Kevin Feige's X-Men Plan For Secret Wars AND Mutant Saga Explained!

[@CalebByRamen]

Spider-Man with the Symbiote and his perfect life trying to not give it up... would go SO HARD

[@thaddeusjohnson926]

an MCU Nightcrawler is gonna be so based😮‍💨🔥

[@UltimateSpider1385]

Adding the Fantastic Four to Mutant Saga is genius because of how powerful Franklin Richards would be in the MCU. But since the President has issued an order to hunt down anyone who isn't human but different, this will lead to the existence of Mutants, but also the bigotry, prejudice, and prosecution of Mutants for their abilities.

[@danknight84]

Remember that MCU president after secret invasion is no longer president. Now it's President Ross/Red hulk. That presidential order was no more.

[@UltimateSpider1385]

@danknight84 that order can still be issued if President Ross is impeached for his rampage as Red Hulk.

[@davidjones8043]

@@danknight84the very same Ross who was responsible for the Sokovia Accords… and you think he wouldn’t want a ban on mutants?! Like… um what??? Even if he has powers, he would ABSOLUTELY be behind something like that.

[@davidjones8043]

@@UltimateSpider1385he wouldn’t need to be impeached… he would be backing something like that. 100 times out of 10

[@BikiniLongjarhorn]

Fantastic Saga

[@Larry1077]

I'm not saying I'm right, and I know lots of folks won't agree with me, but sometimes I feel that an X-men universe is better off separate from an Avengers universe. Like, those two universes are too big and just get in each others way? I know in the comics it works, but you can get away with much more in the comics than you can on screen. I'm certainly excited to see what happens, but I feel it could get convoluted.

[@BusketRVA]

I agree with you on the "you can do so much more in comics than you can on screen" comment. It's very true as far as movies are concerned and even to an extent TV as well, but if Marvel were to actually do a combination TV show-into-Movie format they may actually be able to do great things with some great X-Men stories. If they ever plan on doing a Phoenix or Dark Phoenix Saga again, which I REALLY REALLY HOPE THEY DON'T, doing a TV to Movie format is the only way to tell that story in a satisfying and accurate way. Same is true with a Krakoa era or X-ecutioners song or Age of Apocalypse. Those stories need lost of room to build and breath and can't be done well in a movie or 2 or even 3

[@humanhilightreal]

What would be more interesting is if Doom uses her to destroy the Multiverse. And the M word she uses is not Mutants but "No More Multiverse". What a waybto create battleworld and also put a spin to the M word.

[@CalebByRamen]

THAT WOULD GO SO HARD

[@HennyBuBuProductions]

Didn’t even think of it, love this idea to pieces.

[@MichaelMartinYapNational]

I Love This

[@BikiniLongjarhorn]

No more disneyverse😢

[@cdogg46]

01:35 omg wish he'd stop reminding us who Nathaniel Richards is😤

[@ro-landocalrissian4633]

The X-Men among others should’ve been in the Avengers movies especially Infinity War!

[@whoschicken]

Sounds cool. idk how interested ill be in the mcu after secret wars. looking for an exit ill feel complete when i see toby, hugh and robert together on screen.

[@CalicoEvrywerigo]

I was thinking the 3 Sherlock Holmes Cumberbatch Dr. Strange RDJ Dr.Doom & Henry Cavill Dr.Essex

[@OctavianKaijage]

Mutant saga is coming

[@CalebByRamen]

i REALLY like how Josh explained how this may all go down. How the puzzle pieces are fitting together,

[@Rtd976]

