Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker | EDH Budget Deck Tech $25 | Aristocrats | Magic the Gathering | Commander

[@revelenslightalters]

Quick note on the Bat-maker: Shirei creates a separate delayed trigger for each little creature that dies, so each technically leaves the graveyard separately, giving you one bat for each creature that leaves the yard at the end of turn. It's easy to get, say, five creatures dying and returning on each player's turn, giving you 20, 1/1 fliers in a single turn cycle. You usually just win if Bat-Tomb sticks around...

[@rextheconqueor9307]

I had to back and re-read it and the way its worded each time a creature dies it creates a trigger on the stack for that single creature. That Bat-Tomb is terrifying for this deck.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

I did not know that! That is incredible! My apologies for missing that

[@oom-3262]

oh shit that's actually very scary. I'd say it would be the real golden pig here

[@matterhorn731]

Came down here to mention that. This card is part of why I built this deck.

[@ericjelinek3396]

"This deck is a ton of fun and can get out of control very quickly". This quote was taken from this deck tech and also...pretty much every deck tech Mitch makes

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Haha it's a common theme

[@biggiecheese247]

Great deck. Do you think you could do a budget commander staples: removal video? Just a thought.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Thanks! Maybe in the future! Trying to figure out a balance of deck techs and staples lists that works

[@Carnivalous]

W e l l Guess I'm playing Mono Black now~ By the way -- This channel's single handedly brought me back into TCGs.

[@Rancher.Rancher]

The card Morality Shift is what got me into Mono Black. So many funky things you can do with the card, and with so many tutors making it go off is easy. (Diabolic Revelations is a tutor I highly recommend in black.)

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Glad you enjoyed it and the channel!

[@KromeDrone]

I built this deck a while ago and is was semi-effective. The deck really does fall apart if you don't protect Shirei. One of the best creatures I used was Bottle Gnomes. I know three life doesn't seem like much, but incidental three life over the course of a game while you're grabbing back everything else is really good. One of the traps is Abyssal Gatekeeper. Too often I'd end up having to sac Shirei because someone would remove another one of my other creatures in response, slowing the engine down because she already costs 4B. Never play this thing unless you're in the late game (low spot removal) or have at least another creature out PLUS your commander. Hope of Ghirapur is a nice addition for cheap as well, because not only does it block flying (something the deck has a hard time doing), it can actually save you from someone casting a board wipe if you can tell its coming. I'd also add in Bontu's Monument as that helped me stay afloat and mitigate some of the commander tax that was built up. Overall the deck is fun to play, but HEAVILY relies on the commander that keep it around is integral. Hammer of Nazahn is effective mostly because when it comes in, it auto-equips to a creature so you don't have to pay the equip cost. Infernal Tribute is probably one of your best sac outlets if you're going to upgrade because drawing cards is gud.

[@KromeDrone]

Also: Imps Mischief. It's a weird card but it saved me a bunch of times. It's definitely worth the investment.

[@gabrieltwinwithulm7466]

I agree. Definitely feel like a big flaw in most of the decks featured on this channel is that they are very fragile because they are so commander-centric. If someone kills your commander, most of these decks turn off

[@GerBessa]

I'd also add oversold cemetery. You can let Shirei die and grab it back on upkeep (no tax from hand), and get back bigger creatures (Gary, Z. cutthroat) or small creatures that died without shirei in play.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Definitely great notes on the deck and great considerations!

[@mrTjstephens1]

I ran Sheri in a budget League people figured out that the deck relys on the commander. I got beat in every pod. People knew exactly what i was up too fixed that fast!

[@aikenja85]

Would love to see an update on this deck!

[@jasonrustmann7535]

3 years later and i second this request! A lot has come out sense this was made, an update is sorely needed!

[@Xiox]

Agreed! And since he was reported in common in ultimate Masters he's fantastic for a PDH deck

[@eewweeppkk]

Its crazy to see some of the price adjustments since this video released. Pitiless plunderer increased by nearly 100 times the cost in this video compared to today.

