The Yamaha R1 vs a GSX1400 (by 6Tdegrees)

[@1Quick6]

The old 1400's going to hurt some feelings at the lights

[@Taniwha351]

I can't describe how much I loved this vidjeo. I've had my 1400 for 5 years and it's the best bike I'VE ever ridden. With the Bride and a weeks worth of luggage, 6gear acceleration is still stupid quick. On the weekends with the boys in the twisties, no problem keeping up with thier R1s, ZX10, GSX-Rs, CBR1000s. The boys on Speed Triples, Brutales, Tuonos, S1000rrs and 1098s, well lets just say I never have to wait for my coffee to be made. 🤣🤣 Ride safe Y'all.

[@optimuspower9716]

The gsx1400 is my dream bike! You were a lucky guy!

[@Taniwha351]

@@optimuspower9716 Were? Brother, I still am! I'll never sell The Express. Coming up on seven years of ownership. They're getting rare-ish but they do come up for sale on the reg. Unless you live in the USA. Then you're S.o.L.😁

[@optimuspower9716]

@@Taniwha351 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 you're right!!! Please keep enjoying that engineering masterpiece!! Drive safely my man!!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@kevinhancock4064]

I've had money since 2007 fab bikes

[@kevinhancock4064]

Mine I meant not money lol

[@unclebob919]

That is why i love my GSX 1400 Final edition

[@almostthere246]

Always guessed it, but glad someone took the time to actually do it. Torque vs HP is a long standing dispute for those who don't get it. Kudos to the old GSX 1400 for holing it's own. Great video guys.

[@ringspanner]

Love my 14, never fails to bring a smile to my dial

[@Amehravaran]

I would like to see GSX 1400 vs CB 1300

[@ErnestScribbler]

The 1400 also wins in the comfy seat department. When i had one back in about 2003 it really was the dogs bollocks, people used to look at the 1400 badge and go that's bigger than my car. The only down side was watching the fuel gauge getting empty when you were having some fun, i always tried to get into top gear as soon as possible. It would pull away from 30mph in top gear very easily i'd quite happily have another one tomorrow.

[@theaaronedward]

You guys have been killing it with the content lately!! well done lads :D

[@earthtrekker1]

Love the look of the Suzuki 1400, so classic, wouldn't mind seeing a 2003 Suzuki GSXR1000 vs. A Kawasaki ZZR1400, great video by the way👍

[@janneman550]

Proud of my 1400.... never gonna sell it...

[@korneelvh3837]

exact what i was thinking

[@Usual57]

Yes !!

[@lowarthog7860]

Its very beautiful for a street type

[@shekarwali6289]

That r1 looks so good

[@twistn-grips]

That's correct, torque also talks!!! HP is BORING!!! I mean it's of course a necessary number, but IMO, that's ALL it is. Torque, on the other hand, is what REAL street and daily riders want. Lol. WTF am I gonna do with a 200+hp bike on my way to work??? Or on my weekend fookery??? Give me a naked bike that wheelies every time I pull the throttle from 1st to 4th and I'm in heaven.

[@TheCodexNecro]

Fully agree. It was my main decision for opting for the big upright naked. Bags of real world torque, can accelerate way past a ton in mere seconds, plus it's not made of plastic.

[@Coltnz1]

HP is what you boast about. Torque is what you ride all day.

[@TheCodexNecro]

R1 is a toy. GSX14 is a beautiful machine. Always get compliments on mine.

[@paolorienzi]

🔥❤

[@davidm1563]

Any chance of you boys doing some more reviews on naked bikes? I'd love to see your thoughts on the two Triumph street triples (R & RS) compared to their big brother Speed Triple or even the MT-07 HO compared to MT-09.

[@6tdegrees]

David M see what we can do ;) so fare we are working on the Royal Enfield review and triumph scrambler 1200 & 900

[@davidm1563]

6Tdegrees ohhh that new 1200 does look the goods actually!

[@tomstc]

Love how my big 14 pulls!

[@zumbi1979]

Vmax vs busa?

