping command grab animation, and if it hits it makes a dust cloud before spitting the opponent out. And then the whole dust cloud can be a hitbox with no hurtbox to hurt opposing teammates in doubles. I know Taz already has a command grab, but this would have different utility in doubles, and the inability to hit Taz during the dust cloud hitbox would be balanced by the fact that you have to hit a (presumably difficult) command grab to activate it. (Also, isn’t that how the dust cloud works in the cartoons ? He starts attacking something, and THEN he becomes a dust cloud?)
@jstar3382
@jstar3382 Ай бұрын
Exactly what I thought
@jstar3382
@jstar3382 Ай бұрын
They could make it so the rumble (that's what im calling it) starts with a command grab, and if you hold down the button after whiffing, it does a hitboxless version of the move. If the grab connects, it's the current move
@futurewario9591
@futurewario9591 Ай бұрын
Just shrink the fight cloud ☁️
@swollgangrizeswollgang7671
@swollgangrizeswollgang7671 Ай бұрын
Show me a joker move that doesn’t beat his cloud
@maniachaelgaming
@maniachaelgaming Ай бұрын
Plus anything Shaggy or Morty throw a fist at gets cancelled out lol
@sonicultimateyt1090
@sonicultimateyt1090 Ай бұрын
Wings of rebellion
@themarioking7127
@themarioking7127 28 күн бұрын
Smash Bros mentioned lol
@neturalumbrella6688
@neturalumbrella6688 21 күн бұрын
Rebel's guard
@camd3924
@camd3924 Ай бұрын
so many moves go through his up special tho and it’s rlly slow. i don’t get the problem with his charging up tilt he’s so painfully mid he needs some gimmick. he’s such a non issue lol
@TheRealMRGG85
@TheRealMRGG85 Ай бұрын
As a Taz main you understand that has his weaknesses everybody's moves has priority over Taz. You can punch him all this tornado or just hit him with a projectile. Almost everybody has priority over Taz
@c4rcar026
@c4rcar026 29 күн бұрын
Agreed
@betakh9267
@betakh9267 24 күн бұрын
I Learnt this the hard way playing Taz against Jake. Literally cannot get to him except for my tornado, all his short attacks are ranged attacks 😭
@Excubiare
@Excubiare 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, think this guy needs to play more Taz if he thinks the "only" balance is the cooldown. Yeah.... not quite bud
@xavierjohnabad1088
@xavierjohnabad1088 Ай бұрын
So basically, he’s monster kirby
@James-bh3fq
@James-bh3fq Ай бұрын
And then Finn can do that with all of his moves which is even more stupid, plus the backpack that is active for as long Taz’s special
@maniachaelgaming
@maniachaelgaming Ай бұрын
The pay to win backpack
@thegamewin100
@thegamewin100 Ай бұрын
Projectile does that not work or what’s going on lol
@ViewtifulJae
@ViewtifulJae 14 күн бұрын
He doesn’t need a reduction on up normal either
@anonymous7024
@anonymous7024 Ай бұрын
he is so unbelievably silly
@KendoPicaro
@KendoPicaro 22 күн бұрын
It's insane because the patches in the beta were mainly around hit and hurt boxes which didn't seem to make it into full release
@ichhiermit5901
@ichhiermit5901 21 күн бұрын
Its funny seeing mockrock do a short on taz when he looks exactly like him
@KnightlyBrosGaming
@KnightlyBrosGaming Ай бұрын
Taz is so infuriating to face in 2v2. His Up Smash/Up Tilt is so ignorante. He should not be able to move.
@Wolfdoggie
@Wolfdoggie 11 күн бұрын
So many times I seemingly direct hit someone on Stripe but they just magically override my animation and hit me first. Really annoying.
@Mr__Beef
@Mr__Beef 20 күн бұрын
Don’t even get me started on Taz tornado. Characters like Jason can do nothing except run away.
@mauricebarr4035
@mauricebarr4035 Ай бұрын
What about Finn charged ground attack
@PrinceSamTV
@PrinceSamTV Ай бұрын
Thank you for repeating my exact same sentiments, but on a video
@AlexSampson959
@AlexSampson959 20 күн бұрын
Go watch the Looney Tunes 1960-1980 & you’ll understand that hitbox lol
@flywatt6895
@flywatt6895 Ай бұрын
Taz up special hitbox is supposed to be the entire blob. It's so obvious? You wait the move out for it's cooldown or poke Taz with a projectile out of it, it's that simple... and Finn can also hold a running charge attac. The sandwich is not gamebreaking on Taz. Stop senselessly hating on my boy !
