You Again ~ My Ending "Unforgiven"

Bullies getting a happy ending?? Nonsense...

[@imsungjaesmelody.thesnorte5623]

I absolutely hated this movie for downplaying Marnies trauma and the family so easily forgiving JJ. Instead they blame the victim who NEVER GOT A SINCERE APOLOGY. She only apologized when everything was out. I would have disowned my family if they did this to me.

[@Truffles563]

I wouldn't have come to that wedding at all and I wouldn't have accepted an apology I had to demand. Any time you have to demand an apology and say you deserved one, it's insincere if you get it.

[@gabbypeng5858]

Honestly I never understood why the hell the parents did not chew JJ out for what she did to Marnie, I mean for gods sake that was their daughter and after seeing the torment Marnie had to suffer at the hands of their precious daughter in law they got mad at Marnie for revealing what happened to her in high school? Time may have past, but JJ’s actions afterwards did not show that she’s turned over a new leaf and can they even imagine how much Marnie have endured and suffered?

[@Meattyfattie]

Yuppp same for her brother.

[@PurpledaisyShasta]

If my sibling married my bully I would have done the same thing and publicly disowned him. If I had any siblings

[@TheRedDragon54]

Gabby Peng Bullies will always be bullies The only way to make them learn is to destroy their lives break their bones and make them bleed and then kill them

[@imgreat6228]

EXACTLY!!!! This movie made me furious!!!😡😩

[@davidrichter9164]

It's a fucking movie!!! Don't be such a baby!!!!😭😭😭

[@lankhanhle3876]

Lmao I can't never get over how Marni's brother, JJ's aunt and JJ kept going on about Marni destroying the best day of their lives meanwhile JJ destroyed Marni's 4 years of highschool. I mean if I was Marni, the first time I met JJ I would have beaten the crap out of her and told my brother I would never give the blessings.

[@dobbysboggart6883]

No, not resort to violence. Just tell the brother she's having a difficult time accepting Joanne as a sister. Or force the issue with Joanne that first night, instead of sleeping in the tree house.

[@kohakuhime7887]

Yeah all of the good stuff JJ had done does not and will never make up for what she did in the past. I didn't understand why they were mad at Marni when she had exposed JJ for being a liar.

[@mikayonfilm198]

I also think thesame, at some point I think they’re all just selfish that they didn’t even care about Marni’s feelings. I used to love this when I was young but after rewatching this movie it’s just a whole different story. “You ruined what supposed to be the best day of my life” like WOW- HIS SISTER SUFFERED FOR 4 FUCKING YEARS.

[@ivygirl9119]

Ngl, I barely remember what happened but I don't understand why she didn't just tell her brother (unless she did)

[@cathyhopkins2151]

@@dobbysboggart6883 crazy jj threw plates at marni’s head bffr

[@Starbits7]

When JJ pretends not to know Marni & then later does these little hints, poking at her (like playing 'we are the champions'), it proves that she's still got it in her. She's still a bully, messing with Marni's head. That to me, is the reason she didn't deserve a happy ending. Does bother me that no one else in the family saw how tortured Marni was. AND it bother's me that Marni's achievements were just brushed over so quickly. I know this is a comedy but when I see things like this it makes me feel bad for everyone actually going through something like that. I wasn't bullied ever but I do know what it's like to work really hard for things and for family to just go 'that's nice' and go back to focusing on your siblings. It feels awful. So yeah, I'll never side with the happy ending here. The only reason Marni set everything up was to make peace with the family. And really, she had one bad night. JJ spent years torturing her. An apology is all Marni should have done and JJ should have been the one trying to make amends.

[@Demaad]

And JJ eventually did. Yeah she had to lose to give it, but isn't that better. To finally know the pain you gave to others after feeling it yourself. That made her apology at the end genuine.

[@Gamer1234brendan]

Marni had a good ending though that boy staring at her he liked marni even when she was mess

[@Gamer1234brendan]

I mean her grandma pretty set her up with the boy

[@rachelbloss2708]

Well that and the whole fact that her mom should've understood especially when she and Joanna aunt had history.

[@debasreebhattacharya4241]

YES

[@philipcearley1992]

I agree with Marni's decision, she deserves to have a real apology, but no, Joanna continues to be so cruel.

[@dominicxavier2805]

It's just a frickin movie!!!

[@dobbysboggart6883]

She shouldn't have sprung the video on the whole party. A couple days earlier, she should have told Will that what they had to talk about was more important than practicing for a marathon.

[@icalossity]

@@dobbysboggart6883 I think she should have told him YEARS ago in the tree house when he asked her who it was that called her a loser

[@MrFilmfan86]

@@dominicxavier2805 Its more then a movie, its a portrayal of we view the world, and whats happening inside it. Bullying is very real!! People that make themselves happy at the expense of others are terrible people!!

[@MrFilmfan86]

Exactly, if she had truly changed she would have realized her mistakes and owned up to them. This humiliation was karma, a well deserved payback, she got to experience the same torture that she made poor marni endured in high school!

