The Worst Reality Show of All Time

I highly recommend this show.
Opposite Worlds drinking game rules:
Injury - / jennynicholson
Luke Tipple ominously says “so be it” - / jennyenicholson
Verbal complaint about the cold - / spider_jewel
Contestant forced to climb into freezing water - / spiderjewel
Losing the twitter popularity poll results in a punishment that is dangerous to the contestant’s health - / jennynicholsonvids
The video title is a pun. Did you get it

[@Taskmaster1118]

Steve from OW here. The thirty minutes I spent watching this were ten times more enjoyable than being on the actual show, and everything you said was spot on. My first experience on the show was that crucifixion torture challenge. It took ages for them to set that up, and they stuck Mercy and I in a van for about two hours while we waited - they refused to let us go to the bathroom and spoil our big entrance, so I got to sit right next to her as she was forced to squat and pee into a water bottle. We eventually get to go on set and hear the rules of our first big competition, and like you said, the point of the tomatoes in it was supposed to be to distract the people untying their teammates. Luke claimed the tomatoes were rotten and were thus supposed to be soft and painless, but due to the extreme cold, they all froze - Luke accidentally dropped one and when Frank saw the tomato literally bounce back up, he realized how hard they were and immediately signed up to be the person throwing them. Because he was also a MINOR LEAGUE PITCHER growing up. So yeah, tomato fast balls, being launched at my face. Good times. After spending most of my first day on OW in the emergency room getting stitches on my face (yes the scar is still there), I knew the producers had no idea what they were doing. I auditioned bc I’ve been a lifelong big brother and survivor fan but this was nothing like that or any other logical reality show. They went out of their way to edit all strategy out of the show (there was actually a diary room we went into to talk about our gameplay, alliances etc which never even made it onto the show), the competitions were rigged for Frank, the Twitter popularity index was messed up bc several contestants families paid for thousands of spam bot accounts which altered the results, half of us got hurt and received no compensation or actual care for our injuries... but the producers somehow actually proved to be more intelligent than the actual competitors. Epoch had the chance to just outright vote Frank out of the game bc no one would beat him in a comp, but they chose to vote me out instead. Why they added a twist out of nowhere about someone being voted out when everyone else was eliminated because they lost a competition, I’ll never understand... but half of the shows twists were created on the fly. Jeffry’s entire game was based on an alliance with JR which did virtually nothing for him and which every single one of us knew about. No one on that damn show seemed to actually think about winning, and that combined with Luke Tipples awkwardness and the producers lack of a clue made for one of the most hilariously horrible shows in television history. And believe me, it was as bad to be a part of as it was to watch. Thanks for the walk down memory lane, gotta share this with the friends who made the mistake of watching OW for me! On and added fun fact, Frank spent a bulk of his winnings buying a publicist and a website and Beast Mode merchandise because he thought the show was super popular and would be his big break. Gotta love him.

[@devinholmgren7986]

Steve D I want to believe

[@JennyNicholson]

Oh my god

[@JennyNicholson]

Ok I was thinking about the vote-out all morning and how it didn't make sense, and decided that the most reasonable explanation was that it was added in to compensate for the loss of Charles. With Charles gone they were down one additional player. This also made an odd-numbered group of contestants. The show was paced for a certain number of eliminations before the finale, and I have to assume there was going to be an additional team elimination challenge, taking out two players at once. With Charles gone, they were one player short for that. But they wouldn't have time or presumably money to add a whole new single-elimination challenge. They had an extra "floating" contestant with no convenient way to remove them from the game. Throwing in an in-team vote was the laziest way to take care of that. Basically Charles' injury had a butterfly effect that ruined the whole competition. The vote aspect was good reality tv drama but was nothing like the rest of the competition and was another thing that ruined the illusion of fairness in the game.

[@MultiZelda13]

Steve D but an actually insane reality show pitch is in here. Contestants sign up to a show where the producers have absolutely no clue what's going on. Like the whole thing is improvised by design. If they sold it like that I would watch BECAUSE it would be such a shit show. In this case though the producers are just as much a part of the show.

[@UncleMarco]

This is phenomenal

[@Melicioel7]

"How did you get that scar?" "I was tormatoed in the face by a minotaur"

[@allycat7105]

This comment Im dying

[@ashgeb]

OMG tormatoed made me snort so hard I thought I was going to choke!

[@pppoopoo4880]

Lol, tormadoes. Reminds me of The Sculptor’s Clayground.

[@nothinghappens9811]

If that story doesn't get you attention at a party, what on earth will?

[@FromTheFens219]

My eyes, the goggles do nothing!

[@reeceball]

“You have been eliminated, and you have to leave right now.” “Thank you.”

[@mattcelder]

Comrade 269 "Good luck, but you've been eliminated." Really makes ya think

[@CrossKnights]

I'm surprised she didn't say "Thank God!" and start weeping.

[@reeceball]

I JUST REALIZED: Given the reactions everyone has to leaving and the show is called Opposite Worlds, the plot twist is that the whole point of the show is to leave. So the first person to be eliminated is the actual winner. In which case, the episodes would’ve been better shown in reverse order; the first episode showing Frank as the last to be eliminated, making him the ultimate loser.

[@reignx2167]

Comrade 269 Damn maybe you’re right! Actually you ARE right 😂

[@Stuurminator]

At least one person in those conversations comes off as genuine.

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

Way I could imagine this concept working-- if team Epoch was all HARDCORE survivalist types. Like the folks who go backpacking over mountain ranges for funsies, and team Chronos was all folks working in tech with engineering degrees and sedentary occupations. And then, have challenges designed to have a 'smart' method AND a 'brute force' method. Keep the split house, but make the Epoch side more like a cabin in the woods type thang, with food supplies being wild game meats, fruits, mushrooms, and roots that might be foraged that all require preperation, and Chronos side being all convenience food-- some of it on the healthy side but with all the modern junk available in vast supply, with no kitchen supplies besides a microwave. Oh right, and have someone who actually cares set up safey measures for the challenges.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

I like this. Actually, I love it. Also, as I think about it, the difference in mindset between survivalists and techie/gamer types would go much deeper than "force vs strategy." In a survival situation, risks are not rewarded. You're taught the correct way to pass a knife, to minimize the risk of injury. You're taught to never break sticks with your foot -- you can make do with an injured hand, but it's really hard to get around with an injured foot. Staying alive is good enough, and one slip-up might take even that away from you. Techie logic seems to run the opposite way. Once there are enough safety nets, there's a lot less need for caution, and a lot more competition from aggressively creative people. You're rewarded for taking risks, and punished for letting opportunities slip by you. So maybe, on some level, the real difference being tested here is something like "orderliness vs creativity" or "caution vs aggression" -- which could be a really, really interesting dynamic to see played out in different situations. Way cooler than whatever these yahoos were doing.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

@@eyesofthecervino3366 Me: Mom, I want to watch the show LoorTheDArkElf and Eyes of the Cervino came up with. Mom: We have "Opposite Worlds" at home.

[@JessChii]

This would have actually made for a good show

[@becky3446]

that would actually give the contestants a reason to choose epoch lol

[@Kotsu-ChanRoss]

Honestly this is great. I always loved the concept of the split houses but the execution of the reality show just wasn't fair. I think this could work

[@dougthemoleman]

Imagine being a vet, seeing actual combat and coming home unscathed only to break your tibia on a stupid game show.

[@wingsofhope2]

I like to imagine that Charles probably told everyone for years that being on this show was worse than his deployments.

[@davidpeters6743]

The most common way for people to get injured when I was in the Marines was doing sports for PT. (Or Crossfit, but that's a different story)

[@bigbearkat2010]

@@wingsofhope2 I remember there was a Modern Family once and the grandpa was thinking back to when he and his son were building something with power tools and he said "That was my Vietnam, and I was in Vietnam"

[@psps6623]

OoOoOoO, Ok, the other type of "Vet". Now your comment makes sense.

[@DaLatinKnight]

​@@psps6623 "I'm a seasoned vet, I've dealt with many angry goldendoodles."

[@lship69]

"Good luck to you Angela, but you are eliminated." "Thanks."

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

Yeah,, doesn't that mean she no longer needs the luck. I think at that point he should be saying, "Congratulations Angela, you have been eliminated." Turns to the others. "And the best of luck to all of you." "May the force be with you. You will be in our prayers."

