FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA - Better Than a Stradale or a Speciale?

Ferrari 430 SCUDERIA - Better Than a Challenge Stradale, Speciale or even a Pista? DEF | TheCarGuys.tv
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The Ferrari 430 Scuderia is the successor to the mighty Challenge Stradale and is therefore a fire-breathing V8-engined naturally-aspirated special edition that has been lightened, tuned, and track-prepared.
And thanks to fellow KZbinr, @JayEmm on Cars, TheCarGuys has one - for a month!
Which means you get a detailed episode of #DriveEveryFerrari on one of the most highly-regarded race cars for the road ever to come out of Maranello, including a full explanation of all the Scud’s special features, its history, the exterior, the interior, all the technology, a full driving road test and some magnificent straight-piped Beans!
Your spine will tingle as the revs rise to the redline, and together we will discover what makes the 430 Scuderia so special and so undervalued, because yes folks, this is a performance bargain the like of which we may never see again.
So welcome to #DriveEveryFerrari, and the screaming V8 insanity of the 430 Scud…
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[@targaflorio3239]

Magnificent episode. A veteran Ferrari technician once told me the Scuderia was in his opinion, the greatest Ferrari ever made. This is even against all the exceptional stuff coming out of Maranello today. Of which, he had worked on most personally. That really struck me.

[@iskillio]

Cool fake story bro.

[@johnforeman634]

I’ve heard many people say that. I’ve never driven one but I’ve got an 08 Spider which will have to be good enough for me. My dream would be a 16M.

[@timmietz]

Of my 3 Ferraris, this is my favorite one. So much character! I am extremely lucky to own one!!!

[@scuddryvr8784]

Scud owners group

[@Ratarossa]

Superb review !! James has a very high spec Scud there. Very interesting to see how Ferrari changed the engine strut on the carbon upgrade lid to a simple lightweight stick and ditched the hydraulic rams on the standard option lid .... learnt something new with that one.

[@chriscooper3384]

It’s not even the lightweight full carbon option that was offered in period for the regular F430. The scud version is an aluminium/ carbon hybrid down graded to save costs.

[@scottthomson9813]

Superb video as ever. The 430 Scuderia is right at the pointy end of my list for greatest cars. You did it justice so thank you!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Much appreciated

[@JayEmmOnCars]

@7:45 the issue is with the carbon headlights, they give off some kind of gas or something and it is what clouds the headlight inners. To fix them you have to split the headlight in half, and at seven grand a pair not many people are willing to take it on! 9:10 if you have the non carbon engine cover it has gas struts 16:45 beep on key removal is because it wants to be left in gear (it has no "park" setting)

[@TheCarGuysTV]

“There was a time that was all the money in the world to you, now it’s a day’s pay…” 😀

[@JayEmmOnCars]

​@@TheCarGuysTV were it so! Very glad to see the car out and getting some love and thanks for looking after it while I was away

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@JayEmmOnCars 👍🏻

[@ferrikrismik5514]

Hi James, I think your car shifts a bit on the slow side compared to others. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a363o2qgba53gtU

[@TungNguyen-mx4fn]

“The fuel gauge is about as reliable as a lookout on the Titanic”. 😂

[@MR_BJH]

Finally, hopefully this will be worth the few hour wait!!! One of the best sounding Ferraris of all time in my opinion

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@Lukec4ge]

The sound comparison was brilliant. Challenge Stradale > Scuderia imo. Just…

[@amarjit_singh_]

That F1 single clutch automated gearbox in the 430 Scuderia is arguably the best iteration of that gearbox. The driving experience is more raw than the 458 Speciale and much more improved than the 360 Challenge Stradale.

[@aaronburberry4656]

The 458 didn’t use the F1 transmission it used a duel clutch system

[@Macki1287]

@@aaronburberry4656 He never said it did! Still the Scuderia F1 box is more raw, as he said, and enjoyable as the DCT of the 458 (i have only driven the Speciale). Not sure why, but the DCT of the Speciale tries to be a more raw version of the F1 Gearbox of the Scuderia, by beeing more harsh on the upshifts, and not properly applying throttleblips while downshifting, resulting in almost locking up the rear tires while shifting down. in normale driving however, the DCT is way better and smoother. The Scuderia F1 Box on the fast shift mode is just perfect, right amount of rough and harsh upshifting, while perfectly timed blips on the downshifts just sound and feel amazing. driving slow result in headnodding of the driver and passenger

[@Fzr005]

Love the back to back sound comparisons Damian. Please do more direct comparisons!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@marklewis2736]

Better than Speciale? No. More fun and exciting to drive? Yes. Last of the analog, old school Ferrari’s. This car represents the “pure” Ferrari experience.

