THIS Is Why Men's Issues Are IGNORED… | Konstantin Kisin

[@TheDiaryOfACEOClips]

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[@yamilsenior]

Yes, I've been trying to draw attention and speak up for men's issues for about a year and it mostly goes ignored, mocked, or straight up criticized and yelled at.

[@alexbishop84]

What issues are you raising? Or what change are you asking for?

[@Guildofarcanelore]

Feminism has created the narrative that men don’t have problems, men ARE the problem. That is our problem, not just that no one cares.

[@jonahtwhale1779]

Gynocentrism eg preventing violence against women gets huge programs but is at 50% or less the level of violence against men! Make that make sense with an equality mindset?

[@haraldbredsdorff2699]

The worst part, is even if you talk to somebody who accept the argument. Even if you talk to family, you can bring up problems, explain how this is a problem more for men than woman. Then after a week or 2, they will forget everything, and reset to think woman are suppressed and men just need to toughen up.

[@robinthrush9672]

I had my job threatened when speaking up about the disparate freshmen programs between boys and girls re: alcohol use and relations and gender shaming.

[@simmo_25]

Well done for having guests like Konstantin on your channel Steven, he talks a lot of sense on range of issues. Mens issues (they are human too and also have emotional issues lets not forget) do tend to be secondary, particularly in areas of domestic abuse, child custody and no fault divorce. As someone who was verbally, emotionally and on several occasions physically abused by a former girlfriend I didnt find society really cared about my plight in the way it would have been received if it had been the other way around. I was never looking for sympathy just an outlet to voice my struggles, people (usually women) are often referred to as "survivors" after such toxic relationships. I dont see myself as a "survivor" but someone who had an unhealthy tolerance level towards accepting toxic behaviour, since corrected through psychotherapy and improvements to self esteem. Toxic and abusive characteristics are not reserved solely for men, we need to be more mindful of that if we are to better understand eachother. I am pleased to say, after education of the "hall marks" of coercive/ controlling / abusive behaviour and developing self esteem, forming boundaries etc that I am now in a much much healthier relationship with mutual respect being the foundation on which it is built.

[@TomNoles007]

Good for you mate, I'm glad you found a good person to share your life with. All the best 👍

[@EdwinRichard-e9m]

Some good nuggets here, but something big has to change or men's problems won't get fixed: The misandry MUST stop. Misogyny is generally not accepted in our society but misandry is and it's often celebrated. That's not the way to do business. Men and women need to work together, yes, but not like this. The tolerance for misandry must go. No more excuses for it and no more telling men to just “man up” in response to being psychologically abused. Surely that's a reasonable request. Men, I have course of action to suggest: start calling out any misandry you see and start filing complaints to organizations that display it. Don't just shrug it off, let them know you're unimpressed. Keep the self improvement, avoid victimhood thinking but we have to stand up for ourselves.

[@heretodaygonetomaui3567]

There are many pretenders within men's rights.

[@rangerwhite5165]

This needs addressed in the divorce courts. I'm seeing friends being absolutely ruined in divorce settlements. The system is completely against men. Marriage now is potential financial ruin.

[@Danster87]

After a false allegation I had to spend almost $70k in legal fees to be able to have access to my children, that's not even including the divorce. Something is very wrong with that

[@Sweetpea-2023]

This is not exclusive to men. I was the breadwinner as a woman in my marriage and he tried to take me to the cleaners, because he didn’t want to work. The lawyers make money, every one else loses

[@Danster87]

@@Sweetpea-2023 I agree, a big part of our problem was the lawyers pouring gas on the fire. I would say the false allegation thing is probably more specific to men than women but otherwise I agree with your points

[@Sweetpea-2023]

@@Danster87 I think there should be criminal penalties for making false accusations, I know that there is civil remedies such as defamation of character and slander. Personally, I was dealing with a full-blown sociopath and many of these women exhibit narcissistic traits if they’re willing to make false accusations for financial gain or to alienate the other parent. My ex tried that nonsense, but I was smart enough to start recording all of our conversations.

[@mashae.1066]

With a lot of women earning more than men now, I have a lot of female friends who are constantly being shaken down for child support and alimony by men.

[@thegrumpygeordie9007]

Its interesting. I had a disagreement match with me ex once, in front of a few people. Everyone there was generally of the opinion that in the break up that I was agrieved party (she left me for someone) and I left the room before I lost my temper. Two people went to comfort her but no one came out to see if I was ok (I wasn't). Also she had done a lot of shouting, but it was me who was cautioned when it looked like I would start shouting. And I'm only saying this to highlight the difference in how people are treated not because I wanted pity.

[@agauld3212]

One of the opening sentences. No one is going to save you. Absolutely true. You need to be strong enough to save yourself

[@rayzerot]

There are people that care about men's issues. We're just not allowed to *talk* about it

[@eamcbmsc]

People talk about men’s issues all the time. There are at least 5 videos on this channel this year about men’s issues. If you want to see more, be the change you want to see.

[@alexbishop84]

@@eamcbmscI know! I’m CONSTANTLY being shown podcasts of boring men complaining about mens issues that are women’s fault. I only wish it wasn’t being talked about so much 🙄

[@Photik]

Dr K doesn't blame women in his episode, but rather yet society and social media. ​@@alexbishop84

[@KathySierraVideo]

@@rayzerot right. JP talks about it non-stop. He has 8 million subscribers on KZbin and a top 100 channel. I’d say most of the top “personal development” channels are ALL feeling VERY “allowed” to talk about it, and they do. All The Time. These are folks with huge platforms, high influence, high status. I’ve no idea where the “not allowed to talk about it” comes from. It’s almost daily in my feeds. Even my favorite farming channel 🤦🏼‍♀️ .

[@kw6382]

Spot-on. And while I don't wan to seem a grammar school teacher with a too-tight hair bun, replacing 'that' with 'who' helps to empower people.

[@sardonictendencies8605]

When women misbehave society forgives them and comforts them. Male victims of female abuse are ignored, mocked or assumed to have done something to deserve the treatment. Its utterly vile. It is heartening to see a few women You Tube creators speaking out men these days at least. I hope it catches on.

[@12Sanguine]

Just wanted to pitch in to this comment section and say, there are women who want best for men. I love my husband, my father, my brother and my two nephews, and that extends to my care for all men's issues. This is not a dividing issue.