My marvel timeline: 11/19/24 update -The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me. -All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself). -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) •[@-Agent Carter] 9. Avengers •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:1] •[%-Cloak and dagger S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:1] •[DS@-The Defenders] •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5] •[A@-AOS S1:E7] •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier •[A@-AOS S1:E17-22] 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1] 13. Iron man 3 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy •[A@-AOS S2:E1-19] 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S2:E20-22] •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man •[A@-AOS S3:E1-19] 18. Capt. America: civil war •[A@-AOS S3:E20-22] •[@-Inhumans saga] •[DS@-The Punisher S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:2] •[DS@-Daredevil S:3] •[DS@-The Punisher S:2] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3] 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange •[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-2(WIP)] •[%-Helstrom] 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Venom 3 ($) 57. Ms. Marvel 58. The marvels •[@-X-men 96] 59. X-men 97 •[%-Fox X-men saga] •[%-The new mutants] 60. Deadpool 61. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Fox Punisher] •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 62. Wolverine and Deadpool 63. Agatha all along 64. The eternals 65. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 66. Thunderbolts(€) -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…legion, the gifted, and the runaways. -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. -I added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter sagas to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps. Unreleased content as of 11/19/24: 1.Thunderbolts(€) 2.Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Fantastic 4 4Avengers: Doomsday 5.Avengers: Secret wars 6.Daredevil: born again 7.Ironheart 8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 9.Marvel zombies 10.Kraven 11.eyes of wakanda 12.Xmen97 S:2 13.What if… S:3 14.Wonder man 15.Spider-man Noir 16.Dr. Strange 3 17.Spider-man 4 18.The Midnight sons 19.Blade? €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.

[@ChillMonger]

I like the theory that MCU Wanda says it to create mutants. "No. More Mutants."

[@northworrier]

Why isn’t anyone talking about how the charges got dropped against johnathan Majors

[@LaaLooTv]

Thank you for just getting straight to the point & not making us skip 1:30 for you to finally talk about the topic😭🤣

[@TerrellAustin19941]

Awesome

[@TrevonBrown306]

Love this plan. And yes like you said , doomsday could potentially have judgement day / children’s crusade happening at the same time cuz of doom wouldn’t be so bad😂🔥🤌🏽

[@OctavianKaijage]

X-Men vs Avengers

[@NebulasLife]

Hopefully 5 years after Secret Wars.

[@hunterlarson2454]

My favorite is the constant emphasis on the “MY THEORY OF DR DOOM”

[@yusef3132]

With Midnight Sons, West Coast Avengers, Dark Avengers, Young Avengers, Avengers, Defenders, Eternals, Inhumans, Guardians of the Galaxy, Excalibur, Fantastic Four and all the X-Men related characters/teams, the MCU is going to be BANANAS. They will literally have enough content for a one prime time slot on Disney Plus every day of the week, plus a Saturday morning cartoon slot, not to mention all the related movies.... Sheesh...

[@daneo617]

I think the reason they changed Spiderman 4 from a street level film to a more multiversal film is to introduce Tom Hardys venom.

[@jm2621]

Let that venom go Do the correct venom No split personality situation The Symbiote (sym-be-unt) is more of a feeling than some creature talking to you

[@yusef3132]

I want Pheonix and Scarlet Witch to throw hands lol

[@declancanavan127]

Doom saved gambit in the end of d and w he’s the only sorcerer right now besides maybe dr strange that has the power to sling ring to the void and he would be looking for him most likely because dr strange would have no idea about who gambit is

[@jcarterla]

They should have never fired James Gunn.

[@garylazereyes1304]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@charliesmarts1]

What makes the timeline sacred is the absence of Mutants. Kang knew they were too powerful. He makes sure they don't exists and he has more control.

[@eastwood9170]

What if they play it out that the 616 has already gone through House of M, explaining why we've had no mutants thus far, and the 10005 universe has no Wanda, her and Doom are together somehow. I don't know enough for details but I think the idea is plausible

[@LJGrindewald]

Wanda's gonna probably be used to restore the universe/multiverse. Her character/abilities being used instead of the Beyonders. I don't think she'll do a no more mutants but they might do that later in an X Men story. I reckon prior to the sacred timeline the mutants were in the multiverse and 616 but Kang changed things, which left our universe without mutants and whatever happens after will be a restored one. I think from the remnants of the void from Loki and Deadpool 3 will be used for battle world and it'll become a full planet.

[@jb-dn5fy]

So I bet they are gonna introduce onslaught as the big baddie.....makes sense...xmen 97 was headed that way under the original writer. Last I heard, they were conducting rewrites...

