76 Years of Independence: Where do We Stand?

[@nitingarg9242]

Did Pakistan exist before 1947? Then how did Pakistan got independence? I am bewildered as to why even the so called enlightened of PK don't tell their students that Pakistan was 'created' in 1947 whereas India got independence!

[@skmisra6187]

Whether Jinna and Muslim League had taken any part in freedom struggle? Answer is no. They were creating obstacle in freedom struggle. He was playing in hand of Britishers.

[@dodiraj1]

The Mid day meal programme was started by K Kamaraj, CM of Madras state( now Tamil Nadu) in 1956-57. Kamaraj himself was a school dropout at the age of 11

[@pankaja7974]

God protect Pervez Hudbuoy saab and all others who speak the Truth in Paxtan

[@ashokkumardas4781]

(1)From India listening Hudbuoy sir's deliberations . Thank you sir and saddened that we missed you because of 1947.(2) Sir , After 1857 revolt, British tried to create Hindu Muslim difference as both the communities faught together against British. Bahadur sah was declared Emperor of free india by Hindu Muslim participants of the revolt together without any hesitation. I am surprised to note that 1857 revolt is not discussed in Pakistan whereas in India , it is considered as first freedom struggle of India.

[@rahulkapur687]

One correction- 14th of August aapka day of birth hai, hamara 15th of August day of independence from the British hai! 🙏 🇮🇳

[@upadhyayrathiraj1518]

Dr Shakil Chaudhary is the only light in this Black Hole.

[@Taqiyya-Slayer]

16:12 correction Muslim were not ruling India, it was Marathas who ruled India and British defeated Marathas to govern India. Mugal kings were just for name sake a celebratory position and they governed UpTo palam part of Delhi.

[@asifiqbal2776]

25:17 It's always a pleasure to hear Mr. Shakil Chaudhary's stimulating and thoughtful views.

[@mohsinafzaal7159]

Excellent discussion! That’s what we need an open and free discussion! Look inside us! What have done in the last 76 years???

[@rohitjha2985]

its a beacon of hope for Pakistan if this honest analsis spreads and becomes part of popular discourse;better late than never. This is self reflection at the best!Indians also need to do similar analysis for all our failings and there are many despite all known successes.

[@nitingarg9242]

STOP COMPARING INDIA WITH PAKISTAN JUST STOP PLEASE 🙏🏻, there is no comparison. India is much bigger than Pakistan in many ways so same rules don't apply! Please 🙏🏻

[@ilyasrana4545]

I find no hope and I am 1000% until Pakistan becomes a normal secular democratic state, Pakistan can ever survive with this religious direction

[@ilyasrana4545]

After religious constitution Pakistan 2nd problem is management and administration,Pakistan does not have basic pillars for the state, but we have basic pillars of Islam in the syllabus

[@vardhamanpatil1539]

16.27 ..the lady guest says Mughals/ Bahadur Shah Jaffar was ruling all over India.. actually most of the part of United India was ruled by Marathas and Sikhs .. British defeated them till 1850s and became Rulers... Bahadur Shah Jaffar's defeat was the last straw on the Camels back...

[@MunawarAzaad2025]

We stand before 1947 . Even before 1947 situation was better. Pakistan is the only country which regress not progress anymore. The worst regression is societical, moral and not only governmental but economical and more than that judicial and corrupt mindset in all spheres of life

[@rohitshanker8878]

A big salute to Mr. Shakeel Saheb 🙏

[@somnathde8680]

In Delhi as well as in other major cities in India we need an Institute like Black Hole. Quality discussion. Enriched. Nasreen Azhar spoke also very well. Thanks from India.

[@kaaboom6996]

No need.

[@dodiraj1]

1:32:47 Kashmir has attracted 12 million tourists till date during this year. This is in addition to those who visited Jammu and Ladakh. Definitely not a garrison area.

[@ankurroy3979]

First of all, Pakistan has not enjoyed Democracy or Independence for 76 years.

[@chandreshmehta2399]

Hudbhoy sir, you might be aware that when Bharatiya Janta Party was established in 1980 after split of Janta Party, one of its pioneers was Sikandar Bakht from Chandni chowk Delhi. Others were AB Bajpayee, LK Adwani and MM Joshi..

