War of the Spark w/ Emma Handy & Cedric Phillips | Game Knights 26 | Magic the Gathering Brawl

[@masterdisaster8311]

Can we just appreciate how much work these videos are for the editor(s) every week. All the camera angles, the litte interviews, the card closeups and all the effects in videos over an hour. Just wow

[@subscribeandillbeyourdad4340]

I think there's a video about how josh edited the game knight episodes, and how they filmed it. It really is took a lot of work, but he hired another editor, i think.

[@masterdisaster8311]

Fahri Saefudin do you know what that video is called?

[@subscribeandillbeyourdad4340]

this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJvCq4GEhZaCrbM

[@joshmurphy484]

Thanks! We appreciate all the support. At the end of the day, these things take hundreds and hundreds of hours to make, but we think the outcome is certainly worth it :)

[@Coltdogg]

@@joshmurphy484 MURRRRRRPH!

[@tetracuber8876]

Big missed opportunity to have the mid game intermission when rakdos, the showstopper was played

[@thesadseal2electricboogalo597]

Heh. I like the way you think

[@Shockwave377]

You are a genius

[@nightwingrising5863]

Would've been too perfect

[@benjaminmead9036]

He stopped the show!

[@markkostecki4558]

Ok timeout can we talk about how satisfying that untap was at 56:25

[@AeileonNOTW]

Literally just made this same comment, glad someone else appreciated it lol

[@aquatikhydra]

It was edited to be smoother but yes I agree it was super satisfying

[@fiddlestyxify]

"Let's do Brawl to showcase all the planeswalkers you can put in the command zone!" *2 out of 4 players pick legendary creatures anyway*

[@VBane]

@@cubingexpress8875 Its been stated 100 freaking times. Brawl isnt for EDH players to buy standard cards, if for limited players to have A fun casual use for their collection/draft picks.

[@elijahdavila3684]

@@VBane It seems a little weird to say that when an EDH channel is being sponsored to play it

[@dino-wer-kuh3498]

@@VBane ofc they phrase it that way, lol. "here folks! we have a new format you can play for free with the draft chaff!" sounds waaaay nicer than "dammit! there are millions of EDH players out there who dont buy many packs. how can we hook them to rotation?"

[@blakey9869]

@@peewee130946 not really, they make some, but not nearly as much as pretty much any other format

[@MrWh33lz]

Keep in mind this whole set was executed the way it was with brawl in mind. Sadly wotc saw the format go stale long before this set was scheduled to be out

[@tonyw1983]

thought brawl died. but man.. if only there was a brand new online version of magic where brawl would be an instant hit in....

[@Volkbrecht]

You are correct. It's still dead. Also, not sure if 1v1 Brawl would live long in MTGA. Unless you spice it up with those special events it's just too easily solved.

[@danilooliveira6580]

2vs2 and 4vs is taking too long to show up on MTGA. farming ladder or cards in MTGA is only fun for some time, we need more fun game modes for people to play with friends.

[@itsvenom6301]

@@Volkbrecht they could add decent support for it with decent rewards either that or make it a rotating format and get rid of singleton

[@noahklein9536]

See I feel like what we need is a mtg nexus with like, all the cards, all the game modes, lots of work but SO worth it

[@dumpydumpy7514]

Volkbrecht Singleton is already popular on arena, I suspect brawl will find new life on arena someday soon. It is ideal for the Jank lovers and works well this the wild card economy.

[@jeffreyedwards6402]

You should have Cedric on more episodes. He might be my favorite guest you've had yet.

[@gregtheveggieburger9543]

Ewww, lame joke!

[@monarchgupta2712]

Mine is professor then the NBA player (how can I forget his name) then wedge or cedric

[@beans_n_egg9177]

The way he sang 'Thunderstruck' by AC/DC though 😂😂😂

[@ikeepsecrets6641]

Mine's definitely Kyle Hill

[@awesomeknowledge.awesomekn1411]

My favorite guests are kyle hill, cedric, the professer, wedge, ashlyn, and mel.

[@luliby2309]

Definitely was rooting for Cedric. He's ramping. He's summoning elves. He's playing big ramp things. That's the deck I'd love to be playing there.

[@luliby2309]

You just need to have as many kids as Zeus and name them all Cedric.

