THE WORST GAME CHARACTER TROPES [video game design pet peeves]

[@LavenderTowne]

ok guys let's all post our most favorite and least favorite character designs here:

[@Hoopcatcher]

too much of one color, or too many colors. sounds counterintuitive but you gotta commit!

[@harpseal513]

My favorite is kinda like cute designs and catty stuff like Killua Zoldyck from Hunter x Hunter but I don’t like things like the long face vampire thing you pointed out

[@LavenderTowne]

I'll start: My least favorite is probably Voldo from Soul Caliber, it's actually a pretty well designed character but he do be making my skin crawl. My most favorite currently is probably the Koroks from LOZ Breath of the Wild, I think they're looking more charming than ever, I love them sm.

[@ysaysaysaysa]

Ahh I just love it when characters have a dog and that’s it

[@prettypeach13]

Umm, uhhh! When the characters are drawn in these weird show y or fancy clothes when they are some kind of warrior or they have to move a lot. It’s kind of annoying.

[@WCHarts]

When she added the straight up photos of women on the faces I just went “OH NO OH NO”

[@cheiftainvulpix]

Cursed

[@alyshiarodgers4500]

I freaking screaming when did that it was so funny

[@stephan_from_library]

It was cursed

[@beckyfromkentucky4430]

@@alyshiarodgers4500 I died too😭😂😂😂

[@PinkCreepz]

She did the T-pose too-

[@JoCat]

I call that guy John shootaman

[@frungggg]

Fighterman, fighterman, does whatever a fighter can.

[@olfersisapotato8970]

HOLY SHIT ITS THE DND MAN

[@solsticechase8079]

JOCAT

[@chickennuggets3186]

Call of Duty: Shootaman

[@Byakkoya11037]

I call him John Whiteman, because it's ALWAYS a white guy.

[@penofwildfire]

"His face is so generic, it matches every other face in our database!" -Random Robot guy (The LEGO Movie)

[@ASmartNameForMe]

*Di a bolical*

[@wawathelegened8254]

@@ASmartNameForMe LMAO

[@yumeyumeappleo]

Omg lol

[@alphaareus]

*DIABOLICAL*

[@turqussy]

Lmao they did it one purpose and made fun of the archetype

[@macayleangelina9892]

“A face so normal no police sketch artist could ever find this dude.”

[@amethyst_cat9532]

The only time this is acceptable is when it's the Lego Movie and the goons are yelling "We've been looking for the suspect, but his face is so generic it matches every other face in our database!"

[@theREALsilviautism]

@@amethyst_cat9532 well i mean, the entire joke of that movie is "haha yeah emmet is most generic lego man ever" so it makes sense

[@saltysunflowersugar7826]

469th like

[@Envy_May]

I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A PET PEEVE ABOUT EMMET THOUGH ,,, THEY STILL GAVE HIM A ? entirely new unique piece for his hair,, even though it looks SIMILAR to an existing piece ??? but they just had to make it slightly messy/include cowlicks which just feels like such a protagonist trope hshshsh if it's the point of his character why not literally be identical

[@theREALsilviautism]

@@Envy_May tru

[@gretablackwell495]

The elf is less “graceful and slender” and more “graceful and slenderMAN”

[@purpleguy319]

The problem is that years ago people were complaining that elves looked too human so the current trend is just people trying to avoid an old trope but it just ended up making a new trope.

[@sepiasmith5065]

lmaooo perfect

[@ElKNO3]

in another universe an elf is makeing a video telling than humans are too fat and has flat faces

[@e_3563]

Everyone I know actually prefers elves to look more alien then to look like humans with pointed ears.

[@ИринаХанжиева-п9д]

Graceful? More like "GREASEful"

[@trinket_rats]

honestly, that elf looks like he could cut food better than an actual knife.

[@allisoncarter7421]

The food rots before he can get close enough to cut it, the stench is THAT strong.

[@guitarzcore]

PLS HAHAH HIS JAWLINE COULD CUT ICE

[@clownmonomaniac2630]

@@guitarzcore i never understood that saying, I mean, ice isn't that hard to cut

[@number1toyafan]

IM CRYING THESE REPLIES AND THIS COMMENT-

[@ParsureArts]

L o n g e l f

[@hiagain1463]

"a face so normal no police sketch artist could find this dude" Lavender this is the funniest thing I have read all day

[@Dressup_Doll]

Hi Again. I like your profile picture

[@ayyymacaroni]

Satou Hiroshi :D

[@jhundeeguillermo6790]

If someone says this to me, i'll be fried completely

[@insertstudionamehereproduction]

"We tried to locate the fugitive, but his face is so generic it matches every other face in our database"

[@mcdonaldsadmincourtney]

​@@insertstudionamehereproductionDiabolical.....

[@ninjabon]

I like how she just wrote “gun” on the gun the first guy is holding-

[@haveagoodmourning]

AJGDFHSAFDJSFJ I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE

[@genericname2747]

He labelled his gun so he wouldn't be confused

[@Foxy12381]

@@genericname2747 k

[@shurr1945]

*”its a gun. Not to confuse you people during a stick up.”* he says

[@cedarw00d83]

*Gun*

[@abyssangel_]

"who lives in a pineapple under the sea?" Brown Hair Dad Guy

[@cursedcandy800]

Lol this is too perfect 😂

[@haileymiller7508]

i imagined it being sung like that and it fit perfectly

[@dirtyraccoon3014]

I singed this haha

[@lauriex8832]

Who shot all the guards just to rescue his lady

[@furociousfyve]

@@lauriex8832 Brown Hair Dad Guy

[@snokalo208]

”I’m just describing Link, aren’t I?” That is such a mood

[@lore_hunter_for_the_nightm5061]

Yep

[@lapisangstylazuli]

Link is the beautiful androgynous elf we deserve

[@Dove_SnowLY98]

Lapis Angsty Lazuli fr

[@hive2666]

@@lapisangstylazuli Yes.

[@hi-there-]

Yeah we know but he could pass as an elf. No disrespect to Hylians I love Legend of Zelda 🤚❤️

[@lostacelonnie]

"when people are emoting the most, showing their teeth, [...]" The screen: *_28 STAB WOUNDS_*

[@rabies__]

*YOU DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE HIM A CHANCE* *_H U H_*

[@qwertyuiop-pu8uc]

*V E I N T I O C H O P U Ñ A L A D A S*

[@ultimatetwat1283]

@@rabies__ H E W A S B L E E D I N G, B E G G I N G Y O U F O R M E R C Y

[@AnaClara-dx4fj]

VINTE E OITO FACADAS

[@michaelaleaff9901]

@@ultimatetwat1283 BUT YOU STABBED HIM AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN

[@badatthegame1333]

"They look like they have not showered in a hundred years." And then there's Link, who actually hasn't showered in a hundred years.