[@madsli]

"You too."

[@derpythedaedra4194]

good luck reintegrating back into society

[@charlescole1766]

_FREEDOM!!!_

[@DasKame]

at least she survived

[@dansyourjor5813]

This is the type of show where you'd vote to eliminate the person you like the best to avoid seeing them suffer.

[@thomasjenkins7506]

the last person left is the one that no one liked, and their prize is staying alone on the island for another week.

[@foxtrotalphaone]

@@thomasjenkins7506 And there make be snakes in the island.

[@Johninadelaide2022]

Only you eliminate them for realz.... "Liability hehe"

[@KupKate215]

This is my thought. Sounds like Charles breaking his leg was a mercy move in reality.

[@dedemushi7824]

@@thomasjenkins7506 *in a island

[@raikou8784]

Imagine if Charles had fallen on his neck instead of his leg, this show is horrifying

[@thewinner7382]

How hard is it to have proper safety mats

[@YourPalJamieEllis]

In that case the whole show probably gets scrapped or restarted, at the very least it doesn't make the air.

[@Quackervoltz]

That would have been horrible

[@scipioafricanus5871]

That's what happens when you create a reality tv show on the fly, to "keep it fresh".

[@JessChii]

I honestly don't understand how the show wasn't sued because of this.

[@Tori-qu7ku]

I feel like we’ve all seen a lot of dystopian/black mirror stuff this past year, but Twitter deciding who to STARVE on a game show might just be the worst

[@bigpooper4156]

Sounds like something from total drama

[@UnstableEquilibrium]

Something tells me that Twitter wasn't told beforehand what would happen to the loser of the vote.

[@delphinidin]

Makes you wish the contestants on the "future" side said "screw this; the future is going to be a more humanitarian one" and let all the "past" people into the warm with the food and the nice bedding. But I bet the producers would've turned off the cameras and made them stop if they tried :/

[@obscure.reference]

@@delphinidin if they stopped “playing” the “game” and just sat in the warm yes the producers probably would’ve stopped them lol

[@DustyHoney]

@@UnstableEquilibriumThey were watching the show as it came out, so, they would’ve known after the first time.

[@peffiSC2source]

20:55 "You have been eliminated" "Awesome" ... "You have been eliminated and you have to leave" "Thank you"

[@Apple_Bapple]

yeah

[@kaodi6993]

They weren’t supposed to react this way😅😂😂😂

[@somethingelse4424]

"No, seriously. Get the hell out now. " "Thanks, okay, I'm going" "Security will now escort you off of the property." "Fine, alright, thank you. I'm walking away." "The police are on their way. You can't be here." "Yes, I just need my crutches, I'm nearly there" "You are currently trespassing on private property, we will be filing criminal charges. Good luck mate."

[@nagisa0931]

@@somethingelse4424 I’m dead 😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😂 this is genius

[@amyki7467]

I havent stopped thinking about this. It's sooo funny.

[@evies.1018]

“Hey, how’d you get that scar?” “Oh, I was suspended on a Medieval torture rack while a minotaur pitched tomatoes at my face.”

[@lordcharles9786]

Enfys Best I suppose the show finally did make use of history but it wasn’t pretty

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

Liar!

[@lincolnb2244]

What does your name mean? It is extremely familiar. If it’s original, I have definitely seen you in the comments of a video before.

[@shannonceleste5557]

Omg I read your comment before I got to that part of the video I originally thought you were joking 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@ericarnold1739]

*frozen tomatoes apparently

[@joshyan1458]

Fun fact: Frank competed in the Titan Games (the obstacle course show hosted by The Rock) a few years ago and lost cuz he got stuck in this rolling log obstacle basically due to him being a fucking minotaur who skipped leg day

[@CNWhatImSaiyan]

… *”WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!”*

[@Weirdanimalboy]

You have no idea how much delight I got from reading this comment

[@akulahirpada1993]

WOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@kyre4189]

8:00 dude is obviously not a chicken leg.

[@IndependentTitle]

Frank seems like a real dick

[@travbot13]

I love how the wikipedia article for this show now has two sentences under "Reception." The first is an obvious advertising blurb about it being great, and the second is "Cultural critic Jenny Nicholson later referred to the program as "the worst reality show of all time," citing the numerous injuries on set, the unequal treatment of the two teams, and the lack of playtesting evident in many of the challenges."

[@digimonlover1632]

Late af and not denying the criticisms cause the show is really bad but I’m sure it’s just a word of praise from a reviewer. Not an advertising blurb.

[@Reptomon]

I really hope that Jenny has business cards that say "Cultural Critic".

[@obscure.reference]

@@digimonlover1632reviews are just a form of advertising, but yeah the review is not just an advertising blurb, it’s someone from a random, now defunct, chicago blog who just said it was “freakishly addicting” and that’s the entire quote/blurb. she also mentions the accidents and the total imbalance as a reason it was addicting, like watching underdogs.

[@WatchVidsMakeLists]

It's gone ;-;

[@danielcintz8880]

sadly removed now

[@ThePigKnight]

I love how they keep saying "Thank you" when they get eliminated.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

Short for "THANK F@$%ING GOD,,,, finally!"

[@mymarkis666]

Because it was awkward as fuck. They didn't know how to react to it.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

I think they were genuinely happy to get the hell out of there.

[@julie577]

I think they truly are glad to get out of there 😂

[@zoltanszaszi2264]

This one guy said, "awesome." Okay. Apparently it's just "say something and play it cool and just edge out of the frame" basically.

[@jones4106]

I can't tell if Charles is the biggest loser for the broken leg or biggest winner since he got to leave immediately.

[@Super_Suchi]

A soul for a soul

[@MedievalGenie]

Definitely a loser since that leg will never be fully healed for the rest of his life. That poor sod.

[@TacticusPrime]

@@localweeb2924 That's how big bone breaks work. That area is much more likely to break again. I knew a guy in high school who had broken his arm like 3 times.

[@Arella17]

@@MedievalGenie And got the pleasure of fighting the VA to get the surgeries he’ll need covered, if he’s insured via the VA.

[@somethingelse4424]

@@Arella17 Well I assume the show will be footing his medical expenses forever. Hopefully they buy him an enormous third nicer leg since they caused his injuries. Even if he signed a waiver, that doesn't excuse negligence... and it won't protect them from a devastating PR situation. Capitalism wins?

[@henryb.4925]

I like how "Epoch" and "Chronos" are both time-based words but neither of them imply a specific period

[@artyb27]

"So what's the brief for the team names? Got any clever ideas for me to start with?" "Eh, wibbly wobbly, timely wimey.." "Say no more, chief."

[@mysticwater9056]

They played chrono trigger once and were like “aha!”

[@wesleyoldham4222]

@@mysticwater9056 "And now the final challenge of the competition: The Time Egg."

[@dinonid1234]

Well, the intention was that they would be swapping sides of the house more!

[@vminweddingcaterer3675]

the picture of frank lifting up his babies like a flesh offering will never leave my mind for the rest of my life

[@Quackervoltz]

Never say flesh offering again

[@vminweddingcaterer3675]

@@Quackervoltz make me *bites lip*

[@Quackervoltz]

@@vminweddingcaterer3675 Dammit I can't

[@wjzav1971]

I honestly wonder how he raised his flesh offerings and how they grew up

[@bigdadybojangls9219]

@@wjzav1971 he’s an NYC fire fighter so you know he raised his flesh offerings as high as he could so that with their sacrifice, the twin towers may rise high again as well

[@petermendez7654]

y o u m a y n o t e a t f o r t w e n t y f o u r h o u r s

[@tungsten_talons]

But at least in THG you could at least, like, hunt a squirrel. Food wasn't being held from you, it was just hard to catch. (Not that I'm arguing it's easier, lmao)

[@tungsten_talons]

@xoxoBumble Eh, you know what I mean. I'm not very familiar with all the ~Hunger Games lore~, but I don't remember there ever having been no food (besides donations.... tributes, shall I say) at all. It's just the closest comparison I had. I'm also still mildly embarrassed by my use of 'at least' twice and so close together. It hurts me to look at, argh.

