Injustice: Gods Among Us | Wasted Plotential

[@Rysuko1]

"You should let the characters and their personalities determine the plot, not the other way around." Speaking wisdom right there.

[@raw5889]

NettoPainter there’s nothing wrong with this concept. You just proved it could work.

[@jackalkin6757]

I even wrote that line down in my notebook to remind me every time, when I begin to go too far down the wrong path. Other than that, the quote is extremely clever.

[@mdrstudios7067]

And as well as have them accurately written to make them work.

[@danialtarki572]

Physics and Outside Supernatural Entities: **Waltz Of The Flowers begins playing**

[@patches2877]

Spicy opinion: The best "evil" Superman is Superman pretending to be evil during the end of Superman vs the Elite

[@The4thSnake]

Superman can come up with a better evil characterisation for himself than professional writers can.

[@dylanaroberts97]

The4thSnake LMFAO

[@meldrickedwards1464]

@Iron Giant I agree.

[@Jew_Gi_Oh]

The best "evil" versions of Superman is Soviet Communist Dictator Superman from Mark Millar's "Superman: Red Son" and Nazi Superman.

[@AmonRa_Stringer]

Imma give that to omni g

[@murrowboy]

Superman walking through the wall to hug Bruce... THAT, should have been in a movie... Any movie...

[@RadinV1]

Yeah but there would be no reason for batman to go to prison in a main universe movie.

[@PatRick-mq6ss]

Laughed hard at that

[@RadinV1]

@@PatRick-mq6ss why?

[@PatRick-mq6ss]

@@RadinV1 The fact that Superman went through a straight windows and concrete just to hug Batman. Imagine that* happening in real life

[@RadinV1]

@@PatRick-mq6ss honestly I think it's a nice moment.

[@LuckyLog97]

Getting real sick of Batman being the "uncorruptable" one. Let's keep in mind he used to use Venom and has a mean streak. Superman is literally the ultimate symbol of justice and all that is right.

[@Pikashades]

Dark Nights METAL. It has SEVEN evil CORRUPTED versions of Batman.

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

@@PikashadesThe Batman Who Laughs should be the main villain of Injustice 3

[@TheSilverPhoenix100]

Ill even go one step beyond and say im sick of writers putting Batmans angst onto other characters. Superman doesnt kill people not becasue he feels if he kills he wont be able to stop and it will lead to a never ending cycle of vengence, that entire idea is soley Batman's because Bruce is smart enough to know how unhinged he is and that one step will push him into the darkness. Superman doesnt kill maliciously but has killed to protect people (Zod and Doomsday being good examples) but feels incredibly guilty about having to do so...one of the very few things Snyder actually did get right in MoS. Superman does try to kill people for 2 reasons, one is because he feels its a waste of their potential to do good. He strongly belives in redemption and hopes to help people find their way to a better tommorow, hense the moniker "The man of tommorow". The second is Superman doesnt feel as though its his place to play judge, jury, and executioner, thats the job of society at large to decide...and hes 100% fucking right. All those people who say "Superman should just kill villians" need to ask themselves would they ? Becasue if your not willing to then dont expect someone else to do it so you feel less guilty. All of these ideas that Superman struggles with are written so lazily in Injustice and so what we end up with is basically as Snake put it "Space Hitler", when you could have actually had a well devoloped character push to an extreme and having a constant battle between his ideals and his experiences, not some idiotic muscle head who kills his friends and murders an underage boy

[@gamewalker1157]

Why? Is it because you’re a Superman fanboy who can’t stand his character getting depicted differently? Batman doesn’t turn evil because his morals don’t allow him to do so. While Superman is an alien, and he doesn’t know better and his behavior is unpredictable.

[@NoBody-lj5xh]

@@gamewalker1157 Fucking nonsense. Go read literally the comment above you or anything Superman/Batman related.

[@KonEl-BlackZero]

I love that plot, people who said "I dont like Superman because he is like a god, too powerfull" or "too cheesy", never ever read a Superman comic book, or even watched the Donner's Superman movie, even with some aspect of that film is dated, the core of Superman is showed up. Just a country boy, who wants to helps whenever he can.

[@meldrickedwards1464]

I agree.

[@billymccrary2246]

Agreed with you.

[@Alzilla09]

I couldn’t agree with you more.

[@_Snafu_]

You have a god amongst men who’s biggest superpower:is having a sense of humanity. He always wants to do the right thing and loves being human more than anything.

[@thelel6591]

exactly people shouldnt be like supermans too powerful. we should feel bad for him because of all the constant pressure hes under to do the right thing hell even meet fans expectations. it should show how much he deals with emotionally not powerscaling

[@QuestionableLogic_]

I find it funny, because a writer, who now who has gone on to write DCeased, actually said how wrong it felt to write the characters out of character due to how Injustice plot was. Especially Wonder Woman.

[@NoBody-lj5xh]

As much as I hate DCeased as a concept, there is better characterization of both DC heroes and villains in that story than in a majority of stories that DC has come out with in decades, so it doesn't surprise me that someone who worked on that...sort of...masterpiece doesn't like Injustice.

[@wearelegion5533]

Putting Wonder Woman up front... Brilliant

[@supermovies4625]

I actually prefer this version of the story. Batman becoming the bad guy makes more sense than Superman.