[@nerdofhyrue9351]

Link has that forever perfect hair

[@MsLilly200]

I mean, he spent all that time in a bath, so does he really need to shower too?

[@zannis5441]

The man sleeps in the bathtub

[@_Zixen_]

at the same time though link *slept* in a bath for the full hundred years and on top of that got healed of all his wounds, a bonus it is i'd say

[@the_roach_king.]

My man has *bathed* for 100 years. Squeaky clean

[@driedleaf6615]

For the main protagonist: don’t forget at least one of their immediate family members passed away

[@letyourselfrest8932]

if their dad is alive they Do Not have a healthy relationship with him

[@timstarkey3692]

@@letyourselfrest8932 but at the very end they grudgingly make up by having a strong manhug and a nod of the head

[@SodiumSunset]

Either their wife or child/ren

[@googoogaga7986]

Or THEY pass away uh

[@-budgie-4923]

@@eeveemation-studios Up

[@steeladept]

Male armour: full suit of armor Female armour: steel bikini

[@jayneandersson2016]

True Way to true

[@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036]

I always found that so dumb bc like Your stomach is entirely exposed Your. Squishy. Easy to stab. Extremely important. Stomach.

[@sleepycyclo]

I always thought that was incredibly stupid too XD

[@fydo6498]

@@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036 its the power of vagina/thongs/fertility dude, the most powerful armors in all video games, you just dont get it

[@user-fc7st1nu9m]

Agreed

[@necronwarlord9188]

Nobody: Graphic designers making elves: *l o n g*

[@ayyymacaroni]

*l o n g b o i*

[@thingy419]

I'm never going to get over lavender Town photoshopping someone's face onto her drawings. I literally started cackling. Damn that's so many likes...

[@harpseal513]

Ikr

[@ghost_shivers5276]

Same i-

[@SmolTerribleTornado]

Lmao same

[@haunthayes2579]

Lavender:You know I could do ANOTHER drawing realistically vid,but that’s hard, I KNOW THERE’S SOME RANDOM STRANGER’S FACE HERE,PERFECT!!!

[@ash-nw1bh]

Same 😂

[@alianar.d.8724]

The first trope is the Western version of the typical black/brown haired anime boy

[@username5741]

Oh yeah! Lavender talked about that in one of her earlier videos actually

[@NoiseDay]

Guy Bland, proud father of Anime Boy

[@ghost_shivers5276]

Pretty much

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Aaaaah yes Protagonist-kun Kirito clones MC-kun

[@Brisarious]

literally just the american protagonist-kun

[@meepermoppers8523]

I LOVE how she uses yakuza as an example for good designs. Even though most of them are realistic and wear suits they all manage to be distinct and carry symbolism

[@AnneliesDeroy]

Brown hair dad guy addition: profession is most likely a cop, sticks to his morals

[@coconutcatnipcom996]

Not really with the cop thing. But they have their own set of morals

[@alexapinter8714]

Either a cop or hates all authority - gotta get both ends of that spectrum XD

[@honeysplashh6427]

Goes off on his own getting praised for things that would 100% get him fired in real life

[@secretshark5710]

Also, his daughter or wife is either kidnapped or dead because otherwise why would he do anything

[@thesimplifestyle2022]

and he has a morally gray past

[@truckcrash1980]

Elves in book: lovely and kinda spooky/ghostlike ELVES IN GAMES: L O N G AND G R E A S Y

[@zeearts9484]

*S l e n d e r*

[@ShiftylittleDemon]

Video game elves are french fries: confirmed

[@sapphiregold4195]

Depends on the book. In modern versions yes. But if you look into the mythologies of elves then most of them describes them as ugly and mean. It's only really in certain myths that they are beautiful.

[@lilscenechick1995]

@@sapphiregold4195 You're talking about two entirely different concepts of elves. In Norse folklore, the "alvor" are stunningly beautiful (mainly female) and live in the forest with the elf king. Celtic mythology depicts elves as small creatures that are fairie folk.

[@glanni]

Another point about the Elves though, in mythology they could often be interpreted as really scary. An example, the German word for "Nightmare" is "Albtraum" which basically means "Elf dream". So much for nice happy Elves, I like them in stories but I don't want them to visit my bedside at night.

[@Gippisgay]

I just wish they made elves nightmarish or a lil scary.

[@reynajelly]

Lol never thought of this but yeah ... Alb is a type of Elves l guess

[@glanni]

@@reynajelly I heard a few times the reason why Tolkien's elves were translated into "Elben" in German is because of the Alb having stronger cultural roots in Germany. Or rather, "Alb" is what the common ancestorial word(s) turned into in Germany, while "Elf" is the English result, but it's essentially (derived from) the same thing. ..Except that German folklore tends to be a bit more evil for some reason; another example of that is that "changelings" are considered hell demons exchanged by the devil in German folklore, while in English it's (newborn or retired) fairies exchanged by their fairy family, and they have their own intentions for doing so... but I digress. In a fantasy headcanon, or as a writing idea, one could make the "Alb" a type of elf, since elves are apparently so incredibly prone to evolution that I like to joke about elf being the most unstable element.

[@mitskily8960]

I completely agree with the first one, its like the anime guy protagonist. Your main character or protagonist should be interesting or have recognizable features. I hate when they are boring like that

[@KaizerHiwatari]

Yes, the boring anime protagonist, the video game Dad protagonist, and the "average" girl protagonist from every young adult fiction novel... They're all boring and bland because they're meant to be self inserts for the reader. I understand it, but I do not agree with it. It's boring as hell.

[@Cat-hz7yd]

you have to have a really strong storyline or side characters if you want a bland dad/bland anime character to be recognizable. like ryota from kakegurui.

[@nyx..z]

eren from aot makes me so mad

[@ghost_shivers5276]

@@KaizerHiwatari ikr not everyone is like that!!

[@Dressup_Doll]

The main protagonist of Danganronpa, Makoto, wasn’t meant to have a name. It was literally going to be “Protagonist” or something like that.

[@nonexistent4270]

THE WAY YOU MADE THE ELF'S ASS CHEEKS POINTY SENT ME WHEEZING

[@elijennings9913]

You know you have fucked up when the overlord series (a video game franchise that makes fun of fantasy tropes) has better looking elves.

