r/menwritingwomen DRAWN LITERALLY // 2

[@hollyhobgoblin8838]

"A female character's job is not to be an avatar for the author's desires." YES! Couldn't have said it better myself.

[@BrooksMoses]

Hey, now, there's a place in the world for self-indulgent fantasy id-fic! Just as long as the author is *aware* that they're doing it and is doing it in someplace it's appropriate ... neither of which seem to be relevant in these cases. (But, yes, that phrase is a really good way of putting it, I agree!)

[@shilohbauer]

That entirely depends on the author's intentions. She absolutely can be.

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

Why? It’s called FICTION. Fiction where things are not real, nor should humans or physical manifestations follow the rules of logic…please tell me how many fan fictions have you read of women that follow the same rules you’re making for men, hmm? I’m sure you’re incredibly nuanced, but you’re merely “testing everyone else”, right?

[@drpeppersnumber1fan]

ok this is a “yes and no” type thing

[@drpeppersnumber1fan]

@@malbasedvalentine3210ok calm down bruh

[@Vembie]

I've noticed a strange thing about so many descriptions of women that men write, 1. they all describe her boobs 2. they describe her like one would describe a scene or object rather than a person

[@mostautisticangel]

Nice pfp

[@GibbusWibbus]

Note to the guys. Dudes. You can describe how pretty a woman is all you want but PLEASE. Don’t compare our boobs to objects it’s pretty disturbing 🥲🥲

[@ursidae97]

The opportunity to describe a woman in the story presents itself and these writers see it as the perfect opportunity to describe in great detail their own fetishes, and then they forget about the character

[@chimera9818]

That something sexes do when they think more about their ideal person body rather than describing character

[@YayaFeiLong]

I mean that's how some female writers describe their male characters too. It's not a gender thing it's a bad writing thing lol

[@watertypes4evers]

in highschool, a guy once described a busty girl's boobs as "massive goliath isopods". Not bags, not balls, not pillows, but a giant abyssal creature.

[@watertypes4evers]

like, im not a girl, so maybe thats a huge turn on to be compared to a 3 foot long arthropod.

[@undercookedtoast1479]

Need me a girl with some isopiddies

[@batyalivni3577]

​@@watertypes4eversIt isn't, but points for originality

[@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin]

I mean you have to admire his creativity if nothing else

[@YayaFeiLong]

In all fairness, isopods are dope

[@therussianprincess7036]

The terrifying thing with the “no character all body descriptions” and “making nationalities into kinks” pattern is that some people apply it irl. I work as a waitress and lemme tell you, having a customer that’s clearly much older than you keep asking about your accent and ethnicity, and age, and relationship status, and not even bothering to try to get a name… And then leaving a creepy note on a crumpled napkin about “deeper connections” with all of his contact details is, in short, disgusting.

[@aikotitilai3820]

How can someone do all what you said and not be self-aware? Like what 😭

[@AnnekeOosterink]

And like, what connection did they think they had? Mentally undressing someone and drooling is not a connection. I don't understand those people. Like, sure, sexy people exist, but they're PEOPLE. A whole ass human being, not my personal alone-time picture folder.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@aikotitilai3820- So many people have no idea how they come across. Others either know or don't care because their needs and desires are foremost.

[@Sylvainjose-satoyumiyato]

Yeah, it's creepy. I've had people say some creepy things online once they find out I'm part Korean and am bi (usually K-pop stans) :(. I really wish that people just would, yknow, not fetishize people for their race or who they're attracted to?

[@shawmiserix404]

yikes that's incredibly creepy

[@julianaart]

If male characters were described the same way: He was tall, taller than the Empire State Building. His abs were so taut they looked like a handheld revolver that could blow a hole through my face. his pecs were immaculate, not the fat saggy moobs, or the rock hard gym rat muscles. But perfect pecs, like a love interest in a webtoon. He smirked with cherry red, plump lips that seemed to whisper my name, the deep vibrato of his voice making my whole body vibrate. “Heyyyy kittennnnn” and fell over as his deep bass voice blasted me into the wall. He was so hot. Ryan Gosling! Very hot…

[@sapateirovalentin348]

Why does he speak like a discord mod though

[@MewJoy]

This is hilarious! 😂 I was hoping there would be a guy version. Thank you.

[@ohwowitsme8548]

"hand held revolver" "Deep bass voice blasted me onto the wall" excuse me what 😭😭 Don't even get me started on the "hey kitten"

[@Scrarf4]

as a straight guy il be honest this sounds not bad, the voice part is really good... the kitten part is bad tho... am I not self aware enough here that am missing the irony?

[@BrooksMoses]

​@@Scrarf4 : I think it's context. As "an avatar of the author's desires" (or, more accurately, as a an over-the-top parody of such), it's great. And there are stories where that would be appropriate, even. It would fit nicely in a self-aware silly romance or erotica, for instance. To get the proper effect, you'd need to put it in a book that was not at all a parody, where he was not a potential romance interest of the main character, and do this for basically every male character in the book. And, even so, this is missing some of the pieces that make the female-character descriptions bad. For the full effect, it should also always mention the size of their crotch bulge, and for the non-white men, pull the half of the description from standard stereotypes like mentioning "squinty eyes" and "subservient nature" on the Asian men, and "chocolate skin" and "uncontrolled animal nature" for the Black men. Over and over and over.

