Tipu Sultan

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In this podcast, Kushal speaks with Vikram Sampath about his book, "Tipu Sultan: The Saga of Mysore's Interregnum (1760-1799)."
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@UmaKumar-k5u
@UmaKumar-k5u 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for a very honest discussion
@MRao56259
@MRao56259 7 күн бұрын
My favourite channel for everything under the sky. Thank you, Kushal Ji.
@vimali2713
@vimali2713 7 күн бұрын
I've already got the book and can't wait to finish it. 😊
@k26295
@k26295 6 күн бұрын
The way it's written makes it very hard to side with any side regarding their competence but at last the extremes of Tipu do come out loudly.
@nikhildeodhar143
@nikhildeodhar143 7 күн бұрын
At 1:02 into the video, just a quick disagreement from me: WHY should you control your anger, when you are reading about the atrocities? In my view, controlling your anger, and forgiving the other side is only required when the other side is interested in atonement. If they aren't, if they are going to be your enemy, what's the point? We SHOULD feel anger. We should feel hatred. Because it's not just about something in 1700s. It's about what is happening now. I know it's too extreme of a view. Something that can lead to terrible actions. But it's also an instinct which is critical for survival.
@kevinsequeira2352
@kevinsequeira2352 5 күн бұрын
It's not extreme. It's good sense.
@seemavkn1680
@seemavkn1680 4 күн бұрын
This what veer Savarkar also emphasized,the same fear should be created in enemies,then only he will understand and stop.
@vasusingh5046
@vasusingh5046 7 күн бұрын
Banger podcast. Loved it. And as usual Vikram is always great to hear.
@vijaynair6161
@vijaynair6161 2 күн бұрын
What an absolute pleasure to listen to your podcast. Very informative and entertaining. Shared it with many people
@Alduizard
@Alduizard 7 күн бұрын
17:10 This is nothing, I still remember in my secondary school NCERT history textbook, Tipu was shown alongside Rani Laxmibai and a few others, as a freedom fighter against the british colonial rule. None of what he did was mentioned, only that was one of the great heroes who revolted against and fought the british.
@kpt2056
@kpt2056 7 күн бұрын
But to clear upsc you have to read these ncerts and also if you will read spectrum modern indian history you will find it to be neutral with Tipu Sultan.
@manisherande4568
@manisherande4568 7 күн бұрын
He was he fight valiant aganist British....leave aside his Anti hindu issues...he was pioneer of rockets in india..don't be hindupki
@dengxaoping5031
@dengxaoping5031 5 күн бұрын
​@@manisherande4568 By the same logic Osama bin Laden was hailed in the USA for a while because he fought against USSR. Tipu was pure evil and no freedom fighter, let's be black and white about it.
@sreelatamajumdar9241
@sreelatamajumdar9241 7 күн бұрын
Tipu's sons were brought to Calcutta by the British as hostage. There is a masjid named after Tipu Sultan and there are roads named after the sons in Calcutta.
@memyselfaman
@memyselfaman 7 күн бұрын
I would rather have a public holiday celebrating Vikram Jayanti him being as a true sun of the soil and for his many scholarly contributions to Indian history.
@vasusingh5046
@vasusingh5046 7 күн бұрын
True.
@pramod_p5
@pramod_p5 7 күн бұрын
Ayo brother, Jayanti is done after someone passes away
@biswajeet9826
@biswajeet9826 7 күн бұрын
​@@pramod_p5 exactly 😂😂
@Keenobserver108
@Keenobserver108 7 күн бұрын
Would love to know more about the conflict between Tipu and the Nairs of Malabar and Travancore. Tipu was defeated in the battle of Nedumkotta
@agentravi00007
@agentravi00007 7 күн бұрын
Who is a tipu? hero or villan as per local kannada people. We have studied ncert book. As per ncert tipu sultan has glorified.
@dktvm7679
@dktvm7679 7 күн бұрын
yes he was defeated by combined force of Travancore and Kochi at that time. he also got injured in his leg in this war. This injury i feel would have contributed to him being killed in war with British later as he could not run away. In south Kerala there is tradition to name dogs as Tipu still...