[@6tdegrees]

Ooooo now that would be a test I want to see!!

[@TheCodexNecro]

@michael wills I was a pillion on the back of a full power Vmax. Let me say, I shouldn't be here today and from that day on, I insisted on grabbing hold of the rider. Hahaha!

[@Flip01]

Interesting video guys. From the title of the video I thought the R1 against the Kawasaki zx14r! I'll be watching out for these big bore nakeds from now on. 👍

[@1990-t1j]

I'd like to have seen an MT-01 in this contest, too.

[@somerandomaussie]

pretty much the reason i chose a xjr1300 over a supersport so much comfier on long journeys and torque wherever you twist the throttle

[@Jandejongjong]

I like the power in low refs, more fun and lower bill when cought

[@ThePafko90]

That's why I love my GSX 1400 - old, crude, big and powertorque bike *,* But the R1 is also amazing - little advanced squirrel drilling rpm's on the track fields -,^

[@ThePafko90]

@@LandyVlad_Rides I'm already there

[@sanoj1969]

Totally agree. I am also an Gsx 1400 owner.

[@alibaba02121996]

You can rev the R1 up to 11k prm and slip the clutch until the rpms match the road speed and use the torque multiplication from that to give you more mechanical advantage and therefore greater acceleration. Admittedly that takes significantly more skill to do as any error would lead to a bog or wheelie slowing you down. Bikes with more torque tend to be harder to stall and therefore launch. All things considered if wheelying is the factor that limits acceleration the bike with the longer wheelbase and or more forward biased centre of gravity should win.

[@synkuk]

You could see from the vid the wheelie control was already kicking in on the R1... the 14 would literally always win .. longer , heavier .. WAY more torque lower down ... just horses for courses .. nothing more .. dont get outta shape about it .. sam as both are shit offroad :D:D

[@GSXMAN04]

Great video the old beast done well

[@ur2slob724]

Good stuff mate Can I suggest a 1000cc shootout ? But an older one vs a newer one? Say a 09 Big Bang r1. Vs newer one? Or a gsxr k5 vs l1-l6 ? Thanks

[@kwesto03]

Gotta love the big old 1400, how about the GSX1400 up against a CB1300

[@TheCodexNecro]

@Mike W No doubt about it. The CB is just better built. I would have bought the Honda if it looked as good as the GSX.

[@JoseRodriguez-mp1bl]

I have a 2018 R1 and I have to say I love that 1400 Suzuki. Damn that old school bike is bad ass for what it is and the mileage it has. That one tough old mo fo 😂 my hats off to the Suzuki.

[@hardtarget2359]

That's not old. Old is 30yrs (1 generation) or older. I bet my 2000 ZRX 1100 would keep up with that Suz and its carbonated!

[@ringspanner]

@@hardtarget2359 Carbonated Reflux Aeration Performance (CRAP) is a fantastic system lol

[@martinheffernan4897]

Love both of mine, keepers for sure!

[@youtubed9695]

Completely understand what your saying.. I own a 2018 aprilia tuono v4 factory and a 2000 Honda sp1 and I know the aprilia is miles faster and more powerful but yet I do identical times at the drag strip lol.. the sp1 I just go full throttle but tuono I have to manage the power and wheelies.. I wasn't surprised at all of your results I've ridden both bikes in your video and I found the r1 lacking in torque below 8k especially compared to my aprilia.. don't get me wrong still love the r1 but torque is where it's at on the road ;)

[@motomat2]

I've a 2002 ,14 with stage one turbo 200rwp and 150ft/lb longer arm . Would be interested against anything. No wizardry.

[@kyleellis3537]

I think there is also weight at play.. for example a stretched swingarm and the ability to actually use some of that avalable power would leave the 14 behind. So torque may not be the key contribution to this race.. more gearing, weight and geometry. But thats my opinion

[@6tdegrees]

Same could be said for the 14 if you applied the same modification.

