XP-Pen Artist 24 Pro Gen 2 Review(s)

[@surrcram]

XP-Pen being the first non-wacom tablet line to have more than 60hz refresh rate instantly bumps it up in the drawing tablet rankings for me.

[@faelwolf1177]

I've been indifferent to more than 60hz on a drawing display. I can't see the advantage of a higher refresh rate for drawing. Though if it's going to be your only monitor, it could make sense. But I don't game on a small monitor, and the game I play has to be locked at a lower refresh rate to run well at 4K anyway (flight sim), so I use a very large HDR 4K smart TV, which covers all my gaming and entertainment needs. Much cheaper than a large 4K monitor as well. So what is the advantage for art specifically to have a faster refresh rate?

[@surrcram]

@faelwolf1177 I've used a galaxy tab for drawing at 120hz, and it provides a surprisingly good drawing experience if you draw with little to no stabilization, but I'm only considering it an actual lifesaver on heavier workloads like drawing pages of comics where there's considerable memory-use and the program slows down. I'm currently using a convertible laptop for drawing locked at 60hz, and there is virtually no difference if you get used to it, although I now bump up my stabilization to get cleaner strokes. Although I personally prefer the drawing experience on the 120hz tablet, if that counts for anything. Overall, I'd say it matters if you're a stickler for drawing experience and pen smoothness like me. I do value getting close to drawing on paper on a screen. It's not an imperative feature, but it certainly offers creature comforts.

[@faelwolf1177]

It's been nice to see XP-Pen and Huion stepping up their game the past year or so. Wacom is even having to start lowering their prices a bit now on their tablets in this size range. Real competition at work. With the large side bezels, I'd have liked to have seen express keys instead of the separate controller, or some way to mount the controller to either side at least. But at half the price of the Xencelabs, and one third the price of a Wacom, hard to complain about anything! There's a technical reason for the large bezels. The EMR digitizers get jittery and inaccurate at the edges, so the bezels let the manufacturer put the edges of the digitizer panel past the drawing area to eliminate that issue for the user. The issue is due to the way the grid mapping relies on the surrounding grid to establish the coordinates, and power enough signal strength for the RFID chip in the pen. So when there are few or no grid points around the pen tip, things get unreliable. Some manufacturers take it a step further for a hand rest, but there is a rather large minimum bezel (by current standards) for this kind of digitizer. You'll also find it on the non-monitor pads that use the same tech, though those tend to use the minimum bezel size.

[@fix0the0spade]

I'm a long (long, long) time owner of a Cintiq 24hd and I have to say that express keys sounds nice, but in practice are useless on a tablet this big. Imagine sitting at a table drawing, then having to reach for the very edge of the table every time you want to change tools. It's a really big movement that gets uncomfortable quickly. I have a Tourbox connected to mine now, having long since abandoned using the express keys. A remote that can sit under your natural hand position is much more practical.

[@MightGuy15]

​@fix0the0spade I was just about to say this I had the original artist 24 Pro and I almost never used the wheel or Express keys because it took so much more effort to reach when using a tablet this big. XP pen seem to have been doing their homework Express Keys work well on small tablets where you can easily and on the edge but for Monster tablets like this one it's a bit of a liability

[@faelwolf1177]

@@fix0the0spade I use a 20" monitor, and a manipulator arm, so my natural drawing position allows me to rest my hand on the left edge of the monitor, and have my express keys set up for the most commonly used functions. Between that and the quick access pop-up in Krita, it takes very little movement to change brushes, etc. I get a lot of use out of my express keys. But not knocking those with a different workflow! I may find a similar issue though, if I move to one of these larger tablets, so I'll keep that in mind!