@bhanuvaradarajan9925
@bhanuvaradarajan9925 4 күн бұрын
Last year my colleague from Osmania University put Tipu Sultan's birthday in Retired Teachers portal. I objected to it and when he asked for proof for my objection I sent a proof from Sandeep Balkrishna talk on KZbin. I would like send Vikram Sampat's study too.
@kp32kumar
@kp32kumar 2 күн бұрын
Great initiative by Vikram ji
@k26295
@k26295 6 күн бұрын
Very well written book citing many accounts. Research done is top notch even at times vikram's angst as comes out at the obvious things that the tyrant did.
@ravinderpoojari1
@ravinderpoojari1 3 күн бұрын
Thank you Sir
@Noname-oq9mk
@Noname-oq9mk 7 күн бұрын
Outstanding.....
@vijaynair6161
@vijaynair6161 3 күн бұрын
Got the book and enjoying it ❤❤❤
@mtarkes
@mtarkes 7 күн бұрын
In our school we only learnt about Hyder Ali, I came to know about Tipu Sultan only from the TV serial.
@RPRCOA.84
@RPRCOA.84 6 күн бұрын
That's unlikely.. you might've forgotten. Though Hyder Ali laid the foundations, it was Tippu Sultan who did most of the aggression. Hyder Ali died midway through the second Anglo-Mysore campaign. Tippu Sultan carried on with his efforts until he died towards the culmination of the fourth Anglo-Mysore campaign. During my school years (late 70's - early 80's), the text books on history especially in the southern Indian region had copious information on his rule.
@HimanshuJain-m9c
@HimanshuJain-m9c 7 күн бұрын
After seeing this podcast I I started watching that show the sword of Tipu Sultan on KZbin
@kajalsingh9554
@kajalsingh9554 7 күн бұрын
Excellent podcast. I hope TCP does more of these in-depth interviews.
@ramachandraization
@ramachandraization 3 күн бұрын
Lot of thanks for this scholarly research book. We must know this like thuth, history, and take due lessons .
@ananths8828
@ananths8828 7 күн бұрын
Wow. What he is doing with the research is great.
@ajaydewan2912
@ajaydewan2912 7 күн бұрын
Interesting, i am a poor reader so this podcast gives good insights about Tipu.
@harikrishnayadav3320
@harikrishnayadav3320 7 күн бұрын
42:35 sounds like Lannister dynasty in game of thrones 😅 Haider Ali is Tywin Lannister Tipu is Cersei Lannister
@User_877
@User_877 7 күн бұрын
Nice reference
@KasDlonewolf
@KasDlonewolf 6 күн бұрын
Cersei 😂😂😂😂
@rimurutempest2130
@rimurutempest2130 4 күн бұрын
Watching this from palace of Wodeyars .
@kodavatribe
@kodavatribe 7 күн бұрын
Tall, well built, brave, beautiful and courageous are just a few words commonly used to describe Kodava race. Kodava tribe has come a long way to earn the title warrior popularly known in Indian army as Kodava Warriors. The history of Kodavas is definitely one of the most fascinating and the bloodiest among any other civilization in India. My article is based on facts that are documented by historians and based on books which have highlighted the bloodbath of Kodava warriors, The article concentrates on Tippu and his cold-blooded killings. If Kodava today is one of the second least populated race in this world, it’s because of a barbaric character from the history known to people as Tipu Sultan. There were repeated attempts to capture Kodagu by Tipu and his father Hyder Ali before him. Tipu’s barbarism reached its peak from 1760 to 1790 and this period is considered as one of the most gruesome eras in the history of Kodavas. Tipu’s closest commander Mir Kirmani on his book reveals the incidence pertaining to Tippu’s brutality and religious conversion. During the year 1760 - 1780 Tippu destroyed more than 600 temples across Kodagu. His cruelty and self-obsession had reached its peak when his closest left him in the final war with British where Tipu died in the stampede, He was not shot by Brits. When Tipu first invaded Kodagu with his well-equipped 15000 army men carrying French Cannon with an intention of conquering Kodagu overnight Kandanda Doddaiah and Appachira Mandanna with their troop of 5000 Kodavas retaliated against Tippu’s army near Suntikoppa only to defeat Tippu’s army and chase them out of Kodagu. This war with Tippu is documented in Hunsoor literature which states “Kari Kupasu