@kingol4801
@kingol4801 Ай бұрын
Exactly this. Some people are too stuck with balance of normal fighting games, that they cannot understand this one at all
@TcC.O.L
@TcC.O.L Ай бұрын
Ok but what about his infinite combo you can’t even break from unless he drops it “ so balanced “ lol
@simbozo8918
@simbozo8918 10 күн бұрын
Taz is a poorly designed cornball of a character. I’ve never fought a single one who has variety or isn’t insufferable to play against. Taz is like the sonic of multiversus
@maxjello3114
@maxjello3114 23 күн бұрын
Somehow, melee Roy has returned
@madestmadhatter
@madestmadhatter Ай бұрын
The ai will even spam those moves, you can't get behind them, they don't break from above, and yhey last for a solid minute as they cover the entire field, this is particularly annyoying if you need to ring them out on the bottom of the ring, you finally get them over the dge go in for the down strike, and twister. The one that annoys me is the inconsistency with Jason's Invulnerability window on his side special, so many times it gets broken on full turns that's the damage window
@FlareOfProminence
@FlareOfProminence 29 күн бұрын
Fix the animation on up special to actually look like a tornado how it's supposed to look. And the hit boxes can be fixed
@marshadowhero5807
@marshadowhero5807 17 күн бұрын
Banana Guard over princess bubblegum? I don't care if this is unique. Never let them cook again
@FishSticker
@FishSticker 13 күн бұрын
I love Taz so much
@etherealbladerx8153
@etherealbladerx8153 26 күн бұрын
😂 what about yoshis grab in smash chewing on people in his mouth? Thats the same thing 🤣
@Xxblade17
@Xxblade17 28 күн бұрын
Made him broken in beta now hes broken in a different way
@theoverseer393
@theoverseer393 25 күн бұрын
Taz’s up special also suffers from lasting WAYYYYYY too long for how unpunishable it is
@swegdhg1092
@swegdhg1092 6 күн бұрын
As if i needed another reason to buy taz 🤩
@wrydstepbr0_0
@wrydstepbr0_0 17 күн бұрын
Finn can charge and move as well...
@414Mufasa
@414Mufasa 15 күн бұрын
He's braindead as well
@farrelldogani4541
@farrelldogani4541 Ай бұрын
It could've been a command grab imo instead of the vore
@Werehog360
@Werehog360 29 күн бұрын
No one never seem to bring up fin charge move, he can just charge it and freely run around with it. Can't do much against it besides hope he miss or throw something at him A lot of mv issues came from it being a 2v2 game but everyone want to play it like a 1v1 game. People want to pretend that the characters are balance for 1v1 and pretend it’s a skill issue if you can’t beat a character
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 29 күн бұрын
I agree with the second part
@veryoriginal6790
@veryoriginal6790 21 күн бұрын
He can only hold it for so long
@hydra_drizz2164
@hydra_drizz2164 16 күн бұрын
Tom and Jerry down air atk hitbox is so inconsistent 😭
@JeezAlax
@JeezAlax 26 күн бұрын
I'd be scared of asking the devs to patch anything, given their response to Iron Giant was just straight up erase him from fucking existence.
@marcol9653
@marcol9653 24 күн бұрын
I use to spam n troll so hard with open beta Taz
@tylerstallings3023
@tylerstallings3023 Ай бұрын
As a Taz main I can say his up special is op asf but they still nerfed tf outta him and isn't as good as he was in beta
@Ryöken17
@Ryöken17 20 күн бұрын
i prefer his up special when it's on cool down, better, it's like your only move to eject up.
@roxtonwhitmore1794
@roxtonwhitmore1794 14 күн бұрын
I mean if people don’t have a problem with my Thea’s side b I don’t see how this is a problem
@drakewinwest9888
@drakewinwest9888 28 күн бұрын
Love this game but that is a truth. How the hell do you attack a lot of the moves? And why do grabs like auto vaccum any attacks.
@MrJapanUnderground
@MrJapanUnderground 29 күн бұрын
Tax needs the charged up special because he's got NO other good way to put a TASTY status on opponents. That's his ONLY saving grace to getting it started. All the other ways to do it are just bad.
