Exploring Elder Scrolls: Vivec

I know I really didn't cover alot of the stranger side of Vivec, especially the contents of the 36 lessons, but I think this is a decent overview.
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[@clan741]

Vivec, a powerful mortal, and also one of the most confusing cities to navigate through.

[@slendy9600]

Ive played this game since I was less than 10 years old, Ive logged thousands of hours in no doubt, and i still get fuckin lost :P

[@blackvial]

Yep

[@mehujmehuj2229]

Andrew Lowery I hate them both to be perfectly honest.

[@marcooosbibendorsht1334]

True, true

[@TToxicom]

XD true

[@madscientistshusta]

"Lets talk about vivec" Oh my friend we simply do not have enough psychedelic mushrooms for this.

[@Nonamearisto]

Those actually give visions of a machine elf. Sotha Sil is the one closer to that sort of thing.

[@patrick5270]

You know....I think next time I try shrooms, imma listen to Double Negatives 36 lessons of vivec.

[@princenaemon]

The fact that Sheogorath threw a fucking . . . .. damn METEOR at Vivec City for shits and giggles never fails to make me laugh. I mean. Have you seen how that city is laid out? I'd try to obliterate it too.

[@someguy2986]

tyranny Yeah, my mentor was... unpredictable as a nice way to put it.

[@Amo-v27]

Technically, it'd be a meteorite. Difference being, a meteorite is a meteor that successfully enters the atmosphere without shattering completely and manages to strike the ground. Was Vivic City destroyed by the impact or the volcanic eruption of Red Mountain? If it was the former, then there was likely a decent amount of metal (Fe in most cases) inside its core, rather than simple rock and minerals.

[@loooongneck]

@@Amo-v27 the impact of the meteorite caused red mountain to erupt

[@Ninjaananas]

@@Amo-v27 Would it not be better to say that a meteorite is a meteoride that reached the ground and a meteor is a meteoride that perished in the atmosphere?

[@essex3777]

Are we sure that Sheo didn't accidentally curse the architects and city planners and just sent Baar Dauto to cover up his tracks?

[@sir3543]

Vivec, From a street thug to a living god.

[@johndoe-nutz2980]

@@Vethalon he's gotta paginis

[@keenwilliams2204]

From Thug Life to Apotheosis

[@janusz_pies3194]

and back

[@willwrightcreatorofsims9813]

I fucking love Sheogorath. He just casually sends a meteor out of boredom.

[@dracozulka8253]

you missed the fact that vivec slept with molag bal for 88 days and then bit of his manhood transforming it into his legendary spear

[@MrTigracho]

So that's explains why a certain youtuber I saw reviewing the game said that the nerevar was killed by vivec's giant penis sword.

[@b3at2]

He skipped a lot of shit. maybe you can do a better video.

[@samsonthemanson]

Also when he had to go for a while he left his head and basically said "do your thing homeboy"

[@lawindacera7219]

@@MrTigracho hey hey people

[@Nod_Lucario]

I think we know why Molag Bal invaded Tamriel in the 2nd Era now. So he would eventually be defeated, reform, and get L'il Molag Bal back.

[@Co27Enigma]

“Vivec disappeared, never to be seen again.” Unless the Nerevarine killed the bastard after he gave him Wraithguard. #DragonbreakCanonEvents

[@b3at2]

I know for a fact i went back and killed him.

[@purplepaladin7662]

I know I kill him every time I play

[@shadysam7161]

All I did was throw him into the Void.

[@MsBluesMan95]

To me Vivec and the tribunal are some of the most interesting characters and also some of my favorite in all of elder scrolls lore

[@billfred9411]

Its Michael Kirkbride's writing your referring to. He wrote some of the most interesting lore in the series. He clearly took a lot of inspiration from hp lovecraft. He also has some good elder scrolls universe books but some of his writings can't really be considered cannon. He came up with the idea of the elder scroll universe all being a dream of a higher being called the godhead. It's pretty much the reason you have a chance to zero-sum when achieving chim. To achieve Chim you have to partially wake up from reality basically becoming a god but if you fully wake up from reality you zero-sum and will blink out of existence cause you fully woke up from a dream that isn't yours. Its similar to Azathoth from hp lovecraft.

[@billfred9411]

wow i really should have watched the video before posting. The vid pretty much said everything i said and i'm just an echo

[@opannefrank1986]

Who cares?

[@OGStarlightKY]

@@opannefrank1986 Shut the fuck up.

[@ghostwarrior3878]

Agreed

[@cinnamontoast9999]

With Morrowind, Todd Howard himself said their plan was to go for a, “stranger in a strange land” feel to the game. In my opinion, I think they need to bring that back in The Elder Scrolls VI. Oblivion and Skyrim were both great but felt too relatable to common fantasy, for example, the towns/cities all had more of a European feel to them like Vikings in Skyrim or the Roman Empire in regards to the Imperial Legion in Oblivion, very cliche fantasy settings. Morrowind stood out much more to me because of the landscape, the unique plants and animals and most importantly, the architecture and culture of the Dark Elves has always been very original to me.