[@devoti0n]

LMFAOOO

[@deerlovingqueer5519]

*IMAGINE* *IT* *TWERKING* *YOU* *AT* *THE* *CLUB!!!* **(ouch)** 😭😭😭

[@LaplacesAngel612]

@@elijennings9913 overlord is an amazing game imo-

[@elijennings9913]

@@LaplacesAngel612 it's one of my favorites

[@Red-in-Green]

I recognized one of the elf designs you showed and if I remember correctly they were terrifying on purpose. Like, the elves in that game are CREEPY in the lore on a level rarely explored in fantasy. So I honestly think the designers took this exact “Video game elves are too weird and long” mindset and cranked it to 11 for some freaky character designs to match the lore.

[@lorenerd7780]

My pet peeve: I hate it when all the women look literally the same. There is this fantasy pretty girl anime face plastered everywhere and i hate it. Okay i get it the hourglass bodied pretty girl is marketable i guess but i'm tired of pretty i want interesting, people can be attractive/sexy while also looking distinct. *Cough* League of Legends *Cough*

[@aleksandrajezdic1901]

I think they tried the ''unconventional beauty'' thing with Taliyah, and well... I'm not sure it went that well. She isn't very popular atm. I'm no expert, but i think that her skins don't sell as well as, say, Ahri's and Lux's. Logically why would they waste money on creating a skin that won't sell? I get the ''every girl in league has the same exact look'' but sadly, that sells.

[@thesleepydot]

@@aleksandrajezdic1901 I mean, they would sell if we would get rid of society’s destructive beauty standards (at least dor the most part)

[@aleksandrajezdic1901]

@@thesleepydot yeah.

[@dimyell]

@@aleksandrajezdic1901 funnily enough, I'm a taliyah one trick and I love what they've done with her

[@aleksandrajezdic1901]

@@dimyell that's cool to hear. Just saying that she probably won't get a skin in the near future bcs she isn't Ahri or Lux or some other ''bland and attractive" girl

[@leedle2171]

“A face so normal no police sketch artist could ever find this dude.” 💀

[@evvvz8486]

Heyy I love your pfp :)

[@leedle2171]

@@evvvz8486 Thanks, yours is pretty cool too :).

[@st3r1l3_d3c4y]

*2 Mao Mao's complimenting each other's pfp's- I love this-*

[@cake_pop7853]

@@leedle2171 *A wild Mao Mao fan has appeared*

[@evvvz8486]

@@cake_pop7853 welcome fellow mao mao fan!

[@renny489]

Ok but Aurther Morgan is honestly so perfect he gets the pass of “Typical brown haired dad”

[@finnthehat]

Agreed

[@lukamotel]

He also……grow beard. Checkmate 😎

[@sulky_demon4764]

Yep, he's the really old dad type.

[@oimate6357]

I was about to say that

[@truthfxii8443]

Only exception!

[@strwberry_xoxo]

As someone who likes history, the Medieval Sephora lady angers me soo much

[@Vick_or_somethin]

What bothers me most is like when there's background/side female characters that have no makeup, dingy, and over all fits the medieval era better than the main lady characters.

[@Helene.333.]

anne boleyn was clearly a time-traveler with 2000's make-up skills and that's how she snatched ur mans. everybody knew the only rightful queen of England was you, your majesty, good to see you back!

[@boeuf-in9oe]

ikr, it's like the designers think that women back in the day couldn't be attractive without having cake faces

[@YuenQestir]

well it's not based on actual history and is canonically magic enchantments (at least in case of TW3), so u can calm down

[@ZomBunny]

Unfortunately she's so common I've become desensitized to Medieval Sephora Lady, she's everywhere not even just games.

[@graysquaresandbluecircles]

The elves in those video games are so sharp that you can almost legally classify them as a weapon

[@onewayticket2148]

Lmao

[@allisoncarter7421]

I can imagine that in an intense action movie "Look out they have elves", or, "The elf, he's coming!"

[@starfelled]

@@allisoncarter7421 detective movie "What was the murder weapon?" "(shakes fist) *_Those goddamn elves..."_*

[@allisoncarter7421]

@@starfelled Imagine is the presents the elves make are bullets and the elves are the guns, haha!

[@starfelled]

@@allisoncarter7421 they just fling a gift box at you--

[@spacesodaa_]

We need more extra buff stocky women in games, with a big ass shield to ram people with. It kinda bothers me when all I see is dainty women, there should be more diversity in general

[@spacesodaa_]

@Prism Rose I never played hzd cuz I have an xbox but I love her character design, she is absolutely gorgeus and formidable from what I saw in playthroughs!

[@hengli78]

OH MY GOD anyways this could just be me But hollyberry from crk fits that PERFECTLY She has a big ass shield and a big body type, while also being a badass grandma

[@yenko62]

Hollyberry cookie from crk

[@yeetusthefetusthencommitse204]

This is why I love the gerudo in BOTW they are buff, big, and could definitely kick my ass

[@SSKJ64]

YEEAAH BOI!! *Spears of Justice plays*

[@galaxiidiamond6992]

Don’t worry Lav, I’m sure you’re not the only one who is bothered by the greasy pointy people.

[@ametsunami4070]

They look like someone heated up a human and rolled them out with a rolling pin.

[@macayleangelina9892]

@@Veemycobblestone Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[@oceaniawaves4299]

I feel like Lavender hasn’t discovered Aarvos from the Dragon Prince yet and I feel like she should cause’ man, need I say more?

[@sleepykittyMMD]

ikr why can't they look like lord of the rings/hobbit T__T

[@akitalockwood]

@@oceaniawaves4299 OMG yes! His design is just so amazing I love him TvT

[@EsmeMarion]

LavenderTowne putting cutout faces on her drawings reminds me of when the Arthur animators drew a digustingly realistic face for Matt Damon

[@ametsunami4070]

I thought you were gonna saw it reminds you of the cats video but I can see that too

[@waterlemonandfriends]

You’ll never eat lunch in this town agin

[@Loveyourself21072]

It reminds me of Angelina anaconda 🤮

[@EsmeMarion]

@@Loveyourself21072 oh jesus i forgot about that show

[@CrateringGod]

The thing with the sorceresses in Witcher is that they don't just use make-up, they use magic to significantly alter their appearance. That's why they are all conventionally attractive - they all used magic to alter their appearance. For example, Yennefer has a hunchback in her 'true form'.

[@Oli-Chan]

That is a horrible excuse, I love it

[@OsmSkylandersCheats]

So we have “brown hair dad guy”. So what are some common traits of “surrogate daughter girl”?

