Exploring Elder Scrolls: The Nine Divines

[@koyooko5160]

*Opens a random sack of rice, pull out a rock.* ANOTHER HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON.

[@foureuro5664]

Deviant meridia always loses her orb at like the meat market or riften orphanage

[@notinspectorgadget]

Oh I'm gonna do more than touch that beacon

[@michaelj.jackson5592]

@@notinspectorgadget w-what are you gonna do with that s-sir

[@Scotttjt]

Another of my shrines needs your aide, mortal. Behold, I shall mark its location upon your map.

[@DaddyVeo1911]

@@michaelj.jackson5592 my sweet little innocent bayboi. The horrors he will do are many indexed...

[@dovahkiinhowey]

"The Nine Say: Be excellent to eachother and party on dudes."

[@hollielear1254]

Yeah. Explains today's society Great 👍

[@ashleesheats9847]

@@hollielear1254 Ikr damn 😂😎🤣👍🏾

[@lonniedwayne9549]

@@hollielear1254 , I wish that was today's society. Lmao More like "Be rude to one another and live clinical". It's a reference from Bill & Ted though, if u didn't know.

[@aceshotz5051]

EXCELLENT! *cue air guitar*

[@Plinious]

If you need to travel at night, BY THE NINE DIVINES, stay on the road!

[@adeptusyagoncius2938]

The wilderness just isn't safe anymore. We've having sightings you see... the daedra.

[@notting2640]

Isn't Talos the representation of the missing god lorkhan, after all Talos DID mantled lorkhan..... and that's why the elves hate him so much.

[@rekaadang]

I see that you are a person of learning & culture.

[@Yujifanik]

4:55 "Diabella is the popularly worshipped of The Divines." I *wonder* why!?

[@Yujifanik]

da best o' da best They're quite a popular feature of art.

[@HickoryDickory86]

It might be those "Dibellan arts," but I'm not quite sure. Lol

[@MidoriOfTheShuinsen]

Tamriel literally has a goddess of sex. Why tho?

[@andyscustomstone7995]

I don’t get it

[@shrek6723]

@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen *WHY NOT*

[@IloveOtherPplsMsry]

Fun fact Juilanos is named for Elder Scrolls creator Julian LeFey

[@dutchpatriot17]

Fun fact: The other 7 are named after similar people. Only Talos is excluded.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Hjalti Early-Beard AKATOSH- Also Known As The Old Smaug Himself

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

twas a better time the time before the Deceiver came to power and sorrow started to creep into our hearts

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

@Human Resources todd howard

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

@@dutchpatriot17 Sounds like Elven propaganda but ok.

[@wehorak]

Is it just me or are the good gods/spirits/etc. always kind of absent in fantasy universes and the evil gods/spirits pop out behind every second rock?

[@gradh3123]

ES tends to be a very bleak universe

[@benarmstrong6904]

Haha so true

[@the_dropbear4392]

Eduard Horak Blame that on Lorkan, he tricked them and created Mundus as a trap, they didn't know that he was absorbing their power

[@MidoriOfTheShuinsen]

And then the 'evil' gods are the ones who give you powerful artifacts to help save the world. Tell me, who really are the 'evil' ones then?

[@Jimmy-yu1gu]

Eduard Horak they’re supposed to represent the creators of the game as a whole , thats why they’re absent

[@havoc6441]

You people need Talos in your lives.

[@rafaelstephen719]

HAVOC 😆😆😆😆😆😆 Y’all need Ruptga

[@griffin7700]

You guys are heritics I’m telling the Thalmor on y’all bitches

[@rafaelstephen719]

Griffin Black Well, Raguda (Hammerfell) is independent, so fuck them Thalmor

[@griffin7700]

Rafael Stephen you say that now until we invade your ass

[@rafaelstephen719]

Griffin Black 😆😆😆Well, too bad for them, if it the Crowns, the Forebears & the Lhutonics to stay united, force those recessive elves and their cohorts into a treaty again, they can try😁

[@tristanmosurinjon6177]

First video of 2018 good start to the year happy new year everyone.

[@EriqireM]

Gonna get complaints from Hawaii man

[@meddaredda9756]

Tristan Mosurinjon you too!!! ☺☺☺☺☺😀😀

[@josephjenkinsjr.2507]

Thing I find funny is that the Nords consider Kyne (their aspect of Kynareth) to the the wife of Shor (their aspect of Lorkhan), I wonder if the Imperials ever secretly adopted that part of Nord myth..?