[@MisterBones2910]

'IV' is four, you're looking for 'VI' for six.

[@devilfruit3415]

Morrowind was strange because in lore it is a crazy place black marsh would be similair to that but skyrim and oblvion didnt do anythinf wrong be being too relatable they where after all lands inhabited by mainly Humans

[@cinnamontoast9999]

Mister Bones fixed it 👌

[@SomeKindaSpy]

Totally agreed. I'm sick of basic-ass western generic fantasy. Get WEIRD with it again.

[@Sul_Haren]

If you saw Kirkbrides Concepts for the other provinces, they're just as strange. If Kirkbride wouldn't have left, TES might still have the weirder, unique lore

[@CalamityDiamond]

WHAT ABOUT THE PART WHERE HE BANGS MOLAG BAAL?

[@rezahydra]

Yeah... Vivec did a lot of weird stuff. Explains why he didn’t cover those. Something you two would know if you read the description. The door is behind you.

[@bingus9651]

Door?

[@DerLamer]

It's also implied in some texts that he raped Nerevar as the ALMSIVI murdered him. Lots of spear metaphors.

[@SwankyKitteh82]

With their spears that are also their dicks?

[@tortellini4686]

If Vivec is involved in anything expect it to be fucked up somehow.

[@MisterBones2910]

WHAT A GRAND AND INTOXICATING INNOCENCE

[@billfred9411]

HOW CAN YOU BE SO NAIVE? THERE IS NO ESCAPE. NO RECALL OR INTERVENTION CAN WORK IN THIS PLACE.

[@WilliamnotW]

I'M A GOD. HOW CAN YOU KILL A GOD?

[@WarMonger_the-One-and-Only]

IS THIS HOW YOU HONOUR THE SIXTH HOUSE, AND THE TRIBE UNMOURNED?

[@VivaCristoRei9]

LAY DOWN YOUR WEAPONS, IT IS NOT TOO LATE FOR MY MERCY

[@b3at2]

Morrowind was amazing... skyrim is trash compared to it.

[@MagaldiMateus]

Vivec of the three in one had a lot of "adventures" that Im sure you could not tell in youtube.

[@pianoluver1222]

Mateus Magaldi His marriage to Molag Bal is very... Interesting 😂

[@the_dropbear4392]

Elendil Anduril and non canon

[@pianoluver1222]

Iron Wolf still interesting lol

[@Limrasson]

Just watch Sseth's take on Morrowind...

[@nacurit]

I notice you didn't mention a certain spear ;)

[@moiserares6974]

Now you have 36 likes, the holy number of vivec.

[@Nod_Lucario]

I think we know why Molag Bal wasn't called Molag Cok.

[@umedyn8371]

This makes me what to play Morrowind again, It had such a great lore and an alien yet weirdly familiar atmosphere.

[@Moerakski]

The meteor was made of cheese. Deepest lore confirmt. Sheogang4liv

[@rezahydra]

@Moerakski #NiceMeme.

[@harveh8669]

headcannon accepted

[@woodlefoof2]

no, it was made of purple

[@Lenn869]

did you know that in order to write the 36 lessons of vivec, michael kirkbride ate a bunch of magic mushrooms and got fucked up on LSD, then locked himself in his apartment for a week?

[@TheExploringSeries]

Sounds about right.

[@dalton411970]

Lenn Why am I not surprised?

[@jmm1233]

Its the phillip k dick way

[@Atomastos]

Where did you learn this? I want to know more.

[@CallingCrowe]

It was a bottle of whiskey, not psilocybin mushrooms

[@corvuscorax9028]

the ending of the video is ALMSIVI

[@jam34786]

Dagoth Ur did nothing wrong.

[@Srksius2802]

Fuck the Dwemer. They're elven neckbeards.

[@BigUriel]

He only inflicted thousands of people with a horrible incurable disease that turned them into mindless deformed monsters.

[@DeltaPhoenix180]

I love you, internet, never change.

[@drippinwet774]

Yep. He and Indoril were stabbed in the backs.

[@toadfaceass]

jam34786 Our Lord and Saviour Dagoth Ur

[@ian4594]

As someone who has logged thousands of hours into skyrim and ES games alike, I recently found this channel via the exploring H.P. Lovecraft series. The series was fantastic, and gave me a great understanding of the lore before I threw myself into the world. I just now found out you have a series on ES and I have been learning of ES facts I never even knew existed by merely playing the games. Excellent work man, this channel is a gem.

[@Kiiw3y]

You left out a lot of important information, or had some information incomplete: -Vivec was born from a mix of a Chimer woman and a Dreugh -The three advisors swore to Azura, which makes their breaking the oath that much more serious -Dagoth Ur was not called that at the time, his name was Voryn Dagoth of House Dagoth -Vivec banished Azura by utilizing CHIM, a state of existence only achieved by him and the enantiomorphic entity Talos - You barely talked about anything from the Sermons. The only things you mentioned from it was his youth and his fights with the Daedric Princes -I'm pretty sure the Ghostfence had some importance as well

[@reidparker1848]

Lord Zelfmoord CHIM is plausibly deniable, and because it ruins the Elder Scrolls, I reject it. Keep Kirkbride's self-indulgent bullshit out of TES. Just play the games and enjoy the lore that doesn't read like a bad acid trip.