[@kyleellis3537]

@@6tdegrees i agree but stock for stock you can use alot more potential power from the 14. Where as the 1000 can't use any until it can maintain traction or keep the front down. The torque Is useful but not at all what slows down the 1000. Maybe in a high gear roll. But with a first gear that can do 100mph or 160kph in first and still easily lift the front off the line standing starts, torque doesnt seem to be the issue. But as i said this is just my opinion. I ride a 1300 hayabusa and a l2 gsxr1000.

[@kyleellis3537]

@@6tdegrees so with what you said yes stock for stock the 14 obveously wins i just didnt particularly agree with the reason why haha sorry not trying to argue just maybe shine light one a different way of thinking is all

[@trucknessmonster4333]

Nice vid guys! Any chance of replacing the R1 with an MT-10 and see how much closer it is?

[@barryleneuf590]

Love my 2004 1400.

[@coolquitepowerful]

Now I know why suzuki never released a IHI turbo motorcycle

[@justinporetta1803]

I wanna see the r1 vs a kawi 1400r

[@matyxcz]

No replacement for displacement. Had GSX1400, it's a loco on steroids. Thinking about buyin' one again, to second my current Z900 in the garage, and use it as a "power/distance-"sporty_ish"-cruiser". MY 2005-2006 for less than 1/2 of the price of "modern retro" such as Speed Twin, Z900RS etc., with around 30-40k on speedo (which is no hassle for that engine). But would tune it up - replace springs, shocks, exhaust system, brakes (completely), and do a little retro bodywork to make it more comfortable on long highway trips (something like the first 1984 Kawa Ninja, but with circular headlight ;-))

[@jamesambrocio]

There's no replacement for displacement.

[@neuropsychotic1840]

Torque Talks .No replacement for displacement

[@HondaBassInYourFace]

Could we see a Ducati 1299 vs the gsx1400?

[@xicx]

I confirm that only Ducati over 900cc is a problem! Neither Kawa NINJA nor YAMAHA R1 even at BMW 1000rr. My mine has 4 degree advance timing, YOSHI ST1, PCV with AUTOTUNE, copy evacuation Yoshi Cyclone 4-2-2 and big injectors CDH-275 Bosch 300cc 97-04 Yamaha 150 Marine 300cc/min. internal fuel filter MANN-FILTER WK 69/1 with teflon pipe.

[@ev_an_8898]

Be surprised the 1400 can still boogie up the mountains also :)

[@Bare36]

Gsx is a beast.it is also extremly durable and reliable bike.88 000kms is nothing for that bike...

[@spencersmith7266]

I can confirm - mine has done 113,000Kms and still pulls like a train!

[@Bare36]

@@spencersmith7266 they go well over 250 000kms without any trouble. 😉

[@Taniwha351]

There's a dude in Brisbane managed 312,000km before a maintenance oversight caught up with him and grenaded the engine. Cam chain went apparently.

[@bubonikus]

With the GSX, you don't fear to see the front wheel up to the clouds, so......Full throttle !!

[@Jamboliner]

I have hurt some feelings at the lights with my 1400! In the comfort of my sofa!

[@FourThreeSeven]

Basically the only thing it can do better than the R1 is get to 100m.

[@Bare36]

Basically only thing that r1 can do is to be fast

[@markewing10]

I think it’s more comfortable on long trips.

[@steffenandres3185]

Would be fun to test the r1 aginst my GSX 1550 with 155hp / 160nm😁 I think the r1 has no chance to th 250m mark.

[@carmagnolefrederic7668]

Surprise : après comme il le dit, o, sait très bien que la R1 est plus performantes, mais ce petit test d'accélération courte distance dévoile le couple.

[@okiefreemen]

jeeze i think kawaski copied this thing with the Z900rs more than the 1972 Zed,

[@brno221973]

I wish I’d never sold my 1400, love my new bike but the 1400 was a bit special & for a 15 year old bike it still turned heads, usually because it was so damn loud.😂😂

[@TheCodexNecro]

I actually get random car drivers slowing down to a stop at the lights next to me just to compliment. The GSX is the only bike I've had where I consistently get people admiring it. Mainly older people.