[@Accyber]

"A few drops of coffee in milk" is a person's way of making a character as white as possible while still being able to call her "exotic"

[@Angel3x111]

"her skin was like a cup of coffee, that was mostly milk because she was white"

[@nonstoryadict]

@@Angel3x111STANZI FAN!! Love to see it❤

[@SillyTransmasc_Duck]

@@Angel3x111STANZIIII!!

[@maddieo333]

@@Angel3x111EXACTLY what I was thinking!!!!

[@desil30stm]

Initially I misunderstood and I thought it said ''a few drops of milk in coffee'', and I was like like, oh cool, a black character...I was wrong lol

[@CamiTheGranny]

"She looked up from her book. She wasn't like other girls - Never wanting to be in the spotlight, she chose books as company in place of people. She was as sharp as a tac and Wreguise liked her for that. But, he was a jock and she, well, was just a nerd."

[@-Some_Random_Chicken-.]

WHY’S THIS SO ACCURATE😭😭

[@kitti3thesnake581]

LMFAO

[@GoofyAhhBoxy]

Every watt pad story ever

[@WooffzTheCoon]

WREGUISE?? GOOD GOD THAT IS AN AWFUL NAME 10/10 KZbin COMMENTER I APPLAUD YOU

[@CamiTheGranny]

Lol. It was either that or my future kid's name, "Phluhmpee"@@WooffzTheCoon

[@ArkbladeIX]

I love that you turned the 2nd girl into some fucked up body horror mermaid. For the last girl, I actually took a screenshot and crossed out the obsessively repetitive beautiful/perfect/great talk, the weird hatred for specific types of red hair, and the weirder hatred for girls with eating disorders. It made the whole text half as long without losing any of the actual description.

[@Fluff_Noodles]

I wish the author herself had done that and then chosen to not put any of that garbage into the story 💀

[@bogwife7942]

@@Fluff_Noodles the parenthesis asides and pop culture references gave me the impression that she was writing an unreliable narrator. could be wrong though

[@Fluff_Noodles]

@@bogwife7942 God I hope so. But unfortunately quirky, cynical, not like other girls female protagonists are common in female lead stories and they're written as the hero of the story. 💀

[@Bobbys_Sketching]

​@@bogwife7942the narrator is a highschool girl that got turned into a vampire and she's clumsy and quirky but turns out she's the most powerful vampire ever and she saved the world pretty much

[@Bobbys_Sketching]

​@@Fluff_Noodlesanother thing about the girl author is that it's written by two girls, a mother and a daughter

[@MellowJelly]

That woman author not only dissed women struggling with EDs, she also dissed women who are naturally thin due to high metabolism! She sounds so bitter, jealous and insecure. I can't imagine she wrote her narrator like that without it being true to herself as well. It's just so on the nose.

[@animal_gal_adventures9885]

And to the lesser extent how much she bashed on people with red hair. Like what is there only one "good" blond or "perfect" brown? What about texture? I wouldn't be surprised if she had issues with people who had short, curly hair or something.

[@TamWam_]

YEAH i have fast metabolism, but im also a picky eater and get full easily so im literally severely underweight and have no idea how to gain it.. 😭

[@TamWam_]

@@perpetualheadache6124 yes but sometimes the author's views and stuff seeps into the actual character. if the whole book was written like that, then its most likely the authors views too.

[@Merilirem]

@@TamWam_ At the very least its something they think about a lot.

[@umbrellahat1232]

@@perpetualheadache6124 Why are you fighting so hard to defend the author? The only thing you know about her is this gross, unrealistic depiction of a female character that is honestly very harmful, find better battles to fight

[@rainbowgirl918_5]

The fact that the first one says "...forced him to consider that sexy women who loved other women as a painful waste of evolution" is PAINFUL💀

[@_afancyhat_]

I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT WHAT WAS THAT 💀

[@spacegay9309]

I think pretty women being straight is wasteful. A creature so beautiful, holding hands with Adam Sandler

[@TheVoicesOfTheBeyond]

I think there's a reason no girl wants to hook up with the narrator...

[@Anindeterminateamountofbees]

At least the description makes sense there tho, it’s an obviously horrible character describing women in ways in line with his personality

[@itsnotanobsessioniswear]

I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT!?

[@annagrace590]

the barbie ish character written by a woman is terrifying in alot of ways but the jab at eating disorders was nasty. Like say you haven't struggled without saying it outloud

[@LeoLeoLeo12P]

It was very "not like other girls" vibes, but even worst.

[@gigahorse1475]

I want to give the author the benefit of the doubt… it’s possible that the author is describing the other character through the eyes of a character who is a total jerk and an unreliable narrator. I think only that could make that line excusable.

[@danielamaria6810]

Wee need a new category "pick mes writting women"

[@avencree]

I’m almost certain that line was from a House of Night book. The main character is awful and these asides (things in parentheses and wholly obnoxious) are a hallmark of that author’s writing style.