[@The4thSnake]

Exactly.

[@civilwarfare101]

As much as I wasn't a fan of the game's version of "Evil" Superman. The comic does it pretty well.

[@noradlark167]

That's why Superman going evil creates better story. He is the last hero to go evil while Batman being among first.

[@kasake15]

Batman can never become a bad guy we have a story that goes well into what would happen if batman did not care about killing it's called the batman who laughs. In a realistic setting if bats really did become evil he'd have the entire justice league dead to rights in about a week.

[@noradlark167]

@@kasake15 Batman is arguably an almost-villain and arguably the closest one to fall on.

[@nnamdiodiaka6684]

This. This guy gets it.

[@The4thSnake]

I wish more people got it. The world would be a better place.

[@Riskofrain527]

@@The4thSnake your version is shit

[@alfa01spotivo]

@@Riskofrain527 i thought it was good

[@DeathstroketheTerminator]

@@Riskofrain527 yes he makes the point you shouldn't alter characters till they are unrecognizable and yet his firay act is to say fuck it to every ingredient that makes Batman who he is. Yes it is hard for him to stay non-lethal but that is the very core of Batman that does not do easy he does what is right. Superman however never has to struggle him being good most often comes from the fact that it literally takes him no effort to be the right way is the easy way for him and there is no satisfaction in it. That's why the moral core of the League is most often the normal human Batman

[@timeyinsholaye9169]

@@DeathstroketheTerminator batman isnt the moral core of the league

[@sadriposting]

That forgiveness on superman at the end of your story, its making me almost cry, damn it

[@ColossalRay]

One of the interesting subplots you hinted at but didn't really go into that I REALLY wish we could have gotten was the dynamic between the Robins and a killer batman. Jason literally gets everything he ever wanted - Bruce kills the joker in righteous anger over his loss... But it would probably also ring hollow. He never did that for Jason when the joker killed HIM. It was losing Alfred, Jim, and most significantly (at least from Jason's POV) Tim, that set him over the edge. Jason as a character has a huuuuuge inferiority complex, and there's two characters that trigger it - Dick Grayson and Tim Drake. Jason feels like he could never measure up to the standard Dick set as Robin, and he fears that Tim not only replaced him in eyes of Bruce but actively surpassed him in every way. Bruce finally killing the Joker for Tim would be a huge slap in the face for Jason, but I think it would take a push for that to really dawn on him. He'd be too high on seeing the joker finally die by Bruce's hand, on finally having the relationship with Bruce he thought he always wanted (to be his right hand man and treated like his son). He'd be thrilled at first. But slowly, that inferiority complex would chip at his ego. He'd see Bruce mourning Tim and wonder if he felt even half as terrible when HE died. Bruce might even slip up and call him Dick when Jason starts filling in Nightwing's role as Bruce's second in command. And those insecurities would all culminate in a fight with Dick. Dick would remind him, point blank, and rather cruelly even, that Jason is effectively just a replacement. He'd remind Jason that Bruce never killed for him, even slit Jason's throat in the past (almost killing him in the process) to save the joker's life FROM him. Dick doesn't really believe everything he's saying, but he says it because Dick knows how to get under Jason's skin. I think losing that fight to Dick would be what would cause Jason to turn against Batman. It'd be the one move Bruce wouldn't see coming as he was pretty much banking on Jason's overwhelming desire to be loved. As cool and bad ass as he looks, he's really quite an emotionally weak person and this betrayal of batman would actually be a moment of growth for him as he realises he's becoming one of the things he hates most - a tyrant. He'd trick Bruce by luring him with his false sense of security into a confrontation with Clark and Diana in the climax that he wouldn't be prepared for. God I love emotional drama why couldn't we have had some of that sweet juicy emo melodrama

[@ColossalRay]

And that's not even touching on what I'd do with Damian!

[@IceVulpix]

Copperheid What....What would you do?

[@lavellelee5734]

Brilliant

[@jjjwhovian]

Brilliant idea! A point you could go further in this point is that you could have Dick continuing to get into Jason’s head in an attempt to open his eyes and see that Bruce only sees him as a replacement, even if he doesn’t believe that. However it ends with Jason roaring at Dick to shut up, eventually getting the upper hand and killing his brother in rage. Sounds an awful lot like Damian killing Dick in the Injustice comics but maybe make it less stupid and more tragic.

[@_Snafu_]

That all sounds amazing

[@ANIpJs]

I like this alt take on Injustice and if I'm being fully honest I'm sick to death of the Batman vs Superman Thing. It's rarely, if ever done right. The reason Batman and Superman fight is narratively compelling isn't because it's a normal man taking on a god, it's because it's sad. Clark Kent is Bruce Wayen's best friend, Hell in the prequel comic Kent asks Wayen to be the godfather to his unborn child. The drama comes from two best friends being pushed so far apart that they become adversarial. But fans and even worse writers don't seem to get that, Batman fighting Superman with the intent of depowering or even killing him isn't an action spectacle, it's a full-blown Greek tragedy. And Batman going to the extremes he would need to go to to successfully beat Superman is a point when Batman is no longer Batman, at that point he has let his rage and paranoia take control of him and is one step removed from just being the bad guy. Frank Miller got this, that's why in Dark Knight Returns when the story has built up that final show down the artwork has shifted from a somewhat realistic and traditional to cartoonish with Batman' s monstrous looking power armor symbolizing the final disconnection from his original mission. Same goes for Superman who starts out looking normally proportioned and by the end is a bulging cartoon caricature of himself. Batman and Superman are friend, super friends if you will. And I'm sick of writers in every medium (comics, video games, movies and cartoons) forcing this dated, nerd baiting plot.