[@zakwolfered587]

The men in ur life are very lucky

[@kohtalainenalias]

It's refreshing to hear something like that. Most of the society don't give a **** about men

[@raleighsmalls4653]

Boy, is she living in a fantasy.

[@Martin-rh7mf]

When it comes to discord between parents & the inescapable dominance that mothers tend to have in situations where they take full advantage of knowing how the ignorant authorities operate against fathers, this guy's powerfully articulated commonsense approach should be incorporated in order to redress the present poisonous system that puts overly confident narcissistic women on a pedestal ~ whilst condemning fathers to a place of deliberate pain & persecution

[@brayheart-b1n]

This video nails the symptoms but misses the real problem. Sure, self-improvement is cool, but it's not gonna fix the systemic BS causing all this. High suicide rates, loneliness, depression - these aren't just personal failings. We're dealing with a rigged economic system, outdated gender roles, and a society that treats young men as disposable. Telling guys to 'work harder' or 'find a mentor' is just slapping a Band-Aid on a bullet wound. How about we talk about fixing the actual issues, such as: -A cutthroat job market that pits everyone against each other -Ridiculous housing costs that make independence nearly impossible -An education system that leaves many in crippling debt -Toxic expectations of masculinity that mess with mental health -Lack of affordable mental health care These are the real problems we need to tackle. Just saying.

[@alexbishop84]

Wow. I think this is the first comment from a guy on here that raises real issues men are facing, without putting it in some context of blaming women. This is the kind of genuine discussion of men’s problems I can get behind compared to guys just saying women get too much in divorces and should appreciate them more.

[@Joshua-eo5hr]

​@@alexbishop84 can u just be quiet ur not helping

[@brianmeen2158]

Yes but there have always been these larger systemic issues but previous generations didn’t obsess about it online and let it drag their spirits down. Gen z seems to want to wallow in self pity and give up . Many would feel much better if they spent less time online .. they watch way too much doomer content

[@cassandradevine4752]

Yes great point. Too often the answer is either 'get men to talk about their feelings' from the left or 'male your bed and do better' from the right. When actually there are specific policies we can and should look at like having a better apprenticeship and vocational training model to help more men and people in general get a good job.

[@chrisx8902]

@@alexbishop84 Appreciating men? The audacity!

[@EugeneMurray-z1b]

In the past Things were worse for everyone

[@latetotheparty184]

Thank you, in the past women and men BOTH had hard lives and the women as usual were shown extra care and consideration, eg women and children first on a sinking ship, Men have always had it worse eg fighting wars, dying in coal mines, fishing boats etc.

[@KC-mj6eu]

Great conversation

[@murraywebster362]

Thanks Konstantin

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

I have always been in awe of my mum's emotional intuition. She could enter a room full of people and immediately work out who was struggling with life. By the end of the night she'd have helped them work through their problems. I've never seen anything like it.

[@ThomasMullaly-do9lz]

All we need now is Fight Club to be made into a musical.

[@corpseobscur]

Cooperation and working together is the goal as far as I'm concerned. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

[@jonahtwhale1779]

When are femunists going to cooperate with men? It is all about taking from men and giving to women! Eg equal job opportunities - means men sharing what they have built but women not providing an equal number of oppprtunities for men to share!

[@FergusWalsh-dz7mq]

Men and women are NOT and never will be the same. We are different and as such we compliment each other. As Konstantin said we fill in each others shortfalls.

[@Scriptorsilentum]

i agree. i also think that same-sex marriage is not only possible but should be permitted with the force of law behind it. that being said, i think gay marriage is unusual - there is not the male-female yin-yang energy in the relationship - but the several gay couples and a few families i know everything seems to work well nonetheless. i don't know how or why it works with two men but i see it can.

[@justinbeynon7980]

You don’t know how or why? It’s called love, man. Gay men have the lowest divorce rate. About 25%.

[@mikecoco346]

The craze thing is the good men got so rejected they stopped caring and so many bad toxic men got there way,

[@1Plebeian]

If we are reverting back to evolutionary and biological realities with men vs women, what happens when men start embracing it and lean into it? We developed social structures and cultures to change the nature of the game. Now, we are reverting back to evolutionary interpretations and letting men take all the hits. Why maintain the society? We created codes of conduct, rights, marriage, and culture to avoid the laws of the jungle. Now, we use the laws of the jungle to justify treating men as disposable tools? Instead of using codes of conduct, rights, good marriage rules etc to make a healthy game? No, that would inconvenience women. We are squandering wholesale the work that was done in the past to preserve the rights and dignity of everyday men (and it's not really a favor to women). The crush of reverting back to biological disposability is being felt. It's building up a large debt and resentment. No one is measuring it. It will spill over.

[@ClaireGreen-wd2gm]

In other words if a nearly powerless man isnt given a woman to own and lord over at least then hes discontent and will become either lazy or dangerous. Statistically the most dangerous man a woman ever meets is her husband

[@1Plebeian]

@ClaireGreen-wd2gm Yes, that sounds like the evolutionary biological paradigm that we came from. Average women want the top 15% of men. They treat the rest with contempt. If they sometimes settle, it's for a queen+acolyte dynamic. Award women to lord over? Nah. Just taking note of your true colors. Y'all are reverting back to ancient evolutionary programming.

[@1Plebeian]

@ClaireGreen-wd2gm That is the old evolutionary dynamic, isn't it? Y'all want the top 15% of men. The rest you treat with biological contempt. If you do settle, it's with inner resentment and for a queen & acolyte dynamic. Small wonder this builds resentment? You have never been more free, had more safety, or had more provision, and look at what you're doing. Y'alls true colors are being revealed. Awarded a woman? To lord over? Nah. The average gal has contempt for an average guy. The average woman will happily destroy an average man if it makes her happier. It would be cruel to saddle him with one. Your gender is reverting back to its ancient evolutionary programming.

[@1Plebeian]

@ClaireGreen-wd2gm That is the old evolutionary dynamic, isn't it? Y'all want the top 15%. The rest you treat with biological contempt. If a gal does settle, it's with inner resentment and for a queen & acolyte dynamic. Small wonder this builds resentment? Women have never been more free, had more safety, or had more provision, and look at what they're doing. Thier true colors are being revealed. Awarded a woman? To lord over? Nah. The average gal has contempt for an average guy. The average woman will happily destroy an average man if it makes her happier. It would be cruel to saddle him with one. The gender is reverting back to its ancient evolutionary programming.