[@panther-man9197]

SO YOU ARE SAYING PITILESS PLUNDERER WAS ONLY 13 CENTS!!!! We all missed out

[@xerovenom5230]

Hmm... the golden pig. How about a Krav and Regna deck?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Would be a fun one!

[@GrabnarDaCzar]

Skittering Surveyor finally made it into a deck! It has been in the opening of every video, when it says that the deck is "focused." Fun aside, this deck is awesome. I've played Shirei in regular 60 card casually and it is a blast! Seems far to risky in commander though, as people can just hold up countermagic/removal for him. The answers against permission are just not plentiful enough without reducing the potency of the deck. Regardless, among the Monoblack commanders, this is by far the most fun and fair.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Haha it finally did!

[@airkami]

I feel like you want to and have to run indestructible instants Regnegade's Getaway Rush of Vitality Without Weakness Pros: It sets up a board wipe to bring all of your dudes back instead of none of them, and it saves you from having to pay commander tax Con: It does cost a card slot for each card

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Good considerations!

[@carsonharral8954]

~~~Some notable upgrades from recent sets!~~~ Syr Konrad ~1USD expensive cmc but better zulaport cutthroat in this deck. should basically win you the game. I slot in over slumlord. Blight Mound ~1USD for what is pretty much a strictly (subjectively) better Open the Graves. Why not Have menace-y 2/1's that gain you life? Serrated Scorpion (Bulk) Strictly better (objectively) Infectious Host. Yarok's Fenlurker (Bulk) an absolutely brutal card that will make you the arch-enemy very quickly Gift of Doom ~1USD protection for Shirei that can dodge both creature and enchantment removal! make board wipes your friend. Clattering Augur (bulk) cantrips and can be recursion if you do get wiped to help stabilize. Shambling Ghast (bullk) my poor man's version of Pitiless Plunderer since it is now a 15$ card. Get a treasure or kill a mana dork- every turn! Woe Strider ~1USD viscera seer copy 2 in a deck that really needs free sac outlets Plumb the Forbidden ~1USD Hopefully draw into something that wins the game- Gary, or sac outlet, or an "artist" effect, etc Big Game Hunter - it is on the upgrade list but I think it got reprinted and is dirt cheap (0.14USD) now. Hits a lot of commanders... Witch's Cottage (bulk) basically a free spell in a mono black deck, and it is a swamp for coffers. Bastion of Remembrance ~3$ basically a zulaport cutthroat enchantment. I don't know if it is an improvement- But more copies of powerful effects is usually more beter ~~~Things I have learned playing this deck:~~~ -Tap abilities need to be exceptionally strong to make the cut, since you have to wait a whole turn cycle to use it the first time, and then you only get to use it once per your turns- you really want to be generating value asap when you drop something and iterating it on every player's turn -Your commander will become a target and has only 2 toughness. This is sad, and if you notice your local meta is catching on to kill her on sight, try and slot in the "swiftfoot boots" and cards like "Professor's Warning". between hexproof and indestructible you *should* be good. -Avoid playing Shirei until you already have a value engine on board to profit from, or a good way to protect her. -Bogbrew Witch, Festering Newt and Bubbling Cauldron are a cute combo, but slow and not worth all 3 card slots. It took me several times being very disappointed to draw into any one of these cards to realize this. So basically I added and then cut this bad combo. ~~~Upgrades I have made and their dollar amount(ish)~~~ High Market ~0.50USD a "free" sac outlet (basically costs one mana, but doesn't take a spell slot) Priest of the Forgotten Gods $3 and so worth it. one of 2 tap abilities I kept in the final deck. Do note you can target yourself if you need an extra sac for the low cost of 2 life. Bolas Citadel $5 usually wins game for 6 mana Westvale Abby $10 a land that can win you the game for 6 mana (I had one laying around and just threw it in- and wowsers. Several wins off that) ~~~This deck's high dollar Wishlist~~~ Cabal coffers Cabal Stronghold Altar of Dementia Phyrexian Altar Ashnod's Altar Yawgmoth, Thran Physician - Dear god. Basically necropotence on a stick. and a kill spell, and it digs for Gary, and make him recur off Shirei. It is undoubtedly the best lieutenant of the deck, with the price tag to match. Dictate of Erebos effects Meathook massacre- you may be playing it on with X=0 and that is entirely OK, the static effect is just worth it.

[@hjaltihjartarson]