[@saintdude6032]

@@avencree bruh when the MC decided to dunk on other women for no reason, I just knew that this came from House of Night. Like I think i heard the (I wish I had great boobs) from a video about it.

[@yourshoulderdevil5229]

There's nothing wrong with wanting something in a person, the problem is how it's described. Like her body is wayyy more important then everything else about her, and it's described in a way that it sounds like they're trying to sell you a woman instead of describing someone they're looking for in a partner. Anyway, I'm now thinking about writing a story about a woman who is constantly described like the girls in this video where people say the weirdest, thirstiest, confusing things about her, but then when the main character finally meets her she literally looks exactly how she was described, but instead of hot it's absolutely terrifying, like biblically accurate angel levels of horror. This idea does no belong to me and it's unlikely that I'll actually write it, so if anyone does decide that they want to write this go ahead, just make sure to provide a link or something lol

[@mr.lampshade]

that's a great idea, not being sarcastic

[@thebakingpomegranate6295]

I would, one hundred percent, read this unironically.

[@crybabylovecats]

Waitttt that genuinely sounds so interesting

[@onyourleft4194]

regarding your first comment, i agree. having a type of body you like is okay! it's normal! but making a person's body the most important thing about them and horrifically objectifying them is not okay. and it's not okay when you want someone to genuinely be unhealthy (such as having EDs). regarding your second comment, it would be even more horrifying if to the side characters her description is perfectly normal. like, some type of mind-fuck thing where even if they appear perfectly normal and know what a human should look like, and describe her accurately, they can't grasp that she isn't a human and doesn't look like one in the slightest. the mc would know that something's really wrong, but nobody else does, so it creates a like... town-wide (or wherever it takes place) gaslighting situation where the mc is the only one who knows that This Is Not A Human.

[@insertfunnyname9763]

I write short stories in my free time, and I might write a really short story about this. I'll come back to copy and paste it on here or something if I actually do it tho-

[@sleepy.timaeus.arts.]

“his lack of committment there was really stressful to me as an artist, and i really wish that he had changed that” 😭🤣

[@sleepy.timaeus.arts.]

“her doom hips. it’s just like a cloud of warfare down there” lmao im loving the quotes of this vid so much and we’ve barely even begun 🙈

[@K1TSZU]

okay this is really unrelated but OMG ur pfp is so nice!! did u draw it or was it a gift/commission?

[@sleepy.timaeus.arts.]

@@K1TSZU tyty, it’s my sona and i used a picrew by wervty!

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

The second character's description is so bizarre I'm not sure we're even supposed to think she's attractive. He calls the waist's thinness worrisome, he compares the breast to fish and says they're so far appart from eachother that it "bifurcates" the torso. If the author's intention was for the reader to find this woman unhealthy or uneasy to the eye, he succeeded... otherwise, yeeesh

[@BrooksMoses]

And a fishnet dress "from her fisherman period"? Seriously? It's as if the author has no idea that fishnet dresses have very little to do with actual fishing.

[@nala7829]

I can't even imagine how my captain would react if I showed up to a run in a fishnet dress 🤣​@@BrooksMoses

[@WooffzTheCoon]

@@BrooksMosesperhaps she stole an actual fish net while she was a fisherman and made it into a dress? Idk gasping at straws here :þ

[@NeroNyte]

I find this way of writing really inorganic. Like, it implies that the moment these characters witness a woman, they just Sherlock Holmes analyze every detail of their body, when no one does that in real life. You notice more things about someone the longer you spend time with them. Immediately describing their whole body just feels like all that matters is their body, to the character and the writer.

[@cassandrabelyeu2419]

I wonder if there are men who do analyze every body part in isolation before expending mental energy on anything else? Some men do awkwardly stare like you’re inanimate.

[@alenazwiep2996]

I mean as a writer I often wish I could just include a colored picture of every character at their introduction. That would solve about 73% of my problems. Alas, I'm expected to describe all these people, and figuring out how to organically state someone's skin color (without sounding racist) is next to impossible. Screech

[@cassandrabelyeu2419]

@@alenazwiep2996 How much does it really matter?

[@alenazwiep2996]

@@cassandrabelyeu2419 Not a whole lot, but I have had people complain about my lack of descriptions.

[@flwrsforlay]

​@@alenazwiep2996you can. you can do... whatever you want, it's your creation

[@9ightdreamer]

I just noticed that almost all these women have notable descriptions of their chest - weird, huh?

[@AnkhAnanku]

I don’t think we hear about Madison’s (tall with soft feet)

[@spam-el3ee]

@AnkhAnanku The only exception 🥲

[@MsLilly200]

@@AnkhAnanku I mean it's pretty clear in that case that the author is usually looking a lot further down when checking out women.

[@Sharie_mabari]

@@MsLilly200 Bro needs to keep his foot fetish out of his books lol

[@laisphinto6372]

What do you expect we we're raised by them

[@smolpeepee245]

"small breasts pointing skyward like surface-to-air missiles" is so insanely funny i can't believe someone wrote that lol

[@selfworth183]

IKR😭 How is that even Possible😭

[@AerCloud]

I can't believe it got published 😂😂😂😂

[@AerCloud]

I can't believe it got published 😂😂😂😂

[@_afancyhat_]

@@AerCloud NO SERIOUSLY the effort to get an agent to accept your work is BRUTAL and somehow THIS made it out of the slush pile? I'm doomed 💀

[@julietfischer5056]

@@_afancyhat_- Unless it was self-published.

