The WORST NHL Draft Predictions of All Time

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@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
Rip Tony Esposito 🙏. One of Hockey's Greatest Goaltenders
@nonohockey
@nonohockey 3 жыл бұрын
Its sad to see one of the best goalies of his era die.
@TeamOT
@TeamOT 3 жыл бұрын
Sad seeing the legends go one by one. RIP.
@grumpyguy2877
@grumpyguy2877 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Tony 😞
@saltywingsandavsfan
@saltywingsandavsfan 3 жыл бұрын
One of the Goat of goalies
@colecaulyfield
@colecaulyfield 3 жыл бұрын
I know. Rip Tonio
@maximairapetov5450
@maximairapetov5450 3 жыл бұрын
When Pierre McGuire says that was not a good draft pick, then you will know that it was a great draft pick
@ChiefBlue4298
@ChiefBlue4298 3 жыл бұрын
The dude is an idiot, I feel sorry for the Ottawa Senators for hiring him
@vithursan.b
@vithursan.b 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the comment that he said moments before Marc-Andre Fleury let a fluke of a goal
@SciyonGenysis
@SciyonGenysis 3 жыл бұрын
Pierre is a 100% a first class moron in every other scenario BUT not in this case He never questioned Pricer's skill but rather the fact that Montreal already had goalies in the system (Huet, Aebisher, Yann Danis and they still had Thedore to start the season) and they had bigger needs to satisfy than a goalie, which was correct (At the time) Danis never panned out and Huet and Aebisher were decent but again, there's no way they could've known that at the time, the way it looked in 2005 Montreal didn't need a goalie
@quentinbroome2778
@quentinbroome2778 3 жыл бұрын
@@SciyonGenysis David aebischer wasn't with Montreal at that time. He was traded to Montreal for Jose Theodore.
@SciyonGenysis
@SciyonGenysis 3 жыл бұрын
@@quentinbroome2778 Im aware but my point was both were in the system in 05-06 at various points but yes Price was drafted before David was with them (but still Montreal still had what looked to be 3 solid goalies at the time of drafting Price)
@robertn2951
@robertn2951 2 жыл бұрын
In 1993, while Alexandre Daigle was "making history" as the next great French Canadian, another French Canadian, eligible Martin St.Louis, went undrafted.
@MrDecelles
@MrDecelles 2 жыл бұрын
Alexandre was a great player. The problem is that he was not developed at all. He was not surrounded by veteran players.
@gixeri
@gixeri 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDecelles Exactly. Maybe there is something wrong in the teams that drafted them.
@joshw604
@joshw604 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDecelles I don't think anyone would call him a great player. I think he had enormous talent, but without good attitude and motivation, as well as perhaps a bad situation in Ottawa as you mentioned, he failed miserably. To be a great player you have to be able to perform and succeed, can't just have talent
@Chaturanger
@Chaturanger 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDecelles What? What about "force de caractère"?
@MrDecelles
@MrDecelles 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chaturanger They obviously chose wrongly in that department... flawed but good player. That kid needed parenting.
@acecxke
@acecxke 2 жыл бұрын
You guys remember when Pierre McGuire said Filip Forsberg would forever be a Capital when he was drafted, then he immediately got traded to Nashville?
@djjohnson9389
@djjohnson9389 2 жыл бұрын
You made some good points about Yakupov but let's be honest the 2012 NHL draft class was rather shit.
@oilersridersbluejays
@oilersridersbluejays 5 ай бұрын
One of the weakest drafts ever.
@francoisdupont3082
@francoisdupont3082 3 жыл бұрын
Price turned out to be an outstanding goalie, which has been horrible for Montreal.
@hehateme71
@hehateme71 3 жыл бұрын
@Liam Dooling (STUDENT) Love Kopitar
@undeadchrist
@undeadchrist 2 жыл бұрын
@@glaframb lattendresse suffers concussions
@albertvanular433
@albertvanular433 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree. Yes Price has been an outsrtanding goalie but in no way has that horrible for Montreal. Habs made it to a Stanley Cup final just last season with Price tending the net. Furthermore Habs went to Conference Finals in 2014. They lost to NYR after he was injured by Kreider and Habs also went to Conference Semi Finals in 2015. That's a lot better than most other teams have done in the last 7 or 8 years. Drafting Price has definitely NOT been horrible for Montreal.
@calebcormier11
@calebcormier11 3 жыл бұрын
The Carey price part of him throwing a puck to a fan was me like I was the fan who got the puck 😂😂😂
@mbertrand
@mbertrand 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Getzlaf was a great pick for the Ducks. He also had the luxury of playing with Corey Perry and Bobby Ryan for large parts of his career so it’s no wonder he put up a million assists. But even today, as Perry and Ryan’s career wind down, he’s still killing it.
@taybmoretb
@taybmoretb 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man those young kids brings out the kid in Getzlaf. I said it in perry last year as a duck, he's lost interest in the game and Bobby has had some.personl problems. Getz still loves the game as much as he did when he was 18. Fav duck aside from teems and paul
@MoreMallards
@MoreMallards 2 жыл бұрын
the chemistry with Rakell for a couple of seasons was also pretty phenomenal!
@daikusan55
@daikusan55 2 жыл бұрын
I've always really liked the way Getzlaf has played. Great all around game and really good play maker. Hall of fame, jersey raising career.