[@JC_Denton_]

Before he was a god, Talos was the brainchild of 3 individuals: a young (breto-)Nord named Hjalti, an Ancient Nord Zombie Ghost King named Wulfharth, and later on an Imperial Battlemage named Zurin Arctus. Hjalti was Dragonborn, and after being proclaimed as such by the Greybeards, attracted the attention of Wulfharth. Wulfharth saw in him a vessel he could use to once again gain sway in the world of mortals and take revenge on his hated merethic enemies, most notably the Dunmer. So he lent Hjalti his power, essentially acting as a guardian aura that amplified Hjalti's skills and thu'um to incredible levels extremely quickly. Southwestern Skyrim was plagued by war with the Cyrods at this time. A Colovian warlord named Cuhlecain was in the middle of a campaign to gain. Hjalti was soon given command of Cuhlecain's forces, and the legend of General Talos began to spread. This is the beginning of the concept that would later become a god. A man who others think is a man but is actually more than one man. Now with the benefits of fame and notoriety, Hjalti began to attract the attention of other powerful figures of the time. One of them was Cuhlecain's. battlemage, Zurin Arctus. There isn't a whole lot formally written about the relationship between Hjalti, Arctus, and Wulfharth, but it's pretty safe to assume that before long Arctus was let in on the secret of the reality behind General Talos and how he could manage to be larger-than-life. Cuhlecain's forces won the war in Skyrim largely due to his invincible superhero general and eventually managed to take the Imperial City and consolidate all Cyrodiil under the banner of the man who would later come to be known as Emperor Zero. The campaign was over for now, but this was only the beginning of the legacy of Talos. Wulfharth had big plans for his protege, Hjalti was ready for anything the world could throw at him, and Arctus was eager to be in on the action, seeing a much more capable potential ruler than the current Emperor he served. Not long into his reign Cuhlecain was assassinated and General Talos was crowned Tiber Septim, Emperor of Cyrodiil. The official story after the fact is that Cuhlecain was assassinated by a Breton Nightblade as vengeance enacted by the High Rock aristocracy for their defeat in the battle for the Reach, and that General Talos' throat was cut while attempting to defend his emperor from the assassin. The apocryphical, and much cooler story, is that the assassination was an orchestrated power play by the three masterminds of the Talos legacy as a way to take control of the Ruby Throne. The part about the throat being cut serves a dual purpose. Not only does it serve to add credibility to the now-named Tiber Septim's innocence, butalso to allow the first real instance of Talos being more than one man. Busy with consolidating and stabilizing his rule over Cyrodiil, Tiber sends Wulfharth to take charge of the campaign to conquer the rest of Skyrim, High Rock, and Hammerfell. Wulfharth masquerades under the guise of the Emperor, but keeps a low profile and does not speak to reveal himself, explained away by the throat-slitting story. Regardless, this still leads to situations where the Emperor appears to be in more than one place at the same time, which further adds to the legendary mystique of Talos and his superhuman abilities. Anyway, once the lands of men are conquered and under the Imperial Banner, it's time for Wulfharth to go after what his eye has been set on since the First Era, and the whole reason he lent his power to Hjalti and Arctus in the first place: Morrowind. Both Tiber and Arctus are hesitant to indulge him however, unsure of whether they can truly stand against the power of ALMSIVI. Wulfharth is persistent however, tempting the Emperor with promises both of Vvardenfel's rich ebony reserves and that the power of the Tribunal once they're vanquished can be repurposed to aid in the taking of Alinor, a seemingly insurmountable target Tiber had never even had a plan to defeat. The original plan was for Arctus to act as a diplomatic emissary towards the High Elven Dominion and simply form a treaty of nonaggression. But Wulfharth wanted the blood of elves, and Septim wanted the blood of Lorkhan, and so the invasion of Morrowind began. But it didn't end as the Underking wanted it to. Afterfighting to a standstill with their armies, Tiber and Vivec decide to settle matters personally. It's anyone's guess as to what crazy shit actually went down in their encounter, but it ended with an Armistice. Morrowind kept its sovereignty as a client state of the Empire, payed tribute to Cyrodiil in the form of access to the ebony mines, and the Tribunal lived on as rulers of their domain. This made Wulfharth furious. The whole reason he involved himself in this affair to begin with was to obliterate the elves, and now his minions have subverted his wishes and gone behind his back to ally with his ancient enemies. He withdraws all the power he had previously been using to aid Tiber and Talos is now just one man with a wise and powerful advisor, the dynamic duo of Septim and Arctus. But here a temporary third player entersthe stage: Vivec, and he has a complete game-changer. See, Numidium's been sitting around in Morrowind this whole time and he hasn't had much use for it. So he offers it to his new ally as a show of good faith to use as he will. With the Brass God of the Dwemer on the table, suddenly Alinor doesn't seem so out of reach. Perhaps an Empire will finally rule all of Tamriel after all. The only thing left that they need is a way to power it, but the Heart of Lorkhan is off-limits. Arctus comes up with an alternative though. The soul of a Shezzarine should act as a viable substitute for the purpose they want to serve. And wouldn't you know it, he's got just the guy in mind. He designs a special soul gem dubbed the Mantella large enough to contain Wulfharth's soul. All that's left is to place the bait and set the trap. Tiber Septim calls Wulfharth to the Imperial City once again, claiming he's reconsidered and wishes to beg forgiveness and conquer the Dunmer in earnest. Wulfharth bites. When the trap is sprung and their intentions to soultrap him become clear, Wulfharth flies into a rage. Arctus succeeds in casting the spell, but Wulfharth blasts him into ash at the same time. They obliterate each other and their souls intermingle, Wulfharth going into the mantella and Arctus mixing with his ashen remains, what's left of him becoming the new Underking. The Emperor is the only one of the trio behind the Talos brainchild left standing, says "Well that worked out well for me," takes his prize and fits it into the Numidium. And this is where the power of the Divine first comes into play.When Tiber Septim powers up the Numidum with the Mantella, the souls inside it merge with the own part of himself he gives to it. The Numidium sees the history of Talos, this myth comprised of three individuals working together to create something greater than themselves, an illusion more powerful than any one man could ever hope to be. But the Numidium is not concerned with such trivial things as the limitations of reality. It takes all the things about Talos that had previously just been a story and realizes them, beaming them into the Emperor. Tiber Septim is no longer just himself. He sees the world in triple parallax, twice-dimensionalized upon his former point of view. Controlling his robot god, he conquers Alinor, the last obstacle, and gains absolute power. The Red King is now on the path to godhood. With nowar left to wage, he can now focus on improving the lives of his new subjects. He achieves CHIM. He reshapes Cyrodiil. He rules the Empire in an unprecedented age of prosperity for another 40 years, living to be over a century. The imprint the Three-Headed Emperor leaves on the Mundus is not one of a mortal man. Numidium saw to that. It took three and merged them into one. It took the illusion of Talos and made it a reality. Talos now presides over the world as a force of sheer power in emulation of the other Divine spirits of myth, not limited by death. There was, however, one loose end that remained. Zurin Arctus was not fully contained or destroyed in the Mantella. His mortal energy and life force was, but his consciousness remained separate and did not merge with Tiber like Ysmir did. Instead, he was bound to the now vacant ash of Wulfharth as an undead scourge, and swore vengeance on the Empire. But that's a story that can be read elsewhere.