[@mercyriddle]

Even though the one written by a woman wasn't horny, it was so mean spirited I'm like... bring back the fish guy lmao.

[@ArcstoneBionicle]

As a dude and a writer, this simultaneously hurt me and renewed my confidence in my abilities. So, thank you!

[@Agueybana1978]

Agreed, WTH are these descriptions?!?

[@doodle-boy]

4:45 had me actually laughing out loud, just the fish's face and that stock sound hit me right in the funny bone.

[@LilacWishes]

hey have you ever thought about making a video on what you imagined your characters from unfamiliar's voices would sound like? i would be really interested in watching a video like that.

[@SLUSHiiCiD3]

I need this ohmygod

[@magika_nya]

That’s such a good idea omg! We need that

[@Anindeterminateamountofbees]

Oh that’s such a good idea!!!!

[@shinysmeargle2037]

The last one is actually from a young adult novel about vampires. I believe the series is called Marked? The book is FULL of lines like that. The main character is always insulting other “pretty” girls, calls them sluts, says some pretty racist things about black hairstyles and Native Americans too. What’s worse is it’s written by two women who are mother and daughter. If you made a drinking game out of how many times the main character insults people for things they can’t control, you’d be dead within the first few pages.

[@avencree]

I’m glad I’m not the only one that clocked that horrible writing. The House of Night books are just plain bad.

[@sheriffopossum]

OMFG THAT FUGGN SERIES 😭😭😭 didn't the main character get manipulated by an adult at one point who then took advantage of her? I think it was this series where that happened but I remember reading it as a lonely high schooler thinking that was "sooo mature and cool" of her 😔

[@Sly-Moose]

WTF?! How do these people get published?!

[@ShortSkullDog]

Didn't Jamed Tullos do a video on that?

[@ursidae97]

Jesus Christ

[@bbaugher2419]

My best guess with the soft feet thing is that she lacked calluses... which is wack, because humans _need_ calluses in order for walking to not be painful. Like for example, if you walk barefoot over gravel all summer, at the beginning it will hurt like hell, but at the end you have thick enough calluses that will protect you. Anyways, I'm not a foot expert like Tarantino, I just have feet and know what feet do.

[@Phantom86d]

Maybe she's like a Hobbit and grows hair on the bottoms of her feet?

[@tamsel814]

I once had some type of infection (fungal I think) that are away at my feet calusses. Afterwards my feet did admittedly look pretty. But indeed walking barefoot or on thin soled shoes hurt. I was so happy when I regrew my calluses and never want to go back.

[@Bogbaddie]

10:59 hell no. as someone who actually really struggles with eating disorders n stuff thats just plain offensive

[@yoink7147]

0:50 "Conde's male chauvinism--which could not be helped--forced him to consider that sexy woman who loved other women as a painful waste of evolution." ---> "Conde's [misogyny]--which [he can't be bothered to fix--caused] him to [be homophobic unless he's allowed to watch ayooooo]."

[@maryanntheconqueror]

"Skin like milk with a few drops of coffee" sir I know you're trying to make an "eXOtIC" character but that's just white.

[@MsLilly200]

Ah but she also has big luscious "ethnic" lips! How would he know they were natural, and not made of silicone, if she didn't have a few drops of coffee in her beautiful milky skin!? /s

[@LeoDBW]

That's at BEST an irish person who managed to get a light tan

[@flwrsforlay]

shii im black and i it's funny ngl

[@Mary-Ann_B_Mabaet]

@@flwrsforlay LMAO your comment reminded me of another sister's post about how modern people, especially a LOTTA white folk, trying TOO damn hard to look like what black people NATURALLY got! Luscious Lips, Wide Hips -- you name it! Haaaaah! She ain't wrong though!

[@Shawarma101]

I AM SO HAPPY YOU MADE A PART 2 I love this series sm 😭😭

[@tinniesealjiji]

I cant wait for part 3

[@Thelucky_ducky]

Same

[@Coco_bean..]

Same I love it!!!!

[@ulforcemegamon3094]

Same , can't wait for part 3 !

[@drongobrat6471]

i love how you describe the traits in the second character, just getting more and more incredulous. cuz normally you stay so calm lol

[@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin]

Good lord, the second description was so bizarre that it made Lavendertowne's abandon her normal whisper and almost start shouting in disbelief

[@axel6640]

Ok about the ED thing, you are amazing for putting a trigger warning and a help line to call. I've had issues with food, not bad but I know opeople w ho had it bad, so it is amazing that you are so respectful and aware with the situation.

[@AlisterSweets]

As a natural red head I really got slapped by the "Not that horrid carrot top red"

[@Imjustkendall]

That author was so mean and for what? For the record, not even trying to make you feel better, I genuinely have always thought the “carrot top red” hair was so pretty and as a kid wished my own hair was more like that (I love my hair now lol, but I just wanna let you know this author is ONE hateful person and you’re beautiful)

[@AlisterSweets]

@@Imjustkendall aww you are so sweet, thank you

[@jstarstudios7110]

@@AlisterSweetsI think it's named after a redheaded comedian with the stage name "Carrot Top"

[@AlisterSweets]

@@jstarstudios7110 no, it wasn't. that terms been around a lot longer then hes been alive.