@jobemi2422
@jobemi2422 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing that gets forgotten about Daigle is, at the time he was deserving of the hype. Guy put up 110p in 66g as a 16/17 year old, then in his draft year 137p in 53g as a 17/18 year old. Hindsight is always 20/20 and looking back on how his career went, it’s easy to laugh at the comparisons. The issue with Daigle was he only played hockey cuz he was so naturally talented, but he was far more interested in the celebrity status that came with being an NHL player so he didn’t work on his game at all.
@judahnanas9772
@judahnanas9772 3 жыл бұрын
Simon Gamache had 143 then 184 pts in the Q as 19/20 yo... doesn't mean much!
@bentencho
@bentencho 2 жыл бұрын
@@judahnanas9772 Scoring as a 19/20 y/o playing in junior hockey doesn't mean much as you're pretty much a man among boys. Scoring a bunch as a 16/17 is exceptional.
@lordrevanz16
@lordrevanz16 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing is, if Daigle actually tried and delivered on his talent, he would have been a massive celebrity along the likes of Lemieux and Gretzky. Instead, the only thing he's famous for is being a spoiled clown that was the biggest bust in draft history.
@clubkid13
@clubkid13 2 жыл бұрын
Daigle being dressed up by the Ottawa Senators in a nurse’s outfit and a matador outfit for a hockey card campaign was one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen. As a little kid looking up to hockey players that destroyed any credibility Daigle had left
@pickford3152
@pickford3152 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but dangle actually had a couple decent years lol..yakupov was horrendous
@oximofo9
@oximofo9 2 жыл бұрын
Daige absolutely disliked hockey, said it multiple times that he got just so good at hockey he just keep going. For every Teemo Selanne and Rick Tocchet(guys playing sports they didn't like only because they hit professional levels good), you get Pat Falloon and Alexander Daige.
@connorbrechbill6516
@connorbrechbill6516 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny this video hits some excellent points but I think you missed one. In the 2013 draft, the Florida Panthers had the second overall pick. When they made that pick, Don Cherry, enthusiastic good ole Canadian boy that he is, lambasted the pick because the Panthers passed up on a North American player with their pick. He had gone on a spiel on how the Panthers could have selected the likes of Jones, Drouin or Nurse. One of those players had a couple of productive seasons before declining, one has bounced around a couple of teams and one has been a solid. But Cherry predicted that all three of those guys mentioned would be perennial franchise players while the selection for the Florida Panthers would fizzle out and return to Liiga in a few years. That pick was Aleksander Barkov. That should have been on this list I feel.
@longliverocknroll5
@longliverocknroll5 2 жыл бұрын
As an AVs fan, my list was always (in order): MacKinnon, Barkov, Jones. Barkov was like 10-15 days away from being to young for the 2013 draft and put up insane numbers as a raw 17-18 year old in Finland and took 4 minors. FOUR. As a 6’3” center, that’s incredible restraint and ability. It’s not hard to see why he’s one of the best two-way and gentlemanly players in the league every year.
@meleekunis2196
@meleekunis2196 2 жыл бұрын
The craziest part about the Flames trading the 14th pick to move down to 21st to pick Jankowski (and pick up the 42nd, which resulted in a non-NHLer) was that if they kept the 14th pick they could have drafted Tom Wilson (who went 16th), Tomas Hertl (17th), Teuvo Teravainen (18th), or Andrei FUCKING Vasilevskiy (19th). As someone who also cheers for the Flames it hurts to think about what if they had just stayed put at 14th. Oh well lol
@foggyaf5531
@foggyaf5531 2 жыл бұрын
Not a surprise Feaster and Weisbrod didn't last long after that. Made some great picks in the years since with our new scouting team. Getting a player like Mangiapane in the 6th round wasn't happening with the others at the helm. I read another depressing story about the 2011 draft and how they were looking at Kucherov but passed on him because they were planning to take Gaudreau and didn't want to nab two smaller guys.
@saltywingsandavsfan
@saltywingsandavsfan 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Seider was compared to Carlo. He hasn’t played in the nhl yet but so far he’s proving that he could be a star
@theburgundynetwork3432
@theburgundynetwork3432 3 жыл бұрын
He's pretty good in my franchise mode with the Red Wings in NHL21
@saturnotaku
@saturnotaku 3 жыл бұрын
People will always remember #1, especially when you play like #2.
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I WOULD PIN THIS But Gotta respect Espo haha
@jamesray163
@jamesray163 3 жыл бұрын
In all fairness to Pierre regarding the Price pick, he didnt say Price wouldn't pan out. He was just stated that at the time they had bigger needs to address (which they did). Taking a goalie that high with other goalies in the system already was pretty risky. Hindsight is 20-20, if one of the other goalies had panned out, we'd be having a different convo. But they didn't so yes, it was a smart pick in the end.
