ProRes RAW - Expectations and Reality | PART 2: DEEP ANALYSIS

UPDATE August 25, 2020:
Final Cut X now supports WB and ISO control...F...I...N...A...L...L...Y!!! Will work on an updated episode
Welcome to Part 2 of My ProRes RAW analysis.
With ProRes RAW gaining momentum, it will fairly be compared now to the big players in the RAW cinematography club such as Arri RAW and Red's R3D.
So the main question I’m asking: does proRes Raw live up to our expectations, and all this hype around it?
This episode will give you my answer.
Check out Part 1 talks about ProRes RAW on the S1H and how it compares to RAW from other camera.: • ProRes RAW - Expectati...
TIME STAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:32 Types of RAW
2:41 What is ProRes RAW
3:48 The meaning of RAW
4:58 PROs: Performance
7:14 PROs: 12bit
7:36 10bit Vs 12bit
9:56 PROs: Compatibility
11:23 PROs: Selectable Log Curve
12:12 PROs: Metadata
13:04 PROs: File Size
14:28 CONs: RAW Controls-WB & ISO
17:47 CONs: Corrections
19:24 ProRes RAW analysis
21:29 Who is ProRes RAW for?
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UPDATE: White Balance in ProRes RAW is now adjustable in Final Cut Pro 💪

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Thank you so much Mark for the most eloquent and flattering words that humbled me and most of all made me want to produce a lot more of such episodes. Glad to have you onboard and would surely love to see you in my upcoming episodes

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Awesome reviews!! Specially this one (2). Hoping fot that part 3. And I think it would be interesting to focus on comparing deeply ProResRAW with BRAW, since both are in the same market price. Arri and Red are more known and in another league in terms of price and RAW advance behavior as real boosting the ISO without clipping the whites so fast as cheaper RAWs new formats Thank you for your generous sharing!

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Thanks Gabo. Yeah I'm working on the 3rd video. I wanted to compare both in a separate video. Stay tuned

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Brilliant work again! I feared the true RAW flexibility would be missing, I do hope they pass that data through to NLE's so we can change white balance & ISO in post. Quite literally my favourite feature when shooting RED...Besides the incredible dynamic range. Looking forward to seeing more!

[@THEDPJOURNEY]

Cheers buddy. yeah I agree. let's hope they will fix that soon

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Glad it was helpful!

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Cheers! Glad you liked it

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As a young videographer/KZbinr, this video really educated AND entertained me. Thanks for the detailed explanation of the world of RAW.

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Great video. Nice to see we can now change ISO and WB in post in FCP 👌

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Yeah that was a great addition

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Cheers

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Thanks Oren, was in fact planning to work on that soon... stay tuned

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Really happy you liked it. Thanks for watching.

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One question I have in mind when watching your videos is: Are you editing all the motion graphics and post production stuff by yourself and do you use Final Cut for it also or AE? Because it´s sooo much stuff going on in a 20 Minute tutorial and my After Effects timeline would grow to like 300 layers at least which is pretty overwhelming haha

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Yeah I get asked that a lot hahaha , I use Keynote to do those animations. And yes it takes a long time to actually put this all together. Really Happy you appreciate the amount of effort that goes into these videos. I try to fill in the gap with educational content that is easy to assimilate by using those animations. Thanks again for your comments

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Any time!

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[@THEDPJOURNEY]

Thanks buddy! Glad you found it informative

[@mattyskier]

You put an incredible amount of effort into these videos and thank you so much! As an S1H/Ninja V owner I really hope that ProRes RAW includes the ability to change WB/ISO in the future. If it's all in the metadeta then it should be possible. Until then I will just think of it as shooting ProRes4444 with some extra work!

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Exactly what I feel! "till then" is what I'm hoping to happen soon

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Did it happen? Did they update this?

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Any update?

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@@UziMovie white balance and iso can both be changed in Final Cut Pro! So it's full on RAW

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Thank you very much for this detailed information!

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Glad it was helpful!

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Wow you've clearly put so much work in these videos! Thanks for all the clear info, such a shame they haven't added the possibility to adjust ISO and WB. :(

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Glad you like them!

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[@THEDPJOURNEY]

Thanks, yeah I'll be posting more work soon

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Man this is the very best educational video I might ever seen on YT... amazing work you put into this I know it is hard work and it shows. And as a photographer part time videographer how shoots photos exclusively in RAW format but never video I thought that video RAW is the same as in photography and now I know it is just NOT. Very sad. I would go as far as that it makes not much sense at all a normal compressed workflow with LUT might just makes more sense. very interested about BRAW and how different is that!!!

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Cheers. Glad you liked it

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You’re most welcome!

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I HAVE NEVER EVER EVER Read so many positive comments on YT on the same video. Thanks for the video, great info and explanations!

[@THEDPJOURNEY]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks again