Backstage DRAMAS Between Michael & Jermaine Jackson On the Victory Tour!! | the detail.

[@saffirechanning7286]

As a solo artist, Jermaine was NEVER as GREAT as his younger brother, Michael. Jermaine's PROBLEM was that he was always DISTRACTED by WOMEN and SEX instead of staying FOCUSED on his career. Michael, on the other hand, LIVED and BREATHED his career. He gave his ALL to his career----later for women and sex. I'm SURE that Michael ENJOYED himself with WOMEN sometimes, but his JOB came FIRST with him. AS the ULTIMATE PROFESSIONAL, Michael LIVED by the mantra: business before pleasure. Michael didn't let anyone or anything PREVENT him from goin' as FAR as he could in his solo career.

[@wandarichmond7643]

An Excellent Analogy! One I can definitely believe!! In fact, I think you're right on point!😉👍🏽

[@wolfgangsbrother6118]

Yeah, but we got like all of the Jacksons all equally

[@TheSherryBoops]

Michael worked hard his entire life. He deserved to be "THE KING OF POP".

[@Superobert67]

jajaja

[@theharshtruthoutthere]

@@Superobert67 Time it is to drop the PRIDE and pick up BIBLE - reading and praying aka asking wisdom and understandings. Time to search about FREEMASONRY, to see, who deceive, with what they deceive, why they deceive.

[@ghost_emre_a7710]

He is The King Of Pop

[@billyraynashiii2861]

00​@@Superobert67

[@umsoto100]

So true!

[@kymokoth]

Let's be clear....no one bought tickets to see Jermaine. It was the "Jacksons Victory Tour" but if you asked concert goers the next morning....they'd tell you they went to see MJ last night...

[@unathinkomo5858]

On the actual documentary when fans were asked they were like "we'd do just about anything to see Michael Jackson" every fan that was asked mentioned Michael. That's who everyone came to see definitely not Jermaine or anyone else😂

[@HairByPierre]

@@NoJeansBobthe word “like” is equivalent to “said” in the millennial generation

[@t.breeze8659]

There’s no need to disrespect Jermaine. He was a star too. The Jacksons, as a group, built a fan base from 1970 through 1984. The groups black fan base followed them closely and with that fan base, the group consistently sold out arenas before MJ dropped Off the Wall. They continued to sell out arena after the 1980 Triumph album and the 1981 Live Album. The success that came in 1983 (after Thriller dropped at the end of 82) brought new fans, younger fans and whiter fans and a larger international fan base. Also, for the record, MJ was closest to Jermaine and Janet.

[@unathinkomo5858]

@@NoJeansBob 🤣not you thinking you did something by saying this🤣

[@terrellgrant1570]

Facts 😂😂😂

[@ZadenZane]

I was 12 in 1984 and Michael Jackson was so big back then he was otherworldly. No one in the music business nowadays comes anywhere close to the fame and hype Michael Jackson generated.

[@dillionwon6587]

Michael is just way too huge as an artist honestly.

[@baan3197]

Girls and guys don't faint like they did to Michael Jackson :)

[@maratnahimana]

​@@baan3197Strong guys too with street credibility, borderline gangsters tearing up listening to Michael Jackson 😅

[@coryverses]

i was born in the middle of his peak, the effects of his huge stardom still felt the world over all these years later. we miss you mike, for sure.

[@peaceispriceless6051]

@nyclyricistsbkborn3295 MEGA Facts 🤣💯💯

[@eatforhappiness6150]

It's true that the Jackson 5 layed the foundation for Michael's success, but he was also the main reason for the success of the Jackson 5 due to his talent and extraordinary charisma. Without Michael the band wouldn't have come as far and it showed later on who the audience was really interested in.

[@kareemeverison]

True especially cause he was the youngest and fans love the cute little lead singer

[@johnwebb2442]

Facts.

[@HectorLopez-wj4ff]

Yes, but most groups have lead singers that make the band. Mick Jagger w/the Stones, Lionel Ritchie and Commodores, etc. Beyonce and Destiny Child.

[@eatforhappiness6150]

@@HectorLopez-wj4ff I'm reacting to the statement of the brothers that the foundation of Michael's success was layed by the group. My argument is that the group's success was because of Michael's appeal to the audience. Joseph saw that talent very early and quickly replaced Jermaine with Michael as the lead singer. That's when J5 was catapulted into stardom. All of the lead singers you mentioned were the reason of their band's success, because of their unique appeal. Therefore I believe that the brothers could express more appreciation for their brother's contribution to their own fame instead of diminishing him by saying that there would be no Michael Jackson without the Jackson 5.

[@AEpicHuman]

@igorputin2499come back when you pass the 5th grade grammar test

[@colleenluiz3678]

I think Jermaine has been jealous of Michael since they were kids and Michael replaced Jermaine as lead singer.

[@sapaodanenem]

Watching this was embarrassing. Jermaine's career was ridiculous. By the way, the Jacksons 5 would never have been successful if it weren't for Michael. The truth is that Michael carried his brothers and the entire family on his shoulders and everyone took advantage of his talent and success. Deal with it.