[@neilgaydon5430]

Brilliant. Your Ferrari series is going to be reference for anyone wanting to learn about the cars and brand for years to come. I love the old school meets modern f430, preferring it to the brilliant 458, contentious I know, in looks, sound, feel and drive. Mechanics at my Ferrari dealer (one of which just won Ferrari mechanic of the year) believe the f430 to be the best Ferrari. I have a manual coupe with carbon buckets, like a Scud, where you “wear the car”, and near perfect for UK roads. No doubt the Scud is the peak 430 but I love a manual, shame they never did one.

[@user-sk2pq2uq7t]

A guy who owned a Ferrari specialist garage once told me the Scuderia 16m was in his top three Ferraris ever, and he had seen them all. With that in mind, I manage to find one and would never get rid of it now …. It’s the best car I have ever driven. It is the perfect combination of raw and analogue (analogue dials, a handbrake) but modern enough tech, and with a brilliant n/a engine which sounds better than anything else I have heard, this car has the whole package. Add pinpoint handling, and superb steering and this I just about the most fun you can have with your pants on …. Or maybe even just the most fun regardless 😂….finally …. That F1 single clutch box …. It is brilliant …. It feels as quick as a 458 dual clutch, and gives you a feel like a manual, with that little ‘breather’ between changes …… to me the Scud is one of the finest modern day Ferrari driving cars …. If you ever get the chance … drive one or own one ….

[@beansnwheels]

Hi Damian, I really like your new more comprehensive style. Can’t get enough of all the visual (and intake noise) comparisons. It’s really nice to learn in great detail and emotionally where these cars slot in between their sisters. Your extensive experience between these cars is really showing. Cheers and thanks for sharing all this with us!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much

[@65Antonis]

What a presentation this has been!! Marvelous!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@MrGB1999]

The 430 is extremely pretty in the flesh and is a wonderful bridge between the graceful models before it and the more angular, "modern" (ie date very quickly) models from 458 onwards. I love the Scud too, but the standard 430 with darker wheels, and in darker colours preferably, is another Ferrari car styling masterclass. Wide looking (and actually wide), elegant, subtly aggressive, timeless. PS black cars in midday sunlight never look great. Try dusk lighting for darker cars = 😍 (PPS leave the car in 1st and it will beep no longer)

[@christianfloehr]

Lovely, Lovely, Lovely! Not just the best V8 Ferrari ever made… for me the best Supercar ever made! ❤ more visceral than all the ones coming after this and much better than the ones before. And the best: its the one I drove today with friends… Waiting for another round tomorrow. Ticking in the Garage… 😅

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Do tell…

[@freddaniali]

"It's rough as a badger's a$$ in here" - Damian, you have the funniest quips and I love it! Thank you for this marvelous review!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you for watching, my friend

[@scuddryvr8784]

Call me crazy. I tracked my Scud. Chris Harris agrees that it’s the best of both worlds, still raw but properly quick, and the one he would chose. It will not remain in the reasonably priced column forever.

[@markh6384]

Epic car, great video. Particularly enjoyed the addition of the POV camera behind your shoulder pointing forwards, that was cool!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@Richspjones]

Awesome video; you can't beat The Beans!

[@brianiswrong]

The picture of James looks like it was taken just after you tod him you had a " moment" with the scud and tractor and a hedge😮

[@adamski5977]

It's strange but I think it's one of the most beautiful ferraris, it's at the top of my list. Great episode 👏

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks

[@aggie3344]

The 430 scud is the dream

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes it is

[@garyg5947]

Great review and not a blooper in sight which is a miracle with all that techno-speak!! 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👌🏻

[@AntoniusTyas]

James' Scud has some insane spec with all the carbons, easily one of my favourite Scud spec. I don't even mind the Nero Daytona paint since it's very metallic-y.

[@FerrariCollector87]

Simply perfect spec, Avio Mettalic with yellow calipers is the only spec that looks better. The valvles opening sounds great. i still prefer the exhaust pops on 458. one thing i didn´t know about the pop sounds on 458 is that they only came on 2011+ models, the 2009 and 2010 ones dont have it, some owners updated their ECU SW versions on 2009 and 2010 models to start poping.