[@evlogig]

pls, check GSX1400 vs bmw R1200R if possible.. :-O

[@scottlochans4180]

That's exactly why I preferred my nearly new KAWA. GT750, over my nearly new Kawa.750 turbo. GT was always as quick, as needed, turbo ?, you had to seek the turbo WOOSH, heard first production bike any size, to do the Standing quarter mile in 10 seconds, mine did 161mph. No bike Kawasaki for 27 years, March 19 got a very very healthy 05 GSF Bandit 650 inj. W.T.F. ?, AS my PhD Master's Degree, in Bandit Torque Enjoyment only, nothing technical, taught me, sod top end speeds, ALL ABOUT THE ACCELERATION, Throttle response?, QUICKER than an Arcade game, Quickly over 80 mph, before the red line???, in 2nd gear. 4th gear, 6,500rpm 92mph, true speed 89mph. Red lines at 12,000rpm. WHAT NO WHAT NO WHAT,yes. Such a joy, at least 58, 59 times more biking joy than the turbo, and the turbo was very special. Sincerely Scott Loch. No Professor Bandit B.T.E. out. ps. Sadly now a semi retired Banditateer fekkin Banditaholic, ruined for any other bike, and I ain't even lying.

[@0Oo..oO0]

The R1 is not a drag bike. Take it to the track?

[@ButchE30M3S14]

Sean Paul Alejandro You would be surprised. On a small technical track the GSX owns the R1. Trust me, I know.

[@levig-man4103]

Truly a sleeper

[@Voyagerss77]

Oh wow What a beauty the Suzuki gsx 1400 is, that is what I call a bike!!!! Awesome ...

[@mikenason4813]

In my opinion The GSX 1400 is Best all round bike ever made .

[@PoisonousPen]

Horsepower sells bikes, torque wins races ;)

[@screw66]

I'd rather choose GSX... that truck nM is far more important to me than final speed

[@dvsv88u]

“Dude, I almost had you”

[@6tdegrees]

dvsv88u 😂😂 “you never had me, you never had your bike”... “doesn’t matter if you win by inch or a mile!” “Winnings winning”

[@batsy_jr]

Torque output

[@noaharcinthiran7673]

R1 has the best face for a bike period

[@henrybrewer1083]

Vfr800f v gsx1400

[@scottlochans4180]

No bike, Kawasaki for 27 years, March 19 got a very very healthy 05 GSF Bandit 650inj.,at least 58, 59 times more biking joy, than in 84, my nearly new Kawa.750 turbo. The turbo was very special, but you had to seek out the turbo, enjoyed my GT 750 shaft drive, a bit more, than the turbo. 19, 20 months of BLESSED Bandit Time, Times, got a PhD Masters Degree, in Bandit Torque Enjoyment only, nothing technical. Sadly now a crazy Mad Banditateer, fekkin Banditaholic, ruined for any other bike. GSX1400, looks a lot of joyous fun, and as my B.T.E. Degree taught me, sod top end speeds, all about the Acceleration, throttle response ?, QUICKER than an Arcade game. Pennyless, but SHEET, Bandit's are the Best BIKES EVER, and I'm not even lying. Sincerely Scott Loch. Na, Professor Bandit B.T.E.650 inj., out.

[@bryanrothe4245]

94 zx11 fastest bike in the world from 1990 through 1995 vs any new 1000cc bike r1, gsx r1000,cbr1000rr,zx1000

[@andrewkennan2897]

My old Suzuki RG125 2stroke gamma vs today’s Suzuki GSXR125 4stroke I’m sure the my old 2 stroke would definitely win

[@Musician_Robert]

If that R1 rider gave it full throttle at the start while leaning over the tank, there would be a different result I think. The R1 front end would have lifted up while sitting up straight. Thats how you know he wasn't racing.

[@6tdegrees]

Robdrums Studios we tried that. Unfortunately it made no difference to the results.