[@PensivePoet97]

Except Janet, she’s able to stand on her own even still today

[@sapaodanenem]

@@PensivePoet97 Oh yeah, of course! Just her. ❤️

[@tias.6675]

Um, Janet is ONLY famous because she's a Jackson. She never had the natural talent to make it in the industry if she were some ordinary girl. The same cannot be said for Jermaine, who is actually way more talented and can actually sing.

[@PensivePoet97]

@@tias.6675 If she was only famous due to her last name, she wouldn’t have had the longevity she does. None of her family were factors in any of her #1 hits or world tours.

[@sapaodanenem]

@@tias.6675 What? Ok... I already know it's you behind this fake profile, get over it Jermaine 😂

[@tylergoodman3560]

What a lot of people don't realize is the success of "Thriller" launched MJ into a level of super stardom that very few have reached. The "Victory" album and tour were great, but let's face facts, it's obvious who people wanted to see. It was also difficult for Jermaine and the rest of the Jacksons to be constantly compared to MJ as well, especially when you're trying to venture out on your own. Great video from the detail. Long live the king of pop. 🎉

[@thedetail.]

Thank you! Loved researching this!

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

I didn’t really get that Marlon was as pressed.

[@IvanDiaz-fl6ff]

A few people ? Nobody tripped that level of superstar of Michael Jackson Jesus Christ wasn’t even that famous it took him to be sacrificed after death to be work widely known like MJ

[@MrNokia8210]

Agreed. MJ WAS the group "Ain't nobody coming to see Randy (or those other guys" 😅

[@district12th]

totally agree! Michael was talented. : )

[@MonikaMoniaPL]

Happy 65 birthday Michael ❤❤❤

[@RKADES_OFFICIAL]

Yeah Happy 65 bday

[@WilliamBtwFN]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY THE ONE AND ONLY KING OF POP ROCK AND SOUL❤❤❤

[@ZadenZane]

Oh if only he could be here. And happy. He didn't seem particularly happy in the last years of his life, and understandably so...

[@SilmeonMusic]

Man they should’ve just fell back on the “it’s a family thing” angle and let MJ do his thing during that era making it a “Thriller” tour instead of a “Victory” tour. We would’ve gotten so much more from MJ creatively from the tour and maybe even getting an earlier album. At that point his success just usurped the industry, let alone the Jacksons.. They, mainly Jermaine, just wanted to eat off of the success of Thriller and that’s what really drove MJ away from the family it seems like..

[@dctalk1117]

I agree they should have Michael do his thing, Jermaine could have just did his own thing. I honestly don’t think Jermaine was pressed to do the tour at the time though. He was pretty hot on the charts at the time

[@matthewfoster1223]

Yeah, you are right, but I can remember a small window where there was a time where they “seemed” neck and neck. Didn’t last long though.

[@414riley]

Michael had actually did them a huge favor by recording the victory album and doing the tour. Thriller was still selling and he could’ve easily toured the world and demanded whatever price he wanted and venues would have no problem giving him what he wanted knowing every show would sell out. Us as fans got cheated out of a thriller tour and he tried to make it up to us with BAD (album) tour

[@BluePillTalka]

Agreed, a true Thriller tour would’ve been OUTRAGEOUS with Mike’s creativity

[@joycollins8595]

After the success of Thriller in 1982, Michael didn't owe his brothers anything and everything he did afterward was a gift.....Thriller catapulted Michael into super stardom that they could not compare to.....he blessed them with his presence with the Victory Tour and let it ALL go after that.....he STILL had mad love for his brothers but felt that he was carrying the load (which he was)......

[@Winnib7479]

Jermaine Jackson is talented but he isnt a consummate performer ( having supreme mastery or skill) . Michael Jackson was born with a beautiful voice, dance skills, captivating performance abilities, and of course good looks.

[@electricwarbaby1]

Jermaine Jackson played bass guitar, danced, and sanged at the same time. Very hard task to do also he was the band leader I. The beginning phase of the group.

[@andrewcrawford4635]

@@electricwarbaby1 Awesome point. Maybe some never heard any Jackson 5 songs to know this. 😏😆😉

[@dondamon4669]

Good looks? 😂

[@wandarichmond7643]

Yes! of course!!! ALL of the Jackson Brothers were very Handsome!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤​@@dondamon4669

[@nexxlevel4590]

Even in their youth when they first started I always felt Michael was 80% of the group. Jermaine was 10%, Jackie was 5%, and Marlon and Tito equaled 5% together. Michael was the main reason they were successful

[@Abandoned2377]

Marlon literally created Most of the choreography so your splits are completely wrong mike was 50 at most.

[@travishylton6976]

​@@Abandoned2377how when his dad keeps beating him for missing dance steps

[@Superobert67]

nooooooo..... Michael 50%

[@calebswrld714]

@@travishylton6976when he was like 12

[@Redeye2x20]

Nigga said Tito a 2.5%😂😂😂

[@mrm64]

...all I will say is the Destiny - Triumph eras were the best time for the Jacksons. If only Jermaine was with them during that time.

[@thedetail.]

Yes the rest seemed like a cash grab

[@VisuALL619]

Triumph was a masterpiece. Every song was incredible. Underrated to me and as good as Off the Wall.