[@hannahdeards9652]

I was looking forward to this review! I bought the tablet a couple days after it came out and I'm still waiting for it to arrive. I'm glad that your review of it was good 😅

[@kathir4717]

Good for you. don't give up on your art

[@MightGuy15]

Which one did you get the 4K 1 or the 120 refresh rate one

[@hannahdeards9652]

​​@@MightGuy15 I chose the 4K one because I tend to get very close to my screen (RIP my posture) and I doubt I'd be able to notice any bump in frame rate. (It's 165hz, not 140hz btw) All my previous monitors have been 60hz. I think the boosted Hz might be a bit of a gimmick, but maybe it's genuinely useful to some people. I do game, but I don't play usually games where the frame rate is important. I have an iPad pro which supposedly has 120hz and I've never noticed the difference (I just looked it up now to see if there was a difference. I wasn't aware beforehand haha)

[@hannahdeards9652]

​@@kathir4717Thank you, random stranger! Honestly there's such a lack of jobs in the industry at the moment (well, animation), it really has made me question whether I want to keep trying to make this my job :( I just moved from the UK to Australia to live with my partner. I hope I can find something soon 😅

[@cammiluna]

I'm someone who holds the 16 inch xppen on my lap and I appreciate the large bezels. I'm hoping next gen has the 165hz refresh rate on their smaller units! Also. That shortcut remote (and the one that comes with all older models) has a dongle-free bluetooth connection function if you hold the center circle button for 6 seconds. XP-Pen's support chat has a firmware upgrade they can send you when asked that'll make the shortcut remote useable on android and iPad. The Android app to program the buttons is on the xppen remote drivers website and not the google play store at this time. Also, Samsung programmed physical space bars for their galaxy tabs for something and can't be used to pan canvases in any art app, so you'll have to program the hand tool in CSP to another keyboard shortcut and assign that on the remote. Just throwing that in there!

[@Just_a_commenter]

@@cammiluna This is excellent info! I had no idea there was some firmware update available to make it work on Android, and after getting one to use with my S8 Ultra while connected to my PC, this means I could get it to work on Android too... Much appreciated!

[@cammiluna]

@@Just_a_commenter XP-Pen doesn't actively promote this! The only reason why I found out at all was because their website started listing the remote as a recommended accessory for the Magic Drawing Pad, so I ended up doing a 4am deep dive on the internet on how to make my remote work on Android and ended up on a Reddit post that mentioned the firmware update. I booted up support chat and they threw me a link in less that five minutes! Now i use the remote for my Galaxy Tab S6 Lite and I can't function without it anymore!

[@cammiluna]

@@Just_a_commenter No problem! This isn't even promoted by XP-pen itself. once I saw the remote being a recommended accessory for the magic drawing pad, i had to do some deep diving on the internet and found a reddit post that explained the firmware update. if you connect the remote to the android xppen remote app and you see the names of the button shortcuts, the firmware is already up to date. if all the shortcut labels are blank, then go to the xppen chat and they'll cough you up a link and instructions in 3 minutes.

[@cammiluna]

@@Just_a_commenter i reeplied twice but the comment keeps getting deleted and this isn't even illegal data. XP-Pen has the android support APK on their very website and if you chat with their support line to say you want your remote to work on android, they will pass you a firmware update, legally and for free. i dont see why this has to be deleted

[@Just_a_commenter]

@@cammiluna Much appreciated for the explanation! As far as the replies going poof, I know how you feel. Sometimes KZbin is like that - certain phrases may get comments deleted with zero explanation or hidden pending approval by the channel owner. You could say something completely innocuous, and your comment can vanish into the aether. Source: I've made thousands of comments and notice patterns. Just know it's likely KZbin and _not_ Brad doing it.

[@jamesbullo]

I miss the red dials on Xp-pen devices. It's so fast and easy to change brush size, and it's so satisfying.

[@Just_a_commenter]

Now *this* is a review I was looking forward to seeing from you. I greatly value your input and these devices look fantastic on paper, so I'm curious what your experience was like! Will update comment after watching the video entirely. Edit: At this point I am very interested in getting the 165hz version. My eyes are fairly sensitive to differences in screen frequency, so while the hz bump may not be as noticeable to others, I think I do have a higher likelihood of noticing and valuing the higher refresh rate. It helps that the 165hz version is also cheaper, but the resolution is perfectly fine, too. For the longest time I've used 1440p screens at various sizes, and at 23.8" this device still has a pixel density of 123PPI, putting it around the middle of the 110-140PPI range for comfortable viewing. Would I notice the clarity bump by going to 4K for 185PPI on a 23.8" display? Probably. Would I prefer a higher refresh rate over that extra clarity? Almost certainly. Gonna put some serious consideration into buying this display.

[@3polygons]

It gets warmer, tho...

[@Just_a_commenter]

@@3polygons Not a concern for me. I already have a fan blowing at my setup to circulate air in my computer room, and I always draw with a glove on, so it should be fine.

