The Worst, Fastest Caught Chess Cheater Ever?!

[@mayday7675]

Wow, this is very concerning, but at the same time entertaining to watch. Feel bad for you having to face so many cheaters though, but you reacted so much better than I would have. Thanks for the transparent video, enjoyed it very much

[@f.d.3289]

i have gotten used to random people cheating, but a cheater who harasses you to play against him, that's new... i have pity for this guy who hasn't got anything better to do with his time. anyways, great vid. (and actually, i really liked how he played the Spanish XD)

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

😂

[@xo7151]

Outside of the dissapointing cheating stuff.. Your Sicilian is so good that the engine had to actually fight for a long time againts you, Thats amazing Mio Goodjob!!

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Haha, if that’s of any consolation 👍 Thanks for support!

[@RaptureReady2025]

It’s horrible how many cheaters there are!! They are the scum of the earth! 😡😡

[@dip9995]

Mio watching you coach bad players is some of the best chess content I've seen. More coaching please!

[@theogantos2664]

Thanks Mio for the great commentary on playing an engine user. They are not always so bold to play every move by the engine!

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Theo, you’re the best! Thanks for support! 👍

[@liebefriedenworldwide8780]

"probably he is seeing his girlfriend during our game..." a very subtle but fair insult XD [a bit before 16:48]

[@radrook2153]

Maybe having congress with her.

[@liebefriedenworldwide8780]

@@radrook2153 yah, a fast one XD

[@SpartanThe300th]

@Liebe Frieden Worldwide more like he was seeing his boyfriend

[@oliverkolossoski1434]

20:33 in a situation like this where you know the opponent is cheating, you should have lost the knight and kept going. Since he spends so much time at each move you are gonna win on the clock, even if the position and material is lost. A lot of the times the opponent doesn't know much about what he's doing and will stick to the engine even if there is mate in a few moves

[@xxpathfinderxx]

I find those videos, where a titled player plays against a cheater, always entertaining. This guy constantly hit 99%+ accuracy against an IM, what was his goal anyway?

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

To crush me - He did! To get my points - He did! I was 2850, now 2783!!?!?!? So, his mission was accomplished! 🤬😡🤯

[@CiteSeeing]

@@MiodragPerunovicOfficial they didn’t give you your rank back

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

@@CiteSeeing they did! And the whole rating!

[@ALF8892]

Game two made me laugh so many times. Ne2 not dropping a piece, a5 stoping b6 Bc6, e5 stopping Bf6 and even c4 seemed extremely strong. I would have known it was a cheater by the second game alone. Also alot of nice ideas for us real chess players to work with.

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Sometimes, I just believe in humanity 🥲

[@Alexandra-tq5tp]

Yes... Some people cant win by their skills... And have to rely on cheating... And the fact you took some time in order to the engine defeat you... Only shows how skilled your chess gameplay is. Congratulations teacher I love your videos from Brazil 💜💜💜

[@jaroslavpors6559]

Horrible that such a players try to destroy on-line chess world but this video was also very instructive as I will now try to look for moves like Rc5, Rh2 etc. GL and less cheaters in your games!

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

I hope for less cheaters too!

[@francoischevalier2151]

Very instructive!

[@PeterJFin]

People have to cheat to take down The Butcher! It's the only way!!😄

[@CheekyChristos]

Great videos thank you

[@InfernalPurge]

The pace of Black's moves in the first game would have given me the vibes of cheating after 6 or 7 moves. I think I would have reported him well before the game ended.

