The Wrestler feat. David J. Roth | Chapo Trap House

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Episode 775 - The Wrestler feat. David J. Roth (10/23/23)
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Art/Animation by Emily Halaka @emilyhalaka
David J. Roth joins us this week as we continue discussing the relatively limp and unconvincing propaganda emerging around the Israel-Gaza war. Then, David gives us his review of “Moneyball” Michael Lewis’ new book on Sam Bankman-Fried, and we take a look at a new Washington Post piece chronicling Jim Jordan’s career arc from college wrestling champion to almost-Speaker of the House.
David’s review of Going Infinite is here: nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/...
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[@A_____F_____P_____and_____C]

Our boy's out the hospital. Jah bless. ❤

[@Mutakaliim]

Alhamdulillah!

[@jingbot1071]

The Russkies couldn't get him.

[@julymagnus493]

God's plan.

[@mommysmilkshake5779]

Wallahi he is not finished 🙏

[@totonow6955]

Gaia smiles on Matt

[@fightthepowerman]

Glad to hear that Matt is ok and might be immortal.

[@danny2x42]

Thank god Matt’s out of the hospital and in the facility to get his cool cyborg parts

[@freakyzed8467]

We have yet to witness the true power of his Final Form!!!!

[@chrisbuchanan8579]

the bong hit transplant was a success

[@macnsteez3938]

Matt has left the hospital, and entered The Silo

[@thomasgiles2876]

I hope Matt gets to have that fatherly moment where he makes eye contact with his child, she smiles at him, he smiles back, then yeets her into the sky.

[@BigHomieGayAss1917]

Her first words are the Nick Mullen gay Chinese guy bit

[@wesshiflet2214]

@@BigHomieGayAss1917”what if a gay guy was Chinese?”

[@HummusWorld]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@DawryMike]

Gotta show her the duality of a special operator

[@blackdog9698919]

David Roth is one of my favorite Chapo guests. Always awesome to have him in an episode.

[@cornerstore_d]

He's great. Some of the best eps. Wish I gave a shit about sports

[@johnlewtas6833]

please more of david roth. he's such a great addition to the chemistry of the show and offers fantastic insights at the same time.

[@jschnabes13]

Absolutely yes, he probably my favorite reoccurring Chapo guest. God forbid Matt isn't able to return to the show, he would be my first choice as new 3rd host if they decide to keep it going.

[@russlcorey]

The point of political activism is to teach people that revolution is necessary by showing them the futility of reform

[@comradeghostboi7989]

best if paired with distributing knowledge and resources as to how to revolt

[@CarlyonProduction]

Really glad to hear the good news about Matt. Big love ❤

[@hyperionman420]

She call me Jerry Orbach the way i get Tactical

[@karlhungus2335]

very glad to hear about our big boy matt

[@josefsellersknecht]

Fire up them grills, boys. Much love...

[@vantam4n]

my only salvation during this night shift, bless

[@numskul]

With you on that

[@lukeguilfoyle2425]

Same here brother

[@thomasstuart1441]

Be strong. You are the real heroes.

[@ugliestjbfan4040]

Thank you Sam Fisher

[@Buuuuurrrrp123]

Graveyard shift gang

[@warweasel2330]

Around 45 minutes in, Will does the Trump impression that Matt always does so well, and it really hit me how much I miss him here.

[@davidhill2020]

54:20 Their attitude is "how could I have let this happen?" This feeds into the "maybe it was my fault" feeling that a lot of victims have, often exacerbated by hearing, "what did you do to make this happen" from other people. It's not great.

[@wickerbathtub3183]

Happy to hear Matt is on the mend. Speedy recovery good sir.

[@BigHomieGayAss1917]

The news about Matt leaving the hospital has left me felling gay and Chinese. Congrats Matt

[@Shimansaji]

Hell yeah dude!

[@kazumahazeuzumaki]

How many have you felled? You friggin' psycho.

[@galedribble9535]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@Kcoldraz]

Great news🎉🎉🎉. Hope Matt gets well soon 🙏

[@Bansell262]

Out of hospital. That’s great. I was worried.

[@rawbebaba]

You know i had just seen the initial polling on the issue, and it kinda put me into a depression. I felt like i saw a lot of people supporting Palestine, but just thought that was like you know being around only left wing media and people. But its good to see the response in the streets and from regular people has at least got me hopeful for yhe future.