[@othersideproductions2776]

Give me Onslaught

[@CalicoEvrywerigo]

0:37 #SinisterCavill 0:46

[@RicklessSanchez]

If Doctor Doom too much powerful then a god then Beyonder find many mutant people to stop Antagonist.

[@BenjiSavage-i8j]

F Paul from heavy spoilers

[@crizalessil579]

This is what i don't like: They keep busying to set up crossover stuff rather than just do the X-Men story that's focus in X-Men universe alone. This is why most of the character only show up for 10 seconds just like those cameos.

[@jonathanllewellyn27]

Me upvoting this video at 910 likes 😅

[@Kinglowlight]

I think he means we will see Fox Mutants.

[@wheresupp_3365]

Do you think we would see cable remember what he said in dp2

[@GameFactsSpecial]

Holee

[@trucoomccoo]

As always, Disney jumps the fucking gun smh doubt he's brought this up but Disney has recently talked about the importance of Nova going forward as things will be getting more cosmic after secret wars. We also have them talking about the importance of the mutants going forward. Both the cosmic and the mutant should have been fleshed out by the time we got to secret wars. Save for maybe the Annihilation wave, there isn't an event or story as important or big of scale as secret wars. So what is their endgame here once secret wars is done? Do they just make something up?

[@smb963]

Will no more mutants happen in Doomsday?

[@garylazereyes1304]

Say what!?

[@lukeluck1395]

But silver surfer is a woman

[@peytonabrams1820]

Its not noran rad its a different surfer

[@yusef3132]

Norin Radd's wife most likely

[@2ndstreetmarvel]

👀👀

[@tonycumberbatch7651]

The Sacred Timeline is Not a Singular Timeline from One Universe. If you don't understand then rewatch Loki. Earth-616 in the MCU already has a few Mutants, Namor.. Kamala Khan.. Wanda Maximoff and Billy Kapland. It also has a lot of Mutates, Spider-Man.. Hulk.. Steve Rogers/Captain America.. Bucky Barnes.. Monica Rambeau.. Red Guardian.. John Walker/U.S. Agentt.

[@Rtd976]

My marvel timeline: 11/19/24 update -The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me. -All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself). -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) •[@-Agent Carter] 9. Avengers •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:1] •[%-Cloak and dagger S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:1] •[DS@-The Defenders] •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5] •[A@-AOS S1:E7] •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier •[A@-AOS S1:E17-22] 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1] 13. Iron man 3 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy •[A@-AOS S2:E1-19] 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S2:E20-22] •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man •[A@-AOS S3:E1-19] 18. Capt. America: civil war •[A@-AOS S3:E20-22] •[@-Inhumans saga] •[DS@-The Punisher S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:2] •[DS@-Daredevil S:3] •[DS@-The Punisher S:2] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3] 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange •[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-2(WIP)] •[%-Helstrom] 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Venom 3 ($) 57. Ms. Marvel 58. The marvels •[@-X-men 96] 59. X-men 97 •[%-Fox X-men saga] •[%-The new mutants] 60. Deadpool 61. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Fox Punisher] •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 62. Wolverine and Deadpool 63. Agatha all along 64. The eternals 65. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 66. Thunderbolts(€) -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…legion, the gifted, and the runaways. -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. -I added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter sagas to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps. Unreleased content as of 11/19/24: 1.Thunderbolts(€) 2.Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Fantastic 4 4Avengers: Doomsday 5.Avengers: Secret wars 6.Daredevil: born again 7.Ironheart 8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 9.Marvel zombies 10.Kraven 11.eyes of wakanda 12.Xmen97 S:2 13.What if… S:3 14.Wonder man 15.Spider-man Noir 16.Dr. Strange 3 17.Spider-man 4 18.The Midnight sons 19.Blade? €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.

[@nneisler]

We’ll the ruined Kang so see who else they can ruin

[@coreyellison5558]

There are mutants that would see threw that false reality so they had to kept out

[@DorothyRushing-z5k]

brand new X men in the mcu in 2025 today now yes are no 😍😍😍😍😍

[@saberrattler1413]

Can we please get a reset on the X-Men. Enough of the awful nostalgia porn. That was the worst part of Wolverine & Deadpool. Just recast everyone. The Fox-men were awful for multiple reasons. Quit reusing them.

[@BBULLSHlT]

No, MORE mutants

[@horuslupecal9215]

I have mixed feelings about it. Maybe a soft-reboot could become something good. But there is also a posibility that disney will fuck it up again. My main problem with marvel is that they were so focused on agendas and politics in the last years that they seem to have forgotten how to write a good story. Just a comparison: Look at the Infinty Saga, how great that writing was. Almost every single movie lead us to the final confrontation of the Avengers and Thanoses "Black Order" You knew by the end of the first Avengers movie, that there is something dangerous in the ether. You only could get a small glimps at the face of terror and what his army is able to do in one day. This is what make writing great The Multiverse Saga is weak writing so far. You don't have a goal communitcated to the audience like it was in the Infinity Sage. All movies are kind of a loose web, which are not realy interacting together. And Yes the thing with Doomsday and Secret Wars sound great, but we are now twelve movies into the Multiverse Saga and each movie basically stands for it's own And the most of them are not even good - Far From Home: Was quite good, i liked the Jake Gyllenhaal version of Mystirio - Black Widow: Was good but to late in the cycle, to make sense - Shang-Chi: Fun movie, great fighting coreography, but same as widow to late. Introducing the Mandarin after Ironman died is stupid - The Eternals: Way to long. Boring accept the fighting scenes. - No Way Home: Awesome! one of my top three of that saga - Strage 2: Great actors with a shitty script. I lkie sam raimi movies but after switching writers and scripts, i think it was 3 times. Well, even Sam Raimi has his limits. - Thor 4: Piece of Shit, the worst movie i ever saw, and i watched Earaserhead, so i know bad movies. - Black Pather 2: was Ok until the fact that they fucked up Namor and making a joke of black panther, but still it was better then the first one. - Quantummania: Lag of creativity. why everything in the Quantumverse has to look human. It's so boring - Guardians 3: Second of the top three. Great movie. The Marvels: Come one, the storyline make no sense. The characters are stiff. The villian is stupid, and don' get me started with the musical planet. Not as bad as i thought, but still bad. Deadpool 3: The last of the top three. Amazing and fun movie. An this is what i mean. There is no straight storyline through the entire saga. Everything i know so far about the outcome in which the Multiverse will finally end i know from THIS CHANNEL. And this is pretty sad. The communication has to become much better, as it was prior. I want to know where the whole saga is leading to, and i want to get this information from the movies, not from press statements.

[@dustinbridges6831]

I feel the avengers will be done. We wont get an mcu with all the marvel characters together.

[@r3v3r3nt_4]

No, MORE Mutants.

[@gazwilliams-nc7jp]

Im genuinely shocked that they havnt retconned Xmen to XPeople There still time for them to ruin Xmen though i guess

[@CalebByRamen]

GROW UP

[@gazwilliams-nc7jp]

@CalebByRamen hahah what?

[@desmondwoods5203]

Stupid RDJ theory and if that bullshit happens I’m done with marvel and curse them

[@Starbaby99]

What was that u just repeated again 4 times on purpose 😆 😆

[@theblackpriestess]

I don’t like it. Just give us an x-men proper movie already. I don’t want to wait years for all these other movies before an x-men movie finally gets released.

[@anthonylove3666]

Clickbait. Just repeating old news to get views.

[@gregorybeale]

So basically so you, Daniel Rickman and all the other "scoopers" have NO IDEA what Marvel is doing. This is just you spinning off into nerdom. thanks...got it!

[@KC_sonic-on]

down for ALL OF THIS!!! tho my guess is they change Wanda's classic line to "NO! MORE MUTANTS" and its actually the Scarlet Witch who opens the multiverses to let the X-Men pour into MCU's 616 en masse!