[@nolderine]

@@reidparker1848 Sounds like an awesome trip to me . All I get is bizarre fractals and paranoid thoughts about being gay :(

[@Ken-df8cp]

An elf and a dreugh? I shudder to think about that

[@daddysmurf2266]

wait what, how did vivec banish azura, she is a daedric prince, they have bean banished from the mortal plains since forever

[@bignwah6905]

@@reidparker1848 CHIM is canon Mankar Cameron mentions it in his commentaries so do the 36 lessons of vivec and the trials of vivec in Morrowind Tholer Saryoni mentions vivec obtains CHIM but he says he doesn’t know what it is. CHIM is canon. Hell the best writing out of TES comes out of Kirkbride the books he wrote are the best in-game The 36 Lessons of Vivec Aedra and Daedra The Annotated Anuad Arcturian Heresy The Changed Ones Children of the Sky Five Songs of King Wulfharth The House of Troubles The Lunar Lorkhan The Monomyth Mysterious Akavir Sithis Spirit of Nirn, God of Mortals The True Nature of Orcs Varieties of Faith in the Empire Vivec and Mephala The Warrior's Charge Where Were You When the Dragon Broke? The Adabal-a Before the Ages of Man Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes Remanada Shezarr and the Divines The Song of Pelinal

[@TheRealCHIMShady]

A video about me?

[@christiancristof491]

Please, stand up. Please, stand up. N'waaaaah.

[@JXEditor]

Shouldn't the "H" be lowercase? ChIM

[@timhuisman2495]

Yes lord vivec

[@harveh8669]

TRAITOR! LIAR! FALSE PROPHET! I THOUGHT I KILLED YOU WHEN I DID A NON CANNON PLAYTHROUGH OF MORROWIND!!!!

[@harveh8669]

also your city totally sucks

[@martinseptimryden7272]

The depths of these characters sends a chill down my spine. Vivec has inspired me beyond words.

[@legendspug6625]

@@Speedd701 yes

[@gergelypinter8229]

This was great! Please do one for the biggest mind of Nirn, Sotha Sil!

[@omniburrito]

"hey let´s give power of this god machine to some weird guy in underwea" best idea ever.

[@nietzschesmoustache3585]

This is the kind of thing we're never going to get in TES again. Instead, we'll keep getting AAA generic fantasy titles with simplistic writing & gameplay. The quests keep getting more & more basic & repetitive. The game mechanics are cyclical loops. The games are visually fantastic, but that only covers up the lack of substance.

[@baronofbahlingen9662]

Nietzsche's Moustache This makes me so sad to read, but it’s true. I made my own sort-of fan game/map so I can continue to explore Tamriel and embrace its unique lore.

[@casualskeleman6377]

it’s a shame, since Kirkbride’s contribution is so engaging; would love to see C0da or morrowind’s flavor of ‘new weird’ ideas and aesthetics explored further

[@nerevar9867]

The tribunal wanted to use the tools and neravar was against this so, vivec stabbed him though the chest with his spear

[@brosephnoonan223]

>elves >being gods AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[@zurinarctus1329]

Go back to Atmora, n'wah

[@caramel7050]

Heimskr, Prophet of Talos n'wah

[@OokileyGMR]

YOU N'WAH!

[@brynhammond2930]

Heimskr, Prophet of Talos Filthy N'wah!

[@katnerd6712]

Vivec don't gotta explain $#!t. It's CHIM.

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

I knew I liked ESO when during the Vardenfell questline, Vivec, _who was dying from having his power siphoned away_ managed to *HALT A FALLING BAAR DAU* right in front of your eyes.

[@justiciar1964]

*In the lore:* Has a spear made out of his dick and can slay avatars of gods with it. Has unlimited power called CHIM, which is often used to retcon the series to fit the game and character or to shape entire landmasses. Basically an "I win" button. *In the actual game:* Throws one fireball with an oversized hit box, then attempts to punch you until you inevitably kill him with your daedric weapons. Growls like a wolf for some reason. Can be soul trapped for some reason too. Probably the same reason unarmored skill only works if you have one piece of armor.

[@princenaemon]

"It just works." -Todd Howard (also, the spear wasn't made out of their dick... more so molag bal's dick, iirc. making a spear out of their dick would be impressive, however)

[@justiciar1964]

I thought the mace of Malag Bal was Molag Bal's dick.

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

I liked Vivec. Were I him though, I'd have disposed of the meteor. Maybe safely place it somewhere. Would have saved a lot of trouble in the long run.