[@stewfu]

Rest up & Bless up, Matt! Miss hearing your perspectives.. ❤️🙏🏾💯

[@Robot_Eva]

It's disgusting to think that these are the people in power

[@Lucas-wn3te]

Bro it's chill, they just host a podcast

[@Robot_Eva]

​@@Lucas-wn3tenot the chapo boys you fool, the people the chapo boys talk about

[@cocojumbo412]

Congratulations on are big beautiful boy Matthew Christmas for his recovery from his totally normal health issue

[@pr1mu]

The abe simpson call out was f'ing amazing

[@macnsteez3938]

Seeing David Roth got a literal "fuck yeah" out loud from me. Let's goo

[@markmaurer6370]

Being of an age with these boys, I was a senior in HS on 9/11, I can agree with their observations. Only I was a music major (oops!) so I don't remember much protesting in the first year.

[@AwesometownUSA]

same - I was a senior in HS on 9/11. I was vaguely tuned into politics on an adult level but I didn’t really get active until my first year of college (when the state, media, and reactionaries all around me were fervently beating the drum for Iraq). I failed almost all my courses my first two semesters bc I was skipping class to attend any/all protests along the east coast… I didn’t have any misgivings though; I knew there was no stopping the Iraq train, but protesting was all I could do to stave off the feeling of powerlessness :\

[@RIP_Greedo]

I was talking to a friend about the Lewis/SBF book and he had an interesting meta-reading. In 2021, one of Michael Lewis's adult children died in a car crash. He would have been building his relationship with SBF and writing the book during this time, and the book kind of gives the impression that Lewis sees SBF as a kid he can be father figure to. As Gus Haynes of the Wire Season 5 would say, Lewis got absolutely took by SBF. But there is another layer to it, for sure.

[@fkrkf]

39:35 when i first got on Adderall at 31 i was finally able to keep a schedule without wanting to die. I was up at 6:15am every morning and in bed, lights out by 11:00pm. It was glorious to be able to get so much accomplished in a day without feeling like i was about to pass out at any second but i couldn't go more than a day without sleep. My dude Dave is thinking of meth, not addies

[@bmscarecrow.]

If you don't have ADHD or some other dopamine disorder and you take Adderall it has a different effect. Normally giving you a bunch of energy, I was given something similar to it and I literally couldn't sleep for like two days.

[@robbyf5522]

“Wacked on adderall” not taking a prescription dose. If you overdo it you’ll be zooted

[@dinkaboutit4228]

And... were you consuming these adderall in the manner prescribed by your doctor, or were you smashing up five at a time and shoving them straight up your nose?

[@twistedoperator4422]

Matt will rise more powerful than ever before!

[@Will_Moffett]

Or he will retire and it will take us the rest of our lives to catch up on his output to date.

[@kingbertron420]

im gonna start pounding gallons of starbucks now

[@feydrautha012]

Ordering a Starbucks coffee, telling the barista that my name is "Free Parking."

[@Mark-jr6ld]

Don't talk to me before I've had my blooooood.

[@Abuhan47]

I want to go to Starbucks wearing a shemagh and camouflage and ask them for a medium Jewish blood.

[@ttttypes]

🇵🇸

[@brandonhill8283]

Free Palestine

[@supersantiago]

I wish a speedy recovery to our large adult son!

[@jamesrooney7865]

Excellent episode, one of Felix's best for colour commentary and context

[@stefanoalves8862]

50:30 It doesn't really apply to Jim Jordan, but helpfully Hastert did it first. I imagine before every single spar in training he does the Kurt Angle promo about Rey Mysterio being a boy in a men's world and that he's a man who loves playing with little boys.

[@Smeghead1312]

Get well, Matt. We love you, brother.

[@noranoxica]

56:24 Sounds like some 1800 Vegetarianism shit. He's gonna start quoting Marry Baker Eddy next

[@BiancaTallarico]

One blood soy latte please!

[@danielfitzgerald-dk5em]

Feel better Matt! Happy to hear your progressing!

[@dinkaboutit4228]

I like this podcast. I wish I had heard of it earlier (yes, it's a rock, yes, I live here). It's like Cumtown + class + literacy.

[@slickstufneatstuf]

How are you these days Virgil?