[@devilkiller54]

Cori Travers ah the right answer

[@hermiliocarvalhojr.7208]

That was fantastically well written. Thank you very much for that read!

[@MR_Nickanator]

Wow

[@mrbarefootbogan6254]

Go write a book, don't waste your talent on youtube lol.

[@Williawr1]

Dude, you explained that better than anyone else I've ever heard. Thanks.

[@AlecEburhard]

The most interesting is Lorkhan/Shor

[@rekaadang]

I see you are a man of cultute

[@talosseptim592]

Couldn’t agree more

[@shadow-monger5189]

Certainly! He's like the true king, or anti-king, depending on one's perspective. But calling him the "God of Limitations" seems like the best to me.

[@magoschonkers711]

Praise be talos.

[@azoz-so5qr]

Shezzar

[@jaspr1999]

The missing Divine (Shor/Shazzar) is one I find very interesting. Even when not being acknowledged he's always conspicuously absent from The Hall of Valor during any of the games... Most notably in Skyrim, but there are strong indications he wasn't in the Hall during Morrowind or Oblivion either. Where was he?

[@Thorvelt]

I'm in love with this series. The lore is presented well and in an informative way. I hope we may get a video specifically expounding on the Alessian order and first Empire, as they seem extremely interesting and mysterious.

[@Red4Eyed2Jedi0]

Talos rules Thalmor drool

[@brosephnoonan223]

Red4Eyed2Jedi0 my man!

[@Red4Eyed2Jedi0]

Praise Talos!!

[@Svitlo37]

Talos being a God= Fake News

[@aarOuOn]

Talos is a war criminal and a false idol

[@aarOuOn]

idk, definitely not talos tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@rebelindian1326]

I am in love with this series... Its almost as calm as ASMR videos

[@slipinoy]

"Blessings of the eight divines upon you-" "For the love of Talos, shut up let's get this over with"

[@17Watman]

The very thing that proves that Talos is a god is the fact that you can receive his blessing at any of his shrines.

[@j2dragon109]

17Watman In Morrowind you could get blessings form the shrines of Dunmer saints, and they are most certainly not gods.