[@1Plebeian]

@ClaireGreen-wd2gm That is the old evolutionary dynamic, isn't it? Women want the top 15%. The rest are treated with biological contempt. If a gal does settle, it's with inner resentment and for a queen & acolyte dynamic. Small wonder this builds resentment? They have never been more free, had more safety, or had more provision, and look at what they're doing. Their true colors are being revealed. Awarded a one? To lord over? Nah. The average gal has contempt for an average guy. The average woman will happily destroy an average man if it makes her happier, it happens ad nauseum in the family courts. It would be cruel to saddle him with one. The gender has reverted back to its ancient evolutionary programming.

[@matthewatwood8641]

We have to stop saying that men don't care about other men. It isn't true. We are still fellow human beings & we need each other as brothers and fathers, business partners, teammates etc. Men are not biologically disposable either. Again men are needed. It's that men are needed to put their lives on the line & do difficult and dangerous things & to protect women & children. It's necessary for men to be exposed to danger more, but we are also endowed with much less vulnerability to that danger. This cynical shorthand of no one's coming to save you is just false and misleading overgeneralization.

[@manifest2203]

You are not living in reality.

[@matthewatwood8641]

@manifest2203 no, it's you that's not living in reality. If you see a man drowning. Would you tell him no one is coming to save him and he should pull himself out? It's played out.

[@mikesheridan5218]

KK is a voice of truth and wisdom in a world full of verbal bollocks .....

[@alexdavila1356]

I dont understand the whole Harvey Weinstien thing. The man makes a scummy proposal, fame and power and connections at the cost of your soul, but someone has to accept that proposal. Doesnt that need to be called out also? He didnt elevate these people from extreme suffering, he merely elevated them from being average. None of these people did it to save their lives or someone else's, they all did it for the immense profit and power and if you consider that, then who is really the victim? That seems like a trade to me. I really think that needs to be called out too. MeToo always felt like a cover up by exposing something we innately view as evil to hide bad actions by other side which were in process of coming to light or being gossiped about. Listen to how those celebs talk about it before and after the scandal; they all were complacent

[@thefuturist8864]

That’s an interesting take, but the basic problem still remains i.e. work was conditional on agreeing to inappropriate demands. Where film stars are concerned (and perhaps most other audience-facing jobs in entertainment) it’s always tempting to see them as a luxury that elevates a person from being ordinary to being extraordinary. However, films being so beloved by the public, as well as film and TV being the dominant forms of storytelling for a storytelling species, means that there will always be a need for film stars; add to that the enormous cost of making the films and the stars will need to be presented as extraordinary in order to get people to see the film. Lastly, a person needs to be paid for their time and a film star can demand a high fee if they are associated with previous box office successes (just as anyone whose services are in demand can do). Ultimately it comes down to the question of whether it’s ever acceptable that the demands were made (by Weinstein, or anyone else) in the first place, and once future success becomes tied to consenting to such demands a line has been crossed.

[@robinthrush9672]

@@thefuturist8864 It comes down to the notion that the actress couldn't attain these prominent roles by her own talent and needed boosts to get them. Notice how the whole thing started when these actresses were no longer young and pretty and many didn't stand out for their performances. This sort of thing happens in other industries, but entertainment has a higher threshold for low talent/skill if a person is attractive (not just women).

[@brianmcconnell7126]

Weinstein was a POS to EVERYONE because that is how he wielded his power. Some women took him down, but he was very good at destroying allot of men who did not play his games and kiss his feet.

[@steve3131]

@@alexdavila1356 Ashley Judd said when Harvey Weinstein put the moves on her she told him she'd only sleep with him if he got her an Oscar winning role. I can certainly understand an actress (even one as untalented as Ashley Judd) turning down Harvey Weinstein sexually, but she wasn't rejecting him (which she had every right to) she was making a counter offer- one that he couldn't fulfill. He's no Brad Pitt but she is no Meryl Streep. An ugly man can buy sex and an opportunistic woman (or man) can sell it, but no deal could give her the talent she lacks. Her rage (her "I'm a nasty woman" rant, reporting TSA agent who called her "honey") is a function of the fact that she was purely decorative as an actress and her shelf life expired.

[@manifest2203]

@@steve3131 and this is why I will never have any sym6pathy for any ma5n. They always find the smallest things women do wrong and make that out to be the reason to excuse the perpetrator. He should never hold any form of employment over another person with the condition that they have to sleep with him. It is a livelihood issue.

[@michaelrobinson9643]

How do we break open echo chambers? They are the core of extremism due to natively promoting it. Algorithms that push in extremist direction instead of presenting balanced views are likely more broadly harmful. Fix these and perhaps the thoughts being expressed will change as underlying opinions do.

[@M1911jln]

Social media has found that outrage is engaging. So algorithms and influencers promote items that result in outrage. That increases divisions.

[@n8works]

The feminization of society is the problem. Case in point - Anger Anger is a typical masculine trait. Anger has been demonized and criminalized in many cases. However Anger is NOT violence. Anger is natural and healthy and motivates positive change. Many of our social ills are due to apathy - corruption, injustice, and depravity Our ability to get angry and express that anger has been neutered, and that is killing us. Words are not violence

[@everquestfan]

I agree. I believe the social/culture problems come from unbalanced empathy. Fair play has been lost under the guise of justice.

[@manifest2203]

No one says that anger is a problem. Anger is the only emotional some m4n experience and that is. And words definitely are v5ioen6ce. They hurt more people than actual we6apons. In any case, words are the start of vio6lence.

[@n8works]

@@manifest2203 urghey

[@enoontnatropmi7174]

@@manifest2203 you are the problem, please shut up, lean in, an listen to what these men are saying, your opinions are not important here, this is not your space, you need to be quiet and listen, don't talk, we don't need your opinion you are making the space less safe for everyone by voicing your opinions. BE BETTER.

[@manifest2203]

@@enoontnatropmi7174 stop being emotional.

[@devilinthebelfry7292]

What I fear is that some of us are going to break bad because of this and TAKE our place back in society. What do disenfranchised, lonely men do to the village?

[@devilinthebelfry7292]

It wouldn't be the first time. What do disenfranchised, lonely men do?