[@madhatten00]

I feel bad for emma. Expected her to win if she drew good cards. I guess she thought she could draw into something after blowing the field and getting a free 6 card draw. Congrats to cedric tho.

[@luliby2309]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes the Magic Gods don't want you to win.

[@juliendarnell3987]

Are you a Multani or Vorinclex Player?

[@luliby2309]

Sadly neither as I haven't played much Commander in a long time as my playgroup disbanded a while ago. So lately it's been more Arena (especially with a certain global thing happening).

[@JustinWilliams-nt1zk]

Please ask Cassius Marsh to be on game knights again, those episodes are my favorite

[@sang21nguyen]

yes

[@GrundysGames]

And he really needs to win a game....:)

[@Messala91]

When the Seahawks play at the Rams?

[@thepaperbullet6226]

Have him play fblthp.

[@jadel-harrakh7868]

@@GrundysGames he won with Kalia if I recall correctly.

[@Yakkosprite]

"Best part of the game coming up!" Ouuuuch...that burn...

[@cymbaline4384]

Hey Wotc. Put brawl in arena and I’ll play it

[@infinitcheez]

Yes please

[@KamLuWon]

Yes sir!!

[@the7A7dude]

Arena is a joke

[@infinitcheez]

@@the7A7dude whoa, hey.... a lot of people enjoy it, don't be so quick to diss it

[@the7A7dude]

@@infinitcheez I've lost so many games due to broken rules interactions, it's not even real magic

[@colinsipodmail2]

Always so stoked to see more Game Knights content. Kind of disappointed we didn't get to see a Feather deck though after it's been so hyped up.

[@BlaineTog]

Oh, I'm sure they'll get around to it at some point.

[@reachcole514]

That's because it's brawl.

[@jaceradford5599]

I was hoping for feather and atraxa in a EDH episode lol

[@lostingreenbay]

Rather see a proper feather deck, not some garbage neutered feather deck.

[@Kattywagon29]

Yeah, was hoping for that.

[@degreeskelvin3025]

*something happens* Jimmy: This is looking really bad for the rest of us

[@sunzet4640]

It's always bad for Jimmy 😂

[@gregtheveggieburger9543]

That's more like Josh. *Someone plays a land* Josh: This is NOT good.

[@THElarry27]

@@gregtheveggieburger9543 Jimmy: you guys are getting lands?

[@Beelzebubba1983]

I love Jimmy

[@jredmc1234]

Put brawl on MTG Arena or I will continue to complain into the void.

[@asiniel23216]

I don't think its possible. If I remember correctly Arena can't handle multiplayer because.... reasons.

[@Yusei1Fudo]

@@asiniel23216 1v1 Brawl is a thing.

[@dino-wer-kuh3498]

@@Yusei1Fudo you mean the format that got solved within a week to the point they had to emergency remove it from MTGO?

[@richlisonbee2620]

They would get more physical players if they did. The statement that they can't is just lazy and that they don't want to spend the money on updating their code.

[@exsimon]

@@dino-wer-kuh3498 yes, that one. We want it

[@alexandersowa4106]

Pushing Brawl so hard but not putting it where it's clearly meant for (Arena) still remains so baffling to me. Sure, Arena doesn't have multiplayer support, but the better question then is why doesn't it have multiplayer support, given that so many popular formats are multiplayer?

[@Crowen.]

Why does it not have Multiplayer support? I’m not a game designer, but that seems like something they could implement

[@alexandersowa4106]

@@Crowen. I agree they could, and I'm not to privy to why they didn't- I am also not a game designer. I feel like it would be a ton of work to implement, plus you'd have to ask 3 different players if they had responses sometimes- I still think they should though, since it's better to do it now than later when it's more work

[@JMSginoclave]

Even Magic Duels has/had 2-Headed Giant. Not having multiplayer considered beforehand is pretty baffling.

[@denomi39]

​@@ForeverLaxx they don't even need multiplayer support, 1v1 brawl would be fine. For now, we have to settle for Singleton, but it's just not the same.

[@LeBigsou]

Isn't the game still a beta, technically? Maybe they'll add it in the future

[@RobSomeone]

I wonder if Cassius Marsh is ever coming back? I love how chill he is and he'll just bring in that NFL money level cards.