[@HellhoundIX]

Vivec didn’t get rid of it intentionally. He wanted it to be an eternal reminder of his power to the dunmer. A symbol of his love, but also a warning - that should they ever stop loving him, the meteor would fall. That was his thought process

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

Ragyo Kiryuin the Glorious God-Tier Waifu yeah, I know that. It's just not what I'd do. It's not a very loving act. Love me forever or this meteor will kill all of you and ruin Vvardenfell. Then there's how the Tribunal Temple makes a prison out of it. It pissed me off when I heard what happened to Morrowind because it made everything I did feel like it was all for nothing.

[@HellhoundIX]

Still, it was an efficient message for his followers, even if it didn’t appear “loving” to some.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Nicholas Morgan it would have been fine if someone didn't try to save their lover from being sacrificed to the machine keeping the moon floating. Apparently if you want to save the one you love, you should break the machine that's stops this from killing. Everyone

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

Iron Wolf Yes, because that's a totally unreasonable thing to do. It never would have happened if the meteor wasn't left there

[@barneystinson4289]

Not only did Vivec and the Tribunal Achieve Chim, but Vivec already knew that the Heart of Lorkhan wouldn't last. So, he found out how to achieve Chim without the use of The Heart Of Lorkhan, staying a God.

[@reidparker1848]

Father Dagon CHIM is plausibly deniable, and because it ruins the Elder Scrolls, I reject it. Keep Kirkbride's self-indulgent bullshit out of TES. Just play the games and enjoy the lore that doesn't read like a bad acid trip

[@Stormcrow113]

@@reidparker1848 Wow copy and pasted the same comment over and over again after being butthurt over this very small hardly influenced portion of elder scrolls lore?

[@Speedd701]

@@reidparker1848 Why are you so goddamn annoying? Why are you watching multiple videos on CHIM, the Tribunal and Vivec specifically, if you hate Kirkbride's work? You are one of those annoyingly cynical and boring bastards that just stroll about looking to get angry at something and bitch about it relentlessly.

[@chrisc884]

"imperial empire" *hnnng*

[@baronofbahlingen9662]

Chris C Imagine not referring to the empire by its dynasty lmao.

[@khosrow]

The ELder Scrolls lore is so much deeper than the games will ever be.

[@blazednlovinit]

Lol, you left out the part how Azura was banished with Molag Bal's weaponised junk.

[@rezahydra]

Huh? I think you got your scrolls mixed. Vivec banished Azura with the last of his power, and disappeared with her, eluding that he may have banished himself too. Plus, Molag Bol never had any deals like that in the lore. Clavicus Vile on the other hand...

[@princenaemon]

ReZaHydra Nope. OP is talking of the Sermons. Vivec married Molag Bal (possibly raped? Some say so, others consider it consensual....?), had children, caught Molag's dick off, turned his dick into a spear called Muatra, killed his children with the weaponized dick- I mean spear-, and... banished... Azura......? Muatra was Vivec's main weapon for a while, I guess, too? Some interpret the Sermons not literally, and vice versa, but either way, nope, he didn't get it mixed up.

[@rezahydra]

...Forgot about that. I was mainly thinking of the soul siphon made by Clavicus. But the main point is the same in both sides. Vivec banished Azura, and somehow, somewhere in all of that, disappeared. Thanks for the clear-up though.

[@blazednlovinit]

I think vivec achieved chim, so there is the mortal vivec's life and the god vivec's life. Like the mortal talos and the god talos had different lives (chim allows history to be altered by the new deity) for example the mortal talos will have known a cyrodil covered with jungles, on achieving chim he retroactively removed the jungles from the timeline, so he made it so they had never been there. I think achieving chim, combined with the poetic and weird person that he is, resulted in his god-life being poetic and weird as well.

[@lordsaladinns5973]

blazednlovinit I thought Vivec used the Dragonbreak from Numidium to change history, Hurling Disc and all

[@brocalfur]

Make a vid about the cheeses of Tamriel

[@STUV101]

8:00 That trial isn't actually canon and was never confirmed by Bethesda (the ones who own the intellectual property that is The Elder Scrolls) of it's legitimacy. To be quite frank: I don't think it should be canon for more than one reason.

[@reidparker1848]

STUV101 CHIM is plausibly deniable, and because it ruins the Elder Scrolls, I reject it.

[@smof1]

skyrim has the soul cairn, a dragon half god who can eat the souls in "heaven" and a mystic relm with books and tentacles. I'd say the games metaphysical nature is still going strong

[@the_dropbear4392]

The TES series may be drifting away from the stranger parts of the lore, but ESO isn't. The last two main dlc's were morrowind and its main story involved you helping Vivec. And The Clockworks City

[@princenaemon]

Yep. And even though it's Zenimax, I have hope that perhaps in the next game, however far off it is, we'll go back to the stranger parts of the lore. I'm tired of the generic fantasy worlds, tbh. ESO has done pretty well and I hope Bethesda takes from them and their present reception.