[@kajlilaro]

This has been my dream tablet since they released the 2nd gen 16 version. I knew holding out until they made a 24inch one would be worth it

[@Olat67]

Perfect timing man 😂 i was looking for reviews about this tablet.

[@faelwolf1177]

Same here, I don't spend this kind of money without thoroughly researching first.

[@Olat67]

@faelwolf1177 Yeah, especially at these prices. You need to know every detail.

[@atoaster2070]

Looks amazing! Would you recommend this over the latest Huion models?

[@orangesystem969]

As the owner of these Chinese-made tablets, I can confirm they get the job done. However, my Huion tablet only lasted four years, and finding a service center in my country has been quite challenging. Is anyone else facing similar issues?

[@somethingelse928]

Do you recommend spending a 1k $ on these tablets ? Or is it not as efficient as the wacom?

[@Turtlpeach2326]

Hi brad i just got the new iPad mini and im new to drawing. Your old intro to drawing videos are very helpful. I really want to take the intro to drawing lessons over on your website but it’s too expensive for me after just buying a new iPad and Apple Pencil. When do you think you can do a 50% or better discount on the 60 day of drawing lessons. Thanks. I’ve been following you since the surface go 2 video came out. Thanks again you and Ryan Trahan our my favorite KZbinrs. I want to be an animator for Disney when i grow up and your like my hero :). Thanks for all the good videos and the help with drawing.

[@Zalami84]

Just an FYI, 0% smoothing in Photoshop doesn't fully disable smoothing, you need to go into the brush properties and uncheck it there to completely turn it off.

[@Enigmanaut]

It never fails, right when you do the Glove Dance, KZbin decides to interrupt with an ad.

[@TheKevphil]

For my Huion 24" 2.5K, I prefer the lower resolution when it comes to overall UI legibility. Now, if I had the Huion 27", I think the full 4K would be perfect. The price here on the 2.5K is pretty amazing.

[@pollyanabeatriz7662]

Perfect time to open KZbin and see another amazing review of this channel, Good morning

[@STUDIO7Collectibles]

I got the gen 2 60hz 4k model and no matter what settings i use in Windows display panels or nvidia control panels it is so soft and blurry at every scale. But my 250 dollar 4k montior is crystal sharp.

[@nicktyler2572]

Quite unexpected... I thought Brad will cheer for 4k. But he says QHD and 4k not much difference, and 160hz makes it more multi purpose? There are not much reviews yet, but I've heard some guys admire "how smooth stroke feels on 160hz". Tbh I don't know about that... I work all my life on 60hz Dell monitors + Wacom Intuos pro and I never felt any lags I could perceive while drawing. Also I'm surprised Brad didn't say a word about new super color management improvements. Xppen really pumps it loud, and previous gen was quite far behind in colors from Cintiq pro.

[@olahaldor]

Do you happen to have a friend who does sculpting in Zbrush or similar? I'm on the fence, wondering which XP-PEn to buy. All gen 2, but 19", 24 4K or 24 165Hz. I'm especially curious about the 165Hz, and how it feels to sculpt in Zbrush, but it seems XP-Pen favors review units to 2D artists, which is a pity.. I gather what you're saying is there is still the certain "input lag", in lack of a better term, between the pen and the display showing the new strokes. So the benefit of 165Hz does not really help at all? Would love to see someone using it in sculpting telling me their experience, whether the 165Hz is worth it, or if a 60Hz (still, sadly..) is t he way to go.

[@nervusbreakdown]

I got my first tablet from XP Pen, I think it was the 15.6 (not the pro). I loved it and still use it to this date, however, I am ready for a bigger screen that will last me for years. I will give this one to my daughter because she loves to draw. If not I will make a little girl happy, I have a co-worker that she tells me her daughter is a talent artist. Now for this one, I will get this by the end of this year and might take Brad classes in case if I am missing something.

[@nocturnalbluerose]

I wish i could trade in my old xpen 24inch for a discount on this one.