[@Dracinard]

I'm sure he'll be back, he's been on more Game Knights than almost everybody else already (tied with Mel).

[@jensklingenmaier1745]

@@Dracinard i feel like i saw craig the most (*-*)

[@Dracinard]

@@jensklingenmaier1745 Ah, fair. Only by one episode, though!

[@tannerlawrence4287]

Your wish has been granted.

[@yugiohguy4543]

Game Knights: **Hits with hastey blightsteel** Also Game Knights: **he has ELVESSSSSS**

[@alexnumber24]

@@Uhavefriendss I guess it's just for the giggles

[@DogginsFroggins]

Honestly elfball is one of the scariest things out there.

[@tempestandacomputer6951]

"This is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals. Maybe ever." Nice one.

[@virtuelwind9357]

Was about to comment that, but you beat me to it

[@zachmcmillan4060]

"I have altered the deal. Pray i do not alter it further."😂😂😂

[@tempestandacomputer6951]

@@thrillhovanhouten253 He is quoting Donald Trump

[@bmcclure3atgatech]

Did anyone else notice that Josh's love of vedalken orrery cost him from forking Karns temporal sundering? 2 turns has to win you the game there

[@TuberTugger]

I think it was his unreasonable fear of Handy having a counter spell. She never played any so if he'd waited for Jimmy's end step, he could have flashed in just the walker and the snipe. Then yes, two turns with every spell dishing out 3... the game should have been a lock. That's fear for ya. Making your creatures unblockable except to black and artifact since the dawn of mtg.

[@wyattsmith6659]

Also, i am pretty sure that copying a legendary sorcery might have the legend rule apply and you would have to "not resolve" i guess one of them Nvm, just looked it up only applies to permanents

[@Beelzebubba1983]

Right!

[@LokNWykLeer]

56:25 Ooh, that untap step is beautiful, Emma!

[@MeganSmite]

Yeah my eyes went straight to that like "Ooo that looks good" lol

[@aaronhooker7588]

Well noted.

[@mellowwookiee7533]

orgasmic

[@rizzovg846]

i'm playing it at 0.25 speed and still don't understand it *edit : like seriously it's like some frames are missing, it's fucking me up

[@rhealastname266]

@@rizzovg846 hahaha! It's a real trick, trying learning it sometime. It isn't as hard as it looks and pulling it off makes you look damn cool. You can also learn to do it with your fingertips so it looks like the cards glide across the mat, it's beautiful.

[@kaisburg2450]

*Game Knights* The only show where we go to a full stop to explain the value of Llanowar elves two times.

[@johns832]

See I played a forest on turn 2 which is a turn higher than last turn. Meaning I get 2 mana this turn instead of 1. He played a forest on turn 2! That means he gets more mana! Nothing like 25 mins if gameplay 20 mins of ads and begging for money. Then filler crap for the rest

[@Crowen.]

Then dont watch the video. You’re not being forced to watch this, so go watch something that you dont need to complain about

[@friedpinnapple]

john s hey id rather gets lanowar elves get explained to me then wait a minute between each interaction.

[@JonaxII]

This is clearly aimed at introductory level players.

[@johns832]

@@friedpinnapple they could just edit out the down time instead of filling it with crap.

[@mayamay2059]

Everyone: Cedric is dangerous Jimmy: Am I jOkE tO yOu?

[@matthewwilson5578]

50% of comments: complaining about how brawl should be in arena me: when is extra turns

[@CamDMC123]

Came to the comments to say this

[@Kazz1187]

Facts

[@MrGorillafist]

Hells yeah

[@mamasboii9437]

OwO aren't you unique and quirky!

[@trumpetperson11]

These two guests you guys had have probably the most fun personalities of people you have had on the show yet. And they even seemed to mesh so well. Great episode.

[@AngryGwen]

I'm quite disappointed the no one played Nicol Bolas Dragon God as there Commander this game

[@renanceleste2253]

All their generals are from WAR, Bolas was one of the first cards we got to knew from WAR (though it was through a leak). Not having a Bolas deck might be a player choice not a lack of time

[@Squagglimole]

Maybe that's because playing Nicol Bolas as Commander requires as little thought as "breathing to stay alive". It's lame. They want to entertain, not always have that one overrated excuse for a planeswalker.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Again, I wanted to get into Brawl... but it rotates, so it's not happening.