@VoIcanoman
@VoIcanoman 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. But in the top 10 of any draft, it behooves a team to take the best player available, regardless of their needs (there are rare exceptions to this...but BPA is a sound general policy in the top 10, and certainly in the top 5). And at that time, I do think Price (5th overall) was a slightly better player than Anze Kopitar, who was drafted 11th...and certainly better than any of the other guys drafted after him in the 1st round (in fact, I think Price has turned out to be the 2nd-best player from that ENTIRE DRAFT, only beaten by Sid himself...other notables include a few excellent goalies such as Tuukka Rask, Ben Bishop and Jonathan Quick, a few excellent d-men including Kris Letang, Anton Stralman and Keith Yandle, and some excellent forwards like Kopitar, James Neal, T.J. Oshie, Paul Stastny, Bobby Ryan, and selected LAST, with the 230th pick, Patric Hornqvist, who was the indisputable steal of the draft). When you play the odds, and one player has greater odds of being elite than another, you won't always come out on top...but most of the time you will. And if you still have those needs later on, you can always trade for them with the more valuable player you drafted as the BPA. As it turns out, the Habs didn't need to do this...instead they traded Halak away, filling a need at center (with Lars Eller, who remains the 2nd or, at minimum, 3rd-best Dane to play in the NHL, despite him never being fully appreciated by the Montreal fans). And honestly...people forget just how close they came in 2014. If Price had not been Kreider-slammed (may the slimy bastard NEVER win a Cup), the Habs would have almost certainly beaten the Rags...and 2014 was a very different year than 2012 for the Kings. They were still a great team, but in 2012, they had Quick playing out of his mind (and if they'd met the Habs in the Finals that year, there's no way Montreal wins, given their goal-scoring woes). But in 2014, Quick was not nearly as invincible (his GAA in 2012 was 1.41 with a 0.946 SV%; in 2014 those numbers were 2.58 and 0.911) - I really think Montreal would have had a decent shot at the Cup had they made the Finals. What they did accomplish that playoffs (a conference final exit) was on the strength of Price and Subban sure...but who, pray tell, was their top point-scoring forward? Lars Eller, that's who, with 13 points in 17 playoff games (he had 5 goals, tied for 2nd on the team with Pacioretty and Vanek; Rene Bourque had 8 goals for 1st). So sure, Montreal did have a certain degree of luck to see Price reach his potential; but it takes more than luck to give your team a shot...it takes making the right moves at the right time, and both Gauthier and Bergevin did a really good job in this area, following the cinderella run of 2010.
@rhaspados666
@rhaspados666 3 жыл бұрын
They had halak too
@barrystewart5946
@barrystewart5946 3 жыл бұрын
The wisdom of McGuire will help the Sens relocate.
@D34dlyAssassin9
@D34dlyAssassin9 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not the fact none of the others panned out. It’s that carry turned out to be an absolute stub
@philmedeiros2497
@philmedeiros2497 3 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like you wouldn't have made this comment if Pierre wasn't part of the Send front office lmao smells of copium
@empire0
@empire0 3 жыл бұрын
Daigle was out of the NHL in 2006, the same year Pronger helped get the Oilers to the finals. Interesting coincidence right there.
@quentinbroome2778
@quentinbroome2778 3 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if Ottawa drafted Pronger AND had Chara on defense? The small guy in that pairing is 6 foot 6!
@nonohockey
@nonohockey 3 жыл бұрын
Idgt u are doing an amzing job on these storys/videos. BTW im surpriesd that u dont have 50k subs. U deserve 50k subs.
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Charlie! I appreciate it! 50K has a nice ring to it ;)
@chizorama
@chizorama 3 жыл бұрын
@@idontgivetkachuk You've come a long way & keep getting better. Just keep doing what you do do & you'll get there & beyond.
@N_manMETA11
@N_manMETA11 3 жыл бұрын
Pierre was right about one thing: the Habs did have bigger needs than a goaltender at the time. We can look back and say "this was a bad pick because this, this and this happened" but they didn't know, nobody knew Price was gonna be a shutdown guy and likely a future hall of famer. And especially the stigma around taking goalies high, it's not a "good thing" to take a goalie top 10 with such drastic turnover, which certainly added to that; paper thin teams+young goalies rarely adds up. I love to hate Pierre McGuire as much as anyone, but you can't really blame him for what he said; in context, not only did it make sense, but it was objectively correct. Montréal was center-weak.
@carletonrutherford1799
@carletonrutherford1799 2 жыл бұрын
And that's exactly why you take the best player available, and not just draft by position. A lesson learned by so many teams in so many fail drafts.
@Braktooth
@Braktooth 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can. Price was obviously gold; I knew it and don't have nearly the resources of McGuire. I was thrilled when they drafted him.
@renlysotherlover294
@renlysotherlover294 2 жыл бұрын
@@Braktooth you’re probably thrilled with lots of picks and then pat yourself on the back when they end up being good and forget about all the ones you were wrong about
@Braktooth
@Braktooth 2 жыл бұрын
@@renlysotherlover294 Love the assumptions here. But putting those aside, I don't get paid to make predictions. He does and that one was clearly terrible.
@kr1me2000
@kr1me2000 2 жыл бұрын
Price is the reason Montreal is such a bad team, imagine if they had Fleury.... They would EASILY make playoff every year.
@chrispswann6825
@chrispswann6825 3 жыл бұрын
Griffin Reinhart who was drafted 4th overall in 2012 was compared to Shea Weber lol!