[@wandarichmond7643]

I can only say you are Spot on!!! However, am kinda glad he wasn't apart of The JACKSONS!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ it may have altered what they had perfectly accomplished without him.Still like Jermaine's contribution to the Jackson 5!❤❤❤❤ I Can't say enough how much This Group and their music impacted my life!🎉

[@rick16323]

Michael drove himself...HARD. He had a goal and a determination that was unmatched by his brothers. He was mega-talented but his relentless drive and hard work made him the best in the business. He truly sacrificed himself. None of his brothers did that. Just look at how much better the Bad Tour was than the Victory Tour. It was all HIS. He made all the decisions. I did miss his brothers being on stage with him for the old songs but Bad gave us a taste of what a Thriller Tour could've been.

[@allendaniel7405]

Facts.

[@nimue4325]

They were all talented but as you said Michael was driven to succeed and worked hard to this end, even in his younger days when the brothers were out playing basketball while he was in the studios, trying to learn as much as he could. No way was he a " manufactured, over-hyped puppet" as the narrator questioned. I think on the contrary, the key to his massive fame was the fact that he was in control of his music and stage productions, and knew what he was about.

[@wandarichmond7643]

​​@@nimue4325You Are Spot On!😉👍🏽💯Michael was more driven sadly overall to his detriment .

[@A_20101_n]

I don't think the Jackson 5 would have been as successful without Michael as it was. His voice, movement, and energy were simply amazing, which his brothers didn't even come close to.

[@vickipotts5196]

God bless you all

[@johnwebb2442]

Exactly.

[@ericbernardo9161]

If they let tito as the lead singer.he could have been a superstar

[@cluman1]

You don't think the Jackson 5 would have been successful without Michael? Dumbest statement I've read today. Without Michael, there's no Jackson 5. It's the Jackson 4. Plus, Michael was the biggest thing in the world. Michael was the tour.

[@ericbernardo9161]

Tito could have been a superstar.if only given a chance and opportunity.his name tito sounds a superstar already.😁😅😄

[@GigglewithFelix321]

We miss you, Michael. 🥲

[@vickipotts5196]

😢😢😢😢

[@superpayaseria]

Also hit up my channel, I put out a some M.J. style tracks thx!

[@terikareviews2657]

Tremendously

[@Bluehime]

The main difference was Jermaine CHASED fame while Michael ATTRACTED fame.

[@mIKE.TURNup]

The reunion albums didn’t have any hit records but torture , state of shock and can you feel it . Mike was the meal ticket since they were kids.

[@jeremywashington7699]

Don't forget about heartbreak hotel

[@terikareviews2657]

So they did, in fact, have hits.

[@jeffreyarcher4352]

Don’t forget let me show you the way to go

[@preachercaine]

Jermaine was projecting, without the Jackson 5, he would not have had a singing career. Let's face it, while he had a few good tunes, his voice is very weak. He would not have had the opportunities he had without the Jackson name. Michael, however, had an incredible voice. He was instrumental in the Jackson 5's success and proved he had the talent to make it without them.

[@andrewcrawford4635]

If his voice was ‘very weak’ he wouldn’t have been the co-lead singer when they were known as the Jackson 5.

[@tias.6675]

Come on now. Jermaine has a very, very nice voice. He definitely had the potential to be successful on his own. Maybe not MJ level, but successful enough.

[@silence6813]

​@@tias.6675he did have some solo success but not that much

[@trulysadbread]

he has a nice voice, he just kinda nothing without his brothers :(

[@Sttephy30]

His voice was decent but no real artistry or star power imo

[@kel-melprevail8127]

Mike was way more popular than elvis

[@RihaPregels]

There were not exactly favorable circumstances around this tour. It is felt that Michael is tense and at times constrained. But the fact that Michael's repertoire and his songs made this show victorious, there is no doubt! Vivat, the king of pop music! Happy Birthday!

[@donjonesmusic860]

He tore that tour up

[@desmondred6460]

Idk what your talking about he was amazing on that tour

[@rowlaanbennett7296]

Man you might need to rewatch that tour! Some of his most iconic stage moves were created in that tour!

[@TRACEWORLD2]

Michael was Definitely not stiff. Did you see the show live? You cannot compare this show to any of his later Solo tours but Michael from the beginning to the end was always a perfectionist! VICTORY was EPIC! He grew into a Supernatural PHENOMENON after this tour❤❤❤

[@TheUltimateOpportunist]

Stiff? You couldn't be more wrong. Michael ate that!

[@hannaz4617]

Michael wanted to pursue his own musical and dance career. He created successfully "Thriller," "Bad," and "Dangerous." Jermaine and his brothers initially dismissed this as worthless and believed he was wasting his time. Michael was driven by a desire to bring his dreams to life and follow his instincts. He was determined to create and actualize his ideas, regardless of others' opinions about his work. Jermaine and his brothers recognized the immense talent of this mega star and couldn't help but feel jealous. They understood that without Michael, who had the genuine, true, and exclusive talent within the band, they couldn't launch successful solo careers. They held him responsible for their inability to establish solo careers or to make an income by continuing with the Jackson 5. Especially Jermaine was jealous, that's why Michael when he thanked his brothers, often said: "Including Jermaine". From the outset of Michael's life, this conditioning and conflict is pretty clear, often exploited by others for financial gain. He financially supported his father and his brothers for child support and various expenses. He served as the primary source of income for his brothers and his father. At one point, he was tired of constantly providing financial support to them. Michael had always been used as a cash cow for other people.