[@restlessmosaic]

Eternal Brawl at eternalbrawl.wordpress.com is where the nonrotating version lives. Pick a Standard environment from history (banlist pre-Brawl is cards banned in Standard), build out of it, and you're good. The site is all the possible commanders and Scryfall searches for each. I've got a Brawl deck for each possible Standard (32).

[@ZaxploitationFilms]

Rotation is what draws me to Brawl

[@DarkEinherjar]

Nah... it's pointless if I have no friends who are also into the format. :/

[@restlessmosaic]

@@ZaxploitationFilms Yeah, I've liked the two-year (basically) restriction on cards. It gives more cards purpose, rather than going "is this Cyclonic Rift? No? Toss it." And because the cards were R&D tested together, it's less likely that truly busted things are happening. My INV/ODY/7 Cromat Brawl deck is loads of kicker Battlemages and Volvers and Tek and Draco types. Stuff that's not good enough for Commander but still loads of fun. That fun goes away when you expand the card pool out.

[@imasiontist653]

@@ZaxploitationFilms bruh. You can change cards whenever you want in commander brawl is just forced change

[@WhatsTheDifferenceTV]

Think Wizards has it backwards. Theyre trying to create brawl hype through paper to justify the cost to implement it into arena while they should be doing the opposite.

[@ianbyrne465]

Wizards has been kinda backwards in general when it comes to Arena. I think they're hoping to unseat Hearthstones by bringing in the paper-playing community

[@JohnSmith-ty9cr]

They've screwed up pretty much everything in regards to Brawl. Announce a new casual multiplayer format with zero store support and all we ever see officially is the MTGO 1vs1 meta where stupid Baral decks dominate? Yeah, that's sure to get people fired up /s

[@GROWLfactory]

The way Emma says "please don't lie to me" when she plays Kiora just defines me in a commander game.

[@marcusrankin9116]

Awesome vid! The tension was HIGH, thanks for showing Brawl some love, miss that format

[@MrMe2459]

do i care about brawl? no was this episode very entertaining because of the guests? yes

[@Sethsters]

Cedric and Emma were great guests. Please bring them back whenever you get the chance.

[@Beelzebubba1983]

I agree we love Cedric and Em

[@linkolncolon5959]

Great episode, guys! I really loved the guests and the format! Thanks so much for making these videos for the MTG community, we really do appreciate seeing such high quality gameplay videos.

[@deckmageccg3561]

BRAWL!!! Thank you for featuring this format for the episode!! I’ve already watched it twice!! Next to Commander it’s my favorite way to play MTG & how I’ve introduced two players to the world of Magic & Commander!! Man, I’d love to play this on MTG Arena!!

[@JonaxII]

Mistake at 54:50 Niv was grabbed from the Battlefield, so the moment the control effect ends, he goes back to Emma. He should only get exiled/commandzoned if he came into play under Jimmy's control, so there isn't an original controller to go back to. Edit: see comp rules 800.4a

[@HamburgerTime_]

Came in here to mention this too. Emma may have won by having another body on the field.

[@DerLhurgoyf]

Only dug through the comments to find someone mention this.

[@JmLyan]

That rule only applies to continous and temporary gain control effects (like mind control and act of treason mentioned in the examples for that rule). Entrancing Melody on the other hand is a one-shot effect, it happens once and then the game no longer acknowledges its existence. It is not something that can "end" at a later time.

[@JonaxII]

@@JmLyan that is not true, look at the rules notes for Melody.

[@JmLyan]

My apologies then. Still find it weird that the examples of rule 800.4a mentions every other type of gain control effect, but not the one-shot types, especially since its quite an obscure rules interaction that doesn't work how most would expect it to.

[@Noah-tg3vf]

I got hyped for a new Game Knights, but it's brawl. I'd love to see actual Commander gameplay on this channel again.

[@ElucidYT]

This is only the second episode of brawl in like a year. Chill out

[@christianbergeron2519]

When jimmy died, shouldn't niv-mizzet return under emma's control instead of the command zone ?