Third deck I buy that you create! I love these decks so much... Only problem I have now is that I have 7 commander decks.... Atleast I don't do standard and modern anymore :D

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Glad you are enjoying them! Haha true

[@hjaltihjartarson]

You are doing a super job, looking for upgrade proposals for my locust god deck though :) It seems to get killed so fast after it comes out. I always have to have 1-2 draw/wheel spells ready when he is played or he just gets oblitirated.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

@@hjaltihjartarson Definitely can use an upgraded protection package in certain metas!

[@jacksonbrown1830]

Dang, this deck is worth like $100 dollars now. I wish I would have built it sooner. it definitely has some great new budget options though like: Priest of the forgotten god Whisper, Blood liturgist cauldron familiar yarok'd fenlurker serrated scorpion vindictive vampire I'm trying to build it modified for under $40 right now.

[@willbill6942]

Jeez, Pitiless Plunderer was only 13 cents in 2018!? Last I checked it was 100x that price!

[@Academecha]

First thing, love that this is a proper shirei deck and not shadowborn apostles. Second, did you skim over chimney imp or just deem it too unfun? It’s a pretty powerful lock once shirei is up and running.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

It's powerful but costly. Tried to keep the CMC down to take advantage of casting a lot of things

[@Academecha]

@@TheCommandersQuarters Fair enough. Friend of mine has a similar build with it in. I really like how both zada and this encourage you to play bizarre forgotten limited cards, and imp is iconic as such.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

@@Academecha agreed! And that's what I love about both of those commanders!

[@andrewsigrist9981]

Heyo, I know this is an old video, but I just thought I'd give you a heads up about the Desecrated Tomb interaction. Since Shirei creates a delayed trigger when a creature dies, and each delayed trigger triggers separately, you get 1 bat per creature that comes back because they dont all return at the same time. They DO all return on the same step, but because separate triggers are causing them to return, they technically return individually within that step, so desecrated tomb is WAY better with Shirei than you thought.

[@jalchi8367]

pls do Arixmethes

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Would be a fun one! Maybe in the future!

[@fearanarchy]

Dies to Elesh Norn x-p. Had to say it. Glad this see more discussion.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Many things do

[@jakemccarty2425]

Flash in that good old Dictate of Erabos and make that Elesh Norn wipe itself and the table if it hits

[@matheusrudzevicius6448]

Mausoleum secrets would be a nice addition as well

[@hildaalone2232]

that card is soo underreated. i play it in tasigur and i couldnt like it more

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A good consideration!

[@xakuyer]

How about Hallar, the fire fletcher, most of the kicker spells are pretty cheap, si it could turn out well

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Would be a fun one!

[@liamcringle5452]

Wheres skullclamp

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

With skullclamp you don't get your 1 power creatures back since they would have 2 power

[@liamcringle5452]

@@TheCommandersQuarters i see. I really just think skullclamp is 1; sacrifice a one toughness creature: draw 2 cards

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

@@liamcringle5452Yes, but then you don't get it back from Shirei. Might be good for a token, but not otherwise. Otherwise your commander is useless.

[@thra-x1855]

Shirei is one of my favorite cards of all time! I tinker with the decks i have him in all the time. i would suggest empty the catacombs and mortuary mire for this one.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Good considerations!

[@brianleach6539]

I remember when Top and Go Productions did a deck tech for this commander. Glad to see other people trying it out :)

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice!

[@auronit927]

Krav/Regna would be sweet! Any chance you could tackle that?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Maybe in the future!

[@drabynoopsIRL]

I've been retooling my Artisan Shirei deck and I came back to this video to see if I missed anything. I did miss some stuff and I'm excited to keep retooling it. Also, Pitliless Plunderer was 13 cents when this was released LMFAO

[@SteelTheRobot]

Yeah this popped up in my recommended cause I built a Shirei deck and wanted to give it a quick watch to see if there’s any interesting tech I might have missed. This caught me VERY off guard lol.