[@utubetruthteller]

i am listening these things for the last ten years but no changes no corrective measures

[@gopalsriwastav8852]

Happy Independence day to you all. I am really happy to tell you that first time in my life I am wishing Pakistani people.

[@Noname-ep2lz]

They don’t have anyone other than jogindernath mandal, we in india have a whole lineup of muslim ministers. Yet they have audacity to say udhar musalmano k saath kya ho raha hai.

[@chandreshmehta2399]

Hudhbhoy sir can you imagine our parents never hesitate to sell their house for education of their children? We just switch off our TVs and stop participating in any social gathering and dinners during two years of 11th and 12th standards of our children

[@yasarmehmood4055]

Heartening to see youngsters asking intelligent questions. Blackhole is a great platform. Well done, Prof Hoodbhoy

[@gurmailbath16]

Great discussion Big Respect shakll sahib Love from California 🙏🇺🇸

[@MuhammadSaleem-kf4bz]

Nice plate farm for discussion God bless Hood brother

[@maddhudeshpande7747]

I have been watching the ' Black hole ' program recently. I am impressed by the discussion. But it's saddening to see very few attending these programs physically. After 76 years of independence of Pakistan and the condition in which they are today I expect to see such programs be taken by storm! Being an Indian and BJP supporter I want to see Pakistan progress.

[@curiousbynaturelove]

It's good to see Pakistani talking about their biggest problem. That is their army. It shocked me to hear about their wealth. And how Pakistani can't talk about them.

[@krisssh_1937]

Is there any Pakistani listening or only we Bhartiy listening and enlightening ourselves as always

[@upendrashukla1441]

Respected panelist, I admire you all four. One thing I would like to bring to your notice. Just introspect that if some group come to seek your help to fight a bigger enemy than yourself. That group will talk to more younger, militant person than wiser, experienced person.

[@gajananranade9429]

I fully agree with madam, and her thinking that civilians should be allowed to move and make mistakes... By that only they will get right direction...

[@bhagwandasprajapati1797]

Nasreenji I salute you for your deep knowledge and concern for women and showing the mirror.🙏

[@adolfworld21]

Never expected Pakistan have that much open minds to discuss real knowledge

[@wajidali258]

I’m satisfied with what I’ve got to get more knowledge about Pakistan todat from this discussion

[@parikhdk8509]

Dr.parvez with all respect I admire n impressed with u r best effort ñ hanlding show,

[@arya.bharat]

Sir aapne athans ki story sunaker bahut achha Kiya i can understand where your aim is... It's a good way to teach Pakistani people..🙏👌

[@bhagwandasprajapati1797]

I feel sorry why the audience is so less. This is wonderful program and should be held in big auditorium. Really sad that only handful youngsters are there

[@TravellerWithNature]

I am proud indian ❤❤❤

[@NandaKumar-bx8qc]

Important point missed - The real reason for partitiion was the rich muslim landlords of U.P wanted a safe haven for their wealth.. they conviniently used religion as a tool

[@khanarmy2583]

Great and mindful discussion

[@RNDixit-me5uj]

Kindly,Change the title.....It is not 76 years of independence but..."76 year of creation/foundation day" !!

[@chandreshmehta2399]

Hudhbhoy sir bluntly told we are not independent. In this context I just remembered a dialogue from loose talk of Anwar Maqsood, when Moin tells " Azadi aap ko 14th August 1947 ko de di gayi thi ab agar aap ko roz roz azadi chahiye to vo nahin Milegi....what a real description!!

[@siddharthatalukdar4227]

Its true that India has had many insurgency movements but they didn't talk how they were solved. The North-East is a classic example. All groups who put down their arms were not jailed but allowed to run for local and state elections. Many Article 370 type laws were passed to preserve local culture and give autonomy. Newest example is Bodos where an autonomous region Bodoland has been created within Assam. The Naxal insurgency in Central India is nearly dead

[@sujitsingh2138]

Muslim parhe likhe? Earth is flat and stationary??!