[@meldrickedwards1464]

I slightly disagree with the second part of your comment. But overall, I agree with most of your comment.

[@donn5829]

I want someone to make this into a movie. I love how a youtuber can make an idea better and refreshing more than professional writers. Give this man a job at DC and a fucking medal.

[@The4thSnake]

I think it's because I refuse to pander to people who want the same things over and over, while the NRS team chose to/were forced to.

[@PrinxeGaming_]

Usually fans can make better content because we're more invested into stories than making money

[@jelanidacostabest8195]

This.

[@bigcash3453]

KZbin Wanderer you dead ass think this is a good idea?? Boyyyy Batman would get ran through gtfoh 😂😂 y’all don’t know shit about DC. Literally Batman would get ran through by anyone. This shit ain’t no joke. Red hood wouldn’t even join Batman cus by this time red hood isn’t a mindless killer anymore, asreal wouldn’t kill just cus he needs reasons. That’s why this idea falls apart. His whole idea is just straight trash. People like dead shot,Ras,etc wouldn’t join Batman cus he has no power. Unlike Batman Superman can literally rule with a iron fist people fear him no one will fear Batman. Superman can take down GL batman barely can take out 1 GL. This guy literally just spitting back shit crazy stuff.

[@Wright805]

+KZbin Wanderer The sad thing is that I'd be willing to bet many professional writers have come up with similar ideas. It's just that the corporate executives at DC (the ones who call the shots) never allow them to be written because they're scared of upsetting the rabid Batman fanboys by making him the villain.

[@percyleung6858]

2:47 Joker has also ruined the lives of people close to Batman as their pain would equal his (Killing Joke, Death in the Family, Death of the Family, No Man's Land, etc.) so the concept actually makes some sort of sense. Other than that, fairly nice concept.

[@remylabeau5140]

The fact that Aquaman has headlined a video game before Wonder Woman is criminal

[@ahkafkhan4512]

Nah wtf thats actually crazy aint no way mfin aquaman gets a game before wonder woman

[@balaklavaboi7261]

Evil Superman is scary but evil Batman...the stuff of nightmares

[@UnifiedEntity]

I like how you pointed out evil Superman is played out. Why? Because not only do we have stories of that, there are many universes were all the heros are bad. And idiots who do not understand Supermans character outside of his powers and see him as a "boy scout" will forever foam at the mouth with the idea of an evil Superman. Hes the hope of humanity. Even for Bruce. It would've been Hope vs Despair. Day vs Night.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I think his point is Superman is almost always the character to go bad in these types of stories (which is expected since he’s the iconic superhero of DC)

[@meldrickedwards1464]

"Will forever foam at the mouth at the idea of an evil Superman." Not really, but overall I agree with you.

[@AmethystDragoon]

I don't think the problem is about him turning bad, its more about how poorly written it is. There are good stories with a superman that turns evil but the writing for it feels natural and happens over a period of time, not in one day.

[@HubPie3]

I think the Injustice games (moreso the sequel) highlight a major issue I have with how some writers portray Batman: Overly perfect, always prepared no matter what, 10 steps ahead of everyone, the one who's always right, etc. I know DC's heroes are meant to be idealized and characters we want to be compared to Marvel's more grounded (to an extent) and flawed heroes, but I think Batman would fit Marvel's mold more than DC's, making him stand out more within that universe. I think your plotline solves the major cliches issue that DC has, especially with the evil Superman and Batman v Superman stuff. But no, we can't have Batman be portrayed as anything other than perfect because Batman fanboys are a bunch of morons that can't accept that they're favorite superhero is a human and not some ultra unstoppable badass.

[@The4thSnake]

Do they ever justify how he can take Superman in a fist fight in IJ2? Or how he takes down Brainiac? I think he just does because he's Batman.

[@HubPie3]

In the first fight, Bruce drops a Red Solar grenade to dull Clark's powers. As for the Brainiac fight, Bruce wins because he's Batman. I guess the limp justification is that Supes beat him pretty badly, but still.

[@rodney2x48]

He uses Kryptonite and a light grenade with red sun radiation or whatever in IJ2. They both take down Brainiac together in the story mode.

[@The4thSnake]

And then there's the new suit that I think has Kryptonite in it, but Clark doens't seem affected in any real way, so...

[@HubPie3]

I'll give Injustice 2 this: At least you can choose to have Superman win in the end. It's the bad ending, but still, at least Netherrealm didn't just have one option for an ending this time.

[@Tracer_Krieg]

"You should let the characters and their personalities determine the plot, not the other way around." *Looks crossly at The Clone Wars* Yup.

[@13j48]

An Injustice where its Batman vs Wonder Woman, how you came up with that, its a lot better that these two injustice games put together and the comics. Bro, you're on to something here.

[@JustinTotino]

I like the Injustice games/stories as they are but this version would be so much better. I've had this discussion with friends after each of the two Injustice games as well. Too bad there is no way WB/DC would ever let their best boy Batman be wrong even once, lest it lead to an interesting story.