[@MochieeeMoon]

Joanna is only sorry because she got caught. 😂 She didn’t even properly apologized to Marni. She just manipulated her so that Marni could feel sorry for her.

[@ivygirl9119]

Right? Like wasn't she still messing with her throughout the entire movie?? The hell?😂

[@Jeff_Pryce]

Not exactly true. Joanna told her aunt on the same night of this before the reception that she had made a “big mistake” that she didn’t know how to fix. The big mistake she was referring to was how she bullied Marni in high school. Joanna was remorseful, but by that point, things had escalated into all-out war between them. She realized too late that she needed to fix things, because by this point, Marni decided that if she wasn’t getting an apology, she’d do whatever it takes to make sure that her high school bully wasn’t going to be a part of her family.

[@MochieeeMoon]

@@Jeff_Pryce But she never really properly apologised, she might have a sense of guilt but she didn't officially apologised to Marni. Then in this video, she was like "IT WAS HIGHSCHool," which she keeps trying to excuse her actions even though Marni wanted an apology. Not to mention in the bathroom scene, her mean girl behaviour shows through again and she pretends that she doesn't know what Marni's talking about.

[@Truffles563]

@@Jeff_Pryce It doesn't count. She never reached out to Marnie herself and apologized properly. The refrigerator scene is right after she got caught and lost everything. Even then, it was insincere by then. She was only sorry about not getting married anymore. If Will wouldn't have canceled the wedding would she be sorry? I doubt it.

[@SM-hl6hh]

Don't get me wrong, what she did was WAY wrong and way out of line, but, she did have a point. People in this movie so UNDERPLAYED how much torture and pain she went through.

[@Lone_Wolf91]

I don’t think so. In my opinion showing that video was very much justified. I’d of done the same thing and I’m a guy. Joanna had everyone fooled even Marni’s own family that she was an angel when in fact she was a devil. Also if I was Marni I would’ve said to Will look I’m sorry if you wanna be mad at me fine but ask yourself this if you knew the way she was treating me in high school would you still have gone out with her and would you still be marrying her now. I’d then get on a plane back home hoping that Will now realizes he deserves better.

[@jesskhan09]

Showing the video was her last attempt to get a real apology.

[@datsweggybruh8775]

Also Will was an asshole. He blamed her equally to Joanna for ruining his *perfect* night and was too busy playing victim to show any sympathy at all. I agree that what Marni did was immature, she was basically stooping to Joanna's level, but his sister should be more important than his fiance. Even during highschool he hardly protected Marni at all. The closest he ever came to trying to help her and high school was giving that speech to make him look like a good person, even then she had to practically beg him to give her the attention. He could have used his reputation to stop the bullying or at least defend Marni but I guess he was worried about it being tarnished. The movie made him out to be "the popular kid who's actually a good person and protects his unpopular sibling"but if that were really true then Marni wouldn't have gone through the torment that she did. Seriously, where the hell was he?? And then he attempted to take the treehouse without a single word of it towards his siblings, and got all condescending towards Marni when she approached him about it. He's almost as toxic as Joanna.

[@CalebDix]

@@datsweggybruh8775 this 100%

[@jenelcameron4664]

The fact that marni could have done suicide and shit for what JJ did and no one hold her accountable for it. Like damn I wouldn’t want my son to marry someone like that. She had to really apologies to my daughter in front of the family just like how she bullied her in front the school. But what I find strange is how the brother never know like he went to the same school. I was very confuse about that part.

[@mu9173]

"It was high school !!!!!", the common excuse of all bullies. It's their grandest excuse to act as jerks and make other students life miserable. Yes, you can grow up and put it aside but the trauma, the scar and the memories would never go away. That's what the bullies never understand. They always expect their victim to grow up, acts as adults and treat it as, "its high school" . Never knowing or acknowledging the hurt they cause just for the sole reason that they dont know. See the entitlement. Always asking everyone else to adjust to them.

[@JamJamxo]

Yo I started DYING when she said she enrolled in nursing school. No offensive to ppl that do that but a lot of y’all be BULLIESS and then end up going there💀💀

[@piscesfae]

i had the same thought

[@pearlcnrd]

Not this guy getting mad at his sister for exposing her bully.

[@l_z1478]

Disgusting family and disney disgust me to make this movie to guittrip every bullied kids ,the audacity to market this as movie for teen

[@pat-9169]

that's what i thought too

[@pat-9169]

@@l_z1478after all the sh*t she caused marnie, this was the only time jj realized what she did, if only she said what she did to marnie in the past and apologized before she was caught, things would have been better

[@andrewkruger7519]

Do you want to know why I hated this movie ? Because Will ended up marrying the same girl who bullied his sister.

[@kohakuhime7887]

Not only that, but the bully never made any effort to apologize or make it right.

[@MrFilmfan86]

yes, exactly he should have taken his sisters side. She totally abused her and lied to him about it. She was a total fraud!!

[@wildkatarn7141]

But is she STILL that girl? The point of the film was that after her parents died, she looked at herself and didn't like herself. She actually TRIED to change and become a differnt person. True, the WAY she went about it and tried to rug-sweep the problem between her and Marni wasn't okay and she DEFINITELY shouldn't have lied to her fiance like that, but true sorrow for your past crimes is something you see in Joanna. We will always carry around our past sins and will always struggle with the choices that hurt others, but to actually change? That is something worth admiring.