[@karkius]

"Gain control" effect should have ended before exiling anything controlled by Jimmy. You are correct.

[@valgeir80]

Yes sir.

[@scarlethart7857]

If it is a permanent that gave him control, then yes. If it is an instant or sorcery, then it goes to command.

[@rdckrson]

Arrennia that’s not correct. The effect is ended, and the creature returns to its owner’s control. It’s under rule 800.4a. Only permanents OWNED by the losing player are removed from the game, not permanents CONTROLLED by the losing player.

[@Xgya2000]

Sometimes, you just want to win in an old and tried way. By turning creatures sideways and pointing them at the opponent. Awesome game.

[@tarcisio9669]

Like the episode, dont usually see a brawl game but this was a good match. In overall the game was awesome considering to be a casual. Keep up the good work, love to see new videos and perhaps new matches in other formats.

[@TotallyRiffed]

Josh: “I’ve gotta watch out for her counterspell” Also Josh: * *casts his only counterspell* *

[@frago321]

Cedric: Draw, the best moment in Magic also Cedric: top decking for like forever xD

[@readytobebolder]

I loved seeing someone trans in such a big Magic channel. She said she was from Tolarian and I kinda really respect them now. The Magic community has welcome us trans people with open arms and to see you two, Josh and Jimmy, defend her in the comments and welcome her so easily is a huge relief. I admire you and this show so much (my friends and I now play commander all the time!) and to know you're so accepting of us? Too good. Thanks for all the work you put into this show. Thanks giving us such a wild, free experience. And thanks for making LGBT+ magic players like me and so many others feels welcome. You're amazing.

[@bladerz1191]

I would've played Nicol Bolas, Dragon God super friends.

[@clickonthedingo]

I play that in brawl myself, put the elderspell in and its a one turn win ;)

[@bladerz1191]

@@clickonthedingo Exactly.

[@Tuturial464]

There’s a problem. Nicol Bolas has no friends

[@tigerwarrior1787]

@@Tuturial464 You're right... he only has... dare I say it? Slaves... he has slaves... look at Lilliana... well, before she turned back.

[@somethingorother8794]

@@tigerwarrior1787 so Nicol bolas super slaves?

[@cinammonstyx7622]

You should invite Commander's Quarters onto the show.

[@nathanfriedman7367]

Mitch would destroy them with budget options

[@maxmartinez2032]

wayfarer's bauble is too much to handle

[@Oopsall]

Only took them a year, but they did it!

[@YouTuber20024]

Pretty sure Jimmy should have given NIV back and not put him in the command zone 800.4a. When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game, any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end, and all spells and abilities controlled by that player on the stack cease to exist. Then, if there are any objects still controlled by that player, those objects are exiled. This is not a state-based action. It happens as soon as the player leaves the game. If the player who left the game had priority at the time he or she left, priority passes to the next player in turn order who’s still in the game.

[@Divock]

and here i thought cedric was a fool for killing jimmy way to prove me wrong, nice plays

[@thedanielmaki]

Hey, wasn’t the Finale of revelation exiled when Jimmy targets it with Flood of Recollection at 44:09 ?

[@978night]

It should have been

[@alexyoung8628]

It got Spell Swindled

[@thewhiteknight3945]

Yeah, it was countered, so it never got exiled. Josh is the only one who cast it successfully

[@thedanielmaki]

Alex Young yep, I forgot it

[@megadog9305]

These two may be my favorite two guests. Both Emma and Cedric have a lot of charisma, and their decks were incredibly entertaining.

[@CountTheMedals]

I'm the number 1 brawl player in my state. I'm the only one who made a brawl deck.

[@Mordalon]

What is it?

[@espeonix.4992]

Victory by default!

[@xduskyx1357]

Honestly nobody plays ever

[@Mordalon]

@@xduskyx1357 What do you mean "honestly"? How do you know nobody plays ever?

[@Ecuavaro]

“Best part of the game coming up!” 18:40 had me dying

[@knightfromlordran]

i love how jimmy said theres over 30 planeswalkers excitedly and only 2 out of 4 players use planeswalkers as commanders

[@jackbell6023]

And how Jimmy was on Roalesk, but still, he has a point

[@ImSquiggs]

The Hostage Taker pirate stealing Treasure Map sums up everything I love about Commander. I think it was done because it was ideal, but whether or not it was the right move or the wrong move, it was the Commander move.