[@johnwebb2442]

True.

[@dillionwon6587]

No wonder he always calls jermaine name last when he makes appreciations back in the days. It shows Michael knew jermaine was jealous and against him.

[@hannaz4617]

@@dillionwon6587 Yes, that is true! The older brother and younger sibling syndrome is real!

[@rossfromsa]

You skipped over Off The Wall, a masterpiece he recorded at the age of 20.

[@hannaz4617]

@@rossfromsaThat is true! I agree with you completely! Thank you!

[@talia.pilates]

The difference between Michael and Jermaine was that this tour was holding Michael's skyrocketed career back. This tour confined Michael's career whereas it was Jermaine's highest point in his career....

[@dctalk1117]

I think this tour actually hurt Jermaines career. 1984 -1985 was huge for Jermaine he had several top hits on the US and international charts, and should have stayed on his own and reunited with his brothers much later

[@raygu1818]

​@@dctalk1117 Correct bro. Jermaine was still churning out hits such as Don't Take It Personal which I believe hit in 1987.

[@Caribbeana]

U can say that again!

[@iwillmusic6090]

@@raygu18181989

[@vanxl9]

How did it hold his career back? Thriller needed to have its own tour and it was ultimately the victory tour. That tour was the best i went to a show at the age of 9 at Dodger Stadium

[@MrFormula44]

Sad but true facts about Jermaine egocentric inflated personality believing he was as mega talented and the superstar as Michael which he wasn’t and his solo discography attests to that. “Success isn’t given, it’s EARNED”. Sorry Jermaine!

[@rowlaanbennett7296]

He felt that way because a lot of people don’t realize before Michael was old enough to join the group, Jermaine was the Lead/Star of the group! Even during the J5 days Jermaine was the one the girls screamed for . He just never had the ambition as Michael or star appeal

[@trulysadbread]

​@@rowlaanbennett7296yeah but i think the girls screamed for him only cause he had a handsome face, not much it...

[@TheZakiya]

​@@trulysadbreadAlthough MJ was the cute tiny lead singer with electrified stage persona, Jermaine was really the big hit in the J5, as he was the heartthrob cutie in the group. As the J5 core audience was more girls around Jermaine's age and up, most female fans were too old for Michael and Marlon, as they were little, so Jermaine and Jackie were the huge hits in the group that the ladies went crazy over, especially Jermaine. And Jermaine was the secondary lead singer, his voice was smooth and the perfect backing vehicle for Michael's verses. The ladies went CRAZY for Jermaine, and he really became sort of a David Cassidy heartthrob, like posters of him all over walls of girls bedroom and stuff like that. Michael got the attention because of his otherworldly vocals and soul at his very young age, Jermaine got the ladies lol

[@trulysadbread]

@@TheZakiya yeah no kiddin’ ahahha but yeah his best days were with Michael and other brothers

[@eatallnowsavenone4later342]

I heard somewhere that before Michael joined the group, Jermaine was the lead singer. When they found out how talented Mike was and he was placed in the band as another lead singer, I believe Jermaine was crushed and he never got over it.

[@djbabyfaceatl]

I believe that’s the root of Michael pain. Jermaine because jealous that one of his youngest brothers was the getting all the attention as well as the talent. He downplayed his stardom until he could no longer control it. I bet he beat up Michael when Joe thought they was asleep or something. So when he got old enough he left them and didn’t look back.

[@millalove_]

Yeah that's when Michael was a small child, the older brothers formed the group first then Marlon and Michael after Joe and Katherine saw that they had talent as well. That was the Gary Indiana days.

[@kmboss1606]

Jermaine was jealous lets be honest your brother is Michael Jackson what do you expect Also *Year In Review 2006???*

[@thedetail.]

Next week!

[@Nattaferg]

Jermaine's jealousy of Michael was well recorded in his song "Word to the Bad" after MJ released his Bad Album. He was always under Mike's shadow and he never got over it.

[@ericrhodes5174]

Jermaine was talented but he just didn't have that glow. Michael had the glow and it drove Jermaine crazy.

[@talia.pilates]

I wish Michael could tour in 1984 as the solo artist he already was. It would have been the Thriller tour! It probably would have been the most successful tour ever✨️✨️✨️ However Michael paid a huge personal price holding back his passion for touring with his siblings. He is an angel 🖤

[@kareemeverison]

He still did his solo works on victory tour too

[@tias.6675]

Would've loved to see a solo Thriller tour. The other brothers probably should've gotten their CDL licenses or something.

[@williamharris3635]

Lol

[@peaceispriceless6051]

@@tias.6675 😅😅😅 Not "CDL Licenses" 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@RocStarr913]

I don’t know if he really wanted to tour had it not been for The Jacksons. It’s been said that he really wanted to stop touring after the Triumph tour.

[@RakibErick]

Jealousy is a disease

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

Ya. I know that Michael’s album made him want to do his own thing, but that Jermaine, just seemed selfish and sneaky.

[@Diamond92826]

It was obvious that jermaine was jealous of michael's success and fame. Some of the comments he made affirmed that.

[@jrcanimation]

Jermane's hair is the worst thing I've seen in all my entire life hahahahahaa.