[@charliefey8974]

she's a teenager (sometimes younger, but almost never older), has shoulder-length brown hair, and no more than two of the following: freckles, a hoodie, baseball cap, extra sass.

[@rattyeely]

Brown hair in a ponytail

[@chickennuggets3186]

I only know two of these, ellie and clementine and they're like distinct enough I think

[@galuxius1861]

Young teen, girl, shoulder-length hair, hoodies, and hats, parents not there, not like other girls tm. Seriously tho I always see the character who doesn't like girly things

[@xxllamaborrachaxx9374]

Brown hair, pony tail or short hair, freckles...

[@sophisticatedPJs]

I want a dadlike main character of a grungy video game that's ACTUALLY like a dad. Gimme the mullet, the 70s and 80s bands, the gregg universe vibes. I wanna see a dude with a beer gut and bad puns fighting in an apocalyptic wasteland with a crowbar

[@hekaterinedragon8776]

I love this idea

[@NecroticNightshade]

PLEASE

[@cupio-stardust]

So basically my dad.

[@mollieburge4940]

i’m gonna design a character on this now

[@estellesmith3306]

YES PLEASE

[@isabellechristie6104]

Every video game protagonists wants to be a dad but we all know the true video game dad Octodad

[@sulky_demon4764]

Yeah, too bad he looks like an ordinary dad, makes the game boring.

[@isabellechristie6104]

Ikr it’s like they couldn’t make a more creative dad. Just a normal human dad with his probably normal human kids.

[@Known_ErrorMe]

YES ,they needed to be a least A little more creative. he looks so normal. like A everyday dad.

[@master0fthearts894]

I don’t think the “Daddening” of video games is bad, but I wish they’d look different, least a little. Like Kratos. The dude’s a dad in a father-son relationship game, but he has the ashes of his previous dead wife and child all over his body, red face paint, an intimidating bulky athletic build of pure muscle, and one of the most glorious beards in the history of human kind, the most unique designs despite being a video game dad. But the problem isn’t so widespread that I’d call it an annoyance of mine. So lesson here is: Design more dads in a more unique way, follow the “Dad of *BOY”* design mantra.

[@reivazel]

I'm pretty sure they're designed that way just so most people can identify easily. Just like in anime how most protags are brown/black haired dude with brown/black eyes and absolutely no special features lol. Also the character isn't always the main interest in a game, we don't always care that much about them, they're basically a vessel to do our own shit. I think that's why they're so bland, they weren't designed as characters but as a tool for the player to have a body in the game and that's all lol

[@Rozdlc]

@@reivazel it's so tiring though. Like I get it, but can we have variety every once in awhile? Not every game should have a blank slate to project on. As long as it's entertaining, that's good enough for me.

[@sangonomiyakokomi5764]

Those games just need a character customization feature, so that instead of a blank slate you can at least create a body for you to do your own shit with

[@MarquisdeL3]

Same. I love dad characters. Lots of characters being dads isn't necessarily a problem. The problem is that they all look identical (which is itself part of so many main characters being a grizzled white guy with short brown hair, a five o'clock shadow, a muted color pallet, and a gun). There's actually a great example of a dad character who doesn't look like this in the video: Kiryu from the Yakuza series. He has neat facial hair and a distinctive gray suit with a bright red shirt underneath.

[@SocksWithSandalsEnjoyer]

Lee from the walking dead game ❤️

[@herjorie]

I feel like the elf stereotype makes them look more like weird goblins than elves

[@israelwood2926]

Both are fae

[@meaganhilleary7172]

“The main character always wears a muted color palette” Arthur Morgan: bright blue shirt

[@mcbeeple8496]

He can also wear pink if you'd like him to

[@somethingthing7171]

Get this. A typical "brown hair dad guy" dude. But he's obsessed with cats.

[@purplebutterfly2113]

For that, I would allow it just this once.

[@18Rakas]

i wanna do it

[@tripwire202]

This is permissible :D

[@shelbyeinhorn3208]

And here's the kicker hes allergic to cats

[@jadiscardelli3487]

That would just be my dad

[@vantasable9424]

Well that’s just John videogame! He’s a very talented time traveler who goes on a lot of adventures

[@ghost_shivers5276]

John what?

[@crunchylettuce]

@@ghost_shivers5276 videogame!

[@vespertiny]

10/10 funniest youtube comment interaction i've seen so far

[@ametsunami4070]

You’ve heard of micheal pickleseller, now get ready for John Videogame!

[@Monsternutz]

Ah, yes! Good ol' Joe !

[@rachelleblanc6111]

The until dawn characters scare me more than the game. They’re too realistic but at the same time too robotic

[@rainyrayrae]

I actually really like it when elves look inhuman and uncanny. They aren’t human why should they fit human beauty standards??? Still totally a valid opinion tho, pretty boys are great.

[@npc6817]

@2 Bagels 1 Toaster yeah but now the creepy blue skin slenderman isn't original anymore, it's just the new trope

[@lavux4937]

Yea, that's what I was thinking. As much as I love beautiful elf characters, it's just so overdone so designers have to think of something else to make it more interesting. Also, beautiful elves are based mainly on Sidhe mythology I believe? But there are a bunch of other 'Fae' creatures that look a lot creepier and a interesting to use as a fantasy race.

[@jayiu9170]

I will never forgive Bioware for not sticking with the elven design from DA2. I love the nose design in elves in that game 😍

[@princeapoopoo5787]

@@jayiu9170 finally, someone with the correct opinion.

[@princeapoopoo5787]

Kind of amusing how she mentioned Link, because one of the things I like about the Legend of Zelda is that the characters, while they have the "elfy" ears and a general connection to "magical" stuff, besides that they were as varied as the average person. I mean, of course most of the important characters are traditionally attractive because lmao gotta sell the brand, but the npcs at least were big, small, and in between - My favourite elf designs are definitely the super weird and strange ones though, but if you're going to have a fairly human looking elf I still wanna see some diversity. Haha.

[@pumpkincat4594]

The elf dude kind of looks like a vampire lol

[@wormbag80]

That's what i thought it was

[@AxxLAfriku]

I am being humble when I am telling you that I am the most powerful strongest coolest smartest most famous greatest funniest Y*uTub3r of all time! That's the reason I have multiple girlfriends and I show them off on my ch*nnel all the time! Bye bye ca

[@barkingborking1285]

Lord Harkon in his vampire form energy...