[@刀工匚乇匚口尺尺凵尸]

I LOVE these shows, i got into magic, but never got into CEDH, i think i will now because of how immensely fun it looks, i am 14 years old and have been playing since the M20 Prerelease events. I just asked my dad to let me become a patron and i am signing up as i am typing this comment. Keep up the amazing work, and keep the amazing content rolling 😁😁😁😁

[@008TheDen]

Cedric was such a fun guest! I hope you have him back.

[@Chalky2023]

I See ral. I See josh is playing it. I really hope josh just does an infinite copy loop to win the game...

[@misthelix617]

same

[@mcintyre0591]

Need 2 copies of expansion/explosion. Brawl is a singleton format

[@Jahsart23]

I think they avoid loop combos because it's such an underwhelming way to win in casual play. they also avoid spells that slow the game ie. Sensei's top, Lim Dul's Vault Pillow fort strategy and so on

[@Rol4nnd]

@@mcintyre0591 I think with -2 Ral, Doublecast and expansion you can still go infinite

[@IlluminatiHottie]

I doubt he put the cards in the deck and if he did he wouldn't go infinite on the show

[@christophermartin6778]

WE NEED JUSTIN PARNELL AND STEVEN GREEN ON THIS SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW FROM SCG

[@Mrwunderwaffles]

Yea John is boring as fuck

[@robintarket6844]

I would love that soooo much

[@enrif3099]

I love that you give brawl another shot. It also showcases more of the cards of the newer sets then a normal commander game would

[@tiagodutra6044]

Thanks for the video, I enjoy you guys’s games, I know you guys are getting a lot of flak, but I just enjoy watching you guys play!

[@reverendvile777]

I have never had so much fun watching tabletop magic as I have watching this channel. You guys rock!

[@aaronamaker9066]

Brawl is a sweet format. I love these episodes because it’s something that combines standard and commander my favorite formats! Great episode and thanks for making great content!

[@nomatyx5789]

How many of us forgot Brawl was a format until this came out?

[@kylesavage4525]

The majority i'd say

[@GBPortfolio]

I love that for the animation for River's Rebuke you masked out the phone so the water only covered the playmat. Small details like this are what makes this such a well put together show.

[@aidennoir597]

*goes to comments to comment on that tense clutch ending and overall exciting game *sees a bunch off people whining that it isn't commander Why am I always surprised by this?

[@NoGloveNoLove32]

At first I was disappointed they were playing Brawl but after watching the video kudos. Plus, it's free content that they work very hard to provide us, so let's be thankful even if you're disappointed it's not commander

[@lxvellxo]

Cedric reminds me so much of the man who taught me magic personality wise. It brings so much nostalgia. I was taught magic during war of the spark era by a retired CO officer, he had that same smile and laugh. Even the same sense of humor. His name was Wendell, such a wise man but I moved away and lost contact. I miss you, Wendell, and I wish I could play magic in Bogarts like we used to:(

[@gregzo2021]

so excited to watch this 1 hour long advertisement!

[@heliaxx]

Everyone: Lets have fun Josh: no

[@hollis756]

LRR said on one of their commander streams Josh is not someone that's fun to play with

[@nebula8851]

@@hollis756 Oh? How so?

[@jevry4307]

combo... i guess?

[@nilsjonsson4446]

Love that you’re playing brawl! Much more fun to see so many new cards rather than just another Commander game with new commanders.

[@guilhermesou0]

31:01 Farts. "This is really strange..."

[@twoneraps3352]

😂😂😂

[@deinemam7115]

that kayas wrath was the worst boardwipe my eyes ever witnessed

[@johnkon292]

ya as she did it i just thought: i hope she loses! it was just stupid

[@KostasTheDark]

Welcome to the worst board wipe in the history of recorded magic, folks.

[@The7thBobba]

great episode as always, you guys! So many awesome moments. You definitely need to bring back these two knights. stay frosty!

[@jawbraker999]

You guys should do an oathbreaker episode

[@isaacminer3384]

Kaya Walsh this please!

[@lukestange]

Amen!