[@markdevine4888]

Treated badly? Healthy and unhealthy? By what SHARED standard? "the way things should be" ? What what standard? Women and men need to work together? Says who? And if accept that men and women should work together well, toward what goal? Healthy goal? Healthy by what standard?

[@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894]

Disagree and wanting harm others two different things

[@roymarshjiujitsu]

I agree that men / boys need to focus on finding a purpose and pursuing it. The problem these days a lot of boys who come from single family homes have no male role model until they're men. This is because the Education system is largely staffed by women. so, from Kindergarten on, most of their guidance is from women. And, especially these days, the default view in a lot of schools seem to be that boys are broken and need to be trained to be more like girls are supposed to be - consensus seeking, ideology reaffirming, emotion over logic or restraint, safetyist, etc. And, even if a boy has a Father in the home, it's still 12 years minimum in a system that tells them their natural inclinations are wrong and that they need to suppress their energies instead of learning how to channel them. About the only time boys get a reprieve is if they do sports. That's sometimes their only access to strong male guidance and a reinforcement of Good Male instincts. So, I don't think it's male victimhood when Men aren't "being better." It's often that they've never been taught how they should be men and what that actually means.

[@TopsideCrisis346]

9:00 Thank you for that bit about political correctness. If my generation had known that 30 years ago, America would be in much better shape today. #WakeUpFromWoke

[@mintoxace5571]

Konstantin is great. Men and women do need to work together in order to survive.

[@latetotheparty184]

And so men must work harder and be better as usual, and the women......not so much

[@manifest2203]

@@latetotheparty184 every woman works more than any ma5n.

[@jordanlee0323]

This is an important topic. Remember to google someone. Check credentials, analyze the target audience of that individual, ask yourself if you are the target, ask if they use absolute language (always, never etc…), are they name dropping or quoting someone else’s opinion to give themselves props. Is this proactive or reactive behavior.

[@strictlyanonymous2220]

11:02 telling a fact now would still result in a ban.

[@Mike80528]

There's still an unusual amount of uncertainty around the gain of function research being the source of COVID. There's some compelling counter-arguments based on specific genetic research on the early virus. Both seem equally plausible to me at this point. Which you lean towards is probably as much a matter of your personal bias at this point. It will likely be years before we know with any certainty.

[@johnpaciorek8967]

I have only now been exposed to your podcasts and find your comments as well as your thinking in general to be very honest and discerning, which makes me think you would be easily comforted in reading my as yet unpublished Book entitled, "Her-Story" vs. "His-Tory." It's only 95 pages and can be easily emailed to you. Here's an excerpt: Is “He” the Pre-Eminent Face of Creation’s Legacy? That is what “His-story” has told us over perhaps countless Millenia. Whether it is true or not, it would seem prudent to intuitively investigate an alternative, “Her-story,” or even perhaps “Their-Story,” to gain a proper perspective as to “what could have been or should be or what actually is”! (Did our Saxon ancestors get it right by referring to the term “Mankind” as Woman?) How would modern “evolutionists” describe the ascendancy of female persuasion in today’s civilized societies around the world? The civilized world has had no choice but to intellectually accept what Nature has been hinting at for those countless millennia! “And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.” - (Was that statement Man’s first and only inspired expression of thought, after recognizing the naturally inherent female capacity to birth, nourish, and nurture Life’s Progeny?) Does the Bible, or any “Holy-Book,” accurately depict the creation and evolution of the Universe including the Idea of MAN’s presumptuous entitlement of “pre-eminence”? Moments of questionable inspiration must have motivated any number of scribes to implant a meaningful inscription for posterity to contemplate and actively engage as a directive toward a benevolent enterprise. Certainly, we all have found ourselves motivated into profitable action by the inspiration elicited by thoughts, words, or examples of enlightened others whose compelling experiences have been proven at least sporadically successful for themselves, yet not for the hopeful. The Bible and all other reference Books on Life’s Spiritual Origination and subsequent Physical reality, to which most “Soul-Searching” individuals, families, and communities have been indoctrinated, seemed, over innumerable centuries, to have inspired then motivated separate and collective action that could, in many ways, be construed as both beneficial and/or deleterious to individual, collective, or universal well-being. An innate sense of “manifest-destiny,” taking impetus from an equally inherent but spiritually abhorrent mortal prescription for material prosperity in its “survival of the fittest”- mentality, catered to a suppositional prerogative of “divine-intervention” to validate the various outcomes of warfare in territorial pursuits of Man’s dominion over the Earth and “his” subjugated minorities, including women.

[@AncaCriste]

The problem is that there are more women that men listening to this podcast and advices

[@costantin75]

So... I`d like to buy a Konstantin Kisin robot and have "him" seated on my living room. When is it coming to the market? It`d be like a super Alexa. I`d talk to him all day - "Hey Konstantin, I was thinking (...) what do you think of that?". More than this, I`d like to have a Konstantin Kisin and a Thomas Sowell robots and I`d leave them to speak common sense all day long, like when my kids had those Furby criters that would talk non-stop to each other. No, seriously... I don`t know if Konstantin is partly interpreting a character, trying very hard to keep his calm in a world going crazy, but how can one be so centered? Virtually everything he says makes sense. "Don`t hate on groups, don`t generalize" should be thought to every human, since we`re babies. Nazism is too recent for us to forget.

[@jamesdean0885]

2:38 it's the working together that's the issue, when we can't understand and / or emphasise with members of the opposing gender. How can one when we are not one? 🤔 It's no wonder people suffer from body dismorphia and we have others confusing gender with sex. 😅

[@CraigCastanet]

Nemo Venit. Vincit qui se vincit.

[@nothingmakessense2]

If the mother doesn’t treat you as an equal parent , you need to fight to be treated as an equal parent. Fathers don’t have the rights to their children , they had to fight for them in the family court system. You won’t believe it until you’re in it. 3 years and £250,000 . Bankrupt me. But I am now an equal parent.

[@ahmadkojo1945]

He is saying exactly what andrew tate says always, but he gets more accepted because he is an academic and not as loud as andrew

[@alexbishop84]

Which can be more dangerous.

[@gatocles99]

@@alexbishop84 As dangerous as Andrea Dworkin?