[@the_dropbear4392]

tyranny And now ZOS fucked up and made Alinor as generic as possible. Rather than the hypnotic twisting towers of crystal and glass, and buildings that look like they are made from insect wings (like Alinor is described in lore), we have a generic stone city

[@reidparker1848]

The_Drop Bear Keep Kirkbride's self-indulgent bullshit out of TES. Just play the games and enjoy the lore that doesn't read like a bad acid trip

[@gege0298]

@@reidparker1848 why would you complain about something that barely has any influence on the more mundane aspects of the elder scrolls, since that seems to be what you are interested in ?

[@Zackmillsx]

@@gege0298 i rarely read a book in game i only watch these videos, but judging from all the comments and videos ive watched regarding lore, im under the impression this kirkbride guy has tried to add a whole lot of lore (some or alot of which is contradictory to either itself or other canon lore) AFTER he left the company? if i'm under a correct assumption then fuck that guy there's more than enough contradicting lore already don't you think???

[@theryanjester7209]

I'd really like to know more about Sotha Sil because it's very difficult to find a lot of info

[@wiseferret4745]

I believe the giant meteor is lorkhans poop. Since he was cut in half, it would make sense that he would poop himself when he died.

[@elgatto3133]

He turned the city into a SHITTY AHAHAHAHA

[@Kilroyan]

this came at a perfect moment, just finished a playthrough of morrowind yesterday :)) probably my favorite game ever

[@samelpaso4433]

What are the sources to Vivec's youth in this video? I was aware of the hermaphrodite implication to his character, but I was under the impression that this was a product of his ascension to divinity, at his choosing...reflecting the dichotomy of Chimer Vs Dunmer aspects, in both his people and himself. After all, is it an accident that he is literally split down the middle by both Chimer and Dunmer characteristics? This gender and racial dichotomy are reflected in both his symbolic rape of Azura with Muatra (symbolic of his male aspect) and his sexual surrender (of his HEAD) to Molag Bal (symbolic of his female aspect). Obviously, none of these themes are simplistic in the least, but I don't know if his origin story is as simple as saying, "He was born a hermaphrodite..." I think, at the very least, he was either manifested, or manifested HIMSELF through the act of CHIM, to impact TWO (dual) of the most powerful (and dualistic) daedra in existence, in order to enact change. After all, isn't the very nature of CHIM to alter the very temporal EXISTENCE of reality, both presently and retroactively? So I propose that Vivec, following both his apotheosis to divinity and the split of his race from Chimer to Dunmer (enacted by Azura, herself) was to become the very symbol of what Azura had done to his race. He essentially preformed CHIM in order to make an example of Azura's transgression on his race, by making himself the symbol of that transgression, while meanwhile punishing her for it... And his status as a hermaphrodite was also a product of his CHIM (made both presently and retroactively), in order to rape Azura as a male (*representation of the CHIMer punished by her*) and his offering of his people's influence/confluence to Molag Bal, with his now female aspect (*representation of Dunmer reaping reward from Molag Bal*) in gaining MUATRA and his power that he conveyed on the now Dunmer people.

[@TheExploringSeries]

Mostly from this: www.imperial-library.info/content/what-my-beloved-taught-me

[@samelpaso4433]

No opinion on the fact that CHIM changes reality in the past, present and future? Thus making Vivec retroactively a hermaphrodite in a willing representation of the dichotomy of his race... There's a lot of lore I'm addressing in my comment. Any thoughts? I'm not so much saying you're wrong, as engaging you, an uploader of TES lore. Wondering if you have specific interpretations of your own? As usual, with TES lore, there are always many and more complex interpretations of the stories presented. Many under the surface or more than meets the eye. Especially when it comes to Morrowind lore, given the master-level fantasy elements at play and on display. I was first introduced to your channel with your Lovecraft lore videos, which I'm a big fan of. I'm just curious if you find any validity in Vivec's WILLING choice of his physical characteristics and actions in being a living representation of the Chimer/Dunmer folk, and giving consideration to his acquisition of Muatra from Molag Bal (from offering his "Head") and his use of CHIM and Muatra in raping/smiting Azura? I don't think there's any doubt he willingly chooses to appear both Chimer on one side of his body and Dunmer on the other... Thus, it might be safe to assume, he made his hermaphrodite qualities in conjunction/concurrence with these other dualistic features. All being achieved through his apotheosis and use of CHIM. (Also, I don't think there's just a coincidence in the name CHIM and the people's name Chimer.)

[@TheExploringSeries]

I mean, Vivec is certainly filled with representations of duality, of both the Chimer/Dunmer people and mortal/god. I know that he retroactively changed history so that he had always been a god, but to be honest, that's quite a bit to take in. That being said, that interview is apparently from a universe prior to Vivec becoming a god. If I had to say, I'd say he was born a hermaphrodite as a mortal, which helped shape his identity.

[@TheJLAMAR23]

Samuel Passow thank you. I am glad someone else actually knew that.

[@larsjuh13vk]

SOTHA SIL PLZ. I kinda know all about him already but still. Spread the word of the most amazing TES character ever.