[@CherryMonPlayz]

Hi Brad pls make a video about drawing remotes for iPad pls

[@robinsonrojas9995]

Me hubiese gustado que hicieras un acercamiento a la pantalla.....para poder observar si existe esa desagradable borrosidad que provoca la textura del vidrio. Me da la impresión que podría ser mas notoria en la version 4K. Qué puedes decir al respecto?? Y otra cosa, creo que la linea divisoria entre Wacom y las "otras marcas" (XP PEn, Huion...) está desapareciendo......sin embargo, aún no se si confiar en la durabilidad de las "otras marcas"...aunque sean mas baratas su valor no deja de ser considerable.

[@penholder7765]

Try watch Teoh Yie Chie vid on the comparison between a 4k Huion and a 4k Xppen (19inch display tablet). The vid just released yesteday btw.

[@MrMini500]

I wish I could have this for my project I work on in blender and stuff.. man pretty nice. Love the video!

[@Serenity279]

I would genuinely love a color calibration video

[@chrismcnair6646]

Brad, been watching your videos all morning. What would you say is the best wired only (no-bluetooth) display/non-display tablet overall? Especially with a beginner in mind. My wireless needs are due to company policy.

[@caebo]

Hey brad! How good is the pen tilt compensation? I have the 16 inch one and there is a lot of cursor offset when tilting. I also heard that the glass is thicker than in the 16 inch one.

[@gmcubed]

Dang, I would have thought the higher refresh rate would have solved any perceived lag going on, I guess not. I wish Microsoft would collab with tablet manufacturers or something to get the lag down to stand alone tablet level.

[@86lanzo]

At this point..i think we're at diminishing returns ..i have the last gen xp pen artist 24 pro.... Whats the reason to upgrade??.. All these tablets are at a good standard now.. 4kvs 2k doesnt make much of a difference when its only a 24 inch display.. 60fps vs 120 fps doesn't make much difference when your pc is powerful enough..and in gaming you still need v-sync or g-sync.. Pen pressure is solid all around.. Wobble is good all round now. Drawing tablets are at the apex now.. What they need to do now..is make them all in one PCs..with decent batteries so i can move around with them.. That maybe the next step..put a powerfull lil 6840u AMD PC on the back

[@htsunmiku]

This is more for people who haven't updated in years (basically like most tech now) I'm still using a huion kamvas pro 13 2017/18

[@hannahdeards9652]

​@@htsunmikuYeah, I'm upgrading from a 2008 cintiq and a small iPad pro to this. I'm getting this most recent model, because I want to be using it at least 5 years into the future, ideally more. My idea is that it will be supported for longer than the old gen, so I can use it well into the future with no problems. It has some subtle but good differences (etched glass vs AG film, slightly better pen, better colours) but those certainly don't justify an upgrade if nothing about the OG version is broken. I don't think these are like iPhones where you're expected to upgrade every couple of years (not that I ever have lol)

[@86lanzo]

@@htsunmiku good point

[@BhabaBlakeship]

All display tablets (Xppen or Huion or gaomon) which come out the past 3 years are acceptable and stil reliable in my opinion. These new released models are for those who doesn't own any display tablet, or they own one but smaller screen size, so they want to upgrade a bigger size tablet. They are actually the target audience.

[@osku388]

There is so much to do better still. I have the Artist 24 and the contrast is pretty bad for one. I can't see anything in dark scenes. Next obvious steps for displays are OLED and better pen tilt/rotate

[@mini-taur3904]

Hey, I was wondering if you'd tried out the Kindle scribe. Seems a lot like the remarkable, and I was considering it earlier.

[@SeeBensketchfanmadevid]

I love your videos so much Brad

[@dvw.]

I wonder why bezel so huge? I don't really rest my hand on bezel. They need to make thin compact 27 inch OLED, like Movink but bigger.

[@don-dori]

If I may ask, is there much of a difference in color banding between 4k and 165hz model? The 4k has FRC on 8bit panel while 165hz does not. I'm surprised nobody actually went into more detail comparing the actual differences between the two models and chose to only review one of the two. Like comparing line speed, fluidity, smoothness, color accuracy, color banding, and well... sharpness. Is the fake 10bit and extra color accuracy actually worth the extra $200+ on the 4k panel?

[@samueldraws]

Hey Brad! Thanks for the review I know a lot of these screens have a certain level of blue to them due to the fact of the screen being etched. But I keep hoping that as the technology gets more refined the blurriness will continue to diminish until it finally goes away. How would you say the blurriness of these is? I briefly had a 24 inch 2.5k Huion that I had to return because the blur gave me migraines.