[@hakujoudaidraws2633]

He reminded me of Duke from the Vampair Series lol

[@creatorofthemind]

I looked at it and my first thought was magic brian from taz

[@corruption-1912]

Beauty is in the watcher's eyes. I love elder scrolls elves, since they have human-like characteristics, but as we see them better, we do realize they are elves and not just humans with pointy ears This sort of elves get better highlighted in the skyrim, where elves look clearly odd compared to a human, but I love it.

[@moonlitforest8289]

mines pretty popular but it’s the over sexualization of women in games specifically the games where the men where full sets of armor and the girls are wearing bikinis💀

[@pv1612]

I DEMAND MORE MEN IN THONGS

[@moonlitforest8289]

@@pv1612 BAHAHAHAHA

[@whytho8856]

or if they are wearing armor it needs a hole in the chest to show her cleavage😭

[@jraqn]

@@whytho8856 exactly! and it makes no sense as armour cuz the chest is like the ONE place where you want armour to be on the body.

[@purpleguy319]

That's rich coming from someone who's blind.

[@Cecil...]

"Medieval Sephora Lady" **cough** Elsa **coughcough**

[@irelyneasterling2311]

**coughcough**

[@AleXanDraPR369]

Corona **coughseverywhere**

[@wannabehistorian371]

Granted, Disney movies tend to be pretty vague in terms of era, and makeup was a common thing among royalty from the, I'd say about 16th century onward?

[@victoriab7148]

The thing is, Disney movies are so historically inaccurate that it doesn't matter that much anyway. It's magical and it's made for kids, so they tend to go in a completely stylized and fantasy direction, which I find okay. For me it's more frustrating when a movie, game or whatever looks sort of accurate to the era and yet, the leading lady will appear with modern makeup. If you're going completely fantasy with vague historical elements, it's fine to do whatever. It's fantasy anyway. But if you're aiming for historical accuracy and then put something modern on your characters, it just looks like either undone research or that you don't care. It's just very out of place too. Everyone is dressed with period costumes and out of nowhere comes the lady with the 2000s eyeshadow.

[@Cecil...]

@@victoriab7148 Fair point

[@sapphiregold4195]

When looking at the different mythologies of elves, very few describes them as beautiful and kind. For a lot of them they are described as ugly, mean and mischievous. The ugly and mean version was very popular in media back in the day but in modern times the beautifully and kind version has skyrocketed. It was the same thing with vampires. Most myths describes them as ugly and that was the most popular version of them until modern times where we now have beautiful vampires which looks pretty much the same as humans just more pretty. To be honest I'm kind of tired the beautiful creatures that look almost the exact same as humans. I enjoy the ugly versions since they in modern times stand out more.

[@Drag-0n]

What make me hate elves more is the damn stereotypes we give them every time, the "I am way better then you, you filthy casual mortal monkey" Every time I see elves in games, movies, tv shows or books. They are always acting like those cheetos girls from disney teenager movies?

[@Rednarokku]

About make up in witcher: In the 3rd book Triss actually says that the elves created and popularized eye shadows and other make up. And because The witcher is a fantasy game, I think we can close an eye on that.

[@reivazel]

Agreed. And in the first place, it's not our world, how they do make up could evolve entirely differently from us, i really don't see it as a problem. it would be in a historical setting.

[@SwedishSalmonbox]

Eyeshadow doesnt specificly have to mean "smokey eyes", so that the developers made it like this is a clear take from what was modern at the time. Added with the headshape that she talked about, also adds to it. I defenitly get the frustation with it so to speak. I dont mean that i dissagree with you either, its just obvious that they havent done any resarch. Most games just adapt a "popularized idea of what history were and what clothes they wore". Which also is showed by the "medival clothes" the women have, since they didnt actually have corsets or anything like that in the medieval times. But then again, theres nothing wrong with it, it IS fantasy. It just gets a little boring.

[@plasticbottle4270]

I think in a fantasy game in general where a sorcerer wear make up it can entierly be explained by simply saying " she magicked it there. Its illusion". I guess people could argue that saying that is " lazy world building" at the same time, I think that's a logical answer.

[@monstrousmoss]

I mean, if anyone were to popularize the Hot Topic look in the medieval era, it’d be elves.

[@MizzFortuneKiller]

Plus there's hundreds of worlds linked together, Ciri visits a steampunk world and different monsters and species are from different worlds, so it would be easy to have worlds blend. Keira Metz has a recipe for eyeliner in her hut in Witcher 3, using egg and charcoal.

[@marsish4963]

it would be so fun to have a game where u play as the generic brown hair dad guy but he dies in the beginning/middle and then u switch to playing as his wife/daughter or smth

[@icannotcomeupwithanything4609]

That actually sounds cool.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Isn't that kinda what happens in TLoU 2?

[@the_honored_one_06]

Heavy Rain

[@KairiFarron]

@@johannesseyfried7933 Kinda happened in TLoU 1 as well.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@KairiFarron But in the first Game, the Generic Brownhaired Dad Guy (GBDG for short) wasn't dead yet. Unless both Games just happened in Joel's Head, who fell into a Depression after his Daughter died.

[@deli_bread]

Therapist: Lavender Towne art with real faces can't hurt you Lavender Towne art with real faces: 6:25

[@kirakoraawesome]

mine: lazy fanservice basically, when they're giving characters like unrealistic bikini armor or whatever, and yknow, not only is it breaking my immersion. But, its the most basic bikini armor they could come up with Like, if ur gonna break my immersion at least make the armor look cool

[@ametsunami4070]

For real. If ur gonna add fanservice atleast make it original and aesthetically pleasing.

[@alianar.d.8724]

Agreed! So much! And as an avid fan of anime games and anime in general. Personally I tend to dislike fanservice but it doesn't actively bother me, but I still love it when a girl is obviously made for fanservice but still has an awesome design. As you said, they break immersion with style. A recent good example is Genshin Impact, it's not super fanservice-y but there are some outfits that show some skin (not to say showing skin is automatically fanservice, it's just that some of the angles they use on the female characters are _interesting_ ) but all of the character designs looks so awesome and intricate that I don't mind it anymore.

[@leximazur3076]

I don't care if the developers want to put in fanservice-y bikini armors, but if they're going to do that, I wish they'd at least do it for both genders.

[@anon9359]

@@leximazur3076 Exactly. Where are the men in speedo armor? Give us the content game designers.