[@lovingmenow5633]

Jermaine’s music to me was never that good. I do believe that he was some what jealous of MJ… the success and fame that MJ had, Jermaine wanted. However, my head shaking moment came when Jermaine fathered a child with His brother’s wife?!

[@wandarichmond7643]

don't think wife. maybe Randy's "baby mama".

[@lovingmenow5633]

@@wandarichmond7643 could be -still gross

[@wandarichmond7643]

And you're absolutely correct! I agree wholeheartedly!

[@Kai-hk7tl]

The Jackson's haven't been the same without Michael.

[@kinglord7707]

They still got Janet as their Megastar of the family

[@damienlomax1946]

So why are they still tour since 2012 ?

[@TheUltimateOpportunist]

​@@damienlomax1946 the difference is that Michael would be able to sellout a stadium today. His brothers cant.

[@damienlomax1946]

@@TheUltimateOpportunist will they have been selling out since 2012 what y'all seem to don't understand is that people who grow up with the Jackson 5 love and respect the brothers they loved all of them also the Jackson 5 wasn't only all about Michael they all where celebrity legends and each one of them had fan favorites from Michael to Jermaines to Marlon to randy Tito and Jackie only MJ fans from the bad era and then you have the guilty MJ fans who are fans cause he died they are the ones who hate and despise the brothers and think that they are not worthy people need to stop comparing them to one person because they are not on Michaels leavel every one is different and every one has there own talent out here there was things that they can that Michael couldn't do but real fans die hard fans that grow up with j5 love and respect the brothers and they still touring to this day and all kinds of fans young old black and white come together and have a good time it's all positive vibes and environment and is a good tribute to Michael of all the people In the world to do tribute to him and keeping his legacy alive is where he started from and they helped created and built his platform and legacy why is it a crime that his brothers doing a tribute they start buy when other people do it it's ok Michael didn't started or was selfmade millionaire own his own with out God Joeseph Kathrine and Tito playing his fathers guitar there would not be no j5 the Jacksons and with out the j5/ Jacksons there wouldn't be not Michael solo or Janet career period

[@TheUltimateOpportunist]

@@damienlomax1946 no disrespect, but I ain't reading all of that. My point wasn't to insult the Jacksons, I was simply explaining the difference. Have a good day.

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

One can only wonder what could've been had Michael gone on a solo Thriller tour instead of a Victory Tour with his brothers. If I'm not mistaken, him not promoting Thriller via a tour due to the Victory Tour resulted in Purple Rain doing extremely well at the Grammys the following year...

[@andrewcrawford4635]

Then Michael should have went solo before he did the ‘Thriller’ album. Despite how successful both ‘Off The Wall’ and “Thriller” was, he was still a member of the Jacksons. I don’t think he could have done a solo tour until he actually went solo.

[@sunnydennison3302]

Nah this is incorrect. MJ stopped performing by 1985 b/c of being scared of over exposure. At least that's what the soundbyte is....

[@for-house-stark]

Thriller was still the biggest selling album of the year purple rain was released, despite it's phenomenonal sales. Thriller overshadowed purple rain in sales two years in a row, an album that was released three years ago, and the first album to become the biggest selling album in the US for two straight years

[@RocStarr913]

It’s been said that after the Triumph tour, he didn’t really wanted to tour.

[@IvanDiaz-fl6ff]

It’s unfortunate that he had to do the victory tour with his brothers it held him back from could’ve been the greatest tour of all time the thriller tour … just imagine

[@johnwebb2442]

Right.

[@itsjustindia92]

Jermaine saying there isn't any rivalry but then tried to take over the victory tour to launch his own solo career, make music videos that looked similar to Michael's and sing his parts on songs. I call bull

[@Ocean11126]

MJ had a clear version of his own music career

[@johnwebb2442]

Exactly.

[@thefonzkiss]

Jermaine is coming back after eight years. The rest of the world : “Who?”

[@Tiki-df4dc]

I always thought it was unfair to Michael to have to share his Thriller success with his brothers. The Victory Tour should’ve been his alone. No disrespect to the brothers, but during that era Michael’s star power was just too much for his brother’s to handle. We all know who the fans were there to see. I also read in the book “Moonwalk” that he was outvoted on a lot of things by his brothers that he wanted to do to make the tour even greater!

[@Malik-mw2ry]

See that's what you don't understand about families they have no problems with sharing

[@michaeljarreau3185]

Can you please do a documentary about how many employees worked for Michael when he was living at Neverland. What was the rules and regalations Michael had for his employees? How much did Michael's employees make while working for him. I would love to see that even though its a suggestion.

[@thedetail.]

Great video idea!

[@dillionwon6587]

I heard they were over 100 staffs though not really sure.

[@rodseller9936]

Michael had evolved beyond the Jackson five.

[@billyjackson6699]

Period 💯💯

[@greganderson1445]

Yep. It was over for the brothers after the Thriller album. It was Mike's time.

[@tiamarrow6366]

I understand the brothers wanting all of it to be just about them as a family, not about Michael and them as backup singers basically however…..between Michael and Jermaine, I can sense that Jermaine was a bit jealous of him even when the Jackson 5 first started because it was evident from a super young age that Michael could sing, dance, and had unpalatable stage presence….with Jermaine, he could sing a bit but he just didn’t have that presence within him.