totha Kodavaru Kari Dumbhi anthe tippuvinatha nugi, hodedhodisidharu” Historians say this was a war of bravery verse strength and by the time Tippu realized the courage of Kodava’s he was defeated. Tippu popularly known and projected today as Tiger of Mysore and pride of Karnataka was defeated by Kodava 31 times during 25 years of war and this humiliation forced Tippu to seek revenge on Kodava. Kodavas were the master of the guerrilla warfare hence they succeeded every time in ambushing Tippu. In the year 1771, Tipu with a large army attacked Madikeri fort post which he captured Bhagamandala and converted the entire Bhagandeshwara temple and its premises to a fort. He had also chopped the elephants belonging to the temple, documents for the same is available in the temple even today. After capturing Bhagamandala as a tribute to himself, Tippu placed a stone titled “Salam Kallu” which can be seen on the way to Talacavery, A evidence which even today tells the stories of brutality and bloodbath. After 15 years of war and retaliation with Kodavas, Tipu had understood he would not be able to capture the entire Kodagu which would provide him easy access to Mangalore port hence he wanted to try something different. Something, which resulted in one of the biggest genocide of the human race. Tipu sent a message to naal naad Kodavas inviting them for a negotiation stating his main enemies were Marathas and British hence he would want to end the war with Kodava and head back to Srirangapatana. Learning about the invite Kodavas from naal naad gathered with their family on 13th of December 1785 at Devatiparambu located on banks of the river Cauvery to negotiate and bid bye to the decade-long war. As Sun set behind the mountains of Kodagu, Kodava came to Devatiparambu unarmed meanwhile half of Tippu’s army was deployed inside the forest waiting for Kodavas to gather as a part of his cowardly plan, once Tippu was sure he had unarmed men trapped he ordered his army to massacre all Kodava present at Devatiparambu, troops hiding behind the bushes pounded on unarmed men, women and kids slaughtering more than 70,000 and capturing about 90,000 Kodavas and were deported to Seringapatam. The captured women and children’s were subjected to immense physical and mental torture the young men were all forcibly circumcised and incorporated into the Ahmedy Corps (name of Tippu’s army). The captured were subjected to forcible conversions to Islam, death, and torture. It’s said the scale of the massacre was so huge that the water in the Cauvery river turned red due to blood oozing out of the dead bodies and continued to flow red in color for 12 consecutive days. Many who were captured were converted to Islam and sent back to Kodagu called themselves as Kodava Mapilas. There are about 60 Kodava Mapilas family residing in Kodagu. They share same family names as that of Kodavas. in Devanageri village, Puliyanda Kodava mapilas resides and in the regions surrounding Virajpet, there are Muslim family names like Kuvalera, Italtanda, Mitaltanda, Kuppodanda, Kappanjeera. Similarly, in the Madikeri taluk, there are Kalera, Chekkera, Charmakaranda, Maniyanda, Balasojikaranda, and Mandeyanda in the Hoddur village in Madikeri taluk. Kodava mapilas also use Kodava Ornaments, Mandamada Kodava mapilas still use tookbolcha in their home, at the temples in Bshettigeri and Hudikeri, Karthura and Mandamada Kodava mapilas are priests. At yemmemadu dargah festival even to this date Kodava mapilas start the festival proceedings by offering prayers and flinging rice, Chekkera and Kalera Kodava mapilas are takkanga at yemmemadu. The existence of these Kodava Mapilas are another living evidence reflecting the barbarism of Tipu on Kodavas. Tipu believed in destroying temples in Kodagu, during his course of destruction he happened to destroy a bhagavadhi temple near Kotakeri and burnt Biddatanda ainmane where he captured 48 innocent people and took them along to Seringapatam among these 40 people Appanna managed to escape and returned to his village in Kodagu however Appanna was out casted since villagers thought