[@daveyshark]

as a wacom guy my first response was blimey, that's cheap! and a second pen that's another £80

[@WelbornJeff]

I have the XP-Pen 24 Pro from a few years ago and it works great! Buuuut I am tempted to upgrade to one of these. Would it be worth it?

[@BhabaBlakeship]

From what i see after watching this vid, not worth it. Brad seems like to prefer the 165Hz more than the 4k version because he stated that the resolution not that different. So, i'll pass that one. And as with the 165hz, it has a downside, it's get warmer as the screen have to do double the works compare to the 60hz one (as Brad reviewed in the video). I'm afraid the 165hz version might be failed a little sooner than expected. The only upgrade you really get is the new pen tech. I watch reviews, and people still buying the 24 inch you have although it came out years ago. If you really want to step up, better go for bigger screen than the one you own and screen size does matter than the pen tech. Right now, Huion and Wacom have them but costly.

[@WelbornJeff]

I do believe you are right. Thanks!

[@christosgikas735]

​@@BhabaBlakeshipnope the 165hz is cold as ice...worked with it 8 hours non stop with full brightnes and the heat was minimal...😊

[@BhabaBlakeship]

@@christosgikas735 Good for you, but Brad review on the warm part compare to the 4k one is not to take for granted. I trust Brad on this as he reviewed tons of display tablets before, he knows what he is doing.

[@BrokDraws]

NO WAY I WAS WAITING FOR THIS :D!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@PaulKaseta]

Hey Brad another great video. XP Pen and Huion have come such a long way to be Wacom competitors. I just recently got a Cintiq 16 and love it but ive tried al lthese as well and IDK what it is about the cintiq, it has less features than these newer ones but I just like it better. Side note question, You mentioned in a response before intrigue in a comic im making (Noir detective dog) was curious if you have a way or interest, for me to send you the page I have done and get your feedback or opinion? If not its ok figure it cant hurt to ask.

[@thebradcolbow]

Yeah! Hit me up using the contact form over on my site. I'll keep an eye out for it!

[@heirloomportrait9562]

So what calibration device work with these? Are they really not coming factory calibrated?

[@franciscodetonne4797]

Basically a drawing tablet that you can also game on? What a deal 😂

[@parytosh]

yo i have the most starred tablet in amazon it is deez xp pen deco 640

[@Rebelnightwolfe]

2:10 How's that adobe suite treating you? lol

[@redford4ever]

Great line test but no tilt test?

[@Szczurzyslawa]

Wait do you not have a regular usb cable for it to send data? Only usb-c??? That's a bummer...

[@eljuli1003]

Hey, Brad, any chances to review the latest Huawei matepad Pro 12.2 paper Matte Edition?

[@ezrolly898]

Didn't think of the heat. But still, 165hz for me. Right resolution at the right size plus i play games

[@candyandfruitc7496]

im still trying to figure out why do the alt wacom companies still have yet to input touch on their Display tablets? Like they've manage to hit all the boxes except for adding screen touch?

[@SchwarzeSun]

Artist 24 Pro (Gen2) 4K vs Artist Pro 19 (Gen 2) 4k?

[@deepseakraken89]

i bought the 24 4k and its arrive yesterday it looks like the old cintiq 24 which i like, i would have gone to get huion if they release a new gen for their 24 inch but they dont have that yet and 27 inch is kinda expensive, but anyway i like the xp pen 24 fits my needs and works great and looks good on my table i dispose my cintiq 22 the resolution is unworkable for me now

[@WelbornJeff]

I wonder if this setup would be possible: A stand with a rotating feature and a display tablet that with a button can switch orientation from landscape to portrait. So if you are drawing something wide or tall you can rotate the tablet accordingly. Is that possible with any known display?

[@kromal92]

Maybe stream deck macro controlling display orientation on system?

[@MaxPenguine]

GLove dance x 2 omg YES! ::) one for every screen.

[@Lazymartinez]

Can you tell us about the AG Etched Glass and AF Coating? How much texture does the screen offer when drawing? is it equal to the xp pen Gen 2 series tablets?

[@pahapasi9758]

Looks appealing, but I can't get behind any XP-Pen product anymore after my Artist 22R Pro died on me without any warning. All the pressure sensitivity just stopped working one day. Also the drivers are absolutely abysmal on these devices, and there is not support at all.