[@balsosnell2064]

“Class” 😂

[@jacobmittel2925]

Al Gore rhythm

[@jonnyglobster]

Great to her the good news about Matt! ❤

[@radicalmarxist9909]

You should make the guest a permanent member. He’s like a perfect replacement for Virgil. XD

[@jjsc4396]

All the best Matt 👍🏼❤️

[@KarmaPaym3ntPlan]

21:10 👀 anyway

[@mjglan]

Tactical Jerry Orbach

[@pablomoreno1206]

Surprised by how much you guys know about wrestling

[@willsladich9482]

Felix is famously a big fighting sports guy

[@theentity975]

from the river to the sea..

[@THX11458]

So glad to hear Matt is doing better!!

[@cornerstore_d]

Sociologists who study religion say that near death experiences and having a child are the 2 biggest life moments that cause people to seek faith. Cant wait to see what kind of guru our boy becomes. Bless up !

[@joshuamarx8209]

Man are you behind the presses... Everyone knows Matt is a Gnostic Christian-Buddhist..

[@berdyderg900]

Literally a pseudoscientific field full of self-important idiots

[@mj.l]

@@berdyderg900lol social sciences aren’t pseudoscience 🤡 religions love preying on people in their most vulnerable moments, and when there are children involved 👁️

[@Will_Moffett]

Too bad we are in an era where everyone is their own amateure sociologist who dont know the discipline of sociology exists.

[@gabasonichu]

I've been eating only Butter Burger for Mack Chex-Mix, regardless of my kidney failure, and I'd like to think I'm partially responsible for "Tactical Jerry Orbach."

[@OmnomnomPancake]

OUR BIG CUSH BOY IS ASCENDENT. But for real, the Cushbombs were a light for me in these dark fucking days. Losing Matt woulda been just the biggest barge of bullshit.

[@ttttypes]

Jesse Ventura for president

[@lauraloveless5790]

I just got here. But with that title, I really do hope they talk about wrestling.

[@GrantLeeEdwards]

Lewis’s daughter died in a car wreck a couple years ago. My theory is that he’s subconsciously treating SBF as like his kid or maybe a nephew & he feels like he has to find meaning & not profile a thoughtless criminal. Otherwise I got nothing. So weird. Read it & had to look twice at the cover to make sure I bought the right book. Wtf

[@oc3264]

Glad to hear that Matt is out of the hospital, that's great news.

[@BrittishAnger]

🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@lucasmurphy740]

Did they ever say what Matt was dealing with? Or is it private? Good to hear he’s out

[@colinwritesthings7445]

They haven't given details and have asked people to keep the speculation to themselves. I'm sure they'll speak on it eventually once it's more clear what Matt's path is.

[@condor237]

He overdosed to avoid spending time with his wife

[@RIP_Greedo]

Complications from chad surgery

[@kaiserkonnigratzer1528]

He was finally held accountable

[@janosmarothy5409]

complications from having a huge salene enorged hog

[@Luminousreign]

One of my intensive coaches for summer wrestling was a gold medalist, and I remember thinking it was perfectly normal that a few months after he won someone tried to citizen’s arrest him for being uncontrollably coked out. Financial crimes are just dumb wrestling guys trying to do the thing to get ahead and I still think that is justifiable.

[@mattgilbert7347]

"Liar's Poker" goes so hard.

[@tomrobbins5242]

Southwest Asia us bases are about to get swamped.

[@feydrautha012]

I'm wondering what the logistics are going to be for the US if they manage to enrage the Arab states, and put Turkey in a position (due to civil unrest otherwise) that they can't act as a launching point for US air strikes/ground forces. Try to operate everything from the navy and Israel+the Greek part of Cyprus and whatever long-range support they can launch from Djibouti?

[@AnwarKarimi-tc1xg]

Love you Matt. Inshallah you will be fine.

[@primarypadma1591]

🖤

[@pauldemelto6650]

Felix is the one who will get into trouble at some point.

[@berdyderg900]

Doubt it, Virgil turned out to just be a pedophile

[@con4609]

❤Matt ❤

[@totonow6955]

❤❤❤❤ Matt❤❤❤❤

[@Fabian080690]

♥

[@SUPERBURLBOYROY]

I filmed a war protest in madison. Im posting the whole thing on my channel.