[@DMisigoy]

Not sure you can say that TES is moving away from them. The last big release of ESO was for an add on of Vvardenfell with a main quest that centered on helping Vivec, and the most recent DLC is in the Clockwork City.

[@princenaemon]

I think he might've meant in the main series of Elder Scrolls, since he did show a picture of ESO Vivec at least once so he's aware-- and he'd be right in that, I think. Other than the Dragonborn DLC, they weren't touched upon too much in either Oblivion or Skyrim, which makes sense due to what happened in Morrowind but I just wish there was more on the circumstances of Vivec's disappearance.

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

"Vivec is my brother. He knows my struggles and I know his. That knowledge makes our relationship... complicated. To truly know someone is as much a curse as it is a blessing...he also suffers a kind of enslavement. Not unlike my own, in fact. Beauty holds the keys to his shackles. Beauty, and a love of great works. Great heights. His appetites are insatiable, thus his despair...a poet's despair. Vivec craves radical freedom - the death of all limits and restrictions. He wishes to be all things at all times. Every race, every gender, every hero, both divine and finite... but in the end, he can only be Vivec." -Sotha Sil

[@jacobwinter6954]

My favourite TES character, right here.

[@MaliciousMollusc]

Oh so Vivec was already half sexed from the start? I didn't know that...

[@yhorm9959]

TheSchmeister Nah he made himself into an Himafarodite before he obtained Godhood. It says it in the teachings of Vivec.

[@MaliciousMollusc]

Ah from absorbing the heart of Lorkhan?

[@princenaemon]

Sonny Megeary That's not what it seems to be like in... What My Beloved Told Me, I think it's called. It's of Nerevar meeting Vivec when he was a prostitute, and Vivec makes multiple allusions to being intersex. Depending on how he felt about his past, I'd say that's one of his possible lies written in his sermons (abt being born intersex or after absorbing the heart). (Edit: What My Beloved Taught Me, it's called. Vivec calls himself a "whelp-wench in (his) unders", and when Nerevar asks him the difference between men and women, he responds, "there is no difference with me.")

[@Lord_Deimos]

I wish Sheogorath succeeded in nuking Vivec city from orbit, fuck that place.

[@rezahydra]

*Said everyone.

[@JordanSmith-yi3ji]

Nw that youve fone Vivec, could you do a video on CHIM? Or the God Head Theory?

[@GT-wj3gl]

Jordan Smith you gotta cover CHIM first before touching upon the Godhead.

[@TheExploringSeries]

I've debated about whether or not to do one on CHIM, but now I'm leaning against it. Frankly I'm not really sure I understand it myself, and I think it goes beyond the casual overviews that this series focuses on.

[@JordanSmith-yi3ji]

Yeah, it is QUITE the mindfuck that would require a big video.

[@TheKolboShow]

"CHIM. Those who know it can reshape the land. Witness the home of the Red King Once Jungled." - Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes, Book Three "Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter.' 'I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you" - Heimskr Those two in-game quotes from Oblivion and Skyrim describe CHIM far better than any video could, tbh

[@reidparker1848]

Jordan Smith CHIM is plausibly deniable, and because it ruins the Elder Scrolls, I reject it. Keep Kirkbride's self-indulgent bullshit out of TES. Just play the games and enjoy the lore that doesn't read like a bad acid trip.

[@TheZephyrsWind]

I wish the series would return to the strangeness of Morrowind & the earlier entries. I killed Vivec in Morrowind in one playthrough, meaning that I'd killed 2 of the tribunal & Sotha Sil was dead at Almalexia's hand. While Morrowind was my 1st TES game when I was 13 years old, my favorite was Daggerfall. Arena was fun too, but very unrefined as it was the 1st game. In Morrowind, I became highly immersed, reading every book, learning all the lore and such. It was sad to me when Oblivion and Skyrim didn't have nearly as many readable books or as much mystical stuff present. I greatly enjoyed creating large mods based on lore to expand on the game, letting players play through events mentioned in books. Those were fun times.

[@SuperBigOrlando]

The trial of vivec's canonity is debatable. But very well written video

[@wu1ming9shi]

I really tried to read the 36 lessons but damn it is one of the most messed up books i have ever read.

[@MultiWolf99]

There are no historical unaccuracies - Nerevar got murdered by the Tribunal; Dagoth Ur was faithful til the very end; ALL HAIL RESDAYNIA!

[@jimtaramas6081]

I would like for Elder Scrolls To make a turn toward its old metaphysical strangeness. Also, I have your say "Vivec Is really an awesome dude Playing games even with the daedric princes".

[@Archer-1453]

“Cannonicity” Same

[@h.plovecat4307]

It seems weird to call it the Imperial Empire.

[@blackvial]

Brain Stem Soup well the main race is called the Imperials and it's their empire

[@arawn1061]

blackvial well there is nothing called "imperials" in the lore. Those who you call imperials are actually colovians, nibeneyans and other

[@blackvial]

Aron Johansson so why are they called Imperials then?