[@MrFilmfan86]

@@wildkatarn7141 if she had truly changed and wanted to make amends, she should have told the truth and apologized to her right away. But instead she continued to lie and torment Marni still! She deserved to experience what she put Marni thru, get a dose of her own medicine! It was only after she got humiliated did she realized the pain she caused her and you don't start a life with someone that built on lies!! Yes we carry our past sins, but if we truly want to change and find forgiveness then it must fist come from those we have wronged!!

[@kohakuhime7887]

@@wildkatarn7141 She went about "changing" and "sweeping under the rug" in the worst way possible and just repeated all of her mistakes from highschool. Except this time JJ nearly lost everything as a consequence and only got a happy ending because Marni made the choice to bend over backwards. I agree, it is wrong to blame people for their past sins but JJ didn't seem the least bit remorseful and never properly apologized. The most we got was "I shouldn't have done that to you" AFTER the fiasco at her bridal party

[@hiimellen-jks6075]

what I don't understand is how Marnie's brother never knew how JJ treated his sister, I mean, they where in the same school!

[@kohakuhime7887]

He was a popular basketball player too caught up in his own world to notice. In the beginning of the movie Marni chooses not to tell him about JJ too

[@YourDadsUnclesFriend]

@@kohakuhime7887 Plus, he was a senior while JJ and Marni were sophomores.

[@Starbits7]

Depends how busy he was and how big the school was. My high school was big (1700 students) and I never even ran into my brother or sister so we never knew what the other was doing unless we decided to talk about it at home. My brother & I weren't close so we didn't talk about anything. My sister & I were but we really didn't talk about 80% of what was going on. Its mostly about fun stuff or our friends, and occasionally, boys. What I don't get though, is that Joanna was a cheerleader. How did Will not know her? All the pep rallies, games, practices.. He never even heard a rumour about JJ...his buddies never talked about her, never dated her? Seems like a big plot hole...

[@Man.from.the.90sgeneration]

Marnie's brother was probably a bully too, so he married that b*tch

[@l_z1478]

You think??? Look at how clueless her mom? And ignorant her lil bro? Her mother was also kinda highschool queen bee, as well as joanna's aunt Her bro, that will was highschool basket player, they all hype ppl Nobody get her and when she tried to share her problem none listening, her mother even shut her when she said she had beef with joanna back in sophomore, and told her to *give joanna second chances* before even listening. The repeated *everyone deserve second chances* word in this movie is already equal brainwashing to every bullied victim. This is effing diagusting movie

[@wani2033]

the fact that she said "im not the same girl i used to be" while giving Marni necklace "moo", never apologies, and Marni family was plain stupid, not one person in the movie stood up for Marni when they found out that JJ bullying Marni, and the men in this movies gotta make it all about them.

[@MonkeyRay4Gaming]

Its very satisfying that Marni broke Joanna's gift.

[@Truffles563]

Hell yeah it was. I would've done the same thing too and without any remorse whatsoever.

[@SolBin-b4m]

I don't blame Marni for ruining Joanna's life she deserves it

[@timdaugherty4014]

Anyone who does is either an idiot or never was bullied.

[@pazo.j8854]

"It was in high schooll". That was the moment I wanted to punch JJ. It was just high school for her, just a normal thing. This one sentence proved that She still doesn't think about her bad behavior as an important thing in Marni life. Honestly most of the bullies use this strategy without thinking about the other side and they don't understand it. I hate this kind of people.

[@rebeca6523]

Just finished watching this again after years and everyone has pretty much said everything I was feeling. All ill say is im convinced a highschool bully wrote this film bc there is no way anyone in their right mind would write such a terrible ending to try to make us feel bad for jj. Blehhh

[@l_z1478]

Me too

[@kaya119]

Sorry for the like mini-essay: What I think annoys me the most about him (and the rest of Marnie's family) forgiving her is, Joanna knew from her first date with Will exactly who Will's sister was and what she had done to her in high school. There is no way she didn't know. There were pictures around the house and Joanna later says that the family talked about Marnie all the time, so she had to have known. So, she had time to think of a way to apologize and to make up for past behavior. Like her whole narrative of her just panicking (she literally says "I panicked". Like how? You knew he was her brother. She didn't know you were his fiancé. If this was sprung on anyone it was Marnie, not you.) and not wanting them to know is BS. She could have contacted Marnie and apologized at any point after high school, in that time where she was trying to be a better person and all (a good way to start would have been to apologize to the person who she spent four years tormenting). She also could have called her up and asked to meet before she and Will were engaged or before Marnie came home. She had time to think of a better plan than "pretend it didn't happen when I first meet her again but then make sure to constantly bring it up with subtle hints so she knows that I didn't forget and that I am more than happy to be horrible to her again if she says anything". Even just actually pretending nothing happened and being genuinely nice to her would have been better. Her whole "you couldn't just let it go" was also BS, she literally brought it up multiple times.. She even got her a necklace that said "MOO" knowing it would upset her. And in the end, she didn't apologize to Marnie until after guilt tripping her by talking about how her parents died and she was afraid of losing Will and his family and after Marnie made a joke trying to comfort her about how bad she had been herself to make Joanna feel better. So, even after everything Joanna had done to her in high school and then again in the last few days, she still didn't seek out Marnie to apologize. Marnie basically had to seek her out and comfort her first.