he was converted to Islam. Appanna lived alone till death near a pond which is called Appannajjanda Kere. The pond can be found even today. The remains of the Biddatanda Ain-Mane which were burnt with people inside shouting for help tells the horrific mindset of Tipu and his brigade. Tipu after capturing Madikeri fort set his eyes on removing Kalasa from the Omkareshwara temple and replaced it with the domb which is another architectural evidence for destruction Tippu carried out during his rule. Tippu also wanted to abolish Kannada completely and hence he introduced Persian language into his administration. The persian words like “Dhapan, Barcas and Jammabandi ”still used in our land documents at Kodagu shows Tippu at any cost wanted to eliminate Kannada from Karnataka. It’s an irony that government wants to celebrate Tipu’s birthday across Karnataka. The evidence not only indicates that he was not a conqueror but a religious fanatic and a dictator who believed in the ethical cleansing of Kodavas and other community in south India. The evidence for the bloodiest history of Kodagu and Kodava exist even today and is documented. A history which is filled with inhumanness, violence and genocide a history which is today rewritten by politicians to lionize a mass murderer and efforts to project him as a hero is not only hurting the sentiments of Kodava, but it’s also sending out a wrong message about our history to the future generation of this country. A man who lost the battle 31 times and killed the brave Kodava warriors by infidelity can never be a Hero. Tippu was an invader, a dictator a coward and a Murderer of the human race and glorifying such inhuman personality is an absolute shame and disgrace to humanity. The real history needs to be told to the next generation for them to know who the real warriors of the Kodava Land were.
@secularmama
@secularmama 5 күн бұрын
All this history is fine, but what is current situation, Scholars from Kodagu say Kodavas are not Hindus, demography change in Kodagu, people have become modern like British, Rich people does not respect poor or middle class etc. ?
@NipunCDG
@NipunCDG 5 күн бұрын
I have purchased this book but read only a few pages so far..I am intrested in Haider Ali story more
@sudhameerasampalli6707
@sudhameerasampalli6707 7 күн бұрын
There is a hospital named after Bowring (govt) in Bangalore
@abhay_cs
@abhay_cs 6 күн бұрын
Club too
@Cha-s2w
@Cha-s2w 6 күн бұрын
Indebted to Vikram and Kushal
@chaitanyakada1341
@chaitanyakada1341 7 күн бұрын
Hindus should understand their history and stay united.
@RykerBrown-y2r
@RykerBrown-y2r 7 күн бұрын
Watch his conversation on dostcast you will learn a lot about tipu in deep
@agadre856
@agadre856 7 күн бұрын
Checked on Amazon. In the US its available only on Kindle and not in book form?
@cheshta980-v5p
@cheshta980-v5p 7 күн бұрын
Great podcast learnt many new things and debunked many old also
@gouniraghuvamshigoud
@gouniraghuvamshigoud 3 күн бұрын
Great🙌
@yogidhamijakonde
@yogidhamijakonde 7 күн бұрын
Kudos! And about Maratha empire issues and Raghoba, yes we know. I meant we maharashtrians who studied in Marathi medium were told this truth and this event in the history still bites us all the time! The Indian history would have been very different and we would be a Hindu rashtra if this idiot Raghoba wasn’t a traitor 😢
@judhajitsarkar1852
@judhajitsarkar1852 7 күн бұрын
Please bring out an affordable paperback of Vikram book
@sbaskaran7638
@sbaskaran7638 2 күн бұрын
Vikram please write a book on Christian missionaries like Caldwell, GU Pope etc and its role in shaping the Dravidianism in TN.
@SantoshK.Mangalore
@SantoshK.Mangalore Күн бұрын
The naming of dogs as Tipu by the British is still in use in parts of coastal Karnataka.
@Kaali_khetra
@Kaali_khetra 7 күн бұрын
Viram sampath i request you to write about siraj ud daullah of bengal. Misinformation spread by communist to dismantle historical facts have completely distorted the history of benagla nd oppression of hindus under siraj ud daullah
@ramachandraization
@ramachandraization 3 күн бұрын
Battle of Plassi.