[@JamesSamson487]

I honestly thought this would be the oathbreaker episode. After all, no better time for it.

[@PlutoDarknight]

That is, if WotC sponsors them to do one. Otherwise, not likely

[@friedpinnapple]

Twisted Fate maybe for extra turns? if that show isn’t dead....i hope not i liked those videos the decks seemed more powerful

[@jakubburian8874]

Just a quick rules call, the Mizzet should have returned under Emma's control after Jimmy died as stated in: 800.4a When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game and any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end. Then, if that player controlled any objects on the stack not represented by cards, those objects cease to exist. Then, if there are any objects still controlled by that player, those objects are exiled. This is not a state-based action. It happens as soon as the player leaves the game. If the player who left the game had priority at the time he or she left, priority passes to the next player in turn order who’s still in the game.

[@randomaether]

15:17 the way he pronounces besties wow, impresive

[@TeaHauss]

Dang, I did not expect that ending. That being said, woot woot! My favorite card from WotS representing!

[@YourCrazyOverlord]

What, Kiora?

[@WhiteWizard42]

@@YourCrazyOverlord I bet it's Teferi's Time Twist.

[@daviddeboer8793]

@@WhiteWizard42 Or Niv Mizzet?

[@brentcherrette5933]

“Everyone is playing a new planeswalker commander today.” New guest: Imma break the rules boii

[@Blademaster145]

jimmy didn't play a planeswalker friend

[@Hitmonchampion]

Came back to this after over a year. Still one of my favorite episodes, and I don't even play Brawl(because who does nowadays?) "I don't need saving.." That line still cracks me up. Cedric is the best lol

[@vilhelmelofsson7663]

At 54:55 I believe the Niv actually goes back under her control since a "Gain control" effect was used and that gain control part just ends. If anything else like a bribery was used it woumd exile since there was no "gain control" effect

[@papernes]

When a player leaves the game, all cards they own and control leave the game as well. Rather than Niv being exiled, it goes to the command zone since it is a commander.

[@vilhelmelofsson7663]

@@papernes I understand it going to the command zone but if you check out magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/multiplayer-rules-2004-07-12

[@vilhelmelofsson7663]

Then you can see that sine ot was a "Gain control" effect niv should just go back under her control and not to the command zone

[@papernes]

Vilhelm Elofsson I guess there was a rules change at some point then. Because it used to not matter how you had it, just everything you controlled left the game as well.

[@nivek1160]

Who from wizard's of the coast corrupted you to promote brawl????

[@Manance]

Gavin Verhey

[@DogginsFroggins]

This was actually awesome, I play commander all the time so it's good to get away from some format staples and see some standard shenanigans.

[@Queegon]

Niv-Mizzet returns to Emma's board when Jimmy leaves. The change control effect ceases to exist and Niv returns to last controller, if any, or is exiled, if there wasn't any before (in case of something like Bribery). Might have been a different game...

[@diamondaries9966]

I’m pretty sure that only happens if the control is due to an enchantment or other permanent

[@marpj6138]

Rule 800.4a say "every control effect end". So it should go back to her board

[@jimpassaro]

@@diamondaries9966 Gather Specimens, Bribery, Commandeer, and Hostage Taker are all exceptions, because they involve zone changes, but Entrancing Melody and Mass Manipulation are simple "control effects", which end when the player controlling the effect dies

[@JmLyan]

Thebluedragon98 is correct. Rule 800.4a applies to effects that grant you control for as long as the effect remains like mind control and act of treason. Entrancing Melody is a one-shot effect, not a continous or temporary one, and is therefore unafffect by that rule.

[@marpj6138]

@@JmLyan It still a control changing effect that can be ended. The gathere of the card itself point it out that in a multiplayer game the control will end. The fact that it has not a determined end dont change that the card has a previous controler and the game will check it. Again, its on the card gathering so it should not be a inssue

[@dinglehxpper8920]

The best part about this episode was the animation on the pupper on Jiang’s card...

[@jjkwak4838]

lot of people whining about brawl and downvoting the video not seeing how amazing the content and the production quality is...

[@NolalanD]

You know, when Jimmy did the too doodle oo Zelda noise I had to laugh! They make these games fun to watch.