[@julianparsons3027]

I can imagine Bruce saying to Damien, "Oh, that is hypocritical coming from you, grandson of Raas Al' Ghoul. Raised from birth to be an assassin! And now you preach to ME that killing is wrong?"

[@dakotablount251]

Nah, even a dark batman would feel weird saying that. Too petty for him specifically imo

[@antman1001000]

@@dakotablount251 More than likely Bruce would be proud of Damian for sticking to his new morals despite being raised as an assassin.

[@dakotablount251]

@@antman1001000 exactly. He'd have a "i don't believe in that anymore...but I'm proud you do" type moment. The situation this dude wrote up is cringe worthy at best.

[@nicodemos4829]

NRS needs to hire The4thSnake already because as much as I like going ”oh fuck yeah that would’ve been epic” at almost every single point, I’d rather the games just did things better.

[@brandonwest7633]

You know your company is fucked when a KZbinr can make better stories than the actual company

[@darrenbritt34]

I like you’re version better. TBH it would’ve made more of an impact for the game and the franchise. As well as higher stakes and more compelling turning points for certain heroes and villains.

[@ninjamime4497]

Damn... this is Way MORE BETTER, Injustice is an interesting series but it has a lot of cliche and unsatisfying holes

[@jakehorror799]

I think it would be cool if Batman was the villain with his own court of owls like faction against the heroes.

[@johnivantaro6684]

Another way it would make more sense for Superman to be evil in Injustice would be the part where Lex Luthor was never a villain in the Injustice Universe. Without Luthor as a villain, Superman never learned to never let power go to his head and he would have never learned to make sure he never gives in to the negative parts of his humanity. Couple that with my idea of Superman snapping because it was some other Superman villain that murders Lois (eg. General Zod, Doomsday, a Bizarro influenced by some other villain, etc.) and you’ll have a good idea for an evil version of Superman.

[@youtube_commenter04]

The4thSnake I prefer you're take on the Injustice storyline a lot more than the actual canon and the part about Superman visiting Batman after all he's done is just beautiful. Good Job!

[@finalfantasyfan0128]

I’m gonna be honest, I feel like that would be a better story than what we got in Injustice. I mean I absolutely love NRS’s Mortal Kombat. But Injustice, yeah I’m just now getting sick and tired of Batman having to fight a brainwashed and/or corrupted Justice League. If I were the writer of Injustice, I would have Batman be the main antagonist. For the main protagonist, I would have both Wonder Woman and Superman. Sure this would pretty much still result to Batman vs Superman, but those are his best friends and I would have them both trying to stop Batman from killing other people along side with the other of Gotham’s criminals who survived Batman’s killing spree in Arkham (Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn). But I can still see your point on this though.

[@StacheHand]

The rewritten story presented here would be really fun to play through. It takes liberties, but without being subversive for subversion's sake. It goes with the idea of a hero becoming a shadow of their former self, but without turning them into a generic moustache-twirler. It gives Wonder Woman the spotlight (for once), and it makes the battle with Batman seem more interesting with a special final boss form. It allows the Injustice universe to stand strongly on it's own as a dark place, and all without going into desensitizingly grim territory. If only the game could be made all over again with this script outline. Just one question: what would be this version's equivalent of the "you weren't the gun!" exchange?

[@qui-gonzaluke8024]

Something along the lines of: "I could have stopped it at any time but chose not to because of my no kill rule".

[@coleschubert9868]

I still think nightwing leaving to wonder woman should be the climax of the story and the moment Bruce opens his eyes.

[@Tkokat]

What always bugged me is the fact that they showcase WW as someone weak and incapable. Wonder woman, as of "recently" was able to hold off against a myriad of enemies in the "steel" comics (the batman who laughs "season") until Bruce and Superman came around. Fuck! She alone managed to hold her ground against hundreds of enemies! And she was a fucking bad ass about it!

[@zerowing3213]

This story has WAY more meaning than the one we actually got..

[@feuryie]

yeah. i'd much prefer your version. not only does it make more sense, but i'm getting tired of everyone wanting to turn superman into a bad guy cuz "he's just too perfect!" your story is interesting and seems to account more for the actual character dynamics over randomly turning them all into hitler because of one slip up, major as it was.

[@rorybarber5076]

Here's my idea It's the same premise, metropolis is nuked one faithful day by lex luthor and the Joker, killing millions including Lois, Jimmy Olson, and the visiting Kent parents. Superman, instead of immediately turning into a bloodthirsty psychopath, instead puts the Joker and Lex in the phantom zone. Clark decides that he needs to make a judgment call, clearly modern civilization is beyond saving even for the Justice League, and even for Superman. So, he forever abandons his identity as Clark Kent and becomes Superman full time. He gets to work dismantling the world's governments, getting rid of nuclear weapons, forcing world leaders to surrender under him, all without killing anyone, purely through non lethal tactics. He still creates the one earth government, but he still refuses to build his empire on cold blood, for truth and absolute justice still burn within him. Basically, he stops being a man to the world, and casts judgment as a God. That way there's some moral ambiguity in his stance, sure crime and destruction are heavily reduced, but it's at the cost of freedom. Batman still comes in as the leader of the insurgency, but he's a very different man after he failed to stop the Joker and Luthor. He kills, manipulates, abuses, does anything he can to destroy the One Earth government. So the two ideologies are freedom at the cost of justice, vs justice at the cost of freedom. Boom, character progression that makes sense, a civil war story with moral ambiguity, and a story that holds true to Superman without destroying him. The other league can still come in too, ultimately sideing with the insurgency, and you can have a bitter sweet ending with the word being free of absolute dictatorship, but the fear of what will happen to the world being highlighted.