[@mateuszcegowski499]

I've built simillar deck recently and it works marvelous. Keeping Shirei in play is crucial so i put some cards that prevent removing her. I added Corrosive Mentor which extremely changes how this deck works when in play. Orc Sureshot and Wall of Limbs are huge in this deck. If anyone want to check it: deckstats.net/decks/134672/1333101-return-through-death/en

[@bonnee123]

Nice your deck is very nice

[@bobymaidentube]

Make "Double The Quarter Budget Commander Deck Tech"" Diversify your crew way of playing with different budget :) "

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A good thing for me to consider!

[@gimmickaccount650]

Opponent: *plays hokori dust drinker*, “alright I’ll play mana crypt and a plains and cast Rest In Peace” Shirei player: *scoops game*

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Haha it happens

[@T4N7]

I used this guy for a demon Toolbox deck with 40 Shadowborn apostles.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice!

[@alder-iris]

I've been planning on building shirei for a long time now, and now this exists. It's fate, I guess.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Indeed it is!

[@jamesjames5965]

Needs hope of ghirapur to lock out a opponent from their non creature stuff

[@stephenklien]

Nice!

[@Academecha]

Or just chimney imp to lock out everyone forever...

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A good consideration in the right meta

[@andrewvirtue5048]

Built this deck. (Made a few minor upgrades) Love it.

[@duskdark2329]

Smh no mention of the reson to play thos commander, the laughing stock of mirroden era magic chimmney imp! You haven't lived till you've locked a player out with the imp father.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A good consideration!

[@roberionetto]

Awesome deck tech, ive built one! :D Could u guys do a deck tech for Ishkanah, Grafwidow?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice! Maybe in the future!

[@timothybuehler1823]

Can you please make a deck on Teshar, Ancestor’s Apostle or Horobi, Death’s Wail?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Would be fun ones!

[@MrLoveless90210]

There is one downside to this deck and that are cards that say opponents can't sacrifice creature's to activate effect's.

[@jacksonbrown1830]

magic is a pretty balanced game. every strategy as a counter strategy. The question is how many opponents are running cards like that and can you answer them.

[@stevenguitink5947]

I found Hecatomb is really good for this deck too. Considering you already have a critical mass of creatures when you play this card, it's basically a way to ping things or players to death.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Hmmmm not familiar with that card?

[@stevenguitink5947]

@@TheCommandersQuarters scryfall.com/card/me1/71/hecatomb

[@rayneofsalt9217]

Could definitely do with some more removal, tutors and graveyard recursion/protection. There's quite a few creatures that could be easily cut to give you a bit more flexibility. Razaketh, The Foulblooded should also be on the list - he's a big, scary sac outlet that tutors.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Good things to consider

[@marcosmuratori9787]

Shirei boi is a good boi. Hey have you considered doing an Experiment Kraj deck or other very strange commander?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Would be a fun one!

[@masongroner7786]

Love it! But where is the phage the untuchable deck?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Lazav has her in that deck ;)

[@maxaltendorf3090]

I made a Brudiclad deck thanks to your last video. Any chance of a Krenko Mob Boss in the future?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice! Maybe!

[@maxaltendorf3090]

@@TheCommandersQuarters Tbh I just enjoy putting creatures on the board and turning them sideways. Thanks again for the Brudiclad deck, played it a few times now, have a blast each time.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

@@maxaltendorf3090 I do too haha. And no problem, glad you are enjoying it!

[@BloodLegaZ]

Very nice video. The sac outlet aura is very nice find imo. I notice their are little to no board wipes. Is this budget reasons or what?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Just playstyle for the deck. Can definitely add effective ones in if you want! Killing Wave is great

[@xquizate8777]

good on you for not taking the low road with shadowborn apostle.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A fun deck as well I am sure! Not sure if it could ever be budget though since Shadowborn is $3.90, which is insane!

