The TD-50's MOST FLEXIBLE Snare - How To Create Better Snare Sounds | The eDrum Workshop

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

If you want more of these layering ideas, I go deep into the tuning, EQ and compression for sample layers on this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJKqqJaGmdWshbs Enjoy!

[@steevidrums]

I am not an owner of a TD50, but damn mate, I bet this video has come in major handy for most users. I love all your vids, very well laid out and informative and this just continues a trend. Excellent work!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Ahh man, thanks a lot! Really appreciated, and glad that even someone who doesn't own the module can enjoy it haha! So far the feedback suggests that it's helped some people out so fingers crossed it finds its way to more users too!

[@kurtthedrummingplumber]

Just received my TD50. Excellent kit. Never thought about Layering. Genius.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Glad the video is opening up some ideas for you! I think the layering is probably the TD-50's best feature, there's practically endless possibilities! Enjoy the module!

[@brucethedrummer]

Awesome. I struggle with eq. This helps a ton!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!

[@99beatmonster]

good work , nice clear description. I have a TD-30 and other units but good to see someone making videos about these issues.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Glad you can still find some value in the videos! Some of these ideas can still be applied to the 30, just to a lesser extent. Thanks for watching!

[@99beatmonster]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop it's just a general observation that there's a lack of videos of this type, offering instruction / tips on programming. I have been using electronics since the 80's and have my own work-around's, but I simply don't have time,space or video equipment to make videos myself. I'm happy someone is doing it.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I see what you mean there! Yeah, that's absolutely the gap in the knowledge-base that I'm aiming to cater for with my channel, so sounds like I'm on the right track. Thanks for the feedback!

[@drumseahawk6]

I just got my TD-50 and was having trouble getting the snare sound just right. This helped a ton. Thank you!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

You're welcome, glad it's helped! I'll be putting up a "snares off" tutorial in the next week or so too, if that might be of interest!

[@drumseahawk6]

Awesome! Subscribed so I’ll be checking out any TD-50 video you do 👍

[@kurtthedrummingplumber]

Just ordered myself a TD50 upgrade set, look forward to diving into the module. Your video here made me dial in my TD30 to absolute perfection.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Nice, hope you enjoy it! It's quite different sonically from the 30 but once you get used to it, it's got a lot of potential. Glad the video could help even with the 30!

[@kurtthedrummingplumber]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop it helped, because I never even considered EQ and Compression before. Opened up a whole new world.

[@MarkuzP66]

Nice Video! I found the factoy Snares also very harsch. I sold my TD50 for a mimic at least. The primitive sample ovelay feature was not state of the art in the TD50. Nice to see that you used one of my samples too for overlay. :-)

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks for watching mate! Yeah, I can understand why you would want to swap for the Mimic, it's a beast. I've seen a lot of disappointment with the 50 and gathered because I'd found some stuff I liked, I may as well share for those who are sticking with it! And yeah, I love that sample for 80s stuff or as a fat snare on heavy rock! You just have to accept it won't sound "natural" with the limitations and try to play to its strengths really.

[@mediaguy50]

Thanks Luke - I will be layers more of my snare sounds for better sounds and more impact. I don't own a TD 50 but I played one this week at a friends and noticed the sounds were a little thin. Based on that experience I am considering a TD27 and a conversion snare which has a built in cross stick. Do you have any suggestions Luke or anyone else for a snare drum that is 3 Zone (excluding Yamaha)....Would love to find a solution. I did see a 4 Zone snare on KZbin with positional sensing which sounded better than most snare drums. Thanks for any and all suggestions. Paul

[@NickBukey]

Great video Luke! Just saw this on a eDums FB group.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks Nick, cheers for checking it out! Just checked your channel out too, some great stuff on there!

[@NickBukey]

Have made a handful of vids with the 50 and I’m not completely happy yet. Thanks for this

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

@@NickBukey Happy to help! From what I've read, a lot of people are finding it hard to get what they want out of the TD-50, especially compared to the TD-30 and the like. I think the scope is there, it just takes a lot more tinkering than some people would like to do!