[@alexbishop84]

@@gatocles99 I don’t know who she is. I’m sure there’s harmful words spoken on both sides. I just meant, if someone appears to carry the legitimacy of being academic and wearing smart clothes, they can achieve a more dangerous level of influence. Compared to someone like Tate who wears his misogyny more transparently like a caricature and can be more obviously seen for what he is.

[@warwicksworkshop9511]

He's not an academic. He's a comedian and libertarian mouthpiece. He didn't even finish his undergrad.

[@gatocles99]

@@alexbishop84 Andrea Dworkin is probably the most famous feminists, and one of many who advocated the complete eradication of males. I think you are dishonest when you say that you do not know who she is, in this day and age of unparalleled access to information.

[@paulmoulton7248]

There is a lack of appreciation by society for men. Men were the solution to making a great society where we could thrive. Over time society then forgot that the solution to misery was men. Instead, because the problem was so well managed, people saw flaws in the solution and invented the Patriarchy to attack the solution. We need to educate people about this and teach how we can appreciate the society that our ancestors created. The is the exact opposite of what is happening and the result will be what you would expect.

[@billwalton4571]

Yes and its not just a matter of men becoming better as the guest suggested because there is a proportion of this that is zero sum game. Women are taking mens jobs for example. A proportion of men will have to miss out in this model. The solution is for women to desire to be traditional by choice, which historically did include working but casual hours in non-professional careers.

[@paulmoulton7248]

@@billwalton4571 I think that we start with education. An appreciation of our history. In doing that it robs the emotions tied to hating the patriarchy...which is just a framing and is not real.

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

Free speech on KZbin in 10 years if nothibg happens: ( * = bleep) KZbin video 2034 soundtrack: "****************************"

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

No, it didn't come from a lab in China and gain of function research. If it was it could be proven by analysis. It hasn't.

[@johnnybgoode1950]

I don't think men are nearly as disposable as you profess. Without adequate numbers of men, how much construction, energy, food production and protection would society have? One man would be very hard pressed to protect and sustain ten women and all their offspring all by himself. There have been historical cases where women all went on strike and hardly anyone noticed. By contrast, we have seen instances when men went on strike and whole systems went into complete collapse.

[@davida.taylor8444]

That's a great point, I thought similarly when I heard this. If all the women went to war, like he illustrates, and died, I would think that the men would try to raid another village for its women. They wouldn't just die out like he presupposes.

[@EdwinRichard-e9m]

Interesting. Do you have any examples of men going on such a strike? I'd like to look into it.

[@johnnybgoode1950]

@@EdwinRichard-e9m Look at the 2022-2024 United Kingdom railway strikes and the impact it had.

[@EdwinRichard-e9m]

@@johnnybgoode1950 Thanks. Any others you can suggest?

[@phh2400]

Both situation can be true together. You are describing complex civilisation, that needs a highly skilled professionals to cooperate for everything to keep working smoothly. Same effect as you describe is by not having "adequate numbers of men" but "adequate numbers of men or women in any specialization, even that the rest is having adequate numbers" - it would still create immediate problems or long-term collapse. Civilisations collapsed many times but the "more disposable men thinking" is even more ancient, when we were small tribes, even before we could talk about Homo Sapiens and caves and fire....wired in the brain in the same way that is wired for you to "crouch, shoulders up and stiffen the neck" when something scary sounds behind you - we were for too long hunted by jumping cats from the tree that you are still hardwired by evolution pressure to at least try to make it more complicated for them.. those without the reflex were simply easier target and died off in the Darwin game. Similarly, tribes that would try to use males and females in same dangers (not protect the females like any social mammal) and suffer similar ratios of losses equally, would die off in the long term. The brain structures are still there, for example there is very different behavior of soldiers when female is injured in the army , even that in the battle everyone basically become "equally worthless".. it just more uncovers the basic instincts.

[@jaywalks9918]

We didn’t evolve to use a toilet either. Yet here we are pooping into a ceramic chair.

[@JohnMcintosh-dm1gn]

Some of us are, some of us are pooping in the street! 😮

[@phh2400]

That's not comparable and factually wrong. One is about physical properties (fish truly cannot "use" the toilet same way as humans do, but the toilet is just a more convenient to do exactly same thing as we are evolved to do in the nature - we would not for example be evolved for a toilet that would use centrifugal force to empty your intestines.. ), second is about evolved basic wirings in the brain basically every mammal - as any species who adopted K-selection strategy simply cannot operate on "any member is equally worthless" - it must protect the females by putting the male on the line against the danger. We humans can try to overcome anything with technology, social norms, traditions etc. - but at current state that's counterproductive. Until babies are truly "made in some machine" it is pointless to argue about evolution NOT affecting the perceived difference of value of females and males in a large society as a whole. This does not say it must be only this way, but just acknowledging that even current day social norms are influenced by deeper evolution traits.

[@patrickohara1653]

If people’s - Personal Contact details and residential address were legally tied to everything they posted on Social media. The whole sorry mess would disappear overnight.

[@john-m1s8k]

Any thoughts about In Vitro Gametogenesis? Making babies without women.

[@RecoveryNewsChannel-v5f]

I'm giving up

[@markdevine4888]

Define better? Better by what standard? What is better for a man or a woman according to feminism is not compatible with what is deemed better according the the Bible or the Christian tradition in the west. What is "better" needs a standard. what is it?

[@steve3131]

Outside of a country with Sharia law, women were never treated as badly as men. It's just that misandry has gotten so extreme that even the most obtuse and clueless men are fed up.

[@alexbishop84]

Sorry? Other than Sharia law, there’s been no pattern of women being treated badly? Is that your point?

[@steve3131]

@@alexbishop84 I said misandry is worse. It is- men's issues are completely ignored. Michelle Obama thinks it's terrible that the Boko Haram KIDNAPPED schoolgirls. What about when the same group LOCKED BOYS IN A SCHOOL AND SET FIRE TO THEM?

[@alexbishop84]

I’m trying to understand your point. You’re saying the treatment of men in society is worse than the treatment of women?

[@steve3131]

@@alexbishop84 it sure is. When The Washington Post prints an article entitled "Why Can't We Just Hate Women?" And The New York Times prints one entitled "The Unexamined Brutality of Female Libido", I'll consider an alternative opinion. Right now, it's not even close.