[@tealOmega980]

@@tungsten_talons From what I remember, there was one Hunger games held in the Arctic. It lasted all of an hour. BUT, if everyone hadn't frozen to death, food would have been an issue

[@cesarvera2198]

Peter Mendez “hey so you were last in the poll so you’re deprived of something you need to live”

[@peterk.9571]

Oh my god it's me from the past how the f did I get 2K likes

[@derinedala5032]

I can't get over how happy everyone looks to leave

[@ShadowKamehameha32]

Jack Madscientist Can you blame them? XD

[@d-culture927]

Leaving poor Charles horribly injured entirely because of the show's negligence, poor planning and lack of safety standards and then bringing him back for a 'heartwarming' tear-jerking moment is so cartoonishly evil.

[@lowkeylokii4205]

That maze with Frank wasnt even a "maze". It was just like...fluffy bumpers that frank shoved over lmfao

[@geckohunter123]

Yeah that through me off too! I thought they were like tight pillars that she could hide behind to avoid him

[@laytonspuzzle]

You know a reality show is bad when Total Drama Island treats their contestants better

[@jonnybuijze1770]

That was exactly what I was thinking 😂😂

[@battybleedingheart_]

Chris is quaking.😂

[@librasuperstar3779]

Which is saying a lot because their first challenge was to jump off a massive cliff into shark infested water

[@kn1ght-788]

@@librasuperstar3779 At least there were no cattle prods????

[@librasuperstar3779]

KN1GHT - I mean yeah, and also it’s animated so they didn’t shatter any bones

[@phoebexxlouise]

Frank trying to take his shirt off and getting it stuck on his helmet just sums up the whole show

[@armyofone5904]

Best comment ever

[@mrcritical6751]

I think it sums up his IQ pretty well too

[@filthypenguintv4931]

sums me up pretty well too

[@killjoymcquire6340]

*golf clap*

[@konturgestalter]

*slow clap*

[@KaitlynKatt]

The Onion made a parody reality tv show called ‘Sex House’ where the contestants are put in a house, that as time goes on, becomes filled with mold, loses electricity and blasts burning and freezing air. The contestants are also not given food and are deprived of nutrients. The similarities between a literal parody reality tv show created to mock and over exaggerate the absurdities of reality tv shows made by The Onion and this REAL LIFE reality tv show is very scary

[@heatherlee2967]

+

[@blorp.1956]

Breathe deeply, prepare for mist.

[@DuelaDent52]

Cloudy drink kills frog!

[@kjenslevar]

Wait it was a parody? I accidentally came across that when i was a kid and then went to bed and couldnt sleep because a guy crushed and killed a frog in that show

[@Urmoom007]

I thought It was a dream. I definitely stumbled into that show way too young and was so confused and probably saw stuff I shouldn't have

[@wtfaiwpodcast]

Based on this video, I checked out a Rooster Teeth podcast episode where Luke Tipple was a guest, and SOMEBODY GETS INJURED IN THE FIRST THREE MINUTES. It's not even his fault, I think that energy just follows him around.

[@timothymclean]

I feel bad for anyone who worked with him on Shark Week programming...

[@anewhero1216]

Rooster Teeth has to be the most accident-prone place he could have gone too, that injury was inevitable lol

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

_. . . For a thousand years. . . ._

[@Ohnogoblin]

I didn’t like this comment because it’s at 666 and that seems perfect

[@timothymclean]

@@Ohnogoblin Well it's at 668 now. You can't expect everyone to be as principled as you.

[@SuperFudgeproduction]

This is.... a real life Total Drama Island.. who greenlit this?

[@magziewheeler]

That's exactly what I was thinking!

[@scaredbi]

My theory: some studio executive's kid loved total drama island so to impress their kid they made this show and their kid was very, very disappointed.

[@Mngalahad]

Not quite. In total drama, everyone got fucked while the host would be relaxing. Here, its just one team that has that. And some of these games are non competitive, like the 12 second chase one. In total drama, every game was an asshole game but it was evenly hard for most players. Like, no one, fire figther or wimp, would want to get in a barrel with leeeches.

[@AwesomeAutismHC]

Sarah Wagoner That was my theory with Emeril a shower liner and the last Airbender movie

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

It is, that's the worst part.

[@EDoyl]

The planning for this show began and ended with the fur bikinis. They had an idea to have fur bikinis, and they made whatever show they needed to to make those bikinis a reality.

[@herbertortiz9159]

I want to like your comment but I can’t. You can tell why.

[@slitherthewizardofwither6959]

@@herbertortiz9159 because 555

[@guardianoftheduat]

@@herbertortiz9159 🙄

[@joshnelson1279]

That's actually just what happened.

[@superlolgal555]

As someone who watches a lot of lyfy just for their completely crazy wild way of trying to appeal to future generations, this comment 100% makes sense and lines up with lyfy's entire general vibe.

[@natecrosman7732]

Can't believe she didn't mention that when Frank won, he was clearly trying to take his shirt off so he could scream bare chested, but he couldn't get the shirt off over his helmet, nor could he take off his helmet, so he just kind of awkwardly dances with his shirt kind of off, lol

[@gracie1312]

21:45

[@YourMom-jd6jp]

5:47 This aspect of the show actually sounds like a good representation of how hard it can be to escape poverty when you've been born and raised in it

[@Erika-gn1tv]

The biggest question I have is how they kept Epoch from killing and eating the film crew.

[@No-hf1xq]

Maybe that's why the team switch happened, they needed 24/7 surveillance after week 6.

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Epoch the son of Eon?

[@delsin1126]

Erika Söderlund that would’ve been much more interesting

[@atalentlessidiot7872]

Erika Söderlund Tbh, that would make a way better reality show. Just starve a group of people and see how long it would take until they kill and cannibalize someone.

[@JCResDoc94]

nowhere was it said that crew wernt eaten.

[@Blacknight8850]

This honestly seems like some kind of Stanford Prison Experiment type setup where the subjects all think they're on a reality show but it's actually studying how much bullshit they can subject the Past team to while favouring the Future team until the Past team snaps.

[@Graknorke]

Would've been ace if there was a prison riot type thing happened. Smash down the glass wall, storm the future side, execute whoever was in charge of the whole mess.

[@Graknorke]

The only thing Robespierre did wrong was leaving too many heads on shoulders.

[@trevorward6040]

Would've been better with this premise

[@QuikVidGuy]

And much like the prison experiment, it was entirely unscientific and unprepared

[@governor_explosion]

I did some brief research and found out that marine biology does have a subspecialty involving psychology, but someone who studies the pod dynamics of dolphins doesn’t in any way really translate to human psychology.

[@productionteam1368]

16:09 - Former reality show segment producer here - No, reality shows are never audited for safety. Watching this video was amusing but mostly infuriating because I have worked on multiple reality shows and it reminded me of the productions where the bottom line was "make it cheap" and no other considerations were taken into account. Reality shows are the end result of capitalism co-opting entertainment. They are literally dangerous, cynical, pointless, wasteful, shallow, regressive fluff created for the bare minimum of cost to fill time between commercials. 18:55 - I can assure you that no, I haven't met a show runner who gives two shits about contestants (or crew, really) on a show as low-grade as this. The show runners are the people who invented this stupid, dangerous game. They only care about cashing paychecks and not getting sued. I worked on Celebrity Wife Swap, Marriage Bootcamp (both Celebrity and regular), Cupcake Wars, Garage Sale Wars, Unchained Reactions, and several other one-offs that never got renewed because they caused so much harm to the cast and crew. Really enjoy your content.

[@rfrolicarts]

Do you have any horrible stories to share?

[@timetravelermediallc]

​@@rfrolicarts Unchained Reaction was probably the worst, in terms of a show that was so underfunded as to be completely stupid and uninteresting while also being very dangerous for both cast and crew. Meant as a spinoff to Mythbusters, the show is ostensibly about having rival teams try to build giant Rube Goldberg machines in a warehouse out of piles of junk in three days and whichever has the coolest one wins. Sounds cool. However, our budget was laughably miniscule. The challenge is to build big impressive Rube Goldberg machines, but Discovery did not want to pay for the rights to say "Rube Goldberg Machine" so they went with "chain reaction machine". The warehouse the showrunner selected was enormous, far too large for the budget, but he wanted it big to house the HUGE machines he was sure the contestants would build. Because the warehouse was so big but the budget so small, the place was underlit at all times because it is difficult to light a place as big as a warehouse on the cheap. This meant tripping hazards were everywhere and crew/cast injuries from trips were extremely common. Furthermore, the piles of junk were pitifully weak because again, no real funding. I think the showrunner's assumption was that we'd be able to get junk like old fridges and washing machines and chains for free, but that simply isn't the case. Junk yards charge for stuff like that. Further, they didn't factor in the cost of transporting the junk to the warehouse, or a crew of loaders to handle the junk on either end. Also, tools; showrunner didn't budget for tools to put these machines together. I think this idiot presumed that tools don't cost much, as real "What could a miter saw possibly cost? $10?" sort of thing. And all of this is before you get to the actual show. The teams were divided up by color, but instead of traditional opposing colors like red and blue, the showrunner settled on green and yellow for teams; two colors which look very similar in an underlit warehouse AND are indistinguishable by some people who are colorblind, which it turned out multiple cast and crew members were. Now these machines are being designed and built on-the-fly by folks from a variety of backgrounds. You'd have one team of motorcycle builders, another of animatronic puppeteers, another of literal rocket scientists, and so on. However, a lot of these folks are NOT structural engineers, so these devices they were constructing, on a deadline, were very slap-dash and not under the supervision of anyone with safety in mind. There simply wasn't a budget for that. So you'd have some team try to use an old fridge as a counterweight on some see-saw, and it would go flying off during testing, nearly crushing people or busting holes in the walls of the warehouse. At least two episodes ended anticlimatically when a team's machine destroyed itself before the deadline but without any time to rebuild. A lot of the machines simply did not work and were big let downs, but Adam Savage would have to sell like something interesting is happening. We had one hospitalization of a team member when a large sharp piece of metal fell off their machine and sliced up his leg really badly. Another dumb thing was the rival teams they invented; I recall one episode was Rocket Scientists vs Special Effects Artists, with the unsubtle idea about "who will end up being smarter?" Except, the scientists are literal scientists, not rocket engineers or builders, whereas the SFX team are builders, it's their job. So the rocket scientists look embarassingly bad the entire time and the VFX artists look better...but then again, they have so little to work with and their ideas are so big, that they overdesign their machine and it fails to work on display day. So the end result is two terrible disappointments. Early on I complained loudly about how underfunded this whole project was and what a trainwreck it was going to be without more resources, and the showrunner would literally tell me and my fellow producers "Y'all need to make some miracles happen! You're my little miracle makers! That's why I hired you." We did not make miracles happen. Instead, we made a horrible disappointment happen. At least I got to meet Adam and Jamie.

[@heatherofmorans]

@@timetravelermediallc holy shit lol thank you for sharing this piece of disaster reality show history

[@timetravelermediallc]

@@heatherofmorans You're quite welcome. There are clips from this disaster on KZbin, here's a more benign moment but still pretty typical kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqPUdqiXbLyspZo

[@AwStitch626]

​@@timetravelermediallc😊 0:02 0:02

[@katatat2030]

I think it's hilarious that they thought they were setting up a "brains vs brawn" thing where the primitive group would be stronger but the modern group would be smarter. Like why would being deprived of food and the standard of living you're used to make you physically stronger.

[@zawrator4457]

I mean you couldve easily set that up in a way it works: have the "future" side be a dystopia with a house with no windows, no recreation and have all their food be tasteless stuff that only gives good nutrition. Meanwhile the "past" team whilst living outside would have access to regular food and yk a non depressing environment.

[@ferretchad]

​@zawrator4457 I'd have gone with future: all food delivered but is trash fast food and microwave meals. TVs, computer games, Internet, etc for entainment but limited access to the outside. Caveman: Food is plentiful fresh fruits, veg and meat but requires physical tasks to get (particularly so for meat). Unlimited access to the outside but no entertainment items unless they make them themselves.

[@SomeBlokeOrWhatever]

So a show meant to demonstrate the difference between Past and Future -- Actually demonstrated the gap between Rich and Poor.

[@cottage-core_]

+

[@celestialloves4264]

Wow, that's brilliant. If they had phrased it this way, and made a few subtle changes, they could've made some really interesting points.

[@lgbtqiarights]

or both idk

[@harmonlanager2670]

All history is class warfare

[@ChaosRocket]

Celestial Loves There was already a season of Survivor that was exactly that, the two competing tribes were the Haves and the Have-Nots with the Haves getting all the food and luxury items.

[@kittysrock16]

Frank should play Jake from Trigger Warning in a film adaption

[@elvellarambles9151]

kittysrock16 Frank is certainly b i g e n o u g h

[@apriljones1013]

yes. please

[@lavenderscare4995]

@@elvellarambles9151 you sure? from the description of the book, I don't know if he's big enough...

[@sentrenade1244]

I'm dying

[@nothinghappens9811]

I don't know, he might need to get a little bigger for that.

[@FCHenchy]

"You are the *first* Opposite Worlds champion." Only in a true opposite world could this get a second season.

[@hommefataltaemin]

The amount of times Frank injured someone…. I do not think he’s as innocent as it appears

[@desdes5622]

I like to think that Frank's drunk buddies set this whole thing up cause Frank was having a hard time and they just wanted him to feel cool again.

[@mrcritical6751]

Luke was just a random homeless guy they got off the streets and said “now you’re a scientist”

[@DukeExemplo]

This is the best conspiracy theory I've seen in a long time.

[@faeriegraver]

Lmao I love this

[@bloodmachine6049]

His Twitter has him being on the show as the foremost thing in the bio, and the only thing, except links to other social media.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

This whole "reality show" was arranged by a bunch of frat boys.

[@musicwaffles5481]

8:11 'he's just a big, dumb, lumbering, smiley, well-meaning monster' is literally my favourite sentence of all time congratulations

[@doll_dress_swap1269]

Peek himbo energy 😂

[@madeniquevanwyk]

Except noy himbo energy or well-meaning at all 😩 the guy's sociopathic tendencies came out in competitions and he got a MAJOR ego after the show

[@carolyns4519]

Peak mastiff or Rottweiler energy

[@BlackOrderAlchemist]

@@madeniquevanwyk It's always such a shame when that happens :'y Lord, give me an incorruptible himbo

[@joshcrittendon9416]

I love how in the “labyrinth” (which btw doesn’t look anything like a maze) challenge, Angela basically runs directly towards Frank.

[@Wizardofgosz]

So wait... you're telling me, that when the producers learned all of the kindling and fire-starting supplies were too wet to burn, they didn't give team Epoch stuff that would burn??? So like the players wouldn't get hypothermia?!?!?!?

[@clarkkent1521]

Maybe the producers were hoping they'd rip some material from the fur bikinis to start a fire.

[@Empedocles449]

And when it wasn't summer, they didn't let them dress for winter.

[@chimeforest]

Clearly they didn't want to spend the money to: get into a car, drive to the nearest gas station, and pick up a couple bundles of firewood =/

[@richardbraakman7469]

No but cavemen didn't have dry wood either. After all, where could they keep it dry??

[@TheMags4life]

@@richardbraakman7469 I feel like “realism” should have taken a back seat to safety here just for moral reasons, but also considering how half assed the theming is throughout the rest of the show. They could’ve given them food and kindling.

[@salzshakes4895]

I have to keep reminding myself that this was 2014 when it has such strong 2007 vibes

[@StarWarsomania]

2014 was just discount 2007.

[@charlescole1766]

@@StarWarsomania 7+7=14

[@cthulhutheendless1587]

2+0+1+4=7

[@ForeverGotShorter]

Yeah, up until I noticed the hashtag, I'd assumed it had come out around '05 to '07, and once I did I just went "oh, okay, it must've been no later than 2010 then, because I feel like it was around that time when these kinds of 'bunch of people live in a house and compete in challenges at night' reality game shows finally died out". Even the haircuts feel very late aughts to me.

[@ForeverGotShorter]

Like, if you had told me the host had had a guest spot in an episode of Lost I would've totally bought that.

[@AlisterTate]

“how do you feel about that, man?” “I kinda feel bad.” truly riveting television. a twist at every turn.

[@MrDestroyercraft]

18:08 I played that back 3 times just to make sure I was hearing "horse manure" and "explosive charges" correctly

[@brizzyvoices]

I know Steve IRL. And yeah, he does still have that scar.

[@Deedj1]

Brizzy Voices I love your connection with other audiences, and that you aren’t placed on a pedestal. Love you Brizzy

[@Deedj1]

Toad Cozart #Toad cute. Speak from experience?

[@FBi_.]

Dylan Applegate yup i had plenty woman get on there back and knees for me why u ask?

[@zombieedrea]

Toad Cozart #Toad squad How can you even get on your knees if you're lying on your back?

[@Hey_Jamie]

Hey look! It's you!

[@LeetMasterAce]

lmfao "Minotaur" I thought the unintelligence was an exaggeration, but no. Frank is literally an 18 Strength, 18 Constitution, 7 Intelligence barbarian

[@erinhaury5773]

But his charisma has to be at least 14. I refuse to believe he's not making it through life on his looks and brawn combined.

[@_Kuma_]

I couldn’t dislike Frank though, he seemed like he was genuinely happy to have won that one maze game lol... Like it was sort of cute in a weird way that this giant beast of a man was celebrating something that he was pretty obviously going to win

[@_Kuma_]

Just saw the end - I agree that Frank winning was pretty satisfying. He seems like a nice guy and I hope he was able to afford to do some fun things with his kids and wife.

[@sadrabbit53]

I snorted at that, thanks

[@matthewcooper4248]

Strength 100 One Handed 100 Two Handed 100 Speech 0

[@eswan8900]

Imagine being on the past team and, if you're female like me literally wearing a bikini, in freezing temperatures while the camera crew is dressed in coats and warm clothing. Plus nothing to make a fire. And knowing that some of your fellow contestants are sleeping in heated rooms and warm beds. I'd be pretty pissed.

[@janeeyre1990]

My instinct would have been to ambush a member of the crew while they were alone on a smoke break and steal their warm clothes, any food they had on them, and their lighter/matches I don't play by your rules, Luke Tipple!

[@cam4636]

@@janeeyre1990 Smarter move would be to steal their keys and get tf out of there, though

[@pinkpeppers5580]

The furkini thing still gets me, like, wtf, the past team is already primed to lose but then the girls have it even worse with their clothes not even being functional

[@Drewbie176]

18:03 “Week seven, they remind the contestants that they hate them by having the challenge where they dig through a giant mountain of horse manure to find explosive charges.” I genuinely can’t stop laughing at this, Jesus Christ

[@caitmonroe9349]

Right? I crack up every time she just drops that line and keeps going

[@lyndonwesthaven6623]

Why explosive charges??

[@pdlbean]

"Yeah, I have to have surgery." "How do you feel about that?" "Uh... I kinda feel bad."

[@heatgerm]

I had this literal conversation with my brother when he broke his leg.

[@KagurasSacrifice]

I think the worst reality show I've seen was "I Want to Marry Harry" where a bunch of women compete in a Bachelor-Style show, deprived of any outside contact, to marry a guy who looks ambiguously like Prince Harry who is not Prince Harry and is not at all wealthy. It's on a big English country estate, they constantly wave around "hints" that he's a prince, and these girls who are not given the allowance of a simple google search start tearing each other apart not for love but to become a literal princess because they deceive them all into thinking he's royalty. This aired before he was married, and oh dear god did no one come out looking like a good person.

[@wjsnactivist6141]

Yeah.... And they had a "therapist" come on the show to tell the women who could tell that he wasn't actually Prince Harry that they had trust issues and needed to calm down. The "therapist" was one if the producers.

[@renge5589]

Woah

[@mmtruooao8377]

@@wjsnactivist6141 shit that sounds illegal but so does everything in opppsite worlds lol

[@TheFreepie]

@@wjsnactivist6141 Lol sounds like the producers watched Shutter Island and were like "This needs to be a gameshow"

[@NateBeeman]

I remember seeing ads for that when it came out.

[@48917032]

Punishing someone via twitter votes? That was LITERALLY a Black Mirror episode.

[@andytruss1259]

The visit from charles felt like one of the more awkward scenes from the office lol

[@andieallison6792]

Like when Michael burned his foot lmfao

[@HurricaneDDragon]

“To lose him in this experience is terrible for me because he was my crutch... I mean, he was the best member of the CAST!... I mean, without him we don’t have a leg to stand on! ...I mean... I’m just gonna stop talking now.”

[@amityisprecious1334]

THE MOST UNDERRATED COMMENT😂

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

"I'm just gonna put my foot in my -- _dang_ it!"

[@Whatlander]

It's going tibia tough game without him. (Charles if you see this I am sorry and hope you are okay.)

[@sophiagoodman-merel7453]

They should have 1) Put people more inclined mentally in the "future" house and more physically able people in the "past" house to begin, 2) filmed in the summer in a place with little humidity, 3) make pros and cons for each house. For example, those in the future have to eat dehydrated food or rations or something, like an astronaut would. Those in the past get fresh ingredients to eat and attempt to make food with. Everything in the future could be purely efficient too, so it would be less luxurious and more having to make certain sacrifices to keep up the efficiency of the future. It will probably still be favorable to the past, but it will be closer to equal that way. There could also be incentive to switch where your team stays after winning a challenge if you get a different reward for each place. What I mean is, for example if you chose to be in the past, then you would get a hint as to what the next challenge is and be able to prepare. If you chose to be in the future, then you could call and chat with family or friends. And the prize for each will be different every challenge. 4) SAFETY PRECAUTIONS OBVIOUSLY! HOW DID THEY FUCK THAT ONE UP?? 5) make the challenges half physical, half mental, and some with overlapping qualities of both. Knowledge of history and evolution should help you in these challenges. Again: No one should be in harm's way for any of these challenges.

[@Keychain696]

I know, right? Who would ever choose the cave side of the house? WHO? They have to give a little incentive to want it.

[@inthegrass11]

They should've swapped the teams over every week or two, to balance it out

[@River2384]

Where the heck were you when they were planning this show?!?! Except then we wouldn't have gotten this awesome video.. Well now we need a season two but you need to be there or better yet, make your own and act like you've never heard of this one or something. Be like , "I was thinking like a Total Drama vibe, but more humane and in the future a little bit. Like a Total Drama: Time Swappy Thing or Time Force!!" And yea that's what I was thinking, there needs to be incentive to want to swap, no one wants to freeze their butt off for free! Same with the other stuff, except I'd make it more around mid-spring-ish so that it can be cold but sometimes warm. Change when they put the actual seasons out too for a weather challenge.. Maybe they just threw the show together to get it out before someone else or something and paid off safety people, because there is absolutely no reason reason for the lack of safety, honestly even the thought of safety really. She said the mats weren't even big enough to even be ready for any kind impact really!! I honestly wonder how they felt when they were editing this for tv..

[@daianmoi8528]

They could have made the future house sleep in those tiny pods they make for living in areas with high population density. Just adding to an already stellar list.

[@michaeladams762]

and they should have brought heaters for the outdoor people. Making them sleep in the cold is way too cruel. It's like they thought "we're gonna make the futuristic people do whatever but the people in the past have to live EXACTLY like someone in the past would!!!"

[@Nocturnalux]

The closest I know to this show, in terms of just torturing the contestants, is the Japanese 'Za Gaman'. It is very old, 80's/90's old, and absolutely insane. Basically, a bunch of college kids were put through a series of increasingly more dangerous and humiliating 'challenges'. One of these included the infamous 'starvation booth', which is exactly as the name states: two kids were locked in a see-through cube-like booth placed by a river. They are to be held there 24 hours without eating. If they can refuse the food that will be offered them after they have been starving for close to a whole day, they win. If they eat, they lose. It actually gets worse: Given the closeness to the river and the fact that the flooring was sheer concrete, the booth was terribly cold. Then, the food they were offered was cold noodles introduced into slots...so that they inevitably fell on the floor. Yes, these poor starving, cold numbed and by now hardly coherent boys had to scoop their noodles from the floor and eat them! While the host cackled manically and let them know what LOSERS they were for not hanging in there a little longer. Starve like men! These kids went from being really happy-go-lucky to sniveling, shivering messes, unable to shake and crying. And I am not sure 'starvation booth' was even the worst 'challenge'. Another one is close to water boarding: they'd bury the poor guy all the way to the neck, by the sea so that the incoming waves would submerge his head for quite a while. Or they would use the same setting but would pour pepper into the eyes and mouth and in order to make sure they didn't close the eyes, a 'Clockwork Orange' like device was used! In yet another, they tied them to a water wheel...and yes, the wheel was working. But perhaps the most infamous challenge was the electroshocking one...Here, two guys were sat across from each other with electrodes attached to their naked chests and took turns taking shocks! I can't recall if they shocked each other or if someone from the show did it, either way, the voltage would climb each turn until they would writhe in pain. The first person to tap out, lost.