[@NickBukey]

Yeah! So many options for customisation. I’ve got Generations too. Have to do a bit more editing. Also haven’t found great tom 1 and 2 sounds either. Sometimes, the sounds on the 50 don’t sound that great individually but sound really good when they sit behind a track.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

@Nick Bukey Yeah, I know exactly what you mean about the sounds being a bit odd on their own but mixing well with music. That seems to be a Roland characteristic. The preset I've linked to has the best tom sounds I've managed to come up with that work well underneath other toms as layers. You have to get the tunings and sustains right when layering them though otherwise it gets a bit wild!

[@groovecat]

Excellent examples of some really nice snares. Thanks 🙏🏼

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you! Hope it's helped if you have a TD-50!

[@TheThackmeister]

Keep up the good work luke.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks!

[@kylevancampen1425]

Great drum kit

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks Kyle!

[@AUGarry]

Hi Luke, great tutorial, but can't open the file...is it still available?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hi Garry! Apologies, I moved it over to my website but forgot to update the link in this video description. It's updated now! Bear in mind though that the preset is for the original TD-50, not the newer TD-50X!

[@AUGarry]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks Luke, I have been trying to find a better snare sound for my TD27KV, and while your tutorial is for TD50's, I found your tips very helpful. Have you made one specifically for TD27's?

[@BobbyDMoore]

Thanks Luke! I just got the TD-50 and working through it - i'll certainly use this as a guide for snare. Do you have more videos to come for cymbals, kick, toms, etc..?? I especially need help with HH!!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

No problem at all, thanks for watching and hope it helps! I haven't yet but I will put it on the to do list! Unfortunately the hi hats will always be a little machine-gunny but I've had decent results with blending 2 together. Worth a try if you get chance!

[@davidcode83]

Hi new sub here. I'm getting the td50 this Sunday. Thanks for the great video and free gift. Seasons greetings!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Fantastic, hope you enjoy it mate! You're welcome, hope you get some use out of it! Don't be disheartened by the out-of-the-box sounds - you might like them, but most people are a bit underwhelmed with it (I was), but the digital pads are great and you can get great sounds from it if you persevere!

[@oaklandcountyrealestatecin4280]

I would love to see a video on the Mimic snares and how to get a great sound. It seems like a lot of the video's ive seen, the Mimic seems to have a 'thin' sounding snare. I'd love to get your take on getting a variety of snare sounds. I currently have a TD30 but considering an upgrade.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Sounds like a good shout, I'll see what I can do! I've done a video on achieving a snares wires off sound, a reggae snare and a timbale snare with the Mimic already if you want an idea of the versatility of some of the sounds, but a "thick" or "heavy" snare tutorial should be possible! Thanks

[@sierratrey]

I don’t own a TD-50. Or any Roland for that matter. I use a DTX502 chained to a DTX700. I stayed till the end because like you said; most of those settings can be applied. Albeit with different names. Now I’m off to create some snares. If I could only translate Roland to Yamaha. 🤔😂🤷‍♂️

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks for watching regardless! Hopefully some of it will make the leap over to a Yamaha!

[@sierratrey]

The eDrum Workshop it already has. Thank you for the great content!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Awesome!

[@coiLz0r911]

SIck. This is making me choose the TD 50 over the Pearl Mimic Pro I think.

[@Drumhits]

Hey Luke, your videos are very helpful and well done. Thanks for all you do for our drumming community - I'm in Chicago. I have a TD-50X and trying to recreate the snare sound from Alex Van Halen on the song Jump from their 1984 album. Do you have a download I can buy for that or any tips you share with me?

[@75thBeatle]

This super helpful. Will the linked kit work on td-50x?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hey! Glad you found it useful. Unfortunately the kit file won't work on the 50X, no - any kits made on the original software won't work on the X as the sounds and settings were all overhauled. Sorry about that! The 50X has many more "usable" snares than the original TD-50 software in my opinion though and I think it's much easier to get a good sound by layering different ones than it used to be.

[@75thBeatle]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop wow, thanks for the speedy response!

[@alkuha]

Great video, wondering if I can copy a snare sound I like from one kit to another and build a kit that way? On Roland TD50. Thanks

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I've got just the video! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5OXl5SNeZJ3jbs

[@alkuha]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop your response time/ informative answers are amazing!