[@alexbishop84]

Ok. I don’t need to add anything here. You’ve said all you need to say for us to see the type of guy you are.

[@MasterPourKnowP]

The problem with men is that we are only needed these days for our semen and hilarious jokes.

[@anneflynn9614]

Not true!

[@teresamagnusson]

You want to be needed? Like back in the day when women couldn't earn their own money? You boys can miss me with that nonsense.

[@jamesdoyle2769]

@@anneflynn9614 So often it's women speaking up to defend men in our troubles. Thank you!

[@manifest2203]

Women want companionship and romance. Problem is men make it only about s4x and him enjoying her domestic labor, children from her and then her raising them. And also try to screw her over by pursuing other women (biggest consumers of OF are mar6ied m4n). And yes such m4n will find in the situation you mentioned. But the ones who are ok, are good. Romance with these men is better than it has ever been.

[@manifest2203]

Women want companionship and romance. Problem is men make it only about s4x and him enjoying her domestic labor, children from her and then her raising them. And also try to screw her over by pursuing other women (biggest consumers of OF are mar6ied m4n).

[@MrNemitri]

Doesn't free speech come with its own limiter already? You aren't supposed to lie or slander someone if I recall correctly.

[@stephenelliott6552]

Advise your sons never to marry.

[@hamlet557]

Or better : don't advise your kids. Let them have education and experiences early on, so that they can have their own opinions. Your kids are not your possesions, you can't make them live the life you wanted.

[@mysteidolon8850]

MGTOW.

[@hh8982]

bro needs a hug

[@burninglion2584]

Men have to look after themselves, success in this is a large part of being a fully grown man, no? Stop moaning, do better.

[@jackdeniston6150]

We are raised to take care of everyone else. You are right, most Men need to be more ´selfish´. Like women need to become less so.

[@jonahtwhale1779]

Can we apply thth art "shut up and do better" to women? No jobs for women - create your own industries, like men had to! No Banking, IT, manufacturing etc until men created them!

[@Nobleheart111]

Agreed. Do without women. Be better away from them.

[@longsword1969]

I think your all short sited the actual beginning of it started after 911

[@karleomckenzie1106]

I think how we’re gonna make the world a better place Is we all come together? Cause sexism affects both men and women it just affects us both in different ways Like people needs to talk about women and men’s issues at the same time We need to end both misogyny and misandry Cause if we’re talking about ending sexism, we need to end it all together Let’s talk about women struggles And make sure women has equal rights to men And let’s talk about men’s struggles Like make it fair for women and make it fair for men That’s how the world is going to get better If we talk about both issues Less in both misogyny and misandry Lesson in all sorts of sexism And make the world equal Were men and women come together?

[@manifest2203]

That is an idealistic view. But mis6gyny is far more damaging and far more pervasive than we women ever belived.

[@manifest2203]

As a woman, I will never lift a finger to support any ma6n or his cause.

[@manifest2203]

As a wom6an, I will never lift a finger to support any ma6n or his cause.

[@manifest2203]

As a wom6an, I will never lift a finger to supp8rt any ma6n or his cause.

[@manifest2203]

As a wom6an, I will never lift a finger to support any ma6n or h6is cause.

[@hollamonE]

It would be nice if men cared about their mental health. Most of the men I know need therapy in some way and honestly have no interest. Men's mental health would have more of a voice if men got in touch with their feelings and actually worked on themselves. Most men have noooooo desire to address their mental health from my experience. They don't want to examine themselves in a healthy way.

[@N-xi2zh]

Many men I know are destroyed completely by meds. GO deep dive on PSSD, PFS. Autism, ADHD. etc... you're literally on your own as a man. I recovered from both those syndromes, no thanks to anyone except a group of men for the latter one. Talked men and women out of suicide. Many are destroyed 10 20 40 yrs. Society isn't for you as a man, especially if you are an unpopular ethnicity. Lockdown killed millions with ASD, Aspergers etc. Everyone clapped for it and was happy.

[@rayzerot]

Therapy is crap. Sorry. My experience with therapy was crap. Since age 16 I've had 5 therapists. I had a few for over a year but all of them for at least 6 months. Biggest waste of money, time, and effort

[@amorfati6728]

Has it occurred to you that what works for women may not work for men ?

[@drakoan]

Effective therapy for men is generally not talk therapy but a more action focused therapy. The therapy industry is dominantly occupied by women but men need other men or the rare woman who properly understands mens needs in order to be effective. psychacks and healthygamergg are both channels that have addressed this. It isn't that men don't care about their mental health it is that they don't feel it is cared about properly in general and don't see the conventional methods as being the right path for them. Men are different than women and their mental health needs are different.

[@LordSkella]

@@rayzerotagreed I have had like three since 16 and it’s crap We solve by doing lot talking

[@hotkeyafl]

It's the best time in history. Stop whining all of you.

[@brianmeen2158]

Haha I agree. I see so much complaining online and although there are real problems, we do live in the safest and most comfortable time in history. Folks online act like it’s never been worse and that’s just idiotic

[@hotkeyafl]

@@brianmeen2158 If everyone focused on being problem solvers there wouldn't be so many losers in the world.

[@fatmonkey4716]

​@@hotkeyaflExactly, people are more selfish than ever, and they have been manipulated into victim mindsets. They think "I don't have to work towards a solution, because the problem is so much bigger than me", even though every person that behaves better will make the society a better place.

[@TheMightyWalk]

Kisin is a agent

[@TheyCalledMeT]

the problem .. males toxicity .. shows VERY EARLY .. female toxcicity eventually shows late .. with bad luck, when she leaves you poor and homeless

[@Planeet-Long]

If this was true no woman would ever get into an abusive or toxic relationship. If toxic males were so easy to detect no woman would ever suffer a toxic relationship. Stupid toxic men are easily detected, the smart ones aren't. Same goes for women, but for whatever reason we're not allowed to claim start men or dumb women exist.

[@mashae.1066]

Men really need to work on their emotional skills if they want to be in a relationships. I have been on many dates this past year with men whose wives left them, and they were in complete shock. I felt bad for them at first as well until we would be on date number 3 and I would realize that this man is yet to ask a single question about how my day went or how I’m doing. All they ever did was talk about themselves. And they were confused about why their ex-wives left them because “ I was making money and not cheating on her”. Men truly feel like those two things is all you need to maintain a relationship. 😂

[@TheOrignalTRockz]

These guys are stuck in the 50s and don’t want to evolve. Ignoring and finger pointing is all that little boys of all ages do.