[@P1cniCAT]

SAME?

[@sakuriyinn]

Omg finally part 2 ! This really shows how absolutely RIDICULOUS most of the descriptions of women made by men are

[@flwrsforlay]

you haven't read a lot of books, in different genres, have you?

[@sakuriyinn]

@@flwrsforlay I did actually! In 3 different languages. I don't get what you are trying to say ?

[@flwrsforlay]

@@sakuriyinn woah that's cool, what languages?

[@sakuriyinn]

@@flwrsforlay French, English and German ! French and English are novels but I'd admit that German is mostly children's or preteen's books haha

[@Meimoons]

@@flwrsforlayyeah where were you going with this? 🧐

[@abnormalstarfish]

Imagine seeing someone and thinking ‘their feet would be really soft’

[@B0YWH0ATECRAY0NZ]

I'm just now realizing that all this series is reminding me of is how I'd picture characters when I read books as a kid and that one episode of TAWOG where Sarah writes fanfiction and everything she writes is acted out literally.

[@redfoxgirl1993]

As someone with natural red hair (carrot top red) and struggles with an eating disorder, the woman author can screw off. Also thank you for your response to it. 💜

[@artCharles]

I'm definitely looking forward to future parts of this series! Though, that fourth author kind of disturbs me, with that random "She wasn't a skinny freak like a girl with an EATING DISORDER," just being thrown in there.

[@pigcatapult]

Yeah that narration was downright meanspirted.

[@flwrsforlay]

I think that's more the character speaking, not the author

[@pigcatapult]

@@flwrsforlay You know, that's a good point. Unreliable narrators exist and are allowed to be fucked up. Let's hope the quote was just out of context.

[@theskrunkly1213]

​@@pigcatapultthe entire rest of the series that the quote is from is like that sadly, + random slutshaming, its really fucking weird especially considering other than that the character who says it isnt described as bad and its just normal?? 😭

[@_m1LkY_]

These ppl are literally using anything to describe breasts. What's next? A meerkat??💀💀

[@KatNips]

I swear to God I think I've already seen one where the main character describes the girl's boobs as "peeking up like meerkats"

[@_m1LkY_]

@@KatNips WHAT.

[@honey8ter]

“her breasts were perky and peeked out of her dress like meerkats”

[@raviponso3887]

​@@KatNipsWhat a coincidence.

[@FoxtrotMouse]

"Her boobs were Prarie Dogs as she walked sexily down the street, popping teasingly in and out the top of her tight, barely-there shirt. They even made squeaking noises as they did."

[@Waspinmymind]

Notice how a lot of these man write these women like fixtures on a wall or just straight up sex dolls. Like the description works against these characters dehumanizing them.

[@SonnetRegehr]

Sexy woman who love other women is a painful waist of evolution...? 😠😡🤬 Thank you so much for saying that line sucks big time; it REALLY does. You're an amazing artist by the way. I absolutely love everything you're doing! ❤❤❤

[@LeoDBW]

"I don't like lesbians because they don't want to f*ck ME 😡😡😡"

[@Bobbys_Sketching]

The one written by a girl sounded so insanely familiar to me and I searched a little and it's from the first House of Night book! There are TONS of other examples of women being described that could be in these videos. There's a full physical description of every character. (The poc women's descriptions almost always include coffee or chocolate)

[@Emilightning]

As a lesbian, that first passage has me in tears. 😂 I too just want a girl with tragic jungle eyes and small missile boobs. Your illustrations are so endearing though! I love how you can turn these ridiculous descriptions into actually kind of adorable girls ❤

[@Mx._M_o_t_h]

Can’t forget the doom battle ground hips

[@chaiguro]

The lesbian dream tbh

[@amalathisdreaming]

Angelina Jolie 😂

[@Mx._M_o_t_h]

@@chaiguro so true

[@lorddumb21]

Whats her deal? Missle warfare on her chest

[@RodentMcGregorTheRodentMan]

As a dude who *tries* to write decently, I'm really happy I'm not like these people lmao

[@suckedintothevoid]

So you're a "he's not like the other guys" type of guy? 😂 (just joking, I appreciate your inclusion of "tries"!)

[@RodentMcGregorTheRodentMan]

@@suckedintothevoid Jeez, I'm not THAT unique lmao

[@Imjustkendall]

@@suckedintothevoidleave him alone we love the self aware boyssss

[@berryxvxnilla2375]

Aye, glad to know that you're trying! Definitely appreciate that.

[@RodentMcGregorTheRodentMan]

@@berryxvxnilla2375 Thanks!

[@MikaelaCher]

The second one is straight up a Lovecraftian horror

[@Agueybana1978]

That writer should be hired to make horror monsters.