@eliyomama
@eliyomama Ай бұрын
I've missed so many times as Steven for no reason
@ThatBeingCed
@ThatBeingCed Ай бұрын
Alright... Im really annoyed by the Short Spam...
@YOSSARIAN313
@YOSSARIAN313 25 күн бұрын
I exclusively play gizmo. I always hope for taz because the matchup is 80:20
@ChirpyXC
@ChirpyXC Ай бұрын
Taz is fine
@xeus3073
@xeus3073 Ай бұрын
Here me out, he can keep the moving during charge but just slower, up b looks smaller and the startup of the move is slower to justify its kill power
@Riddler1212
@Riddler1212 13 күн бұрын
Remember in the "beta" when they completely redid all hit boxes and hurt boxes then launched the actual game a year later and they were broken again.... Good times....
@cosytime7075
@cosytime7075 Ай бұрын
The dust cloud is beatable and dodgeable. Just get better. Better yet play taz for a week. His Sammy attack is busted but barely kills compared to other up tilts His jab is so slow and loses to almost anything. Even trades bad
@Ryöken17
@Ryöken17 20 күн бұрын
I hope you played him on day and feels how stupid it is to counter this... one projectile and it get cancel, one hitbox in and it get cancel, when you play against you don't know, but try with and you just suffer approaching.
@skyclouds24
@skyclouds24 Ай бұрын
Nobody gonna say how Fin can do the same charge walkin? Lol taz aint even good.
@madestmadhatter
@madestmadhatter Ай бұрын
Fin has a smaller range
@simbozo8918
@simbozo8918 10 күн бұрын
And it doesn’t last nearly as long, you can dodge behind it/ punish it soo much easier
@skyclouds24
@skyclouds24 10 күн бұрын
@@simbozo8918 doesnt last long? What do you mean? You can literally hold it lol and you can immediately move/dodge after doing it
@TheDarknash
@TheDarknash 20 күн бұрын
I gotta admit the hit boxes are way better than the beta but still they went from: absolute dog$hit to: what the hell!?!??
@ajhandsome01
@ajhandsome01 20 күн бұрын
Multiversus really pisses me off because that could be the #1 game right now but greed wins
@justanyceguy0079
@justanyceguy0079 Ай бұрын
This shit makes me mad how is this game still not finished
@Francofortnite
@Francofortnite 15 күн бұрын
"multiversus patch this" saying this when we have finn 0 to death, bugs combos, arya, iron giant, wonder woman, jake bite loop, shaggy, black adam, superman combos, batman giant hitboxes, marving camping and down attacks, morty camping dodge and dirt, jokers combos and safe attacks, tom and jerry paddle infinite, agent smith infinite loop, steven universe bubble attacks, do i need to continue? funny enough you show the loop with jason THE ONLY CHARACTER THAT WAS 100% SAFE the rest you needed to check if to dodge or not, if you missed you were bodied heavily since your dodge meter was gone
@414Mufasa
@414Mufasa 15 күн бұрын
I've beaten every one of those characters high tier players and low tier, you literally can't beat a godlike Tazz player you barely can beat a mid level Tazz who knows how to dodge all you have to do is spam tornado and dust cloud in rotation don't believe me go do it yourself and see if I'm lying, doesn't matter if the player is a god or not you pick Tazz against any one of those cheesers and you'll win easily
@Eggnog88
@Eggnog88 Ай бұрын
I love his attacks I hope they don’t change them even though they are broken
@ViewtifulJae
@ViewtifulJae 14 күн бұрын
What!? lol taz was way better before now he just sucks. They need to allow him to gain his chicken effect easier . And his up special is countered by throwables or projectiles . Simple lol I was once top 100 taz in the world. They destroyed his kit honestly. I used to tech with his projectile apples but now it’s not the samen
@sundownkids6631
@sundownkids6631 18 күн бұрын
They litteraly recreate meta knight neutral B
@bigwill6724
@bigwill6724 7 күн бұрын
Samurai jack just released, it’s literally Jason but much faster
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb 29 күн бұрын
His up special is basically Mimikyu's Play Rough in Pokémon Unite but platform fighter instead of MOBA, but just like that move, is made up of bullshit
@eonunas4641
@eonunas4641 Ай бұрын
Taz is a really strong character
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 18 күн бұрын
He's not like strong. He's just such an unfun character to go against. Is like the dude with the yellow shirt and jean. Don't know the name. Some of the characters designs clearly shown this game isn't serious. The rest of his kit is perfectly fine
@414Mufasa
@414Mufasa 15 күн бұрын
Nobody uses the rest of his kit every Taz tornados, dust clouds, and up smashes thats about it
@SeriousPeopleStudios
@SeriousPeopleStudios Ай бұрын
The up special can't be fixed, because there's nothing TO fix. Where is the hitbox? The cloud. The entire cloud. Where is the hurtbox? The center of the cloud. It lasts forever? It has very limited mobility making it easily dodgable, requiring a read to land it. It's a good kill move, but has a lengthy cooldown so the Taz player needs to strategize when to use it or ends up wasting it. There's nothing like it in Smash? Sure there is. Wario's Waft is pretty similar. I don't know, seems pretty simple to me. What's wrong with it? I do agree about the Sandwich Up Attack though, that move is bullshit.