@MarquisdeSuave
@MarquisdeSuave 2 жыл бұрын
Daigle was really that great coming out of the QMJHL. Fast as hell, great stick with a great toolbox of offensive moves. The 93 draft was pretty loaded up top and I dont think there was a scout out there who didnt have Daigle as the #1 overall choice. Ottawa really screwed up his development though as they already had a very good center in Yashin. Yashin came in more ready for the NHL and quickly took over the #1 line in Ottawa. The Sens had no depth and Daigle was forced to play on a line with a bunch of journeymen which allowed teams to just key on him and knock him around. This hampered his growth. Daigle actually looked fantastic when he played on the same line as Yashin where he played as a RW. Yashin who was more of a goal scorer than a playmaker meshed well with Daigle on the PP as this gave Daigle the space to make things happen on offense. This was the perfect situation for both players and the Sens SHOULD have worked the 2 players together on the 1st line. That didnt happen and Daigle just got hammered on the 2nd line which led to some injuries which led to lower production which led to less time on the ice. It was a vicious circle for Daigle and it really took a toll on his confidence as well as his athletic ability and overall game.
@brandonhenn5889
@brandonhenn5889 Жыл бұрын
Crosby/Malkin, mcdavid/draisitle two off the top of my head but rarely are first lines stacked with all the talent especially in that era. A lot of people managed. Gotta quit making excuses for him, he just didn’t work or want it enough. Great theory tho.
@theconnorjones
@theconnorjones 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest steal... 1998 Draft, Round 6, Pavel Datsyuk
@ibleedorangeforever7039
@ibleedorangeforever7039 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact the Flyers had all of the top 3 in the 93 draft on their team, at different times
@ibleedorangeforever7039
@ibleedorangeforever7039 3 жыл бұрын
In doing more research they had 8 of the first 21 draft picks from the 1990 draft on their team at one point in time.
@thejonath
@thejonath 2 жыл бұрын
Vrana is soooo underrated though. He pulls off 50 pts season with absolutely horrendous deployment, and I was hopeful to see him become a scoring maching in Detroit but with his injury and Raymond playing so well, Vrana is gonna be on the 2nd line and the drop off from L1 to L2 in Detroit is steep.
@darrencole97
@darrencole97 Жыл бұрын
I still like that Matt Barzal is the 5th best player from his draft picked 15th by the New York Islanders.
@anowhereguy2521
@anowhereguy2521 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not but many fans didn't have a lot of faith in Price either, at least not for a while. A lot of them wanted him to be traded and have the Canadiens keep Jaroslav Halak as their number one goalie. Halak did have a lot of success for some time and had better numbers than Price at first, making people think that he was the one with the most potential. Thankfully the team did the right thing and it was Halak that got traded in the end. That said Halak had a pretty good career for a guy that was drafted 271th, and he's still in the league to this day. But Price was definitely the better choice that's for sure.
@DirkStarlight
@DirkStarlight 3 жыл бұрын
Bro he literally halaked to the third round. He took out ovis caps and crosbys pens. It was a weird couple years where bad tenders did things.
@jogendron6320
@jogendron6320 3 жыл бұрын
What did you win with Price?
@amazingmonkey886
@amazingmonkey886 3 жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly. I remember that choice very well. In hindsight it was choosing between a hall of fame superstar vs a very very good goaltender. Neither choice was horrible but of course the Canadians for once chose correctly. What was a shame was that he was traded only for Lars Ellers and Ian Schultz. He was worth more than that.
@daveyboy_
@daveyboy_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@jogendron6320 the Hart the Vezina , the Jennings and the first and only ( for an east team ) The Campbell Cup.
@969kurt
@969kurt 3 жыл бұрын
271th lol
@alyours2889
@alyours2889 3 жыл бұрын
Pronger would have made a difference in Ottawa's history!
@camh9800
@camh9800 3 жыл бұрын
Not going to argue that Vrana is on the same level as Pasta but, top line vs middle 6 minutes does make a difference in point totals.
@michaelkeller5927
@michaelkeller5927 3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos my dude. Love that you focus on the history I grew up watching in the 80s and 90s.
@MH-ie8dy
@MH-ie8dy 3 жыл бұрын
I meet Alexandre Daigle in Buffalo, NY way back in 1994. The Senators, I think, expected too much from him.
@richardlavoie6833
@richardlavoie6833 2 жыл бұрын
Best comparaison for Yakupov was made by Benoit Brunet before the draft,..........He said, he remind me Brent Gilchrist!!!!! Right on!!!!
@Scheif
@Scheif 2 жыл бұрын
1:33 I was at that game in March 2015, yikes that game was close! Sadly we lost in a shootout
@shalizzle793
@shalizzle793 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people needed this explained… the “player comparisons” doesn’t mean “he’s going to be as good as this player” It’s their play style. You can say a beer leaguer plays like Alex Ovechkin if he takes clappers from the dot…
@KoldLokk
@KoldLokk 3 жыл бұрын
Where is Patrick Stefan lmao
@The__Cack
@The__Cack 3 жыл бұрын
"But Button's almost never right...sooo...🤷‍♂️" 😂 Most accurate quote in a video filled with accurate quotes.
@jimklein5491
@jimklein5491 3 жыл бұрын
McGuire thinks he was so damned smart by listing off a half dozen francophone players because "le Canadiens, amirite."
@TeamOT
@TeamOT 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it is Pierre McGuire.
@goleafsgo8496
@goleafsgo8496 3 жыл бұрын
Always thought Craig Button is the Number 1 buffoon on hockey television. Pierre McGuire is for sure the Number 1B, and it may be even closer.
@lessthanthreemetal
@lessthanthreemetal Жыл бұрын
Daigle pissed away talents that 99.99% of hockey players could only dream of. How arrogant do you have to be to make the NHL and then not care about it
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
Also I said Valeri Kharlamovs name using a Russian Documentary as my source so..