[@ross4]

That's nice but we need to actually show up like you did. Watching the video aint gonna do nothing

[@SUPERBURLBOYROY]

@ross4 it's 5.3k go pro footage and I get harrased by women through most of it.

[@2intheampm512]

​@@SUPERBURLBOYROYWere they hot?

[@SUPERBURLBOYROY]

@2intheampm512 no

[@Gum_Cuzzler]

@@SUPERBURLBOYROYDamn dude, that sucks

[@madelinekrane3200]

❤❤

[@idylan505]

LETS GOOOOOO

[@mattl6459]

❤

[@randallpatton6455]

Best wishes to Matt and family

[@valentinchappa6702]

No sound?

[@ross4]

Just you

[@invinciblep2010]

What happened to Matt no one will say exactly the what happened .

[@Christopher-gp9iv]

I want you to imagine that you had a serious health emergency and then every one of your closest friends started pulling out your med chart every podcast episode to give rubes a rundown on how fucked up your body is lmao what happened is that Matt had a health emergency but seems to be okay now, that's all you need to know. Anything else is weird parasocial self-preservation shit because you want to compare how likely it is to happen to you too.

[@bsh819]

@@Christopher-gp9iv Eh, no, they could just want to know more cause, you know, they're concerned for Matt. It's not weird at all to be interested in more details, nor is it weird at all for the boys to withhold them. Chill out.

[@poolfuhrer]

@@bsh819 it's none of your business

[@bsh819]

​@@poolfuhrer Did I fucking say it was? Did I even say I was personally interested? I said it's a normal human reaction and pathologizing it is stupid. Which it is.

[@SqueakyClips]

I get that it’s natural to want to know more details, but Matt and Amber live pretty private lives outside of podcasting. When she had pregnancy complications that was the most they were comfortable disclosing publicly, just “complications”. I can respect that.

[@Kcoldraz]

What does that mean? What does it mean to be an anvil or a hammer?

[@maxwellingtonperez4882]

You either hit or get hit

[@Kcoldraz]

That's a weird way to say a hunter and prey metaphor. Since anvil and hammer are complementary items. One is a sturdy base you need to stabilize the metal and other is the tool to shape it.

[@utkarsh2746]

​@@KcoldrazHunter and prey is a different equation. An anvil absorbs the hit and the hammer deals it out.

[@Kcoldraz]

@@utkarsh2746 So it's about being stoic and being kinetic? And not Doing something and getting something done to you.

[@lucasmurphy740]

@@Kcoldrazyou’re really overthinking it

[@Polarcutter]

Start calling him Joey the chins..

[@joshlee6073]

Hey dere liver lips

[@haleyperson4415]

Trump 2020 🙄 WE told you so.....

[@speed0spank]

lol

[@foundationchicago6908]

Im just here for the awful incorrect facts and mischaracterizations of mma fighters and wrestlers 😂 Askren did make the Olympics, and he - like so many other wrestlers - is famous for his excuse makers

[@user-ll1yr6kw6s]

first

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Israel has a right to defend itself

[@RobHel]

dude, again... for the love of all the gods out there! Take. Your. Meds. and please, stop schitzoposting!

[@rickkroll]

Nah dude youre absolutely not welcome here. Go back to Destiny and Vaush😂

[@rickkroll]

So Palestine for sure has a right to defend itself after 40 years of this right?

[@LightSpinAngler]

Agreed

[@GrimReader]

Sure does doesn't have the right to genocide folks though

[@johnrangel2226]

How many people are protesting because they love Palestinians and how many because they hate Jews?

[@yogidevendrabiriyani1777]

1000% former

[@yogidevendrabiriyani1777]

Ppl who hate Jews dont protest. Stop obsessing over your own antisemitism and projecting?

[@ZeDoGiCa]

poo poo pee pee

[@johnrangel2226]

@@yogidevendrabiriyani1777 "People who hate Jews don't protest"? From nazis to proud boys they protest. I am not anti semite, I am anti bombing children. Both sides are wrong. How many dead babies took part in those decisions that led to this?

[@user-vh5pr8lo1x]

doesn't matter.

[@whentheleveebreaks4732]

Shout out to Matt. I’m gay af

[@JVSCant]

💜

[@jvladcliff4083]

❤