[@TylerColbyWolter]

blackvial Because they are citizens of, or working for, an empire. What should have been said is either just "the empire", OR he could have said WHICH empire - Alessian Empire, Cyrodillic Empire, or Septim Empire

[@blackvial]

Tyler Colby-Wolter then why aren't the other races who are citizens called Imperials

[@the_dropbear4392]

Please keep these up you are so good, no one else seems to be making regular Lore videos diving into the full history

[@thatboisteve]

Finally, a video on him, I see none on KZbin really focused on my man vice

[@JourneyFontenot]

Can't say I saw much of this coming! I always thought that Vivec was simply always a God and always existed for lack of a better phrase

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Man becoming a god? Or, worse yet, nephilim becoming gods? (Sigh)... excuse me while I make room in my belly. I am gonna eat a blasphemer.

[@pingASS_]

Sotha Sil was a genius

[@Rex-The-Wolf]

I hate almalexia!! SOTA SIL IS MY SECOND MOST FAVORITE THES CARACTER!!! (Master nelot of house telvanni is ofc on place 1 :P)

[@cmason105]

Didn't the events of Morrowind happen in the third era?

[@TheExploringSeries]

Yes, but Dagoth Ur first reappeared in the second era.

[@Elserag96]

vivec was molag bal b*tch he didn't fight molag bal and this is why you don't see any dolmen in vivec city, Great video Btw i hope we see vivec in Elder scroll 6

[@Faus4us]

I remember meeting Vivec. I didn't know some of this information. Thanks!

[@BeauKillaB]

You didn’t mention ESO, in the Morrowind expansion you can do missions for Vivec.

[@caramel7050]

Potato swagmasta Even if it is, ESO's broken lore and horrible representation of Vehk shouldn't be considered canon tbh.

[@bignwah6905]

@@caramel7050 ESO explores the metaphysical aspects of the lore debatably more than any other TES game and they represented Vivec very well. See in TES 3 Vivec was a lot more dark and solum that reflected the state of Morrowind. In ESO Morrowind is in a much better state and Vivec is cheerful and has a general brighter mood. And why would they want to represent Vehk? Vehk the mortal died long ago.

[@_Nsath]

Do you ever plan on doing a video were you discuss the more metaphysical aspects of the Elder Scrolls?

[@teacherjohn_stoic-dreamven7373]

I'm actually sure that the "Fortify atribute + Soultrap on self" spell-combo is canon to Elderscrolls, and not a glitch. Sounds like Necromancy mixed with Restoration and Alteration. Probably explains what happened to the Dwemer. :P

[@rezahydra]

Vivec is very interesting. But I want to put this out there; He disappeared “with” Azura’s banishment. It never says after, before, or when entirely other than the next line stating his disappearance. So, mortal, I ask you this: did Vivec die? Did he squaller in pain and suffer? Or did he raise to power with the traitor of your people? Did he go to a never-ending twilight? Or was it both?

[@NotSaddamHussein]

he chillin with nerevar in akavir, banging snake vampire people with his molag bal weaponized junk and his own junk and shit

[@p.samedi2473]

Well, after turned into a Vampire by baal himself he keeps on eating people. In one or the other way.

[@UnChatCoquin]

2:33 I heard the Minecraft death sound

[@lamebubblesflysohigh]

Vivec and Dagoth Ur are one of the best characters in gaming history period. Vivec alone has more depth than entire Skyrim (the game).

[@sethleoric2598]

Oh Vivec, the Mer who bangs hid way through all his problems

[@GothelGrigore]

Oh Vivec, the man and woman who couldn’t keep his spear in his pants.

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

Sheogorath: **Notices Morrowind is a burning hellscape** "Did that dumb rock I toss finally hit the ground?" Daedra: **Nods grimly** Sheogorath: "Ha!"

[@lopiklop]

I think this is probably the best video on vivec, hits all teh bases

[@bettya.k.abetty8259]

I love Sheogorath's sense of humor

[@jmm1233]

so wants Vivec and Tiber to return to help the player again they made the best friend duo

[@garrettord3304]

The second half of this is incorrect: The Nerevarine killed Vivec and stole his soul after retrieving the 3rd tool, and used that soul to enchant his right pauldron (which he obtained by murdering Divayth Fyr). He then went on to loot every treasury in the city.

[@frozennugget1157]

Garrett Ord Divayth Fyr made clones of himself didn’t he? Those we’re his 4 daughters 1 of those names being Alfe Fyr

[@syrenasketches6902]

Ty for the art feature. Love Vivec.

[@Andisilva88]

I was hoping this video would mention something about Vivec achieving CHIM

[@vivecthepoet36]

Lore Hiccup: Vivec was something of a hermaphrodite, but Vehk probably wasn't as a mortal. Vehk's mortal backstory is likely different than Vivec the god's backstory, because of manipulation of events and CHIM; Vivec was Chimer and Dunmer because he was "Vehk and Vehk", and simultaneously Vivec, the god, who was loyal to Indoril Nerevar, and Vehk the mortal, who murdered Indoril Nerevar with the other conspirators within the Tribunal. Its possible to consider Vivec as something of a living Dragon Break.