[@electricwarbaby1]

Jermaine could play bass, along with multiple instruments, write, produce, dance and sing.

[@travishylton6976]

@@electricwarbaby1 yet never made anything worth listening too like prince

[@montaguespearman1644]

Michael was an entertainer. Jermaine, a talented singer! People like to be entertained ...

[@cliquesnvues]

Jermaine, having 2 kids by his brother's baby mama. Probably Caused a little tiny Rift in the family

[@Diamond92826]

I wish MJ did the Thriller Tour instead. He outgrew the Jacksons.

[@johnwebb2442]

Truth.

[@RocStarr913]

It’s been said he didn’t want to tour anymore after the Triumph tour.

[@ericbernardo9161]

Tito could have been a bigger superstar.😄😅😁

[@theoriginalthinker9199]

Jermaine's ego was unfortunately bigger than his talent.

[@whoiscrown]

Jermaine was never the star and he couldnt deal with it

[@PaulClipMaster]

Michael's brothers just didn't have the same level of talent. Janet Jackson is proof of this. She was frequently associated with Michael her entire musical career and it didn't seem to slow her down at all because she had the talent to make hit music and perform well. Michael's brothers just didn't have that level of talent. Simple as that.

[@XoXo475]

It’s no secret that as much as Jermaine loved his brother, he was insanely jealous, not to mention greedy too. I’m a huge Jackson’s fan and absolutely love a lot of Jermaine’s solo work. The allure of Michael’s popularity just unfortunately overshadowed much of the other brothers efforts because it was clearly obvious that MJ was the most talented. Period.

[@bradenharris8718]

Not only jealous and greedy but a terrible and selfish person - point blank period. I’m sorry any man who sleeps with and has children with his little brothers wife is beyond gross. And by all accounts, he hasn’t been a great father to ANY of his children, he has NEVER been faithful to any wife or girlfriend, he has taken SO MUCH money from his mother and he tried to get his hands on MJs money too and take it from his children and their mother! Truly an awful person.

[@stevewoodson4635]

Jermaine got natural voice Michael got natural energy talent

[@wandarichmond7643]

​@@stevewoodson4635He definitely has a natural voice aswell!❤💯👍🏽

[@winsbeyond8295]

That Victory album cover has always been interesting. From the dove on Randy's shoulder (Which is only on select versions of the album), to Michael being sort of in the background of the line up, and also that Tito has a Jheri Curl, which he never had in real life.

[@thedetail.]

Haha I’ve never noticed that

[@kaylenejantjes8113]

Even Michael having the white glove! It definitely gave “itching to stand out completely”.

[@frederickifill3107]

Damn I didn’t even notice that wow lol

[@larkt6693]

One of my favorite album covers. That & prince around the world in day covers were so good ❤

[@maximusprime3459]

Its a great album cover. I wish they could reissue a poster of it.

[@javiergalarraga7153]

God I cringed, the critics were definitely harsh.

[@andrewcrawford4635]

Agreed. Makes you wonder does some of those critics even know much about the music industry or just going by their personal thoughts.

[@RocStarr913]

The Victory album was good, but it wasn’t that good. Every Jackson has basically their own song and Michael purposely submitted subpar songs for it.

[@thedarksideoftheforce6658]

Jermaine is selfish, jealous and delusional saying without Jermaine Michael wouldn't be Michael. 😂

[@АлександрЕвдокимов-е9в]

Michael wrote in his book "Moonwalk" that he began to sing under the influence of Jermaine's singing.

[@rcy4513]

In the family, Michael was part of a whole. From a business perspective, The Jackson 5 is a beloved group, however, their day in the sun had past. It could not have escaped Jermaine's attention that Michael had become a star in his own right, and was the show's main attraction.

[@Lightskin-i1k]

I just think that his brothers should deserve more respect because im sick of his brothers not earning respect nor singing not one song it's always "MICHAEL JACKSON AND THE JACKSON 5" OR " MICHAEL JACKSON AND THE JACKSONS" like wth no wonder Jermaine is or not jealous of mj idk like each and every song u heard i never seen not one of the brothers sing not ONE song it's always Michael, Michael, Michael like WTF now i see why Janet need her spotlight its not far like yall are the JACKSON 5 OR THE JACKSONS like bro let Michael shut the hell up for once and sing something for example victory tour Michael never perform with his on Jermaine melody but only ONE SONG that's BULLSHIT Like at least let your BROTHERS SHINE yall are the JACKSONS FOR A REASON. Dang what have Joseph been thinking.

[@wandarichmond7643]

YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!!💯❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️

[@colossus112785]

Around the Victory era u can see Michael's skin tone was drastically changing

[@nysic1234]

Off the wall era already and.. jermaine is the darkest of the family. Even in the J5 jermaine was darker then Michael. Michael and Marlon are the lightest of the brothers. Marlon even had brown hair instead of dark.

[@maximeajavon]

It’s only makeup. His skin was still dark underneath. Look at bad tour rehearsal pictures.