[@NibaranNath-bx4ee]

In our society religion is practised after 60-70 years age of a person to keep the old age in a satisfactory mode for self well being

[@umarumar-fy4ql]

Hello shakil Chaudhary sahib, I met you at Black hole , a few weeks before. Great interview

[@nitingarg9242]

Correct yourselves: mughals never were able to capture whole of india,

[@b.pdhuriya]

Respected Shakilji sir, Dr Parvez Hoodbhoy, Nayyar Sir and Respected Nasreen madam 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@JubinUpadhyay-cu2ds]

Salute to Dr. Hoodbhoy!

[@gurindersingh3001]

Like always very nice conversation

[@rakadus]

W - Water E - Education E - Economy P - Population

[@sadasatyamvada]

Even these intellectuals of Pakistan can not give the kid an honest answer? Hoodbhoy conveniently forgot to mention that Aurangzeb imposed Jizya on Hindus. Sikh religion became a combatant religion because the Mughal emperors tortured and killed the Sikh gurus and their children. Countless temples were destroyed, including the holiest temple in Varanasi by Muslim invaders and rulers. The short answer is that there was never peace between Muslims and Hindus because of the exclusivist nature of Islam. It was an uneasy truce at best, necessitated because the Muslims wanted to rule a hindu majority country. Hoodbhoy is giving BS when he says that people did not even know their religion until the British census.

[@RakeshSharma-tz1wi]

Until religion is made 100% personal affair constrained to within homes. Until the state and religion are separated, NO HOPE FOR PAKISTAN. I am sorry for saying the plain truth, but i care enough for common Pakistanis to not hold back real and complete reality. Lets keep the hope alive.

[@rohitshanker8878]

Parvez saheb forgotten that Takshila and Nalanda Universiries was there from 4000 to 5000 years and it was for all not only for brahmins, he dies not have actual knowledge of Indian system

[@VenomM778]

Not independence day. It's Pakistan's 76th birthday day. Happy birthday Pakistan

[@arunrathod3669]

Sab sir log ko mera salam. Ki Pakistan me aise bat karte ho. Well don.

[@Kutta-Pan]

"I'm absolutely captivated by the brilliance of The Black Hole team.

[@sprinkleroilfish]

Great discussion as always

[@PR-pu7pv]

Except Shakil Chaudhari,🙏 All mindsets are putting Jilebiya ,and away from ground reality.

[@harminderkaur4994]

Do not insult jinnah, he firmly believed Hindus & muslims cannot live together, u must take all Indian muslims in Pakistan so that they can enjoy unadulterated genuine authentic Islam why they should be deprived of Islam

[@ankush-89]

Good discussion ..enjoyed

[@ShyamKumar-zb2mw]

76 Years - and where does PK stand?? Sadly, it stands deep in the doo-doo - with seemingly no visible way out. And that is because the powers that be still do not feel the need or compulsion to make any visible and long standing changes to their assumptions and thinking. Partition mubarak ho!!!

[@siddharthkamath1698]

Great discussion...

[@OnkarSingh-qu9ns]

13:27 Mr Mandal runaway to India, he fore saw the future that for minorities is not good in Pakistan

[@MaherbanAliRumi]

Appreciate the best efforts for awareness. Enjoyed listening. Many thanks for the good efforts

[@alimohtashimkhan2711]

Beautiful discussion.

[@hariskhan21]

Very true, impressive, thought provoking debate, highlighted the existing realities.

[@jaidhanki]

After 76yrs, ASKING as to where Do Pak Stand ?? Baffles Me ! Indicates you don't know yet, weather you are coming or Going ? Rest assured asking the same in 2047 too.!! Dr. H'Boy . Possible comparative scenario example of Athens Vs Milos to Pak(Athens) Vs India (Milos) would be scholarly enlightening keep on trucking!! 😳🙏

[@skmisra6187]

People of Pakistan cannot call it as Independence .Jinna and Muslim league had never taken part in freedom struggle. Jinna was touts of Britishers

[@rajendrahedau294]

Very good discussion, some of panelists have dared to speak about Pakistan forces.

[@Krunalbhuyar]

Result of Second Anglo Maratha War The Scindias signed the Treaty of Surji-Anjangaon in 1803 through which the British got the territories of Rohtak, Ganga-Yamuna Doab, Gurgaon, 🇮🇳Delhi 🇮🇳 Agra region, Broach, some districts in Gujarat, parts of Bundelkhand and Ahmadnagar fort.