[@Photik]

That would be more like self awareness and social skills, imo. But men usually have male alexithymia.

[@jonahtwhale1779]

Odd that he has to keep paying money to his ex-wife after the marriage is over - then you claim money is not important!

[@ClaireGreen-wd2gm]

​@@jonahtwhale1779Only 10% of divorces in the US result in anyone paying or recieving alimony and woman can be the ones paying it.

[@jackdeniston6150]

Yeah, you are dating many men who are divorced......YOU have to work on yourself, clearly incapable of any relationship with a man.

[@spicole2937]

Changz the law or shu^^ up

[@boshirahmed]

Why has he got an american accent now?

[@squirrel-e7j]

how can you replenish the tribe.. ibreding doesnt work out so well for ppl. does this guy even know any actual ppl ?

[@faerieus]

Very interesting that you think wokism and political correctness is the issue with why men are thrown under the bus.

[@alexbishop84]

Yeah. All those over sensitive women speaking out about SA and abuse. That’s obviously the problem. Not the men.

[@gatocles99]

Wokism and political correctness are weapons of Communism... Just like how all the early Feminists(and later ones) were Moscow trained Communists. See the connection?

[@alexbishop84]

@@gatocles99No

[@gatocles99]

@@alexbishop84 It is a fact that wokism and political correctness and feminism were all invented by Communists as weapons of Cultural Revolution, deal with it.

[@brianmeen2158]

Wokeness and identity politics are a big factor. Academia right now is refusing to take this problem seriously because they can’t possibly digest that straight men are not doing well

[@drazenkasvedruzic3849]

I have heard lots of discussion on this issue and there is merit to it. Nevertheless, that really applies only to younger men and women. Even in the modern world, dynamic shifts to men's advantage later in life.

[@SuperMagnum83]

Only if they work very hard a attain success.

[@fatmonkey4716]

So, you're just going to ignore w men's advantage at the younger age?

[@sharonberry410]

Wokeness doesn't create these divisions. Patriarchy creates them. Needs more critical thinking.

[@asedition8847]

I hate this men to war women to home……not all women want to be wife’s and mothers some women are better at war than being a wife some men are better at being at home than being a warrior……don’t condemn either.

[@SuperMagnum83]

Trying to make exceptions relevant is just stupid.

[@KathySierraVideo]

“No one seems to care…” you’re joking, right? Because most of the biggest “influencers” won’t stop talking about it. I’ve seen more headlines devoted to this by the largest accounts (which including this one, Peterson, Rogan, Chris Williams, Impact Theory, etc etc) than to any one sides related to women. Not saying there aren’t issues, just saying this headline seems way off.

[@terrykrow7820]

The influencers you speak of are either villified or not mainstream. The mainstream narrative is what he speaks of...

[@typhlosionmaster6832]

Most people don’t care - especially women.

[@ivo3903]

She’s an exactly what he’s talking about isn’t it

[@marktyler3381]

Jess Phillips has blocked any debate on men's issues

[@MattFoleysGhost]

Nothing you mentioned is mainstream media. Think about that.

[@andyevans8585]

The risk with Twitter allowing anything to be said under "freedom of speech" is that you can say anything you want, whether it is true or not. Deliberately spreading lies should not be allowed.

[@JamesWeir-j7i]

Who decides what is a lie?

[@sanniepstein4835]

That is a terrible attitude. Who would do the allowing? The biggest and most successful liars.

[@fiber1881]

I don't 100% disagree with this guy but some of the most blatant attacks on free speech are also done by the right and it would have been smart to bring up these to show both sides. Just as one example being the numerous book bannings in the State of Florida in the United States.

[@gatocles99]

No books were banned. Pornography simply belongs in the adult section of the library and bookstores, not in elementary schools.

[@lmr1049]

you’re joking 🤦🏻‍♀️ because they’re banning pornographic books for minors (!) in schools, they’re “attacking free speech”? brother…

[@ClaireGreen-wd2gm]

I agree with the other comments. I used to be so against banning books entirely but Ive never been and never will be against only putting age appropriate books in childrens libraries. If you listen to these books being read outloud they are p9rn

[@joejo4549]

Yeah that's a huge reason I can't take the American right seriously, lots of grift while hiding their own bs (which is worse than the left bs)

[@brianmeen2158]

@@lmr1049yeah when I show people the actual pictures that were in those books that were taken out of junior high schools - they are usually shocked .. then they slowly start to realize that they’ve been lied to

[@HeyokaGirlSpeaks]

Mmm. After listening to a portion of this content and reading some of the comments, I now understand why I am a single female.

[@teresamagnusson]

Stay safe and single, girl!!!

[@jamesdoyle2769]

Yes. You're probably just not fit for a relationship with a man. You're clearly not comfortable with men deciding to stop taking women's shit any more. That's fine; there are plenty of very happy ways to live without a man.

[@EdwinRichard-e9m]

I'm curious, what specifics did you find that makes you say that?

[@fatmonkey4716]

Yeah, we can spot it too, it is called selfishness.

[@fatmonkey4716]

​@@teresamagnusson Do you have any data that supports the claim that single women are safer than those that are not? Because men are the protectors, so your claim is counterintuitive.

[@sharonberry410]

To stop being predators.

[@wiseonwords]

@sharonberry410 - It's really too bad that all the men you've chosen seem to have been predators. I feel truly sorry for you. I hope you get the help you need. I hope you learn to make better choices.

[@sharonberry410]

@@wiseonwords So predictable, narc. I've got your number. I know your type. Incel.

[@chocolatesugar4434]

Ugh, ffs 😂

[@TheOrignalTRockz]

Best comment. Thanks. Finally some sense.

[@alexbishop84]

Haha. I’m try to think of the best way to phrase my point, but this says it all. Perfectly. Why did I even watch this to be annoyed. I don’t want a man in my life anyway, so why am I watching this shit 😂

[@lmr1049]

best comment here by far hahaha

[@yodab.at1746]

Totally agree. 🤮

[@Photik]

​@@alexbishop84because you like to voice your opinion online and be hateful towards men.