[@colossus112785]

@@nysic1234 Well Michael said one time growing Joe often made fun saying "oh you too dark to be my child you didn't get it from me" and on a side note I always looked at Jackie as being the darkest outta all of em

[@nysic1234]

@@colossus112785 true. Hmm I always thought Jermaine was the darkest. Latoya (even as kid) and marlon are the lightest

[@tyroneaugustine229]

Just pancake make up due to lupus and vitiligo he started having Rosy cheeks in 1984

[@eltonjones1990]

Jermaine Wanted to Be like Michael Jackson so bad it was killing him, and Michael Jackson is the best Singer & Dancer of all time, and Michael Jackson is better by his self, and no one can compare to Michael Jackson

[@Татьяна0806]

Все Джексоны талантливы!!Но Майкл-гениальный!!С ним никто не сравнится!!

[@kinglord7707]

I heard for years Papa Joe was very pissed off at Michael for calling off the Victory tour saying it's their very last tour as brothers.He made Michaels life a living hell that's when MJ dad to move out from their Hayenhurst Mansion in Encino

[@tias.6675]

He left several years later, though. I don't even think Joe really lived there. He was too busy entertaining his secret family.

[@okongift6364]

We miss you Michael Jackson

[@angellovellie4866]

Michael didn't like doing tours

[@GirlfriendNinja]

I went to that concert in Atlanta. It was really good. We had seats on the field at the Atlanta Stadium and were so close we could see the sweat beads on their faces.

[@rareflower72]

The people around Michael did this. To split the brothers. Michael was pretty much the main singer. With his gift and talent, Michael solo career was inevitable. But people around him was in his ear and help to separate them

[@DarkandlovelyLovely]

Jermaine was jealous, let’s just call it like it is. I know he loved his little brotha to death and he still do, but he was wrong. Michael was so sweet ❤

[@robertcurington3657]

My thing is… why didn’t they do a “Thriller” Tour with Michael as the headliner and the brothers as opening acts. Idk why the dad and jermaine were such haters smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@robertcurington3657]

They really stole a check off Michael. That weak ass victory album wasted michaels time and I’m upset that he didn’t stand up for himself more.

[@daanfischer5452]

Sorry to say this but Jermaine was not any close to the succes of his brother, he was jist very jealous, trying to take credit for everything

[@RahimWhitehead]

MJ would probably still be alive if it wasn't for his family. He didn't need them but threw his family a bone going on the tour and Pepsi commercial that was the start of his demise...

[@Ray-c1r]

Michael said I'm done with this bs lol

[@TRACEWORLD2]

Michael sacrificed a THRILLER tour for this Victory tour. And Jermaine is the one that left the group 1st 🙄 He had success, but if he had success on the level of Michael, these words would never ever come out of his mouth .Enough said!

[@RocStarr913]

It’s been said he didn’t really want to tour anymore after the Triumph tour.

[@TRACEWORLD2]

@@RocStarr913 nah not that early--he only wanted away from Dad and brothers

[@phillipwattsjr.4714]

After the Motown25 special, Motown and Epic Records pushed them to do the Victory album and tour. None of them were on the same page in the Victory album like they were on past albums, thus the reason they never performed any of the songs off of it during the tour.

[@edreid7872]

Jermaine cemented his jealousy with his diss track Word to the Badd.. A weak attempt to bad mouth Michael and his success.. Along with LaToya’s tell-all…an embarrassment for both of them..

[@gregorybush3224]

Michael didn't need the 💰, but his brothers did. They knew there was no tour without him and so did he. Even though it was called The Victory Tour, no songs from that album were played. The songs performed were from the early J5 days and Michael's solo albums. That was part of the compromise between Michael and his brothers. Michael got fed up with the turmoil among the group that he ended the tour before it's completion. There was supposed to be an American along with European tour portion.

[@Rashy225]

Jermaine was so delusional

[@BlakeCH24]

Can't be a rivalry when 1 of the 2 sides is not in the same atmosphere as the other. 🙄

[@camirrahcharles2493]

Regardless of the feud, they are still the Jackson's and they wii forever be that.

[@ladylucile15]

I love The Jackson 5 as much as a Micheal Jackson.. love seeing the brothers together

[@pacboy24]

Damn! So we missed out on a “thriller tour!” That woulda been HISTORIC! him doing the full beat it dance, Billie Jean might have been the same, an actual thriller! OMG!

[@nitelillie]

You can also lowkey see Michael practicing for his solo career/peformance/tour on stage lol he knew. His family knew. Now we all know.

[@bruceharrison8160]

Mike was the Jackson 5!

[@rollerball1200]

Hey, Good news articles sell too. Jermaine and Michael loved each other. Respect!

[@Shamanicjourney7]

Very nice. I didn’t know Jermaine had a house in Brentwood; very elaborate. I think it was a reach for accusing Jermaine about wanting a comparison to Michael when performing J5 hits on his 1986 tour. He was also a soloist in the group. Performing those songs are just his appreciation and not forgetting where he started his professional career.