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Should I get that comment that I am not smart enough since I didn’t report him right away after 6-7 moves? 🤷‍♂️

[@InfernalPurge]

​@@MiodragPerunovicOfficial That's not what I meant. In fact it is a smarter idea to play on for a bit, even if there is a strong suspicion: chess-wise it could well be an instructive encounter (seeing where the timing of h2-h3 mattered in the first game, and the Rh1-h2 move in the Dragon game most likely also has its theoretical value), and next to that it also generates more substantiary evidence to pursue further action. I meant that the constant 6-10 second pace from essentially move 1 would be an indicator, and that it pays to be wary of it if it remains that constant throughout because that can help other players detect a cheater. Equally, not speeding up when in severe time-trouble in blitz is quite a red flag as well. I'm on board with all your observations here. Reporting someone at move 7 because they played the opening slowly is rather nonsensical (although I must admit I once reported someone on move 4 because in a 3-minute blitz game after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 they spent an overload of time performing both the 3.d4 thrust and the knight recapture after my customary premove 3...cxd4), but it would put me on the track of thinking that something might be wrong. And from that point on I would watch closely where it is going. It is always an accumulation of different factors that point in the same direction that makes up for a decent reporting, but I would always be happy with evidence that contradicts my suspicion. It's overall a good video, walking the viewers through the processes of detecting a cheater. The voice-over commentary is also done very well, nicely in sync with what is happening visually.

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

@@InfernalPurge thanks buddy and enjoy the content!

[@doffdrayton1302]

I get so annoyed with players like that, what can they learn if they are so perfect.

[@radrook2153]

They are sadists who feed off the psychological pain they imagine they inflict.

[@joe1657]

Great video, I the retrospective commentary

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Thanks Joe

[@luisgemail1822]

Original audio: this piiiii guy..... taking the piiii time every piiiii move! 🤬

[@luisgemail1822]

Sorry men, you are very strong player, but the nickname of the cheater was suspicious.... you must avoided play with she. Anyway you explained very well any move both sides.

[@balladechopin5956]

Chessable course author vs cheater

[@quiquenet1756]

Infuriating, but the ending was so deserved!

[@Zyaego]

I liked the video but I completely understand, I've come across a bunch of cheaters myself knowingly by obvious signs like this video or I get messages that someone has cheated me and got points refunded in the past. The worst I had that was so obvious was when I recently hit 1900 rapid and a 900 wanted to challenge me so I thought why not to help him out with his chess so played three games and the person had it rated for the games and then got absolutely destroyed and when I went back to analyse with the in game engine. Every move was an engine suggestion (and in the game history he lost to other 900s with big blunders which got me confused) and thankfully got refunded those points after reporting the person. Crazy feeling for sure when you know someone is cheating against you.

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

True Guzman, thanks for support and comments! 👍

[@darylwong4403]

Damn this whole virtual chess thing is welcoming lots of cheaters which is why online tournaments nowadays will require ppl to use cameras in their webcam from the back view

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Absolutely!

[@joseluispoquechoque9416]

Thank you very much for the videos, could you make a video about the alapin gambit against the French woman, it would be very interesting

[@ianmendham6671]

I don’t understand these people. You neither learn and improve, nor do you achieve anything if you win. I guess they get to be featured in fun Butcher videos 😅

[@promocja1753]

Flag him with a queen check sacrifice at the end

[@miljanaperunovic6471]

This is the best chess video!

[@muratyildiz506]

Makes himself so „important“ by getting himself cheated, what a fake waste of time

[@lyubomirstefanov5276]

The games are extremely good and entertaining to watch! But man, you suffered a lot...

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

😂 I can’t play vs engines!

[@Chess_Improvement]

nice games anyway, i have suggested that chess websites should use the real names and ids to register players so if anyone cheats will be banned for ever

[@mightyroadie2404]

For registering fine but using real names other players see puts peoples safety at risk death threats, stalking, bullying, harassment off the Internet too many crazies.

[@Chess_Improvement]

@@mightyroadie2404 WOW 😮

[@itachi_terabapp]

No real IDs i last week when I got a winning position against a guy he instantly start abusing my mother and sister ....and this things happens...if we have real IDs of each other then it gonna be brutal

[@Chess_Improvement]

@@itachi_terabapp i think all this will stop if you are using your real id

[@itachi_terabapp]

@@Chess_Improvement nope bro ...it don't change anything First consequence is you will not get online players then

[@JOVELJA99]

podrska bratee

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Ocu gooolooooveeee Jovkeee! ⚽️⚽️⚽️ LA Galaxy 💪💪💪

[@skull-agar7722]

Lol funny fact is that playing that cheater helps you to improve your lines haha

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Good point! b4 new in the Course!?