@darrellmackinnon1667
@darrellmackinnon1667 3 жыл бұрын
*Another great video, nice job, man.*
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Derrell!!
@canuck_gamer3359
@canuck_gamer3359 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Montreal drafted Price and I'm man enough to admit I didn't like that pick either. But what's worse is that I wanted them to draft Gilbert Brule lol. I thought a French Canadian player who could score would be an awesome pick for them and I also didn't see the need for Montreal to bring in a new goalie because that hadn't been an issue. Anyway, obviously thank God they did pick him and it's too bad they couldn't put a half decent team in front of him to make a championship run (No, I'm not counting 20-21).
@MisterGreenw00d
@MisterGreenw00d 2 жыл бұрын
Gilbert Brule isn't even french canadian haha
@nathanmackinnon7405
@nathanmackinnon7405 2 жыл бұрын
well to be fair, vrana isn’t on a line with 2 future HoFers so you can’t really say for certain whether pastrnak is really the better player
@VictorValiant24
@VictorValiant24 2 жыл бұрын
This was gonna be my comment as well. Not to mention, JV was a 3rd liner with Washington before being dealt to the Wings @ the deadline, then went on a TEAR to finish the year on the first line in Detroit. He has been injured all season, so we've not yet seen what kind of numbers he can put up with top 6 minutes and a much improved Red Wings team... Pastrnak is amazing, don't get me wrong, but I agree that the Vrana comparison is uneven or premature at best. Let's see what happens with a full season on a line with Larkin and Raymond! #LGRW
@TheHat--Man
@TheHat--Man 2 жыл бұрын
Pierre was right about price… 6 goals in 20 shot, ouch
@kalaupun
@kalaupun 2 жыл бұрын
Price has had an amazing career and brought mediocre Habs teams places they had no business being. That doesn't mean a different pick might not have helped the team more. Look at the teams that have won Cups, tell me how many tie up mega-superstar type contracts in their goalies? The cap means this doesn't work, it's not a knock on Price. In a way he's too good.
@bwalker77
@bwalker77 2 жыл бұрын
The only way I can think of where he might have genuinely hurt the team is when, as you said, he made a mediocre team look much better than it was. The Habs had many years where neither Price, Subban nor Pacioretty had a big contract and they could easily have made a big push toward winning then. Instead, management preferred treading water with the thinking that "with Price in net, anything was possible". That was dumb thinking and is the real reason why Price never won a cup and Andrei Vasilevskiy did.
@kalaupun
@kalaupun 2 жыл бұрын
@@bwalker77 those years were so full of promise and it was really wasted
@goleafsgo8496
@goleafsgo8496 3 жыл бұрын
You could and should do a "Craig Button" screwed up prediction video of its own.
@chrisegg7936
@chrisegg7936 2 жыл бұрын
i remember watching the Yakupov draft (and Maguire lambasting Edmonton for not taking Ryan Murray) but I totally missed the Kharlamov comparison. Truly unhinged!
@sandwedge
@sandwedge 3 жыл бұрын
what pierre should have said was "Price is a big guy with a big stick, guy's a monster who plays hard, he played for the Muskoka Lab Rats and loves eating his apple jacks with peaches on top", you know stick to the classics
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
" Ya know sometimes you got a big stick yourself there. *oddly stares*"
@tmlms1313
@tmlms1313 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a draft day prediction but along those lines check out some of the Phil Kessel hype in 2004-05.... Quote from Pierre at the 2005-06 World Juniors. "If he was born 3 weeks earlier he would have been eligible for the 2005 draft and the only question would be Phil Kessel or Sidney Crosby" - ironically 10 years later Pittsburgh would have both
@DurtGurty
@DurtGurty 3 жыл бұрын
Keep this series going, very interesting
@tonytunes2120
@tonytunes2120 2 жыл бұрын
Marchand has been the best all round player for the Bruins for awhile now.
@andrewlemon4094
@andrewlemon4094 2 жыл бұрын
Bobby Mac doesn’t give his opinion on a player or their potential. He speaks to usually a handful of team scouts or front office executives and conveyed those opinions.
@SpitefulGanon
@SpitefulGanon 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Nail might've been a big star in the league if he didnt get picked by Edmonton - where draft picks go to die
@969kurt
@969kurt 3 жыл бұрын
Ya just imagine what Leon and Connor could’ve become
@mvd4436
@mvd4436 2 жыл бұрын
Yup I lived in Edmonton when he came. Nail was one of the more behaved Oilers. I never seen him out getting drunk. Seen Hall and RNH pissed out of their mind at 3am a few times
@matthewnolan2042
@matthewnolan2042 3 жыл бұрын
If you could make this a series, that would be great.
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
It was hard finding these six haha! But I’ll see what I can do!
@gregmarkiewicz601
@gregmarkiewicz601 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot about Hugh Jessiman aka Huge Specimen
@wiseguy3675
@wiseguy3675 2 жыл бұрын
Pierre is a far better color man than he is a hockey executive.