[@Roylucky13]

Grave pact, crypt ghast, magus of the coffers, and nirkana revnant would be good includes too

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Good considerations!

[@ТимофейНикифоров-ф9х]

Great video! How about Yidris or Kynaios and Tiro Deck?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Would be a fun one!

[@tomrothbauer8274]

I have shirei inside my Bogbrew witch deck

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice!

[@BozzLightyr]

I bought this guy a while a go but never used him in a deck. Hmmm. Maybe I should build this....

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

It's a fun one!

[@TheVurian]

I have an update of a request for you now! ishai//vial smasher budget deck. A budget deck with 2 pair commanders please!

[@danadrian2752]

Noob question here, can I play Sling Gang Lieutenant with Shirei as my Commander? It itself is black but it creates red tokens. I know if a card has Mana symbols in its text or transforms into a different color I can’t play it but what about creating things of a different color?

[@matheusrudzevicius6448]

Great deck as usual, glad that you put black market in the upgrades, that card is nasty in this deck, i have seen it generate more than 30 mana if not dealt with, but why no crypt of agadeem? Sure it isent a black market but its quite nice when you are going of and sacrificing like 10 creatures, or if someone board wipes it helps a lot with the rebuilding Ps: now that my predictions have come true its time... to hack into your computer again... i mean do some deckbuilding totaly not a hacker

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Haha nice

[@mtgshinigami3709]

Going with mono black decks....why not horobi, death's wail? Bet it would test your budget building skills

[@gregorycornelius2960]

Could you do Sygg, River Guide?? All the options i have found just blow my wallet up but i want to do a tribal merfolk deck so badly

[@metalfreekz13]

I noticed you have no infinite combo decks for the spikes. You should do a commander excluded with Mikaeus, The Unhallowed 😉

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Oh I do have a few episodes on infinite combos. Zacama and Lyzolda are built completely around infinite combos, and Jhoira is basically infinite too. And then there are ones like Zada and Adeliz which have effective infinite combos in them

[@metalfreekz13]

Ah. They didnt seem like infinite combo generals. Still, Id like to see what you can do with Mikaeus. Id still also like to see what you could do with Glissa, The Traitor as well.

[@VoltVizenti]

What about Killing Wave? It's a card I always liked, but I think in this deck it can do wanders: you can tap 1 black to sacrifice any creature you want, or tap more and force your opponents to sacrifice creatures, while you may handle the board wipe better!

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A great card to consider!

[@GaryFromLiberty]

although super rarely helpful, Krav can be used to make you (or another player if they agree to) shuffle your deck with its partner effect. Not usually important but its not nothing

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Ah good call!

[@bofdar]

I've been looking for a mono black commander to toy with, decision made.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice!

[@Roylucky13]

Yeeeeeesssss!!!! I recently tried to build a demon sacrifice deck but it didn't quite work like I wanted it too but I did get a lot of these cards for that deck. Perfect commander for the sacrifice theme! This will be the next deck o build great video! You sir are by far my favorite channel keep the videos coming!

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Thanks!

[@flareinc7413]

Ashen-Skin Zubera is fun and in theme w the Commander :) A very cool deck all in all.

[@99thDoom]

Nice! I've been tinkering with a possible Whisper, Blood Liturgist list, and this video gave me some useful suggestions, like Marsh Flitter and Wake the Dead.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice!

[@Niccalo]

I would like to add in skullclamp for consideration as an upgrade.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Chose not to since you wouldn't get the creature back since it gives +1

[@Niccalo]

@@TheCommandersQuarters but does that affect the way the mechanic would work since it would no longer have the +1 once it's in the graveyard? Edit: apparently yes it does.

[@Thr4kus]

Shizo, Warehouse of the Dead is a very cheap land that has a cool effect and is super flavorful for the deck because Shirei here is its caretaker.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Absolutely!

[@estebanjuarez6606]