[@HirayaMayari]

Everything about this movie rubbed me the wrong way to be honest. I feel so bad for Marni. 'Cause I've been an outcast, myself, back in high school, and kinda still am to this day. Seeing someone who has been terrible towards another person during this said person's most vulnerable years... ... Get their happy ending? Without even making the first move to apologize and be sincere about it? It's just... Jarring. It's only natural for us to root for this bully to fail, especially when they continue to torment the other just to hide the truth about their horrid past. In other words... This movie is horrible, and its Rotten Tomatoes score says it all.

[@kaya119]

@@HirayaMayari What got me the most too, though there were MANY things, is that JJ only got her happy ending in the end because of how much Marni went out of the way for her. From being the one to convince her brother that JJ had changed (though she really hadn't) to setting up the wedding at the hospital. It was like the message was "don't just forgive those who hurt you and move on, also go out of your way to do them favors to make their life even better".

[@HirayaMayari]

@@kaya119 That part was so frustrating to watch. JJ basically got what she wanted handed to her on a silver platter by the person she tortured.

[@kohakuhime7887]

@@HirayaMayari Yeah and she never suffered any consequences aside from being embarrassed during her bridal party

[@HirayaMayari]

@@kohakuhime7887 Nope. She got everything she wanted. 😩

[@Ersonified]

If this happened to me...I swear I will look for a different family. Sure the bully changed for the better and fuck not, but that doesn't mean the trauma is not there anymore. My family chose to marry someone who caused me pain and I'm choosing to distant myself from them.

[@MochieeeMoon]

Honestly JJ didn’t really changed that much in my opinion. She still had that bratty mean girl in her. There were scenes in the movie that showed that like the bathroom scene between Marni and JJ. If JJ really changed a lot, she would’ve apologized for bullying and tormenting Marni in high school. That’s all what Marni really wanted, she just wanted an apology from JJ. But JJ still continued to be that mean girl she was.

[@thomas489]

Disgusting movie. I wish I never watched it. If bullies wanted to "start over", they should take responsibility for their vile deeds, apologize to the ones they wronged, and try to make amends. That's not what JJ did. She remained the same bully she was, and the worst part is that everyone treated her as a "poor innocent victim", and blamed Marni, who was forced to apologize to everyone and make amends. Her dumbass brother, who NEVER "protected her" (why did Marni say that in 8:18?!) blamed her, not only JJ. Just awful. Even the ending of "Odd girl out" was better.

[@SchnarphStudios]

This movie did everything wrong. For one thing: Ramona and Gayle had a really promising subplot (friends turned enemies,) and we get maybe 10 minutes of it. Meanwhile, the whole movie is Joanna being a vile bitch to Marni for seemingly no reason. It's not like it bothers to explore _why_ she did, or _why_ any of these women turned into shrill, infantile harpies the second they saw each other. It could've been a really promising horror-comedy. But instead, it just reinforces such rancid stereotypes about women. Which is ironic for a movie featuring Veronica Mars, Reign from _Supergirl_ , Rose Nylund, Laurie Strode, and Ellen Ripley.

[@whysopotato4719]

I can’t believe the brother and JJ still acted like Marni was the bad guy

[@soybean3205]

I feel that JJ was always jealous of the attention Will gave Marni in highschool and that's why she had been specifically meaner to her. What really bothered me was the way everyone reacted to Marni exposing jj.

[@courtneyz5481]

That’s what makes this movie so shitty

[@sadisticwinter8354]

This comment is weirdly incestuous. Feeling jealous of your crush talking/hanging out with his little sister. You're weird asf.

[@Sanaa_K_Mohamed]

JJ/Joanna did not deserve that happy ending, and Marni's family should not have been angry at her for what she did.

[@EughhBrothereughh]

I always thought jj deserved the living hell , she had that coming. Plus the fact she was making fun of Marni proved she didn't change at all it was all a facade

[@greenlee7smythe]

Why Marnie felt she had to apologize to her brother I’ll never understand! She should have told him to fuck off and never speak to him again! He should have apologized to her!

[@daretodream9765]

yeah, officially the shittiest brother on-screen

[@lexiechans]

It was his night too, and he didn't deserve to be humilliated that way

[@greenlee7smythe]

@@lexiechans maybe he needed better choices in partners? If she hadn’t bullied and tormented Marnie, none of that would have happened.