@SanjaysharmaPillalamarri
@SanjaysharmaPillalamarri 7 күн бұрын
a serial was made on him in napakistan
@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf
@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf 7 күн бұрын
Also in India too.
@kshitijdeshmukh2654
@kshitijdeshmukh2654 7 күн бұрын
Download kab available hoga
@josephfernandes37
@josephfernandes37 7 күн бұрын
What is the name of the book
@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf
@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf 7 күн бұрын
Tipu Sultan: The Saga of Mysore's Interregnum (1760-1799)
@fantoosh151
@fantoosh151 4 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@kunalseth6437
@kunalseth6437 7 күн бұрын
👍
@nothing21797
@nothing21797 7 күн бұрын
I am going to gift this book to my MLA Abbaya , who wanted to change Mysore airport name.
@manisherande4568
@manisherande4568 7 күн бұрын
Tipu gave valiant fight to British..he was pioneer of rockets in India
@kajucurrybutternan9000
@kajucurrybutternan9000 7 күн бұрын
Yeah he just launched plsv from sriranga patnam ​@@manisherande4568
@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi
@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi 7 күн бұрын
​@@manisherande4568 rockets ??? 😂😂😂 I
@manisherande4568
@manisherande4568 7 күн бұрын
@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi yeah you need to read
@ushabhende4040
@ushabhende4040 3 күн бұрын
How is Srinivasan Jain a Ayyengar?
@Sabiqoon-w8y
@Sabiqoon-w8y 7 күн бұрын
As somebody of Pakistani origin, I find this discussion very well, balanced, and nuanced
@bobbyc465
@bobbyc465 5 күн бұрын
Vikram Sampath’s new book on Tipu Sultan, sprawling across roughly 1,000 pages, is a glaring example of how history can be manipulated to serve ideological agendas. The inaccuracies and selective interpretations in this work are disheartening and make a mockery of genuine historical scholarship. What adds salt to the wound is the foreword by S.L. Bhyrappa, an author whose novels I once admired. His association with this book tarnishes his legacy and reflects a disappointing compromise of intellectual standards. Sampath’s portrayal reeks of bias, reflecting his alignment with caste-driven, Hindu-supremacist ideologies that foster animosity toward Muslim rulers. His past works, such as those glorifying Savarkar, reveal him as a mouthpiece for the Modi-BJP ecosystem. Instead of presenting a balanced view that acknowledges both the good and bad aspects of Tipu Sultan’s rule, Sampath positions himself as a master chain dog, barking to please his political masters and their blind followers. This is not the work of a historian but of an ideological propagandist. It’s particularly infuriating that Sampath relies on the assumption that many Indians, due to lack of time or resources, will not dig deep into the references and counter his claims. However, he underestimates the global community of scholars who can easily dismantle his distorted narratives in any credible debate. As a Hindu and a scholar, I find it shameful that such venomous rhetoric is being passed off as historical research. Writers should aim to be broad-minded and present a balanced perspective, not peddle hatred to further political or ideological agendas. This trend among some Indian writers is why Indian research and findings are often dismissed globally. Works like these reinforce the perception that India, with its divisive tendencies, is unfit to truly embody the principles of democracy. This book is an insult to scholarship, and I refuse to let its venom pollute my mind. What a shame for Indian writing and history.
@pshah7979
@pshah7979 7 күн бұрын
Vikramji needs to advertise the FIHCR more openly
@shazsayyed5269
@shazsayyed5269 7 күн бұрын
Bashing Mughals has become the new culture with podcasters....they organize special sessions and invite self appointed authorities on history on such shows and together they work towards concluding that muslims were, are a shall always be a hurdle in the path of this nation's prosperity. Fine, in that case here is a solution, follow it and achieve what you aspire to once and for all: Demolish the Taj Mahal, it has no Islamic relevance anyways and it has been made by a Mughal....to kya agar gaali dekar bhi uska foreign exchange barabar lete ho...never mind whose watching 2. Ask all the well settled hindus working in all the muslims nations to come back to their bhoomi...that way the Hindu population will see a surge like never before and we muslims will have a vaccancy to occupy and make a living for ourselves. Dono khush...hai na...how I wish that those muslim nations would have meted out the same treatment to hindus there that muslims here are given tab pata lagta kaisa lagta hai jab baat baat pe koyi bole chale jao pakistan chale jao falaan jaga...lekin wo alag chaploosi mein lage hue hain kyunki unko tourism chahiye...tel khatam hua na....aise opportunist ko india apna dost samajh raha hai...wow 3. No hindu should be friends with muslims and vice versa... All this will make India a big name and help in retaining its identity as the hindu rashtra....by hindus and for Hindus only....by the way, what all the others in the minority don't realise is that they will be next. So happy watching
@aanakrukavi
@aanakrukavi 6 күн бұрын
U r throwing baby with the bath water. Here issue is suppressing the true history to appease Muslims. Like South Africa if there is truth and reconciliation committee then most issue will get resolved.