@poopcrust3400
@poopcrust3400 3 жыл бұрын
“Buttons almost never right” 🤣🤣 underrated channel 👍🏼
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man 😂😂
@pajamatime5750
@pajamatime5750 2 жыл бұрын
So true. Buttons an idiot
@dereklasker5350
@dereklasker5350 3 жыл бұрын
Kharlamov could start the idea for a video of best players to never play in the nhl Also Brayden point is a bigger steal than pasta imo, they’re about as good as each other and point went so much later
@chizorama
@chizorama 3 жыл бұрын
Would love him to fo a Khalamov vid, along with some of the old Soviet players. They may have played for the evil empire, but they were amazing to watch.
@johngallagher72
@johngallagher72 2 жыл бұрын
Pierre Maguire told us in Toronto Luke Schenn would be the next Scott Stevens
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 2 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@johngallagher72
@johngallagher72 2 жыл бұрын
@@idontgivetkachuk he was a bit off in that assessment ...lol
@frijolero6048
@frijolero6048 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea Channing Tatum was drafted by the habs.
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@thumpyloudfoot864
@thumpyloudfoot864 2 жыл бұрын
It's safe to say if a prospect has played for the Peterborough Petes in the OHL, you probably should draft him... Wayne Gretzky Bob Gainey Tie Domi Chris Pronger Larry Murphy Steve Yzerman Eric Staal Jordan Staal Zach Bogosian Mike Ricci Steve Larmer To name a few, and not to mention the 2 greatest coaches in history coached the Petes...
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 2 жыл бұрын
Have the Petes ever had a guy with the last name Pete 👀
@thumpyloudfoot864
@thumpyloudfoot864 2 жыл бұрын
@@idontgivetkachuk there was a Steve Peters... He was picked second overall, one spot ahead of Wayne Gretzky in the 1977 Ontario Major Junior Hockey League draft of 16-year-olds....
@DarrenHowseMusic
@DarrenHowseMusic 3 жыл бұрын
In Vrana's defense, he was only averaging 11-12 minutes a game with the Caps, and maxed out with an average of 15 minutes a game in his 20-21 season. Not saying he's better than Pastrnak, but he was certainly given much less opportunity in a bottom-six role. Now that he's going to be a top-line/top 6 player he could very well pop off. Great stuff, dude!
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darren!
@RRaquello
@RRaquello 2 жыл бұрын
Also a Flames fan, I never blamed Feaster for making the pick on Jankowski. It was a very weak draft (same draft as Yakupov), it was late in the first round, so he took a flyer on a talented guy with potential, but who was obviously a project. Jankowski didn't even play Junior A hockey (I think he was a high school player). Jankowski teased us for a while, but never panned out. Where Feaster looks foolish was that prediction. He could have just said, "We like Mark's talent and he's going to the NCAA and we think when he's ready he's going to be a great player for us." Everyone would have understood that Feaster meant, "Well, we're hoping for the best but not really expecting much," which is the best you can do in a bad draft year.
@ms.felonystrutter2472
@ms.felonystrutter2472 2 жыл бұрын
If Pierre makes a mistake about a young prospect than that is very rare. There is not one person in North America who knows more about young prospects in the NHL for the past 30 years than Pierre. If I was an NHL owner I would hire two people and go from there: Pierre McGuire and Martin Brodeur. I am still upset we DID NOT draft Yaroslav Askarov and two rounds later we draft Nico Dawes. I saw Nico play at the WJC and my Russia Red Machine DESTROYED him. All this being said, Nico helped put the Devils AHL team Utica as the best team in the AHL currently and is now becoming one of the very best young goalies in the NHL.HIs development has been amazing. Craig Button had a bad prediciton on Zachary FUcale.
@G.R.V-v4g
@G.R.V-v4g 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to really go back for a big draft bust, Doug Wickenheiser in 1980. No. 1 draft pick overall picked up by the Canadiens.
@blakecuza7205
@blakecuza7205 2 жыл бұрын
McGuire also said ovechkin will never be tough enough to play in the NHL when he was drafted
@patodonnell3328
@patodonnell3328 2 жыл бұрын
Alexander was a great junior player. He just couldn’t make the step up, which was amazing considering what he did before the nhl.
@meanjean3023
@meanjean3023 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video - even after you said you were a flames fan - Go Oil! 😂😂😂😂
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sm man haha!!
@SnowGabe
@SnowGabe Жыл бұрын
Well this year is exactly 10 years and we'll finally get to see Jay Feaster's Mark Jankowski prediction and Jankowski seemed to have started the year tearing it up in AHL and is now with the Predators.
@pavelkochanov4735
@pavelkochanov4735 3 жыл бұрын
Larionov was Yakupov's agent at that time so...
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 жыл бұрын
Yes so it's understandable why he would hype him up. But again.. Horrible reach lol
@nolankuffner3573
@nolankuffner3573 Жыл бұрын
Price is a hot take..? They put a TON of resources into their goalies. If you spent 40k refreshing a classic car and then had to re-mortgage your house to buy a new, more reliable vehicle, I'd question that. That's what Price was AT THE TIME. Did Price win them a Cup? No? Weird. I guess making the playoffs really is success in Canada 😉 Oh, and Getzlaf wasn't a top guy on his own. He was a good part of a great line. It's funny, you talk about Getzlaf being such an underrated success (nope, just a very deep draft) while barely mentioning how good his teammates were, but fail to mention how Daigle had almost zero support. If the Arizona Coyotes were the team to get Bedard, guarantee someone would be shitting on him. Despite being the only offensive player worth a damn. Note how Chicago got players to play with Bedard, and are making sure he's well supported. Kinda the other reason Yakupov didn't work: the Oilers kept trying to build a bunch of young guys together, without any real, good veteran presence to help out. Remember how many years it took for McDavid and co. to actually do anything worth anything, and they still haven't won so much as a Conference Finals game in over half a decade of trying.