[@visualartsjavi]

Does this XP-Pen also have a rotation axis for the pen? It's one of those obscure things that almost no one uses, and I really enjoy. So being able to rotate the barrel of the pen and change the orientation of the brush like a calligraphic pen. Would love to know!

[@RaiLongLee]

Sadly seems only wacom have in some of thier products and recently apple pro pencil

[@ImPurpleTreasure]

Now Idk what to choose bc I've been looking at the Huion 24 4k but now this one looks amazing as well... I need a comparison 🙃

[@dhimankalita1690]

Theres a comparision vudeo i just watched and at the end he recommended the huion

[@kingkong-hm7zq]

What's better xp pen artist 16 2nd gen or huion kamvas 16 pro not the 2.5 k ?

[@ToddJumper]

Looks great. Good review.

[@neospiderman2165]

So how does this compares to the huion one?

[@infinite.omega.gamess]

I need them to make it touch screen.....

[@hammadraws]

What apps work with this. I'm coming from a iPad with procreate so I wanted to know if there was a similar app that works with this

[@Tfin]

WHAT. I have no idea why this video came up in my recommendations, as I've never looked for drawing tablets, and don't want one. What I do want, and what I've been looking for for years, is a 24" just plain monitor with good image quality and better dpi/refresh than the 1080/60hz that seems to be all there is. I certainly wouldn't get a pair of these for my PC, and yes, that bezel makes sure of that, but seeing this panel is somewhat confounding.

[@sozzyfox3541]

I need help deciding something: (looking for a stand alone device for art) should i buy the tab p12+pen plus or should i buy the tab s6 lite (2024) (the tab s9 Fe is more expensive were i live,taht is why im asking)

[@Christopher-r2e]

How many nits on these two? Did i miss the spec? Sorry if so

[@daveyshark]

would you know the 4k's weight without the stand?

[@peepijeep]

Hello, can I have installed Wacom drivers (for my wacom tablats) and XP driver at the same time? Or have I to one of these drivers everytime I want to switch my tablets?

[@86lanzo]

This will not work well for gaming.. I have the previous gen 24pro...i use it for gaming its not great..60 fps is fine for gaming..but as monitor it doesnt have g sync or free sync ...so theres alot of screen tearing even though i have a 3090 and everything is locked to 60fps..the performance is not great looking to buy a gaming monitor right now..to game and have references up. Not sure if this is touch screen also??

[@shipisleaving]

any info on the response time? for games :p

[@hackareslacksbruh430]

Tempting... But I think I'll hold off for awhile.

[@lunchplus]

Hey brad, could you confirm if these support HDR? That's my main gripe with drawing tablets. I use a macbook air and a monitor with HDR and i really cant draw comfortably on drawing tablets with mere 250 nits and below brightness. HDR usually "boosts" that to 400 and up so im curious. P.S. I actually switched back to a drawing tab because of this and im looking for the next tablet to support HDR.

[@lunchplus]

btw a good tip might be to lower the refresh rate when drawing, and have wacom support that through a shortcut button

[@muranziel]

God I want that 1440p 165hz XP Pen!

[@fuadf4638]

Is there a pentab that is compatible with Android 14? Mine samsung tab A9+ with xppen deco fun s. It's not compatible 😔

[@kobopanda2476]

I want a ruler test

[@angelrodriguez8714]

Hey Brad. That shoe string only happens in Photoshop.

[@ProjectDefi]

I'm a tattoo artist. I dable in illustration also. It's funny how a normal artist pushes their lines. I always pull my lines

[@evaander]

Is it a touch screen ?

[@TBTLfxx]

No, if it had that i would cost atleast 200 more

[@c0sm1c-b0y]

for art 4k > qhd 165hz all day... I can't understand why they didn't make only one version with 4k 100hz or 75 at least... or better yet one with 60 hz but 10bit...

[@xRamada]

still chilling with wacom tbh

[@DevTheRay]

I miss your theme song playing at the beginning and end of your videos

[@ShadowClawss]

Hello there, did anyone know what is the stylus pen name the smaller and the larger one? I wanted to buy them separately but I don't know the stylus name. Can anyone tell me please?😃

[@xSPAZNSPARTANx]

1440p (2K) is soooo underrated. It's better than 1080p and more affordable than 4K.