can your do a krav and his partner commander deck?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Maybe in the future!

[@chef9279]

Every commander beginner must choose between the golden pig playmat or one commanders quarters decks

[@jonstephenson9660]

So I was thinking about shirei and you built this. So I’m just letting you know, I’m also thinking of thromok

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Haha nice

[@kevinfrank8164]

Omg, I made a Sharia Carrie deck last year! It’s the first deck I ever made that actually works and my friends still talk about it all the time

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice!

[@michaelkinsella9473]

You should do Karador, Ghost Chieftain. A budget take on him would be very interesting :)

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Would be a fun one!

[@WhiteIceHawk]

just bought three new decks last week and you just keep releasing awesome decktechs man... I am getting poor

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

I'm sorry haha

[@benrichardson5662]

It doesn't benefit from Shirei but I think Dross Harvester would be good in this deck.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Potentially!

[@RealClassixX]

I miss this kind of voiceover, not that the more energetic tone he has nowadays isn't good, but this more neutral, informative style has just a special charm.

[@brandonsantos9865]

Did you or do you have an updated list for this deck for if you would play it budget today? I'd love to see an up to date budget list!

[@Roylucky13]

Maybe consider adding a mortuary mire as well and hold till you need to get something back from the graveyard.

[@shayneweyker]

Altar of the Brood can be good in this deck as well. Especially if you you have ways to get back artifacts and need to deal with opponents gaining life.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Definitely a consideration!

[@lilymelodie7128]

NICE DECK! I loved that the upgread were more removal. Keep the good work. I realy enjoy it.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Will do!

[@daroiholtsag5233]

Hell's Caretaker is another great budget include , it not only is recurrable with shirei, it can also recurr him and others that slipped by shirei´s grasp.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A great consideration!

[@GaryFromLiberty]

Using your own Plagued Rusalka on Gary to reanimate him with your commander is a next level play

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

It's sooooo mean I love it haha

[@nathones]

Damn Pitiless Plunderer was $0.13. Those were the days.

[@scottricks1676]

Mitch you should double back on old decks and update them with the power creep :)

[@mranonymousmtg962]

Pretty much how I have my 1 fix deck on mtgo. Excellent deck tech

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Thanks!

[@ricky3698]

I know I am really late but I am getting this deck, what all token do I need for this deck?

[@SubSonicEctomorph]

I play a Shirei deck and you nailed the creatures. I also learned a couple new protection enchants, so thank you. Black cat can be brutal because when it dies, an opponent discards at random. Troublesome card for them

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Indeed! If you want to go the discard route there are plenty of great ones! Burglar Rat is pretty good too!

[@xChikyx]

I had to add gate to phyrexia and oblivion stone to my deck because if someone plays graveyard hate, shirei does nothing...

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Definitely good to build in more protection if needed

[@xChikyx]

@@TheCommandersQuarters yeah, so bad black has to rely mostly on artifacts for that :/

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

@@xChikyx agreed :/

[@Willmsford]

I was thinking that Heartless Summoning would be a rock-star in this deck.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Could be!

[@thewintersaint]

this and Meren are my favorite commanders. I'm still trying to find any other commander that is like them. all other aristocrats decks are to based on tokens and sacrificing them.

[@adammacmillan8543]

There is always Athreos, god of passage?

[@thewintersaint]

goes to hand, so is not really the same, but yeah, it's the most similar to them

[@Biigger]

@@thewintersaint Marchesa, the Black Rose is kind of Similar

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Definitely fun commanders to build around!

[@defeeded0887]

You need marienet master with butcher so you can gain control of a target creature sacrificed this way

[@edpaulomcdonnell-velasquez970]

You could probably pull a shadowborn apostle deck with this?

[@OzPearsall]