[@Sockconsumist]

The last line from the last description😭😭 “and she had great boobs” BRO DIDN’T EVEN TRYYYYY

[@me5yago625]

LITERALLY

[@IntrusiveThot]

There’s another one from another vid that ends with something like “And her face was very beautiful too”. Dude couldn’t be bothered

[@icebox1954]

Why is that bad? Why do people need a poetic description that ultimately just minces words to convey the same thing? This is why I don't like reading books. So much wasted time describing meaningless things instead of concepts and ideas.

[@Sockconsumist]

@@icebox1954 the point of books is to describe meaningless things in a beautiful way. I can tell you don’t like books, and that’s fine, you can be a more practical person, but writing is an art form which means things are supposed to be written in a romanticized manner.

[@icebox1954]

@@Sockconsumist That's not true. Books are not supposed to be written in only one type of way. That's like saying movies are only supposed to be made in one type of way. The point of books is to convey ideas. That's the most fundamental truth of communication. I don't mind romanticised descriptions if it actually matters.For example a beautiful scenery as the climax of a harrowing journey. But you shouldn't describe what a random stone or person looks like if it isn't actually important to the plot. A lot of books have surface level depth. Where's the socioeconomic and geopolitical intricacies of the fantasy kingdom? I want to hear about the tax codes and why coins are worth what they are. Something that brings the world alive instead of some vapid description of a beautiful woman you don't even know. I read "Stalin's Cows" by Sofi Oksanen. The book is ruined by endless descriptions of feelings even though the subjects are interesting. At the end I was just happy to be done because of the endless descriptions. It isn't impressive or a sign of great skill, it's a waste of time and effort.

[@ascrinkleyfellow]

Honestly, the "bifurcated" torso looks really cool- It's such a gnarly idea that it's perfect for a monster design!

[@AuroraLaurialis]

Honestly the one about the girl named Madison isn’t awful if you take away the weird foot fetish bit.

[@Sly-Moose]

And the jab at people with lots of freckles

[@Nerodotnet]

My exact thoughts lol. She sounds cute ignoring all… that..

[@bogwife7942]

true! I liked that he have her a 'fun' outfit and not necessarily a sexy outfit. the bar really is on the ground lol

[@microwave4626]

Ngl she kinda reminds me of rin kagamine (either that or behemo barisol, I think it's the hair and eyes lol)

[@kaminapearl7390]

Nah the jab at freckled people is worse. I guess characterizing the narrator as a feet guy isn't the worst thing...

[@Brass_legs]

I love this so much, taking the characters' descriptions and giving them life, removing them from the male gaze that they were created under. The fish tits are also A++

[@flwrsforlay]

tf is the "male gaze"? that just kinda sounds off ngl

[@SquiddyBonneBouche]

@@flwrsforlayIt is something women learn to live with every day. Excellent theory from Laura Mulvey. You should read about it.

[@flwrsforlay]

@@SquiddyBonneBouche maybe just explain to me what it is? 😅

[@SquiddyBonneBouche]

@@flwrsforlay Just do some research 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@abnormalstarfish]

I really like how the guy in the second one is not at all concerned about her (seemingly) sentient fish breasts

[@sweetasToffee]

I actually like the second character's design a lot, and I like to believe that this is exactly what the author wanted to convey with that description

[@beeshark222]

See, this is why I keep my descriptions as short as possible while conveying what I need to; She was tall, and had her head tilted to one side, amber eyes staring at him with slight irritation. Her skin was pale, and dark hair fell over her shoulders like a waterfall. She wore a blue suit.

[@rosemary3029]

Yass queen women in suits

[@HinayukkiDevotee]

Hello...I think you meant being "succinct", and it can be quite a virtue in writing narratives! My apologies for this late reply & you probably aren't seeking advice anyway, but perhaps the paragraph could be improved in terms of grammatical structure (i.e. not so many 'samey' sentences in a row beginning with "she was...", so as to not sound repetitive) and/or narrative logics (i.e. describing the subject in a conventional order that a casual observer will follow) "A tall, pale figure suited in blue, she fixed her amber-shade gaze upon him in slight irritation, tilting her head and animated her flowing dark tresses down the shoulders." Maybe this could be a further improvement to your original example (and even shorter!)? Thanks for reading this.

[@beeshark222]

@@HinayukkiDevotee OOOOOOO I REALLY like that sentence.

[@puzzlick7088]

After watching this, it makes me wonder how they write other men, if they even do that, or if its only that female character thats depicted like that and all the other characters are told in a somewhat normal way

[@AnkhAnanku]

It’s definitely only the female characters that get this treatment, unfortunately. I want more hands likened to hams and ballsacks with their own agency 😩

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

​@@AnkhAnanku you reminded me of David Morrell's novelization of the film Rambo 2, who infamously had descriptions like "Rambo's scrotum shrank when he saw the enemy's searchlight" or "the electricity [of the torture device] gave him an involuntary erection" and other pearls of genitals emoting more than faces

[@aikotitilai3820]

Reminds me of that one parody tweet where a woman writes a male character like men write female characters. It involved the female protagonist hearing the squirming of the sperms inside the guy's testicles

[@mintallylost222]

Well, you don't see male characters being introduced with their ball sacks being the first thing described about them, do you?

[@kathleenwoods8416]

well, usually they get amazing fascial hair & an unexplored work ethic.