[@lexiechans]

@@greenlee7smythe he found out until that night , Marnie never told him the truth

[@greenlee7smythe]

@@lexiechans I know. Doesn’t matter. Marnie isn’t at fault. U don’t blame the victim for the bully’s actions

[@huonghoang1947]

Marnie deserved so much better. I hate when she was always the one who had to fix everything again. I wish Will hadn’t come back to JJ after whole this shit. Not just Joanna, even Will and the parents, Marnie’s whole family owned her a apology

[@BaiBailey7]

This part kinda didn’t make sense and so on because in some parts of the movie JJ would smirk and say harsh remarks to Marnie but then at this point she was all like I was sorry and wanted to forget about the past like really cause you didn’t act like it and also how could the brother not know her I mean most popular people know each other

[@kaya119]

When she gave her the necklace that said "Moo" in particular after tormenting her with that for years (NOT TO MENTION THAT HAD TO BE CUSTOM MADE. That means it took TIME to get that made. It wasn't a spur of the moment thing). Like, she wasn't trying to forget. She was trying to bully her into complacency. And what was her plan after they got married? To just continue to bully her so that her family never knows the truth? That shows she instinctively is just mean.

[@kaiverse9568]

I think jj just bullied marnie again cause marnie calls her out on her past And jj did not want will to know she was a bully So I think jj is threatening marnie to stay out of the way but I do feel her guilt towards the end tho

[@MsEmilylovesya]

I can’t imagine being at my rehearsal dinner and finding out then and there that my fiancé was previously engaged, and he didn’t even find out from the fiancé he found out from the ex, meaning she clearly never had any intentions of telling him. That’s terrible, and I’m sure it made him wonder what else she was hiding

[@MsEmilylovesya]

Nooo and then she pours a whole pot of soup on his sister!! Lmaoo honestly how did they even end up getting married

[@HirayaMayari]

Okay. So I know that this is just a movie. Its message is just... Well, it's not THAT bad... ... You know what? Actually, the message isn't bad at all. Being forgiving towards those who've wronged us in the past is actually a good thing to do. Just letting go of all that baggage of torment is freeing. But... ... This movie was still terribly executed. JJ doesn't understand what her horrible antics had done to Marni. She was never sorry, chose to hide it, and even threatened her if she told the truth by reminding her of the old days. I see no empathy in her earlier "apology" at all (And the fact that THAT was all Marni ever wanted from her, and she wouldn't even try to give her a sincere one. is just... Ugh.). Overall, she was still horrible towards her, but was being super subtle this time around, to mask her despicable behavior. And yeah, she showed how much of a sociopath she truly is with all the people she's trying to manipulate ("Look at me, I can never do anything wrong, I should be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize for being this kindhearted, you know.") and the truth she's trying to obscure ("I absolutely did nothing wrong. We're past that. That all happened in high school. We're grown-ups now. But I'm not going to own up to what I've done anyways. No one needs to know who I was and what I did to others. And I will SILENCE anyone who tries to speak ill about me. UwU"). You can't let bygones be bygones without apologizing and truly being sorry for what you've done through your actions. Even though "that WAS back in high school." JJ got her just desserts here. She didn't even make an effort to show Marni she's a changed person now. Although... She did make an effort to terrorize Marni to keep her mouth shut. 🤔 I honestly feel bad for Marni. Being the big person is a good thing. But forgiving a toxic person such as JJ who clearly doesn't deserve Marni's forgiveness since she hasn't shown any signs of sincere remorse... Is just... Jarring... To watch. And the fact that everyone went against Marni after what she had done to get payback for everything she's been through all those years ago and because JJ was a stuck-up female dog who didn't want to apologize because "that was all in the past" (but she doesn't have the right to say that 'cause she was literally the one who tormented Marni during high school)... Just rubs me the wrong way. 😩 Yes, I was bullied when I was younger, and had low self-esteem. I'm still socially-awkward and a bit asocial because of my irrational fear of people like JJ. Sure, I'm introverted, but it's people like her that I chose to remain indoors as much as possible. I get so anxious whenever I do stuff outside. It feels like everyone's talking smack about me, even if I don't know them personally. I know it's probably all in my head, but these thoughts still hurt, and the trauma is there. I do have compassion for others, and would always choose to forgive whenever I can. But for those who show no remorse for what they had done and continue to do, I see no redemption for them at all.

[@kaya119]

I agree 100%. And I think I could have maybe sided even a little bit (like just a tiny little bit) with JJ, if Marni had at least been the one to restart it. Like if JJ had just tried to genuinely be nice, but Marni tried to sabotage her early on. But it was JJ (almost immediately) that brought the past up again first in the car with the song on the radio, and the lip smack in the mirror. Like, she just demonstrated that she never really changed and that her first instinct when confronted was to go back to being that the same mean girl she was in high school. I think it was an issue with the writing team. They wanted everyone to get redemption, but wanted to make JJ's actions bad enough that Marni's actions were excusable. Instead, they just made JJ like a sadist, who didn't deserve the redemption she got because she never genuinely apologized and seemed to just be a terrible person deep down who was good at acting like a decent person. Even her "apology" to Marni came after guilt tripping her about her parents deaths AND after Marni made a self-deprecating joke about herself. And it wasn't even really an apology. (If I remember correctly, its been awhile and I don't feel like re-watching this scene), it was basically " was trying to prove I was a better person. But I should have apologized earlier", but that isn't really an apology at all." So, it was like a lie mixed with "I should have said sorry....' which isn't even an apology.