[@noorijon]

I feel like the first one is why people go crazy for designs like Link in BOTW

[@noorijon]

Ok I’m done with the whole video and honestly botw might just be peak video game character design

[@luvie802]

Botw characters are so interesting it makes me want to go back to drawing just to draw each chatacter tbh

[@yesyes5185]

When she called link an elf I cried a little inside, also yes botw is such a beautiful game,,,

[@yesyes5185]

@@Lily-cc4np no, not really. Elves are more humanoid then human. Usually having discolored skin, longer more pointy features, etc. Hylians are more like humans. They have normal skin tones, normal features, they are basically just humans with pointy ears.

[@christfa66]

@@noorijon YES! I got into the Zelda franchise over quarantine and I am in love with the characters. They ate so diverse and beautiful.

[@azrael9011]

I feel like the character design you’re describing for an elf would be better suited for a vampire.

[@Eymologymentality]

The fact that everyone has Link as goals really says something.

[@antoelgueta5799]

Link is literally perfect

[@sararogers7338]

He really is great 😌

[@aphengland5021]

I kin him too

[@MangoSorbetss]

link is the elf every elf wants to be

[@megp9id]

He’s beautiful

[@imaybecringebutimfree]

I’ve seen a lot of bad character designs before... *flashbacks to 9 year old me downloading every weird game in existence*

[@username5741]

#relatable

[@ghost_shivers5276]

Same

[@cloudytonic]

I'm sorry *w h a t* how? Why?

[@imaybecringebutimfree]

@@cloudytonic I got an ipod when I was 8. Enough said.

[@cloudytonic]

I didn't even know what friends were at 9-

[@a.minor.case.of.mass.hysteria]

I saw the elf in the thumbnail and I was immediately like oh no Skyrim’s finna get it for their crimes against the elven race 😭 I love Skyrim so much but the elves have such a distinct overdone sharp thing going on that they have same face syndrome IMO. I wish the dark elves, high elves, and wood elves had more visual discrepancies instead of just being blue/gray, golden/yellow, and pale

[@Drag-0n]

Lets not forget the Dwemmers, the Falmers and the Tropical elves who are aquatic elves peoples Yet, they have all the same faces xD

[@leshurlementsdelacave9563]

Not quite the same face... Dunmers have more of that marked, wrinkled face with that menacing air (they look a lot like dremoras, by the way), while altmers do have those drawn, serrated features like the drawing in the video. Wood elves have softer, if drawn, features. Note also that the elves' ears in TES are not the same shape. If you're interested in the game's lore, you'll also learn that elves have common ancestors, and that dunmer were once much more similar to altmer (golden skin, and not yet that demon head.).

[@fossilco.artrelateddocumen331]

I wish those reading is a very pleasant evening.

[@wolfyqueenn1409]

Thank you! I hope you have a wonderful life since I may never see this comment again. I'm very happy now :)

[@kawaiikat1155]

Thank you. God bless you! ☺️💫

[@brycegoodyear]

Sorry im still human. Looks like your wisb didnt work :^(

[@mitskily8960]

Thanks :)

[@NewName007-n3u]

Bot.

[@saraalam8372]

Lavender: describes the first one Me: GAH STEVE FROM MINECRAFT

[@israelwood2926]

His world and outfit make up for it

[@rommdan2716]

Wait a second...

[@lanad9942]

@@israelwood2926 he’s the only exception, he was the trendsetter, the og

[@chickennuggets3186]

I mean he is wearing a bright cyan shirt so

[@saraalam8372]

@@chickennuggets3186 I mean... yeah?

[@chirucherryverse]

"A face so normal no police sketch artist could find this guy" I love this

[@ewe8929]

I like how there's a label for the gun. Just in case you can't tell.

[@ghost_shivers5276]

Idk its like Its a gun in case u couldn't tell

[@kindaakaii867]

@@ghost_shivers5276 ?

[@invaderruby8804]

“long white hair is a must” *laughs maniacally in sepiroth*

[@s4turnn524]

NOT SEPIROTH ALAKAJAOIDKAKSJAJ

[@invaderruby8804]

@@s4turnn524 IM SORRY AHAISJDHEIEIEJSJSJS

[@izu-baku5620]

Someone that read my mind! I instantly thought of sepiroth 😂

[@jesterrhq1896]

Please, I thought of portraits of American Founding Fathers-

[@scarletlight2763]

Well originally elves WERE monsters, with the whole stealing your babies and playing with your organs thing

[@B4SILOMORI]

I was making a meme but this is more important

[@ch34pwoowoo7]

Agree

[@residententiy]

What was the meme?

[@friskmytale2346]

:0 nice!

[@dezzie_poo]

What was the meeemmee

[@cryptid176]

I was working on homework. This is still more important

[@SerenityM16]

Brown hair dad guy is the self insert, tell me I’m wrong

[@waterlemonandfriends]

You’re not wrong, that’s the whole point. They need a blank protagonist that male players feel they can “project” onto

[@Br44n5m]

Ye it lets me project myself onto the character and be my own dad

[@kaedesakura9274]

@@waterlemonandfriends even in first person

[@julianapegas2043]

True, and that is what bugs me: this character design still being so prevalent today show how AAA games are still catering to the same demographics. Thinking a 30-ish white male will be "default" enough for anyone to project themselves into means they ignore a great part of the diverse public of videogames.

[@yayamckenzie5986]

@@julianapegas2043 1,000%

[@aubrumnaga9159]

Hi ! Just wanna say, about Yennefer and Triss, in the book they're telling that the sorceress use a lot of "materials" for make up and skincare that the other characters all find pretty weirds in the book itself. Plenty of time in the book, the sorceress seems be in advance in their time, and all their surroundings don't understand what they're doing

[@rougeakane]

Yes omg the elf thing is so annoying Edit: Link is literally the only goodlooking elf man XD

[@StrawberryMatchaTea]

@@bottomfeederzz Ayy yo pfp single? I’m asking for a friend:)

[@valthepal4065]

*cough cough* zevran arainai *hack cough*

[@yesyes5185]

Actually Link is not elf. He is a hylian smh

[@OxalisOrSomethingIDK]

Aaravos is hot elf man thing

[@dovahkiin0357]

@@yesyes5185 Um, actually Link is a PEG (Pointy Ear Guy)

[@rowannorth1382]

Lavendertowne: Designs a "bad elf" Me: Lowkey loves it

[@n.m.dimmick194]

Honestly while I generally dislike the long angled elves, when it's taken to the point of parody it's kind of endearing. He just looks like such a nasty spindly boi and I love it.