[@critter505]

And he was not the first mortal to ascend to godhood.

[@Ammoniumbicarbonat]

J2Dragon They we’re living gods though? If you went to their shrines after the events of Morrowind then they wouldn’t give blessings anymore I’m sure

[@ninjasheep7492]

In the TES games don’t gods receive greater power through people’s worship of them? So theoretically anyone who would be worshipped would gain semi godlike abilities

[@Geraduss]

You could have mentioned that Talos embodies Lorkhan in the pantheon and are in essence the same greater entity, and that is the real reason the Thalmore and by proxy elves, hate him.

[@saudade7842]

The Thalmor also want to weaken the Empire by denying him worship.

[@Super50ldier]

@@saudade7842 The Thalmor want to weaken the Empire or Talos?

[@saudade7842]

@@Super50ldier Both, Talos is the god of man and the Empire, weakening him weakens the Empire. He's also very popular in the Empire, and forcing his worshipers into secrecy pisses them off, leading to instability, with some Talos worshipers resenting the Empire

[@thorodinson2477]

Mara is the handmaiden of Kyne, who is Shor´s widow.

[@j2dragon109]

Thor Odinson Mara, Kyne and Dibella are all wives of Shor.

[@nekomochi486]

@@j2dragon109 Kyne is Shor's wife, Dibella is his bed-wife and Mara is Kyne's shield-maiden.

[@Super50ldier]

@@nekomochi486 Kyne is Shor's war-wife and Mara is his tear-wife in the Nordic Pantheon.

[@Joseph_G]

4:38: "Honour the Earth" shouldn't that be "Honour Nirn" or "Honour Mundus"?

[@zefft.f4010]

Earth literally means dirt, or maybe more accurately, soil. The thing from which crops grow. Nirn and Mundus are more astronomical terms. Thats my interpretation anyway.

[@AnomalousMats]

If you've got to travel, by the nine divines stay on the road! It's the Daedra, you see...

[@Akira-ck5dv]

Be seeing you.

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Akatosh is telling me to worship the nine! SO THAT INCLUDES TALOS!!!! THOSE NO HERESY!

[@TheFIoridaMan]

Holy shit people are debating this like it's real...

[@lsswappedcessna]

After all, Skyrim belongs to the Nerds.

[@nickbuchowisch7396]

Don't be a dumb ass this is just for fun.

[@radzilla748]

@@nickbuchowisch7396 is it really though..?

[@Hersonrock12]

Wait utill he hears about how much people debate on the bible lmao.

[@kurtorezar7924]

Gtfo of here then

[@SombreSpirits]

who was the son of kynareth that helped alessia?

[@TheExploringSeries]

That would be Morihaus, often described as a winged Minotaur. He's probably not actually Kynareth's son, but has some connection with her. He ended up having a child with Alessia and became a hero to the Imperials.

[@SombreSpirits]

alessia should have just fucked pelinal and have a cyborg baby lmao

[@the_dropbear4392]

SombreSpirits pelinal didn't have time for that, he was too busy ripping elven guts out

[@mrbarefootbogan6254]

WAIT WHAT, FUCKED Morihaus? That dude is like 40 feet tall... Ouch.

[@commando5872]

@@mrbarefootbogan6254 she likes big guys that's all

[@legendgamersnl3946]

Could you do a video about dagoth ur And the tribunal

[@Become-Eggplant]

Eight Divines, Nine Divines? Who cares? Worship Super Mega Ultra Chicken!

[@shrek6723]

*Ah, yes, the 69th divine.*

[@brandoncoulter-peterson7201]

The WINGED DRAGON OF RA

[@Artofficial1986]

This video shall invoke the wrath of Sithis

[@err0r0b0]

The statue of Talos and the statue of Akatosh bear a striking resemblance..

[@Svitlo37]

Heimskr, Prophet of Talos It is because Talos stole his divinity from akatosh.

[@jay15951]

Svitlo37 he took it from lorkhan/shore actually

[@err0r0b0]

Jay15951 It's speculated that the God(dess) Leki from Yokuda, is in fact Lorkhan/Shor

[@Geraduss]

Well since the cicles or kalpas repeat then the basics gods would repeat as well so every kalpa would have a "Lorkhan".

[@the_dropbear4392]

Jay15951 not took from shor, as Lorkan became shor, but shor is no longer lorkan. Talos became Lorkan but isn't shor. Shor and Talos are two separate beings

[@HectorJimenez-ee9zi]

Eight divines, then there's Talos

[@akrybion]

The worship of Talos is strictly forbidden!

[@brosephnoonan223]

P K you better check yourself before I wreck you, elf

[@hulkdynamite3305]

Dragon Born: Now now can't we just take care of the more pressing issues like the Dragons Heimskr, Prophet of Talos

[@emilkon]

Look, the stormcloaks think they're people.