[@LifeatSpeed]

Incredible video! Extremely well done. The 430 Scuderia is one of my favorite modern Ferraris. One day, I'll add one to my stable. Thanks for putting this together.

[@lukewaring2832]

Oh yes, the noise.... Thank you for bringing us such a treat. Have to go for a thrash now... Epic..😎👌

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@noelht1]

D, you are a B’stard sir! I was just about to go to bed and now I have to watch this video😂

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Sorry - and it’s a long one too

[@noelht1]

@@TheCarGuysTV Hah. No need to apologise mate. It’s a good one and I always enjoy your content.

[@itsjoel]

Such a well produced episode! Have always loved the Scud...

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Appreciate that, thanks

[@chrisgoat6435]

Most underrated and overlooked Ferrari ever, not on the scuderia version. They sleep so much on it, it will be morr than a unicorn soon.

[@TS-wp3wt]

Sounds so good yet with an aftermarket exhaust it sounds bonkers!! One of the best cars ever…

[@iandavidson99]

By far the most interesting and in-depth review of the 430 Scud I've seen! Watched from start to finish, a really engaging video!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much, so glad you enjoyed it

[@MrObiwan1]

I think in terms of "bang for your buck" the Scuderia has to be up there when talking about the greatest Ferrari's !!!

[@paulvallins5994]

This vid should get you to 100,000 subs 🎉

[@LoganL17]

Favorite ferrari! Little rough little elegant, full throttle!

[@minatormyth]

Brilliant video. Thankyou🤗 I love this drive every ferrari series.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@andrewhill9513]

Great video, i thought 40 mins would be too much, but it was a perfect review of a great car. ps I like that you referred to the GTO as just that, 288 was never officially part of its name, but of course you know that being your favourite 👍🤓

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👌🏻

[@teddyarcher3957]

As always, great informative video. I was wondering why scuds were often 150k more than standard 430s, sure I knew it was lighter and punchier. But you ticked all the boxes. 👍🏼

[@markitoxi]

Very adequate to watch this just after the Ratarossa latest video on 430Scud

[@steffydog]

Always a great video with a 430 Scuderia, thanks guys.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Our pleasure

[@wesdoobner7521]

Those 430's can really scuderia around the track pretty good.

[@bigcarvao]

almost a 100K subs...nice job on this one

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@myou6675]

Thanks Damian and James for some great Sunday morning Ferrari viewing

[@bennyrodriguez2862]

Thanks so much for the episode, very well done and agree with the comments. I love my Silverstone Grigio Scud all around.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👏🏻👏🏻

[@LeeTheVet]

Lovely edition of the 430! Looks great!

[@jamesevans7056]

Looking forward to James’s suspension update video in the future 😊

[@captain_context9991]

We had the Berlinetta 355, and it was indeed screaming. We also had one of the last off the line Lotus Esprit which was just as fast but didnt scream.

[@Fioravanti.80]

The CS sounds sharper, more visceral because of the smaller capacity and crucially the 5 valves per cylinder. The 430 and the Scud sound great too, but not as multi-layered/multi dimensional.

[@martinboulden4388]

If Michael Schumacher was involved in the development it gets my vote ! Another fantastic video Sir. ❤

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, my friend

[@benpenagonzales6014]

Hoh he hoh! The Scuderia tickles your onions! Especially when it’s screaming like that.

[@johnmitchell2269]

The CS has such a unique sound mostly due to it being five valves per cylinder.

[@johnforeman634]

What I’ve noticed about the 16M is people don’t seem to want to drive them. They keep them low mileage and tuck them away due to their value. This may be one model that soars to dizzying heights in the far future I’d imagine.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Very true, you rarely see them driven, only stored.

[@iansmith7387]

Bloody good episode Damian

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much

[@philipguacci6452]

Great choices despite their age. The 16M is great looker and in that yellow. Che Bella.

[@helicrazee]

Fantastic review One of the best ferraris based on “bang for buck”

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you

[@moogsta16]

Great video, thanks for chugging on with your mission of driving every Ferrari. A masterful car but I think this was the very start of the era where cars were designed to be all things to all people. Gradually they have progressed to today where they are amazing & perfect but very dull and soul-less. Now we have screaming track car that is also a shopping car, has artificial noise, is more comfortable and far from beautiful. In my opinion, less connected and missing the point. I would rather have an off the shelf raw F40, F50, or 360CS to name a few- designed soley for one purpose.