[@HirayaMayari]

@@kaya119 True. Now it looked as though she was just guilty she got exposed. That's why she said that. JJ honestly seemed like a sociopath throughout the movie. I feel so bad for Marni. She did not deserve that toxic person back into her life again. And yeah, it's obviously the writers' fault that JJ's characterization came off that way.

[@kaya119]

@@HirayaMayari She really did come across as a psychopath who just did not care about others feelings. And even her like guilt speech to Marni was basically about how she wanted her parents to be proud of her, so she still wasn't like "I wanted to be better" it was "I wanted my family to think I was better". And like I could maybe accept an ending where Marni forgave her and they both moved on. But JJ still ending up as her sister-in-law with Marni's entire family basically just ignoring everything JJ did in the past? AND Marni going so out of her way to do the wedding at the hospital? Nope. Just no. If JJ was going to get any redemption, it would have needed to have been like if they did a "Six Months Later" thing and she and Marni's brother met again at a coffee shop and decided to COMPLETELY start over. And then she is honest from the start and has to actually prove she is a good person, not just good at FAKING being a good person.

[@HirayaMayari]

@@kaya119 So TRUE. JJ's redemption arc was nonexistent in the movie. And Marni going out of her way to help her is too much. The story was framing that whole thing with the party to be Marni's fault, so now she has to help JJ get back with her brother. 🤮 FYI, Marni's family (if you even love Marni at all), this girl nearly ruined Marni's life with the trauma she inflicted on her during one of the most important developmental stages of a person's life, and she wasn't even sorry for it. "Forgive, but never forget." Sure, Marni forgave JJ (even though she wasn't truly sorry). But she should never forget how much of a manipulative, toxic person JJ really is. This person never changed. Her pity party lured Marni into a trap to make things go her way at the end. There was no redemption arc. Her character never even had an arc. Was there something in the story telling us that she DID change? No! She only felt guilty for not giving a more convincing apology earlier to Marni. Because, NOW, she has to deal with the consequences of her actions. She was never sorry. And THEN, she still got what she wanted at the end of the story without even working hard for it. Marni had to do all the heavy lifting to help JJ get her happy ever after. I honestly believe it won't be long till JJ flaunts her true colors towards Marni again.

[@Lone_Wolf91]

Yeah thing about movie writers is that they don’t always think about the movies message or how it would be if the movie was realistic. I think that they were going on you should forgive and forget but as you said it was terribly executed. I wouldn’t of forgiven Joanna and I’m a guy. Also if I were Will not only would I not marry her I would make sure she never comes near me or my family again. I felt the exact same way about two other movies (are we done yet) and (what about Bob) In Are we done yet ice cubes character I actually feel was in the right to be pissed off at Chuck because he was basically a scam artists. He convinced him to buy that house knowing full well how bad a condition it was in and just keep making him pay more and more. In the movie (what about Bob) Bob was basically stocking his therapist on his family trip and driving him more insane as the movie went on. I’d of been just as mad if someone was stocking me like that and I hated how no one understood why doctor Marvin was pissed off at him throughout the whole movie.

[@molinagrn65]

The ending we deserved for this movie was throwing JJ’s ass under the bus for her behavior. I’m glad to find this edit, I hated how she was forgiven. Especially when she was the one attempting to use violence towards Marnie first, imagine if she used that on Will in an argument. 💀💀

[@Truffles563]

It's the typical Hollywood ending, where everything gets fixed. In real life, she would've been kicked out and probably been charged for assault for trying guacamole sauce on his sister. That's a crazy person.

[@1977linda1977]

Thank you! This ending is SO much better than the ending in the movie!

[@loubnalaoufir9524]

What This isn't the actual ending

[@simplyhonest4316]

@@loubnalaoufir9524 Nope it is

[@Sanaa_K_Mohamed]

JJ/Joanna is only sorry because she got caught. If she wasn't caught, she would've carried on being cruel and continued poking little things at Marni. I'll never be happy with the way this ended.

[@mako3271]

You all wanna know why Will or whatever his name was got mad at Marni for what she did? It's because throughout his life- especially as a teenager in High School-, he mostly got everything he ever wanted. I can tell from watching his facial expressions, as there was a little bit of spoiled entitlement in each one. Hell, for all we know, he was probably the favourite child in the family. The "Golden Boy", who everyone loved. And when he became a star athlete in High School, that entitlement skyrocketed. He may not have been a bully, like JJ, but he still had that "I deserve to get what I want" mentality. Him finally seeing how JJ had been treating Marni, all these years made him angry, yes. But him being angry at Marni, was not JUST because she did what she did to finally expose JJ. It was mostly because deep down he KNEW that he couldn't go through with marrying someone who would do that to his sister and had to dump JJ. And that angered him, because even though he did the right thing, for the first time in his life, he wasn't going to get he wanted and he couldn't handle that. Yes, he married JJ in the end, but i'm talking about this current scene. TL;RD version: He was a poor man's Troy Bolton, who was acting like a spoiled child, because he had to give up getting what he wanted, for the first time.