[@Musician_Robert]

@@6tdegrees Then the 1400 obviously can hold its own to the R1 then - I would like to have seen that start off the line.

[@6tdegrees]

Robdrums Studios 1400 most certainly does, up until the 200m mark. Off the line was shown to have the R1 using its launch control system however I must condone the 1400 only took off at 2000rpm each time we ran this test, so really the riders on 1400 were not even trying.

[@vinjofin1972]

Try both bikes in 6th gear at 80 kph. R1 will see the rear light of the old lady.

[@cheddle88]

GSX1400 = 1,520 mm wheelbase R1 = 1,415 mm wheelbase its very little to do with the engine and VERY MUCH to do with the wheel base... Thats the real reason why this race goes the way it does. the R1 cant take advantage of its power until well over 150 km/h and thats easy to see from the trouble the R1 has keeping the wheel down while the GSX is just sailing away. If torque was the issue a clutch'ed launch from the R1 would change the result... but it wont! none the less. I LOVE the video!

[@mathewnewton314]

The R1 has no bottom end. You need to get it singing

[@0Oo..oO0]

Correct ... and by design. Anything under 4k rpm is abusing the engine, while whipping it up makes it sing like a song bird.

[@tomasandersson2182]

GSX 1400. The Gentel Giant...

[@canadapainter658]

come on now 1400cc vs 1000c,, you figure

[@hamdanae]

Why did Suzuki stop the gsx 1400, this monster need to be back

[@6tdegrees]

ahmed saleh Alafifi fuel emissions unfortunately ☹️

[@salg500]

Even on my bandit 1200 I pull on super bikes 40-85 mph after that im done lol

[@alphaomega3633]

Same as me lol. It's all about traffic light racing on my bandit 1200, although I did beat a gsxr 600 for some unknown reason and he also had a head start.

[@salg500]

@@alphaomega3633 600s aren't much of a challenge up until 110ish when they're in their power band. I can't ride Supersport bc I hate having to ring their neck to get any power out of them lol low down torque all day every day

[@donniemoto515]

So basically the GSX is only good if you’re racing to 100m?! 🤔who does that?! Considering a 1/4 mile is 400m...😑 plus when Yamaha made the R1 I don’t think they were thinking about drag racing or daily riding! I ride mine daily and it’s fucking horrible at it unless I’m cruising at 90mph or more. On the track or in the canyons though... mmmm happy place.

[@bapr3887]

100m racing is most common "duel" in streets to boost ego or damage somebody feelings.

[@fatherfreedom1946]

Who does that? Literally everyone

[@RADiesli.-]

super

[@openthepolice1922]

1400

[@steventhomson9869]

Try the GSX1400 against an MT09

[@6tdegrees]

Steven Thomson Yeah why not 👍

[@rompowertube]

An MT what?

[@amiyapanda3029]

R1 DRIVER IS SLOW TO TWIST THROTTLE

[@karlwalters3763]

Ha ha, no idea.

[@Terraceview]

I miss my..... 1400... not the R1

[@nutsaboutboltsrc4660]

Bandit 1250 Vs gsx1400

[@ErnestScribbler]

I used to own a GSF1200 then went to a GSX1400, the Bandit was a lighter bike and nice to ride but the 1400 is the one to have. It just had presence other bikes could only dream of. A real grand tourer though with white rims i used to spend more time cleaning it than riding it. Plus get some muscles for when you put it on it's centre stand it weighs in about 230KG.

[@andreashecht3045]

😊

[@hardtarget2359]

Kawi ZXR1100 or Ninja 1400 vs Suz GSX1400! That would be a good show!

[@josh786manchester]

So i guess R1 is crap ?

[@claydough18]

Suicide Boyz!!!!

[@ucss25]

Suzuki ur beautiful

[@alexlintern9779]

Yamaha R1 NOT SACSy enough LOL

[@和之-q7v]

これって何の意味があんの？

[@Harnishchappy]

i just bought an r1 2 days ago, big change from my mt07!

[@Taniwha351]

You ready for a 1400 yet? 🤣🤣