[@nickorette]

For the beeps: it'll beep at you if key goes into ignition without seatbelt and again if you turn off ignition when car is in N (should be R or 1st). Fix those and no beeps!

[@danofficial117]

1 of my fav Ferraris ,

[@luislopes2240]

Great video about one of my favourite cars ever. I love the scud since i saw it in the magazines when it was launched.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@matthiasgehringer8120]

Keep fighting Michael😢

[@edwardobernardino4347]

The Car Guys & JayEmmOnCars are my favourite channels. Compulsory viewing. Would you guys ever consider doing a combined episode.. maybe about which cars 2 go dogging in the forest with... Bernard from Australia 🦘

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes, I think we would. We’ve already done a Q&A on James’ channel, but I’m sure a road trip could be on the cards…

[@brianweekes1]

Agree, it’s not pretentious either, like some channels I won’t mention. Do check out that channel “number 27” especially his “Influenzo” and Ratarossa

[@MarcSob22]

The real top speed of the Scuderia is over 211mp/h as many tests on gps proved! After the Pista is my favorite line, with remap and direct exhaust this car has an absurd potential!! Pure mix between the more analog side of the CS and the modern side of the Speciale!! Great content

[@geoffclarke3796]

Brilliant car, one of my favourite Ferrari's. Faster than a 360CS, faster and better dynamically with a much improved grarbox though I agree the engine note not quite as good than the CS. I'd take one of these over a Speciale or Pista as there is some tech here but it doesn't dominate like on the later cars. Great video.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, Geoff

[@iiooppjjkkll]

Brilliant review - especially back to back comparison

[@Sahibsinghchohan]

Fantastic episode!!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Much appreciated

[@jimmyquinn9639]

Interesting video about Ferrari and another good video 🚘🚙🚗👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@zero521]

When cars were cars!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Absolutely!

[@UMNRZ]

Timeless Beauty 👏🏽 Why is the rear brake light having a fit at 00:42 seconds into the video??

[@martingetliffe]

Brilliance as ever, I really like the 430 Scud. The way it went when the beans came out, just about had my CoCo come out. 💦 Keep returning to your videos, nobody like the Car Guys on KZbin, love these Lads.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Martin - I appreciate you watching

[@martingetliffe]

@@TheCarGuysTV And………that’s why we do watch You. The interaction with your followers is 2nd to none. There’s some right twats - mainly the younger than us end that are right up there own arses and give feed back to nobody who watches their Channel. On a side note, I’ve got a RRS P440e Autobiography on order for the Mrs - it’s been what feels like 2 years in the waiting sketch (Prob about 8 months in reality) when it does come, if your ever oop north, either of you, you’re more than welcome to use it in a video (When it does come!!) you can tell it how it is….be as honest as you want, I won’t be using it…..as I said it’s for the fun prevention officer……😆 Keep up the brilliant content…

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@martingetliffe Fantastic - thanks, Martin

[@fluke9]

highly realistic wagging taillight at @0:43

[@zakelwe]

Really enjoyed this episode, very well put together with thought and the presentation style treads a great line between spod and joker. You should be on the Beeb. Have to say I prefer the 430 looks over the 360. The headlights on those are so kit car. This car does demonstrate how Ferrari honed their NA V8s up to the pinnacle or the 458. Speciale In a parallel universe Ferrari did a 4.8 V10 engine that rev'd to 10 000 of course . Imagine a road going Ferrari V10 ... weeps silently. They were obsessed with V12 though, kept using them in F1 even when others went to V10. Then Lambo did one and so Ferrari could not see to be following them.

[@michaelblurry6559]

The rossa colored ones look very kit car-ish. The Argento ones look a lot better in person.

[@DwainDwight]

savage is the word. and sweet spot it is. I will get one soon I think. TBH I need one

[@ingvartorma9789]

Thanks for a great video. In my eyes the Ferrari Scuderia is a beautiful car and the sound is wonderful, agree with you that it doesn't beat the sound of the challenge stradale. But easier to find a Scuderia for sale than a challenge stradale.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

True

[@allensaunders449]

Excellent vid as expected one of my favorite Ferraris

[@jeremiahredden4689]

I adore my white 16M

[@JohnAgustinScuderia458595]

I've been waiting for this! Awesome Review as always!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@keithmclaren9226]

An epic and fascinating episode! Learnt a lot and the pure joy of Drive Every Ferrari continues. Still a 456 or 512TR chap myself 🙂

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@ashleysutherland4118]

Fantastic review in-depth and coming from someone who has experience and a vast knowledge, top marks. 🤪

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much

[@robertstone7271]

Great episode, love the long form!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻

[@marius.kretzen2783]

Brilliantly made, and informative video. 👍👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you

[@250danny]

Thanks for the great video review once again... btw there is a nice 16M in straststone manchester dealer i ve seen few weeks ago, in Bianco, ex JK car with a speacial plaque ,looks impressive but like you said its v.high price tag!!!