[@ThatDurre]

ARE YOU SURE THIS WASNT JUST A PSYCHOPATHS VIDEO LOG OF HIS VICTIMS LEAKED TO THE WORLD ACCIDENTALLY.

[@Nocturnalux]

@@ThatDurre You're not entirely wrong. The host at the starvation booth, in particular, was enjoying himself way too much, laughing and cracking jokes at the poor kids who hadn't eaten in 24 hours. "Za Gaman" came out at a time when non-American entertainment was not readily available in the States; it became known because a late night show host- I forgot who it was- found a VHS tape and decided to do a skit about it. His first reaction was, "Is this for real?", and who can blame him. Nor was this show unique either. Other Japanese "prank" shows around that time included staging a terrorist attack, in which a poor guy thought he was being gunned down; toilet seats that were dragged out to sea and massage chairs that were tossed down snowy slopes; and in one particularly egregious example, an escape artist who was made to think he was about to burn to death, while his family watched.

[@NateCooper111]

@@Nocturnalux holy shit I remember seeing that one with the drive by during Japanese class in high school! It had a live studio audience laughing at this guy lying prone thinking all his coworkers got gunned down

[@Nocturnalux]

@@NateCooper111 Yes! Absolutely insane. I don't think I ever encountered anyone else who had seen it.

[@brawlornothin1008]

I screamed the whole time watching this. Also my mom worked on multiple reality shows behind the scenes and can confirm reality show runners are some of the cruelest and ruthless people out there. They will always put entertainment before the safety of anyone

[@peregrinecovington4138]

Yeah Jenny was being weirdly nice to the producers of the show. They seem evil, they were torturing people.

[@HarperNell]

OH MY GOD I watched this show YEARS AGO and I have been looking for the name ever since, it remains one of the most surreal, dream-like memories I have from that year. I watched it while I had the flu and just- I thought it might have been a hallucination or a dream for years.

[@Champiness]

I had a similar experience watching the Syfy channel while sick, except it turned out to be reruns of a supernatural procedural that called itself “Friday The 13th: The Series” but had nothing in common with the movies other than its production company. It was like a bootleg X-Files except they couldn’t come up with a bunch of different monster plots for the main characters to investigate, so every episode was “one-off character finds a magical artifact that does something they want in exchange for murders”. I, personally, would commit a magical murder to get a retrospective like this about it.

[@DerpDevilDD]

Champiness Dude, X-files came out *years* after Friday the 13th: The Series. It wasn't suppose to revolve fully around the main recurring characters fighting monsters. They ran that curio shop of cursed objects and shit. It's more like The Conjuring film franchise, if you think about it.

[@Champiness]

So what you’re saying is it’s the exact right time for James Wan to reboot Friday The 13th: The Series as a prestige Netflix show, which of course I agree with

[@Champiness]

I can’t wait to see who they get for the popstar role originally filled by Vanity in that episode where a fan finds a magical hypnotism watch and realizes over the course of several wishes-granted-in-exchange-for-hypnotism-murders that he kinda just wants to be Vanity

[@tatehildyard5332]

I had the same experience with “Little People From LA”. I worked as a night shift security guard in a hospital and it was on the tv in the ER waiting room. It was so bizarre that I wouldn’t be surprised if that whole shift turned out to have been a dream.

[@Karragh]

The crew of survivor has an entire group of people whose sole job is to run through every challenge before the contestants actually do it, to test camera set ups, but also playtest the challenge for unforeseen issues. You know, unforseen issues like 10 foot death drops with no safety padding, or a maze that literally takes 5 seconds to run through

[@Nocturnalux]

And still people have been pretty severely hurt on occasion so this one was just an inevitable horror. If anything, it's a wonder no one died.

[@mpk1028]

It's ashamed the network pulled the plug so early. The second season the contestants were supposed to escape a mine field and hunt a grizzly with a spork.

[@georgerogers2120]

"Do reality shows just not get audited for workplace safety?" (Looks up news about labor practices in film and television) No, not really. Turns out working in any capacity in film and TV can be downright harrowing because they can end up cutting some very important corners.

[@Keychain696]

Wow, I feel so bad for the military guy that broke his leg. Seriously, what were the people who made this show thinking??

[@pinkflametheepic]

they weren't

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Keychain696 How do you think he felt? Eighteen years in military service, surviving some of the harshest conditions a person can be subjected to, gaining intense survivalist training and physical versatility, for what? To be critically injured by a pretty boy tool on a game show, and need to leave before the first contestant was disqualified. That’s gotta be demoralizing.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Vincient Jackman Probably. But, y’know, his survivalist knowledge probably would’ve helped Epoch not be half as malnourished.

[@jonsnor4313]

Seeing that small clip when he visited he really seemed to feel bad about leaving his team mates behind. He obviously had a gag clause to prevent him from speaking up in his contract, but he looks sad.

[@matthewcooper4248]

They weren't.

[@AhegaoMachine666]

Sooooo they tortured team Epoch. Like, thats just torture.

[@Mngalahad]

I think it was a front to get the competitors when in reality, its a comfy hous3 vs a torture house. Which is fine but at least they should be honest about it.

[@hopeless2309]

Your profile I can't

[@giggz1667]

"i have a porn addiction so intense other people notice, but im normal, lets talk about something normal, i expect you to just ignore all this"

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

Mngalahad so basically total drama island except that one team bribed the host for better living conditions?

[@jonathanwilliams2320]

@@wurdnurd1 stop

[@fish_in_distress]

Luke could've had some cool line for when players got eliminated like "You have to return to the present" instead he goes with "Good luck, but, you have to leave" 😂

[@insouciantFox]

It's like they saw: "Who would win in a fight: a caveman or an astronaut?" and took it WAY too seriously.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

Astronauts should not be fighting _anyone._ I'm sorry -- they're amazing people, and they go through things most people probably can't, both physically and mentally, but their bones are made out of rainbow nerds and plaster of Paris. An astronaut might actually be in serious danger from getting rushed by a sickly toddler in a wheelchair. Nope. Just nope.

[@pandorasangel2747]

@@eyesofthecervino3366 that is if they stay in zero gravity for to long with no exercise

[@Skull35]

@@pandorasangel2747 but what if the fight is IN ZERO GRAVITY?

[@pandorasangel2747]

@@Skull35 if the Astronaut has his jetpack or a gun then the caveman is a sitting duck in this instant. If he doesn't then the fight will be awkward and probably be a draw xD

[@TheBlarggle]

jesus christ. How does a show like this get green lit? No safety measures, completely stacked, not an ounce of awareness.

[@supermutantsam1160]

It feels like a fucking live action remake of Total Drama Island.

[@Nionivek]

It even includes the random last second rule changes.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

+The Blarggle Welcome to Hollywood!

[@lookatthiscutekittyc2903]

You know what's worse? That this show format was bought and remade with local stars in my country, Chile. It was one of the most successful reality tv show here ever, with a rating point of 31,4 in average...and it was just as shitty as this one. The female contestant that won this show was a Justin Bieber imitator. I honestly don't know what's worse.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

+Look at this cute kitty c: The tragic thing is what that says about the human race.

[@lindashrugemoji9351]

i like how jenny’s initial reasoning for why it’s so bad is bc a producer didn’t take madam zeroni up the mountain

[@ruthantunez92]

Deep deep 4th grade cut!

[@Liz-lq8hw]

@@ruthantunez92 good ol' Stanley Yelnats

[@poombly4352]

#Holes2forDisney+

[@ObjectsInMotion]

_and you will be _*_cursed_*_ for always and eternity~_

[@orencohen9635]

If only, if only, the woodpecker cries...