@sknight43
@sknight43 Ай бұрын
Claiming that waft and this abomination of visual clarity are remotely the same is just purposely missing the point
@purplecrowbar1332
@purplecrowbar1332 Ай бұрын
Lol @ claiming this is in any way, shape, or form similar to waft… some people will say literally anything to defend the game they like.
@dc_dachi
@dc_dachi Ай бұрын
I don’t play this game very seriously, and I’m sure if I really grinded it out I’d get a feel for it, but as someone who’s played a lot of fighting games and have seen a LOT of bad hitbox/animation disparity, this move looks pretty egregious. You say the hitbox is the whole cloud, but is it actually? I’m legitimately curious, I can’t find frame data for this game. From a glance, it seems impossible to actually read. The cloud fluctuates in size, does the hitbox match that? There are also limbs occasionally extending out from it, are those also hitboxes? You say the middle of the cloud is the hurtbox, is that actually true? This is just a giant disjointed hitbox around a core hurtbox? Also, MockRock isn’t criticizing how good the move is, his core criticisms center around the design. The concept itself fundamentally creates visual ambiguity that impacts gameplay; he doesn’t like hard cooldowns as a balancing factor in FGs; and a cooldown doesn’t justify letting wonky animations through in the first place.
@SeriousPeopleStudios
@SeriousPeopleStudios Ай бұрын
@@dc_dachi Ok, am I just going insane? I'm not trying to be snippy, I'm just genuinely concerned now that I might be the only one who feels like this move is ridiculously obvious, visually. If the cloud was much bigger, maybe, but it really isn't that much larger than Taz himself. Do the limbs pull you in, I dunno, but the whole design of the cloud is "don't touch the cloud" and they really don't extend that much further than it. Is this just a thing you need to have watched classic cartoons to understand? That cartoons fighting causes a big cloud of dust and other characters get sucked into if they touch it? What's the ambiguous part? The one thing I guess I can sorta see are the limbs, I just never considered that as part of the attack. Just a visual thing to replicate the old cartoons. They never really extend that far outwards away from the cloud so I feel like the approach of "don't touch the cloud" is all you really need to know to not approach it. I dunno, to me complaining that it's visually ambiguous feels like complaining that Sheik's Teleport dust cloud is ambiguous. She covers herself in dust, and yeah, you can't see her for a second of gameplay, but do you really need to to understand how the move works?
@idimentio9317
@idimentio9317 Ай бұрын
It’s Balancing issues for people who want the game to be more of a competitive game as opposed to a party game… also stop making smash comparisons cause they are super off
@SmashBro55
@SmashBro55 25 күн бұрын
taz v jason was unplayable, thank god they fixed jason’s hurtbox because taking damage where his machete is was infuriating beyond belief
@seansean792
@seansean792 Ай бұрын
I would, assume that the second I touch that dust cloud I'm getting sucked in and we're both taking damage if I mash But I know I'm 100% wrong and, it's probably smaller than the animation idk
@FYZZUMP
@FYZZUMP Ай бұрын
I love that idea
@FreeAimDog
@FreeAimDog 14 күн бұрын
just be happy your not a riendog main like me or you lose to everyone online.
@DoctorRose
@DoctorRose 18 күн бұрын
There's someone far fucken worse for the game, and I shouldn't even have to say their name.