[@billymccrary2246]

I sorta kinda like it.

[@mauricespurgeon3720]

This is amazing. I hope someone actually picks this story up and does it justice one day

[@homefactory6226]

Batman become a bad bat that something new to see.

[@christians4854]

This is legit fantastic. This simple version of a story almost made me tear up at the end. This would be way better than the original.

[@legionbeast]

Finally... someone understands what Superman is about.

[@savagelogic8674]

Legion Beast Only those who follow the comics know what he’s all about, even the biggest comics writers will tell how important Superman is. Batman only seems bigger nowadays because of fans and overexposure, not what he’s actually done for the superhero genre compared to the good old kryptonian.

[@legionbeast]

@@savagelogic8674 Agreed, it's such a pain for people to just not know that Superman has all his powers BECAUSE they let him take the impossible third option.

[@Jew_Gi_Oh]

@@savagelogic8674 even Mark Millar and Garth Ennis a man who wrote The Boys and despises Superheroes knows Superman is the most purest and greatest superhero of all time.

[@justforlaugh1014]

I feel like a cool final showdown could be Nightwing dawning on a batsuit akin to batman beyond going toe to toe with Batman in his anti League suit with emotional beats similar to that of the final boss fight of Spiderman PS4. Later on in the fight Superman and Wonder Woman could help finish it, showing off a new trinity in action. The alternate league journeying to another multiverse has also been over done trope and an easy way for self reflection for characters that have been forced go off the deep end. Also seeing a story that incorporates elements the battle for the cowl story arc and Nightwing getting an actual chance to shine in game material would be awesome.

[@billymccrary2246]

Yeah, that's would be cool.

[@MadMax22]

And of course it's gotta be raining extremely hard to sell the mood.

[@LiMe251]

You mean like Batwing?

[@danoppppoopoo]

Never thought how flawed the original plot was. Thanks for sharing your perspective man!

[@Whispurer]

Injustice asking the question of "what if Batman killed?" over "what if Superman was evil?" Is something I will prefer always.

[@barthomero721]

Fuck, this is so good, this game hands down was the one that made the "dc is dark and mature" theme popular with his overly bad written characters, but your version even as resumed as it is shows more respect to the characters than the other way around.

[@sgauden02]

I prefer this version.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Funny enough we kinda got that with the recent dc event dark knights metal which had evil Batman’s invade the mainstream dc universe and it was awesome and badass in my opinion

[@TevyaSmolka]

yup

[@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets]

@Sparten 117 we need that as a game.

[@TevyaSmolka]

JSB lol indeed in fact i would be all for that

[@paulakroy2635]

I feel bad for the comic writers

[@The4thSnake]

They try their best (usually), but NRS didn't leave them with much room.

[@flair541]

Here's a hypothetical: What if the game was about the Justice Lords fighting the Crime Syndicate? Think of it: Crisis on Two Earths deals with Earth 3 Lex bringing the League to his Earth. What if The CS Lex, tired of barely escaping with his life and losing friends, tries to recruit power he knows will match his own oppressors? So he scouts, finds the Justice Lords of Earth, and decides they're the best fit. Why? They'll kill. Now the race is on for Lex to get them to help him depose the CS but not let them run the world in their stead. Gradually, as the JLE and CS clash, The JLE realize the almost fascistic bend to how they run their world is wrong, and while the CS are gradually whipped out, or their main people surrender, The JLE return home, softening their grip on their world as Lex and the Legion of a Better Tomorrow lead their people to a brighter future where they aren't governed so unjustly.

[@sadturtle540]

Yeah this is way cooler than the conic we got and it sounds refreshing

[@MildlyAggressiveOni]

To this day, I think an “evil Batman” makes much more sense character-wise, than an “evil Superman”, and yet I never see that idea done the justice it deserves. I really like a lot of the ideas you’ve shared in video, and I hope if an Injustice 3 ever comes out, I hope the story is very similar to this (Though I suppose it won’t unless they reboot it)

[@denysvision]

I don't think i like batman turn evil been a concept becuase he's code of "not kill" it would make sense at all, but superman been a simbol of justice been yurned evil makes much sense because he is kind of the stronger superhero out of all of justice league, and batman is the only sane person that finds the solutions

[@moncay3238]

@@denysvision superman is the symbol of hope not justice.

[@denysvision]

@@moncay3238 nope, is also the simbol of justice, not just hope, he would have that speach about dreams, and he is the voice of reason when it comes to justice

[@moncay3238]

@@denysvision wouldn’t batman make sense as the symbol of justice?

[@denysvision]

@@moncay3238 both batman and superman are but these 2 are diferent metods of justice

[@linkzellda]

Batman is already wrong after all his not kill rules have caused a lot of problems. The problem here is that Batman's fans and DC refuse to acknowledge he is wrong. And when someone points this out, they come up with some stupid excuse to justify, Batman's arrogance behavior.