[@emilkon]

No, because nords are still people. Stormcloaks, on the other hand....

[@emilkon]

da best o' da best No. You're not even people. What use are you, even? Who even cares about Nords?

[@eleanort.t.showbiz7207]

The end quote reminds me of: Cowboy advice 1. Be rootin 2. Be tootin 3. And by God be shootin But most of all Be kind.

[@Davlavi]

will you do other pantheons?

[@JurzGarz]

You should do full vids on each of the Divines, there’s so much more to tell!

[@weeklywizard8080]

“Kynareth sent her son” *Pelinal casually bathing in Mer blood*

[@iamnobody7044]

Actually they should be called "The eight and One" (lore friendly as it was the original name of imperial religion.) as Talos, the Ninth of the divines kinda joined in on the party... I was wondering, do you guys have your favourite skyrim deity? If yes which of the eight is it? (I excluded Talos, as he's ol' good Tiber himself and he is not one of the *original* deity. (he is still a god tho, and this comes from Imperial supporter. I hate Thalmor as much as Stormcloaks do, but they just help Thalmor unknowingly.) (Besides if I put him here those darn Stormcloacks would come and the thread would be covered with "Taloses". Or those high-elves would start bitching [goddamn Altmer players, bastards and whatsoever...]) My characters are always devoted either to the Arkay, or Julianos.

[@saudade7842]

Shezzar because he created mankind.

[@BronzetheGolden]

Shezarr and Shor for the Aedra. Azura and Sheogorath the Madgod for the Daedra.

[@Super50ldier]

@@saudade7842 Yeah

[@dark_fire_ice]

Thedas knows how to treat elf, Talos be praised

[@erikkr.r.m7380]

One of the coolest religions in fantasy

[@DracoMagnius]

I've always preferred the Deadric Princes to the Nine Divine. I don't know they seemed like the more fun bunch and aside from that their presence can be felt. They are active in the world and the 9 Divine well one could argue they don't exist at all. I feel like Sithis, Sheogorath, Merunes Dagon, and Molag Bal (to name only a few) have impacted the world more then the Nine (excluding Akatosh of course).

[@merrittanimation7721]

Sithis isn't a daedra

[@joeycash9739]

Draco Magnius How can you argue that the nine divines don't exist?

[@DracoMagnius]

Joey Cash The same way an Atheist can argue a God or Gods don't exist in the real world. Outside of Akatosh who showed up to fight Merunes Dagon what proof do we have the Nine exist? (btw not an atheist just saying their belief could be applied here)

[@DracoMagnius]

Merritt Animation Then what is he if not a Daedric Prince or one of the Nine?

[@merrittanimation7721]

The soul of Padomay, the primordial personification of chaos. Sithis is on par with Anui-El. The Daedra are more on par with the normal aedra and Lorkan.

[@kaijulord54]

10:10 You know Akatosh is the head honcho when he’s at the pantheon’s center.

[@outsidetheb.x2669]

What if Martin had become Emperor?

[@iasonchistoper288]

Garrett Fiddy Then Dagon would have smashed the world. Had he prevented his invasion then the 3rd era would live on.

[@jjjames4484]

Excellent vid! great way to start new year

[@josephnarvaez9507]

Tiber septim is Talos!

[@Altrantis]

Not strictly. Almost everything about Tiber Septim's life is a lie. Of his own making. It becomes evident when you start to consider wuulf, the underking, the mantella...

[@Altrantis]

Err, no. Unless you mean it is because it's a fictional universe, but that's not what I mean. Within the lore, the tale of Tiber Septim is a lie. Take a close look at the actual information we have about him.

[@TemujinTheKhan]

There are "individuals" named Talos in the Lore. I- Talos of Atmora is Ysmir Wulfharth not Tiber Septim. II- Talos the God- Tiber Septim + Zurin Arcuts+ Ysmir Wulfharth.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Temujin Tibre Septim aka Hijalti Early beard. But Wulfharth and Zurin also played the role of Tiber. Zurin in the court and Wulfharth leading the men in battle

[@TemujinTheKhan]

Iron Wolf Only Hjalti acted as Tiber. Ysmir was a "shadow" advisor.

[@anonymous689]

I think my chief deity here is Julianas

[@zeronova1484]

I've been waiting so long for this! *Talos* *be* *praised!!!!!!!!!*

[@billylyons7212]

With open arms with cheers and song with joy in my heart and tears in my eyes! Praise be to Talos!!!

[@sylviafloof5674]

5:11 Bluescadoo, we can too

[@fortifyjoy]

Thank you so much for making this video. For those of us who love lore!