[@zym5435]

if you’ve listened to adventure zone, thats magic brian

[@xXspottyXx]

Same tbh

[@mariasidor6672]

About the witcher, Triss and Yenefer were witches, Yen was literally taking a whole closet with her everywhere because of magic, also the witcher world is much more complicated than it is shown in game

[@milesper8our]

I like how she just pastes a realistic face on the drawings

[@memeurr--dreemurr8530]

Yeah

[@awkward8584]

Lingerie armor for female characters is one of my biggest- but you definitely make some amazing points lol

[@bubblymilkshake9055]

Yeah right! Like what's the point of wearing an armor? I understand you want to make her look sexy. Nothing wrong with that. But it doesn't make any sense. If she's going to fight, she need a protective armor. Geez

[@Evidael]

if videogames give lingerie armor for women they at least need lingerie armor for guys too, its not fair that only the girls get to look sexy in battle 😡😡

[@starburst98]

Check out golden axe. Guy in that was built like the terminator and wore a speedo into combat.

[@dimwitteddingo]

@@starburst98 I played that in my sega genesis with my cousin and we actually liked it, we called the spear people britney spears and the fat belly bumping guys tubby's pizza and the wrecking ball people Miley cyrus lol would definitely recommend that game (it was one of those remake genesis that are preloaded with games, and tubby's pizza is an absolutely amazing pizza place in galion, don't know if it's in other places too)

[@edinhrnjic9944]

I've always liked the "brown hair dad guy" because my dad looks identical to them and he always makes jokes about it when we play games together.

[@misslady2639]

Sounds like a cool dad to me :)

[@mind.hemorrhage]

For Brown Hair Dad Guy I wasn’t sure if you were drawing Harry Mason, James Sunderland, Henry Townshend or Murphy Pendleton from the Silent Hill games.

[@emi-ne1kv]

their names say it all

[@ghosti_vx5342]

Yes like in silent hill 2 and also they give me resident evil vibes

[@ghosti_vx5342]

@@rachelgardner6247 he was

[@kurasuta3715]

Yes

[@Orchidlettux]

She showed a screenshot of Joel 💀💀

[@mysterylala7624]

elf boy rlly do be looking like a vampire though wait a second elves and vampires are both obnoxious immortal guys with pointy ears in castles who think they’re better than everyone else- I SENSE A PATTERN FORMING

[@KingkyLeor]

Elves are androgynous and vampire were first made as a depiction of gay people (secluded fabulous gentleman vibe) .... Oh

[@miri_miri_chan]

That's why I'm into both elves and vampires! They're actually the same 😌

[@Nessmess001]

To be fair, on the elder scrolls ones, in the lore elves are supposed to look alien and like humans with VERY sharp features. I actually like that they aren't just humans with pointy ears, myself The greasy hair though? Yeah thats unecesary 😔

[@shurr1945]

The way she designed gun man made me go: “Cartoon show. There should be a cartoon about gun man.”

[@Neon99]

HERE COMES GUN MAN (yeah)

[@lichofthewoods1132]

In the cartoon he's only referred to as Gun Man

[@sillygoosetaur]

@@Neon99 HERE COMES GUN MAN HE HAS BROWN HAIR DAD ENERGY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY A GUN HES GUN MAAAAAN

[@ghost_shivers5276]

Oh no don't give them ideas 🤣

[@crunchylettuce]

@@lichofthewoods1132 because his full name is Gun Man

[@Drawnonstop_]

“I’m just describing Link aren’t I?” Yikes why you callin me out there

[@Uruveilhobbit]

Aw man, I love the brown haired dad guy protagonists. 😅 Arthur is probably my favourite computer game protagonist since FemShep. 100% behind you about the creepy face tracking though! 😆

[@emorybriddell9909]

The moment you started talking about the elves i was like "so you want more links and zelda's"

[@humanoid1912]

Hylians in general.

[@kateokeeffe6111]

Look man they could have just stuck with the Tolkien elves, their hair didn’t look greasy and have you seen Orlando bloom??????

[@leximazur3076]

Orlando Bloom in that elf costume is literally the reason I'm a film major.

[@OceanWaves621]

Yassssss!

[@tsukibailluvatar7454]

Really like your videos ! About the Witcher though : the books set it un a world were universes were merged long ago, so a lots of styles are rocked by characters. Also witches use magic to look as gorgeous as possible, and makeup is a huge part of them all. They wear it like warpaint as they are often involved in politics and need to go against kings sometimes. Also about the Elder Scrolls... well it depends on the lore of the land. I think it's neat that they stay away from the typically "more beautiful than human Tolkien elf". I understand that you want them to be beautiful that being said ! Like I said, great video ^^

[@diamondjub2318]

forget Generic Shooter Protag, just give us a character creator

[@SocksWithSandalsEnjoyer]

only thing fallout 4 did right-- (ok nick valentine is perfect too 🤖❤️)

[@ghosti_vx5342]

@@SocksWithSandalsEnjoyer wtf your pfp

[@emalynscott7612]

Why, we just always make the same character everytime anyway, lol

[@alianar.d.8724]

The real life yakuza might not like Kiryu's suit but at least he's colourful

[@MothCreature13]

I'm so glad they didn't take the whole thing too seriously because it could have easily just been... generic and boring

[@alianar.d.8724]

@@MothCreature13 Agreed. Anyways Kiryu's grey/white suit is and always will be iconic. And it also makes him stand out from other serious brooding male characters.

[@lydiaaa5628]

i read an article about real yakuza members playing yakuza 3 and they actually liked kiryu’s suit 😗 google “yakuza play yakuza” and it’s the first thing that pops up

[@rattling.casket]

Actually a lot of men in the yakuza are very flamboyant, loudly-dressed men because:; as a member of a crime syndacate,, you no longer are forced to follow societal norms and rules :))) i met a few who dressed very brightly and had cute ass pins in their bangs

[@alianar.d.8724]

@@rattling.casket Oh that is actually cool! I didn't know that. I was just mainly talking about how some of the yakuza found Kiryu's suit silly looking lol. How were your experience meeting them? Did they defy your expectations?