[@sickjohnson]

Damian, why do I get the feeling you did this impressive video with very little effort? Your knowledge of Ferrari might be unmatched in this segment...?

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Actually, the complete opposite - the horror stories I could tell…

[@sickjohnson]

@@TheCarGuysTV 😯Oh snap...well your efforts were not wasted...wow!

[@robertlloyd7493]

Big up to James 👍

[@noelht1]

19:55 I like that the vapour coming from the exhaust is actually evaporated Greta Thunberg tears. I like that very much.

[@petemorbius3936]

nice info...superb car

[@stephenrooker1941]

Great review Keep up the good work

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks

[@brianweekes1]

this is a lovely vid, what a car that 430 Scud is. The thing that never ceases to amaze me, is the use of cheap trainer material in the seats, I suppose that’s to help the driver/passengers sweaty back to dry out sooner 😂, from those poo pants moments with all that torque

[@911aircooled5]

Sweet ride, and almost a full analog driver experience. Cheap in the UK, 3 for sale in Oz, but 350-370,000pound (A$650-700k). ouch!!

[@fiestaria]

This is superb content. Nice one

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you

[@boostedt0y]

Love my scud….add an x-pipe and you get the trumpet sound like the cs over 6k rpm. Add in some sport cats and you won’t believe your ears

[@nimedave]

I’m about to put your words to the test Damian and take mine on a couple of big euro trips. My question is do I leave the Cup2 tyres on or switch to something more general purpose?

[@sympathyforthebezel6068]

I like the Damian solo episodes. He IS the Car Guys…

[@Μανος13]

As always incredible review! i thought that jay emm's scud was grey.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

His previous one was

[@kevincockburn7805]

But is it better than a 1984 lada riva in hearing aid beige. The jury is still out on that.

[@noelht1]

Don’t diss on Ladas. When I got married in 2017 I had a lada Riva Estate as my wedding car.

[@kevincockburn7805]

@@noelht1 the choice of a champion

[@noelht1]

@@kevincockburn7805 I did get married in central Ukraine, so what else was I going to take.

[@Exoticar12]

Hi, my name is Vinnie, can you do an analysis of 458 speciale apertas, Ferri f430 spiders, Ferrari 16m Scuderia Spiders, and 812 superfast, 812 gts, and 812 competiziones, and for the new upcoming Cars, sf90 vs model, and f250, and laferrari. Thank you. I would love to purchase and sell my f430 spider and buy a Ferrari 430 16M scuderia spider. I do own a 812 gts and 458 aperta, maybe i might go for a 599 gto. Let me know. You should do an analysis of the v12 models, and the limited edition ferrari models. Thank you so much!!!

[@pauln0371]

It is notoriously hard to weld aluminium and produce a nice clean looking weld..

[@MrDieselakias]

but do you prefer the 458 speciale ? The 488 has a numb steering wheel feel but what about VS the 458?

[@PetrolBeast]

Is it me being drunk or did the rear left brake lights shook on idle?😅

[@Lukec4ge]

‘A lookout on the Titanic🤣’….love it. What an amazing car. The journos at the time loved it. But 430 looks have never been my bag- functional, but not beautiful. If I were in for the money level to buy one, I’d probably still go for a boggo 458…it’s like the average looking girl with the great athleticism, versus her stunning younger sister that you melt at as soon as you see her…

[@richard-markdodds305]

Ok here we go, I bought a Challenge Stradale in 2003 lovely car but totally gutless unless you rev the hell out of it, was never happier to p/x for a 430 Scud in 2011. The 430 Scuds redeeming feature is the gearbox but its achielles heel is the shorter exhaust path so it sounds crap vs a standand F430. So where am I today, well 2 years ago I swapped the Scud for an ultra low mileage 991 GT3 RS which is a massive superior car in all respects. Outside of this I bought a new F430 spider in 2008 which I have pretty much converted to 16M spec and is the car I love the most and drive the most

[@TheCarGuysTV]

V interesting perspective, thanks