[@JustGoo0se]

Okay but the second one, the way you drew it, would make for a very interesting fantasy character! With the fish boobs being questionable, I really like what you did with the crevice part of the description and the narrow hips/stomach area. Well done! You're very good at drawing.

[@snekbetch5674]

How do these descriptions get more unhinged? Beautiful art as always though!

[@jellyfishfingernail]

6:03 i feel like this is kind of a cool character concept lol. some kind of ocean shapeshifter trying to turn into what humans for some reason find attractive yet makes zero sense, and forcing fish to join them to create a specific shape.

[@SqualorOpera]

4:48 I have never once heard Lavendertowne express so much emotion in her voice as she does in the next thirty seconds of this

[@ocularcavity8412]

One of the reason I don't read "romance" novels unless they have another Genre mixed in is because MOST author's (male or female) design characters that are a Cliche with list of their ideal mate options all combined (whether it makes sense or not) and usually the main character is very ordinary or borderline unattractive but still manages to pull in this Top Tier specimen STRAIGHT towards them like a black hole for implausible or unknown reasons. It really takes me out of the story when the author is too incompetent to make it so I can suspend disbelief in a simple love story, when a competent author can make Time Travel, Curses, Aliens, Monsters, Alternate Dimensions, Cryptids and supernatural serial killers feel more Plausible than two regular humans falling in love

[@amethyst_cat9532]

Too many romance novels are "author-insert and author's ideal partner" and not enough romance novels are "these two characters have great chemistry and you want to see them develop their relationship"

[@ocularcavity8412]

@@amethyst_cat9532 I ABSOLUTELY AGREE

[@Procrastination21345]

Or when the main character (Usually a girl) is give absolutely no agency 😭 like as a stupid male even I’m like “Girl to many red flags run”

[@ocularcavity8412]

@@Procrastination21345 LOL True, I wonder if this lack of understanding when it comes to how a balanced human interactions actually go, is a sign of of our times socially or just the fact that so many people now are creatively bankrupt when it comes to story telling

[@denizkaragullu6239]

Why is this so true? I am sick and tired of romance manwhas with the same cold, smart and tall CEO guy with side-part short black hair. And the way they just fall for a random clumsy girl... It is never believable

[@charlenef3308]

Your sarcasm throughout this series is spectacular

[@jamandhoney375]

None of your creepypastas or just creepy re-draws come close to my QUEENS! 🖐️😩

[@luxury_nightmare]

0:56 mmm just a sprinkle of homophobia. For flavor

[@axehead45]

'You can have a little homophobia with your dinner as a treat :D'

[@dazai_kinnie_n.1]

@@axehead45 "mmm, yummers! I was starving!"

[@2knowwons]

Delicious 💀

[@IntrusiveThot]

“Oh actually this dinner is already pretty well seasoned, I don’t need any more s-“ _[waiter aggressively continues seasoning with unbroken eye contact]_

[@VickyViolet]

Loving your comments about freckles, and how they are naturally sparse. Realistically, they pop up in the most unusual places. Personally, freckles are one of my favorite "flaws" to put on my characters. 😊

[@lucaantoniofiscarelli2184]

I said it one and I say it again: the descriptions are horrendous, but your designs are THE BEST THING EVER I love all of these and previous girls! Please yes part 3!

[@identitycrisis5020]

i LOVE these videos sm your humour and sarcasm make these videos so entertaining to watch, and the absurdism of drawing literal versions of these absolutely insane descriptions kills me every time these videos are such a delightfully weird trip to experience ♡

[@stuchly1]

As a guy... 💀 I mean like... These are actual sentences actual guys have managed to get in print. 😮 I really enjoy your commentary and your artwork and would be happy to see part 3.

[@GrrDOOM]

Stuff like this makes me feel more confident that I might actually get published... Also these videos are fantastic I love the unintentional eldritch horrors these descriptions inspire and how you draw them. Bless.

[@phantomeowz]

The way that you can always tell when a woman is written by a man just by how they describe a woman's appearance is crazy

[@Good_luck_.]

Your monotone voice through your sarcasm is so fckin funny

[@Mel_Bat]

I think that the second passage managed to get on my personal podium of r/menwritingwomen (the first place still is the one about skin the color of fresh pressed olive oil -- neon green)

[@AerCloud]

Olive oil only comes out that green with modern pressing. If you look at the ancient practices, Olive oil was a very subtle golden tone when pressed. Song of Achilles, a book where a character is described as having fresh pressed Olive oil skin, is written by a classics professor. She researched the ancient practices and described the character's skin as this. Idk which book you're thinking of, but that's the one I encountered

[@leoeevee8516]

"ThiS iS ThE FaCe ThaT gREeTs YoU" Kinda shocked me

[@gracerolling3015]

I know this probably won’t be as popular a genre, but women writing men might be interesting to explore also 😂 love this series!

[@Moonstar79]

7:37 "Madison had shoulder length blonde hair..." *Me:* oh no "and a yellow summer dress..." *Me:* oh noo "and was model-tall" *Me:* phew we're nothing alike

[@isabrom5295]

"I feel like we are getting into Hellraiser teritory", I didn't know I needed this quote but I am glad that it exists in this context.