[@Sl33pyH3adlezzzz]

Ay ay listen... the dad energy one is just comfy lmao

[@RussianRider512]

Androgynous elf guy: I think the word you’re looking for is Link lmao

[@Sogeking48]

Homie thats litterally the exact same joke the video made

[@RussianRider512]

@@Sogeking48 I know I can still comment lmao

[@Sogeking48]

@@RussianRider512 *doesnt mean you should tho*

[@RussianRider512]

@@Sogeking48 ok cool man

[@Otomachi_UnaNo.1]

I used to think link was a girl and that he was called zelda lol

[@codykoala7286]

OKAY I THINK I can explain the 2000s makeup look - I’m not an expert but this is what I assume - why characters/game models have smoking eyeliner Is to avoid the awkward mess that is programming eyelashes, waterlines and rendering colours between the skin and eye without them glitching, looking creepy or giving you Tomas the train vibes. 👁👄👁 I remember way too many times where lashes would glitch into the characters eyes in games that tried. Think early assassins creed games (poor Petruccio) or just the Eyes and mouth emoji.^

[@rozuwi]

But I feel like for the first one, it just seems more “natural” since that is what most of men in there 40s-50s. For example “ the last of us” Joel is a normal guy who is a dad and his daughter passed away. And I the way he looked is what you would think he would look. Depressed, old, and tired. I don’t know about other games but for the first one. It just shows a normal guy. Again in “the last of us” Joel is just supposed to be a normal guy

[@kingsevil5255]

Yeah and the problem is that Brown Hair Normal Guy is overdone as fuck.

[@12ratsinyourbed]

i mean you can have normal people and still give them distinguished traits. at this point you could have a normal blonde dude and that would be distinguished enough for me to be satisfied ://

[@rattling.casket]

yea but not every normal dude is a white, brooding, brunette, all-american, gun-totin' dilf.... other people exist and also fantasy settings

[@sundalosketch4769]

Yeah, where are the sad old tired red-heads at? Where are the mixed characters or guys with uniquely styled hair/beards? Heck i'd even prefer a guy with a mullet than the common brown short hair we keep getting in AAA titles

[@yayamckenzie5986]

@@rattling.casket THANK YOU

[@cypher7067]

okay so I've literally just started watching this video but I imagined a soft boy protag who is just a really nice person forced into this situation and is still really good at fighting but he just doesn't enjoy it

[@wannabehistorian371]

Luke Skywalker, maybe? Well he was more half-willing, half-forced, but still.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

You indulge in something, just not video games

[@Dressup_Doll]

So in a way, Makoto Naegi?

[@cypher7067]

@@Dressup_Doll YES IN A MAKOTO NAEGI WAY

[@kosmicznyorzeszek7849]

@@cypher7067 MAKOTO NAEGI WAY IS A GOOD WAY IS ALL I'M SAYING

[@Alistair_Bloom]

8:35 No explanation needed of why THAT'S horrifying

[@frostfire9392]

Nobody: Lavendertown: mandatory 5 o clock shadow (may evolve to a 10pm shadow if he falls on hard times)

[@OceanWaves621]

This had me laughing so hard

[@sumissketchbookd9237]

Her voice is just so soothing, wow!

[@EnchantedIDK]

One question, is my username good? Don"t worry you could tell me if it's bad! Does it give you a big youtuber vibe?

[@kawaiikat1155]

@@EnchantedIDK yeah it kinda does. sounds unique! keep up the great work!! 😄

[@buggyproductions4754]

@Micah King Who is on your pfp?

[@EnchantedIDK]

@@anisa2459 thanks!

[@EnchantedIDK]

@@kawaiikat1155 thank you so much!

[@Fruxicus]

The "plain person" main character is often made super plain and generic so the player can relate and self insert better.

[@jeremiahsmith916]

I never really got the point of this strat though. I’m playing a game/watching an anime to observe a story, and I’m perfectly fine with a story having a character as a lead, not literally me. Like, are there actually people who _want_ to _be_ the protagonist in every story?..

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

I get that but it always makes me laugh a bit because I am a teen girl. Like yes, I do relate to this depressed, probably suicidal, middle aged man.

[@lazydroidproductions1087]

@@HiBuddyyyyyy well most of them aren’t depressed to the point of bordering on suicidal. Hell, some of them aren’t even depressed, I’m pretty sure Arthur Morgan is more just exhausted but is still happy enough to keep going along with things. Booker, on the other hand, is way past bordering on suicidal. Honestly the reason he probably wasn’t dead before the start of the game is some mixture of thinking it would be too good for him and the alcohol having not quite destroyed his liver yet

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

@@lazydroidproductions1087 Yeah, I was talking more about James in Silent hill because that game was fun to me and I had a bit too much fun getting the in water ending. I haven’t played rdr 2 yet I’ve been meaning to, so it’s good to know the mc is somewhat happy in it. What is the other character you mentioned from?

[@Drag-0n]

@@HiBuddyyyyyy well, the main point of Silent Hill is to be a purgatory to the protagonist and torture them t'ill they loose their mind, OR they finally stand up and face their fears/errors from the past. Could be annoying, but its logical (for me)

[@vlcharlie4884]

The elf at the end looks like an old tutorial for yaoi characters, he has the hands, the pointy chin and everything sayifgzdsi

[@chingchongriceman7260]

**28 Stab Wounds shows up** *"I see, you are a man of culture."*

[@nishikiyama8579]

any yakuza (game) character design. more specifically, their tattoos and suits are just so cool. they all match their personalities in a way too.

[@kiara2508]

Yes I agree we need more hot elves who aren't just blonde

[@KaizerHiwatari]

Give us hot elves in 2021. It's the future we deserve. (Also give me long hair options in the character creator. I know you don't want to animate it, but I want it, so figure it tf out.)

[@hekaterinedragon8776]

And also one with short curly hair, because I've seen too many with long hair, don't get me wrong, long hair on guys looks gorgeous, but the elves look all the same from one another. Make those guys beautiful but with variety

[@kiara2508]

@@hekaterinedragon8776 yees I agree

[@SodiumSunset]

We need POC elves 😤

[@esuterunokitsune3556]

@@hekaterinedragon8776 Also styling. I don't mind them all being long haired, but, could they like... Have I dunno, braid, or a bunch of small braids, buns... that would be awesome and also would differentiate them without getting rid of the long hair. Why is it always just plain hair and sometimes one small braid?

[@Ghost-ey4id]

No one: Lavender town drawing a pointy elve butt: 8:25

[@bvttew_miilk8793]

Lol I thought I was the only one who noticed that

[@Cecil...]

Haha XD

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

@@bvttew_miilk8793 I ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT YOUR PFP

[@lechugalechuga44]

I actually love the weirdness in TES elves (except for oblivion ones) as opposed to wanting to make them look traditionally beautiful (a change I disliked from DA elves as well in the transition from DA2 to DAI) I agree with your point about realism being kind of a crutch for AAA games now tho, we need more interesting stylization not more realistic stuff

[@illumina1785]

when she used connor as an example I got reminded of how much of a SIMP I was for that robot man

[@possums154]

SAME

[@CatboyChillin]

ME TOO