[@nancydawson3870]

Wasn’t lorkhans heart used by vibes, amalexia and sotha Sil to become deities, thus killing the nerevar.This invoked the wrath of Azura, who then turned sotha sil into a dunmer, made vivec half and half, and left amalexia as the last chimer. Then she forced the nerevar to be reborn again and again until they killed the false gods

[@princenaemon]

Love this series. Out of curiosity, though, do you plan to do a video on the Tribunal? I know you touched upon it in both the Dwemer and Dunmer videos but in the latter, iirc, you chose to not refer to Nerevar's most trusted by name, but it's such a big part of the lore that I took it as a possible hint to a more comprehensive look on them later. Could also work by giving each of them a video, as Sotha Sil has his Clockwork City, Vivec has.... a lot, and Almalexia could also be covered, but I'm also not sure what material you consider canon and (forgive me, not much of a lore master) it seems like Kirkbride singlehandedly gave a lot to the lore in that aspect so it all depends...? Plus, it'd be more effort. I digress, though. Anyways, again, love the series. I love the lore of ES so much.

[@LuciferMorningstar-ep4on]

Akatosh is my favorite divine

[@goldenhero2504]

Oh fuck! While I was watching this and when it got to Talos and his picture I flipped! Because that looks exactly like a drawing of my father! No joke!

[@fVcker1]

You spread the word of the nine. I like you

[@ThePhantomSephiroth]

The fact that the different cultures all have different vision and interpretations of the same gods makes it more immersive.

[@saudade7842]

Yeah, like how the time gods (Auri-el, Auriel, Akatosh, etc.) are all aspects of Aka.

[@navilluscire2567]

I dunno I've always found this part of the lore kinda meh...I feel like it's been a greatly missed opportunity for atleast half of the races and cultures to have unique unequivocal gods that don't so jarringly fit in with the 9 divines of the late 3rd cyrodilic based empire as 1 to 1 counterparts. like take the Yukkodan pantheon and its many, MANY gods, literally there's a god for everything from the smallest of actions to the broadest of Yukkodan concepts and while you could arguably make comparisons with some of the deities in the pantheon attempting to match them to there supposed counterparts in the 9 the fact is the Yokkudan gods don't perfectly align with the 9 on purpose to break up the usual cookie cuttering of religions (looking at you Khajiit gods!) with slightly different spelled names of the same gods was one of the things that stood out for me. I just personally found this to be the weakest and more disappointing parts of the lore, not that I don't mind cultures sharing similar deities as like the OP said it's a neat concept to explore all the numerous ways different cultures interpret a contextualize the possible same gods in new lights or narratives but must EVERY religion on Tamriel have the same 9 or so gods just with slightly different names and roles, I don't think it has to be and it in my opinion ads much needed variety when you can't make easy comparisons of gods from different cultures and pantheons, sure they might have similar spheres or portfolios but the need not be the same characters or stories. *Oh! And for the love of Mara Bethesda, the next time you introduce a new religion can you NOT make them either equivalents to the 9 divines AND the Deadric Princes, Would really appreciate the breaking from tradition. Just try and come up with gods that do NOT perfectly align to these old established ones, make some unique but contextual (as in don't make weird gods just for the sake of weird gods without context ofcourse) for new (why not really?) and or underepresented cultures! (mentioned in lore) And please NO more gods from different pantheons with slightly different spelled names to their counterparts for Arkay's sake! (some can still have deities from respective cultures that share similar traits and roles but just have totally different names please!)*

[@Super50ldier]

@@saudade7842 Auri-El and Auriel are the same deity.

[@Super50ldier]

@@saudade7842 You mean Auri-El, Alduin, Akatosh etc.

[@skadihuntress]

tbh talos shouldnt be banned from being worshipped, but he isnt a real god, he is a mortal, he died. Also he invaded many places which is a bit shitty

[@computerassistedbiological5391]

Skadi Talos is a god as during the Oblivion Crisis the blood of a divine was needed and the blood on his armor was sufficient.

[@erickgarcia6494]

Cool. thanks for making this.

[@drspoosh17]

Love your content!!! Keep it up!

[@statealchemist000]

Glory to the Nine Divine!

[@gyronnax]

i always though that Auriel is a snow elven god of light and sun whenever i roleplaying skyrim during my gameplays as one of the 10 divines

[@18wolfspirit]

Why is Stendarr the enemy of lycanthropes and the undead?

[@the_dropbear4392]

Luke Johnson mercy, justice and law. So his followers bring justice in Daedra worshippers who are breaking the law, expect the Dunmer

[@MrNotagoodtime]

You know that the original god is most likely the main antagonist I. Tes6

[@ShaDOWDoG667]

"Life..." Is like a box of chocolates.