[@jackalobowaitthisnameistaken]

"I have to have surgery, yeah" "Well how do you feel about that, man?" Bruh how do you think he feels about that.

[@420mralucard]

When I first saw the promos for this they didn't even say it was a game show, they just showed two CGI woman interacting across the glass, and I thought it was gonna be a scifi show about people from the future literally interacting with cavemen.

[@PocketSizedOwlHikari]

COULD have been an interesting premise if it was actually thought through. Have team past be all people who pride themselves in brawn, maybe some super fit survivalist types; team future be all highly educated people who pride themselves on their brains. Have all the challenges have equal amounts of physical and mental challenge. But this seems like they were just like "But, what if we make one team sleep in the dirt?"

[@lillieampurra]

future gets some pre-made meal shit, but it all tastes sort of bland, while past gets fresh fruits and organic proteins or something but they have to prepare it in some way to make sure everyone gets nutrition. also the past could have had uncomfortable hammocks while the future had kinda shitty beds with like cot matresses. like the concept is there! but they just half assed it for some cash and even screwed that up too.

[@jonsnor4313]

Make the future eat vegan and limit the meat to the past. They get fruits too. The discomfort in the future about making electiricity sounds good. Or they have to solve riddles and mindgames to get food, or something. And mix teams by giving members the chance to shuffle. Lets see how long frank wants to be in the future. Even through he seems like a decent bloke, it makes the show so anti intellectual.

[@thiccbih3140]

Jon Snor lowkey though what kind of future has everyone eat vegan food

[@thehamburgler3570]

thicc bih it’s all arbitrary to make the game more even in sport of competition and fun

[@Sheuto]

@@thiccbih3140 It's likely in the future most people will be vegan because of overpopulation and climate change actually ;o But honestly they should eat something like soylent or these NASA packages of food. Basically, it has all of the nutrition your body needs but tastes like nothing. Then the team Epok would have access to all yummy stuff but they would have to cook it themselves using a campfire. It could be interesting, because then Team Chronos would have the advantage of perfect nutrition, but at the same time they would probably crave something that has flavor real bad. After a few weeks I imagine some people would volunteer to Epok just to eat normal food.

[@DaisyMSP]

"you have been eliminated, and you have to leave right now" *claps* oh ok

[@thecourrrr]

Upchuck Downchuck and everytime the contestants are like thank you thanks

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

They're so grateful that they can leave

[@lemonaids5689]

Upchuck Downchuck pee

[@loli_cvnt5622]

Can't even quote right smh

[@princesspattycakeswm]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@BeautifulBelladonna]

Fun fact: If you look in the Wikipedia article about this show, it mentions this video and calls Jenny a cultural critic

[@penina8438]

I love that for her lol

[@Valkyrie0713.]

So I used to work at a few Renaissance festivals and hang out with the tomato guys. Fun fact! Many of them were missing teeth. From the tomatoes. Most faires will only give you halved or quarter tomatoes these days to minimize any damage. On cold days those guys take a beating. They can do more damage than your average joe might imagine. Poor Steve and Mercy

[@matman000000]

How did the creators not get sued to the oblivion? I get that there are contracts against injury responsibility and so on, but there must be some limits and job descriptions, right? Some of these are just physical torture and completely unprofessional, dangerous stunts that the contestants are thrown into like lab rats.

[@michaeladams762]

They might have, I doubt it'd get much publicity because this show doesn't sound extremely popular

[@suicidebyfema4767]

Cuz its fake yo

[@Bi_scotti_5]

@@suicidebyfema4767 you think someone pretended to break their leg or get a huge cut in their face?

[@Lyoko1309]

Waivers are a hell of a drug

[@reallivebluescat]

@@suicidebyfema4767 cause they wanted miserable ratings?? 😂

[@imafr11]

fish bodies didn't exist in the past, they are a modern invention

[@adaptiveplexus]

Yeah also cattle prods existed in the past but there was no cattle so people had to use them on each other.

[@ArchenOpteryx]

Ever wonder why we've only ever found the *skulls* of Dunkleosteus?

[@aenithharper2417]

This reality show actually sounds exactly like some of the traumatizing psychological studies that were done about how far humans would go for a reward or an authority figure. The types of experiments that are cautionary tales in many psychology classes due to the massive trauma they inflicted on the participants.

[@archkull]

Cool

[@andeggbreaks]

I think they are influenced a lot more by contractual obligations

[@VadBlackwood]

@@andeggbreaks contractual obligations are kind of an authority figure of a sort, I would say...

[@ForeverGotShorter]

And of course, turns out most of those studies (specifically Milgram and Zimbardo's) were total bullshit, so the data they got out of it is completely useless.

[@steelplatedheart]

Fun fact a lot of those studies are... Well, not fake but certainly not legitimate. For example in the Stanford prison experiment it's left off how frequently the lead researcher had to instigate the abuse. Also the participants were self selecting for sociopathy based on the way the ads were worded.

[@BrooklynStevenson]

So basically no girl could’ve ever won the show, because all of the challenges were physical and they were up against giant men

[@TheScaredLittleScholar]

and also they were wearing bikinis

[@Kapenguin448]

BIG MAN

[@jamesclarkson923]

Exactly, it’s a bunch of skinny supermodel ladies against literally human hulks who could bench press a sixteen wheeler

[@kirbyhatesincels917]

Actually, that depends on the women and the men. In this case, all of the women look like they have average strength while the males look like they all regularly strength train. If they added in women who are bodybuilders or even strongwomen (though strongwomen might not be fair, since they're stronger than the majority of humans on the planet, lol), the results would wildly differ. Also, we've seen 'average' women win against men before, like on Ninja Warrior, Splash Out etc. Technique is also a huge factor.

[@davidpeters6743]

@@kirbyhatesincels917 I mean it depends on what kind of challenge you're talking. 'Average' Women have never beaten men at things like Pugil sticks to the best of my knowledge. There are certain kinds of challenges where they might. But not most. The real answer would have been to have some varied challenges, which could have included things that raw physical explosive strength isn't going to absolutely dominate.

[@ndzhelin2651]

my main issue is them not giving a huge variety of food and meat to the Epoch people but giving them stale bread??? what the hell is that supposed to represent. if they're pre-agriculture they aint got bread, least of all stale bread.

[@timothymclean]

Granted, pre-agricultural people _did_ eat grain, but they didn't have the querns or ovens required to turn it into bread.

[@aptalsandvic5355]

People that lived in those times weren't stupid either, they obviously were able make functional clothes that kept them warm. They also told stories, made art and looked out for each other. There are foundings that prove they took care of their disabled relatives. It makes me so angry to see when people act as if our ancestors were barely functional idiots. They weren't, the lack of technology does not mean they were less human than us.

[@alexturlais8558]

@@aptalsandvic5355 Cavemen didn't have porn yet so their women had to wear fur bikinis

[@gingermaniac5484]

Guess you can say they liked it, rock hard pfffftavdbdhsh

[@Coin945]

Ancient doesn’t equal stupid. There were cavemen geniuses just like there are Gen Z geniuses. Just using a different playbook of tech.

[@anajulia-mi1bf]

“you have to leave right now” “thank you!”

[@robertvandemotter565]

"Frank starts hopping from platform to platform like an enraged Donkey Kong" is the phrase my saturday needed.

[@stephenleblanc4677]

I know it can't be true, but I can't help seeing the frowns on the porgs getting deeper and deeper as Jenny explains the show and then describes what happened.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

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[@eyesofthecervino3366]

:(

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

:c

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

:C

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[@dumpstercub2902]

This wasn't even how early humans lived, it's like the most vague minimal attempt at science/history education to make you feel like a big brain while watching chicks in fur kinis

[@evamiller4886]

Yeah, if they gave them fur clothes why couldn’t they give them furs to sleep on and use as blankets? Early humans weren’t just sleeping in the open air freezing all the time. And the food is also silly.

[@gweria]

Modern bread, and orange carrots. I don't know when I'd put modern bread at (though bread from wild grains goes back at least 14000 years and probably more than 30000 years), but orange carrots date to around the 16th century AD. I would have thought there'd be berries and lean meats on a show like this, but I guess not.