[@-starrysunrise-2908]

The last one’s face and eyes make her look like a stereotypical space alien 👽 “Take me to your leader!” *womanly flex*

[@Teresalillie]

I love this series so much! Please do a part 3!!

[@cottoncatpersonal]

People make up any reason to not feel guilty for defending misogyny, it's crazy she had to address two "criticisms" that didn't even make sense

[@laisphinto6372]

As If women never described men in ridiculous ways

[@cottoncatpersonal]

???? That has nothing to do with what I said, if you don't like r/menwritingwomen then don't watch content about it.

[@swoosh3217]

Idk what exactly it is but your delivery when talking about drawing the second girl had me absolutely cackling. The sheer shock and horror about the goliath grouper boobs, the goliath grouper jumpscare, 11/10 truly impeccable

[@Kyaa_.]

Whoa a pt 2, noice! its honestly cool seeing what these woman could look like when taken litterly.

[@darkguardian011]

4:55 The exasperated terror of "I'm gonna have to draw that." is inordinately funny to me

[@cravinguravity]

the descriptions in these are such good prompts for like an art activity with friends because of the different interpretations 🐱

[@n00bplayer72]

If I could suggest a future drawing topic: You've done worst design tropes, but what about your personal favourite design tropes? It doesn't need to be anything specific, it could be from a genre or certain outfits or poses, etc. But what do you love seeing whenever it pops up?

[@figthegiant4065]

As an amateur writer, I have no concerns about ending up on this subreddit bc I barely give any description for my characters, ever💀 At best theyre all disembodied voices that happen to have a specific hair or eye colour attributed to them

[@amer6706]

Tolkien be like:

[@ariannebrodeur]

This has made me miss your by the book series a ton! You should try maybe making videos where you design characters based off of really good character descriptions! Idk I have fun doing that so it'd be cool to see!

[@TheVideolover45]

I really liked your attitude in this video, you just sound SO done, and I get wanting to be nice and wholesome but sometimes it's nice to hear someone be a little more abrasive haha

[@neddles33]

I feel like there was a description in the last one that also ended with "and she had great boobs". Honestly they should all end that way, its a perfect punchline.

[@Bexcalibur]

This is the most concerned I’ve ever heard her 4:38

[@n2izzyfan]

Fr

[@dontknow12345]

12:55 The way she out an actual picture of moss-

[@crosssans6245]

MOSS!!

[@CresentMoonVideos]

I actually forced myself to make my character have freckles all over her body because just having them over the nose started to make me feel some type of way.

[@pumkitdrawz]

wdym?? like you dont like freckles or you do?

[@CresentMoonVideos]

@@pumkitdrawz No, nothing like that. It just felt off for me; though I don't know if anybody does have freckles just on their face. I just never met any and most my family have em all over

[@FoxtrotMouse]

​@@CresentMoonVideos You can have freckles/spots on just your face from sun damage. I don't know if that counts.

[@Merilirem]

@@CresentMoonVideos I have met a few. Believe me I checked. Definitely a minority but possible. Not really a good or bad thing though. I guess some people like them only on the face.

[@Views_of_Eight]

⁠@@CresentMoonVideosI mostly only have freckles on my face. They’re super faded since I don’t spend nearly enough time in the sun, but they’re mostly the classic “over the bridge of the nose”, then kinda spill out onto my cheeks. I do have some spots on my back, shoulders, and limbs, but not a lot. I’m surprised that they’re not actually that common, considering how many people draw and describe them that way

[@venii_95]

Ive never heard breasts being described like fish yet here we are

[@jellyfishfingernail]

11:28 it's so awful how it's comparing to other people and saying that the character is better

[@lostrebel]

the choice of the word bifurcated was amazing. They sound like they were trying to sound smart.

[@wrennie1532]

I just read a book FOR SCHOOL that spent 2 paragraphs describing breasts, and later another paragraph of the same woman, wnd at the end of the book, another paragraph if a different womans breasts. Why? WHY KEN KESEY?

[@Simple_human29]

10:16 OMG I THOUGHT IT WAS A FIN ON HER LEG😭😭😭

[@GENKIstarKID]

The editing on this video is TOP TIER! I'm dying of laughter from the imagery mixed with the passages you're reading. And of course the art looks so good

[@HoneyDew-vk1fr]

I’m really liking this series so far! Keep going! :DD

[@Puschel_Blume]

Coming back to binge-watch these videos, because I am sick, hear that voice and i just melt away. now iam a blob

[@Gir_fan]

I always giggle at the new overlays you have been recently using

[@an_awkward_crybaby]

The the book that mentioned eating disorders absolutely pissed me off, too. I don’t have an ED, but as someone who is constantly insecure about her body, people who say bs like this disgust me…

[@hihi-kv8kv]

Lavender has been getting more sarcastic lately and she’s very funny

[@merriellenroselette5191]

Omfg this one was even better than the last! Miss Fish Boobs is definitely going to haunt my dreams tonight. I love this series so much.

[@allison5591]

I love how absurd(but lovely) the drawings come out when you put these descriptions together.

[@Seelie_Serenus]

You’ve heard of the bullet bra. Now introducing the missile boob! These drawings are fantastic as always. Ty for the awesome upload!