[@lonewolf5238]

Applying the 10-80-10 Rule: 10% of online players will *always* cheat 80% of online players will cheat given the opportunity with minimal risk of discovery 10% of online players will *never* cheat. So it follows that the probability of facing a cheater in online competition is 10%, but the *possibility* of facing a cheater is 90%

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

I like that theory! Very interesting…👍

[@Libertoso]

Big Mio, you shouldn't become this uneasy in these situations when it's quite obvious right from the first game that the guy is cheating. Just play stalling openings like the slav, the hippo or the catalan and turn it into a flagging mini game lol

[@theogantos2664]

Audio is out of sync - DUH - I did not realize that the video of you was the one without audio.

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

I wasn’t trying to fully synchronize it anyways, I was more of commenting the games

[@b_maximus62]

@@MiodragPerunovicOfficial Bok MIo brate :), trebali bi odigrati neki mec, da vidim jeli mi se nesto dignula igra od vremena wcn-ja kad sam ti bio ucenik o_O

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Imaces dobar utisak! Mozda tvoja igra nije bolja jer si ti bolji, ali ja sam losiji 🤣

[@b_maximus62]

@@MiodragPerunovicOfficial znas kako se kaze, zorimo kao vino 😎

[@malicar6305]

Pocepao te komp ko Panta pitu😀

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

🤷‍♂️

[@AdamKleszewski]

You should stop this game with this man much sooner. That he was cheating was obvious. It is a pity to waste your time on such games. Computer engines should play against each other. They shouldn't be playing with people

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Goos point Adam :) Thanks for support!

[@antdgar]

Nice

[@ibrahimjaleel5900]

😂😂👍👍 I wonder what kind of satisfaction they get by cheating in chess. I have no strength to get away without cheating my wife if a beautiful girl gets crushed. Wish you a wonderful day Mr. Mio

[@moonchung101]

I really like your videos and I’ve learned a lot. I just don’t understand what the purpose would be in cheating. If you think about it the person cheating hates losing because he’s a loser and has never won anything in his life so he cheats to get that tiny sensation of what it’s like to win but he doesn’t have the mental capability to understand that he really didn’t win it’s a delusion exactly like Donald trump. There the best at one thing and that’s losing. Where’d the honor in that kind of win? It’s a hollow empty existence of narcissism

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Thanks buddy! 👍

[@ResQ166]

in first second i thought you are zelenski lol

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

You’re not the only one! 🤣

[@luiscremonini3635]

Csn you be more clear abd specific? 1- Don't talk too much too fast. 2- what are the clues somebody is using an engine. A ) Same time to answer each move? This would mean that the engine is making the moves direcyly. Only a very stupid cheater eould fo that. 2- Moves so overwhelming good that only can be the result of an exhaustive very deep calculation made so fast that only an engine could do that? 3 -Neutralize all your counter game in a fast unexpected move that any human would take too long to find if it were posible? Ok. Ok. Agreed. How about you and your game ethic? You try to force your opponents to play a game that you exaustively studied and practiced and if cannot prevail you get very upset? This is cheating without an engine, what is the difference? If a library are in your memory or in a machine. Is not your brain in a game is a library wich is the result of long hours studying from opening to finals each variation develoved by grand masters and engines. So, cheaters are those who go straight to the point and use an engine? YES, INDEED.!!! is today chess practice a cheaters game? YES, IT IS. But wait a minute it always has been. Those fucking genius studied every variant of every game they could learn and ended exausted fucking crazy like Capablanca, Morphy, Fisher and a long list of genius.

[@MiodragPerunovicOfficial]

Luis, are you ok? 😂