@ProtosHeis94
@ProtosHeis94 Ай бұрын
Incorrect. The most broken is finn and superman.
@crybabytez9419
@crybabytez9419 6 күн бұрын
😅 y ppl ignore the real problems like fin, joker Batman n now samurai Jack?😢
@BlackJack-ch8ps
@BlackJack-ch8ps Ай бұрын
He must’ve got whooped by a taz
@hundo420
@hundo420 Ай бұрын
everyone is broken cause its designed for 2s
@kaptainkaiju
@kaptainkaiju 22 күн бұрын
Complaining about Taz is wild
@Bradleyman36
@Bradleyman36 5 күн бұрын
I’m tired of how bad the wall/ledge game is. So many hidden barriers. Can’t get back on stage when fighting Taz😅
@PlushChie
@PlushChie Ай бұрын
He's not even that good of a character, B tier at best. Having 1 strong move is not a reason for it to get nerfed. You're balancing the whole character, not individual moves.
@414Mufasa
@414Mufasa 15 күн бұрын
Tazz made me go back to T8 SF6 and MK1, Multiversus was in my rotation daily but not only is it getting kinda dry yet again like the beta did, its just goofy broken nonsense lmao I can win 10 matches in a row and lose to 1 Tazz mashing over and over and instantly I lose interest in the game they had a year and some change to make this game a proper package and still have glitches, infinites, and bugs running rampant around the game
@babylonreef
@babylonreef Ай бұрын
Yall remember when Taz was op in Beta? His spin had massive knockback especially at 0%
@elnick6918
@elnick6918 Ай бұрын
so unfun to play against. Him and shaggy are so boring to play against
@SteelThane
@SteelThane 29 күн бұрын
Taz has some of the worst and some of the best design in this game imo. I wish they gave us apple back :(
@nasceredickinson2319
@nasceredickinson2319 Ай бұрын
His d special is now worthless no speed, range or arc like in the beta.
@ViewtifulJae
@ViewtifulJae 14 күн бұрын
Yeaaa taz ain’t as bad as ur making him out to be lol
@diogostratega6002
@diogostratega6002 Ай бұрын
Learn how to dodge, this character doesn't even appear in tournaments
@patrickunderwood2979
@patrickunderwood2979 17 күн бұрын
Hating on Taz smh
@bambadep
@bambadep Ай бұрын
skill issue get good
@deantebritton
@deantebritton 27 күн бұрын
PFG absolutely suck at fighting game design and it shows.
@onepumpscottie8594
@onepumpscottie8594 Ай бұрын
Honestly they lost me when beta skins became available to everybody that didn't paly the beta
@DerPaintballingDoofus
@DerPaintballingDoofus 20 күн бұрын
Just play Smash Bros
@jefferythibodeaux5573
@jefferythibodeaux5573 Ай бұрын
People still play multiversus?
@kingol4801
@kingol4801 Ай бұрын
Yes. People do not have attention span of a goldfish and tend to enjoy the games they play, shocker
@Noahscotia
@Noahscotia Ай бұрын
Bro stop complaining almost all the characters have a flaw in multiversus that’s why it died the first time and to be fair tax is not that broken just play smart and don’t get hit by his cloud
@Noahscotia
@Noahscotia Ай бұрын
Taz*
@foxshinehiyaa3933
@foxshinehiyaa3933 Ай бұрын
Where did you see that he said that taz is broken ? He literally said that taz is not good but he has some conceptual flaws in his kit
@MatthewJrP
@MatthewJrP Ай бұрын
I just want them to need wonder woman’s shield bash. You can’t do shit against it. But taz could use a little nerf too. He’s a little annoying to go against
@jjfinks1368
@jjfinks1368 Ай бұрын
Cry some more. He’s not that bad just play someone els
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 29 күн бұрын
Cry some more over a 2v2 oriented game
@rey-xx4508
@rey-xx4508 Ай бұрын
This game is horribly badly done, nothing like smash ultimate
@micahtuck2455
@micahtuck2455 2 күн бұрын
It’s a trash game. Like cmon.
@thespookylocker
@thespookylocker Ай бұрын
People play that still
@monstermitchell2008
@monstermitchell2008 Ай бұрын
Taz isnt even good lmao
@zannax351
@zannax351 Ай бұрын
That's not even the point
@lukehorine4294
@lukehorine4294 9 күн бұрын
I don't like the highlighted background to the characters.
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