EY I RUN THIS GUY! He's like one of my favorite commanders.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice!

[@Jasonclark7373]

I have a deck very similar to this one. It really is very fun. I include skull clamp and the the four mana black tutor. Diabolic Tutor. Sometimes it does great but sometimes it gets bogged down when I cannot find a sac outlet or the correct removal.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Have you found skullclamp to be effective? In testing I found that it hurts since the creature doesn't come back due to being bigger than 1 power with the +1

[@Jasonclark7373]

The Commander's Quarters: skull clamp stays on the battlefield because it is an artifact. Thus when the end step trigger happens on shirei, the creature is back down to the original 1 power.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

@@Jasonclark7373 unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Here is some clarification from the Gatherer site: "Shirei’s ability only triggers if the creature’s power immediately before leaving the battlefield is 1 or less, regardless of its power in your graveyard."

[@williamt.4569]

@@TheCommandersQuarters you could use it on tokens maybe?

[@gracegao7731]

Needs mastermind's aquisition and Euruk Thar Master Breeder

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Great considerations!

[@christianrule02]

Pilfering imp would be a good addition to the deck

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A good consideration!

[@kingritopia3283]

This looks like a fun deck

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Indeed it is!

[@samsimmons8370]

Back when Pitiless Plunderer was 13 cents...

[@AwesomethChuc]

Why no cabal stronghold in the upgrade section?

[@matheusrudzevicius6448]

I have it in my shirei, But honestly it is not that great, its realy slow and crypt of agadeem can be like wayyyyyy better

[@fearanarchy]

He usually limits himself to things that really upgrade the deck. A 1x land that makes +2-4 mana is not the same as some other suggestions

[@ElucidYT]

Back when Pitiless Plunderer was $0.13

[@forgottenone5843]

Hey I commented a while back that you should do an azorius commander and you could do Ephara, God of the polis

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Would be a fun one!

[@MrBellasaurus]

Does Desecrated Tomb create a 1/1 bat every time you sac a creature to Shirei?

[@giusa_music9924]

Tree of perdition could be a nice add, especially in multiplayer :)

[@AcidShamp00]

Have you ever considered making a section in your videos thats like "the next level" for suggesting cards that are outside the "budget" mentality for the people who suddenly really like a deck and are willing to put in the additional greens towards the deck? would be very similar to the "reasonable upgrades" section of your videos but obviously you would be looking at some of the cards that are like "holy moly this is good but its like 30 dollars :V" interested in your thoughts on the matter.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Definitely have thought about it, as of now I am leaning towards not doing something like that. Just doesn't seem to be in the budget spirit of the show.

[@AcidShamp00]

@@TheCommandersQuarters Understandable to not want to contradict the point of the series. i only ask because many people (including myself) start off with a budget version of a deck and then fall in love with it and want to tip their wallet upside-down for their favourite commander.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

@@AcidShamp00 Makes sense! I have considered making a follow up episode to some of the videos that goes over what an upgraded version would look like

[@AcidShamp00]

@@TheCommandersQuarters that would be an interesting take, a series on getting a deck started and then a second series based on turning one of those decks from focused to optimised, thats something i would very much like to see.

[@christianwright5813]

Dude this deck is super interesting and seems quite fun! Nice work yet again!

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Thanks!

[@jakemccarty2425]

I played with someone who built this deck. Except it had 40 shadowborn apostles in it. It was actually hilarious. He only ran 2 demons, but he ran a lot of cards dependant on devotion like Abhorrent Overlord and Grey Merchant, as well as having a ball with Strionic Resonator. Good times.

[@jacksonbrown1830]

Shadowborn apostles seems like such a silly deck, once I have this deck I'm going to start collecting demons for my future shadowborn deck

[@shanebernier2483]

Shirei is one of my favorite commanders, and it's nice to see a reasonable budget build for this.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Nice!