[@ockidocki]

Great work! Would this be usable on a TD17KVX? Thanks

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks! Unfortunately, the same instruments aren't available between modules so the preset won't work with anything other than the TD-50 and I'm not sure exactly what snares and FX etc are available in the TD-17. The same kind of principles and approach should work on the instruments inside the 17 though, for sure!

[@ockidocki]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks for the reply!

[@laptoples]

I don't own a TD-50, I have the TD 27 and TD 17. I'm searching around to find different ideas to make great snares and how to utilize the positional sensing on the snare to get a better feel along with the sound. I basically want better rim shots !!!!! Hehehehehehe I feel like this is what I can't find. Although, my downfall is getting distracted, not finishing the sound I wanted to emulate, and just want to play the drums and not fidget around...lol I'm like a fuse that gets lit. I only have a few minutes of nerd time before I just start playing, so I never find what I'm looking for. Haaaaaaa I should disconnect the module and the snare and only have those 2 in front of me. Not kidding, I tied my legs together with my shoe laces and put my other arm in my pocket. That actually didn't work...lol First test, I wasn't satisfied with the snare, but that was it. Never stopped playing to fix it... That's the closest I got. I'm running out of options !!! Hahahahahahaha Thanks for the input though dude !!! Great drumming by the way ! Appreciate the tips ! :-)

[@paparaphatv]

how to use rimshot volume up?

[@veloci3twenty607]

1 year later how much dust is now in those fader slots???

[@3rdGen-Media]

Why you gotta call me out for not owning a TD-50? I wish the TM-6 Pro would support sending positional sensing data over midi.

[@groovexmedia]

BEEEER! Joking aside, great vids my man!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Aww man, you found me! Ahahaha! How's it going dude? Glad you're enjoying them!

[@groovexmedia]

The eDrum Workshop doing great :) I haven’t done a lot of remixes but still at producing. I found your channel just last week and really enjoy the production quality and the knowledge you provide! I’ll contact you via FB for some catching up soon ;) keep up the good work with your channel!!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Yeah, I haven't really been doing the remix thing too much recently either! Cool that you're still producing though man! Cheers dude! Absolutely, drop me a message some time!

[@fVNzO]

I see ya got tama stands for your cymbals i was thinking about getting some myself but wont there be problems with the cymbals swaying about? Did you manage to install rolands rotation stoppers or is it tight enough to not be an issue?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

The stands are a variety of different brands, but I am using the Tama quick set cymbal toppers on them all. Yeah, I just put the Roland rotation stoppers on these stands - they fit on pretty much any standard cymbal stand, whether 6mm or 8mm thread.

[@naskoboqdjiev1494]

Hi, I can't load the set

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hello! Have you followed the instruction PDF contained within the download? You need to make sure it is in the correct folder on your SD card and that you scroll up to the correct kit number on the SD card line (kit 101). You can email me if you need to, the email address is on my website or on the About page of my channel :) We'll work it out!

[@BobSchoepenjr]

As an owner of a TD 50 I totally agree that you have to know your gear in order to get a better sound than the factory sound. Very valuable advice you teached us! Grts from Belgium. Feel free to check out my YT channel.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks Bob, glad you enjoyed it! Absolutely - it's a bit weird out of the box but you can create some great kits with it once you get going! I'll check your channel out when I get chance!

[@BobSchoepenjr]

Hi buddy. I send your link to CHristophe Cools from Roland Benelux, he works closely with Michael Shack.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you for the support! 😀

[@campbellread1918]

bloody great, it still baffles me how shit the sounds are out of the box, just miserable, especially for a high end kit. Playability is top knotch though

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks! Yeah, it's crazy what is capable of vs what they actually show you with the presets!

[@hndrumsonline3704]

I’ve been using a combination of roland td 50k and td 25kv and it sounds awesome! Check out my channel and give them a listen. Your eq tricks have helped me a lot achieving my sounds.

[@thetruth156real3]

Why are kits costing 6000 sounding so shit, machine gunning is ridiculous.