[@lawrenceworrell8474]

The jacksons are a multi-talented family unit that just happened to have a dynamic lead singer who would become larger than life….Everybody shined in the group which is the reason why we all know their names….Every fan had a favorite Jackson and because MJ was the lead singer, HE WAS EVERYBODY’S FAVORITE….Jermaine achieved his own solo major Platinum worldwide success, even Marlon had a top 5 record with “Don’t Go” while Jackie & Randy released solo albums that weren’t big successes but were critically acclaimed true to the testament of their talent The truth is that NO ONE REMAINS HOT FOREVER so the best thing for any artist to do is to celebrate all wins and be settled in your status as a legend ! we all know why MJ’s solo career suffered right after the “Dangerous” era MJ thought that “Invincible” was gonna outsell Thriller….Not to kill anyone’s ambition but no real person was telling MJ that the industry was changing. The best thing he should’ve did in those down moments was do a world reunion tour or MTV unplugged with all 6 of his brothers which their now legendary last performance for MJ’s 30th anniversary was the best part of that show and then do one more tour for himself cause he clearly said: HE HATED TOURING so the whole point of the THIS IS IT tour was just that…and then, he died Janet just revealed in her documentary that there were plans for a FAMILY tour with everyone but the powers that be on MJ’s end did everything to stop it which only proves there was a agenda

[@wandarichmond7643]

Thank You!!!!! AND SQUARLY PUT RIGHT WHERE IT NEED TO BE!!!!! It's SO SAD . I DONT MICHAEL WOULDVE HE LISTENED TO THE BEST ADVICE HE COULD EVA HVE GOTTEN!! THIS IS TRULY IT!!!! THANK YOU!!❤HAD LISTENED AND SETTLED DOWN WITH WHAT HE HAD ALREADY BRILLIANTLY ACCOMPLISHED HE'D BE ALIVE TODAY!! I FEEL ANYWAY..

[@iwillmusic6090]

All Jermaine had to do was just be himself and only compete with himself to become a better artist FOR HIMSELF. He tried to be on the same level as Michael and he didn’t need to be. Jermaine was good in his own right…he just did too much and played himself.

[@RocStarr913]

Jermaine lacked distinction and he knew it.

[@Wondwind]

All of the Jacksons are cringe on some level with Janet being the least and Jermaine maxing out on cringe.

[@yetyet7484]

Germaine was clearly trying to use Michael to get his career of the floor and wanted to use Michael. Then trying to diminish Michaels talents and says well we are all the same instead of just giving Michael credit.

[@gladysmorgan5653]

I believe their Success/ Fame went to their heads. Then they began to Realize that Michael didn't Need them and He was the Famous One.,, NOT Them !!! To Me they're Leeches. Jermaine is too much.

[@talia.pilates]

They are both ( not equally though ) talented but Michael has a magical aura that Jermaine doesn't!! It's something that you are born with!! It cannot be faked 😉

[@johnwebb2442]

Tell em.

[@wandarichmond7643]

Thank You For Sayin IT!! My Mother Always says it. Her Words" You Have to Be Born With It" ENOUGH Said!!😊

[@talia.pilates]

@@wandarichmond7643 Thank you 🌻

[@kjam4236]

Wow I knew Jermaine had some issues but wow I didn't know it was this bad over confidence,women and his diva like attitude brought him down plus the fact he was always in Michael's shadow!

[@EYEAMJAY82]

Joe really pushed for this tour because he thought he could relaunch the Jacksons. But all that really happened is we were robbed of a true Thriller world tour. Jermaine was a good artist buy he wasn't MJ. Without MJ they were just another group. MJ loved his bothers but his artistic hunger outweighed that love

[@RocStarr913]

It’s been said Michael really didn’t want to tour anymore after the Triumph tour.

[@AidenHilton981]

I don't think that would've happened. He didn't even perform the song in any victory shows.

[@nvm9040]

Thriller and the victory tour were just highlights in Mj’s popularity in the 80’s

[@johnwebb2442]

Facts.

[@Shamanicjourney7]

I liked the victory tour. They gave a great performance.

[@Swat-ed5bt]

Michael forever ❤️

[@Blackrain7920]

MJ made the group period

[@worldztune852]

Michael rejoining them after Thriller was a horrible idea.

[@riorange2083]

The Victory tour feels so unnatural to watch, it just feels more like a thriller tour featuring the other Jacksons, Micheal singing lead on 90% of the songs and commanding the stage with his electrifying moves.

[@tangeladavis4755]

Jermaine jackson is not Micheal jackson no matter how hard he tried

[@love2all837]

Including Jermaine 😂😂😂😂

[@interne_deleted_videos]

you are the best channel of michaek jackson life detail

[@thedetail.]

Thank you!

[@BenLiteral]

Michael did not need the Victory Tour. It needed him, and everyone knew it. Moreover, Victory was their weakest album since Goin' Places, and I think we all know it's because of a certain gloved individual's lack of input. Jermaine just always gives me "sour grapes" vibes because it wasn't him.

[@jayceezinner3503]

Idk any song by jermaine 😂😂😂

[@reycarmesi1969]

Buenísimo el canal, la verdad la gira Victory fue exitosa porque era un Thriller Tour, ver a Michael cantando esas canciones en vivo por primera vez era lo atractivo (aún espero alguna vez publiquen un blu ray de esa gira). No sabía que Jermaine entre 1985 llevó una vida de lujos pero siempre se lo notó con mucho recelo a su hermano.

[@Pamela-zy7vc]

*Michael carried the whole clan*

[@koolkid1507]

Definitely did they were so jealous of him they wanted to be in his shoes so bad