[@nathanielcolehultbergcarte6327]

Netherealm should hire this guy to write their stories from this point on

[@batguy39]

I was reluctant at first but this is pretty cool It shows how much depth there is to Batman's relationships

[@Xehanort10]

9:27 Dick dying because Damian accidentally broke his neck was a really bad way for him to go out.

[@sheldonbarnes4125]

Thank you. This is probably the most satisfying review yet. I agreed with all of it

[@MegaHeaf]

This sounds amazing I wish this was a comic or game

[@AlonzoTompkins]

I would’ve taken the Justice Lords from the animated Justice League show over the regime. (The episodes for them are just the Injustice story mode would be like if done well honestly)

[@PurpleAce227]

11:01 I dunno what the comic source was for the image but I didn’t know Superman became the kool-aid man lmao 😂

[@dionotdio]

Injustice Year 3 #14

[@margaretbierman4641]

Well Hal went nuts and became a supervillain before. Inst hard to think him being yellow lantern is this universes parallax arc.

[@briancarranza8350]

I really wish someone could take your version of Injustice and make a game, comic, or even an animated movie or series. The idea of Batman Vs Superman gets tiring after the 1500th time and I could see some of the things you said in the video happening. Like for a trailer for this take you would have Batman and Joker just in Joker’s cell having their final chat while Red Hood and the other are murdering c listers left and right. Batman talks about how everything’s been stripped away from him while Joker just laughs maniacally. Then Batman whips out a batarang and sliced Jokers throat. THAT WOULD BE JUST PLAIN FUCKING AMAZING

[@Jyoelmejor]

You need to write the script for the next game..I am glad you made this video as I was completely taken abound by the story of this game as you were..Your take actually makes sense.

[@randomguy-fr2qn]

I'm liking these wasted potential video's especially the mkx one keep it up man, I'm a superman fan but I'm getting tired of having him be the bad guy just because he has powers

[@The4thSnake]

Thank you. Got plenty more on the way. Especially with MK and Injustice. Those series are a gold mine.

[@randomguy-fr2qn]

Can't wait for the mileena wasted potential

[@johnsantos507]

Did you guys know there's a Crossover comic between Injustice and He-man. After Superman's ending in Injustice 2, he turn all Supervillains and Deathstroke into his slave and not only that he and Wonder Woman send Supergirl into the Phantom Zone.

[@lancescott6513]

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[@spider-nerd]

A rouge superman is scary but a rouge batman is terrifying

[@petertracycarroll]

Shazam deserved more him flash and Hal should have all teamed up also Damian is one of my favorite dc characters he deserves more to

[@DCsasquatch]

TBH I would prefer Hal to be off world or doing his own thing and having Guy or John be the main GL in this retelling of the Injustice games. honestly would work better for Batmans side as Hal was only a test pilot for the military. John was a U.S. marine and Guy was a Red Lantern, so I think it would be better for one of them to take Hals place.

[@gamertimefuntime4245]

This guy gets it. I’m just afraid what’s going to happen in Injustice 3.

[@Lotties_handsaw]

Ok so spoilers for the injustice 2 comic series, but my favorite part by far is when the Titans escape the phantom zone, and Superboy puts on the original superman suit. Why is it my favorite? Because it's the only part in the whole franchise where the guy in the Superman suit actually acts like Superman! Edit: I'm not counting supes from the alternate earth in the game.

[@skyslasher2297]

9:00 on the topic of the three remaining robins I was thinking having Damian become more of a free lancer who’d work with either side but wouldn’t join them progressively siding with Diana before officially joining after witnessing Bruce’s side do something that to him crosses the line personally I’d go with Jason or Deathstroke for this to maintain Bruce’s sympathy and when the war is over Dick wanting to restore the Batman legacy becomes the new Batman and seeing how capable Damian was in those five years on his own gifts him the Nightwing mantel

[@anthonydepasquale6672]

What a great job you did on this video, I love your version of the story so much more and was compelled to listen to the end to get the whole story! Keep up the great work!

[@NhBleker]

The funny thing about your story with Batman slicing Joker’s throat is that it would trigger the toxin that’s within the Joker that when inhaled by whoever is unfortunate to inhale it, it’ll turn that person into the next Joker. This is how The Batman Who Laughs was born.

[@sehunsshouldertowaistratio5912]

This made me so happy because it’s so unique and compelling but also so sad because I know we’ll never get anything like this😭😭

[@yingkongshi]

I like your version way more than acutally story

[@wheresprototype3507]

Two of my biggest problems with this game are: batman is alone just have Martian manhunter not killed but injured and captured and rescued during the story. I also would have had captain Atom as well but I can't figure out a reason for him surviving his explosion. 2: HE KILLED BILLY AND NO ONE CARED! HD WAS JUST A KID AND SUPERMAN JUST KILLED HIM IN COLD BLOOD. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOCKED OR SCARED AND NOPE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT HIM AND SUPERMAN SHOULD HAVE HAD A RELIZATION THAT HE KILLED A KID AND HIS FRIEND AND CAUSED HIM TO HAVE A GUILT TRIP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME OR AT LEAST A BIG CHUNK NEAR THE END

[@oscarclarke2653]

Your story sounds better for a movie, to be honest. Writing a story for a videogame is tricky, especially when you're making a game based on such iconic mythos as DC has.