@abhay_cs
@abhay_cs 6 күн бұрын
Firstly, Tipu is not a Mughal. Why get so worked up? Feel free to celebrate Tipu Jayanti. Let us see where it takes you
@sujoy1968
@sujoy1968 6 күн бұрын
Such an uneducated comment. How many Hindus are in Muslim nation? I guess you mean Muslim nations = Middle East Arab countries. In total around three million Hindus are in Middle East today which is less than 0.3% India’s population. Even if all of them come back to India, there will be minimal impact to Hindu population percentage in India.
@shazsayyed5269
@shazsayyed5269 6 күн бұрын
@sujoy1968 calling others uneducated does not speak very highly of you my brother....I was not talking about bringing back the hindus settled in muslim nations to have any impact of the Indian population....hum se bahut kaha jaata hai go here go there...I am saying how would your community feel if the same is said to your people well settled living peaceful lives in the muslims nations around the world....hindu muslim ka divide hi karna hai to let's do it in a way that settled scores once and for all....we can't be going on like this for generations where there are other more serious problems in our faces and all bjp talks about is saving Hinduism....from whom? I am not interested in converting any hindu...infact we muslims don't even have any decided targets given to us by any Islamic missionary which says convert these many number by today or tomorrow...when have you found us do that? But bjp is painting everyone in the same color although technically no one has a right to stop someone from liking an ideology.. yet by creating laws against conversions in the name of securing Hinduism they are controlling people's minds..it's like saying no you cannot like islam instead of the other party saying I am being forced into following Islamic value system....so I suggest let us just swap people that way you get the whole of India for yourself and we muslims can go to where you think we are best suited.
@HimanshuJain-m9c
@HimanshuJain-m9c 6 күн бұрын
@@shazsayyed5269 none of those Hindus who are working in Muslim nations are the citizens of that country Even Arabs don't like Muslims who come from southeast Asia They want Indian or Hindus because they do their job properly and didn't create problems from them Mughals are foreigners they are not native to India hack current Muslims in India are basically converted Hindus jains and Buddhist And yet you celebrate the foreigners who who killed your ancestor just because you share their faith. By the way the Mughals don't consider Indian Muslims to be equal to them they always see you as a lower class citizen
@nrusimha11
@nrusimha11 7 күн бұрын
According Darlingpul, this carefully researched history is 'WhatsApp history'.
@PankajPassi-vs9td
@PankajPassi-vs9td 7 күн бұрын
ITS NOT TIPU JUST CALLED IT CUTA TUPA LULSTAN
@rano5792
@rano5792 6 күн бұрын
Are Hindi me bhokle angrejo ko suna rahe ho 😡😡😡
@secularmama
@secularmama 5 күн бұрын
In India most understand English, but half of country does not understand or watch Hindi programs, and present Hindu is Urdu !
@rano5792
@rano5792 5 күн бұрын
@secularmama are uski Baat samajh nhi I Teri kaise samajh ayegi yaar
@secularmama
@secularmama 5 күн бұрын
@@rano5792 Bhai ji aadhe bharat ke log Hindi nahi jante, magar aadhe se jada angreji samajhte hain !
@rano5792
@rano5792 5 күн бұрын
@@secularmama Sahi kaha
А я думаю что за звук такой знакомый? 😂😂😂
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