[@Sam_Saylor]

The conclusion that by going to a kindergarten and seing it run by women confirms that this is just what women are good at and should be doing is just plain trash, and i was gutted to see stephen jovially laughing on after this point with his guest as if it was the most obvious thing in the world. Its not, its the most presumed thing and its the easiest answer to go to IMO. I mean really, nothing to do with socialized roles, the offshoots of a patriachal system, the fact that we arent empowered enough to break out of our moulds. Anyways, i dont normally commment on these videos, i was just suprised.

[@cindymiller1815]

Yeah I don't believe for a second that day care and kindergarten are mostly run by women because they're naturally better at it. I think for a lot of those positions they won't hire men because the parents would revolt.

[@alexbishop84]

I thought the same. Women are asking to break out of traditional roles. He uses the fact that a lot of woman are doing these roles are evidence that they’re good at it so keep them there. No. It’s just evidence of the roles they’re being held in. We’re saying we want out! So who is he to say we should keep doing it because he benefits from it and it raises him up?!

[@tf2368]

@@alexbishop84🤡

[@weareallamericans7358]

​@@alexbishop84so on the other side of the spectrum do you see men knocking down the door to get into kindergarten child care ?

[@alexbishop84]

@@weareallamericans7358No and that’s the issue. Women are doing these roles because men aren’t stepping up to do them. Men like in this podcast are suggesting women should stay there because it helps them do better and go off and be a provider. Women are saying they want to do that, but that would require men sharing the childcare more. And they don’t want to.

[@squirrel-e7j]

he does talk like Andrew Tate. the good men dealt with the Harvey W type?? when? why do we have so many of them all over the place? when is this guy going to protect anyone instead of talking and making money off Andrew Tate rhetoric.

[@SuperMagnum83]

A lot of women kept quiet about him as well so not to inconvenience themselves when it came to getting work. His personal assistance was a woman and would have known everything.

[@SuperMagnum83]

It's because men have been brainwashed by the woke education and culture to think that their very nature is wrong.

[@taffwob]

​@@SuperMagnum83She got a top slot on the Disney Star Wars gravy train as a reward.

[@m.a.p.g.]

Woman here; according to the title of this video, all I can say is join the crowd. Women’s issues haven’t been heard for centuries. If the roles are indeed reversing to another extreme it’s not so good, but on the other hand a reality check is good medicine.

[@gatocles99]

How is mindless revenge, "good medicine"?

[@Photik]

How is denying that men issues are actually there, a problem?

[@dylanaltland215]

You're talking about a very small percentage of men. The overwhelmingly vast majority of men throughout history have suffered just as bad as women. And women have held positions of power and wielded power in their own way as well. Viewing history through modern sentiments and perspectives takes away the true context of why it was that way in the first place.

[@m.a.p.g.]

@@gatocles99 Who said anything about revenge? It’s more , from my perspective, humanity adjusting itself. There are indeed some good men today and throughout history. I’m married to one and have been for 35 years.

[@m.a.p.g.]

@@Photik They are not a problem. All I said was that it’s fitting that men experience what women have for centuries.

[@kefalo84]

Someone has been listening to Rollo Tomassi….

[@spicole2937]

Everything u talk about destabilizes middle and lower clzss people u dont know sh%%

[@riceexperiment]

It goes both ways. Men are seen. Men are heard. Rarely when a women is a victim do people actually support her. I don't see that in reality. Look at victim shaming.

[@RyanLongArt]

What utter nonsense.

[@EdwinRichard-e9m]

Sorry, that's not how it is. The reality is that men are rarely acknowledged as victims when they're victimized. A 15 year old boy can (and has) be the victim of SA from a 34 year old woman, said women gets pregnant, and the 15 year old boy is then forced to pay for child support. If men are so seen/heard, then surely it would have been impossible for this 34 year old woman to get away with anything, let alone child support from her victim.

[@christianlovelock3910]

Ah yes, that's why there are 1000s of men's domestic violence shelters and none for women, despite the number of victims being roughly equal. Oh, wait.

[@warwicksworkshop9511]

Mate, you're slowly becoming the next Joe Rogan. I'm 30 seconds from unsubscribing.

[@alexbishop84]

Same

[@brianmeen2158]

Someone is triggered 😲

[@RyanLongArt]

Being the next Joe Rogan is an enormous compliment.

[@grademployment]

And? Who cares

[@EMpowered06]

Aw poor babies.

[@jackdeniston6150]

You believe the pay gap right? YOU are the problem.

[@elliot6467]

Women need men, men don't need women. You're disposable, nothing more, nothing less. I know that hurts you, but try to be more positive poppet

[@ClaireGreen-wd2gm]

​@@elliot6467 Sorry Elliot. As long as we women are the ones constantly rejecting men and the men are doing absolutely desperate behavior just to get our attention then men are the ones that are struggling acting like they need us

[@teresamagnusson]

Yes, let's cry them a river

[@RyanLongArt]

Being awful doesn't make you empowered.

[@alexbishop84]

1:12 I’m sorry?! You’ve been dealt a bad hand compared to the previous generations when men were in charge?! That’s like saying white people have been dealt a bad hand compared to previous generations where they had slaves. Removing unjustifiable inequality is not being dealt a ‘bad hand’. He really said a lot here with this one sentence.

[@drazenkasvedruzic3849]

While older men have enjoyed all the privileges, younger men today are punished for it. And that is the problem. We are raising generations that are bitter, resentful, and lost, and ultimately voting for Trump.

[@sandrochiavaro7831]

⁠@@drazenkasvedruzic3849 no Young men are punished for older me privileges. They are confronted with a more balanced social structure. There are women in the armed forces, fire departments and so on so forth. Dominant traits are learned from generation to generation. We don’t teach men that courage and strength isn’t aggressive behavior. Teach men to respect women not as equals but equally worth respect and capable of doing any tasks. The problem we have with gender roles and that we limit what these roles are and make it wrong for a men to be a care taker with children or family home. There is a lot of nuances lost here. The pendulum has to swing over but it will self correct if we educate young men to be respectful and honorable, same with young women.

[@sunilchoudhury379]

Maybe not punish collectively, has it ever occurrd to you, or are you just another opportunist.

[@VictorSneller]

It sounds to me like you’re not taking men’s issues seriously.

[@teresamagnusson]

​@@VictorSnellerNobody is.

[@trydowave]

R0ll0cks