[@alexanderfreeman3406]

Even for a video game Injustice’s plot is terrible. It’s a quintessential idiot plot. And I’ll never get over how often characters just disappear, only to awkwardly sidle in from just off camera when the game remembers they’re supposed to be there.

[@petertracycarroll]

Damian deserved more than this story gave him

[@ZerothMask]

Damn. Why do some have fans end up with better ideas than the devs/writers most of the time? This was pretty great, and I've subbed just for this

[@The4thSnake]

Great timing. There's a new WP going public in the next few hours.

[@theothesir]

I love your version sir. It actually sounds intriguing and engaging.

[@The4thSnake]

Thank you. That's the goal of this show, after all.

[@stranger5011]

I love how Batman is so fucking "broken" as a character: He's relatable because at the end of the day he's just a normal person. And yet he Basically never loses because he has 10000 plans to defeat everyone and is uncorruptable

[@rudranshu65sengupta14]

Flashpoint Wonder Woman. The truth is when you take a hero/heroine and make him/her into an irredeemable villain or villainess, you are bound to face a backlash. Case in point, what Harper Lee does to Atticus Finch in that terrible sequel of ‘To Kill A Mockingbird’, that I shall not bother to name, lest it gives me convulsions.

[@mgmboy3778]

I mean now I think about it it does make sense to make Batman the villain not Superman

[@Eshtian]

Not a fan of batman being the villain but that's pure bias and I like the actual story that you came up with.

[@stephen8805]

Damn this dude has way better story ideas than NRS.

[@The482075]

I played Injustice Gods Among Us then I later watched Wonder Woman (DCEU film). Two very different characters.

[@hugoheavens9863]

It's weird that in Injustice 2 Bruce has brother eye and we are supposed to be fine with that. The whole multiverse concept and eyes everywhere would be great to set up the threat of this rogue Batman either in Injustice or a sequel

[@kingxd3ath_arts485]

Although i don't hate injustice's story. i definitely agree on the subject of being tired of evil versions of good characters and would love a story that represents the characters in the actual was they are depicted

[@RadinV1]

Finally a fair critique for such an overrated story.

[@redjirachi1]

Your idea for what an evil Batman should be is infinitely more interesting and in-keeping with his character The Batman Who Tries To Hard. I really want to see a good video laying into why The Batman That Laughs is a terrible villain. He's like the Quan-Chi of DC

[@Jew_Gi_Oh]

Injustice Gods Among Us: Joker tricks "Superman" into murdering his wife and unborn child which triggers a nuclear bomb blowing up Metropolis killing over 11 million people. This "Superman" then immediately flies and punches his chest through Joker's chest instantly killing him. Then this "Superman" or really Homelander with an S on his chest becomes Stalin and builds gulags and armies of stormtroopers to rule the planet with an iron fist. This "Superman" engages in a 5 year civil war against Batman killing many of his own friends that he's know for years. God this story is garbage! Emperor Joker: Joker tricks Mxyzptlk into give him all of his Godlike powers to control and manipulate all of reality which he uses to kill Batman over and over again and twist existence into his own image. Joker snaps his fingers killing everyone Superman has ever known and love including Lois, Jimmy, his parents, the Justice League, and Batman again trying to break Superman's will and mind to force him to kill. Superman never gives in and never gives up and never compromises his morals or kills the Joker in order to save all of existence even though Batman himself was broken and wanted Joker to die. Joker with just a snap of his fingers unleashed everything that could possible break the Man of Steel only to strengthen Superman's resolve which inspires all of his friends. This story by the way is canon and shows why Superman is still the greatest superhero of all time. Superman defeated the Joker with Godlike powers to control existence itself and despite losing Lois, his parents, and all of his friends, Superman never gave up or lost hope and continued to resist Emperor Joker. Superman is the ultimate symbol of Hope and all that is good. Throughout this story Joker's is continuously humiliated by Superman who refuses to accept the reality Joker created and his defiance is a rallying cry for the other heroes to rediscover their hopes. Batman is killed and resurrected over and over again having to live with the memories of torment and pain after being killed and resurrected so many times by Emperor Joker. Batman is literally Joker's chew toy throughout this entire story and the rest of the Justice League are transformed into hilarious caricatures of themselves like Wonder Woman being a housewife, Aquaman being a literal fish, Martian Manhunter becoming shorter resembling Marvin the Martian from Looney Tunes, and the Flash being fat and obsessed with junk food. There was a point near the end where Joker gave Superman a chance to truly kill him ending his rule over existence which Superman outright refused because it's what Joker would want and this was after Joker killed Lois and the entire Justice League. This pissed off Joker who decided to straight up kill Superman but cannot because he's losing his grip on his powers. Joker decides to destroy the entire universe so Superman on his own needs to discover the rules that Joker plays by in order for him to lose Mxyzptlk's powers before it's too late. Superman being the greatest hero of all time beats Godlike Joker at his own game using his wits and exploiting Joker's obsession and insecurities with the Batman causing Joker to doubt his own ability. Joker can't get rid of Batman no matter how many times he kills him or wills him out of existence because Joker's life and existence is meaningless without Batman which causes the Joker to lose his powers which return to Mxyzptlk and he, Superman, and Spectre repair and fix the entire Universe back to what it was before this whole horrifying event. Batman however had to live with all the trauma of being killed in so many gruesome and painful ways and is literally a broken shell of a man. Superman being the true hero and friend that he is has the Spectre take all of that traumatizing PTSD out of Batman and implant them into Superman whose will is indomitable. Joker is seen drooling on the floor at Arkham Asylum. And Batman fanboys still think Batman is better than Superman LOL. Batman not only lost to the Joker but lost his morals and became insane wanting Superman to kill Joker to end it all. This story proves Superman is truly incorruptible and this story came out in the year 2000! And there are people who still think Injustice is a good portrayal of Superman and the Justice League? LOL It's a horribly written story that perverts and bastardized the characters that everyone knows and loves for the sake of being dark and edgy.