[@gendor5199]

Revenge against Azura? What Revenge? You didn't say anything about revenge leading up to it. And why would Azura talk instead of Nerevar? Why couldn't he do it himself?

[@ObsidianAngiris]

Vivec was a crafty fucker, banishing Azura sure did a kick to her 😂 (banishing deadra greatly weakens them for a time)

[@reversejakhammer9301]

Elder scrolls 3 is where it started for me! I still spend some time playing it now and then.

[@rezahydra]

I entered backwards. Started with Skyrim, praised Oblivion, and I refuse to release my Steam Data on Morrowind.

[@MrHerrJonsson]

My biggest criticism of this video would be the order of lore being presented. In the middle, you mention how the Red Mountain erupted, but it's not clear unless you know the lore that this happens after the events of Morrowind and the Tribunal. This happens after the disappearance of Vivec, not during his precence.

[@chickensandwich6400]

I hope they shed more light on Vivec. I think he is alive possibly trying to regain his strength so he won't need the heart and hopefully come back to Tamriel and serve as a Saint in Morrowind again acting kinda as a God but not to the extent of worship.

[@Necrosman89]

If you join Dagoth Ur, in the Great House Dagoth mod , it offers an alternate view of the previous events of Red Mountain.

[@dragonflipsi]

"Garrosh did nothing wrong" - this phase originated with that. And abused ever since.

[@TheHornedKing]

Can you do a video of Mannimarco?

[@billfred9411]

Mannimarco's story is just disappointing in my opinion. He is an amazing character. He is one of the longest lived people in all of tamriel came up with necromancy and black soul gems and became the first lich ever. When the dragon break happen it's possible he even became a god in some other reality. He had a massive impact on the world and it all ended in a lame battle in oblivion that made him look like a joke. You don't even see him in lich form. It just makes me hope that that wasint really Mannimarco in oblivion because they didn't do him justice.

[@billfred9411]

​@Joseph Ellis Don't have to tell me. Iv played all the good mods relating to necromancy or mannimarco. He's one of my favorite characters along with Ysmir wulfharth, Vivec and Pelinal whitestrake. Your talking to a Elderscrolls super nerd. I could write multiple paragraphs about these characters and my thoughts about them. I didn't even mention that Mannimarco killed Vanus Galerion who was one of the most powerful mages to ever live and was the founder of the mages guild. The best characters are Wulfharth, Zurin Arctus and Hjalti early-beard/Tiber septim but the lore around them is a mess as it involves the warp in the west and a ton of conflicting reports. According to the lore of the warp in the west all possible outcomes simultaneously became reality meaning at least in some reality mannimarco became a god turning himself into a planet called the Necromancer's Moon. Which is odd cause that seems to be the same planet you see in oblivion

[@TheMrVasili]

Left out all mentions of him murdering Nerevar

[@baronofbahlingen9662]

Vasiil He said one of the possible events was the Tribunal killed Nerevar, so no he didn’t.

[@lordvivec7992]

My 36 sermons are all you need to believe about me.

[@harveh8669]

TRAITOR! LIAR! FALSE PROPHET! I THOUGHT I KILLED YOU WHEN I DID A NON CANNON PLAYTHROUGH OF MORROWIND!!!!

[@harveh8669]

p.s, your city sucks :)

[@elgatto3133]

*laughs in daedric crescent stunlock*

[@snarkmarx]

If I remember correctly, in Morrowind Vivec had a maxed out hand to hand skill.

[@mehujmehuj2229]

Always took pleasure in killing vivec and almalexia, traitors that they were. Crazy soul power for enchanting had nothing to do with it, nothing at all haha.

[@gadbenezer9329]

That quote at the end though

[@lukrin3482]

Eso vivecs dialogue is fantastic.

[@pacefactor]

The weird metaphysical stuff is what made elder scrolls so damn cool. Skyrim plays like a great game, but lacks all the depth that Morrowind had. Oblivion got it only when the Shivering Isles DLC came out, gave some great worldbuilding, and you got to know the best god in the damn game, Sheogorath.

[@stefanm.734]

Didn't the writer for the Lessons of Vivec more or less lock himself in a room for a week with a bottle of alcohol while writing them? Deadlines, man.

[@existentialmoron6334]

What a fool you are! How can you understand Vivec?! He's a god! How can you analyze a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence! Come, lay down the 36 lessons of Vivec, it is not too late to explore another character

[@quicksilvertongue3248]

So, I've seen Morrowind being played...that meteor is like TEN FEET up from the top of the big pyramid in the center of VC. How the heck did anyone have time to install a device to even *momentarily* delay its crashing after Vivec lost his power?

[@eurekaadang886]

My favorite TES character !

[@pedroxavier8508]

Vivec enters coldharbor Vivec: Hey Molag Bal, I noticed that you're giving some power for a fair price( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°). Molag Bal: Oh yeah if you're interested in blood sucking Vivec: i'm more in need of that big spear of yours Molag Bal: you just need to ask babe