[@jonathonvargas3476]

Devoting an hour of my life to watching brawl, I’m good.

[@leminhtam786]

After watching everything of Command Knights, and going back to these older episodes, I miss when they built decks like these instead of playing only with precons

[@MaNU7908]

If only we could play Brawl in MtgArena... hahaha that would be nice Your content, is so great all the time guys, youre awesome

[@shellder11]

Emma and Cedric were great guests! Great job and thanks for more great content.

[@spliffi869]

Haha that moment when Cedric is rooting for the coin to be in his favor made me laugh out loud. Nice round again and nice vid as always! ty for the quality content @ the command zone team

[@dylanbaley4289]

K brawl is cool, but when are we gonna see Oathbreaker 😍

[@lukestange]

ForeverLaxx coming from somebody who actually has played oathbreaker before, it's a ton of fun.

[@Jeffxm003]

Looks fun. If we get a game knights going on it, my friends might actually want to build it. Right now I'm the only one interested

[@stormcrow4202]

When Oathbreaker isn't a broken format with loose rules. So, probably never.

[@hanshertzman6796]

When is LSV coming to the show?

[@miltonsgames1479]

When they play legacy cube.

[@Boomspell]

Cedrics reaction when Star of Extinction was played is priceless XD Just yelling NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@JeremyHoffman]

Does this show really need to cut to five "confessional" interviews on every single unremarkable turn? Player 1's first turn: "Forest, Llanowar Elf." Player 2: "Wow! Okay. Alright. Geez!" Player 3: "Uh oh. Llanowar Elves, that's like the perfect turn one play." Player 4: "We're in a lot of trouble now. At this point, I'm like, we're in a lot of trouble now." Player 1: "I'm off to a really strong start. I'm gonna play spells that will let me play my spells! Love it!" Player 2 again: "If Player 1 plays spells with their spells, that could be really bad for us." Enough is enough, video editors! Let's get to turn 2 already!

[@TuberTugger]

I agree. They definitely need to implement a way for you to skip ahead in youtube videos. Maybe at the bottom of the video with some kind of bar type slider.

[@rhealastname266]

@@TuberTugger SAVAGE!

[@matthewjennings7645]

Niv can't grab tri+ colored cards like Zacama (your example in the intro). It could be used outside of narrow cEDH if it were though!

[@Tuturial464]

Matthew Jennings Niv Mizzet stragety is to ramp into big cards. That’s the first part of the deck. Which isn’t a bad idea

[@matthewjennings7645]

@@Tuturial464 I mean, I understand that ramp and card draw are good things, but a 2 colored cards 5 color deck is pretty awkward. A gold colored deck would already be restriction enough

[@ejphilla2300]

Jesus. Just play your own commander decks like you used to. We miss the old, genuine content.

[@maxpociask]

War of the spark is so dope. That's just the truth.

[@jamesbygames5336]

Brawl is a bad format though, just the truth

[@jamesbygames5336]

I do like war of the spark, this is indeed a good set

[@14Blackspirit]

That was an awesome episode btw. A lot of back and forth and everything could happen at any moment.

[@michaelmurray3766]

I think this was my favorite episode ever. Great demo of the new cards. Cedric and Emma had amazing plays. Josh had best mat ever. Jimmy. Well I don't know what Jimmy did in this episode.

[@lexluthor9279]

43:57 He is thinking: WTF are you doing? Thanks for asking, see also Telepathy´s flavor text (Ninth edition)

[@kirkmiller7721]

Cedric : " I will never financially recover from this"

[@omarnolan7205]

Not sure if I missed something, but shouldn't Jimmy's Finale of Rev have been exiled after the first cast, meaning he couldn't get it back with the flood of recollection?

[@somethingorother8794]

It has to resolve to exile itself

[@LifeAura123]

Wait are the card sound effects from the Shandalar MTG PC card game? They sound very similar

[@p.dephile2724]

Shoulda done Oathbreaker instead.

[@lracseroom8286]

or, you know, played fucking EDH.

[@stevenfraielli9869]

THIS COMMENT. THE TRUTH.

[@cooperzilkenat3220]

No! But that doesn’t encourage people to just get standard cards!

[@canismajor1186]

This instead of brawl. But EDH preferably.