@JSeriously
@JSeriously 2 жыл бұрын
I love Pasta, but Marchand is the best player on the Bruins roster. ❤️
@ghouston6950
@ghouston6950 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that Daigle was compared to Mario Lemieux and even then people were laughing at that lol
@lordvasileLive
@lordvasileLive 2 жыл бұрын
Even now the hockey analysts need to retire
@KappyKavanagh
@KappyKavanagh 2 жыл бұрын
Flames fans remember the quote.
@cvdubya5774
@cvdubya5774 2 жыл бұрын
Lafreniere will end up on this list in 5 years too. Then you have guys drafted in the 5th round like Kaprizov that will be superstars in the NHL
@ericscottstevens
@ericscottstevens 2 жыл бұрын
Laffy is an assist first forward. Not an elite skater type either. So far opponents can get a lock on him and make his life miserable out in space. Most of his goals in the Q are up close point blank efforts. He has to perfect his game now or he will be scoring like 15 goals per year. I suppose he can rebound with some quality off season work, but it shows he was not ready for 1st line NHL with the Rangers. Right now Lucas Raymond has played 56 less games and only trails Laffy by 2 career points.
@cvdubya5774
@cvdubya5774 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericscottstevens a different club/coach would help him alot
@ericscottstevens
@ericscottstevens 2 жыл бұрын
@@cvdubya5774 Yes the NYR were not in a position to develop him properly. But they had to sign him and get him aboard or alienate him from the start. So they were in a catch 22 with that lottery win. They will hold onto him for awhile I suppose to deter the critics. Unless Laffy wants out of NY then it will be a different scenario. So far I would easily take Lucas over Alexis. Totally different dynamic and approach with the two LW's. Lucas also plays a better 200ft game.
@Chris-kk6cw
@Chris-kk6cw 2 жыл бұрын
Cap
@miguelh4750
@miguelh4750 3 жыл бұрын
6:14 Oh Pierre (talking like Captain Kirk from Star Trek)
@timmartineau243
@timmartineau243 2 жыл бұрын
Doug Wickenheiser turned out pretty bad.
@troyandderson7432
@troyandderson7432 2 жыл бұрын
Flames had some rough drafts in the late 2000’s 😆😆
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly 😔😂
@richardlavoie6833
@richardlavoie6833 2 жыл бұрын
Daigle was practice very hard but it was at the casino!!!!
@user-ly8nf4ir2d
@user-ly8nf4ir2d 2 жыл бұрын
Evender Kane loves the casino! LOL
@jamesm895
@jamesm895 3 жыл бұрын
Alexandere Daigle. The absolute creme de la creme of draft busts.
@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665
@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665 3 жыл бұрын
The worst one in history goes back a little further…Montreal picking Doug Wickenheisor over Denis Savard saying Savard was too small. The same BS continues to this day. Most of the best players today are 6’ or less and under 200lbs. They say todays’ game is too fast. Wanna slow it down? Put the red line back in the game! Doesn’t matter then how tall you are. Too fast my azz!
@daveyboy_
@daveyboy_ 3 жыл бұрын
Wick was rated higher then anyone in that draft .
@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665
@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665 2 жыл бұрын
@@daveyboy_ yes he was. He was projected #1 and probably any team would have selected him #1. He was also thought to be the next superstar…and may have been had Montreal handled him properly.
@wiseguy3675
@wiseguy3675 2 жыл бұрын
Prime Savard would have been amazing, but part of me wishes they had picked Paul Coffey instead.
@tmlms1313
@tmlms1313 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about busts is they go to bad teams and often those teams are bad because of more than just players themselves.....it's player development, look at Buffalo in this era last 5 top 10 picks (start 4 years ago to be fair). Reinhart, A. Nylander, Mittelstadt, Eichel, Ristolainen like come on 5 in a row can't be a fluke. Just look around the corner, Leafs last 5 top 10 picks, Matthews, Marner, W. Nylander, Reilly, Kadri. It can't be luck, Leafs were just as bad on the ice
@connorbrechbill6516
@connorbrechbill6516 2 жыл бұрын
Reinhart has been very good for us. He’s been an excellent top 6 guy and has done what we’ve expected him to do.
@tmlms1313
@tmlms1313 2 жыл бұрын
​@@connorbrechbill6516 For a #2 overall pick he's a bust.
@connorbrechbill6516
@connorbrechbill6516 2 жыл бұрын
@@tmlms1313 I mean he’s a top 6 guy who consistently scores 20-25 goals a season and puts up 50-60 points a season. I wouldn’t call that a bust. Yes, he probably doesn’t go second overall in that draft if it’s redone, but he’s a good top 6 player and would be picked up real quick if the Panthers were to let him go for whatever reason. Guys like Nail Yakupov are the true definition of a bust. In no world should a 1OA pick ever be out of the league in a handful of years. That’s a bust. But a top 6 player that puts up 50-60 points a year is not a bust. Not everyone is going to put up numbers like McDavid, Draisaitl, Huberdeau and Matthews.