[@graceramey4443]

"Oh, kitty likes a scratch. Two can play at this game" XOXO Gossip Girl

[@KathrynSarkhoh]

Honestly if I were in Marni’s shoes after finding out that my own brother is about to marry someone who bullied me in high school, I wouldn’t be bothered to show up at the wedding at all. That ending was just so messed up.

[@Truffles563]

Yeah, Marni is nicer than I would've been.

[@lexiechans]

He didn't know his fiancee bullied his sister, it was until this moment he found out

[@sonicxrich0789]

5:33 5:34 Kristen Bell as Anna used the *Frying Pan.* "Referance to Rapunzel's Frying Pan from TANGLED"

[@shushgurl]

people think bullying in school is just a thing in past that at one point u should get over it and let go. what most people forgot is wound do heal but some scar last for a life time. i love marnie family but i hate the fact non of em till the end success on being by her side on facing her scar when it come to her hs bullying. it sad even till the end marnie still doing it alone (to stand up for herself and overcoming her scar n fear) despite having a loving sweet family and god the brother is so useless its frustrating. how could u focus on ur sister ruining ur wedding vs horrifying the truth u failed as brother to protect her even bringing her nightmare to ur family home. he just so selfish if it me i dont think i can forgive myself for making my sister going thru this and for being ignorant of her pain all this years. bully is not childish or small matter. people do kill emself coz of it.

[@boosadans]

movie should have ended on 4:42 after marni finally gets to say her side and explain how just because you're suddenly nice now doesn't mean you get to invalidate the years of torment you did to me

[@CristianRodriguez-v4e]

Marni had such a right, she was so clear that she didn’t mean to embarrass JJ with Tim but made sure that she know that JJ hurt her she didn’t so

[@HippieGoddess142]

In real life she would be a malignant narcissist attempting to separate her victim from her family

[@jasontan7920]

In real life that girl just want connection in hospital. The dad is a doctor!!! Plus the son is a lawyer.. so basically is good standard family for her who just almost married a crazy guy. She even keep secret everything.

[@Sanaa_K_Mohamed]

2:26 If that was true, then she never would've given Marni a necklace that says "MOO" and played "We Are The Champions" to torment her as adults.

[@Truffles563]

Even if you get your apology at the end (the refrigerator scene), what type of apology is it if you had to demand it, knowing very well the bully never reached out to you on their own???

[@oliviaanderson9095]

If you are dating a guy, you love him and want to keep this love forever. The very first thing you should do is start bullying his sister. Because he won’t mind, he won’t know about it because his sister won’t complain to him about me and he won’t break up with me because I will be more dear to him than his own sister.

[@JMFabiano]

You left out the best part....Betty vs. Cloris!

[@scouser2010ify]

OMG yes literally is the best part of this movie 😂

[@bloodyrose1985]

Jamie vs Sigourney as well

[@Starbits7]

I love their sparring. "Who dressed you, the great depression?" "I'm sorry I couldn't attend your funeral last year" lmao 🤣

[@darkwillow9696]

A bully you know from school time will marry and become a family member not even trying to redeem themselves by apologing for what they done to you. Like hell I want them any part of my life or family.

[@trestonmalone5072]

Joanna sucks! I would have tried to ruin their wedding too if she was my bully and she gave me a half ass apology.

[@JM-ed7vo]

She went after her and threw a plate shows she never changed

[@raymondsolisjr.1262]

If I were the groom I'd run, run, run.

[@danielgoddard3286]

The message this film sends is dreadful. Challenge your bullies at your own peril.

[@flowerhanna58]

I know it's a comedy movie but damn... She had no right to do that to the victim...

[@studiogillian]

i hate-watch this movie for comfort lol but i am glad so many people agree with me that JJ should not have had the happy ending

[@Gamer1234brendan]

Wow that’s a new low she shouldn’t have to feel sorry for her she’s not dumb she knew you didn’t change

[@Amnej13]

This movie would have totally been better without the dumb "redemption" arc

[@MochieeeMoon]

Yep

[@Vanshika-iu4fk]

In my humble opinion, some people just don’t deserve a redemption. I love well done redemption arcs but this meh 😒

[@jcisneros4669]

This movie in my opinion didn’t age well. It not only downplays years of torment and abuse on the victims part but makes the abuser out to be a victim years later when the trust comes out. And then for Marnie’s family to not even defend her is sad. And the obvious fact the JJ never grew up not matter how much she wants to pretend she did.I can only say that this was marriage in the real world wouldn’t last and would definitely end messy.

[@meganluminais3586]

I hate bullies

[@MeganCordato1955]

JJ crossed a line. Her and Marnie could’ve became friends but instead got bullied

[@radoranaivoson8193]

If Will hadn't come, Joanna would have destroyed Marni in a catfight

[@shivi248]

What I hate about this movie is the ending ..how could will marry jj it's unbelievable . thank God I don't have a brother like that . Jj didn't deserved the happy ending she deserved to be thrown out of house

[@freddiemolinajr.8397]

Being bullied is so wrong no person deserves to be bullied not even teenagers deserve to be bullied by bullys

[@cathyhopkins2151]

Why did her family get mad at her when she exposed jj WHEN THEY SHOULDVE FELT BAD FOR HER

[@scouser2010ify]

I adore Betty white 😂

[@timdaugherty4014]

RIP.