[@theamazingmikelee9857]

By the by, 1440p is not 2K.

[@christosgikas735]

Just came today the 165hz..i also have the huion kanvas 24 4k...so decided to take the 165hz and boy ohhh boy...the speed is ingredible

[@Tokka-_-0]

Hey, Im planning to upgrade to a 24 inch monitor, Its between Huion Kamvas 24 4k or this XP pen 24 inch, I would love to know your personal reccomendation since you own both. Ive been drawing on a 16 inch huion for 4 years now, Im quite used to the brand.

[@christosgikas735]

​@@Tokka-_-0 they are both great but the xp pen is new model and gives ypu more accesories...i would recomment the 4k xppen expect if you want yo use the monitor also as a pc display...Then go with the 165hz...1440p and 4k is not very big difference...

[@Tokka-_-0]

@@christosgikas735 Oh I'm planning on using it only for drawing, I already have a 34 inch 4k 180hz monitor for gaming, animation and video editing, So I dont mind getting the 4k with 60hz since I won't use it for gaming, But if you say XP pen is better then I'll get it, I always used to hear people say the Huion has better pen technology and better drawing experience, but it seems in your experience XP has bridged the gap with this new 24 inch monitor.

[@Rahaditya94]

"Do both Huion and XP-Pen pen display support and connect to the new iPad Pro M4 with USB-C to USB-C? Has anyone tried this?"

[@fablewalls]

XP-Pen have also made their own Android tablet - the "Magic Pad" - same size as a Samsung S10+ but £400 less.... quickly looking at it, there's none of the Samsung / Android bloatware?

[@jeofthevirtuoussand]

why can't xp pen make a 1440p for the 22 inches???? , 4k is useless at 24 inches , the gains over 1440p at 24 inches are small ( 122 ppi vs 186ppi ) ,seems big , but the bigger the ppi value is , the noticeable the increases are, especially if you have the display at 50 cm from the eyes , for instance , 1440p would be too low for 27 inches tablets ( 108 ppi ) if the 22 inches tablets were at 1440p instead of 1080p , we would get 134 ppi instead 100ppi , 34 ppi differences at this scale ,the difference is bigger than the 44ppi between 4k an 1440o at 24 inches

[@Mithlinthar]

Okay, there's a Glove Dance, so I click Like.

[@hollowed.puppy.chan19]

probably buy that next year haha

[@nahrest]

fire

[@arnoldokwi]

Please just make a color calibration video instead cause I get confused on what it is

[@Aqwtiny]

Love XP pen because these items just came out and they’re already on sale lmao.

[@robertdufour2456]

Oh my! Mr Brad, make it clearer to understand!

[@Aqwtiny]

People who get drawing tablets and iPads for gaming is peak consumerism lmao

[@MaheerKibria]

So you want high refresh rate for animation or video-related work. But you want specifically 120Hz or variable refresh rate. 120 goes into all the common animation frame rates you might use 12, 24, 15, 30, and 60. It has very little to do with lag or latency or for gaming. There is a reason Wacom picked that refresh rate. The 165Hz on this seems to be a bigger number better as you might expect from someone who doesn't understand why the feature is there. For gaming, I just know that getting the ghosting, latency and other things down is not always well done and so I am just not sold that this would make a good gaming monitor so it needs to stand on its own for art and the choice of 165Hz without mentioning VRR has me questioning whether it would actually be good for what you would want a higher refresh rate monitor in art which is animation.

[@Antisympathy]

It’s still computer dependent? anyone even see 4k yet anyway? 👀 Can’t really call it a tablet if it still needs a computer to operate so it just a monitor imo…😮

[@NaPH273]

imagine spending 1k$ on a graphic tablet that has Gaming as a key selling point OMEGALUL

[@shipisleaving]

if u have only 1 machine its hard to enjoy games on a slow 60hz drawing tablet. plus, large tablets take up a lot of desk space if use another monitor to play games. these new tablets can b multipurpose

[@NaPH273]

@@shipisleaving i dont think people planning to buy tablets of this size have limited desk space in the first place

[@mapachelimon]

I do not know why XP Pen, in its promotion emphasizes that its tablets have no lag, because of the increase of Hz...I don't know why they pretend to deceive people with something that is a lie, since the lag depends on your computer and the program you use. It seems that they have learned from apple, adding unnecessary things just to put them big in the ads, even though it doesn't really serve any purpose at a functional level. I don't mean that it's not a good thing to have more hertz, of course it is, but not for the reasons they try to sell.