[@jatendra4925]

that rawalpindi guy raised a good point but his conclusion is very simple..ke "hum to pakka nhi hain ruling me" ...looks more intuitive than factual

[@ringuanung1876]

Living in India 🇮🇳 proudly, I'm just thinking that how depressing it would be to live in Pakistan 🇵🇰..?

[@sanjibkar2015]

Great analysis. 🙏

[@saeedkaukab1791]

WE STILL STAND IN 1940--46. WE ARE STILL SCATERED AND AIMLESS. 🤔😣😭😎

[@sujitsk]

When you go back to the partition you will find parity was central to the notion that Pakistan was equal to India, if not more than equal - a limpet that couldn't be shaken off. Today it struggles to accept the reality of its position; one that has shrunk to less than a fraction of India's.

[@nikhil_Ranjan89]

One of the best debate show in pakistan

[@shubamsalaria971]

Sir Dr. Hoodboy should be inspiration for many in India and Pakistan

[@arshaddurrani3885]

The big question remains; How do we persuade the army to give up its interference in governance and to accept civilian supremacy? Are we ready to make personal sacrifices to confront the army through organised public agitation?

[@watchhere6200]

Loved this concept man

[@shuvampaik]

If I ever visit Pakistan, I'll definitely go to the Black Hole Auditorium. They are really amazing people. ❤

[@rafiqekhan]

Discussion based on reality

[@upendrashukla1441]

Nayyar Saheb used the word Dawa, dawat many times. This one reflects Islamic expansionism.

[@amitdalvi73]

Dear Madam and Sir, 1. Greetings of the Independence Day of Pakistan. 2. Indeed very interesting discussion. An honest exchange of ideas, though I feel that the understanding about India and its challenges is somewhat shallow. You may like to compare some social indices of Jammu and Kashmir with those of Pak Occupied Kashmir. 3. The questions asked by the youth specially by the young girl was very hard hitting. I must compliment your panel for not ducking or avoiding any of the questions. 4. In end, I gained some insights about the current situation of things at your end. As a student of international relations, your discussion was thought provoking and intellectually very mature. Kudos to your panel and the audience. With warm regards

[@Bharatiya1998]

It is a shame, very few subscribers.

[@SomnathDe-h7d]

Watching from India.

[@nasirmustafa2492]

Great panel

[@Slayer123-g6v]

Why they not mentioned india abolished jameendari in after got independence pakistan mein abhi bhi he

[@mbv1462]

76 years of independence and Independence kitna hai

[@RajSingh-yd8ue]

Can someone from pakistan explain this independence? Independence from whom?

[@skpadf2938]

Dr. Hoodbhoy Why worry about population . More pakistani means more migration to foreign countries and this will help devlop many islamic pakistans worldwide . One day sheria laws will come and entire world will be Islam. The purpose of creating Pakistan will be achieved. So enjoy population growth ,this will prove most exportable item.

[@agnostic1857]

1857 main musalman raaj kar rahe the? Kuch bhi.

[@AshokGupta-oq6hs]

Sir, please note Independence Day Message on Kashmir and Nuclear arsenal.

[@deveshwarprasaduniyal5021]

I am exited to see Pakistani farmers in uniform. 👍😃

[@ilyasrana4545]

In Islam we stand number 1, I do not know where Pakistan stands lolz ,moulana Gen zia modeed aur bhutto islamic mullah zindabad,welcome to 1973 islamic Pakistan.

[@gurindersingh3001]

Sir,Pls do programe on India also

[@thedpkk]

Shakil sahab ❤👏

[@vinodkhanduri2214]

Some time I pity Pakistan for being into hands of greedy politicians and highly selfish army who have looted Pakistan .and above all religious biggotery has added to the misery. May God bless them

[@upadhyayrathiraj1518]

Bahadur Shah Zafar wasn't ruling "India" in 1856. These Mughals were satraps established by the Marathas after the defeat of Afghans. This reading of wrong history is the root cause of Pakistan's state of being an "International Beggar".