[@SOTK4ever]

Is somebody angry much? 😂 No judgement here as it tickled my dark side too! 👍

[@Sanaa_K_Mohamed]

This should've ended with Marni and Charlie getting a happy ending, not JJ/Joanna.

[@Sanaa_K_Mohamed]

3:42 Some people never change. Still trying to bully her.

[@raffertykeegan-sharief2254]

Why was Joanna crying with the spray cheese??

[@mr.scruffels7930]

Rafferty Keegan-Sharief the husband was very mad at her and she didn’t care she was eating “carbs”

[@Jeff_Pryce]

Because her fiancé had basically called off the wedding the night before the wedding, which depressed her to the point where she started binge eating to comfort herself.

[@humansarenottofu]

I watched this movie several times in my teen years, and it always left me feeling gutted and awful, how tf Marni's family don't take her side at all? How on earth JJ deserved a happy ending with her brother? And why are they too narcissistic to blame Marni for a day ruined compared to her years of being bullied? This movie always disgusts me. Props to JJ's actress for making the character so believable that I visualize her face whenever I picture a bully in my head. Whoever direct this movie I hope you dind little inconveniences around you

[@jaywar69]

"Oohhh... Kitty likes to scratch!" lmao...

[@abegailodi46]

4:09 "You just couldn't LET IT GO" Kristen Bell during her Hollywood walk of fame speech: "THAT'S NOT EVEN HER SONG YOU SON OF A BITCH!"

[@scouser2010ify]

Why does it matter is someone was engaged before they met you 😂

It doesn't matter, but why would you keep it a secret also?

[@dobbysboggart6883]

She lied about it.

[@scouser2010ify]

@@dobbysboggart6883 oh fair enough

[@EliteClinicalResearch]

im a fan

[@drawingwithNyx]

Nah... Joanna never changed

[@neshamojanay9423]

No she was still a bully

[@eduardomerino8098]

How do I get as skinny as JJ?

[@33themajor]

He’s a grown ass man. Why does she need to protect him?

[@Sammi3Suffocat3]

Damn it Teddy

[@rewardo.4398]

Ah yes a women of culture

[@Fontomia]

jealousy kills

[@baddiereal7461]

Those poor plates

[@Knockyourselfout89]

I never knew this was odette annable. I always thought she was too good looking😂😂.

[@meridaohara6453]

I thought it was odette yustman?

[@daretodream9765]

​@@meridaohara6453 it's the same person

[@sheeshbro9559]

You cut out the song... unforgiveable

[@dayvioncarter2246]

5:35 lol

[@ayamarat4382]

She so didn’t deserve Will

[@nc9318]

How off the wedding will you're going to regret it for the rest of your life.

[@bluraine7379]

I honestly kinda see the point they from joanna she wanted to pretend past didn't exist...marni could have come clean at the start about her and not at that point it felt like bullying the bully

[@ans.5364]

I felt bad for Marnie because she did tell her mom and her family but they just ignored it and pushed it underneath the rug

[@kaya119]

But she didn't want to pretend the past didn't exist. She didn't want Will and his family to find out, but she constantly did things to remind Marni of it, starting with their first car ride together and including specifically custom ordering a necklace with "MOO" (the thing she used to torment Marni with throughout high school) as a "gift". IF she had genuinely wanted to "move on" and pretend the past didn't exist, she would have just kept acting like she didn't remember Marni. But she didn't do that.

[@MrFilmfan86]

Marnie did tell her family but they didn't believe her and like her mother would have understood she was a popular girl, she never was abused, disgraced, and humiliated!! Experiencing it is the only way to understand!!

[@jama3997]

When Marnie came back JJ was literally bullying her again by making references to the stuff she did. She even had a MOO necklace made. She was trying to bully her into not saying anything.

[@MrFilmfan86]

@@jama3997 Exactly, JJ claims she changed and yet continued to behave the same as in high school! Marnie had to give her a taste of her own medicine, to be exposed, bullied, and humiliated! JJ deserved what she got!

[@joanasy2152]

💚💚

[@gzapray7203]

If it is a Reddit discussion, I might say ESH.

[@ahmadhadi177]

Bullying is basically domestic abuse,right?

[@ilovetelevision24]

Popular girl .deserved it

[@Gamer1234brendan]

I mean she did deserve it bullying is wrong boys had pimples on there face in high school too so that’s true fact nothing to laugh at because boy did too

[@joshualowe959]

That's Kristen Bell???

[@simonearendse6134]

Im sorry... let go of me now

[@MeganCordato1955]

What an embarrassment

[@carolinarosas8519]

Aron

[@carolinarosas8519]

No god no

[@xzxe]

She changed

[@riddheepatel1874]

to anwser your caption... some people actually truly change