[@86lanzo]

Its not really deception..some lag can be caused by the tablet itself..but in this case there's no lag because of the tablet.

[@gin633]

50/50

[@Jj82op]

@@86lanzo that is not actually correct. The latency created by the pen itself will be the same no matter what, this is basically just a monitor so all the lag depends on your PC. The faster refresh rate only makes the cursor or menus opening smoother but it has no difference in performance, it just looks better.

[@mapachelimon]

​@@86lanzo it's not true. The tablet is a display, the cursor follow the pen, and the latency is caused by the performance of the computer and app you are using. It’s like a game. A videogame can run to 120hz in a 120hz screen, but the lag is generated by the performance of the computer or the internet connection in online mode, not the hz. It has no sense to promote that the hz generates no lag. It’s a lie.

[@LadyBlair.S]

I have the huion kamvas 22. Its only 500$ but about the same size, and i guess i dont get what the point is in upgrading. I mean sure these things look nicer but at the end of the day a drawing is a drawing, and the tool really does not matter. Its just kinda a waste of money.

[@BhabaBlakeship]

At this point, all display tablets ( Xppen or Huion or gaomon) which come out the past 3 years are acceptable in my opinion. The new released models are for those who doesn't own any display tablet, so they are the target audience.

[@davidgeorgemahl4313]

I'm here only for the GLOVE DANCE (jk)

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

High refresh rate 4K for gaming? You need a super expensive graphics card for that, and by that point you'll not be gaming on your drawing tablet anyway. 1440p makes more sense for gaming, specially at this size, because you won't be as close to the screen as you are when you're drawing, so you won't get the benefit of 4K when gaming.

[@3polygons]

Indeed, the it's the 1440p the one with high refresh rate. The 4k one has a lower refresh rate.

[@airun5362]

Anything today will be cheaper than wacom and apple..

[@GwenVIBANCOS]

Noob editing problem at 2:09... It's unacceptable for a 875k subscribers channel

[@JMulvy]

Higher frames and refresh rates beyond a certain threshold are a money dump. Anatomically speaking, the human eye can not perceive a noticeable difference higher than 60 fps except in animation, but even then the most people have been able to notice a difference is 200 fps maybe a little more than that? The highest most average people notice is actually around 120 fps. Now the first thing people bring up is games at 600 fps, but that is not because it looks better to your eye, that is so it can perform better on the machine. You can crash games if your frames are too low or your computer's GPU doesn't support a reasonable minimum of frame rates, jus fyi.

[@ezrolly898]

Dude i saw my nephew playing a game @ 120hz (first time seeing a high refresh rate monitor) and it was obviously noticable immediately even without a 60hz panel near for comparison.

[@JMulvy]

@@ezrolly898 yeah... in animation most people will notice upwards of 200... like I said. Video games are animated. Anymore than that is pretty pointless because our eyes do not notice a difference.

[@akeemmorrison2589]

@@JMulvy Maybe not in farming simulator but my 240hz is certainly a noticeable bump from 144hz in valorant and cod. We can even notice the differnec of 480hz monitors in CS2.

[@JMulvy]

@@akeemmorrison2589 240 is not a lot more than 200, you are talking about a 20% increase overall, which I said some people can notice. However, sorry to say that when talking about 480 at least half of that is image render speed. Making it look more fluid to your eye. You are not noticing all 480 frames / second, at most your noticing 200 - 240, maybe. but it is processing at double the speed that you are used to. If you were to get real technical the math would suggest you are actually seeing every other frame of the animation because the in between frames are moving too fast for the human eye to see. It is really fascinating stuff. For example if you go too high your eyes will notice what looks like stuttering but it is just your eyes noticing every third frame, fourth frame, fifthe frame, etc. Then if you go ridiculously higher anything that moves in the animation will appear to be moving so fast you can't see it anymore.

[@chidorirasenganz]

tbh anything beyond 30 fps for gaming as a waste

[@akeemmorrison2589]

ok boomer

[@chidorirasenganz]

@ it’s a boomer take to care about high fps