[@thelastfeelbender]

Epitoma Rei Militaris You never know what yer gonna get

[@rocketsofly]

I think you mean Eight Divines 👏

[@justiciar1964]

So many heretics, so few destruction spells to kill them with. :C

[@denysvision]

Talos is a god as well, so they are nine

[@sam_humanvariant]

You should do the same thing for Dragon Age 's Dalish or Elvhen pantheon

[@microwavetrash2501]

Martin: the most epic name of all

[@corbinboyd2473]

microwave MARTIN!!! Destroyer of gods!

[@falseking9159]

Akatosh vs Jyggalag?

[@lsswappedcessna]

nah, Sheogorath. CHEESE! FOR EVERYONE.

[@billygerter5568]

A lorhkan vid would be cool

[@Ammoniumbicarbonat]

Blessings of Julianos upon ye

[@Kampfwageneer]

Nine worthies of medieval era

[@gamer-KDB91]

Great video man very informative I loved it

[@alexmarsh8464]

“Kynerath” KYNE!!!

[@jasonkrueger9598]

"Mighty" Talos.

[@justiciar1964]

Mighty bad breath.

[@seekersoftruth1057]

Akatosh? azathoth? Coincidence?

[@thomasboland540]

*watches as classical music plays in the background*

[@darkshadows6328]

I’m currently worshiping Molag Bal and Nocturnal

[@arthegor]

Zenithar looks like a Dacian citizen from IRL with that Cap on his head. To be fair Dacians where the most honest and trustworthy of the Thracians in all things Commerce Craftsmanship, trade etc seems legit from where they took the Pantheon from which is very different from the Greek / Roman / Germanic / Viking etc... specially Zalmolxes which can be associated with Talos

[@elmerjfapp5730]

i only play as argonian to get those sick ass poison immunity and water breathing benefits. so this is unrelated to my struggles against the goblins. also why the hell weren't there goblins in skyrim?

[@krakgame]

They hate the cold of skyrim

[@Srksius2802]

When will you turn to examining political factions? I'd love to see a video for each of the Dunmeri Great Houses.

[@howdidmynamechange945]

talos wants to protect everyone including elves, yet the elves throw his name to the dirt

[@roybrewster1837]

Have you considered doing a Dragon Age series, like Elder Scrolls it has a rich and deep backstory?

[@the_dropbear4392]

Roy Brewster No where near as deep though, but still interesting

[@aumatomos7811]

"Many foreigners worship the Nine as gods. They have divine power, like the Daedra, but they are not worthy of worship. Some are better than others, but non are trustworthy." - dissident priest

[@stannisbaratheon6637]

I wouldnt mind exploring Mara if you know what im saying.

[@josephwilles29]

Shimada Senju I'd get behind Almalexia myself

[@commando5872]

Both of you need talos

[@bryanmanuel4945]

I see you are a man of taste and culture you say nine divines instead of eight you know the truth that our hero and saviour of mankind Talos he who became god and who his descendant Martin Septim became one with Akatosh to save us from are sins we are not worthy of your gifts great Talos.

[@cody8938]

Does anyone agree that Tiber Septim looks like Russel Crow from Gladiator? 6:24

[@YouTubeisgettingworse.]

The one true god is Akatosh!

[@QuinRaySquakamole]

Videos not boring but if you just want the discussion on the divines and not history, it starts at 2:52

[@pass6749]

*By* *ThE* *nInE* *dIvInEs!1!!!*

[@Swimmer-ts6yr]

PRAISE TALOS

[@hannukah4410]

I may be a little late to the discussion, but in the video you mentioned Talos as "deific form of Tiber Septim". That is partially true, for Tiber Septim or Hjalti Early-Beard ("of High Rock", or "of Atmora", accounts vary) as he was originally named, was named "Talos Stormcrown" by his norse companions after the battle of Old Hrol'dan. Talos (the divine) however, is most probably comprised of three people: Ysmir Wulfharth, Zurin Arctus and Tiber Septim. While it's all guessing, since we have no actual sources besides "The Arcturian Heresy" and events of "TES II Daggerfall", this is only most probable theory. Anyway, exact history of those three and the founding of the Third Empire would also be a great material for another video. Not a lot of people actually include mentions of Ysmir and Cuhlecain while talking about Hjalti and the Tiberian wars.

[@hannukah4410]

Forgot to add Kirkbride's fanfiction as a source, but then again, he's not a very credible source.

[@hannukah4410]

Also, both Ysmir and Hjalti are believed to be Shezarrines, Arctus may have been one too, which makes Talos (the divine) technically Lorkhan, which is the reason why the Thalmor outlawed his worship after the Great War.