[@jonajo9757]

@@evamiller4886 Kinda sucks they gave them skimpy versions of early clothing. Based from what I know, it goes from head to toe, and that they lived in tents, some form of hut probably, and so on. Even sucks more since we have to realize hunting played a large role in survival. Not only that, but I think they could cook up meals by boiling? Like, if they had a clay pot...?

[@sanxxxx]

@@jonajo9757 Yeah, hunting was a huge thing but most of the calories came from people gathering berries and vegetables. They should have pretty healthy food instead of kitchen scraps.

[@TheHalcyonTwilight]

This part really infuriated me, but thankfully shortly after showing that, it became clear in this video that it was a complete shitshow, so it added to the hilarity. Like, I could provide a laundry list of the actual ways Neolithic humans lived and how they made their homes comfortable, warm, and arguably ate a far more varied diet in terms of biodiversity than our modern diet of about 4 animals, 3 grains, and a select few vegetables. I could do that, but why plan to retile the roof when the whole house is about to collapse?

[@EvelynDayless]

"They had whole fish in the past" -Jenny Nicholson

[@FrecklesHasAQuestionMark]

I love the "sending in a woman against Frank because they thought she'd be better in terms of speed and agility" thing, like real life abides by fighting game character design rules

[@Anna-hb4uy]

I’d love to see a show like this where the contestants unionize and turn on the host. They say they refuse to eliminate anyone because of the inhumane conditions

[@LunatheMoonDragon]

Well, they all signed intense legal contracts before going into this, so it's not like they're just random people, sadly. They may be able to leave the show early (and likely not get paid), but they definitely can't "unionize" and force the show to change how it's run just because they want to.

[@Anna-hb4uy]

@@LunatheMoonDragon ah you’re right, contracted workers can’t really unionize in a literal, legal sense. I guess I just meant they all agree to turn against the host. But then the show probably just wouldn’t have aired

[@DaLatinKnight]

​@@Anna-hb4uy and so suddenly, all of us just tied the host to a raft and sent him off into the dark water. What we didn't know was the cameraman was recording the whole time and chose to keep it in the show!

[@solas6342]

"Yeah, I have to have surgery" "How do you feel about that, man?" Spit my coffee everywhere

[@deannas2778]

😂🤣

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

"I feel great about it! I have attention addiction and severe Münchhausen-Syndrom！"

[@dannybeeblebrox754]

When your reality tv show that's supposed to reflect society basically just ends up being a metaphor for privilege... The person who won was someone who was always set up to win. He was set up to win both because he never experienced a lack of resources and also because all the tests selected for things he was good at. The people who started on the Epoch side almost only ever experienced scarcity and this continual exposure was rooted partially in the fact that they started from a place of disadvantage. Each time they lost it made it more likely for them to lose because they would be worn down physically, and the challenges were almost exclusively physical. Almost like how people who are born into poverty often struggle to escape it, not because they're lazy or stupid but because they fundamentally lack necessary resources...

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Just the Worst This show is just a perfect little comedy of errors, isn’t it? It’s so inept that it’s PROFOUND.

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

Just the Worst Holy shit your right. This show is so stupid that it wraps around and becomes genius

[@judeannethecandorchannel2153]

I know nothing about this but your comment sounds informative

[@politicallycorrectredskin796]

I feel as if you're just repeating the content of this video in an unfunny way while projecting personal political views onto it.

[@rainbowLethargia]

Fishslap 33 personal political views? Ahaha that’s just how society actually works

[@Sophie-nz9fz]

here for my monthly rewatch of every single one of jenny's videos because I miss her

[@rockinsockmonkey8033]

As a native of New Orleans, I'd love to know why the producers never researched the weather here. Every year there are days in winter that get to the 30s. And the humidity makes it feel as though the air is frozen. When I went to DC for college, it was much more dry, and 10° there felt like 30° in Nola.

[@littleferrhis]

This seems like a black mirror torture episode.

[@sanderflop]

"you don't get to eat for 24 hours"

[@Giganfan2k1]

littleferrhis lmao

[@ArcturusOTE]

Isn't Black Mirror that new Brit Sci-fi anthology series? Like Twilight Zone, but British....er, right?

[@lilsnugglymane8910]

That player will be *"SAFELY"* hoisted up into the air

[@arthurviegas7671]

Lil Snuggly Mane oh my god, I was reading this comment the moment the guy said that

[@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf]

It's Krusty the Clown's bestest friend in the whole wide world *"Mr. Black"*

[@lamotrigine200mg7]

ur username is really good

[@deffdefying4803]

@@melxb Yeah, suffering is extremely entertaining... especially when the competition itself is extremely biased Thrilling.

[@PlotFirst]

This is actually my favorite of Jenny’s videos. I literally cannot stop laughing as I watch. I love when she does in-depth analyses of obscure and pitiable things.

[@DodgeDart]

Same, which is why four years later I am still rewatching it. 😅

[@TheHadMatters]

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[@sha2424]

When Charles got tackled off of the platform, for a *moment* i was completely unbothered. i was like, yeah that's the move. avoid the taser thing entirely by just knocking your opponent directly into the water. perfect. seen that on plenty of game shows. . . . . . . and then THERE WASN'T ANY WATER!!!!!! and i was like oh . . . *fuck* this show is going to be *seriously* awful.

[@FullThrottlePod]

I love how both Steve and someone who knows steve personally are in the comments talking about this show.

[@OtterMunchy]

It seems real...do we know if it was real?

[@cam4636]

@@OtterMunchy Do we know if anything is ever real?

[@OtterMunchy]

@@cam4636 giggle! Nope! The murkiness makes things more interesting!

[@GatesOfAvalon1]

You better believe that the show didn't pay for Charle's surgery, either. I feel for him so badly as someone who shattered an ankle and severed my Achilles tendon a few years back. You never really recover, it affects you heavily for the rest of your life. I still wear a leg brace and can't work in most places. Having to cover the expenses yourself while still injured is hell without help.

[@washedblue]

that is infuriating to find out. I guess contestants signed a waver for that kind of a thing, but the show was hot garbage and unethical to begin with so you'd think the least they could do is pay for his medical bills that were caused by their shoddy production. I'm surprised he didn't sue tbh even if just to pay off the bills - I think there'd be a case there. the losers didn't even get an inexpensive simple reward after having dealt with being on this kind of a show. I mean, nobody's surprised and that's reality TV for you but I hope the guy is doing alright now. wishes for the best to you too, OP.

[@rubberwoody]

If they didn't I would sue hard. The fact the cushions weren't in place is textbook negligence.

[@1tylerq127]

@@washedblue according to Steve, the guy pelted with tomatoes (check the pinned comment chain for this), they just didn't think of it in time. Another comment mentioned the statute of limitations there for personal injury claims runs out after a year and aside from that, the company producing OW shut down shortly after the end of season 1

[@IshtarNike]

Why do people ever participate in dangerous activities in a country without universal healthcare. I mean, what the fuck?!?!

[@cernunnos8917]

Imagine going through a war mostly physically unscathed and then suffering a debilitating, life-altering injury the first day you join a shitty reality show.

[@BorgManGroup]

“To lose him in this experience was terrible for me because that was my crutch”. if you take the sentence literally it sounds like the man really took his crutch

[@shanc4696]

I feel like knocking over the maze should count as a loss. It was supposed to be a maze not dominoes. A dog show contestant would definitely lose for doing that.

[@sam_rutledge]

“You have been eliminated” *“Awesome”*

[@JuliaHap]

I feel like frank had some kind of life threatening disease and his dying wish was to win a game show so the whole show was designed to be in his favor

[@karaflores5092]

Julia_aaa ye

[@christinar4683]

so basically Opposite Worlds predicted Squid Game

[@carpengizmat5978]

"I'm ready to go. If it's a dude or a girl, I'm ready. I'm always ready, it's what I live for." Catch me making this my tinder bio

[@greygoose8803]

bicon 😍

[@olliefoxx7165]

A hole is a hole for the no standard crew. 😒

[@carpengizmat5978]

@@olliefoxx7165 it's true, the no standard crew got together last week and declared this our official motto

[@olliefoxx7165]

@@carpengizmat5978 Well, you have a motto and that's kind of a standard. Baby steps!

[@eliscore]

Letting Frank participate in the physical challenges is like starting a Pokemon game with a Box Legendary