[@comicalpeculiarity6319]

I don't know how to feel about Batman being evil but this is an interesting variation

[@wdcain1]

A good _'all is lost moment'_ would be the heroes finally free Superman and just as Clark is doing his thing, *BANG* a gold Kryptonite bullet hits him in the heart. Even the skilled Dr. Midnight can't remove it without killing him and so Superman doesn't have his powers.

[@The4thSnake]

Sounds like when the Titans get out of the Phantom Zone.

[@yashmandla1234]

If Dick does die, maybe to would cause Damian to hard swing into either direction, like if he was killed by accedent by someone on Batman's side he would cement his loyalty to Wonder woman, but if it's a criminal that did it, he would side with his father, also I think that Nightwing, the original Robin is underutilized, he has 2 main purpouses that I can think of, and those are to replace batman if he were to die in combat, or to take him out if he ever went rouge, and we know that Nightwing is already at the point ware atleast physically he can outmatch Batman, but this consent is rarely ever used

[@lolkr847523]

What you're asking for has essentially been done by the Batman Who Laughs! Check his stories out for some good content :)

[@ohitsthatguy8079]

I have a question how big of a roster would this be? All the Robins, most of the Batfamily, Justice League, Harley and Ivy, what looks like the suicide squad! I want this game so bad!

[@Red_1911]

I would love to see a Batman/Red Hood team up as they wipe out Arkham Asylum

[@envynoson]

5:13 Batman: It's easy for you to say that you can end conflicts non-lethally before it escalates too far, I'm just a human. Superman: Bruce, everytime I bring up meta-humans protecting Gotham you get anal about it. Gotham would've been better off with trained meta-humans rather than a guy in a bad suit with karate training. You could have tooken out corrupted politicians, put the right people in office, and financially support and prepare superheroes in Gotham as Bruce Wayne but instead you decided to beat up on the mentally handicapped with a gang of kids in a batsuit. Batman: I fucking knew you never believed in me. Superman: Am I wrong though? How many times you rejected my help? I let Steel help me time to time you don't see me screaming stay out of my city. Batman: I can kill you in many ways! Superman: Oh, yeah like I'm not the first line of defense against alien invasions, don't get me started on dimensional invasions you have never won a single fight that didn't end with me knocking out the guy for you.

[@GreaserMan]

My worst things were that A) They didn't include Manchester Black at all and B) they didn't try something different in the sequel, instead of just "duergh, evil Superman again". Coulda done evil Batman, but nooooooo

[@The4thSnake]

It's really bed because they seemed to be going for a Superman redemption story until they end, where he pulls a DmC and turns out to still be evil.

[@GreaserMan]

Like I said, I would have regretfully accepted that IF Manchester Black was in the story. He's such a perfect character for the Injustice story but they haven't even mentioned him. It's such a loss.

[@The4thSnake]

Not even in the comic. He seems like the kind of character who's just well-known enough to appear and get needlessly murdered.

[@GreaserMan]

Eurgh, good point. Maybe it is for the best for him to not show up, unless they did something interesting and had Manchester kinda be a martyr or something when he gets killed?

[@The4thSnake]

I think the comic would kill him off, while the games would just put him in a stage background. I just realised, IJ2 didn't really do that, aside from Brainiac, Two-Face and Croc.

[@hugoheavens9863]

My main issue with Injustice and stories were Superman turns evil is they say that Oh Superman lost his connection to humanity when Lois Lane died when Clark's connection to humanity is being raised on earth and essentially being a human that just so happens to have superpowers. If he didnt have a connection to humanity until he meets lois why would he even bother being a superhero for a planet he doesn't care about.

[@joxyver]

Jesus, 5 years later and this video manages to be 100% better than the entire story of Injustice 1, 2, and the comics. Honestly only thing that is better than those aside from your video is the Injustice animated movie, and yes I’m being serious because at least in there Wonder Woman isn’t a super villain to the point of making Darkseid Re-think his position as “Evil Incarnate”

[@nrthe2videos514]

I didn't like the idea at first, but now I really enjoyed it, you really understand these characters more than I do. Man I really have to look in depth with DC characters I really like DC more than Marvel. I want DC to be better.

[@The4thSnake]

We all do. It's tragic that DC is a complete failure everywhere outside of the comics and TV.

[@nrthe2videos514]

The4thSnake yeah, but that's reality man

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I mean they do have animation as well (used to be games but that changed)

[@smashbattle6969]

Your injustice story sounds way more interesting then the one we got

[@shikniwho7215]

if Dark Knight Meta was made before Injustice, maybe we will get a story similar to this.