@tmlms1313
@tmlms1313 2 жыл бұрын
@@connorbrechbill6516 Since you are in denial I will break it down for you. I am talking exclusively about #2 overall picks so don't bring in players who went in other spots. There are 15 active forwards who were drafted at #2 overall. Sam is 11th among those 15 in points per game. The players he is ahead of are JVR, Jordan Staal, Kaapo Kakko, Nolan Patrick. Maybe the traditional definition of bust is too strong, but that is certainly a disappointment and Buffalo in this era has a bad habit of drafting disappointments.
@SimbolicProductions
@SimbolicProductions 9 ай бұрын
I still think Yakupov will make a comeback to the NHL
@viviandarkbloom100
@viviandarkbloom100 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things is to DVR the NHL and NFL Drafts and go back and to listen to all of the NONSENSE the talking heads spout. It's comic.
3 жыл бұрын
Ha! I have never understood the popularity of Buttons or Pierre.
@exturkconner
@exturkconner 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know that I agree that the Price comment was wrong. I think Montreal would have been better off not taking him. Guys a head case who couldn't stand quality net minders pressuring him. Made Montreal trade Huet when Huet was better. Made them trade Halak when Halak was better. Sure years and years later Price wins an MVP but how much better would they have been if they didn't make those moves at that time? I think noteably better. And then him being the highest paid goalie in the league for several years and his regular season play having fallen into the toilet certainly doesn't help the franchise.
@markbatcho60
@markbatcho60 2 жыл бұрын
He defends like Lidström, skates like Karlsson, Ray Ferraro (TSN) 2017....Rasmus Dhahlin ....lol
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 2 жыл бұрын
Ö
@f-twelve7155
@f-twelve7155 3 жыл бұрын
Daigle was too hyped up, it’s sad cause he did have a decent career, maybe not worth the first overall but definitely a top 10 pick talent regardless
@WhatAboutThemApples
@WhatAboutThemApples 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Jankowski should have been on this list. From my memory he was rated in the second round but there was a few teams that thought he was worth a first.
@salianni16
@salianni16 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the narrator. Jankowski is a terrible player and I'm glad he's not on my favorite team --- but it almost happened. When the Leafs traded Nazem Kadri to Colorado for Alex Kerfoot and Tyson Barrie, it was later revealed that he was close to being traded to Calgary instead for T J Brodie and Mark Jankowski. They later got rid of Barrie and acquired Brodie but what if the original deal had gone through and Jankowski had arrived as well? My mind shudders at the very thought!
@UndertaleFan424
@UndertaleFan424 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Jankowski now plays for Buffalo.
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 2 жыл бұрын
💀💀
@thehawk05
@thehawk05 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with Pierre’s take on the Price pick because he’s not slagging Price at all. The Habs did have more pressing needs at the time and still do to this day…….weak at centre. You can have the best goalie in the world and they can carry you far when they get hot but it’s almost impossible to win when you don’t have strength at the centre position and the Habs haven’t had it for years. Look how bad they are this season after losing Danault. Not that he wracked up a lot of points but he was excellent at winning face offs and could shut down the other teams top lines. They don’t have anybody who can do that and it’s next to impossible to trade for centremen like that as nobody wants to give them up.
@christophergaumond1901
@christophergaumond1901 2 жыл бұрын
So they would have take Brulé, so instead of only weak at center, they would be weak at center AND in net.
@zwon6495
@zwon6495 3 жыл бұрын
Pasta, Biggest steal at No.15. Cole Caufield Picked at No.15
@timothyflanigan1777
@timothyflanigan1777 2 жыл бұрын
pastrnak was picked number 25 in his draft class.
@teamsaunz
@teamsaunz 2 жыл бұрын
Umm, as a Sens fan, the Sens did NOT tank to get Daigle…they just sucked so bad that people think they tanked but they were just THAT bad…horrible…and pathetic losing 7-1 most nights.
@davidboudreault5931
@davidboudreault5931 2 жыл бұрын
you should watch the interview of Daigle before saying anything lol he didn't love play hockey so he never put any effort... and scoring goal was easy for him...
@Seraph89_
@Seraph89_ 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I can tell a player will be great just by hearing their name. David Pastrnak was no surprise for me.
@TheLsp2011
@TheLsp2011 Жыл бұрын
“One of the greatest players to wear a Ducks sweater” Nah, more like one of the greatest players PERIOD.
@patodonnell3328
@patodonnell3328 2 жыл бұрын
If McGuire says anything to do with hockey, you can bet it’s a bad take.
@JBatesProductions
@JBatesProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude, it's impossible to predict how a lot of these players would turn out. I remember being really high on Pavel Brendl, thinking he might be a lot like an Alexander Mogilny type. I don't think he played more than 100 games in the NHL and was a total bust. I absolutely love the Daigle quote though - he set up himself up for complete failure. It didn't help that Ottawa treated him like a superstar in his first year when there were other budding stars there such as Yashin.
@northernpike7668
@northernpike7668 Жыл бұрын
Did montreal Win any cups with Price? Nope. Price would probably have a few rings if he was drafted or traded to a team with proper management. With that said, any habs fan that thinks the covid cup is worth any bragging rights, well your worse than a bolts fan arnt you?
@ctsugusergroup1397
@ctsugusergroup1397 3 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is 20/20, right?
@gabriellaroche652
@gabriellaroche652 2 жыл бұрын
Louis Leblanc could be in this video
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