[@Wiebejamin]

Why'd you not bring up Akatosh's bow that you get in the Dawnguard questline?

[@hiss9989]

Life. Beauty. Love. The nine divines. Me: What?

[@Countdooku97]

pray to stendarr if you can

[@HickoryDickory86]

If the Empire really wanted to stick it to the Thalmor, they could have left it Nine Divines and just replace Talos with Shor. It would fulfill Alessia's own desires and be a spit in the face of the Aldmeri Dominion, but not at all in violation of the White Gold Concordat. It only singles out Talos. It would also have placated the Nords, I'm sure.

[@HickoryDickory86]

@@Super50ldier No, they don't. Not officially, and not even really unofficially. He is acknowledged on paper, in history, but you never see anything about Shezarr in official Imperial religion, and he has no place in the Divines. As it is, he is entirely forgotten and abandoned among the Imperials. But you can just copy and paste what I said, but replace Shor with Shezarr, and my point would still stand. It would be a good move for the Empire to remember an historical deity of Men, it would fulfill a desire of Alessia herself, it would infuriate the Thalmor while not violating the Concordat, and it would likely placate the Nords. And since Skyrim (strangely) has adopted the Empire's pantheon over their own, the Nords there could contextualize it to their own cultural context and worship him as Shor.

[@HickoryDickory86]

@@Super50ldier The Nords still worship Kyne, but do so via her Imperial aspect, Kynareth. But neither the Nords nor the Imperials worship Shor/Shezarr any longer. You may find a few scattered about here and there, but he's mostly forgotten by both groups on the whole, in the main, what have you. Shezarr may have been a major deity of the Nedes once upon a time, ling ago, but with the founding of Alessia's new Imperial pantheon (which is the Eight/Nine Divines), he was set aside and eventually neglected, forgotten. He is not worshioed or venerated in any official capacity and so is not a part of the Imperial pantheon, no matter their history. Because Shezarr/Shor was the God of Men, he was cast aside in favor of a new deity, Akatosh, whom Alessia created by synthesizing the Nordic Alduin with the Elven Auriel. This way, the constituent parts of her new empire, both Man and Mer, could equally be represented by their new chief deity and neither side could lay sole claim to him. She could not elevate Auriel, because he was an exclusively Mer deity. She could not elevate Shezarr, because he was an exclusively Man deity. So, she blended together two different deities from both cultures. After that, Shezarr's cultus among the Nedes and later Imperials continued to wane and dwindle until it died out completely. Either way you slice it, regardless of the Imerpials' history or origins, they have abandoned and forgotten Shezarr.

[@the_dropbear4392]

If she was preying to the Nord deities, wouldn't she have preyed to Kyne

[@lpcorporation1]

More I think about about it, more i realize that the hole Elder Scrolls series it's like an occultic library.

[@Thrillin_Chillin_Drillin]

Julianos is the Jesus of Nirn

[@andyscustomstone7995]

I just wanted to know where u find them buh okkk

[@emilkon]

I think you mean the eight divines, and the one great man.

[@sofiaparr8553]

Masta Emil faithless imperial

[@brosephnoonan223]

I can see how a child born under the wicked shadow rule of the Thalmor might misconstrue Talos' ascension to godhood as myth, as he truly was a LEGENDARY figure. A GIANT amongst men, and the FATHER of our empire. But trust in the words of Heimskr, if he were a mere man his works would have died with him and if the Thalmor had their way it will. But they will never win... Legends never die.

[@emilkon]

Heimskr, Prophet of Talos Actualy, like many Altmer, I was born before his unification of Tamriel. And all I remember is him using a ancient god machine to preform elven genocide upon our island nation while cowardly hiding in his palace in cyrodiil.

[@Geraduss]

Ascension of Talos is the rebirth of Lorkhan under a new name! The true hero god of mankind! The God Emperor if you will.

[@marloyorkrodriguez9975]

Sigmar protects us! Oh sorry wrong comment I'll just go to the warhammer section just across the black panther section

[@AcheLone]

i didn't remember encounter an aedra directly in game.....its either from quest and artifact....am i wrong?

[@the_dropbear4392]

AcheLone Oblivions ending

[@AcheLone]

akatosh manifestation fighting mehrune dagon?

[@bryanmanuel4945]

Well their is just artifacts and the oblivion ending.

[@Super50ldier]

@@the_dropbear4392 That was Martin, who transformed into an avatar of Akatosh not the god himself.

[@caligula2529]

Down with the blasphemy

[@quigongym5206]

Talos was second era he was a war general

[@computerassistedbiological5391]

_ Son of Pepe But he became a divine in the 3rd era.